Two Verses Every Catholic Should Hightlight (Ep. 1 - Sola Scriptura)
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- Has your non-Catholic friend ever told you that it's unbiblical to go to a priest for confession? No doubt they quoted a couple of common verses to you to "prove" this and also told you that Jesus, alone is "our great high priest" (and that there are no ministerial priests in the New Testament). On and on the argument goes. But is this truly Biblical? To quote the non-Catholic's favorite verse, does it take into account "All Scripture"?
We'll be working through TEN Bible passages every Catholic needs to underline TODAY in your Bible, along with an indexing system that you can use in the blank pages of your Bible to help you stay on track.
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I block and boot trolls. Irenic or serious comments and questions are 100% welcome. One strike rule. You troll, you magically and instantly disappear as soon as I see the comment.
As a Catholic, I hope this doesn't include Protestant opposition to the video merely because it's vehement or condescending. I see only one comment that offers a counterpoint so far... hopefully that's just due to few people engaging with the verses.
Thank you for your zero tolerance troll policy! I'm reading through the comments. This is so refreshingly different from other channels that let trolls run rampant, insulting Catholics and our faith. I'm going to enjoy being here. Please keep tbe videos coming! God bless!
@@john-paulgies4313 The only comments I delete are those that are not productive engagement with the actual content in the video. I have learned that the trolls with the tired old script of anti-Catholic lists of things Catholics don't believe are ready to cut-and-paste into the comments. I don't have time for them. Honest dialogue and interaction is 100% welcome at all times. There may be a couple of these as you scroll down.
@rsmith5244 I'm sure he likes a challenge from protestants. It's hard to find people who know more than just the basics of Catholic theology and its refreshing when you do.
@@KennyBurchard "The only comments I delete are those that are not productive engagement with the actual content in the video." Does this include praise as much as a jeer?
Kenny you are fantastic! I’m a 58 year old cradle Catholic. I’ve been looking for a teacher just like you for years and years. Thank you so much ❤
How encouraging. Keep pressing on. God will take everything we give him and make good things with it. Let’s give him every minute of life we have left!!
I appreciate this video ! I also appreciated your testimony about converting to Catholicism. My wife and I started attending a Foursquare church in ‘20 and after a year felt a call into ministry and now I’m about to finish an online BA degree in ministry and leadership from Oral Roberts university. Yet I feel such a call to Catholicism and not sure what to do next everything I thought I knew I feel I don’t anymore… prayers appreciated
Thanks, James! Let's stay in touch. Feel free to email me: kenny@chnetwork.org I'd love to set up a ZOOM call with you and be an encouragement in whatever capacity I can. Sometimes it's nice to have folks to interact with in a much more personal way. I'd enjoy it.
God bless you on your journey. Protestants always tell Catholic Christians “That’s not in the Bible.” From now on we should respond “It’s in the Bible!” One of my favorites is 2:Pet1:20, “First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation..” It’s in the Bible!
@@KennyBurchardThank you Brother Kenny for your clear explanation..🤝
May GOD Bless you..🙏
@@KennyBurchard What is the best answer to give to a Protestant who says they do not need the Magisterium because the Holy Spirit which has been given to them teaches them all things? see 1 John 2:27
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off the top of my head these would be my response:
1. what’s your pastor’s name again?
2. Got any Bible commentaries?
3. Who is your favorite Bible teacher?
4. Wait. You have a favorite Bible teacher?
5. Is that a study Bible you have there. Where did those notes come from.
We all have a magisterium. Sometimes it’s pastor Bob. Sometimes it’s my favorite commentator. Sometimes it’s me.
Unless I am Catholic. Then it is the teaching office built by Jesus himself.
Yes, it is! Praise be to God!
Thank you so much, Brother Kenny Burchard, for this amazing explanation!
Welcome!
A+!!!! Can’t wait to highlight my Bibles and have this conversation with dear Protestant friends.
KENNY you blow me away every time you teach. Keep it up brother.
Thanks!!
The Bible is the main reason why I became Catholic. My wife bought me a notetaking Catholic Bible for Father's Day. That Bible is highlighted all over and I write what God tells me in the margins.
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My Bible is highlighted and I have a better understanding of these two versus. Ready for the next episode. Thank you
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Always worth pointing out who Timothy was. Not a random person who just wondered in and got a Bible but a Bishop. Also in 1 Timothy 3:15 Saint Paul says the Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth.
Biggest problem with Sola Scriptura is who is doing the interpreting.
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Wow thanks so much Kenny never seen these passages with this historical, and contextual perspective. Praise the Lord and may he keeps lay his blessing upon you and your ministry.
