He thought it'd be so easy peasy to deal with these "Indians" and their local politics that he severely handicapped himself. OOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO was that a big ass mistake!
Fun fact: Magellan was actually portuguese. His name was Fernão de Magalhães, but due to some circumstances he fled Portugal and went to Spain. There he naturalized as a Spanish and thus he had his name change to Fernando de Magallanes
@ Genoese* Italian cultural identity wasn't quite a thing back then and Genoa had a strong Ligurian presence in Genoa and the Genoese dialect of Ligurian is still spoken today in that area. So saying Columbus was Italian is inaccurate.
@@BrunoSantos-lm1pz cause he's a Portuguese traitor, I am from the Philippines and they teach us about this Voyager. It is not told epically here, he was seen as a villain cause he lead the Philippines under 333 years of slavery to Spain.
Magellan thinking he could defeat Lapu Lapu's tribe with only 49 men, and no help from his native allies, was definetly a mistake Cortéz in Mexico didn't made. Many seem to forget that the only reason those conquests were so sucessful, was because the Spanish knew how to make native allies of their own to topple the more powerful tribes and city states on the region. Except Magellan. He made the mistake of believing his own hype. But Magellan's and Elcano's circumnavigation of the world needs its own series. Specially, because in 2 years it will be 5 centuries exactly since they sucessfully returned to Spain.
0:28 As a Filipino myself I would like to correct this. It actually wasn't because Lapu-Lapu would not submit to Catholicism it's because the Rajah (chieftain) of Cebu known as Humabon was Rival to Lapu-Lapu and because Lapu-Lapu would not submit to Humabon. Here's the story: The Rajah (Chieftain) of Cebu was the most powerful and influential of all the Rajah's (Chieftains) in the Visayas (the second group of islands in The Philippines). When Magellan came to Cebu Humabon called all the Rajah's to a gathering and they decided to see what the Spanish had to offer. Humabon was amazed of the technology and armoury that Magellan had to offer and decided to ally with them but Lapu-Lapu was not impressed and refused to submit to Humabon's decision to ally Spain. (Humabon most likely saw this as a direct challenge to his authority) and so he struck a deal with Magellan. Magellan would secure the allegiance of Humabon to Spain through converting him to Catholicism while Humabon would have Magellan to go with him and conquer Lapu-Lapu to make him submit. And then Magellan told the Rajah's to sit back and watch them get killed....... That's basically it or at least that's how my history teacher and our books taught us. I'm sorry if your sick of seeing Filipinos in every Philippine relate video but i couldn't help myself 😁. Hope ya guy's learned something☺️.
Natives: **Take dangerous guns and armor.** Mendana: No problem fam we gud. Also Natives: **Cuts some bacon.** Also Mendana: *PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION.*
Fun Fact as a Native Hawaiian I learned this awhile ago a Spanish ship spotted the island of Kauai In the 1500s but the captain marked down the wrong latitude as a result we got another 200 years of isolation And thx for making this series
so that's where the U.S. got its inspiration from: wanting to turn the Pacific into an American lake. no wonder they ended up colonising the PH & other Pacific societies then huh
@Al Cubz Guam was part of the Philippines during the Spanish period. There are tons of Filipinos in Guam, and Chamorro culture is still very similar to Filipino culture. Same with Palau and Yap.
8:14 Who else wants to learn about this woman? I mean, getting from the solomon islands to manila with a malaria infested crew which almost killed itself....that's pretty amazing. And that's not even taking into account the profound dsicrimination she must have faced.
I don't think they cared about her gender. She was the only able sailor to take them somewhere safe and the crew probably didn't give a damn as long as they didn't all die
Barretto? Manila? there's a powerful dynasty of Filipino entertainment celebrities today called, that's right, the Barrettos. now the surname (and the light skin) makes me wonder if they aren't descendants …
Everybody knows that the first landing on the moon was a german feat. Herbert von Braun designed the rockets. This same stupid reasoning is done continuously for the Magellan's expedition, that was funded and designed by the Spanish crown, and the Spanish officials in the expedition.
@@victorenriquez8456 "Who cares let's cut the word in half! If that happened, we would have Torde and sillas, or Tordes and illas. I'm pretty sure spain would be happy with 6 letters, 1 more than portugal's 5.
@@theresahall1591 Well I mean as they said they were taking items from the ship and taking even food, I mean it's like some guys come to your house and you're having an ok time, and then as they leave they raid your refrigerator and start taking your TV. Your computer, etc. You can forgive some of it but there comes a point where it's too much. One thing leads to another and you end up colonizing some pacific islands.
@@Farisss92 Considering that a lot of explorers encountered this, maybe one of them wouldve realized like this mightve been a thing? Like idk, a harboring fee. Or even beginnings of trade?
"King Solomon's gold coming from Australia" . yeah, that's silly, everyone knows it's from the Philippines, that's why our old name is Ophir, like in the Bible! /S /S /S
3:02 I remember learning in history about this, the Treaty of Tordesillas. Extra props as well for showing the less spoken about affects aswell many people forget the part of the treaty where the British Isles, Madagascar and Holstein were dug up, and used to fill the Great Lakes of North America.
They sailed due west To the Philippine Islands Magellan was pleased As the natives drew near But then someone shouted "I think they're attacking!" Magellan said... "...What?" And got hit by a spear
Whoopi-ti-yi-yo, farewell, Magellan! You almost made it! It's really not fair! Whoopi-ti-yi-yo, oh, ghost of Magellan The East Indies Islands were right over there!
Whoopie-tai-yai-yoooo Farewell, Magellan You almost made it It’s really not fair. Whoopie-tai-yai-yoo O Ghost of Magellan, The East Indies Islands Where right over there...
Extra credits: *mentions Magellan* Filipinos: I see its all coming together Extra credits: *talks about the Philippine history for about 10% of the video* Filipinos: understandable have a great day
@@sonicvenom8292 bruh, Magellan's expedition to the Philippines is quite the story. But because the subject of the series is about pacific islanders I can't complain much. I just really hope that one day they'll talk about the history of the Philippines. Looking forward to it
@@redenabao2358 I think that, like someone else said, they try to fit too much in these short episodes, and just end up skimming over things, I mean I'd love to hear about the history of the Philippines, but not as much if it's just a general overview.
