I Wouldn’t Own a Yamaha MT09 Today... (Here's Why)
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some of the same problems were with the mt-07 its might be because of the same spacer in the fork stem being too long
Should I trust that bike on my channel
Papa Yam, what about the MT-09 SP?! Love the vids, keep it up💪
The world journalists agree. The MT09 is built to a price. Thanks to the Duke 7/890, Yamaha has pulled their socks up and the 2021 model now slots between those two bikes. But I found the torque and gearing of the MT09 were mint. That’s the only parts of the bike that I like when compared to my Street Triple R.
Dont like the MT-09 but love the MT-10? I dont get it
You sound like a man who'd appreciate the smoothness, the dependability, the predictability in the corners, and the general adultness, of a car.
😂
Lmao
Lol, it weird he hates on Honda bikes so much. Everything he seems to want fits a Honda bike
@@toofastnobrakes i noticed a bunch of TH-camrs/reviewers blast Honda bikes for being "dull" despite not having many if any flaws. Like they hate bikes that just work 🧐
For a Z900 you were on point, until "general adultness".
I own a MT09 SP, and let me tell you, I cant even pull my riding pants up because of the excitement thrill every time I’m gonna ride.. yes its not a top speed machine but it makes you smile and forget all problems in your life.. ❤️
Same here buddy. My only mod was changing the stock handlebars to LSL X00. The stock ones just didn't feel right to me. Now it's as close to perfect as it could ever be for my type of riding.
I can’t buy the SP in the 🇺🇸
@@susdad why not?!
@@wyteice89 2021 is the first year available in 🇺🇸. Just checked . Thanks
@@susdad heck yeah man, I've got my eye on one. Might just have to make it happen.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but most people aren't going to be on a track. Most of us are only going to be on the street for 99% of our ride.
Most guys going out to their 1st, 2nd or even 5th track day won't even notice the stuff I'm talking about anyways - so honestly it's still a great bike.
@@yammienoob Fair enough, I'm just thinking the suspension would be more than adequate for your average person wanting to have some fun in the twisties. Mind you i currently own an MT-07, which i heard the suspension is terrible. I find it to be pretty good for the street. I came from a 2015 ZX6R 636 with showa front forks before that. if you not trying to drag a knee around every corner, its fine.
@@yammienoob Exactly. I've got the XSR900 version of the bike, and it's an absolute fucking blast to ride. Brings me smiles all day long. I'm like the opposite of you; I'm not looking for a specialized tool for a specific use, I'm looking for a fun all-around street bike. I'm not looking to take it to the track - I mostly ride around town, commute occasionally, and take on the twisty backroads on the weekend at not even close to a 10/10 pace, and it's absolutely great for all those use cases. The XSR is torquey and fast and perfectly adequate in corners, and it makes me smile all day long all the places I take it. Maybe I'm not skilled or aggressive enough to feel the shortcomings of the suspension out on the backroads, but but you shouldn't be pushing it that hard on the street anyway, and like I said, I'm not using it as a track bike. I will say, I added some CRG shorty levers and they really improved the clutch and brake feel IMO.
@@yammienoob get a MV Augusta...
You say that because you never had a chance to ride a Mt09sp(Olhins shocks) steering dumper, Ecu remap, homemade exhaust, Brembo Corsacorta with metallic wiring, R1 discs. Abs interruptor for racing.
I agree with some part of it..but calling it silly bike??? It feels silly when you say it's not worth to tune it for track..go and search the net to see what you can do with this superNaked beast. Mine has mt10s for breakfast.
Rsv4- bmw s1000r - gxsr owners look at me as an alien and probably think it's not worth it blablabla
I've spent around 3 weeks to tune it and approx 2000$.
Who’s the dumb guy buying an MT09 for the track ?
This video is just a catchy title nothing really useful
honestly, that's most of their content. Click bait.
YN: I Wouldn’t Own a Yamaha MT09 Today... (Here's Why)
TLDR: dont want one
@@NGeese does anyone REAL actually win the Giveaway bikes?? a number of companies were caught out doing these giveaway's to actual people they know so the bike went straight back to them and they pocketed money from all entries etc i don't trust these online Giveaway's (not saying this ones a con or anything) just have personal reservations on them that's all.
I’m 70 and just bought an MT 09, it keeps me alert😉
I know this is 3 yrs old and I cant figure how the heck I missed it! I bought my first of the mt09 family in 2017 when I was a young lad of 63yrs old. I am 70 now and have a 2021 mt-09 sp. If you cant understand the fun of a bike like the mt09 maybe you belong on a Grom?