Thank you Brother for your Catholic clarity.GOD BLESS YUOR WOORK FOR THE CHURCH
Thank YOU!!!🎉🎉
@@KennyBurchard Of course you catholics dont care for the bible. You teach your young ones that the bible isnt enough. So the CC comes up with its own bible, the catechism, which says over and over again that the CC is Jesus church, and that images(statues) are a good thing. Economy of images. You make your children twofold the child of hell as yourself.
Excellent point about Ephesians 4. Definitely highlighted that. Thanks.
Brilliant idea for a series, Kenny.
Thak you for coming over to our side and home to Jesus' one, holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.
It’s good to be home
I have now written these in my note taking Bible.
Well done Kenny Burchard. I hope you do a deep dive on one of my favorites, 2Pet1:20, “First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation”
It’s in the Bible!
And what about the eunoch's story? “Acts 8:30-31 Do you understand what you are reading?” And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?”
@@DadoMac yep. Good point.
@@DadoMac Yes. Thats why I quoted 2Pet1:20. It rules out sola scriptura. It’s the Magisterium of the Catholic Church that guides us.
@@Spiritof76Catholicamen it’s the way Jesus keep his promise to guide us into all truth. The gifts of God to His Church!
@@Spiritof76Catholic not in my experience. The defender of Sola Scriptura will focus on the word “prophecy” and say they agree, no prophecy of scripture is ones own interpretation. But the entire Bible is not prophecy, so this verse kind of bounces off them.
This is singlehandedly the best way to battle sola scriptura and any minority that deviated from the body of the larger apostolic church. Thank you for this!
Thanks. FIght the good fight!
God bless you and your family for defending our Catholic faith in which should every Catholic suppose to do.
Thank you. Let’s get to work!!!
Last week I got highlighter I now own some crayola twist! And I ordered a wide margin Bible, I can’t wait to get it. Your catholic highlights is awesome, I have walked through the highlights from the crucifix episode with my youngest daughter who says she is “free grace”. We had the best conversation on each point and she attended 5 pm mass with me last night after almost 10 years of not stepping foot in a Catholic Church. I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate how simply you go through these passages in the Bible. Thank you!
Wow!! Praise God. There will be many more. I am on pilgrimage this week but the next set will be coming soon.
Well done. Love the concept. Great balance of apologetics and how-to. Keep up the good work.
Awesome video. I always like asking my Protestant friends under what authority did Peter and Paul decide that circumcision was no longer required. It was a vision from God. Had they just relied on scripture alone they would have had to refer to Genesis and see that it teaches Circumsicion is required.
Man, I getting some really great comments from you guys I've not heard before.
God bless you Sir Kenny!
Thanks!
Wow!! Rock solid argument!!
I meet with my protestant friend monthly and discuss a topic. This verse comes up a lot. I have to always remind him that we agree on this yet he has made this verse say something it doesn't. Then we go to why we worship Mary (his words not mine). Interesting point of the timeline.
I understand. It’s the shell game. It’s part of the process. Keep it up!
Thank you brother Kenny. This was sooo helpful.
Thank you brother for this amazing helpful video! Please keep them coming! God bless you🙏
I would add 2 Timothy 2:2 as an alternative to Sola Scriptura. You can show the contradictions of Sola Scriptura but the Protestant will just fall back on the idea that this is the best we have.
But Paul clearly tells Timothy to guard what Paul taught Timothy and to teach other men who will be able to teach others. Right there is apostolic succession and is a clear teaching for how the faith is supposed to be passed on.
There is not a single command from Jesus or the Apostles about copying the writings of the apostles and that Christian’s are to hold to only those writings. Not a single verse although they try to use 1 Tim 3:15-16 to support this idea. But not only does 2 Tim 2:2 refute Sola Scriptura but it also explains how the faith is supposed to be transmitted.
Thank so much Kenny for these tips.. I'll also mention 1 Timothy 3,15 .
Yep!
Bravo! Well done, Kenny! I knew both passages but never made that connection.
“Verses I never saw before!”
Thank you for your word of God, teach all who has lost and gone astray , keep up the good work one love brother man.
God Bless you brother!
Wonderfully excellent resplendent informative presentation Catholic Brother Kenny, I truly hope that you’ll be able to reach out to countless Catholics who are so unlearned in the Catholic Church and faith.May the All Glorious Exalted Praise worthy Thankworthy and All Powerful Holy Trinity Bless Guide Increase and Protect Your Holy Works in the Catholic Church for the rest of your Day’s AMEN DEO GRATIS ALLELUIA HOSANNA IN EXCELSIS DEO GLORIA IN EXCELSIS DEO 🙏🐑🕊️✨🔥
Thank you!!