Yakko: They sailed due west To the Philippine Islands Magellan was pleased As the natives drew near But then someone shouted YW+D: I think they're attacking! Yakko: Magellan said... Mglln: ...What? Yakko: And got hit by a spear
Whoopie ti-yi-yo Farewell, Magellan You almost made it It's really not fair Whoopie ti-yi-yo Oh, ghost of Magellan The East Indies Islands Were right over there
Whoopie Ti-Yi-Yo, Farewell Magellan You almost made it, it's really not fair. Whoopie Ti-Yi-Yo, oh ghost of Magellan The East Indies Islands were right over there!
On March 16, 1521 When Philippines was discovered by Magellan They were sailing day and night, across the big ocean Until they saw a small Limasawa island Magellan landed in Limasawa at noon The people met him very welcome on the shore They did not understand the speaking they have done Because Kastila gid at Waray-Waray man When Magellan landed in Cebu City Rajah Humabon met him, they were very happy All people were baptized and built the church of Christ And that's the beginning of our Catholic life When Magellan visited in Mactan To Christianize them everyone But Lapu-Lapu met him on the shore And drive Magellan to go back home Then Magellan got so mad Ordered his men to camouflage "Mactan island, we could not grab 'Cause Lapu-Lapu is very hard" Then the battle began at dawn Bolos and spears versus guns and cannons When Magellan was hit on his neck He stumbled down and cried and cried
And then US occupation is another story for another reason: The Spanish has difficulty dealing with fierce resistance to the southbound invasion while Spain is overextended with American territories. That speaks volumes.
I doubt they can. Filipino historians can't even do that due to the lack of reliable and available sources. Edit: Although I disagree with his philosophy, just search the reason why historian Teodoro Agoncillo said that the history of the Filipino truly started in 1872 and that anything before that was a mere history of the Spanish in the Philippines, rather than that of the Filipino natives themselves. The reasons behind his philosophy explains why Spanish-era history is so complicated and hazy.
4:17 This part regarding your statement regarding the amalmagation of Austronesian, Spanish, and Mexican culture as attributes of the collective identity of Filipinos is unexpected. I am surprised you pointed that out because some, if not most people, including Filipinos don't know that or at least rejects certain aspects of it specially those rooted from colonial rule because they think it's "colonial mentality." They see The Philippines as purely Asian or Asian with a bit of Hispanic which I'd argue is an oversimplification. It is also interesting that the Manila-Acapulco Galleon Trade spread Filipino culture to other nations such as Guam, Mexico, and Spain. Mantón de Manila, used in Flamenco and other dances has its roots from pre-colonial Filipinas where they dress with shawls over their shoulders. Even the traje de mestiza (Filipiniana or Maria Clara dress), which reached certain parts of the Spanish East Indies. There's also a theory that the guayabera has its origin from the Filipino Baroñg Tagaló as a result of the Galleon Trade. Same goes with the Manga de Manila, the pith helmet originating from pre-colonial salakot (salacot in Spanish and French), tuba in certain parta of Mexico, language influences etc.
The concept of Terra Australius Incognita reminds me of Terry Pratchet's "Counterweight Continent", which holds a ridiculous amount of gold in order to balance out the Discworld and keep it from from tipping over. I imagine that isn't a coincidence. Always interesting to get the meaning of references I missed the first time around.
That unusually good weather Magellan had encountered when he entered the Pacific is precisely why this Ocean got named that way, meaning "peaceful". As we can see, it's a bit of a misnomer.
of course, right after columbus from a spanish ship sailed west and found america, he called the natives as indians, now when magellan with another spanish ship sailed further west and found the philippines, they also called the natives as indians
They were looking for the indies but since they were also looking for a new way there everyone they don't know must be an Indian because why not. After all it not like the world could bigger than anyone thought.
I thought they called us "Negros"?? Since (I think) they know that they've discovered a new Archipelago which is why they sailed south to the Spice islands then continued west back to Spain
Okay i have a suggestion for the Extra Credits team: I think the Extra History episodes are getting very undetailed. You only skim the topics because that you try to throw a lot of stories into one episode. Perhaps you should try to revisit one of your older series like the one on Khosrau, Suleiman or Justinian. These episodes spends a whole series to focus on one person or at least one person’s sorroundings. I, personally, learned more from each episode back then. If i were you, i would try to go back to that way of telling us history! Just a little critical feedback (:
No yeah I agree, like the Ibn Battuta, Joan of Arc, all these are great series, but ones like these try to fit too much in such a small series, I mean there's practically no continuity between the episodes. I love it but It'd be better if they went with more focused topics.
Best part is that Extra Credits doesn't even give the full picture of just how badly Magellan F-ed up. And BOY did he screw up so much, just coz he got way in over his head. When I first read Pigafetta's account for my junior year thesis, I was like "WOW that was embarrassing!"
Mendana's story was really interesting. I find it amazing that after first contact with the Marquesas islands it wasn't visited for 200 years. Amazing. That first visit must have seemed like ancient history until the next visit
@@Tom-2142 they did not get scared because the Filipinos knew what guns were, the Filipinos even occasionally had giant 20-foot cannons on their ships at that time because of the Chinese trading with them.
Hey Extra Credits I just want to say "Thankyou"ive been watching all of your videos about history cause I have a lot of questions to be ask I'm a history lover I'm been reading books at school (if have time to Read cause you know schedule when your last subjects is) .Today I've watch your new video you've been posted about Asia *History of Pacific* I didn't know that the civilization started at Taiwan *mind blown* if I haven't discovered this Channel it would be difficult for me to understand so plz keep teaching&posting about history I would love listen.❤❤😄😁
Good episode i was brought up in the Solomon’s and there were always story’s of mendala’s attempt and also the lost caravel. Lovely to see it in a small documentary.
