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Looks like you really went above and beyond the call of duty to procure your test beakers. Research like that shows us how dedicated you are to the craft; thanks for taking five, I mean one for the team.
This was just what I needed to find out. I stopped by a gas station to top off my tank and 3 miles down the road the engine stopped and would not crank back up. Just ordered some STP water removal to get myself back on the road after AAA brought me back home. Thank you Steve!
As far as ratios of water to gas and using the recommended ratio of additive to gas, this is the best one I've seen. Thanks for doing it the way you did.
Thanks for the tip on water removing products. I was using ethanol blended gas and let it set for a month. When I finally fired it up it wouldn,t hardly run. I have putting up with my bad running engine for a couple of weeks and today I put in some STP gas treatment, and am using ethanol free gas. Engine runs fine today, knock on wood. Thanks again for the test run on water removing products.
But Steve you R on point. I just fell into your words. For someone never fried an egg, never worked a stove. You go through steps in sequence to cook the egg. My dad would explain how things to be done. Right way😉. Q: When E & I realized water was in mower tank, would not start. Did this do anything to my sparkplug. New gas now, but still not starting.signed "Need my grass cut," Help A.Smith
I bought some STP gas treatment for some bad kerosene in my heater. Added a few drops to the tank this evening. Will add more fresh kerosene tomorrow and try lighting it. Thank you for sharing this video.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. My gas hose was left exposed to a 5" + rainstorm. I forgot to drain it prior to fueling my riding mower. After siphoning 2 gallons of gas with 2 inches of water, I poured 2 bottles of HEAT in and used a syringe to inject HEAT into the carburetor bowl. Started up ran rough for 30 seconds or so, then took off and ran as normal. I used HEAT because, as you stated, "must say removes water". It does and it did.. Again, Thank you.
Thank You Steve ... one of the most concise demonstration/tests I have ever seen on TH-cam. Very informative. No extra babble or guesswork. Nicely done ! !
Good comparison Steve. I bought my first car in 1970 and methyl-hydrate is still my go to product for gas line antifreeze. It's inexpensive and it works.
I had a problem with a surging motor and I found one of your videos last week. I am very impressed with your work. Excellent advice with a little humor. I will be going back through your older videos and watching plus any others you make. Thank you. Great job.
Thanks for doing an accurate, real life test! All the other guys take a quart of gas, add a cup of water, then 2 cups of treatment, and guess what, nothing happens. If you average a cup per quart? you would have a 1/4 tank of water in your vehicle, and no treatment is going to fix that. Your test shows how the treatment works on normal condensation in the tank.
Extremely interesting and useful experiment, Steve. I do have a few thought to share. First, the water was already in the fuel BEFORE putting in any of the additives. If I personally encounter fuel that has water already in it and it is for a small engine, I don't bother trying to make that fuel useful again. I dump it and get fresh fuel. I don't see that it is practical to put additives into a gallon of small engine fuel in order to get rid of water that is discovered to be in the gas. Second, the way people want to use any of these additives is to mix the additive into the supply of small engine fuel at the time the fuel obtained, with the additive then being expected to PREVENT water from ever forming in the fuel. Stopping water from forming in fuel is an entirely different situation than removing water that is already present in fuel, at least in my mind it is. Unfortunately, nothing about this experiment demonstrates that putting any of these additives into a fresh batch of fuel will prevent water from building up from condensation or other causes over an extended period of time. I store my small engine fuel outdoors in one gallon plastic cans. The temperature changes, rain, and other conditions can allow small amounts of water to form or get into the gas over time. Thus what I want to know is how effective these additives would be over a two to four week period of time in keeping fuel free of water that forms on a repeating basis. We don't know if there might be a saturation point reached where these additives would then fail to prevent further water from forming in the gas. Perhaps you could do an experiment where the additives were mixed with pure fuel at the start than a small amount of water was added to each fuel container every day or two for a period of 30 days. It would be much more useful to know if any of these additives would still keep the fuel free of water at the end of a month. For those of us don't do a lot of mowing, a gallon of fuel might last 30 days and we don't want water in it at the end of that time. What I learned from this experiment in your video was still highly useful because if I fill my vehicle up with a full tank of gas and discover there is a little water in the gas that I purchased, I can easily get the water out using one of these additives and don't have to drain the tank or lose the fuel. I was very impressed with all these additives. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Steve my dad died 10 years ago I have learned more from you tube and videos like yours to maintain and take care of lawnmowers and chainsaws than I had learned from dad. Keep up the good work Steve much appreciated!