This is simply a AMAZING idea! This is Holy Spirt lead to edify the Body of Christ.
I would like to add 3 more verses - John 20:30, John 21:25, & 2 Thessalonians 2:15 All three of these verse reinforce not everything is in the Bible, so we must hold fast to the traditions we have been taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter...
Really great!
Another point which I'm sure Kenny has made before is that some translations use the English word 'tradition' when the passages refers to men's tradition but 'teaching' when used in something taught orally. My understanding is the Greek words are the same in both cases.
We need more
I don’t see the point of the not-yet-written New Testament books.
Because protestants are not looking at when, whatever books, were written. They simple say all of scripture, is the sole authority for the Christian.
John 16:12&13, says His Bride Church is Holy Ghost guided….the guidance per verse 13, which is, what Bridegroom is telling His Bride, which is what verse 12 is saying.
Ask 10 protestants to define the church, and you will get 5 to 10 different answers. They say there is no authority of the church because there is no real body of people called the church, to the protestant mind. Allegedly they go by the Bible. Yet the Bible always says, the church in or the church at, a particular location. It’s never Susie‘s church here or Jimmy’s church there. It’s always, THE church in such & such location.
Thank you, Mr. Burchard!
Excellent pinned comment about blocking 🚫
Intellectual honesty is lacking with some "opposing" views.
Regurgitation of the same ole' talking points is not useful.
Before spewing nonsense, an honest attempt to research would quickly dispel many misunderstandings and assumptions.
I am personally looking forward to the series.
I simply cannot allow trolls on my channel. 100% forbidden.
This is one of the best explanations of an issue I have had with my Protestant friends and extended family members. I look forward to future conversations about other Bible verses. This is very helpful! Thank you, Kenny!
Chapter by Chapter, Verse by verse Catholic Bible Studies are sorely needed! Especially for the Apocryphal Books!
I agree. I talk about this with my wife all the time. Perhaps I’ll look at doing at least one book to see how it goes.
I would call them deuterocanonical not apocryphal that term is used by Protestants to demean the books by delegitimising them through the name.
@@Idishrkdmd I was Protestant most of my life - I never thought that or knew anyone who did. Sometimes I just like to type a little faster & not look up spelling.
@@KennyBurchard As an RCIA Convert, I know The 66 Books fairly well - relatively clueless re the "7 extra books" and it is so frustrating to not be able to find anything.
@@cindiloowhoo1166I get it. As a convert myself I spend a good amount of time in the deuterocanon along with commentaries. I spent most of my life not knowing them. I have catching up to do!!
The Bible was canonized by the Catholic Church around 400 AD. Then, around 1800, the Protestants removed the seven books. So, if we assume that the 66 books are the proper canon, then for around 1800 years, there was no authority or reliable authority. Our understanding of the faith before the 1800 period is all questionable. And God waited 1800 years before He revealed the true and complete understanding of the Christian faith.
Exactly. He waited 1800 years and decided to reveal it to a rather disgruntled German monk.
Thanks for the tips, Kenny. I also highlight bible verses on my bibles. I use a community Catholic Bible, Good News Bible and a KJV. I'm alao going to order the new Ignatius Bible with reviews by Scott Hahn. God bless us all in our journey to the Christian truth of our Catholic faith.
I ordered my copy too. Can’t wait for it. Awesome!
Thanks!
Dear friend thank you for the gift. I do not take these for granted and will put it to use for the channel. Peace to you!! - Kenny
So good
Thank you for your video brother it was helpful.
Really good stuff! Keep it up, saving this vid to my verbum highlight
My douay rheims was way to expensive to be marking up. It's in latin and English
Thank your for doing this video and hopefully many more. I had looked into this text before, but didn't make the connection to Ephesians 4:11-14. This has been very enlightening and I'm looking forwards to future "highlights". Thank you for your ministry. God bless you.
Great! 🎉🎉
I love this!! Looking forward to more videos on Bible highlights. A lot of my Bibles are highlighted but I only had three words in this passage highlighted; "unity of the faith". I'm highlighting the entire passage now. Thank you for the apologetics and inspiration.
@@30321495 you’re welcome!!
Wow Kenny, great video and your troll patrol is a great idea. I would love to see all YT videos, both Protestant and Catholic, do the same. That's a great way to help train us all to develop a respectful approach to dialog. Is that a YT feature available to every channel host like yourself? If so, I'm going to start recommending it in comments. Thanks.