I have been on the road since 1970 and enjoyed every bike I've owned...never owned an HD, rode one for a couple of hours in the early 70's and that was enough. Maybe the MT doesnt push all the right buttons for you, but this thing takes fun to a whole new level. I can cruise around like a sane senior, with the cruise on and just enjoying the ride. When I get tired of that I just twist the throttle and instantly I'm a delinquent senior!
I love it...most fun I have ever had on 2 wheels. Maybe when I'm old I'll get an HD...on second thought a URAL Patrol with a dummy machine gun mounted on the hack would be fun...bet I would be the only kid in town with one🤣
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree, being 55 years old I have ridden a ton of different types of bikes. The 09 carves the turns well enough unless you're trying to be a street Rossi. It has a comfortable riding position. I put a Conti TKC 70 on the rear and Shinko trail master on the front, so it does extremely well on smoother dirt/gravel surfaces. Done a couple of 1000 mile rides through all types of terrain and the motocross feel of the ergos makes it super versatile for low speed maneuvers and light canyon carving. All in all, if you only have one bike, this is the one.
cannot agree more. I do the same thing with my MT09, the versatility it provides and the pure psuedo mechanical feels that it provides is downright grin worthy.
He only said that the Mt09 "is to much for him and his ride style" That´s it, nothing more.
He voiced his opinion, I voiced my opinion, nothing more.
Mt09 fits no category. It does nothing well except a ton of unusable power
@@er98ahput down the bong... it does everything well.
I dont like powerful bikes either. Every time I ride the fz09 I spill my soy latte on myself
Relatable
LOL great way to subtly say it.
I’m always hovering the rear brake with that motor
😂
🤣
That truck backing up gave me so much anxiety
You guys get on a R1 and tell me this is not a good street bike ,than you ride a MT 09 and tell me it's not a good track bike, come on man!!
Yes you should not listen two of their video back to back. Their opinion change bike to bike. It’s a business and they have to write content, they don’t do this - only - for fun.
I mean he's saying it doesn't do it for him. He's not constantly cracking dank nooners, or getting crazy on the street (might be some history there) so this is more then what he needs. If he wants to go fast, which this does, he wants to do it on the track. Which this doesn't completely fit.
I've owned a 2017 mt09 it's a really fun bike when you want to ride like an ass and hooning around but every time you want to ride seriously on the twisty road it leaves you to desire more because the bike doesn't feel well cornering in higher speeds or it's really annoying bike when you just want to get home after a long day or early in the morning because the throttle is too snappy and clunky it makes my 2017 rsv4 feel like a totally reasonable commuter bike.
Mt09 is just a toy bike with cheap thrills it gets boring very fast and you left wanting something more dedicated and better, it's just like a supermoto bike it's fun to have it as a side bike but for everyday use it sucks.
Man y'all are so critical. It's good content calm down
@@matt7984 I like his personality like many of us but there's a lack of consistency on some subject. We suggest some improvement on this topic. They give advice on what to buy it's not only chilling hanging with yammy about bikes, people make loans following his advices.
I love my 2015 FZ-09. Yeah, its has a lot of power, and at 68 years old I find myself doing things I probably shouldn't do. But for me its a fine street bike, not counting a sucky seat which I changed out. And with all the fun it provides, while giving me 50+mpg and low maintenance, its perfect for me. If you don't want all that power, then simply don't twist the throttle so much.
I tracked my MT-09 SP yesterday, and it was awesome with the suspension dialled in. Lots of 3rd and 4th gear power wheelies. It absolutely shined on a technical track. LOVE IT!!
I absolutely love mine. Yes it gets squirrelly cornering hard, the throttle is still a little choppy in sport mode, and the top speed is only about 135. BUT, it's a torque monster for the size and price and it's an absolute blast to ride everytime I hop on it. It's very comfortable and I rode it from PA to the Tail of the dragon and back and had no complaints. I Would I like to have a Super Duke 1290 one day though.