Thanks. I’m on a trip and stuck with a bike not running. I checked TH-cam and found your video. Perfect! Maybe I can walk to a place where I can buy this. Now I know what to look for!
Methyl hydrate has always been our go too in fuel tanks on vehicles and such. The only other thing we have done is freezing the water and dumping the fuel in another container works with outboard motor tanks and Geary cans pretty well. Keep on keeping on
I started using the stp on my motorcycles because we have very high humidity and I could see vapor coming out of the exhaust after a few days of not running. I put it on every other tank, and I noticed that there is almost no vapor now. I also use stp carb cleaning additive, and the iddle is smoother.
Just discovered your videos today after doing a tune-up on my Honda mower and then experiencing surging. Amazon will have those micro drill bits delivered here shortly. Also, have a Toro mower where my sister is pretty sure she put bad gas in it -- now it won't start. Enjoyed watching your experiment. Thanks again for the great videos - good pace, easy watch.
Wasn't about the money saving..... saved me the time and issue of trying to find a replacement for methyl hydrate ... if not available. Thanks so much.
I thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated your tests especially after going through an arctic blast for 5 days here in North East Tennessee . We experienced lows ranging between 3 degrees on some days to highs of 14 degrees on some . Night time wind chills ranged from 4 degrees below zero to 20 degrees below for the lowest . My 2000 chevy silverado ran fine until the blast hit us and now it will start for a split second and then die . I'm thinking that water in the tank , fuel lines and the fuel injectors has become frozen and is what is causing my problem (?) . I'm going to try the STP product because it looked like it took less product to get the same results as the K-100 and the M.H. . I left the Seafoam out of my preferences because I don't like nor do I trust it . Thanks so much for your time and efforts in doing this experiment - 2 thumbs up .
Actually going through this as I type. BEST video on the subject. Us girls wanna SEE that it works and to know WHY its broken. Thank you much.... because I was dreading a trip to the shop (to be preyed upon)
It would be great to add the recommended dosage and maybe 1.25x dosage to the gas and then titrate with water until it cannot couple anymore water and then observe the gas over time to see if it remains stable over time. A hazy mixture may be evidence of a micro emulsion. These are notoriously unstable.
Can't speak for the others, but we use K-100 in all our engines 2 stroke, 4 stroke, marine and land craft. All small engines we also use non ethanol gas.
You're awesome, l like the way you demonstrated. I bought a product called heet, water eliminator. Looks like the STP and the methyl Hydrate seem to work best. I did see a video after yours where they used the heet, it worked but not as good as STP. I'll see if I can find that tomorrow and put it in.Thank you
Best test I've seen yet Steve, very well done. In another vid it was shown that Sea Foam wasn't as effective but apparently it has high "lubricity" and preservation qualities to prevent breakdown of fuel over time.
Methanol (methyl hydrate) is a colourless liquid with an alcohol-like odour. It is one of the basic chemicals of the organic chemical industry. ... Methanol is completely soluble in alcohol, water and ether. Methanol is generally used for industrial manufacturing purposes and has a variety of different uses.
Methanol is also used in drag race cars that run "alcohol" instead of gasoline,, although the methanol I speak of is being bought from a company that sells it for cleaning kitchens and other places where food is made or processed. Example, a bakery ! This methanol is blue in color which is just a coloring, but no matter if we ran methanol, ethanol, or isopropyl alcohol, the Chevy big block power, Enderle mechanical stack injection in a rear engine rail dragster bracket car and it made no difference at all no matter what was used. It ran 5.02 ET in an 1/8 mile, 660' feet.