It’s available to anyone with a channel and should be done whenever possible. Bridge building conversations and dialogue with respect (especially when coming into someone else’s channel) are the only way to pursue the healing of wounds to unity.
the 1st Edition of the KJV had the Deuterocanonicals and all the Saints' Feast days. Apparently, protestants think it wasn't "God-breathed".
I've seen a screenshot of the index of that Bible.
Thanks Kenny! Please bear with me if I am a bit long in debunking sola scriptura which even the Bible itself does not teach. I hope you can read my whole posts [in 3 parts] as additional inputs for you and your viewers.
Part 1
✔ You said correctly that historically, no Bible existed in AD64-65 when Paul wrote to Timothy at Ephesus. The Bible officially came to existence only in AD382 (when Pope Damasus, Bishop of Rome, proclained the official canon of the Bible) and in AD397 when the council of Carthage promulgated the same official list of 72 books to combat the proliferations of pseudo-epigrapha or fake or un-inspired writing proliferating in those days.
✔ Moroveor, Paul and Timothy were both Jewish converts, and what Paul called πᾶσα γραφὴ (Pasa Graphe) = All (that is) written (2 Tim 3.15) was not the Bible we have today, but about the Hebrew Scripture called the Tanakh which they have in its Greek Septuagint version. So contextually, the πᾶσα γραφὴ (Pasa Graphe) = All (that is) written (2 Tim 3.15) was not pointing nor pertaining to the Bible that we know today.
✔ You also correctly pointed out that the word μόνος (mónos) was not in the text. But even if ONLY was used an adverb for the past-participle θεόπνευστος (Theo-pneustos) which literary means 'God-breathed' or dynamically rendered as 'inspired' - it still does not present or presuppose any authority on the Tanakh nor did the text present the Tanakh as a basis of authority.
✔ Moreover, Paul has absolutely no right to designate who was supposed to be the authority over his Church other than those under his jurisdiction as an ἐπίσκοπος (Episkopos or Bishop i.e. all the Episkopos (like Timothy) and πρεσβύτερος (Presbyteros or priests) and διάκονος (diakonos or deacons) whom he ordained under his ecclesiastical jurisdiction. ONLY JESUS CHRIST has this right to appoint the authority of very his Church being its founder.
Great!
@@KennyBurchard - Thanks! ALL FOR THE GLORY OF GOD!
I hope you read also PARTS 2 AND 3 on separate posts.
By the way, it was NOT 2Tim 3.16-17, NOT St Paul who declared the Bible as God-breathed or inspired but rather they were Pope Damasus (AD 382) and the Council of Carthage (AD397) who declared the official canon of Scriptures, selecting ONLY INSPIRED Books to be included into the Canon or List of Books. Indeed it is the Church, the household of God, that Jesus founded on the Apostles (Eph 2.20), NOT on the Bible - because the Church is the bulwark of Truth (1 Tim 3.15), NOT the Bible alone!
Pray for me, a sinner!
It's interesting what the more bare-bones conception of sola scriptura has become. Jews appealed to the old testament vs the teachings of Christians which were not written at the time the former first objected to them
Thank you
Hey. I really appreciate and agreed with this video. My question to you is, Why then does the offices mentioned in Ephesians not exit in the Catholic Church today? I’ve never heard of a functioning prophet or apostle in Catholicism.
I'm not fully read on prophets but my understanding on bishops, and I believe the NT supports it, is that all the successors of the Apostles were called bishop. As I recall, the English words overseers and elders were used interchangeably in the NT but, over time, my understanding is the overseers were later called bishops and the elders came to be known as priest. I can't recall if 1 Clement uses the Greek word for bishop but, with Ignatius of Antioch in 107 AD, bishop, priest and deacon are household titles requiring absolute respect and authority. Ignatius instructs his hearers to follow the bishop as they would the Apostles.
I did hear recently that the Church does consider that Revelation ended with the last Apostle. I also seem to recall prophets were mentioned in the Didache but some scholars believe that document could be from the 1st C.
This is great
If you talk to every Protestant it seems the Holy Spirit is confuse because each one of them is telling that they are being touch by the Holy Spirit but they have different interpretation with the scriptures that is why they are more than forty thousand Christian denomination in the world because their authority is the bible not the church. 1 Timothy 3-15
Very true!
This is gold thankyou for this video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Immediate subscribe, brother. 👍🇻🇦
Welcome aboard!
PART 3
It is a Bible fact that...
✔ Jesus Christ commissioned men, not books; the NT calls these men "SENT" or in NT Greek, APOSTOLOS (ἀπόστολος) and not BIBLOS (Βύβλος or books).
✔ Jesus Christ sent them to preach the good news (Mk 16), not to write and distribute books.
