The Irony of a Protestant's Relationship with Jesus

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  • @genemyersmyers6710
    @genemyersmyers6710 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hugh your channel is a blessing in so many ways keep doing it ,thank you so much.

  • @Carmelo1861
    @Carmelo1861 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    God bless you Hugh, this is my favorite catholic apologetics channel. I was an evangelical worship pastor and I am starting RCIA next month. I have never studied theology and apologetics harder in my life then when I discovered the beautiful truths of Catholicism. It is not easy being a convert, especially when your entire family and friend group is evangelical here in the bible belt. I pray to God that he gives me the patience and courage needed to represent my Catholic faith well.

    • @andrefouche9682
      @andrefouche9682 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Also check out Joe Heshmeyer on Shameless Popery. Very good apologist.

    • @vinb2707
      @vinb2707 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Welcome home! Definitely pray for patience and always represent our Lord with Love, but stay firm in your faith. You, like Hugh, will be a great blessing to the church and a strong testimony to the truth of the Church that Christ founded.

    • @miracles_metanoia
      @miracles_metanoia หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      God bless you and your loved ones 🙏

    • @DDickinson458
      @DDickinson458 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm starting RCIA in September too and I'm so excited. I've had the same experience in terms of learning and studying and contemplating harder than I ever have in my life.

    • @peterzinya1
      @peterzinya1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DDickinson458 Better study hard in that class. Jesus wont let you into his church if you dont pass the exam. Jesus spoke of little else.

  • @atrifle8364
    @atrifle8364 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    The great freedom of being a Catholic is opening the Bible to any chapter and not being concerned about what might be on the page.

    • @ralf547
      @ralf547 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@atrifle8364 glad you feel that way. I do also.

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Friend, does Rom 8:9 not concern you?

    • @kenparks1151
      @kenparks1151 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ROM 8:9 does not concern me or any Catholic, maybe like so many times, people might misinterpret.

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kenparks1151 So every single catholic has God’s Spirit? Do you think that being water baptized is the same as having Christ Spirit? I’m asking to find out where you are coming up with this! Keep in mind, Judas was water baptized! Simon in acts 8 was water baptized.
      Do you know what happens when a person gets truly saved? Thx

    • @atrifle8364
      @atrifle8364 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@ralf547- I am not so sure of that one. The Gospels especially are dangerous places for Protestants, even for Lutherans.

  • @travisrepp1836
    @travisrepp1836 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    If you believe in the work of CHRIST on the Cross, you must accept the Eucharist as well.

  • @rappmasterdugg6825
    @rappmasterdugg6825 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    First there was a Church. Then there was a Book of the Church. But there was still a Church.

    • @ralf547
      @ralf547 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      First there was the Lord God. Then there was faith in God which saves. Then those who are saved by faith grow into a Church, a community of people who are all saved by faith in God as Savior. God used His people/Church in spreading His Word, writing down His Word, establishing the canon of His Word. He continues preserving His Word and Church through His Holy Spirit indwelling His people who are His Church.

    • @ednewcomer
      @ednewcomer หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@ralf547 The Church saves because the Church is the Body of Christ. The same body that died on the cross. The same body that rose from dead. And the same body found in the Most Blessed Sacrament of the altar. When we're joined to His His Body, we're joined to His salvation. Jesus saves us via His Body and Blood.

    • @ralf547
      @ralf547 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ednewcomer He sure does. He does that in my church as well.

    • @JC_Forum_of_Christ
      @JC_Forum_of_Christ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Word was way before the Church. Jesus Himself said so.
      “For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me.”
      ‭‭John‬ ‭17‬:‭8‬ ‭
      Plus Paul quotes all 4 Gospels in his epistles …. Which means the Gospels were written before 48 AD….

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, He est His One True Church, with a hierarchy & delegated His authority to Peter like the Prime Minister of Isa 22:22. Typical Protestants cherry pick what the like in the bible & reject what they don’t which is not a recipe for success!
      The way that Protestants obsess about the bible & reject His Church, is not only disobedient, but illogical & counterproductive. What did Christians do without bibles until they were mass printed in the 16th century & even then, most people were illiterate until recent centuries. So for most of Christian history, people didn’t have bibles, instead relying on Sunday readings by the clergy & Sacred Tradition which Protestants reject without understanding!
      Catholicism is far more balanced with an AND/BOTH view of Scripture & Tradition whereas Protestants adopt an exclusive ONLY/OR bible view resulting in heretical sola fide which is rejected by Jam 2 20-24 & sola Scriptura which 2 Peter 1:21 refutes as Rom 16 17-18 refutes Protestantism!

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Worth pointing out that in 1 Corinthians 11:27-34, Saint Paul said amongst other things:
    "For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself."
    So Saint Paul preached the real pressence.
    Also it still blows my mind that there are Protestants who believe they should ignore the 4 Gospels in favour of the Epistles of Saint Paul. (But ignore the verses that upset them).

    • @eddardgreybeard
      @eddardgreybeard หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@BensWorkshop
      Seriously, Corinthians refutes their entire understanding of Romans and Ephesians.
      There was either one gospel for all or Paul told them completely different things.

    • @BensWorkshop
      @BensWorkshop หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eddardgreybeard Reading all of just Saint Paul deals with most of their crackpot ideas however they quote scripture like Satan, in snippets.

    • @darrellperez1029
      @darrellperez1029 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      More so, in the Gospels, Jesus Himself speaks. Yet Paul though😂🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @BensWorkshop
      @BensWorkshop หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@darrellperez1029 I know. I am still shocked that there are some who think Saint Paul preached the real gospel, and they should ignore what Jesus actually said. Bonkers.

    • @darrellperez1029
      @darrellperez1029 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @BensWorkshop OH brother. I've debated a few of those. Incredible how, regardless of throwing their own scripture at them, they refuse to acknowledge that.

  • @39knights
    @39knights หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    The 'where two or three are gathered in my name' was addressed to the Apostles and their successors. It does not mean where any two or three lay christians gather that Jesus will automatically bless their practices or decisions. That is why Synods and Ecumenical Councils have such teaching authority.

    • @tabandken8562
      @tabandken8562 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      One Church Father quoted this passage in regards to heretics quoting this passage and he pointed out the part of Scripture they overlook. That the passage includes "where 2 or 3 AGREE". I forget who it was though.

    • @39knights
      @39knights หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MichaelTheophilus906 The same group who told me what was suppose to be in the bible; because it wasn't the bible either.

    • @peterzinya1
      @peterzinya1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These synods only have authority over graven image catholics. Nobody else gives a gosh darn about them.

    • @Broooooo-ww7hw
      @Broooooo-ww7hw หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unbiblical still​@@39knights

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Question: how did you decide to join the Catholic Church?

  • @jimnewl
    @jimnewl หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You never disappoint, Hugh. God Bless.

  • @flipneleanor7370
    @flipneleanor7370 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Unfortunately the protestants go on and on about accepting Jesus into their heart and that they don't need a church, just a close personal relationship with God. When they go before God for judgement, Jesus will say "You say you know me, but I don't know you. My sheep know me, and I know them."

    • @kevinkane9446
      @kevinkane9446 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Catholics have no testimony of what Jesus has done in their life they're not a new creation in Christ they think they're saved because of a confession box and a piece of bread.

  • @Kitiwake
    @Kitiwake หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Every notice.... Protestants continuously say "jezis" .. It's continuous, never ending.
    As a Catholic i was formed to refer to Him as "Our Lord" out of respect for His holy name. I certainly wouldn't splash about the Holy Name like confetti at a wedding or snuff at a wake... like evangelical protestants. What's more, they're not in the slightest bit embarrassed about it.
    One should bow ones head everytime His holy name is mentioned.
    We also don't commonly use the phase "In Jesus's name" for the same reason.
    Look at the difference in words between Catholic and protestant hymns. It's stark.

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      In the same way, they demean & disrespect Our Lady who they insist on referring to her as Mary. One of the many strengths of Catholicism is that we adopt an inclusive BOTH/AND view, but they are restricted by a ONLY/OR mindset. We believe in Jesus & Mary, His Body & Blood, Sacred Tradition & Sacred Tradition, the Cross & Body etc, but Protestants have a stubborn one-eyed view.

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Kitiwake So true. How we treat that name tells us much about what we believe about it, about Him. Thanks for the comment, God Bless .

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@geoffjs Amen, excellent points. God Bless.

  • @maryjordan4129
    @maryjordan4129 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow! That was an immense amount of truth spoken concisely and beautifully; thank you!✝️

  • @abaiok3656
    @abaiok3656 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is a peaceful sense of freedom that comes from finally being able to submit to the true authority.
    Its very ironic but very comforting.

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@abaiok3656 So very true!

  • @eddardgreybeard
    @eddardgreybeard หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Protestant: "Do you believe in Jesus?!" *starts talking about Paul*

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Protestants view Jesus as a warmup act for Paul.

    • @eddardgreybeard
      @eddardgreybeard หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@fantasia55
      They really do and they are absolutely blind to this

    • @tony1685
      @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yet i believe i can prove my points using Scripture aside from Paul.
      see John 14:15 and Exodus 20:8-11 -- neither are Paul and this proves a lot.

    • @eddardgreybeard
      @eddardgreybeard หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tony1685
      Yeah every prot has an interpretation, and what's more valid than one barely 2 centuries old?

    • @danvankouwenberg7234
      @danvankouwenberg7234 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🌶🌶🌶

  • @cynthiax56
    @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    The "man made church" is the PROTEST-ant church(es) They were started by Luther, Calvin, Knox, Wesley and others, all of whom were MEN....and protestantism does not go back tto Jesus and the apostles and protestants did not produce the bible or the gospel either. The sole reason for it's existance is to attack and oppose the catholic church.

    • @tony1685
      @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      clearly you have not studied Scripture nor history.

    • @cynthiax56
      @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tony1685 ummm...
      1. I have indeed studied scripture and I know all the vast amounts of scriptures that you protestants skip over, and I know that just about everything you attack is right there in the bible: including...honouring Mary, intercession of saints, good worls, confession, penance, the Eucharist, prayers of the rosary, even carved images in the temple of the Lord & even Marian doctrines.
      2. you think that knowing scripture is what will get you into heaven, but that is not the case. we will be judged on how we lived our lives, and whether we loved our neighbour as Jesus told us we must. we are not going to be quizzed on how many scriptures we can quote, you've got it backwards. The doctrine of "scripture alone" was made up by Martin Luther in 1517.