I have to say this, Steve... this video (and all your other content) is ABSOLUTELY “top notch, bud! You are clear, concise and easy to follow. The information, you provide, is stellar! Thanks so much for making your videos! Something I’d like you to do, would be a video talking about gas stabilizers. Are they necessary? If so, what’s the best one? You know? From one proud Canuck to another: Just brilliant content, bud!
Wow that was great thank you I don’t know why I’ve never thought of trying to use a treatment before to get the water out of my lawnmowers gas. Awesome awesome thank you!
Checked out your video because I believe that moisture is the culprit of why my mower won't crank. Nevertheless, I found it to be very informative and more than likely not a big risk. I will be heading out to an auto parts to pick up whatever is available. Thanks for your advice.
Firm believer in seafoam. It’s more than just water control. It works very well as the stabilizer as well. And keeps your carburetters clean too.(or at least better than having not put it in.) i use it in everything from my chainsaw to my snowmobiles to my truck.
i don't think they will separate again but....."oil and water "don't mix so yes I m going to burn this old stuff outta my fuel and add ethanol free ASAP
You can also go the other way , add water to E10 ( in a suitable container ) and shake which will bind the alcohol , decant the gasoline off to use in your chainsaw etc. Once the alcohol is removed the gas will have a slightly lower octane however . If you live in an area where straight gas is hard to get , this can be useful for small quantities of fuel on engines that were not designed to run E10 .
I am watching this video today because I fired up all my small engines for the season. I tried starting my generator and it would only run when I shot in a little carb cleaner. Started by draining the carb and had an orange sludge. Decided to drain the tank and it had quite a bit of sludge so now I'm gonna change the filters and put in fresh gas along with cleaning the carb.
I think they just do the opposite action of ethanol removal, like you showed us in another video of yours. Of course they don' t make the water disappear, but just mixing it with the rest of the fuel and forcing it to pass thru the exhaust system, thus getting the tank rid of it.
These products do work with a small amount of water in the fuel, but there is another way to clear water in the float bowl without taking it apart out in the field.. The problem with water in the float bowl aside from the fact it sits at the bottom of the fuel is that it's surface tension stops it from flowing through the small jets into the carby throat, so if you get enough of it what can happen is the engine will idle ok but when you try to rev it the extra fuel flow draws the water up to the main jet blocking the fuel from entering the carby throat, engine revs drop and the water falls back down in the bowl and allows fuel to flow again and the engine rev back up and the cycle repeats. When you add a water dispersing solution like theses ones it breaks the surface tension of the water and allows it to pass through the small jets and go through the engine. But if there is enough vacuum on the carby throat then you can easily draw water up through the main jets but in normal operation you wont get enough vacuum to do that. So the solution is to open the throttle fully and when then engine RPM rises high and or cuts out as the water blocks the jet, place your hand over the carby intake (or thumb on a small engine li chainsaw) keeping it at full throttle, this will increase the vacuum at the carby throat and jet greatly suffice to draw water through the jet to clear it from the bowl. Once the intake is chocked off the engine will stop firing as it is flooding on fuel so before the engine speed drops enough to stall you remove your hand from the carby keeping it still at full throttle allowing air to enter it and the engine will rev back up, as it revs up high you do the same again, repeat this a few times will be enough to pull a large amount of water out of the carby. The same also works for partially blocked jets in particular idle jets so if you have an engine that runs but will not idle then try the same procedure choking it at full revs and throttle and un-choking it before it stall and do that a few times and you may find it is enough to clear the blocked idle jet and it will then idle.
AuMechanic, thank you for the great response. i was wondering if the fuel treatments were converting the water to something else or dispersing the water so much that it does not effect the engine. ⛽🌊🚰 Surface tension explanation makes a great deal of sense as well.
A very interesting experiment. It would also be good to know, if after a week or so, you added more water into the pretreated test samples to know if the additive will still remove water.
Steve, I have often wondered about these additives. I have used Seafoam in my Kubota L3830 diesel tractor for 12 years and have never had a water in fuel issue. Either I am very lucky or it works. I Use according to Mfr suggestions for ratios. Thanks for a great and informative video, as always. Michael O. Alabama USA
I am one of those old school guys. I buy Methyl Hydrate by the 4 litre (1 gallon) jug. I use it for a lot of other things. Interesting experiment Steve.