✔ Jesus Christ advised them "He who hears you, hears me" (Lk 10.16) and did not say "He who reads your writings, hears me."
✔ the Aposltles went around Judea and outside Judea to the confines of the Roman world preaching about the good news without Bibles, and did not distribute any Bible. With a low literacy rate in those days, the absence of printing press, and the slow transport system, there was no way to reproduce and distribute Bibles because the Bible officially existed only in AD397.
✔ Paul himself confirmed that faith comes from hearing, NOT from reading or writings. Rom 10.17
God bless you and your family, Kenny!
Laudetur Jesus Christus!
So more videos like this addressing each Protestant argument!
Yep. Do you have a favorite?
@@KennyBurchard baptism is only a symbol!!!
@@truthnotlies great. We can do that one.
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Protestants like to quote one verse. That's like quoting one sentence out of novel to understand the novel.
often true!
Love you Kenny, but I absolutely cannot bring myself to highlight books and certainly not the Bible.
The most I'll do is flip down a corner of the page when I come across something thought provoking, but in the context of the Bible, every page corner would need to flipped down 😂
Ever since I saw your testimony with Marcus Grodi, I've always thought you'd be a good candidate to start a online channel.
May the precious blood of Jesus cover you, your family, those who work with you, for you and their families, preserve you from sin, and make you a stalwart defender of our Lord and Lady, through Christ our Lord, amen. ✝️
Thanks. I understand about the marking up. Maybe a discussion notebook with annotations!! 😊
@@KennyBurchard Hi Kenny, yes that's my usual approach with the notebook.
Although I'm considering getting a simple KJV, with a note section, and marking that up. I find that using a translation such as KJV, that all if not, most Protestants would find acceptable, makes for a compelling argument.
If I can show Catholic doctrines from one of the most Protestant translations, then that ought to give people pause. The translation objection used to be a big one in decades gone by, but seems to have virtually disappeared in the last 10 years.
keep it up .. ❤
thanks Andrew🎉
Great stuff
Thanks. Keep hoghlighting!
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The BEREANS!!! They are perhaps the greatest argument AGAINST sola scriptura. They lived and breathed the scriptures. They studied them. They discussed them. They pondered them. They disputed over them. They were totally consumed with 24/7/365 scripture. In all of this immersion in scripture, they missed one. tiny. detail.
JESUS CHRIST!
They had zero idea that Jesus of Nazareth was the long awaited Messiah. Even when Paul preached Christ to them, they had their doubts. They ran back to scripture to test what Paul preached. EVEN THEN! Not all of them converted! They were more noble than the Thessalonians, but that is not saying much! Poor examples to hold up.
Bereans, have you believed because you have read? Blessed are those who have NOT read, and have believed.
Good stuff
So Kenny, nice video. First one of yours I've watched. My only question after all your explanation is, what do I need outside of scripture to enter into the gates of Heaven and spend eternity with my Lord and Savior?
Also, do you call yourself a teacher? By what authority are you a teacher as you talked about them in Eph 4?
Peace be with you Dan.
I'll let Kenny answer your questions if he so chooses. But I can and will step in as needed if he isn't able to respond to you.
I wanted to point out regarding your first question that, before stepping out of the Bible, that perhaps you ought to observe what the Bible teaches first. For example, do you observe the Sacraments instituted by Jesus and the Apostles, such as the Eucharist?
Thanks, Dan --
I do not call myself a teacher (if by that term, you mean the office gift of Teacher in Eph. 4). I am a layman and a Catholic who was formerly a non-Catholic (from 1986 to 2019), and a Pastor for 20 of those years. I was ordained in the Foursquare Church, and seminary trained (M.A. in New Testament) from the Mennonite Brethren Biblical Seminary in California. When I was in that form of Christianity, I thought of myself as a Pastor-Teacher because I felt I was one, and because my denomination was willing to ordain me (though they had no biblical authority to ordain anyone, having no apostolicity, and having been started by people vs. having been started by Jesus).
As far as what a person needs, outside of scripture (by that I take you to mean "apart from what is contained in scripture") to "enter the gates of heaven and spend eternity with your Lord and Savior?" -- I guess my question back to tease out the implications of the question a bit is; Do you believe some religions say they believe the Bible but have wrong interpretations of it to the degree that you would say, "That's not a Christian group, regardless of their claim to believe the Bible?" If you would answer yes, I'd say *you* have some things in mind in answer to your own question (since any group you might be thinking of also has a Bible). So -- what are those things?
@KennyBurchard tha ks for the response. I really appreciate it. You didn't really answer my question, just gave me a different question.