Magellan Forces used Intimidation. Is not very effective... Edit: I have a theory of why the Mactan warriors were unafraid against the spanish muskets: My theory is that gunpowder wasn't new for them. The Phillipines served as refuge for several chinese and japanese pirates, called Wokou, and they carried cannons and primitive rockets on their ships (just for comparison, the oldest "handgun" invented in China dates from 1288). The relationship between the local kingdoms and the Wokou varied from region to region, with some of them fighting against the pirates, and others helping the bandits.
Another fun fact: John Moses Browning designed and developed the M1911 semiautomatic pistol to replace the US military standard issue Colt .38 revolvers. The revolver rounds lacked the stopping power the Americans needed against Filipino guerillas during the Filipino-American war.
Yes they traded regularly with the Chinese. They knew about gunpowder and how slow muzzleloading guns worked. They had iron weapons and some tribes even learned to make chain mail, probably from the Arabs so they knew how to defeat armor.
"Theory"? Of course gunpowder wasn't new to them. Native Southeast Asian Austronesian ships have CANNONS. The Philippines unlike the Americas or Oceania have long-standing trade relations with India, China, Japan, Srivijaya/Majapahit, Champa, and Martaban (Burma). They've seen white people before, as well as armor. And they have metallurgy.
Okay, unless I missed it, how did the spanish go that damn long in the pacific and not hit hawaii first? Is it because they had contact, but it is ignored or seen as untenable like the marquis Islands, or did they just manage to miss it, or are there just no written records of this? Cause it seems like the Spanish should have hit the islands first, not england. Also I never realized that the spanish trade was like that, I figured they went around africa and India theough the straight of Malacca like the Portugese and British, but this was interesting to learn. Great episode.
Because Hawaii sits between two major current/wind systems, one going west the other east, but neither really hits it. So if you are only following the winds... you are probably not going to hit Hawaii.
It's because of the trade winds. They didn't have the Panama Canal back then so they had to sail all the way to the tip of South America and through the Strait of Magellan (hence the name) and sail back north and ride the eastward current of the equator to the East Indies. Since Hawaii was farther north of that current, and the current flowed away from it, they totally missed it, leaving it for James Cooke to come in contact with it centuries later when navigation technology was more advanced
As for the way the Spanish traded, they had a rivalry with the Portuguese on trade routes so they contacted the Pope like any sensible Iberian would do at the time and they literally made a treaty splitting the world in two parts for them to colonize individually called the Treaty of Tordesillas. They drew a demarcation line that they believed was just off the coast of the Americas. Everything east of the line was Portuguese, everything west of the line was Spanish, so the Spanish had to sail all the way to the west to reach the far east instead of passing through the Cape of Good Hope in Africa. That line is also why most of the Americas speak Spanish. Another quirk of that line was that unbeknownst to the people who created it, it actually cut off a tiny bit of coast from South America for Portugal, which later became the Portuguese territory of Brazil
I'm really digging this series. I know it's a bit of an unusual approach compared to their more focused series, but it is nice to see the history of such a vast and important area explored, given how little known this is (at least in the English-speaking world)
Important to know the while Magellan sailed for Spain, he learned his navigation techniques in his homeland of Portugal. There’s more than one nation of voyagers
Dear Extra Credits, I love your content and your history series in particular and I believe I have noticed a little mistake, which I'd like to point out not as a negative judgement to you but for the mere sake of clarity and historical precision. At 1:38 you state that Magellan rounded Cape Horn, when he did not. He crossed through the passage that today bears his name (which, curiously enough, he himself gave the name of the "Strait of the Patagons", yet history disregarded his bautism in favor of the expeditionist's name) which is some 150 miles north of the cape. Cape Horn is named after the dutch expedition that rounded it some 100 years after Magellan's circunnavigation.
Abel Janson Tasman, hired by the Dutch east India company to find that big ass island the locals are talking about. In fulfilling his mandate he „discovered“ New Zealand and missed Australia.
It's nice seeing our Philippine History being shown to others across the world! Lapu-Lapu is seen here in the Philippines as the first hero to fight against Spanish oppression.
Talking about Austronesians and Magellan, didn't mention Enrique of Malacca/ Henry the Black, who aboard Magellan's ship. He's a native there and became the mediator/translator for Magellan's expedition in S.E. Asia.
Datu Lapu-Lapu is depicted with a sword and shield in his monument in Mactan. But some legends say that his weapon of choice was "alho" - a kind of pestle about the size of a man used by the natives to remove shells of grain. It is made of a strong wood most likely 'tugas' or 'bayong' which were common at that time. Previously, the Lapu-Lapu Monument was wielding a bow and arrow pointed directly at the City Hall's entrance, and 2 mayors at that time mysteriously died prompting the locals to tale urban legends and subsequently altered the monument altogether.
What's funny is that after Magellan died, his crew sailed on to Palawan, starving. They were saved when a native chief of Palawan welcomed them peacefully with a feast and supplies.
The Pacific is a nice setting for a tv show or a movie series like Pirates of The Caribbean. Maybe following a spanish adventurer as he voyages China,Americas, and everywhere in between. It would be fun seeing the cultures encounter.
Fun fact: (in my experience) in Brazil we only ever used maps with the American Continent on the left, so when we learned about the Tortesillas Treaty, it seemed that Portugal had been an extreme fool for agreeing with it, since we only consider the continent and forget to consider the rest of the world; so most people would think that Portugal only got that little piece of Brazil (map on 3:06) out of this deal lol
Actually, it was Magellan's Filipino slave and interpreter Enrique who first circumnavigated the world. He was acquired by Magellan in one of his forays, shipped to Spain and was with him when he started his Pacific voyage. Being knowledgeable of the terrain and fluent in native Visayan, he was the one who guided the expedition to meet and broker a deal with the local chieftains. He beats Elcano by nearly half the globe because he completed the circumnavigation upon arriving home to the Philippines.
There once was a man, his name was Magellan. A Portuguese skipper, the girls found him cute. He sailed with five ships, to find the East Indies, then come back to Spain, with a bounty of loot. Whoopie ti-yi-yo, oh happy Magellan! Staring your journey, with hardly a care! Whoopie ti-yi-oh, Strong, brave Magellan. You'll find the East Indies, you just don't know where.