I think it’s funny that you’ve brought this up. I have a 2018 MT09 myself that I use to occasionally commute on. It really is A LOT of bike to handle every day, and regretfully I find myself incapable of NOT twisting the throttle like a maniac because the MT09 just begs for the rider to do so. Triple digit speeds are a near daily occurrence on the MT09, and the majority of the time i do wish I had just gotten the mt07 instead, because the 09 is just just so speed encouraging and it’s only a matter of time before my license gets taken away because of it. Great video, you hit the nail right on the head with this one
kinda have the same relationship witrh mine! made me realise that i'd rather Ride fast a slow bike than ride slow a fast bike..
get good at self control and managing risks or don't ride imo. I keep seein teddy bears and ribbons and shit on this light pole that split some kid in half running from the cops a few years back. guess he didn't want to go to jail and lose his license.
same for me. one second Im doing 100kmph, then I want to pass a car and lo and behold its doing 180kmph :/ and it doesnt even feel like im going that fast
Sitting up I rarely speed just because of the wind, but when I tuck I find myself doing illegal speeds very quickly without even realizing
Always appreciate a good conversation with the wind
Upgrading from the 03 to the 09, 2nd year of driving a bike. I just want to feel the 09's torque and power to be happy.
All the reasons you said it wasn't for you are reasons I want it. I might be having an early midlife crisis
Get the damn bike! Best advice I ever heard
Lol, I can relate. Dont forget that this fella is only 28.
He also seems like he would rather die than camp out in a tent. Would prefer the Four Seasons Hotel
I've had the opportunity to ride my brother's a few times. He had it remapped and put a better shock on the back...in the end, it is a great bike with more than enough power for the street...plenty of stomp...good for hooning it up for sure.
I'm currently working on getting my xsr900 to work for track and have to agree with most of what you're saying here. Would be a hell of a lot easier and more cost effective to just get a track focused bike but I still get a massive grin on my face when I pass a "proper" sports bike on my retro yammie lol.
Love my xsr900. I'd love to try a track, but i never mistook it as a track specialist.
Upgrading from XJ6 to 2017 MT09, never regret it. This bike is so good looking, light and fun! I don’t like high speed but those accelerations...OMG
Happy Saturday folks!
For the street I think it has more than what you need, not all of us want track days, I prefer grabbing my dirt bike and hitting some hills, but each to their own. As far as it goes the mt09 is a damn good bike in my opinion.
Can't wait til the 2021 MT09SP!!
I'll take it if you don't want it :P
bro fr wtf 😂
This bike wasn’t built for the track. You’re missing the point of it.
"I've grown beyond that type of riding."
Wants to buy and EXC and curb hop 🙄
As a 22 year old with 2019 MT-09 as my second motorcycle, I totally agree with this video. Though I love the bike and sometimes still can't believe I was able to get one, I feel that subtle reminder of the plastics, the thrill over performance, the gosh darn hernia of a seat.... I definitely find myself tempted to try more, yet luckily with the help of the community I've been much more responsible, although maybe more because its a major mode of transportation and I can't afford to replace it..
Living the dream man
@JetFlaps a minivan
Yammie's next bike is gonna be an old honda trail 50.
XSR900 owner here. I bought the XSR because I wanted a powerplant different than the traditional high-revving 4 cylinder and the triple in the MT09/XSR900 fit the bill. I also prefer the XSR's looks over the MT. Plenty of power to keep a smile on my face but I'd have to agree that on the street its irrelevant (but so are many sportbikes). However its nice to have that power on tap for those glorious open roads or wherever you can rip on it safely. The triple does make for an awesome streetlight to streetlight type of bike. XSR is also comfortable "enough" for the long rides but could benefit from a better seat no doubt. I've taken the bike through some twisties and it does just fine. I'd say for a first or second bike or someone who just wants ONE bike, you can't go wrong with the MT09/XSR900. The XSR900 is my first street bike purchase and so far I love the bike. I try and find every excuse I can to ride it. Also A mode is just stupid and should be avoided. I love death machines for some reason.
"I like my bikes to be a little bit more turn-key"....says the man who built an adventure Grom!
You have to admit that was good for a laugh...
And who tore apart a Harley to build the engine up from the bottom end...
Hey there, as an experienced rider myself, I agree with where you are going with regards to not wanting a bike with silly power and something that is refined. However you mentioned that you wanted something more track ready, but only referred to the Desert sled. You do track days with that one?
You and I see motorcycles in a very different way. I used to be into cruisers and am starting to change my mind. I'm now leaning towards adventure bikes. I'm really liking the new Triumph Tiger 850 sport. It would have to be loaded with all options for my tastes. I commute and go sight seeing and go shopping on my bike. I NEVER need a race bike.