2nd question. Whobwoukd be the spiritual leader of a family. Do parents have no authority to teach the gospel to their children, or was it Jesus's plan simply to load them in the car and take them to church for the authoritarian?
Finally, what is the Holy Spirit's role in the life of a believer?
Highlighted.
Great! More to come!
@@KennyBurchard can’t wait. And btw. I’m not even Catholic (yet)
Technically, sola scriptura is false.
In the early days of Christianity, not too many people are literate. Even if they are literate, not too many of them speak or read Latin/ Greek, the languages used in the bible.
Printing press was invented in the 1400's. Mass printing of the bible became possible years later. Christians rely on the church to HEAR the gospel. The monks manually copied the scriptures. and the copies are limited to the church.
So where were the 'christians' who insist on sola scriptura during those times?
Only people who can not handle the truth would still cling to this false idea.
@@DadoMac true!
As Catholics we don't mark up our bibles. I think for me it was out of reverence for the word of God. I now highlight verses that I want to remember
I think this is helpful and want to add more to the 2 Timothy 3:16 to 17 that most people miss. It states that all scripture is useful for training men into righteousness. That ought to mean that every command in the scriptures is useful for helping any man to be righteous. No Christian denomination believes that today. There are passages in the scriptures that do command the foreigner to be circumcised. If 2 Timothy 3:14-17 is true, then the command to circumcise the foreigner ought to be useful today, but no one today believes Gentile ought to be circumcised. We see that whoever really composed 2 Timothy (my Catholic Bible tells me it was probably not Paul) didn't believe the Christian faith like we believe it today. Again, when people throw 2 Timothy 3:14-17 at you, in response, you find a command in the Law of Moses that is not done today, that is seen as been abrogated today, and you insist that the author of 2 Timothy believed that command wasn't abrogated for Gentiles like Timothy. Watch your opponent go into damage control insisting that 2 Timothy 3:14-17 can't mean that and just keep reiterating its what the author wrote, they must believe that all of the Law of Moses still applies to every man today. It's fun to watch your opponent flail. Just recall all the times they tried to make you look silly.
You should have heard the stuff and shuddering when I said yeah I agree with that scripture verse but that verse never says "Only" Scripture.... 😂😂😂 Then they said.
Yeah but it says all.... And I said yeah but it doesn't say only.... Then they said yeah but it says perfect.... And I said yeah but it doesn't say only scripture... They would not admit that the word only is not found in Those verses... they got so angry
A catechist once told me “Text without context is pretext.”
Any two people can read the same text, but without context, each can declare himself correct even though they are opposed.
The Catholic Church has always taught the correct context because they have had the teaching authority (Holy Spirit) since the canon was set.
Pretext allows for human agendas and now here we are, with 30k+ Christian denominations, each with their own interpretation of Scripture.
The Protestant rebellion makes every man his own pope!
Yep
Patrick Madrid
"I never said you stole money"
2nd Tlmothy 3:13-17 especially 15
text sad "all scripture are breath of god"
not "only all scripture are breath of god"
As a Protestant we take scripture as the highest authority not the only. Take Israel for example being reborn. I didn’t need scripture to see God’s sovereign hand in rebuilding Israel although can be confirmed with scripture.
@@jaypritchard7122 but sola mean only
so title "sola scriptura" was scam
@@iwansaputra1890 well a lot of things have happened since 1500 with Protestant churches. Maybe Luther felt that way but not all Christians feel that way today. Many Christian denominations don’t look anything like Luther or even Calvinism. I know Pentecostals ( I am not one) look and pray for individual spiritual revelations. So they definitely don’t feet in Luther’s camp.
@@jaypritchard7122 so in the end is about me. my interpretation, my feeling, my christianity.
that GNOSTIC TO THE CORE
@@jaypritchard7122 My apologies for butting into this conversation, but your last comment is a complete self-refutation.
If, as you admit, modern Christian denominations "don't look anything like Luther or even Calvinism", then you are tacitly implying that those denominations are modern innovations that have no roots in Christian history.
If Sola Scriptura, however you want to define the term, is true, can you then show me then, a saved Christian recorded in the Bible who had access to the 66 or 73 book Bible?
After all, in order to utilise the doctrine of "Sola Scriptura", one must have the full 66/73 book Bible.
Oh man, this takes me back to my SBC days when I used to have like 3 different colors that I used to highlight scripture passages! By the time I was done, the Gospel of John looked like some day-glow rave party! I highlight much more sparingly now, and I use one of the Bible-Hi-Glider gel highlighter. Even on the thinnest pages, it does not bleed onto the reverse side.