Thank you for an excellent educational video. The comparisons of all the manufacturers additives saved me a lot of "trial and error" work. Carry On Sir!
Steve I use K100 in all my equipment and my ATVs and snowmobiles. I like that if you add this to your gas just before the season end it is good for 2 years at the proper dose. Also the other properties of the K100 is raising your octane points and bringing back stale fuel and conditioning your seals and gaskets. I will not use anything other than this product just my opinion
Thanks for the informative video, however, would have been instructive to see if this would work on a gas tank with some water in it and then see if it would start up. This is the quandry I have now, putting the chemicals into the tank in hopes I won't have to pull the unit apart and drain it.
Thanks Steve ... I just added 3 - 4 ounces of Seafoam in my 2007 VW Jetta a day ago because of fuel issues and it was -40 Celsius here in Regina, Sk and it worked great ! But I am impressed by all the 4 comparisons and think the other 3 actually out-performed the Seafoam even though the Seafoam does work fine as well !!! :-)
if you look on the sea foam it is also a stabilizer as well and most automotive parts house it is about 9.00 a bottle it works but you have to use the right amount of if
Great video Steve, but I'm wondering if you can show us, how lets say a lawn mover running with this gas in the tank for each additive that you have used. I would greatly be interested in those results Thanks.
Very helpful. Could you test Heet (red vs yellow bottle) next time? Hate to ask, but does it remove beer from gas, in case someone makes a filling mistake?
Water does collect in gas tanks and fuel lines from moisture in the air, or from the storage tanks at gas stations. Today, however, vehicles in most parts of the country burn gasoline that includes up to 10 percent ethanol, a form of alcohol that performs the same water-absorbing chores as brand-name gasoline antifreezes. Products like gas-line antifreeze Heet - which are available at automotive stores - contain ingredients such as isopropyl or methyl alcohol (methanol), but they function in the same way as the ethanol that is already in your fuel. Gas-line antifreeze isn't expensive and probably can't hurt, but if you have 15 gallons of fuel in your vehicle and 10 percent of it is ethanol, your tank already has 1.5 gallons of alcohol in it. Adding another 12 to 16 ounces of alcohol is not going to provide any additional protection against freezing.
That was quite scientific Steve. Very good. Your chemistry teacher would be proud of you. Being from the US, using gallons and ounces would have helped.
Steve, an interesting question might be. What are the chemical ingredients of the products. Could it be methyl hydrate at various concentrations? To get that info one can check the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) of each product.
Hi Steve, How are you, one thing i like to say your are so informative, of what type of water remover to use...after all the tests you did..i think i found my preference..the best one according to your video, would be Stp water remover.. Thankyou Steve always informative.. cheers. .....
Great video but I can't help wondering what happened to the dye after the water was removed. What happens if you add dye directly to the gasoline? Will the dye disappear if you add these treatments to just green colored gas that contains no water?
Another great video. Have you done any experiments with Marval Mystery Oil?? We used it by the case to remove carbon buildup in methane (natural gas) 3:16 fueled engines on the job. It definitely worked. It is also supposed to remove water. Just wandering if you have tried it. Hopefully it is sold in your area.
world class video. so detailed and so exact. I appreciate all of your videos of what you do. you're the best... Bob...PS: please don't drink out of the wrong bottle.
So i can use STP/k100 in my 2 stroke outboard and weed trimmer unlike the methyl hydrate ??Sometimes i dont use all my 2 stroke fuel when am out on the boat, So i cant chuck whats left in my car because it already been mixed with 2 stroke oil, I normally mix fresh fuel with the 2/3 week old fuel that i had from last time i was out on the boat. Am guessing that the 2/3 week old fuel i mixed with fresh fuel will have taken some water in while setting in my plastic petrol can is this right and if so should i use STP or K100.
Great video! Would have also liked to see what would happen if you added more water to each bottle, to see how much each batch could handle. Still seemed like the Sea Foam was the least effective for the most money. Great job.
What would have happened if you hasn't shaken the bottle and just left them sitting? Would diffusion eventually cause the water to blend back into the fuel?