Bro, I love this bike, it takes me from work and back home with a big smile on my face, and it does the twistys just fine if I ride within comfort level
I just bought a 2018 MT09 as a second bike to an Electra Glide police. I love the Yamaha for everything it does, that the Harley doesn't. I'm 58 and have been riding on the street for 40 years with LOTS of miles behind me. I rode sport bikes when I was in my 20s and wanted to recapture that sorta ride without having to be contorted and uncomfortable on an R6 or GSXR. the MT09 fits my needs perfectly... Okay, it's not a race bike with turn signals, and I'm good with that. But it does have better corning ability, and acceleration than the HD, which is why I bought it.
It's not a race bike you muppet. Yamaha makes great track bikes. This is a well priced naked street bike.
I've owned the 2017 model and I hated it riding it on the street especially in traffic. It's not a very comfortable bike by any means nor it's smooth for the street.
It's stupid bikes for people who want to ride like an ass hooning around and want something a bit more powerful than your typical supermoto.
As yammie said it's a very fun bike but gets boring very fast which left me to desire something greater.
I think the z900 is much superior bike for the purpose of "well priced naked street bike"
love the vids man
Just ordered some merch! Keep up the good stuff
The CP3 bikes are interesting. with the exception of the Tracer and to a lesser extent the Nikken, they are just unspecialized and kind of wild. Had the conversation with a guy who has a Vulcan and couldn't explain the purpose of my XSR900. Not great on the highway, too powerful for in town riding, not built for the track. And that's it's best feature. I can take my XSR anywhere and just do whatever and only have one bike.
Fellow xsr900 bro! Best purchase i ever made. Its fun, it commutes, it cruises, it drags and pulls twisties well. Hella fun bike.
get a windshield. thats all I needed to do for highways, track can be tricky but still insane, fast and wild. this bike is exactly how I like my ladies xD
The Mt09 is amazing, and explained like this make it understandable in a vast sense of the motorcycle market. It has its great qualities and others that should of been on the options sheet. 👍
Hey there. I watch u from Romania and I love your videos. Keep it up, u are great ;)
I might agree in afew years, second year of having my licence and just bought myself a 2021 mt09 and I'm god damn loving it! Checking back in in 5 years when im on a 401 husky
*MT 09 is my Dream Bike* ✨
One thing I forgot to mention though, the GPR stabilizer makes that steering so much more palatable. Definitely recommend it as the first mod you do on the bike for the safety and the general feel after you do. Just don't strip your screws...thats some expensive aluminum...
Is the cornering really that unstable?? I’m on an HD sportster rn, and I can’t imagine it being anymore unstable at “high” speeds than this little sporty…do people just have really high expectations??
@@gilbertn60133 I think it's more of a torque issue. It took a while to get used to feathering the throttle. And with the higher position of the steering, it feels more at risk of high siding if you can't position yourself correctly. Hitting gravel in a corner makes the bike want to stand up, so the stabilizer really helps mellow out the little wobbles.
Meet a dude that has owned 43 Motorcycles. He said the Fz09 was in his top 5. Different strokes for different folks in the end. I like building it to my specifications. I feel the power is worth the attention to the suspension and add where Yamaha is not.
Passed my msf course today! Ready for that turbo busa now. 😁
Ok with that. I mean standart MT-09, but MT-09 SP Edition is one of the best bikes Yamaha has ever produced. Öhlins solves suspension related problems on that SP one.
Honest review! I rode this model was wholly unimpressed with the handling and throttle response. Nice to see a bigger youtuber giving an honest opinion! Perhaps Yamaha have tried harder with the upcoming model.
In a world of street triple, I wudnt own an mt09
I love that one of the reasons is "too much torque and horsepower".
kkkkkkkkkkk ,... kkkkkkkkk,..por isso se chama mt 09,.. master of torque ,...kkkkk
Hey love the vids just have a question. My partner is wanting to get into riding and as a beginner bike she is wanting to do weekend trips and possible too and from work looking for something not too high seat and not too heavy she has been looking at vstar 250 what do you think what would you recommend. And good up the good work
One phrase to sum up this bike
Jack of all trades, master of none
Jack of all trades
🇯🇵MASTER OF TORQUE🇯🇵
Definitely - it's a solid all around sportbike. It just doesn't do any one thing super well
But better be versatile, than a fool in all but one
Master wheelie machine....
Traction control off ...
B mode to tame fueling....
Ready for balance point all day if you're a skilled rider ....its all about proper throttle modulation....
Master of engine character. It's not quantifiable, but you know it when you ride it.