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Thanks for the recommendation.
@@KennyBurchard - I go back and look at my 66-book Bible I carried for most of my adult life and for some reason I didn't highlight anything from John 6 or Matthew 16. Weird, isn't it?
What Bible ISBN number do you recommend for highlighting and marking up ?
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Truth is black and white. God owns all Truth.
Truth is objective, not subjective. Tradition can be subjective. It can change through the centuries.
We can confidently use the Bible as a measuring stick - synonyms for the phrase ‘measuring stick’ include a standard or benchmark. The Bible is the benchmark for truth, the book we can use to compare against other things in our life.
We tend to use other frames of reference when searching for the truth in other areas or subjects - a school teacher may use a list of correct answers (the truth) for a math quiz to compare to how the students answered, or a dashcam video (the truth) can show what happened in a car accident when both parties blame the other for the accident.
This is the case for the Bible - it is a book of Truth and there is no other source that can make the Bible appear as a falsehood. The Bible can be used as a benchmark against other religious books, other religions, including those that look and act like Christianity (LDS, Jehovah’s Witnesses, etc.) It roots out all false gospels.
You are prob familiar with John 1:1-2 where it states in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God…..and you’d prob agree that the “Word” mentioned in these verses is Jesus. Jesus represents all words in the Bible; the Bible is about Him firstly. And since Jesus created the world, the Bible (in its written form) had been planned from the beginning, along with everything else. Jesus used men to put it all together.
Look at how the Israelites (through the different generations) are patterned throughout the Old Testament as having turned away from God and started to worship other gods, or do other detestable things. He then has a prophet speak to them using His words - Words that spring from His mouth. He uses His words to get the Israelites back on track (for a while at least :) ) - He does not use any other source or idea like the traditions of men. So my point in mentioning this is that humanity (regardless of culture or country) is fickle and fallible and God knows this. That is why He does not use anything from humanity for correction (meaning our opinions or thoughts/ideas), only His Word.
How does one use Tradition to measure against fallacies or false gospels?
Absolutely. Just look at all Jesus promised in the Bread of Life Discourse, John 6:22-71 and they dismiss one simple phrase in it, “the flesh is useless.” It’s so very sad!
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In England, I don't have problems with protestants berating me for my faith. As both believe in Jesus. We don't have so many different denominations mainly three or four only. The problems we have are Muslims banging on and questioning me getting angrier and angrier, if you do not agree.
In a taxi ride, 30 minutes kept saying I'm English I'm not comfortable discussing my faith with you. May as well been speaking Chinese. When I arrived home paid him said this is your tip, in England don't discuss politics or religion with people you don't know. Especially at nighttime, as you will get hurt, this is for your safety. I'm a woman , but do this to an English man regardless whether he is religious or not, you will become extremely uncomfortable as he could possibly take you up on your anger and thump you.
There is no discussion with Muslims as they do eventually become more and more angry if you don't agree with them. Better not to discuss or ask to be dropped off at the nearest point where you can get a train or another taxi. It's that bad in England.
Great breakdown Brother!
Much appreciated
As a Protestant you had a good point in Ephesians. To help your argument before I say mine. Many could not easily read and write and NEEDED a teacher.
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The manuscripts used to create NT and also used for apologetics when debating atheists show that they still were being copied and passed around to normal people. They have spelling and word errors that wouldn’t occur in the educated authority class. This shows even the early Christians before bible was created were in fact passing around scripture.
As a Catholic Christian we know we have a Divinely Inspired interpreter of Sacred Scripture, it’s the Magisterium, the teaching authority of the Catholic Church. It’s in the Bible!
@@Spiritof76Catholic well before Vatican 2 you thought were Israel. The church persecuted true believers in Christ as well as non believers. Didn’t try to bring the kingdom with love but a sword during dark ages. Israel is back. The real kingdom is coming and some Protestant churches have the Israel flag and we look to real Jewish Jesus and wait for the messianic kingdom to come. We worship the real Jewish Jesus that also died for gentiles and can be adopted into the kingdom simple by believing.
@@jaypritchard7122 Even the demons believe.
@@mrjkstark “For it stands in Scripture: “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.””
1 Peter 2:6 ESV
The bride is waiting for her husband to rule and won’t settle for a seed of Adam replacement in Rome. Therefore we will never be United to you.
@@jaypritchard7122 For one, I’m not Roman Catholic. Second, by your logic you just presented the demons will also not be put to shame, because as we see in James 2 even the demons have faith.