    • @cynthiax56
      @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Never assume that someone else knows less than you do. The proud will be humbled. and the humble will be exalted. All those who you look down on, might just go into the kingdom ahead of those who look down on them

    • @tony1685
      @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cynthiax56 start very slowly, does a Christian know God, love Christ and walk in Truth -- or do they not?

    • @cynthiax56
      @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tony1685 Catholics have been believing in Jesus and following Jesus for 2000 years now...not Martin Luther or John Calvin. You'd be a lot better off if you spent less time scrutinizing other people and more time trying to better yourself. Read Matt 7:2. The more you scrutinize others, the more you will be scrutinized yourself at your judgement

  • @glendanikolakakos7431
    @glendanikolakakos7431 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    When Protestant asked me one time do you have a personal relationship with Jesus? Are you born again? And my answer is Yes and I’m Catholic, he did not believe me that I’m saved or born again being in the Catholic faith 🤷‍♀️

    • @jamiehicks2752
      @jamiehicks2752 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Receiving Jesus in the Eucharist is the most personal relationship you can have with him. We Catholics are born again the Bible way through baptism as in John 3.

    • @glendanikolakakos7431
      @glendanikolakakos7431 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@jamiehicks2752 try to explain that to Protestants, they feel sorry for us but they do not know what they missing. Protestants are in the table gathering while they’re studying the menu we Catholics already enjoyed the fellowship and already know what’s in the menu and ate our meal 😁

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@glendanikolakakos7431 Amen!!! 🙏

    • @tony1685
      @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but one can't be catholic and have a relationship, see John 14:15
      well, not a good one anyhow.

    • @eddardgreybeard
      @eddardgreybeard หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tony1685
      Yes, the Saturday Sabbath is peak relationship.

  • @cynthiax56
    @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    It is impossible to have a "personal relationship" with INK on PAPER (solascriptura) ,,,reading about someone is not personal. For a "personal relationship" you need THE PERSON. The Living and personal Jesus is right where he has been for 2000 years now, in his church that he established, the one, holy, catholic and apostollic church, backed up by 2000 years of heavenly PERSONAL visitations and Eucharistic miracles, the bread & wine visably changing to his flesh and blood, backing up the words that he spoke at the last supper: "This is my body which will be given up for you" etc ......this ha never happened in any protestant church at any time in history.

    • @MichaelTheophilus906
      @MichaelTheophilus906 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The catholic church began in 381 A.D. The Christians all went underground for 1600 years.

    • @cynthiax56
      @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@MichaelTheophilus906 Nope. The catholic church behan when Jesus established it as described both in the bible and also by the writings of the first cedntury church Fathers. In MATTHEW it tells us that Jesus gave the "keys of the kingdom" to PETER (the first pope. Protestantism did not exist until 1517 and was started by Luther

    • @cynthiax56
      @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ✦ MATT 16:13-19: Jesus gives keys of the Kingdom to PETER and builds his church upon PETER.
      ✦ ACTS 15:7-12: "After much debate had taken place, PETER got up and said to them, “My brothers, you are well aware that from early days God made his choice among you THAT THROUGH MY MOUTH THE GENTILES WOULD HEAR THE WORD OF THE GOSPEL AND BELIEVE."
      ✦ JOHN 21:15-19: Jesus tells PETER to "Feed my sheep"
      ✦ HEBREWS 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
      ✦ JOHN 13:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
      ➨ ➨ HISTORICAL EVIDENCE:
      ➨ The body of PETER now lies under the altar of St Peter's basilica. Evidence is even shown by unbiased secular media giants National Geographic, A&E & a book: "The Bones of St Peter"
      ➨ WRITINGS FROM THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS:
      The word "Catholic" was used to describe the church in writing in the year 110 by St Ignatius of Antioch, and was used in a manner which suggests that it was already in use and understood. These writings also confirm Catholic teachings, not protestant teachings, and thgey confirm PETER as head of the church.
      Sources for the writings of the early church:
      book: The Fathers klnow best
      book: The four witnesses
      website: www.newadvent.com

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@MichaelTheophilus906 huh?

    • @cosmickitty5693
      @cosmickitty5693 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MichaelTheophilus906 The persecuted church and the martyrs were Catholic and Catholics are christian

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    @EmilyGrace200 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

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      @CalebJohnson710 หลายเดือนก่อน

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      @EmilyGrace200 หลายเดือนก่อน

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      @EmilyGrace200 หลายเดือนก่อน

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      @AriaCoxxx หลายเดือนก่อน

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      @AriaCoxxx หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @geoffjs
    @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Excellent work Hugh!
    I like your comparison of Protestants as “know it all” teenagers ignorantly protesting against their parents rejecting anything Catholic! They hypocritically reject the CC forgetting that she codified their bible in 382.
    There are many examples of Protestant irrationality, here are a few:
    - they reject that Jesus est His One True Church Mt 16 18-19
    - they reject the hierarchy & authority that He established esp the Papacy
    - many regard baptism as optional, when the bible says it is necessary for salvation
    - they reject His Real Presence in the Eucharist Jn 6 53
    - they reject His prayer for unity Jn 17 11-23 with the confusion, division & scandal of 000’s of sects
    But they then go on to heretically insist on Faith Alone & Sola Scriptura which are unbiblical & in fact refuted by Jas 2 20-24 & 2 Peter 1:21 with Protestantism rejected by Rom 16 17-18

    • @Humbleservant0707
      @Humbleservant0707 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yes! I always describe them as the spoiled little brothers. Daddy loves me even if I give Him a hard time and wait to do my chores until the last minute.
      I was Prot for 40 years. I know them all too well. My Prot brother said the other day, "I don't have to do anything but accept the free gift Jesus gave me".
      My Prot client told me in response to me desiring to pray all day and try as hard as I can to not sin, "God doesn't expect you to be perfect. If someone tells you that they are lying to you". With that I replied, Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect"
      Then another day after I told her Jesus commanded we take his body and blood, she told me in reference to the Eucharist and John 6 41-71, "yeah but He didn't say we'd go to hell if we didn't take it". She is a very nice and intelligent woman who was in charge if multiple medical clinics. Intelligence and obedient don't go hand in hand evidently.

    • @peterzinya1
      @peterzinya1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Humbleservant0707 What will happen if you get judged?

    • @patriot8554
      @patriot8554 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are spot on. But dont forget 1 Corrinthians 1:10.

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patriot8554Thanks

  • @flipneleanor7370
    @flipneleanor7370 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just as the fallen angels rebelled against God in heaven, humans (protestants) rebelled against God on earth. 😧

  • @Knight-of-the-Immaculata
    @Knight-of-the-Immaculata หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Only Christ had the authority to establish His one true church - the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic church. The chaos and disunity of tens of thousands of denominations established by men is against God’s will.

    • @electrical_cord
      @electrical_cord หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jesus actually wants us to be one to the same degree that the Trinity is one (John 17:20-23). And Paul makes it clear that there should be absolutely no divisions among Christians (1 Corinthians 1:10).

    • @ralf547
      @ralf547 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Knight-of-the-Immaculata where there is unity is among Christians. All thise the Father has given the Son. Jesus doesn't just belong to Catholics as a savior.

    • @Knight-of-the-Immaculata
      @Knight-of-the-Immaculata หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ralf547 Catholics have had this unity of faith for 2,000 years. We believe the we have the full truth because Jesus himself established our church. Some of Protestantism's 45,000 different and conflicting man made denominations have parts of the truth but not the full truth as Jesus intended. The chaos of individual interpretation has caused division and diversion from this truth (eg prosperity gospel) and will continue to divide itself until more and more false gospels are created. Even the reformers wouldn't recognise much of today's Protestantism. Jesus' church was not meant to be continually created and recreated with conflicting interpretations.

    • @JC_Forum_of_Christ
      @JC_Forum_of_Christ หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Knight-of-the-Immaculata The Word was way before the Church. Jesus Himself said so.
      “For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me.”
      ‭‭John‬ ‭17‬:‭8‬ ‭
      Plus Paul quotes all 4 Gospels in his epistles …. Which means the Gospels were written before 48 AD….

    • @Knight-of-the-Immaculata
      @Knight-of-the-Immaculata หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JC_Forum_of_Christthe church was established by Jesus when He was still on earth when he authorised Peter and the apostles to bind and loose in heaven and earth. He gave Peter special additional primary authority with a name change and keys to the kingdom and other references to His church in 33AD. Jesus himself self said it plainly and clearly but likely this video suggests, Bible only Protestants believe in Jesus and ignore what he actually said about His church.

  • @josh39684
    @josh39684 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Protestant: "Just believe and follow Jesus."
    Me: "Which one? Calvinist Jesus, Methodist Jesus, Pentecostal Jesus, or one of the 1000s of others? "
    The logical conclusion of Protestantism is each believer makes their own Jesus based on their own opinions and comfort level.
    Martin Luther actually never removed books he only relegated books to their separate sections. They were removed in 1825 by The British and Foreign Bible Society

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He removed seven books from the Old Testament.

    • @josh39684
      @josh39684 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@fantasia55 he only relegated them. Yes he declared them not as Scripture but they didn't officially get removed until the British & Foreign Bible Society removed them completely

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josh39684 Bibles contain an Old Testament and a New Testament. The books removed by Luther did not go into either section.

    • @josh39684
      @josh39684 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @fantasia55 I know that the Bible contains the Old and New Testaments. The fact that the Protestant 66 book cannon is only 199 years old is more problematic for Protestants

    • @JC_Forum_of_Christ
      @JC_Forum_of_Christ หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fantasia55you added 7…

  • @vinb2707
    @vinb2707 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    You are so correct. For how many years did I not recognize that Jesus established a church and gave that church authority?
    You clearly see that in the gospels and in the book of Acts. and you see that as well in the writings of the very early church.