LOL!! I loved how you took a big swig of the laboratory green test water!! Nice touch. That was very impressive. I was very impressed with the STP... same results with such a small amount of the product and not bad on the price. Thank you Steve!!
We used to use methyl hydrate to unfreeze gas lines in the old days. Some of my buddies use it in their sleds for that purpose when your not to sure of the fuel you're getting.
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Looks like you really went above and beyond the call of duty to procure your test beakers.
Research like that shows us how dedicated you are to the craft; thanks for taking five, I mean one for the team.
the water was being absorbed into the skin of his finger when he shook the bottles lol
This was just what I needed to find out. I stopped by a gas station to top off my tank and 3 miles down the road the engine stopped and would not crank back up. Just ordered some STP water removal to get myself back on the road after AAA brought me back home. Thank you Steve!
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As far as ratios of water to gas and using the recommended ratio of additive to gas, this is the best one I've seen. Thanks for doing it the way you did.
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Thanks for the tip on water removing products. I was using ethanol blended gas and let it set for a month. When I finally fired it up it wouldn,t hardly run. I have putting up with my bad running engine for a couple of weeks and today I put in some STP gas treatment, and am using ethanol free gas. Engine runs fine today, knock on wood. Thanks again for the test run on water removing products.
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But Steve you R on point. I just fell into your words. For someone never fried an egg, never worked a stove. You go through steps in sequence to cook the egg. My dad would explain how things to be done. Right way😉. Q: When E & I realized water was in mower tank, would not start. Did this do anything to my sparkplug. New gas now, but still not starting.signed "Need my grass cut," Help A.Smith
I bought some STP gas treatment for some bad kerosene in my heater. Added a few drops to the tank this evening. Will add more fresh kerosene tomorrow and try lighting it. Thank you for sharing this video.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. My gas hose was left exposed to a 5" + rainstorm. I forgot to drain it prior to fueling my riding mower. After siphoning 2 gallons of gas with 2 inches of water, I poured 2 bottles of HEAT in and used a syringe to inject HEAT into the carburetor bowl. Started up ran rough for 30 seconds or so, then took off and ran as normal. I used HEAT because, as you stated, "must say removes water". It does and it did.. Again, Thank you.
Thank You Steve ... one of the most concise demonstration/tests I have ever seen on TH-cam. Very informative. No extra babble or guesswork. Nicely done ! !
Wow, thanks!
Good comparison Steve. I bought my first car in 1970 and methyl-hydrate is still my go to product for gas line antifreeze. It's inexpensive and it works.
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I had a problem with a surging motor and I found one of your videos last week. I am very impressed with your work. Excellent advice with a little humor. I will be going back through your older videos and watching plus any others you make. Thank you. Great job.
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Thanks for doing an accurate, real life test! All the other guys take a quart of gas, add a cup of water, then 2 cups of treatment, and guess what, nothing happens. If you average a cup per quart? you would have a 1/4 tank of water in your vehicle, and no treatment is going to fix that. Your test shows how the treatment works on normal condensation in the tank.
Extremely interesting and useful experiment, Steve. I do have a few thought to share. First, the water was already in the fuel BEFORE putting in any of the additives. If I personally encounter fuel that has water already in it and it is for a small engine, I don't bother trying to make that fuel useful again. I dump it and get fresh fuel. I don't see that it is practical to put additives into a gallon of small engine fuel in order to get rid of water that is discovered to be in the gas.
Second, the way people want to use any of these additives is to mix the additive into the supply of small engine fuel at the time the fuel obtained, with the additive then being expected to PREVENT water from ever forming in the fuel. Stopping water from forming in fuel is an entirely different situation than removing water that is already present in fuel, at least in my mind it is. Unfortunately, nothing about this experiment demonstrates that putting any of these additives into a fresh batch of fuel will prevent water from building up from condensation or other causes over an extended period of time.