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Ok...let's just go along with the idea that those books were not yet written. I don't have a problem with that. Since God, is ultimately the author of all of scripture, regardless of when it was written, and Paul and others who wrote were merely instruments of God as was their free will agency in writing the text, God clearly was not bound by time in making the statement through Paul regarding what the scripture was meant to accomplish. So, I don't think that the fact some books had not yet been written is a problem with the concept of progressive revelation. Additionally, did not Jesus berate the Pharisees for placing tradition over scripture?
5 And the Pharisees and the scribes asked Him, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with impure hands?"
6 And He said to them, "Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, 'This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me. (Mk. 7:5-6 NAS)
It would seem to me that Jesus adhered to this concept of scripture having preeminence. So, there is some weight behind sola scriptura when it is affirmed in practice by Jesus himself.
Kenny, welcome to theological truth and Christianity. Hoping also that you would have acknowledged all those Catholics for their efforts in convincing you that there is only one version of Truth rather than a multiple versions of truth, and that the truth only exist as you now know in the Catholic church. Welcome home, Kenny, to you and family.
🎉❤ thanks! God is so good
As a Catholic I don't recommend this version. Get a DRV with Haydock's commentary notes or even a Knox study Bible. I bought this bible because it was highly rated but as a Catholic Religious Studies major I was sooo disappointed .
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Or you can just read the protestante verse in context using 2 or 3 back and front you can find the answer to there question. 2 Timothy 3 if you read the whole chapter. It actually rebukes their argument. 3,2 “disobedient to their parents” who are there parents in the faith?
3,10 “you, however know all about my teaching” underline the word; “teaching” and mention the fact that Paul was speaking
Not being flippant when saying this, which protestants translations. I've talked with multiple protestants and been given two different view points on this. I think what is being said is that I would rather trust the Church that has been around 2000+ years and started by Jesus Christ than one started by man. God Bless.
2 chapters every Catholic/prodestants should know Mark 9 and 2 Peter 1.... explains away so many of the prodestant myths of Catholics and their personal interpretations
@@concrete3030 Matt say more. How so?
Mark 9 hasthe mount of transfiguration. My guess is he is talking about this proving the deceased can hear us. Could be wrong...
2nd Peter 1:20 is a solid argument against protestants making their own interpretations of scriptures, IMO.
@KennyBurchard I would love for you to take a dive at it also..
I can see many things happening in Mark 9 that start to explain some questions that prodestants have and some Catholics may not understand. Such as;
Saints in Heaven are alive,
much about the resurrection and our life eternal,
intercession,
how we only worship Jesus above all but that doesn't mean that we can not ask our family in heaven for their intercession,
the power of Prayer and fasting,
infant baptism in that the possessed boy was like that when he was an infant. Jesus says they do "believe",
also I see that we should recognize other people faith no matter how big or small and never do anything to hurt that,
that we can loose our salvation and once saved always saved is just not true..
And of course the Holy Trinity.
I can't go into detail about each here and also siting other verses that correspond w these but this is a very short caption of my thoughts.
@@KennyBurchard2 Peter 1
It seems at 1st the idea of knowledge in Christ is necessary but he doesn't stop there like so many scripture re-citers do.. it has to be met w Glory and Virtue
He mentions partakers, promises, our desire for concupscience that we must fight against. This starts to show how our fallen state/originall sin is in all of us and yes even infants as we saw in Mark 9 they are not excempt. Promises seems to also refers to baptism again which makes us partakers and able to allow God's grace to work in us more effectively.
Then he goes into these virtues so excellent.. even with all of the memorization of the Bible in the world our Virtue must also excel..as these virtues will give us knowledge of Jesus Christ.. compared to not only memorizing scripture
Of course we must Labour's in Good WORKS!! And this is how we sustain our "election"
Peter talks about his death, how he wanted to build 3 tabernacles in Mark 9 but now he calls himself a "tabernacle". That we should all remember his life and words and if Moses and Elijah are alive then Peter should be seen in the same way also..that Peter only helps us glorify God.
And finally he says "We" as in the Church it would seem has the more valuable word which should be trusted than just anybody who just says they belive. For instance what occurs to me when I read Mark 9 and 2 Peter 1 would only make sense if I was able to submit myself to the Church's "interpretation" and teachings. As when I am reading these I read them w Faith in Christ and his teachings which are from his Church and Holy Scripture.
These are just some quick thoughts that I had when reading that I would say go along with how Christ 1st started his Church which in turn he gave to the Church to recognize what was Holy Scripture...on the other hand to not read scripture 1st and then I make my own interpretations from it and then form or find my own church with the same preferences
All mispelling are because of my phone and autocorrect... not because of me!!!! Lol.
BULL'S EYE!! Sola sriptura annihilated!!
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