    • @peterzinya1
      @peterzinya1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You cant be talking about this "church" in Rome. Jesus has 7 churches (Rev 1-3) and none of them are in Rome.

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@peterzinya1Those 7 churches are dioceses of the same Catholic Church all loyal to Rome

    • @fredricos9468
      @fredricos9468 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please show me in scripture were it says Peter started a church. I can't find it. Jesus left us the holy Spirit.
      Yet you call the Pope,"The Vicar of Christ" is blaspheme.

    • @peterzinya1
      @peterzinya1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fredricos9468 Ill go one better than that. Cathols call the man in the pope costume the Holy Father. Now theres your blaspheme.

    • @vinb2707
      @vinb2707 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fredricos9468 no where in scripture does it show that Peter started a church, but it does show us that Jesus started His Church and he gave the apostles authority. You also see In scripture that Peter is given the role of leading that Church. Those keys that Peter received came with a tremendous amount of responsibility. Do a study on the Jewish understanding of the keys and you will be amazed as I was.

  • @Gio-ce8ob
    @Gio-ce8ob หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate your videos, you explain it pretty well and not too over complicated but still using examples. Great video👍🏻

  • @abidethefire
    @abidethefire 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love this content. Love your style. Great insight. Keep up the good work. 🔥🔥🔥❤️‍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @mikekukovec4386
    @mikekukovec4386 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Protestant here:
    1:44 agree completely, we don't follow a book we follow Christ. Some Protestants unfortunately forget that
    2:34 also agree completely, what the church is built on is super duper important.
    4:30 agreed again, we follow Christ. But the book is the best way I know how to know what Christ wants. Do churches have authority and should they guide my life? Absolutely. Does my pastor speak with the same authority as God? Nope. During the apostles time, there absolutely were truths passed down orally that didn't make it into scripture, and those statements (if they were from Christ) were infallible. But now 2000 years removed, it's hard to avoid the "telephone game problem".
    5:58 man we're agreeing all over the place! KJV-only-ists thankfully do not represent most of Protestantism.
    7:35 the few fuzzy edges of the canon were ironed out when the whole church was together, guided by the Holy Spirit. There was no infallible teaching authority in the old testament, yet when Jesus comes he binds a ton of people to what it says. How did he do that if there was no Roman bishop around to tell people which books belonged? You don't need an infallible bishop to know what scripture is.
    10:05 Hugh, you guys are the ones with the "elaborate scheme" in Matthew 16. Nearly every single church father I've looked into indicates that either Peter's confession is the rock, or that it is Peter but only because of his confession, or that anyone who confesses what Peter did is a rock, or that Jesus is the rock. A few of them of course have a more Roman Catholic understanding of it, but it's all over the place. You put a LOT of meaning into the word rock. I mean, if this was the time to institute the first supreme bishop, don't you think Jesus could've been a little bit more clear? None of the apostles including Peter seem to behave in a way that would indicate Peter is superior to them after this point. Paul rebukes Peter in public, James speaks last at a council and seems to be the decider (Acts 15:19 "it is my judgement..."), we don't see claims of superiority until a few hundred years later... I'm aware you've heard all this before, just putting this here for confused Protestants.
    12:46 that is a HUGE jump from "the gates of hell won't prevail" to "Peter has to have supreme authority which has to be passed down". Do you think Christ still could've made this fairly general proclamation and not instituted a supreme bishop? Of course! Prevail doesn't mean the church won't make mistakes, it means at the END of the fight, the church will come out on top. Do you think it's illogical for a Protestant to believe the church will triumph over hell at the end?
    14:15 yes, the Septuagint had the apocrypha. AS A SEPARATE CANON. The Jews did not consider these to be bona-fide scripture, they were treated differently. That's how it was until 1546 at Trent. Luther didn't remove them, and Rome didn't add them. They were in the Bible as "secondary canon", still to be treated differently. Rome promoted them, Luther demoted them. On that note, how come Trent had to do anything with these books? I thought the whole point of an infallible teaching authority was that we could trust them to get it right in 392 and not be walking around for a thousand years with a not-quite-complete canon?
    15:49 I appreciate you comparing Protestants to rebellious teenagers who won't listen to their parents. Those teenagers probably realized that their parents weren't perfect, could make mistakes, and were pretty mean sometimes. I'm glad those teenagers decided to listen to their God instead of their parents who, at the time, were financially manipulating their friends and lighting them on fire for disagreements.
    16:30 Faith that is alone does not save. That's what the demons have, they believe God exists but they don't follow him. But I think we can agree that the works that go along with genuine faith don't MERIT eternal life, right? Because it's only grace that gives us life, and we can't MERIT grace? If you're a Roman Catholic and agree with me here, read Council of Trent, Canon 32: "If anyone says that the good works of the one justified...does not truly merit an increase of grace, eternal life... let him be anathema". I'm proud to be anathema, Hugh.
    18:44 You're right Hugh, I'll cancel my Bible study because we shouldn't bother trying to interpret scripture. After all, only the RCC can do that, which we know because... wait, we know that because the RCC interprets scripture that way. Drat, almost had me.

    • @swilliams7850
      @swilliams7850 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Excellent comments

    • @secessionblog3189
      @secessionblog3189 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let's grant one of your claims for the sake of argument. You claim Luther "demoted" the deuterocanon. Are you saying he acted with authority to identify the canon, and that authority is binding on me? If yes, justify that claim to authority. If no, then why should I care about Luther's non-authoritative opinion?

    • @mikekukovec4386
      @mikekukovec4386 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@secessionblog3189 thank you for your reply, I misspoke a little or was unclear with my language. I meant that Luther demoted the 7 apocryphal books from the status Rome was holding them at (treating them the same as the rest of scripture), not demoted them lower than they were already considered to be. When Luther translated the Bible, he DID include these books. They were just placed in their own section, the same way the Jews did. Not treated as "full-blown scripture", but still good to read. I get frustrated when I see Roman Catholics claiming he removed them, when really he included them in his translation with an attempt to REFORM their status to how the books were historically viewed. We'll probably disagree about this of course, but what Luther did with these books was in effort to conform to tradition, not oppose it. Rome was the one making the change, otherwise they wouldn't have needed the Council of Trent to formally make these 7 books part of the canon.
      On the canon subject, what do you think about my 7:35 comment that Jesus seemed comfortable binding people to scripture even though at that point there was no infallible authority telling them what scripture was? My claim is that we still do not need an infallible authority to know what scripture is.

    • @vinciblegaming6817
      @vinciblegaming6817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Concerning the telephone game, I just spent a year reading Genesis with my Protestant Bible study group and one of the m things that struck me (and deeply affected my conversion) was that we prots take for granted that events in Genesis that we take literally are a telephone game for 1500+ years until it gets to Moses who wrote it down. And we consider those early chapters of Genesis to be worthy of taking literally. But somehow we can’t trust that God preserved his church at least that long? Even though he promised to guide her into truth?
      I can’t live with that dissonance. Either both are possible or neither is. And so I went with both.

    • @mikekukovec4386
      @mikekukovec4386 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vinciblegaming6817 I firmly believe God is always preserving/guiding his church towards the truth. That doesn't mean churches won't make mistakes, and it certainly doesn't mean God can't send people like Luther to correct those mistakes. Guiding the church doesn't mean everything it's leaders proclaim is true.
      To your Genesis point, that's not a both/neither situation. Your scripture/tradition comparison has two completely different reasons for belief in them. We don't take Genesis to be true because of an authority claim Moses made, it's true because the Holy Spirit spoke through him. But when Rome makes a claim like "xyz has been the constant teaching of the church", even Roman Catholics will tell you it's not that the Holy Spirit is speaking through that bishop. That would make it scripture. It's accepted on the authority of the person making the claim. When God speaks, he's never wrong. People can be wrong even when God is guiding them (see nearly every hero of the old testament)

  • @cynthiax56
    @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ➔ The entire foundation of Protestantism is false:...
    ➔The Bible ITSELF Contradicts Luther's doctrine of "scripture alone" (solascriptura) The Bible tells us that the authority is THE CHURCH: ...
    ● 1 TIMOTHY 3:15 The pillar & foundation of TRUTH is the CHURCH.
    ● 2 THESS 2:15 We are to hold fast to the TRADITIONS we have been given, either by WORD OF MOUTH or by the letter.
    ● 2 TIMOTHY 2 Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that thou hast HEARD from me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.
    ● EPHESIANS 3:10 10 His intent was that now, THROUGH THE CHURCH, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms,
    ● JOHN 21:25 Jesus said & did Many other things that are too numerous to be recorded in writing.
    ● 1 COR 11:2 I commend you because you remember me in everything, and maintain the TRADITIONS even as I have delivered them to you.
    ● HEB 13:17 Obey the eldars in the CHURCH.
    ● COR 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
    ● HEBREWS 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
    2 COR 5:20 says that God appointed men in the Church to represent Him. And, in HEB 13:17, God appointed men in the Church to have the rule over His Flock.
    ● JOHN 13:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
    ● MATT 18:15-17
    15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
    16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
    17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto THE CHURCH: but IF HE NEGLECTS TO HEARTHE CHURCH let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
    The True Church is a TEACHING Church: (to Teach means to impart knowledge that is not presently know....not in writing)
    ● JOHN 14:26-31
    26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall TEACH you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have SAID unto you. (Spoken words...not in writing)
    (To TEACH is to impart knowledge that is not presently known....not in writing)
    ● ACTS 8:31: And he said, HOW CAN I, (understand scripture) EXCEPT SOMEONE SHOULD GUIDE ME? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
    (The scriptures are not for individual interpretation. They need the guidance of the CHURCH. It is PROTESTANTS who are following the doctrines of a man.)
    nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
    ➨GOOD WORKS IN THE BIBLE: ....
    The following scriptures all demand good works from us in order to emnter the kingdom of God and all of them were copied directly from the protestant version of the bible by Cynthia x:...
    👉👉 Jesus himself contradicts the protestant doctrine of "faith alone" He tells us in Matt 25 that we must feed the hungry and clothe the naked if we expect to enter the kingdom of God, and he warns us that if we do not do these GOOD WORKS that we will be sent away into the eternal fire.
    Here's a few more scriptures that protestants skip over: ...
    👉👉 EPHESIANS 2:10 (KJV)
    Protestants "prove" their false doctrine of "faith alone" By quoting EPH 2:8-9