1:37- Nope... Cape Horn (cabo de hornos) is south of the island of Tierra del fuego. Magallanes never saw it, que rounded the strait under the continent and nort of the Island of Tierra del Fuego.
Not sure but I think I read in a book that part of the reason for Magellan's defeat was that it was low tide so the ships couldn't support the troops. The humid climate did not help keep the powder dry for the muskets. Magellan is often portrayed as an early example of a foreign invader to Filipino s school children though it is also mentioned that it was at the behest of Lapu-Lapu's rival.
"See, he'd gotten involved in local politics."
Ah yes. Local politics is the death of many a man in history.
He thought it'd be so easy peasy to deal with these "Indians" and their local politics that he severely handicapped himself.
OOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO was that a big ass mistake!
He had it coming
Even worse, it was Philippine politics
Well, he did, by converting people, burning non-cooperative villages, threatening leaders and such.
“Local politics is the death of many a man in history” is a very accurate statement
Fun fact: Magellan was actually portuguese. His name was Fernão de Magalhães, but due to some circumstances he fled Portugal and went to Spain. There he naturalized as a Spanish and thus he had his name change to Fernando de Magallanes
@ funniest fact: i am portuguese and i never met anyone who said he was portuguese
@@BrunoSantos-lm1pz I guess they dont really give a crap about him.
@ Genoese* Italian cultural identity wasn't quite a thing back then and Genoa had a strong Ligurian presence in Genoa and the Genoese dialect of Ligurian is still spoken today in that area. So saying Columbus was Italian is inaccurate.
@@BrunoSantos-lm1pz cause he's a Portuguese traitor, I am from the Philippines and they teach us about this Voyager. It is not told epically here, he was seen as a villain cause he lead the Philippines under 333 years of slavery to Spain.
As the guy who was conquered by them i can confirm.....
Magellan thinking he could defeat Lapu Lapu's tribe with only 49 men, and no help from his native allies, was definetly a mistake Cortéz in Mexico didn't made. Many seem to forget that the only reason those conquests were so sucessful, was because the Spanish knew how to make native allies of their own to topple the more powerful tribes and city states on the region. Except Magellan. He made the mistake of believing his own hype.
But Magellan's and Elcano's circumnavigation of the world needs its own series. Specially, because in 2 years it will be 5 centuries exactly since they sucessfully returned to Spain.
He is actually first
Correct
Cortez also had European diseases spreading rapidly through the native populations
Nano LT yeah without that he wouldn’t have won
@@NanoLT that, and also seems like the Lapu Lapu weren't nearly as scared off by gunshots.
0:28 As a Filipino myself I would like to correct this. It actually wasn't because Lapu-Lapu would not submit to Catholicism it's because the Rajah (chieftain) of Cebu known as Humabon was Rival to Lapu-Lapu and because Lapu-Lapu would not submit to Humabon.
Here's the story:
The Rajah (Chieftain) of Cebu was the most powerful and influential of all the Rajah's (Chieftains) in the Visayas (the second group of islands in The Philippines). When Magellan came to Cebu Humabon called all the Rajah's to a gathering and they decided to see what the Spanish had to offer. Humabon was amazed of the technology and armoury that Magellan had to offer and decided to ally with them but Lapu-Lapu was not impressed and refused to submit to Humabon's decision to ally Spain. (Humabon most likely saw this as a direct challenge to his authority) and so he struck a deal with Magellan.
Magellan would secure the allegiance of Humabon to Spain through converting him to Catholicism while Humabon would have Magellan to go with him and conquer Lapu-Lapu to make him submit. And then Magellan told the Rajah's to sit back and watch them get killed.......
That's basically it or at least that's how my history teacher and our books taught us. I'm sorry if your sick of seeing Filipinos in every Philippine relate video but i couldn't help myself 😁.
Hope ya guy's learned something☺️.
As a Filipino born in Canada I can say that oh boy I’ve learnt something
Pre, ang haba, ok ka lang ba?
@@michaelterrencefernandezli6688 oo naman pre.
History enthusiast nga diba hahaha
@@mossyourlocalbleachbottle2098 I'm happy you did!
@@juanantoniogragasin1685 hahahaha
Natives: **Take dangerous guns and armor.**
Mendana: No problem fam we gud.
Also Natives: **Cuts some bacon.**
Also Mendana: *PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION.*
You don't mess with the bacon.
here you go, copy and paste so you are blessed with the power of the spanish letter:
ñ
I also draw the line at bacon...
@@antonxuiz Yes, let's not remove the bacon from above the ñ. We know how the Spanish (and particularly Mendaña) are about their bacon.
Ah yes, Bacon, the ultimate power. Even Jake the Magic Dog bows before the Bacon.
Fun Fact as a Native Hawaiian I learned this awhile ago a Spanish ship spotted the island of Kauai In the 1500s but the captain marked down the wrong latitude as a result we got another 200 years of isolation
And thx for making this series
I can just imagine everyone thinking he was crazy, like "It was here! The island was here before!"
Don’t drink and navigate...
What island do you come from. My family comes from Ni’ihau and Kauai.
You guys were lucky unlike us
Magellan's ghost gonna be like "I used to be an adventurer like you..."
"I got hit by curved sword.....curved....sword..."
@@Taistelukalkkuna the mix up of those two lines is perfect
@@Taistelukalkkuna We Filipinos call them Bolos and they're supposed to be curved. They're like Scimitars.
@@juanantoniogragasin1685 I always thought bolos were just machete
@@juanantoniogragasin1685 I think you mean Kampilan
It's the sword
Bolo is the machete used usually for farming/etc
“Declares the ocean and all of its land as part of the Spanish empire” Giving the British a run for their money I see
The original "empire where the sun doesn't set" is a Spanish phrase.
Erm only applied to the Catholics, as this is decreed by the pope. The Dutch and the English will colonise later
Actually, this only applied to Portugal and Spain, not even the catholics only.
China: See! They did it too! We're fully justified in being thieves.
so that's where the U.S. got its inspiration from: wanting to turn the Pacific into an American lake.
no wonder they ended up colonising the PH & other Pacific societies then huh
"descending into misunderstanding and violence" is basically the tl;dr for all of humanity
Not always. That is our saving grace, really.