I store my small engine fuel outdoors in one gallon plastic cans. The temperature changes, rain, and other conditions can allow small amounts of water to form or get into the gas over time. Thus what I want to know is how effective these additives would be over a two to four week period of time in keeping fuel free of water that forms on a repeating basis. We don't know if there might be a saturation point reached where these additives would then fail to prevent further water from forming in the gas. Perhaps you could do an experiment where the additives were mixed with pure fuel at the start than a small amount of water was added to each fuel container every day or two for a period of 30 days. It would be much more useful to know if any of these additives would still keep the fuel free of water at the end of a month. For those of us don't do a lot of mowing, a gallon of fuel might last 30 days and we don't want water in it at the end of that time.
What I learned from this experiment in your video was still highly useful because if I fill my vehicle up with a full tank of gas and discover there is a little water in the gas that I purchased, I can easily get the water out using one of these additives and don't have to drain the tank or lose the fuel. I was very impressed with all these additives.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Steve my dad died 10 years ago I have learned more from you tube and videos like yours to maintain and take care of lawnmowers and chainsaws than I had learned from dad. Keep up the good work Steve much appreciated!
Sorry to hear about your Dad my friend! Very happy I help...
Thanks. I’m on a trip and stuck with a bike not running. I checked TH-cam and found your video. Perfect!
Maybe I can walk to a place where I can buy this. Now I know what to look for!
Methyl hydrate has always been our go too in fuel tanks on vehicles and such. The only other thing we have done is freezing the water and dumping the fuel in another container works with outboard motor tanks and Geary cans pretty well. Keep on keeping on
Awesome idea!
I started using the stp on my motorcycles because we have very high humidity and I could see vapor coming out of the exhaust after a few days of not running. I put it on every other tank, and I noticed that there is almost no vapor now.
I also use stp carb cleaning additive, and the iddle is smoother.
Hey Steve. We have a tree service in south central texas and and wanna give a big thanks to you for all of your wisdom. Youve been a big help.
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Just discovered your videos today after doing a tune-up on my Honda mower and then experiencing surging. Amazon will have those micro drill bits delivered here shortly. Also, have a Toro mower where my sister is pretty sure she put bad gas in it -- now it won't start. Enjoyed watching your experiment. Thanks again for the great videos - good pace, easy watch.
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I was impressed that the STP did the job with the least amount. Great video.
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Wasn't about the money saving..... saved me the time and issue of trying to find a replacement for methyl hydrate ... if not available. Thanks so much.
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I thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated your tests especially after going through an arctic blast for 5 days here in North East Tennessee . We experienced lows ranging between 3 degrees on some days to highs of 14 degrees on some . Night time wind chills ranged from 4 degrees below zero to 20 degrees below for the lowest . My 2000 chevy silverado ran fine until the blast hit us and now it will start for a split second and then die . I'm thinking that water in the tank , fuel lines and the fuel injectors has become frozen and is what is causing my problem (?) . I'm going to try the STP product because it looked like it took less product to get the same results as the K-100 and the M.H. . I left the Seafoam out of my preferences because I don't like nor do I trust it . Thanks so much for your time and efforts in doing this experiment - 2 thumbs up .
You just saved me a $200 trip to the shop! Blessings on you!
Excellent!
Thanks Steve. I found water in my tank just from it sitting. The gas I add is always clean. I'll use an additive a couple of times a year now.
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Actually going through this as I type. BEST video on the subject. Us girls wanna SEE that it works and to know WHY its broken. Thank you much.... because I was dreading a trip to the shop (to be preyed upon)
Glad it was helpful!
Good video , we should do it again with more water in the fuel until it is not absorbed to see what is best at this .
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It would be great to add the recommended dosage and maybe 1.25x dosage to the gas and then titrate with water until it cannot couple anymore water and then observe the gas over time to see if it remains stable over time. A hazy mixture may be evidence of a micro emulsion. These are notoriously unstable.
But before I forget to mention this is an outstanding study!
Thanks for spending the time to save us from wasting ours! I was a Lil worried you were gonna drink the wrong bottle though!
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Can't speak for the others, but we use K-100 in all our engines 2 stroke, 4 stroke, marine and land craft.
All small engines we also use non ethanol gas.
You're awesome, l like the way you demonstrated. I bought a product called heet, water eliminator. Looks like the STP and the methyl Hydrate seem to work best. I did see a video after yours where they used the heet, it worked but not as good as STP.