    👉👉 and they STOP before they get to number 10:
    8 For by GRACE are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (most protestants stop here instead of continuing on to 10):

    👉👉 10 FOR WE ARE GOD'S WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS UNTO GOOD WORKS, WHICH GOD HAS BEFORE ORDAINED, THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM.
    MORE scriptures that demand good works from us:
    ● REV 20:12...The dead are judged BY THEIR WORKS.
    ● REV 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man ACCORDING TO HIS WORK shall be.
    ● REV 19:8
    And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.
    ● JAMES 2:18 Faith without works is dead
    ● MATTEW 19:17 Jesus tells us if we want to enter into Life, we must keep the commandments.
    ● MATTHEW 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your GOOD DEEDSand glorify your Father in heaven.
    ● JAMES 2:24 A man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
    ● ROMANS 2:6 He will judge everyone ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
    ● ROMANS 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
    ● MATTHEW 7:21 Not everyone who says to me: "Lord Lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven but only those WHO DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER.
    ● PHILIPPIANS 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.
    ● MATT 25:35-40 JESUS tells us to feed the hungry & clothe the naked (good works). He further warns us that those who do NOT will be sent away into the eternal fire., but those who do these WORKS will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
    ● LUKE 16:19-30 The story of Lazarus and the rich man shows us that the rich man went to hell for refusing to help Lazarus who was poor and hungry. (He refused to do good works)
    ● TITUS 3:14 KJV And let our's also learn to maintain good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful.
    ● EPHESIANS 2:8-11 (KJV)
    Protestants "prove" their false doctrine of "faith alone" By quoting EPH 2:8-9
    and they STOP before they get to number 10:
    8 For by GRACE are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (most protestants stop here instead of continuing on to 10):
    ➨ 10 FOR WE ARE GOD'S WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS UNTO GOOD WORKS, WHICH GOD HAS BEFORE ORDAINED, THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM.
    ● 1 COR 9:27 (KJV) (Paul speaking) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a cast away.
    ● MATT 12:36-37
    36 But I say unto you, That every idle WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
    37 For BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE JUSTIFIED, and BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE CONDEMNED.
    (not by yout faith alone)
    ● JAMES 2:16-18
    16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace [with my blessing], keep warm and feed yourselves,” but he does not give them the necessities for the body, what good does that do? 17 So too, faith, if it does not have works [to back it up], is by itself dead [inoperative and ineffective].
    18 But someone may say, “You [claim to] have faith and I have [good] works; show me your [alleged] faith without the works [if you can], and I will show you my faith by my works [that is, by what I do].”
    ● JAMES 2:21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar?

    • @eddyrobichaud5832
      @eddyrobichaud5832 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ephesians 2:10 proves that it's faith alone. It proves that we have no merit in any work we do because God put the works in front of us, so we should do them in Christ, by Christ through Christ.

    • @cynthiax56
      @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eddyrobichaud5832 only when you skip over number 10 🤩...when you accept ALL scriptures, instead of just the onbes that suit your agendam then faith and works go TOGETHER.

    • @eddyrobichaud5832
      @eddyrobichaud5832 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @cynthiax56 it's impossible to follow the 10 commandments perfectly, so for those who believe, works and faith, there is no hope.

    • @cynthiax56
      @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eddyrobichaud5832 The words of Jesus himself, as recorded in Matt 25 tells us that we must feed the hungry and clothew the naked if we expect to enter the kingdom of God. Protestants tell us all the time that they believe the bible and follow Jesus, yet the omit vast amounts of scriptures and cling to Luther's doctrines of "scripture alone" and "faith alone" Jesus tells us that a man cannot have 2 masters, for he will love one and hate the other. We are not expected to do everything perfectly....only to the best of our ability and he knows the difference

    • @eddyrobichaud5832
      @eddyrobichaud5832 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @cynthiax56 then why did Jesus die on the cross for ?

  • @philfrank5601
    @philfrank5601 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic video as usual, Hugh. God bless you, your work, and those Christians who are drawn back to the Catholic Church through these videos.

    • @peterzinya1
      @peterzinya1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Christians arent drawn to the CC. papists are drawn to the CC. Christians dont bow befor wood and stone, the works of their hands. Its just that simple.

    • @essafats5728
      @essafats5728 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@peterzinya1 Prottys dont even bow to anyone but themselves. Ur a tired old schtik.

  • @fantasia55
    @fantasia55 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tony, if unblocked, turns every comment section into JW gibberish.

  • @MrGogeta3407
    @MrGogeta3407 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Christ never said to follow a book.. Christ said to follow His words. His words are in that Book.

    • @veredictum4503
      @veredictum4503 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But the New Testament teachings were NOT in that book yet, because they were loose letters floating around, attributed to the apostles. It took the Church - all the bishops - gathered together to decide what was in, what was out, by examining consistency and authorship. So it was the Church that 'canonized' the NT definitively. Even then it cannot be sola scriptura because illiteracy was the norm for 95% of the people. Plus bibles were hand written with quill feathers, on lambskin. Even after the Gutenberg printing press, illiteracy was a problem.
      So the "sola scriptura" / my personal interpretation ideas only came after the printing press plus widespread literacy - a modern idea that has no history. It may sound good, except that the more bible translation versions, the more "personal interpretations", and now we have 40,000 denominations all disagreeing.

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His words were also in the oral teaching imparted to the Apostles.

    • @MrGogeta3407
      @MrGogeta3407 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @veredictum4503 Again, Jesus did not say to follow a book. Christ said to follow His words.
      His words are in our current book. And before that, they were in the teachings and letters of the apostles.
      His words are the authority over all else. Jesus Christ is the head and chief cornerstone of both the Church and our faith.
      The need to rule and Romanize things is understandable given the habits and traditions of the empire...

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrGogeta3407 Jesus created the Church in AD 33, and the Church created the Bible in AD 382.

    • @MrGogeta3407
      @MrGogeta3407 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @fantasia55 And Christ's Disciples lived and taught and wrote in the first century... doesn't change the fact that it's the words of God that we live by. Contradict it and you are wrong.. no matter who you are.. even if you were one of the apostles.

  • @cynthiax56
    @cynthiax56 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Protestants pride themselves on knowing the bible and think that is what will get them into heaven, while they tend to look down on others who don't know it as well as they do, but there are 2 problems with this:....
    1. They actually do not know it that well, & the things they artrtack are right there in the bible:...honouring Mary, intercession of the saints, good works, penance, confession, the Eucharist, prayers of the rosary, even carved images in the Lord's temple and Marian doctrines.
    2. Knowing the bible is NOT what gets a person into heaven, it is whether a person has loved their neighbour as Jesus told us to, and how we have lived our lives and obey his mandates as best we could. Knowing the bible meansd nothing if you look down on othrs and slander them.

  • @georgegarcia4414
    @georgegarcia4414 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You said Jesus didn’t say anything about fallowing a book, but Jesus did mention several times in different ways “have you not read?’ Or “Have you never read?” He said it to the Pharisees in Mathew 12 where the Pharisees were concerned about doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath. Jesus used scripture that is in the Book that you reference when he was tempted by the devil, his reply to the devil was met with “it is written,…” the Devil quoted scripture as well. “If you are the son of God”, he said “throw yourself down. For it is written: He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone” Jesus answered him, “it is also written :’do not put the Lord your God to the test. We need this book you are referring to The Bible, to learn and closer to God. How are we going to know the truth with out it? It’s the Holy Spirit that will guide us in to learning and studying his words. The Bible helps us to seek God, Jesus is the way the Truth and the life, seek him. Read the Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you. The truth will set you free.

  • @JC_Forum_of_Christ
    @JC_Forum_of_Christ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Word was way before the Church. Jesus Himself said so.
    “For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭17‬:‭8‬ ‭
    Plus Paul quotes all 4 Gospels in his epistles …. Which means the Gospels were written before 48 AD….

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The"Word" and "words" are different things.
      Just read the Bible. Stop interpreting. You're confused.

    • @JC_Forum_of_Christ
      @JC_Forum_of_Christ หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kitiwake so are you saying that Jesus God on earth didn’t give the disciples the New Testament? He told Moses what to write. David, Joshua, Jeremiah Ezekiel etc….
      Even though Jesus said it, it was 4 century Italians gave us the Bible?

  • @silveriorebelo2920
    @silveriorebelo2920 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Scripture has been given to a people of believers in Christ, formed by the Apostles and their successors, not to render men believers

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Friends, at 4:30, Hugh questioned where did Jesus say follow a book. Jesus is God and He is the word.
      Therefore, I am willing to accept and pose a challenge in return.
      Let's look at the example of Moses and Israel. God provided them with a book to follow, known as the "BOOK OF THE LAW", and held them accountable to obey its teachings.
      Deuteronomy 28:58 (KJV) If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD. Next verse declares judgment on those who don’t follow the written BOOK!
      Hugh not God suggests that we should trust a specific group of individuals because they claim to possess the truth. However, the true measure of truth is based on God's written word found in a book. This book contains God's words by which we will all be judged.
      Time constraints may limit reading, so I will leave it here for you to contemplate further.
      I challenge Hugh or any Catholic friends to explain their interpretation of Romans 3:4 (KJV): "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is WRITTEN, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged."

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Friend, what are your thoughts on what determines a believer? Here’s why I ask: In some sense Judas was a believer. In some sense the people in Matt 7:21-23 who proclaimed Jesus as Lord and did many wonderful works were indeed believers! They called Him Lord! They did many wonderful works in His name!
      Question: how do we determine who real believer are?

    • @TryingToFollowChrist37
      @TryingToFollowChrist37 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Harbinger290by their fruits you shall know them. And the fruits of the reformation is self evidence lots of division.

    • @TryingToFollowChrist37
      @TryingToFollowChrist37 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Harbinger290 lots of division which goes against Christ commandment that we should be one.

    • @TryingToFollowChrist37
      @TryingToFollowChrist37 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Harbinger290 that’s all the evidence I need to know that protestants are wrong.