"Look at this awesome new place! Now let's go kill the locals and take their stuff!"
When you touch other man's bacon there is no other way but to war.
Magellan: the risk I took was calculated, but man, I'm bad at math
Me too
Natives: take guns, armor and rope
Also natives: take a piece of bacon
Spainish: they have gone to far
NO ONE touch our IBERICO HAM!!
"They can take our lives, but they will never take our Bacon! Arriba, España!"
Everyone can use a gun, but few can apreciate a good ham
they know how to set their priorities right
MA BACON
“The oceans will be divided into Portuguese and Spanish zones!”
Every other european power: “unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way.”
Hello!
I am a Filipino on the Marianas Islands and I just wanna say thank you for sharing a small portion of the island’s history.
@Al Cubz Guam was part of the Philippines during the Spanish period. There are tons of Filipinos in Guam, and Chamorro culture is still very similar to Filipino culture. Same with Palau and Yap.
Angry Kittens
Yeah honestly talking to other Pacific Islanders feels like (and technically is) talking to a distant relative.
Al Cubz
:)
Hello, are you a modern immigrant or do you have your lineage back to Spanish colonial era? And do you happen to speak any Philippine language?
Happy you’re continuing the series looking forward to the future episodes
8:14 Who else wants to learn about this woman? I mean, getting from the solomon islands to manila with a malaria infested crew which almost killed itself....that's pretty amazing. And that's not even taking into account the profound dsicrimination she must have faced.
I vote for it
She was a pretty tough lady from a family of seafarers. She knew how to keep control. There are several biographies you can easily check 👍🏼
I don't think they cared about her gender. She was the only able sailor to take them somewhere safe and the crew probably didn't give a damn as long as they didn't all die
Pretty sure you change the "ship" for the "Atlantis" and there have to be an episode like that in Stargate some where.
Barretto? Manila?
there's a powerful dynasty of Filipino entertainment celebrities today called, that's right, the Barrettos.
now the surname (and the light skin) makes me wonder if they aren't descendants …
Glad to know that the ancient Greeks had OCD and believed in general symmetry
69, nice
Portuguese: ''only crazy person would try this again''
Sir Francis Drake: ''DID SOMBOY CALL FOR A MADLAD!?!''
Spanish*
@@JamonCocid0 Magellan worked for spain but was portuguese
*Drake* "Not only did I lead a circumnavigation from start, but I also loved to complete it. Take THAT, Magellan!"
@@joshellsworth355 Portugal and Spain were the same country during the reign of Phillip II
Everybody knows that the first landing on the moon was a german feat. Herbert von Braun designed the rockets.
This same stupid reasoning is done continuously for the Magellan's expedition, that was funded and designed by the Spanish crown, and the Spanish officials in the expedition.
Treaty of Tordesillas: “Where is East? Where is West? Where do they end?”
Who cares let's cut the word in half!
@@victorenriquez8456 "Who cares let's cut the word in half!
If that happened, we would have Torde and sillas, or Tordes and illas. I'm pretty sure spain would be happy with 6 letters, 1 more than portugal's 5.
You again
1:48 "Later expeditions will find the weather around Cape Horn so fowl..." This is one of my favourite things you've ever done.
Yes, I can't imagine why the colony failed when you attacked all the natives endlessly.
Can't imagine what the big deal in cutting food was.
@@theresahall1591 its an understandable misunderstanding Thou. Still shit move
@@theresahall1591 Well I mean as they said they were taking items from the ship and taking even food, I mean it's like some guys come to your house and you're having an ok time, and then as they leave they raid your refrigerator and start taking your TV. Your computer, etc. You can forgive some of it but there comes a point where it's too much. One thing leads to another and you end up colonizing some pacific islands.
@@thethirdsicily4802 hmmmm except they were the ones who came to your house and acted like it's their god given house...
@@Farisss92 Considering that a lot of explorers encountered this, maybe one of them wouldve realized like this mightve been a thing? Like idk, a harboring fee. Or even beginnings of trade?
"Magella-"
Filipinos: *_You called?_*
King Solomon's gold coming from Australia? That's just silly, we all know its filled with Australium.
Good point 🎯 so what do you think, Antarctica?
Good question since reaching Antarctica could be a challenge for age of the sail.
That being said, do you have Australium weapon skins tho?
and also little they did know that the norse god thor lives on that island
"King Solomon's gold coming from Australia"
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yeah, that's silly, everyone knows it's from the Philippines, that's why our old name is Ophir, like in the Bible!
/S /S /S
3:02 I remember learning in history about this, the Treaty of Tordesillas. Extra props as well for showing the less spoken about affects aswell many people forget the part of the treaty where the British Isles, Madagascar and Holstein were dug up, and used to fill the Great Lakes of North America.
They sailed due west To the Philippine Islands
Magellan was pleased As the natives drew near
But then someone shouted "I think they're attacking!"
Magellan said...
"...What?"
And got hit by a spear
you will find the East Indies you just don’t know where
Oh ghost ok Magellan, the east Indies islands were right over there!
Whoopi-ti-yi-yo, farewell, Magellan!
You almost made it! It's really not fair!
Whoopi-ti-yi-yo, oh, ghost of Magellan
The East Indies Islands were right over there!
Whoopie-tai-yai-yoooo
Farewell, Magellan
You almost made it
It’s really not fair.
Whoopie-tai-yai-yoo
O Ghost of Magellan,
The East Indies Islands
Where right over there...
The internet never disappoints.
Extra credits: *mentions Magellan*
Filipinos: I see its all coming together
Extra credits: *talks about the Philippine history for about 10% of the video*
Filipinos: understandable have a great day
Could he had at least talked about the other expeditions to the philipines?
@@sonicvenom8292 bruh, Magellan's expedition to the Philippines is quite the story. But because the subject of the series is about pacific islanders I can't complain much. I just really hope that one day they'll talk about the history of the Philippines. Looking forward to it
@@redenabao2358 I think that, like someone else said, they try to fit too much in these short episodes, and just end up skimming over things, I mean I'd love to hear about the history of the Philippines, but not as much if it's just a general overview.