I'll see if I can find that tomorrow and put it in.Thank you
Great demo! I'm old enough to remember my Dad insisting on us dumping a can of Dry Gas in the tank once the freezing weather set in. Guess it worked.
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That was a great show Steve you’re the man keep up the good work I watch your show every time it comes out.
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Best test I've seen yet Steve, very well done. In another vid it was shown that Sea Foam wasn't as effective but apparently it has high "lubricity" and preservation qualities to prevent breakdown of fuel over time.
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I've been rebuilding carbs all week on my power saws.All because of ETHANOL.Thanks for the video,it was my goto education.
Green water tastes good better than beer.thanks for the videos also watched piston scoring, helps to know the cause
Methanol (methyl hydrate) is a colourless liquid with an alcohol-like odour. It is one of the basic chemicals of the organic chemical industry. ... Methanol is completely soluble in alcohol, water and ether. Methanol is generally used for industrial manufacturing purposes and has a variety of different uses.
Methanol is also used in drag race cars that run "alcohol" instead of gasoline,, although the methanol I speak of is being bought from a company that sells it for cleaning kitchens and other places where food is made or processed. Example, a bakery !
This methanol is blue in color which is just a coloring, but no matter if we ran methanol, ethanol, or isopropyl alcohol, the Chevy big block power, Enderle mechanical stack injection in a rear engine rail dragster bracket car and it made no difference at all no matter what was used. It ran 5.02 ET in an 1/8 mile, 660' feet.
I have to say this, Steve... this video (and all your other content) is ABSOLUTELY “top notch, bud!
You are clear, concise and easy to follow. The information, you provide, is stellar!
Thanks so much for making your videos!
Something I’d like you to do, would be a video talking about gas stabilizers. Are they necessary? If so, what’s the best one? You know?
From one proud Canuck to another: Just brilliant content, bud!
Thanks Rob. I do have a video on Stabil in one of my playlists...
Steve's Small Engine Saloon thanks buddy! I’ll do a search, for it, and check it out.😎
Wow that was great thank you I don’t know why I’ve never thought of trying to use a treatment before to get the water out of my lawnmowers gas. Awesome awesome thank you!
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Checked out your video because I believe that moisture is the culprit of why my mower won't crank. Nevertheless, I found it to be very informative and more than likely not a big risk. I will be heading out to an auto parts to pick up whatever is available. Thanks for your advice.
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Firm believer in seafoam. It’s more than just water control. It works very well as the stabilizer as well. And keeps your carburetters clean too.(or at least better than having not put it in.) i use it in everything from my chainsaw to my snowmobiles to my truck.
Nice job Steve , but I would be very interested in seeing all of the beakers after an hour ! :-)
I looked at them this morning and there is NO change....
i don't think they will separate again but....."oil and water "don't mix so yes I m going to burn this old stuff outta my fuel and add ethanol free ASAP
We have ethanol free gas at two stations , I don't run anything on ethanol!
Very informative. I am a more informed consumer, which saves me money, because of your channel. Thank you Steve.
Great to hear!
I think MH is similar to what I remember as a younger person as Dry Gas. I remember we always added it in the winter when filling up our car tanks.
You can also go the other way , add water to E10 ( in a suitable container ) and shake which will bind the alcohol , decant the gasoline off to use in your chainsaw etc. Once the alcohol is removed the gas will have a slightly lower octane however .
If you live in an area where straight gas is hard to get , this can be useful for small quantities of fuel on engines that were not designed to run E10 .
I am watching this video today because I fired up all my small engines for the season. I tried starting my generator and it would only run when I shot in a little carb cleaner. Started by draining the carb and had an orange sludge. Decided to drain the tank and it had quite a bit of sludge so now I'm gonna change the filters and put in fresh gas along with cleaning the carb.
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I think they just do the opposite action of ethanol removal, like you showed us in another video of yours. Of course they don' t make the water disappear, but just mixing it with the rest of the fuel and forcing it to pass thru the exhaust system, thus getting the tank rid of it.