  • @QuixEnd
    @QuixEnd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every pastor/teacher I've spoken with has zero interest in questioning or learning.
    I tell them I've spent 10 years just trying to understand the truth and live it, they've always told me to stop wasting my time.. its actually nuts.

    • @tony1685
      @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน

      'Truth' -- if you're trying to understand and follow God's Truth, you won't be catholic long.

    • @QuixEnd
      @QuixEnd หลายเดือนก่อน

      @tony1685 maybe not forever, but not everyone can spend the amount of time and effort required. Although most people are just completely disinterested

    • @tony1685
      @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@QuixEnd oh i agree. i too spent many years studying Scripture day and night. again, i base it on God's Truth.
      this rescued me from 35 yrs of being catholic. now i follow God's Word, which is Truth -- John 17:17

    • @eddardgreybeard
      @eddardgreybeard หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tony1685
      Yes, you observe a Saturday Sabbath.
      Congrats.

    • @tony1685
      @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eddardgreybeard i do. it's the very least any Christian could do.

  • @pamelazahn4816
    @pamelazahn4816 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing insight! Thank you. Something I can share with my protestant family

  • @TimSpangler-rd6vs
    @TimSpangler-rd6vs หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Rock is Jesus. You are free to choose yours

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TimSpangler-rd6vs I choose to believe what Jesus said! Matthew 16:13-19.

    • @TimSpangler-rd6vs
      @TimSpangler-rd6vs หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catholicskeptic Me too

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jesus is the head of the Catholic Church which He built upon the rock of Peter.

    • @TimSpangler-rd6vs
      @TimSpangler-rd6vs หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@geoffjs No

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TimSpangler-rd6vsYour right to be wrong!

  • @chadmeidl1140
    @chadmeidl1140 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @1:45 [Jesus did not say anything about following a book.]
    He blasted the Pharisees for their "tradition."
    He told many that they were IGNORANT of the Scriptures.
    I'll go with the Book myself as that is what the Lord did.
    He referred to the Book many times:
    MATTHEW 4:3-4
    And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. 4But he answered and said, *It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.*
    MATTHEW 4:6-7
    And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. 7Jesus said unto him, *It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.*
    MATTHEW 4:9-10
    And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: *for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.*
    Satan tempts Jesus THREE TIMES, and THREE TIMES the Lord refers to Scripture. What was Jesus following?
    LUKE 24:44-46
    And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which *were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.* 45Then opened he their understanding, *that they might understand the scriptures,* 46And said unto them, *Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:*
    The Old Testament Mazoretic Text was divided into these three divisions:
    The Law of Moses- Torah or Pentateuch
    The Prophets- Nebhim
    The Psalms- Ketuvim
    2 TIMOTHY 3:13-17
    *But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.* 14But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
    *15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.*
    *16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:*
    17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
    A man can be perfect (complete) by knowing the SCRIPTURES.
    2 TIMOTHY 2:15-16
    *Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.*
    *16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.*
    Paul commanded Timothy to STUDY. Study what, traditions?
    THE WORD OF TRUTH.
    Then he told Timothy to avoid profane and vain babblings. These things are the church "fathers," philosophy (Colossians 2:8) and pseudo-science:
    1 TIMOTHY 6:20-21
    O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, *avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:* *21Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.*
    Jesus followed the Book. Paul followed Jesus and he followed the Book. Paul instructed Timothy to follow the Book.
    The Word of God (John 1:1) is Jesus Christ.
    The word of God is scripture.
    Odd that they share the same title.

  • @gerardogilsanz1171
    @gerardogilsanz1171 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very insightful

  • @MilesDei95
    @MilesDei95 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gender issues in Spanish are the best. It is NonBinaro and nonBinara, perfection if you ask me

  • @richardsprague7800
    @richardsprague7800 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video, but I’m not sure what the “ironic” part of the Protestant relationship with Jesus is.

  • @MichaelTheophilus906
    @MichaelTheophilus906 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deut 6.4-6, Mark 12.28-32, John 17.3, John 20.17, Rom 15.6, Rom 16.27, I Cor 8.6, II Cor 11.31, I Tim 2.5, Rev 1.5-6, Rev 3.12.

  • @panes840
    @panes840 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, Hugh

  • @tinag7506
    @tinag7506 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for talking about this

  • @geoffjs
    @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Beware @tony1685, the troll!

  • @chadmeidl1140
    @chadmeidl1140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @18:05 [Prior to the 380's people were 90% illiterate?]
    What sayeth the scriptures?
    LUKE 4:14-20
    And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
    15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
    16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, *as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.*
    17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
    18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
    19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
    *20And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister,* and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
    (v. 21-22)
    And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
    22And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. *And they said, Is not this Joseph's son?*
    The minister DID NOT READ, Jesus did. He was a Jew among many whose custom was to get up and READ the scriptures. Notice the congregation considered Jesus a nobody from Nazareth.
    A "commoner" (the carpenter's son) READ the scriptures and gave them back to the MINISTER of the SYNAGOGUE.
    The custom was for people OTHER THAN THE MINISTER to get up and read.
    IF men were as illiterate as you claim explain these passages:
    ACTS 8:27-31 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, 28Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. 29Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. 30And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? 31And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?
    An Ethiopian Eunuch could read.
    2 Timothy 3:14-15
    But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
    No indication that Timothy could not read as a child, for Paul sent him letters to read latter. You ASSUME that people were stupid and could not read.
    1 John 2:12-13
    I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake. 13I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
    This passage covers children, young men, and fathers, NOT scribes and Pharisees, nor the spiritually learned "intellectuals".

  • @soteriology400
    @soteriology400 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesus and the Jews (apostles, disciples etc), gave example after example referencing the scriptures. It is riddled with this. Wow.

  • @chadmeidl1140
    @chadmeidl1140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @16:30 "Faith alone" is not found in the Bible, but the idea IS:
    ROMANS 4:4-5
    Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
    *5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.*
    The same goes for "saving faith" used by Calvinists.
    Using James 2:24 for a Christians Justification CONTRADICTS what Paul writes in Romans Chapter 4!
    James is written to the twelve tribes. (1:1)
    James states that Abraham was Justified by faith and works. (2:24)
    Paul says Abraham was Justified by faith without the works of the Law. (Romans 4:3-4)
    James states that Abraham was Justified by offering Isaac. (James 2:21)
    Paul states that Abraham was Justified in UNCIRCUMCISION. (Romans 4:10)
    Abraham offered Isaac in Genesis Ch. 22.
    Abraham was CIRCUMCISED in Genesis Ch. 17.
    According to Paul Abraham was Justified in GENESIS 15:1-6.
    He cites this in Romans 4:16-25.
    The promise of the stars in Genesis 15:5-6 is EXPANDED to include the sand of the sea in Genesis 22:16-17.
    The sand of the sea is given a territorial possession (and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies).
    The Jew BEFORE the cross was Justified by a Faith perfected by works. (James 2:22)
    Paul states a Christian's Faith AFTER the cross is not perfected by works. (Galatians 3:1-4)
    The Jew was given the Old Covenant and his conscience cleared of sin by the Old Covenant. (Hebrews 10:1-4)
    As the blood of bulls and goats can NEVER take away sins, the righteous Jew AND gentile (Rehab- James 2:25) were taken out of Abraham's Bosom by the blood of the NEW TESTAMENT after the cross.
    The Christian (never given the Old Covenant) is not saved by the Old Testament, as the Old Testament covered the Jew when they could not keep the Law, because the gentile was NEVER given the Law.
    The Jew who rejects the gospel (1 Cor. 15:1-4, Rom. 3:20-28, Heb 4:1-11) will be saved by the NEW COVENANT.
    The NEW COVENANT requires WORKS and the blood of Jesus Christ (New Testament). There are works required in the Tribulation week.
    The books of the New Testament are laid out in a Pre-Millennial order.
    As Paul's epistles mainly contain doctrine for the Church, the following books of James and Hebrews main doctrine is for the 12 tribes (JAMES 1:1), and the HEBREWS (The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the HEBREWS [the book TITLE]) in Daniels Seventieth Week, or the Time of JACOB'S TROUBLE.

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too long!,
      Faith alone will not save you but needs to be combined with grace received via His sacraments esp Baptism & Eucharist together with good works Jas 2 20-24 & Mt 25 31-45

  • @chadmeidl1140
    @chadmeidl1140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @14:16 The Apostles and Jesus used the Septuagint?
    How was the Septuagint organized?
    The Septuagint has four:
    law, history, poetry, and prophets.
    The books of the Apocrypha were inserted at appropriate locations.
    The Hebrew Bible, also called the Tanakh, has three parts:
    the Torah ("Law"), the Nevi'im ("Prophets"), and the Ketuvim ("Writings").
    What does Jesus say?
    LUKE 24:44
    And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written *in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms,* concerning me. 45Then opened he their understanding, that they might *understand the scriptures*
    The Apostles and Jesus used the MAZORETIC. Jesus did not quote the Apocrypha ONCE.

  • @robertmcvicar5824
    @robertmcvicar5824 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ye must be born again. These are the words of Jesus because ye must be born again. As for following a book Jesus said that man cannot live by bread alone. By the way I don't believe that alter calls and easy believism saves in most cases. The Protestant church today is full of false proffesion. Romans 10v10 this is the reason for this mans apostacy to Rome.

  • @TimSpangler-rd6vs
    @TimSpangler-rd6vs หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Bible is NOT just "a book". It is the sword of the SPIRIT.....GOD BREATHED

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TimSpangler-rd6vs Of course, I never said otherwise, I just choose to believe all of it, rather than explain away parts like: Matthew 16:13-19, John 20:21-23, John 6:48-58.

    • @TimSpangler-rd6vs
      @TimSpangler-rd6vs หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catholicskeptic I never "explain away" scripture

    • @vinciblegaming6817
      @vinciblegaming6817 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mark 16:16, 1 Peter 3:21, John 15:1-6, 2 Peter 2:20-22.

    • @TimSpangler-rd6vs
      @TimSpangler-rd6vs หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vinciblegaming6817 Amen!!!

    • @vinciblegaming6817
      @vinciblegaming6817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TimSpangler-rd6vs if you have no issues with those verses, what denomination are you?