Appreciate the honest review
It's the perfect city bike, takes off from the line faster than anything around, and it takes the hard bumps with ease. I do admit the twisties get a little sketchy with the stock rear shock, but man do I love it. Good points though and nice video!
trust me with enough practise and trail breaking , those twisties feels like home for this bike. Wont deny I had some close calls but I shouldnt have rode this bike like I did on the R6
I own that exact bike and I agree with your comments about it not being very 'refined" but the power definitely isn't too much for the street that's what makes it fun.
I bought a 2020 a year ago. The price was good, the power was good, and at my skill level it was the perfect blend of power I needed. For the type of commute riding I do it was perfect. That low in torque in the right spots, that not over-the-top top end speed. It just handles well for everyday use. then they increased the power in the 2021. :/
I think i know what you mean. For me the MT09 is my third motorcycle, but having recently rode a XSR700, the ride of a twin, even at a lower power range, was surprisingly fulfilling. Almost makesme want top look at a larger twin in the future.
I started off on a 1981 yamaha virago 750 - great first bike
I have a 2014 fz09 now, upgraded suspension and ecu. I'm curious what bike you would recommend for my third bike? I plan on taking the fz09 to the track, but I'm not sure if I should get a liter bike or if thats the worst thing I could get
Do you think the same could be said about the Xsr900 for track or corner handling?
go vid :) solid review
Yammie what do you think about the Z900 ?
As an XSR900 owner, I agree with much of what you said. Echoing what others have said, I think that motorcycle ownership trajectory is an important thing to emphasize as you are now on the other side of the "power and performance climax," if you will. I would liken it to when you get really good at a given video game and then using the most overpowered character, weapons, etc. gets boring, but I think you have to ride that overpowered motorcycle or do a few track days on an R1 to get there.
Had 5 different bikes and I really like my xsr for my only bike. It's fun, I can go long distance and I can commute. If I had money for a couple bikes I agree I wouldn't get it, but for a do it all bike, it's perfect for me.
Hi yammie noob I love the vids
Great viewpoint man 👍
Let's be real, the swing arm captured frame is its shortcoming. Its also what makes it such a fun street bike.
Great video!
Nice Content
Can you make a video talking about the f900r or gsxs 750?
Do you think the changes to the 2021 MT09 make it a better overall bike? The new Triumph Trident looks like it's the perfect street bike, good price, good suspension, not insane power.
Trident power seems a bit weak. And we don't know how good the suspension is yet. We know they saved money on the brakes (2 pot calipers)
Great bike! Thank you!
Aren't yamahas practically unkillable
No such thing only turbo busa
I've wrecked my r3 twice and it got hit by a truck once, mostly only cosmetic repairs. The worst one was my fault and entirely avoidable. Had to replace the crankshaft case, but I did all of it myself in my garage just looking at a schematic, so I would say they're pretty reliable. Their failure rate in the first four years from the date of manufacture is one of the lowest in the industry. Something around 11% if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah I say that in the video
@@yammienoob Which is why I can't agree with you saying you want something "more quality" When the Duke breaks down what then?
@@Blanchy10 I think he meant quality of riding in respect to ability in handling most, or more conditions ( riding situations) rather than quality of build. Yamaha builds a quality machine in terms of endurance and design, but the MT09 is more of a squidmobile rather than a sophisticated all around riding machine.
I wonder what Yammie would choose as a proper "street bike"... CB650 or MT-09?
Hi , just curious if you compare MT-09 vs Trident 660, I know is different class but trying figure which is a better buy to keep for a while. Like the view and input.
MT-09 owner here. I actually agree with most all of your points. I’m looking to get back into something European next year, but I have really, really enjoyed my time with the MT. One thing that I think gets especially overlooked when talking about bike power is how relative that can be when you take rider weight into account. I’m not here to say that it doesn’t have plenary of power, but as a 270ish lb guy, the power and torque feels very comfortable for me under daily riding. I can image lopping off 100+ lbs would make a pretty big difference though.
As a 170lb MT 09 owner, I will say it's still reasonable enough to commute on, but goodness it will try to kill you if you give it the chance. 30-100mph is just stupid😅
Hi yammy, have you ridden the xjr 1300 air cooled ujm ?? Any thoughts
You dislike the Mt-09 for all the right reasons. I still love mine, but you definitely hit the mark on it. Cheap, reliable, and it checks a lot of boxes if you're willing to tinker with it a little.
The SP will take care of that suspension issue you mentioned.