@@sonicvenom8292 the video is about the pacific, not the philippines
@@kurtiskurt1 Good point. They could have elaborated more on (practically everything), but yeah I guess.
Yakko: They sailed due west
To the Philippine Islands
Magellan was pleased
As the natives drew near
But then someone shouted
YW+D: I think they're attacking!
Yakko: Magellan said...
Mglln: ...What?
Yakko: And got hit by a spear
Whoopie ti-yi-yo
Farewell, Magellan
You almost made it
It's really not fair
Whoopie ti-yi-yo
Oh, ghost of Magellan
The East Indies Islands
Were right over there
Whoopie Ti-Yi-Yo, Farewell Magellan
You almost made it, it's really not fair.
Whoopie Ti-Yi-Yo, oh ghost of Magellan
The East Indies Islands were right over there!
On March 16, 1521
When Philippines was discovered by Magellan
They were sailing day and night, across the big ocean
Until they saw a small Limasawa island
Magellan landed in Limasawa at noon
The people met him very welcome on the shore
They did not understand the speaking they have done
Because Kastila gid at Waray-Waray man
When Magellan landed in Cebu City
Rajah Humabon met him, they were very happy
All people were baptized and built the church of Christ
And that's the beginning of our Catholic life
When Magellan visited in Mactan
To Christianize them everyone
But Lapu-Lapu met him on the shore
And drive Magellan to go back home
Then Magellan got so mad
Ordered his men to camouflage
"Mactan island, we could not grab
'Cause Lapu-Lapu is very hard"
Then the battle began at dawn
Bolos and spears versus guns and cannons
When Magellan was hit on his neck
He stumbled down and cried and cried
I sure hope someday that you get to cover the entire spanish occupation of the philippines until its demise with the 1896 revolution 🙂
And then US occupation is another story for another reason: The Spanish has difficulty dealing with fierce resistance to the southbound invasion while Spain is overextended with American territories. That speaks volumes.
Those two are really interesting topics to talk about!
I doubt they can. Filipino historians can't even do that due to the lack of reliable and available sources.
Edit: Although I disagree with his philosophy, just search the reason why historian Teodoro Agoncillo said that the history of the Filipino truly started in 1872 and that anything before that was a mere history of the Spanish in the Philippines, rather than that of the Filipino natives themselves. The reasons behind his philosophy explains why Spanish-era history is so complicated and hazy.
it's more so in the 1898 Spanish-american war as that's when Spain was fighting against The US, Cuban revolutionaries and Philippine revolutionaries
And comes the thing I hated the most. The treaty of Paris.
I love this series about the exploration of the pacific. You really did a few great serieses in the last few months
Camera shy
Note: Magellan, one of the greatest adventurers was defeated by a fish.
Only Filipinos will understand this.
@janjan de vil In the Philippines, there's a fish called Lapulapu
As a filipino I was mad that you called lapu lapu a fish but I realise there's a fish called lapu lapu.....
Could you explain me?
@@alessandrogini5283 there's a fish called lapu lapu in the Philippines
4:17 This part regarding your statement regarding the amalmagation of Austronesian, Spanish, and Mexican culture as attributes of the collective identity of Filipinos is unexpected.
I am surprised you pointed that out because some, if not most people, including Filipinos don't know that or at least rejects certain aspects of it specially those rooted from colonial rule because they think it's "colonial mentality." They see The Philippines as purely Asian or Asian with a bit of Hispanic which I'd argue is an oversimplification.
It is also interesting that the Manila-Acapulco Galleon Trade spread Filipino culture to other nations such as Guam, Mexico, and Spain.
Mantón de Manila, used in Flamenco and other dances has its roots from pre-colonial Filipinas where they dress with shawls over their shoulders.
Even the traje de mestiza (Filipiniana or Maria Clara dress), which reached certain parts of the Spanish East Indies.
There's also a theory that the guayabera has its origin from the Filipino Baroñg Tagaló as a result of the Galleon Trade.
Same goes with the Manga de Manila, the pith helmet originating from pre-colonial salakot (salacot in Spanish and French), tuba in certain parta of Mexico, language influences etc.
The concept of Terra Australius Incognita reminds me of Terry Pratchet's "Counterweight Continent", which holds a ridiculous amount of gold in order to balance out the Discworld and keep it from from tipping over. I imagine that isn't a coincidence. Always interesting to get the meaning of references I missed the first time around.
Terry Pratchet and coincidence, not a chance
"Natives begins taking stuff from the ship". Mendaña instead of taking some stuff for themselves, fired at them. Missed opportunity I say.
“The Pope named half the world for the Portuguese and the Spanish”
England: Laughs in protestant
"Fowl" weather. Clever 😉
Thanks for explaining, totally missed it, just wondered what app all the chickens where doing in the air :)
That calm (pacifico) weather really does deceiving
Love the Sun becoming a Skeleton animation.
Does... Does that mean Ra's dead?
@Green Weed ~~not anymore there's a blanket~~
Why is Palawan sometimes/always missing in World maps inTH-cam videos?
Because the all died after Order 66?
shhhh, so that it wont be overcrowded like bali or phuket shhh
Maybe because it’s too long-
Be grateful, because the whole Philippines is always missing in many maps
Because its a goddamn island its hard to draw a country with small islands....
Learning about the Pacific is so cool, keep up the good work.
Magellan: No! you can't just attack us!
Lapulapu: haha sword go whoosh
Always love to see Australia on this channel, I think it’s a un-tapped goldmine of history
That unusually good weather Magellan had encountered when he entered the Pacific is precisely why this Ocean got named that way, meaning "peaceful". As we can see, it's a bit of a misnomer.
of course, right after columbus from a spanish ship sailed west and found america, he called the natives as indians, now when magellan with another spanish ship sailed further west and found the philippines, they also called the natives as indians
They were looking for the indies but since they were also looking for a new way there everyone they don't know must be an Indian because why not. After all it not like the world could bigger than anyone thought.
And made them slaves to them
European seeing someone with brown skin: That's an Indian
They'll get it right eventually. Just keep heading west, one of these land masses will be india.