  • @ToeTag1968
    @ToeTag1968 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello sir. It's hard to address everything because, respectfully, you were all over the map topically. Let's start at the beginning.
    "Jesus didn't say anything about following a book"
    "Show me one verse in the bible where Jesus says "go buy a book, we're going to follow a book.""
    Jesus regularly quoted scriptures to teach his disciples and the multitudes. It is also important to realize that, upon Jesus' resurrection, he instructed the disciples where to find the prophecies and psalms that related to himself. This was a big part of the gospel message they would share. Please review: Luke 24:44-47. Also Acts 17:1-3 (And, according to Paul's custom, he went to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and setting before them that the Christ had to suffer and ruse again from the dead...). In Acts 8:35, Philip opens his mouth and, using scripture, proclaimed the gospel to the eunuch.
    As you can see, scripture plays a vital role in establishing Jesus as the messiah and showing prophecies fulfilled, as well as in the presentation of the gospel. Tell us again that scriptures were not important to Christ and his message.
    You mention it later, but I'll add comments here because it seems to fit better. Jesus and the disciples would have been aware of the septuagint, but Jesus, as rabbi, would have used the Hebrew Tanakh/Torah. No where does Jesus say, "It is written" and quote a deuterocanonical book. He gave them no authority. Any brief allusion to a sentence or to a story in no way would legitimize the entire collection. I'd encourage you to read up on the origin of the septuagint translations. They were commissioned by Ptolemy II. Extra books that are not in the Jewish Tanakh were added (a big no-no) as scripture. Early church fathers had a problem with this. For instance, Jerome was translating. He was ordered to include them. He put them in their own section - separate from the Tanakh (what we would call the Old Testament) with a note saying those writings should not be used to create doctrine. If only the Catholic Church would have listened.
    "On this rock..." Sir, you talked about people taking the bible out of context. This is one of the most egregious examples. This one, single verse, Matthew 16:18, is the justification for an entire papal hierarchy that is not described anywhere in the bible! That's insanity! Any neutral reading indicates that the "rock" was the profession of faith. There are references throughout the bible of living stones that make up the church. Let me ask you this: what makes someone a Christian? The hint is in Romans 10 (which I highly encourage people to read). Belief! Belief in Jesus' divinity, his crucifixion as propitiation for our sins, his burial and resurrection. This is the gospel. Do you see?
    The Papal office is not biblical. Scriptures are clear on church hierarchy with regional bishops and elders. St. Clement, who purportedly hung out with Paul, states in his writings that bishops were voted into office by their congregation. That hardly sounds like apostolic succession. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Nor is a council of fallible men, centuries after the resurrection, voting their decisions to be binding and infallible, a basis for a 2nd but equal authority beyond the infallible Word of God. I think the apostles would have had some words for those men. They would have referred back to Acts 17:11 where Paul is pleased that the Bereans were more receptive of the gospel, but still took the time daily to read through the scriptures for themselves to see if what Paul was saying rang true.
    Let us end on faith alone. In Ephesians 2:8-9. We are told that it by grace we have been saved through faith, and this not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not of works, so that no one may boast. So, let me ask you: if salvation is not of works, what does that leave us? Faith. Just faith. Even though the words "faith alone" are not used, the concept is right there. It's a math equation. Works is a zero. You use it in addition or multiply by it, it adds nothing to your total.
    God bless you, keep you, and grant you and your listeners peace.

    • @atrifle8364
      @atrifle8364 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Why is Peter always listed first in the New Testament? Why is Peter's name only second in frequency to Jesus' in the New Testament? What can Matthew 16 possibly mean if there is no authority invested into anyone in particular? Why are other people not given a blessing and renamed an analogy for God upon their profession of faith?
      Where is Peter now, if he was given the keys to the Kingdom? Have those keys disappeared?

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You’ll never under Catholicism with a Protestant mindset, both very different, the former enlightening & inspiring, the latter, superficial, confusing & inconsistent.

    • @ToeTag1968
      @ToeTag1968 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@atrifle8364 "Why is Peter always listed first in the New Testament?" Because he was the first disciple called. You know who is referenced much more than the name of Peter? The disciples. Check it out. Jesus taught them all equally, bestowed power, authority, and Holy Spirit among them equally. Jesus said they would all sit on thrones and judge the 12 tribes (Matthew 19). In Revelation 21:14, it is mentioned they each have a representative wall foundation stone in new Jerusalem. There is no description in either verse of Peter's throne or foundation stone being any different. That's because the disciples were all equal. In Matthew 16, Jesus says he will give the keys, not that he did at that moment. Upon Christ's resurrection, in John 20:22, he gathers most of the disciples and breathes the Holy Spirit onto them. This is when they all gained the authority to bind and loose. "Keys" is a symbol of authority and they all had it.
      Where are the keys now? We all have authority who walk with Holy Spirit. We are all saints and part of His holy priesthood. But Jesus really always has them (Revelation 3:7 which is an echo of Isaiah 22:22).

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ToeTag1968 Fascinating response. First of all, I was quite orderly in the video, that's just a foolish insult. St Clement clearly exercised full authority over the entire Church. It is amazing how one justifies dismissing tritely scripture, because it does not line up with a belief system.
      I referenced many more verses, but Matthew 16:13-19 is very clear. Ephesians 1:22-23, 1 Corinthians 12, Ephesians 4: 1-4, Hebrews 12:18-29. Just a few verses off the top of my head, that all refer to "Church", that a few rebels decided centuries later, to reduce to simply a gathering. Of course Christ refers to scripture and it's importance, but the Church gave you the complete Bible. You have no argument here, just a nice, though false, Protestant sermon. But thanks for the comment. God bless you and your family, and lead you to the Truth of His Holy Church.

    • @ToeTag1968
      @ToeTag1968 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catholicskeptic I apologize for insulting you. I thought the topic of the video was the irony of a Protestant's relationship with Jesus. You got into much more than that and I kept waiting to know what I get wrong about Jesus. Turns out, I got nothing wrong. I am 100% assured of my salvation still.
      The thing that I find with Catholics, especially enthusiastic converts, is the need to talk down the Protestant side of their journey. In reading your response, it seems to be the case that you now believe that The Church means only the big C Catholic Church and not the invisible body of Christ which is inclusive of all believers.
      The early church fathers recognized the authority in scripture, but they did not compile the books by their own flesh. The words are the inspired words of God. The Old Testament was already there (Romans 3:2) and we agree on the 27 books of the New Testament. The authors refer to other NT books as scripture and Peter refers people to the writings of Paul. The authority is there. There is no appropriation happening here. God bless.

  • @chadmeidl1140
    @chadmeidl1140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @12:00 Does church "discipline" include Inquisitions, persecutions, burning "heretics," burning writings, Papal bulls of excommunication and Anathemas?

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course not!

  • @Amilton5Solas
    @Amilton5Solas 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Bible instructs us about the church.

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Amilton5Solas Which came first, the Complete Bible, or the Church?

    • @Amilton5Solas
      @Amilton5Solas 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@catholicskeptic the church through the oral instruction that was latter written. There would be no church without the right instructions like the Gospel.

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Typical Protestant logic!

    • @Amilton5Solas
      @Amilton5Solas 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@geoffjs can you please help me understand where I went wrong?

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Amilton5Solas Jesus gave us His Church which codified your Bible in 382

  • @joselitonaranjo3234
    @joselitonaranjo3234 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amen

  • @Harbinger290
    @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Friends, at 4:30, Hugh questioned where did Jesus say follow a book. Jesus is God and He is the word.
    Therefore, I am willing to accept and pose a challenge in return.
    Let's look at the example of Moses and Israel. God provided them with a book to follow, known as the "BOOK OF THE LAW", and held them accountable to obey its teachings.
    Deuteronomy 28:58 (KJV) If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD. Next verse declares judgment on those who don’t follow the written BOOK!
    Hugh not God suggests that we should trust a specific group of individuals because they claim to possess the truth. However, the true measure of truth is based on God's written word found in a book. This book contains God's words by which we will all be judged.
    Time constraints may limit reading, so I will leave it here for you to contemplate further.
    I challenge Hugh or any Catholic friends to explain their interpretation of Romans 3:4 (KJV): "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is WRITTEN, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged."

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Harbinger290 Yeah. Old Testament writings exist but the existence of the levitical priesthood is still followed. It was not abolished. Their authority were recognized by every Jew. So Catholics believe in the Scriptures, oral tradition, and living Magisterium. Catholics are not Scripture alone and go on each one's interpretation

    • @atrifle8364
      @atrifle8364 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It gets old, friend. Protestants have tiny little tracks of Scripture that they talk about. Romans is not a complete epistle, but a few sentences. James 2 doesn't exist. John 6 is just discarded. Peter's open warnings about the possibility of backsliding and misinterpreting Paul go ignored. My challenge to you would be to explain the vast majority of Scripture that's being ignored.

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@atrifle8364 Friend, why don’t you respond to my question above. I never said Jam 2 doesn’t exist or John 6. Do we ignore Eph 2:8-10 to make James and John fit our church doctrine or do we understand all in context? Please respond to my question?

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@atrifle8364 Hugh replied to one of his comments and he's right. This Prot just pushes his own narrative and refuses to answer counterarguments. Perfect example of using Scripture for his own ends

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Harbinger290 what happened? You didn't read my response?