2021 SP will cover all the other shortcomings. It's basically 90% new bike from the ground up.
Great video! What I, as a long time loyal subscriber and viewer of your channel would like to see for the intermediate bike giveaway series, for you to get the KTM Duke 890 as well as a KTM 890 Adventure R and compare their on-road manners and what kind of rider should get either one. I would definitely like to see you get more into the adventure and dual sport type of bikes. With it you already having a drz400, Yamaha getting rid of the wr250r, Kawasaki releasing their klx300, in Honda releasing their new bikes, there's a lot to do there. Just an idea. I'm really happy to hear about what you're doing with the intermediate bike giveaway series. keep up the awesome content! And thank you so much for being the one, the only, the man, myth, legend, PAPA YAM
Something I didn't realize about the mt line is how narrow they feel between the legs
If you are rolling down the road and having fun it doesn't matter what you ride...just ride!!! I appreciate the information...all information is good. It's okay to have another opinion. In fact, it's healthy! Keep it up!
Yammie can you review the Bonneville T120?? Was considering it as a 2nd bike to go along with my Street Triple R!
Don’t get one
The MT 09 is an amazing bike. I've had a lot of great bikes and this one is my favorite
What about the new SP version? Should handle pretty well.
I know that “growing up” feel 100%. Wanted a Z900 or something similar but when i sat on one and thought about how i was going to be using it (daily commuting and weekend trips) it made no sense. I call my new bike the “big boy bike”
Lol I guess I am still growing up almost 40 and still ride like I'm 28 lolol...
What's the street bike that handles really well and soaks up bumps really well?
No such thing only turbo busa
If you want to believe the early reviews, the new Trident does that
My street 3 is pretty refined over bumps and in corners.
So, would this video be valid for the XSR900 as well?
yeah dude i feel the same way. i've had all forms of bikes over the years and I feel like 80 hp ish is a good number for a general everyday bike.
Yams. You check out the service intervals on a KTM 350excf yet?
Cool bike. Super fun. But it’s got a dirt bike service schedule. Oil changes and valve checks are frequent.
They’re not horribly difficult to do. But it’s work.
I own a gen 1 MT09 and it really puts a smile on my face but it’s on/off throttle makes anything other than going in a straight line awkward.
One thing I haven’t really heard anyone say about this bike is that its instant torque make acceleration appear really fast (and it is), but riding my ZX6r hard highlights that the MT isn’t actually a high horse power bike. I think most people get blinded by that as the MT’s engine can be ridden hard so easily (torque) but the ZX is brutal when ridden how it needs to be - with high revs. I think this is where I disagree with Yammy with him saying the MT is too much for the street. That and it’s price is why it’s done so well
Does MY 2021 change this at all? The updates of the MT 09 vs the lack of change in the MT 07? The introduction of the Trident?
So i probably should go with a 890 duke r instead? I love ktm but reliability is my struggle
I don't get it, does every powerfull bike need to perform great on track? No, I like to have a shit ton of power on for example the highway but I dont need any track performance stuff.
Great review. I haven't ridden a MT-09, but I recently put a few hundred miles on a XSR900. I thought the XSR was surprisingly comfortable after riding 400 miles in a day. Yes, it has more power than I need for street riding, but how much power you need is a matter of personal preference. Handling wasn't great, considering the light weight. Sound is another matter of preference. To me it sounds a lot like an old Detroit Diesel. Kind of cool but not my favorite.
You got the "noob" part right. When are you going add the "squid" part?
I'm kindve biased because I bought my first Gen Fz 09 with performance Penske suspension front and back which happened to be tuned for my weight, akrapovic exhaust and a Bauce Ecu flash. I got a great price for it and its an absolute blast to ride. Maintain its line on curves. Have yet to track it but does well on mountain twisties here in NY/NJ. Absolute wheelie machine and hooligan of a bike.
Fu.. man your 28, thought you were mid 30's, only got a couple years on myself and I am only just doing my DAS, COVID permitting. Keep up the good work man
He just seems like he's a middle age grump lol
It was on my shortlist, but it was just a tiny bit underdone feeling. The bike I ended up with, the BMW F900r was just a much better all rounder with just much better overall refinement, despite being a lumpy twin.
Totally agree with your review. I was about to get one but eventually i decided to spend more and feel more at ease with a Street Triple RS, even though my riding is 80 % for in town commuting.
For a second motorcycle would you go for the MT-09, Z900 or Ducati monster (all 2021 models)