I thought they called us "Negros"?? Since (I think) they know that they've discovered a new Archipelago which is why they sailed south to the Spice islands then continued west back to Spain
I just wanna say I've waited so long for an episode about the Philippines and I am happy to get it. Pleaaase make more ❤️
Okay i have a suggestion for the Extra Credits team:
I think the Extra History episodes are getting very undetailed. You only skim the topics because that you try to throw a lot of stories into one episode. Perhaps you should try to revisit one of your older series like the one on Khosrau, Suleiman or Justinian. These episodes spends a whole series to focus on one person or at least one person’s sorroundings. I, personally, learned more from each episode back then. If i were you, i would try to go back to that way of telling us history!
Just a little critical feedback (:
Yeah, this episode in particular.
No yeah I agree, like the Ibn Battuta, Joan of Arc, all these are great series, but ones like these try to fit too much in such a small series, I mean there's practically no continuity between the episodes. I love it but It'd be better if they went with more focused topics.
Before watching: was Magellan's mistake going to Taiwan and thinking he'd ended up in Japan?
Best part is that Extra Credits doesn't even give the full picture of just how badly Magellan F-ed up. And BOY did he screw up so much, just coz he got way in over his head.
When I first read Pigafetta's account for my junior year thesis, I was like "WOW that was embarrassing!"
Spoiler alert: He won't even live to know the answer.
I appreciate how you pronounce lapu-lapu more better than others.
Been waiting for this for a year!! So happy
4:37 present day Palau and Federated States of Micronesia (also once called Nuevas Filipinas or New Philippines).
Mendana's story was really interesting. I find it amazing that after first contact with the Marquesas islands it wasn't visited for 200 years. Amazing. That first visit must have seemed like ancient history until the next visit
Great video keep up the great work!
Your videos are awesome I learned alot from them
Finally something interesting that is worth watching on channel
Next episode will be amazing
5:20 ah yes, the counterweight continent
Apparently Australia is just a ballast
I came down here assuming somebody had the same thought I did!
2:55 is the absence of the UK from this map a reference to the same thing that New Zealand often experiences?
Absolutely fascinating. Great vid as always!
Imagine being so confident with a platoon of around 50... Fighting against 1.5k...
Well...
*a stupid microscopic crownvirus enters the chat...*
I guess they thought their guns would scare them all.
I mean it worked pretty well for Cortes, so the idea wasn't COMPLETELY unfounded.
@@Tom-2142 they did not get scared because the Filipinos knew what guns were, the Filipinos even occasionally had giant 20-foot cannons on their ships at that time because of the Chinese trading with them.
Leslie Tuazon I know... the Portuguese and Spanish didn’t know that though...
Hey Extra Credits I just want to say "Thankyou"ive been watching all of your videos about history cause I have a lot of questions to be ask I'm a history lover I'm been reading books at school (if have time to Read cause you know schedule when your last subjects is) .Today I've watch your new video you've been posted about Asia *History of Pacific* I didn't know that the civilization started at Taiwan *mind blown* if I haven't discovered this Channel it would be difficult for me to understand so plz keep teaching&posting about history I would love listen.❤❤😄😁
Good episode i was brought up in the Solomon’s and there were always story’s of mendala’s attempt and also the lost caravel. Lovely to see it in a small documentary.
Magellan Forces used Intimidation.
Is not very effective...
Edit: I have a theory of why the Mactan warriors were unafraid against the spanish muskets: My theory is that gunpowder wasn't new for them. The Phillipines served as refuge for several chinese and japanese pirates, called Wokou, and they carried cannons and primitive rockets on their ships (just for comparison, the oldest "handgun" invented in China dates from 1288). The relationship between the local kingdoms and the Wokou varied from region to region, with some of them fighting against the pirates, and others helping the bandits.
Another fun fact: John Moses Browning designed and developed the M1911 semiautomatic pistol to replace the US military standard issue Colt .38 revolvers. The revolver rounds lacked the stopping power the Americans needed against Filipino guerillas during the Filipino-American war.
Yes they traded regularly with the Chinese. They knew about gunpowder and how slow muzzleloading guns worked. They had iron weapons and some tribes even learned to make chain mail, probably from the Arabs so they knew how to defeat armor.
@@johnyricco1220 I agree, especially on the information given by the Arabs. It was believed that early Filipinos were Muslim.
"Theory"? Of course gunpowder wasn't new to them. Native Southeast Asian Austronesian ships have CANNONS. The Philippines unlike the Americas or Oceania have long-standing trade relations with India, China, Japan, Srivijaya/Majapahit, Champa, and Martaban (Burma). They've seen white people before, as well as armor. And they have metallurgy.
@@Master_Pogi some were also hindus.
Okay, unless I missed it, how did the spanish go that damn long in the pacific and not hit hawaii first? Is it because they had contact, but it is ignored or seen as untenable like the marquis Islands, or did they just manage to miss it, or are there just no written records of this? Cause it seems like the Spanish should have hit the islands first, not england.
Also I never realized that the spanish trade was like that, I figured they went around africa and India theough the straight of Malacca like the Portugese and British, but this was interesting to learn. Great episode.
Because Hawaii sits between two major current/wind systems, one going west the other east, but neither really hits it. So if you are only following the winds... you are probably not going to hit Hawaii.
It's because of the trade winds. They didn't have the Panama Canal back then so they had to sail all the way to the tip of South America and through the Strait of Magellan (hence the name) and sail back north and ride the eastward current of the equator to the East Indies. Since Hawaii was farther north of that current, and the current flowed away from it, they totally missed it, leaving it for James Cooke to come in contact with it centuries later when navigation technology was more advanced
2:17 see the path?
As for the way the Spanish traded, they had a rivalry with the Portuguese on trade routes so they contacted the Pope like any sensible Iberian would do at the time and they literally made a treaty splitting the world in two parts for them to colonize individually called the Treaty of Tordesillas. They drew a demarcation line that they believed was just off the coast of the Americas. Everything east of the line was Portuguese, everything west of the line was Spanish, so the Spanish had to sail all the way to the west to reach the far east instead of passing through the Cape of Good Hope in Africa. That line is also why most of the Americas speak Spanish. Another quirk of that line was that unbeknownst to the people who created it, it actually cut off a tiny bit of coast from South America for Portugal, which later became the Portuguese territory of Brazil
Hawaii IS really near to nothing....It may seem they pass nearby but those are thousands of km.