  • @chadmeidl1140
    @chadmeidl1140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @9:55
    MATTHEW 16:18
    And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
    The "rock" is Jesus Christ. The "it" is the Rock.
    The Catholic church states that Peter is the Rock, and the first "Pope."
    Peter is NOT the Rock:
    1 Peter 2:6-8
    Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
    7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
    8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
    Peter tells us the Rock is PRECIOUS then follows that "he that BELIEVETH ON HIM" and those who "BELIEVE HE IS PRECIOUS."
    Does Peter say "I am the Rock?"
    The Rock is Christ, NOT the Church, or Peter.
    Paul quotes the SAME SCRIPTURE in Romans Chapter 9 as Peter did; which is from ISAIAH 28 SPECIFICALLY VERSE 16:
    Romans 9:32-33
    Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
    33As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
    1 Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
    Paul does NOT say the Rock is Peter EITHER.
    The Rock is found in the Old Testament and it is GOD, not a group of saints:
    DEUTERONOMY 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
    DEUTERONOMY 32:15 But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
    1 SAMUEL 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
    2 SAMUEL 22:2 And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;
    2 SAMUEL 22:47 The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and exalted be the God of the rock of my salvation.
    2 SAMUEL 23:3 The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.
    PSALM 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.
    When was the Church ever in Hell?
    And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
    Who was?
    Ephesians 4:8-10
    Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower PARTS of the earth? 10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
    Parts PLURAL, Abraham's Bosom and Hell.
    1 PETER 3:18-20
    For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
    19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
    20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
    Men are referred to as souls, not spirits.
    Jesus Christ preached to the wicked in Hell, why?
    Colossians 2:15
    And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
    PSALM 2 AND Psalm 16 (called the "other psalm" verse 35) is quoted by Peter concerning Jesus:
    ACTS 13:33-35

    as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. 34And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. 35Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
    PSALM 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
    When was David in Hell?
    This verse in Psalms is prophecy of the Rock, Jesus Christ.

  • @chadmeidl1140
    @chadmeidl1140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @12:55 Ignatius is NOT a church "father."
    1 CORINTHIANS 11:18-19
    For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 19For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
    Paul states that heresies must be in order to understand those that are approved (Pastors, teachers) are made known to the Christian.
    The Church (whether catholic or Protestant) is not infallible. The Apostles were not infallible:
    Peter denied Jesus THREE TIMES (Matt 26:34).
    Peter rejected the vision in Acts Ch. 10 TWICE, so God had to show him the vision THREE TIMES (Acts 10:13-16)
    Paul grieved the Holy Spirit by disobedience:
    ACTS 21:3-4 (v. 12-14) Now when we had discovered Cyprus, we left it on the left hand, and sailed into Syria, and landed at Tyre: for there the ship was to unlade her burden. 4And finding disciples, we tarried there seven days: who said to Paul through the Spirit, that he should not go up to Jerusalem. And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, besought him not to go up to Jerusalem. 13Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus. 14And when he would not be persuaded, we ceased, saying, The will of the Lord be done. Paul disobeyed the Holy Spirit and went to Jerusalem.
    IF the Apostles were NOT infallible and the early Church was not infallible WHAT was?
    There are NO errors in the written word. 1 PETER 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
    Private interpretation has nothing to do with reading the Bible for yourself.
    JOHN 10:34-35 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
    HEBREWS 12:12-13 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
    QUICK, adjective [If q is a dialectical prefix, as I suppose, this word coincides with the Latin vigeo, vegeo, and vig, veg, radical, coincide with wag.] 1. Primarily, alive; living; opposed to dead or unanimated; as quick flesh. Leviticus 13:10. The Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead. 2 Timothy 4:1.
    The scripture is ALIVE. It can discern your thoughts and intents. It sees ALL MEN.
    Can "tradition" do this? The church "fathers?"
    The Church Fathers wrote the epistles and Books of the New Testament:
    1. MATTHEW (Levi, son of Alphaeus, an Apostle) [Matthew]
    2. JOHN MARK (accompanied Paul and Mark on their missionary journeys) [Mark]
    3. LUKE (physician and disciple to Paul) [Luke and Acts]
    4. JOHN (son of Zebedee, brother of James, an Apostle) [1,2,3, John, Revelation.]
    5. PAUL (the LAST Apostle) [Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 and 2 Thessalonians, 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon and Hebrews.]
    6. JAMES (son of Zebedee, brother of John, an Apostle) [James.]
    7. PETER (an Apostle) [1 and 2 Peter]
    8. JUDE (Labbaeus Thaddaeus, an Apostle) [Jude.]
    and the LORD Himself (9) writes the seven letters to the angels of the seven churches in Revelation.
    Clement, Ignatius of Antioch, or Polycarp of Smyrna were NOT Church "fathers."
    REVELATION 2:1-2 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; 2I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
    2 TIMOTHY 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
    The scripture is INSPIRED, INNERANT and PRESERVED.
    Heresy existed in Paul's day:
    GALATIANS 1:6-8 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    Here you have a false gospel.
    1 Cor. 15:12-15 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
    Here you have the heresy rejecting the resurrection of the dead.
    2 TIMOTHY 2:15-18 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
    17And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
    Here you have two men who were preaching heresy. How do we know they were preaching heresy? SCRIPTURE.
    2 THESSALONIANS 2:1-3
    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    Here you have Paul warning the Thessalonians about fake letters.
    2 TIMOTHY 1:15 This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.
    At the end of Paul's ministry, the apostasy was widespread in ASIA.
    These Christians were led astray by HERETICS. How? By rejecting scripture. Paul also warned of the apostasy to come from those without AND THOSE WITHIN the Church:
    ACTS 20:27-31 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
    It is strange that men will use the excuse of 1001 "protestant denominations" to NOT STUDY THE BIBLE because they are spiritually lazy. They instead become Catholic because of the "majority" or the "church fathers" or because they are unwilling to read the BOOK.
    What did Jesus say of the scripture?
    In His earthly ministry Jesus referred to the scriptures 20 times by the phrase "IT IS WRITTEN", if not more. (Matt. 4:4, Matt. 4:7, Matt. 4:10, Matt. 21:13, Matt. 26:24, Matt. 26:31, Mark 7:6, Mark 9:12, Mark 9:13, Mark 14:21, Mark 14:27, Luke 4:4, Luke 4:8, Luke 4:10, Luke 7:27, Luke 19:46, Luke 24:46, John 6:31, John 6:45, and John 12:14)
    Jesus quoted scripture, never the tradition of any scribe, priest or Pharisee of His day. Jesus wasted the Pharisees tradition.
    Paul referred to the scriptures 32 times by the phrase "IT IS WRITTEN," in Acts 23:5, Rom. 1:17, Rom. 2:24, Rom. 3:4, Rom. 3:10, Rom. 4:17, Rom. 8:36, Rom. 9:13, Rom. 9:33, Rom. 10:15, Rom. 11:8, Rom. 11:26, Rom. 12:19, Rom. 14:11, Rom. 15:3, Rom. 15:9, Rom. 15:21,
    1 Cor. 1:19, 1 Cor. 1:31, 1 Cor. 2:9, 1 Cor. 3:19, 1 Cor. 9:9, 1 Cor. 10:7, 1 Cor. 14:21, 1 Cor. 15:45, 2 Cor. 4:13, 2 Cor. 8:15, 2 Cor. 9:9, Gal 3:10, Gal 3:13, Gal. 4:22, and Gal 4:27.
    This does not include other places that Paul cites the Old Testament in his epistles.
    ROMANS 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
    2 PETER 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
    The scripture was written down AFTER men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
    If every man is a liar because he has LIED (Romans 3:4) the EXCEPTION would be what men spake as MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST (2 PETER 1:20-21)!

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Far too long to read! Of course Ignatius was an early father!

    • @chadmeidl1140
      @chadmeidl1140 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@geoffjs Is the Bible far too long to read?

  • @frederickanderson1860
    @frederickanderson1860 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you prejudging all who profess jesus in their lives. You can't separate the wheat from the tares. God is the judge of who are the true followers,not your own opinions.

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@frederickanderson1860 Not judging anyone , just examining the the doctrine, the teachings of those who profess faith in Christ, but so often ignore what He actually said. But it is always fascinating to see commenters who open with an accusation. What spirit do you suppose, animates "accusing the brethren "?

    • @frederickanderson1860
      @frederickanderson1860 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@catholicskeptic jesus reply to.nicodemus is plain enough to know we have to be born from above or anew or again, depending on the translation. Nothing about you must be perfect in your theology and church teachings

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@frederickanderson1860 We do, but where does Jesus say being born again is accepting him , or confessing him? Where does the Bible explain it? Acts 2:38 Peter says in response to "what must we do?" He says "repent and be baptized for the remission of sins". In 1Peter 3:21 it says Baptism saves us, in Acts 22:16 it says Baptism washes away sin. In Matthew 28:18-20 Jesus says to the Apostles to go into all the world baptizing them in the Name of the Father, In the Name of the Son, in the Name of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. So perhaps "born again " isn't what evangelicals of the last 300 years have said it is?

  • @davidvanriper60
    @davidvanriper60 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hugh, instead of all this religious mucking around; why don't you simply repent, and ask Jesus to save you...He will.
    Prayers for you.

    • @eddardgreybeard
      @eddardgreybeard หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidvanriper60
      I love the part where you're convinced he doesn't live a life of repentance

    • @davidvanriper60
      @davidvanriper60 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eddardgreybeard My opinion is based upon Hugh's own words and testimony.
      Salvation IS repenting, receiving and believing in the finished work of Christ on the cross.
      I have yet to hear anything from Hugh but word salad. He rejects the Word of God for a fallible institution.

    • @eddardgreybeard
      @eddardgreybeard หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidvanriper60
      Why are you divorcing Christs work on the cross from everything he taught through the gospels?
      You cannot separate his death from his ministry.

    • @davidvanriper60
      @davidvanriper60 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eddardgreybeard The ministry of Christ through His Church is to spread/preach the gospel of salvation to the world, and through
      His Holy Spirit save sinners like me. He did not found the Church itself to be the METHOD of His salvation.

    • @eddardgreybeard
      @eddardgreybeard หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidvanriper60
      The Church teaches the ministry and the holy Spirit is with the Church saving sinners.
      And as we know, the faithful are the Church as well as the body of Christ.
      You aren't making any points that make your case.

  • @devadasn
    @devadasn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Catholics pray to Mary, blasphemy

    • @catholicskeptic
      @catholicskeptic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@devadasn Prorestants accuse Catholics of subjects they know nothing about, slander.

    • @flipneleanor7370
      @flipneleanor7370 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mary is the mother of Jesus and the new Eve. Is she not your mother too?

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Protestantism is heretical!

  • @tonyu5985
    @tonyu5985 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sola Fide

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      a doctrine invented by Martin Luther

    • @flipneleanor7370
      @flipneleanor7370 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are justified by works not faith alone.

    • @marlin6023
      @marlin6023 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Faith in Works
      (Deeds, Acts-Actions)
      Aka OBEDIENCE in/to
      Yeshua/Jesus.
      Paraphrases:

      "*IF*
      You Love Me (Yeshua-Jesus), Then Keep My Commandments.

      Show me Your Faith without Works, Then I Will Show You my Faith WITH Works (Deeds, Acts, Actions).
      -"James"/Jacob/Ya'acob/Yaqob.

    • @flipneleanor7370
      @flipneleanor7370 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marlin6023 How are you obedient to Jesus though? You are part of a rebellion against the body of Christ.

  • @Harbinger290
    @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Friends, beware of those who try to divert you from God's word and persuade you to trust their own words or church doctrine, even if their intentions seem good. Remember, we should live by every word that God speaks, found in His book.
    Matthew 4:4 (KJV) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
    There are many warnings in the Bible about trusting men over God. Just because someone claims something does not make it true. Let God be true, and every man a liar. Let us be justified in our words and overcome when we are judged by what? His word!!
    Romans 3:4 (KJV) God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Harbinger290 Yeah. Beware of you

    • @atrifle8364
      @atrifle8364 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I would suggest the way to start is by reading the whole chapter if the goal is live by every word that God speaks in His book given to the world by the Catholic Church.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello friend.
      God doesn't have or need a book.

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kitiwake Friend, God gave the book of the law. He certainly didn’t need it. The people did!

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Harbinger290 So, what's your argument?

  • @Harbinger290
    @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Hugh brought up some good points we should all strongly consider. Let’s examine church based on scripture!
    True church: There are two meanings of church in the Bible.
    1. There is the physical church or gathering of people who come together and profess Christ. Just as there were 12 disciples and 1 was a devil, not everyone who claims Christ belongs to Christ. In Matt 7:21-23, we learn that most people who profess Christ and work in His name do not belong to Him. Christ said there are wheat (saved) and tares (lost) in the church.
    2. Then we have the “one true church” or saved church. During the time of Israel, it was known as true Israel. Today, true Israel is the body of Christ.
    True Israel (church) is joined to the Gentile body of Christ (church) by the Spirit of God. The only people in the true church are those who have Christ's Spirit indwelling them. For instance, many people in the Catholic and Protestant churches are water baptized, like Judas. They may have even prayed to be saved and claimed to believe the gospel, but they have never been saved. They are like the crowd in Matt 7:21-23 who profess Him as Lord and do many marvelous works in His name, but they do not belong to Him. V21 tells us the problem - they never did the Father’s will to be saved.
    Question: What’s the Father’s will (Matt 7:21)? Do you know if you’ve done His will to be saved or are you just doing good works?
    Faith without works is dead!
    Works without faith produces - dead works!

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Harbinger290 Faith and works. Faith and works. It's not complicated

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Harbinger290 Faith and works. Faith and works. It's not complicated. There's no such thing as dead works. What are those. Way to twist James' words

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sbblando8533I could share way more with you about - dead works - but I doubt you really want to understand.
      Hebrews 9:14 (KJV) How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from ***dead works to serve the living God?

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sbblando8533Friend, I honestly don’t mean this rudely but I’m not interested in a low level discussion based on your opinions that aren’t rooted in honest contemplation of my questions!

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Harbinger290 Yeah. Same. You're just sharing your own opinion and interpretation of Scripture. I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in real Christianity. Not harbinger "christianity". You don't make good arguments

  • @tony1685
    @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it should talk about how ironic it is for catholicism to claim it loves or has a relationship with Jesus.
    He asks one thing in John 14:15 -- they fail to keep Them, sadly -- showing they don't love Him.

    • @iggyantioch
      @iggyantioch หลายเดือนก่อน

      But you submit to it's authority don't you.
      Every time you hold your Bible and site scripture you assent to Her authority.
      Tony, stay safe.

    • @tony1685
      @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iggyantioch 'authority' ?? sorry, friend -- catholicism has less authority than my dog.
      with this world, it runs it -- this is Satan's world -- but among Christians, absolutely zero.
      i have a Christian Bible, not the catholic 'bible' -- many differences.

    • @tony1685
      @tony1685 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iggyantioch nonsense friend, i use the Christian Bible, not the catholic 'bible'. the HS is the only Authority.

    • @iggyantioch
      @iggyantioch หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tony1685
      What ever makes you feel better.

    • @iggyantioch
      @iggyantioch หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tony1685 ok
      What other Christian churches do you say fulfill your comment

  • @ralf547
    @ralf547 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you ever watched your own videos? You say the same things, despite what the video is titled. Such as; a book didn't fall from heaven. The bible isn't as important as the church. Peter is the first Pope. God's church will not be held back by the gates of hell. The Sacraments are a means of grace. Luther was mentally ill and imperfect. The culture of the early church was illiterate. Some of this is true. Some isn't. But you don't really say anything edifying in any of the recent videos. The content is the same.
    We certainly are all baptized into one body of Christ. The Church can't be divided from the Body of Christ, and it can't exist without His Word. Catholicism isn't God's body. It contains some who are members and others who aren't members of His Body.
    The relationship between faith and works is explained in the book of James. Just as it's explained in Hebrews 11 which tells us that works only happen after faith. Works don't save, but they are the result of being changed/redeemed/born again/saved. If our works contributed to our redemption, we could boast. But we can't. We are saved only by God's gifting of saving faith which comes by hearing God's Word, and we are saved to do good works.
    God's Word explains it all so clearly. But you listen to and put your trust in a church instead of Christ who by the way is the Word of God.

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Are you saying that Jesus didn’t est His One True Church & that we don’t have to obey the Catholic Church?

    • @ralf547
      @ralf547 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@geoffjs you are commanded to obey God. The Catholic church is divided on whether or not to obey the current Pope. No church should require obedience to it. It should point to Jesus and preach/teach God's Word and His truth, and instruct obedience of God.

    • @geoffjs
      @geoffjs หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ralf547Precisely because Protestantism doesn’t believe that it should obey His One True Church that He est with hierarchy & delegating authority to His earthly representative refer Isa 22:22, is why you have confusion, division & scandal of 000’s of sects which is not of Jesus Jn 17 20-23. For Protestants, it is “my way or the highway”
      Can you identify any country, corporate or family that does not have hierarchy & a system with authority which is required for sustainability? Protestantism, by contrast, with its personal individualism & interpretation, by definition, is not sustainable. If you doubt that, why does the splintering & scattering continue?
      The CC during her 2000 yrs has experienced bad popes in the past & has always recovered strongly! Guess what, we believe Jesus when He said that the gates of hell will not prevail, as is evidenced by her history!

    • @atrifle8364
      @atrifle8364 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ralf547- Catholic Church absolutely is not divided on the topic. The US dominated Anglosphere watches too much Protestant TV/pundits mostly. We also have some converts with Internet connections who are struggling with their faith.
      Anyone who is publicly protesting Peter still has converting to do.

    • @atrifle8364
      @atrifle8364 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@geoffjs- This Pope may also still yet prove to be the victim of bad press. 🙂

  • @user-fi1pe4dg3u
    @user-fi1pe4dg3u หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hugh ? Have you ever tried to read yourself ? I tried and I can tell you, with certainty that you don’t have the Spirit of God with you. But it’s normal you’re in a false doctrine idolatrous religion and the Spirit of God is not there either.
    Acts 7:48-50
    Yet the Most High does not dwell in houses made by hands, as the prophet says,
    “‘Heaven is my throne,
    and the earth is my footstool.
    What kind of house will you build for me, says the Lord,
    or what is the place of my rest?
    Did not my hand make all these things?’

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Sure. Just quote random verses. Typical Prot

    • @user-fi1pe4dg3u
      @user-fi1pe4dg3u หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sbblando8533
      Jesus gave random verses to satan when He was tempted in the desert and he didn’t like it either.

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@user-fi1pe4dg3u Those weren't random. You got no argument man. Typical Prot

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Friends, at 4:30, Hugh questioned where did Jesus say follow a book. Jesus is God and He is the word.
      Therefore, I am willing to accept and pose a challenge in return.
      Let's look at the example of Moses and Israel. God provided them with a book to follow, known as the "BOOK OF THE LAW", and held them accountable to obey its teachings.
      Deuteronomy 28:58 (KJV) If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD. Next verse declares judgment on those who don’t follow the written BOOK!
      Hugh not God suggests that we should trust a specific group of individuals because they claim to possess the truth. However, the true measure of truth is based on God's written word found in a book. This book contains God's words by which we will all be judged.
      Time constraints may limit reading, so I will leave it here for you to contemplate further.
      I challenge Hugh or any Catholic friends to explain their interpretation of Romans 3:4 (KJV): "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is WRITTEN, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged."

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Harbinger290 Yeah. Old Testament writings exist but the existence of the levitical priesthood is still followed. It was not abolished. Their authority were recognized by every Jew. So Catholics believe in the Scriptures, oral tradition, and living Magisterium. Catholics are not Scripture alone and go on each one's interpretation

  • @Harbinger290
    @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Friends, beware of those who try to divert you from God's word and persuade you to trust their own words or church doctrine, even if their intentions seem good. Remember, we should live by every word that God speaks, found in His book.
    Matthew 4:4 (KJV) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
    There are many warnings in the Bible about trusting men over God. Just because someone claims something does not make it true. Let God be true, and every man a liar. Let us be justified in our words and overcome when we are judged by what? His written n documented word!!
    Romans 3:4 (KJV) God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Harbinger290 Yeah. Beware of you

    • @paulcapaccio9905
      @paulcapaccio9905 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The magisterium is infallible . 2000 years and going strong

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@paulcapaccio9905 Friend, making a claim doesn’t make it true. If a claim can’t be backed with scripture it’s not true. Question: is ccc 2068 a biblical path to salvation? Let’s start there. Thx!

    • @sbblando8533
      @sbblando8533 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Harbinger290 Yes. What's wrong with you? Pushing your own version of Christianity, harbinger?

    • @Harbinger290
      @Harbinger290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sbblando8533 Friend, please back your claim with an example where I went outside scripture. Salvation is by Christ, not a religion. Now prove that wrong from scripture. I’ll be waiting.
      God bless!