I'm really digging this series. I know it's a bit of an unusual approach compared to their more focused series, but it is nice to see the history of such a vast and important area explored, given how little known this is (at least in the English-speaking world)
Love this videos, please continue the Roman history, also love the theme music ❤️
2 phrases come to mine when learning about Spain during this time period. “Ding dong your religion is wrong” and “Spanish or vanish.”
I'm not sure why but I find the tone of the narrator very relaxing
Important to know the while Magellan sailed for Spain, he learned his navigation techniques in his homeland of Portugal. There’s more than one nation of voyagers
Dear Extra Credits, I love your content and your history series in particular and I believe I have noticed a little mistake, which I'd like to point out not as a negative judgement to you but for the mere sake of clarity and historical precision. At 1:38 you state that Magellan rounded Cape Horn, when he did not. He crossed through the passage that today bears his name (which, curiously enough, he himself gave the name of the "Strait of the Patagons", yet history disregarded his bautism in favor of the expeditionist's name) which is some 150 miles north of the cape. Cape Horn is named after the dutch expedition that rounded it some 100 years after Magellan's circunnavigation.
4:43 he's referring to Guam, tho he never did mention it...
Good entry into Philippine history, EH team. Hope you can expand on it. You won't be sorry for the depth of history the Philippines has.
Wait a minute, Tasman...
So that's how that island got it's name.
And the sea
Abel Janson Tasman, hired by the Dutch east India company to find that big ass island the locals are talking about. In fulfilling his mandate he „discovered“ New Zealand and missed Australia.
A.C. Kraus No, Tasman saw Australia, he just called it “New Holland”.
@@smartACE42 was he using Apple Maps maybe?
It's nice seeing our Philippine History being shown to others across the world! Lapu-Lapu is seen here in the Philippines as the first hero to fight against Spanish oppression.
Lima is the city, the port is Callao. Yeah, now they're connected like one big city but, in those times, they were barely connected by a few routes.
Talking about Austronesians and Magellan, didn't mention Enrique of Malacca/ Henry the Black, who aboard Magellan's ship. He's a native there and became the mediator/translator for Magellan's expedition in S.E. Asia.
Datu Lapu-Lapu is depicted with a sword and shield in his monument in Mactan. But some legends say that his weapon of choice was "alho" - a kind of pestle about the size of a man used by the natives to remove shells of grain. It is made of a strong wood most likely 'tugas' or 'bayong' which were common at that time.
Previously, the Lapu-Lapu Monument was wielding a bow and arrow pointed directly at the City Hall's entrance, and 2 mayors at that time mysteriously died prompting the locals to tale urban legends and subsequently altered the monument altogether.
Why is palawan always missing on the map?
Some People forget Palawan when they usually draw the map
What's funny is that after Magellan died, his crew sailed on to Palawan, starving. They were saved when a native chief of Palawan welcomed them peacefully with a feast and supplies.
I just love extra history they have taught me a lot. Keep it up!!👍😁😎
acully what i said i will take back right now
Worth the wait!
The Pacific is a nice setting for a tv show or a movie series like Pirates of The Caribbean. Maybe following a spanish adventurer as he voyages China,Americas, and everywhere in between. It would be fun seeing the cultures encounter.
You should perhaps do a series on the American civil war, I think that it would be very interesting and educational, and very relevant
Fun fact: (in my experience) in Brazil we only ever used maps with the American Continent on the left, so when we learned about the Tortesillas Treaty, it seemed that Portugal had been an extreme fool for agreeing with it, since we only consider the continent and forget to consider the rest of the world; so most people would think that Portugal only got that little piece of Brazil (map on 3:06) out of this deal lol
5:20 but they had a pretty good estimate of world diamiter. shouldnt they be able to see the continents hardly contribute to overall mass?
these videos make my day, well these and mythology
featuring Jose Rizal for even an episode would be hype
thanks for the video as always ^^
YESS
Eyyyy been waiting for an episode on my home country :D
I love these so much!,
Cant wait for the next one
I wonder whatever happened to that California place, ports are important and all but such a remote backwater surely fizzled out, right?
Actually, it was Magellan's Filipino slave and interpreter Enrique who first circumnavigated the world. He was acquired by Magellan in one of his forays, shipped to Spain and was with him when he started his Pacific voyage. Being knowledgeable of the terrain and fluent in native Visayan, he was the one who guided the expedition to meet and broker a deal with the local chieftains. He beats Elcano by nearly half the globe because he completed the circumnavigation upon arriving home to the Philippines.
There once was a man,
his name was Magellan.
A Portuguese skipper,
the girls found him cute.
He sailed with five ships,
to find the East Indies,
then come back to Spain,
with a bounty of loot.
Whoopie ti-yi-yo,
oh happy Magellan!
Staring your journey,
with hardly a care!
Whoopie ti-yi-oh,
Strong, brave Magellan.
You'll find the East Indies,
you just don't know where.
Great vid! I’d like to see an extra history about reconstruction :)
I hope you make more about the Philippines
1:37- Nope... Cape Horn (cabo de hornos) is south of the island of Tierra del fuego. Magallanes never saw it, que rounded the strait under the continent and nort of the Island of Tierra del Fuego.
I love this series!
Hey can you guys make a series about the Philippine revolution,I believed that it would be an awesome series that is both educational and entertaining
Lapu Lapu. Heard of your name so much, never thought I would meet you this way.
I didn't listen in Araling Panlipunan so Extra History should do!
Finally a video about my home,the Philippines
Not sure but I think I read in a book that part of the reason for Magellan's defeat was that it was low tide so the ships couldn't support the troops. The humid climate did not help keep the powder dry for the muskets.
Magellan is often portrayed as an early example of a foreign invader to Filipino s school children though it is also mentioned that it was at the behest of Lapu-Lapu's rival.
7:18 rosary toothpick this indegenous people are so cute 😂
This is perfect for my Philippine history class.
Do a video on William Adams and his adventures in Japan!