These products do work with a small amount of water in the fuel, but there is another way to clear water in the float bowl without taking it apart out in the field..
The problem with water in the float bowl aside from the fact it sits at the bottom of the fuel is that it's surface tension stops it from flowing through the small jets into the carby throat, so if you get enough of it what can happen is the engine will idle ok but when you try to rev it the extra fuel flow draws the water up to the main jet blocking the fuel from entering the carby throat, engine revs drop and the water falls back down in the bowl and allows fuel to flow again and the engine rev back up and the cycle repeats.
When you add a water dispersing solution like theses ones it breaks the surface tension of the water and allows it to pass through the small jets and go through the engine.
But if there is enough vacuum on the carby throat then you can easily draw water up through the main jets but in normal operation you wont get enough vacuum to do that.
So the solution is to open the throttle fully and when then engine RPM rises high and or cuts out as the water blocks the jet, place your hand over the carby intake (or thumb on a small engine li chainsaw) keeping it at full throttle, this will increase the vacuum at the carby throat and jet greatly suffice to draw water through the jet to clear it from the bowl.
Once the intake is chocked off the engine will stop firing as it is flooding on fuel so before the engine speed drops enough to stall you remove your hand from the carby keeping it still at full throttle allowing air to enter it and the engine will rev back up, as it revs up high you do the same again, repeat this a few times will be enough to pull a large amount of water out of the carby.
The same also works for partially blocked jets in particular idle jets so if you have an engine that runs but will not idle then try the same procedure choking it at full revs and throttle and un-choking it before it stall and do that a few times and you may find it is enough to clear the blocked idle jet and it will then idle.
AuMechanic, thank you for the great response. i was wondering if the fuel treatments were converting the water to something else or dispersing the water so much that it does not effect the engine. ⛽🌊🚰 Surface tension explanation makes a great deal of sense as well.
A very interesting experiment. It would also be good to know, if after a week or so, you added more water into the pretreated test samples to know if the additive will still remove water.
Great video, $2.00 MH seems the cheapest success, but they all work. Enjoy all your videos good information, thanks
thanks! this is a great video. just wanted to know what works
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Thanks Steve, this is the best test I have watched so far, watched other similar tests in which both sta-bil and star-tron failed.
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I have to say, I really didn't think they'd work! Simply amazing.
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Steve, I have often wondered about these additives. I have used Seafoam in my Kubota L3830 diesel tractor for 12 years and have never had a water in fuel issue. Either I am very lucky or it works.
I Use according to Mfr suggestions for ratios.
Thanks for a great and informative video, as always.
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Alabama USA
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I am one of those old school guys. I buy Methyl Hydrate by the 4 litre (1 gallon) jug. I use it for a lot of other things. Interesting experiment Steve.
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Where do you buy Methyl Hydrate?
Thank you for an excellent educational video. The comparisons of all the manufacturers additives saved me a lot of "trial and error" work. Carry On Sir!
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I'm an Old School Type, & Didn't think any would work
for me Steve, I would have been Stripping Down the Carb & Tank
Great Test & Vid, Cheers Steve
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Steve I use K100 in all my equipment and my ATVs and snowmobiles. I like that if you add this to your gas just before the season end it is good for 2 years at the proper dose. Also the other properties of the K100 is raising your octane points and bringing back stale fuel and conditioning your seals and gaskets. I will not use anything other than this product just my opinion
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Thanks for the informative video, however, would have been instructive to see if this would work on a gas tank with some water in it and then see if it would start up. This is the quandry I have now, putting the chemicals into the tank in hopes I won't have to pull the unit apart and drain it.
Thanks for that! It's such a big issue in Cali.
No problem!
Thanks Steve ... I just added 3 - 4 ounces of Seafoam in my 2007 VW Jetta a day ago because of fuel issues and it was -40 Celsius here in Regina, Sk and it worked great ! But I am impressed by all the 4 comparisons and think the other 3 actually out-performed the Seafoam even though the Seafoam does work fine as well !!! :-)
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Good to know about M.H. and 2cycle.
if you look on the sea foam it is also a stabilizer as well and most automotive parts house it is about 9.00 a bottle it works but you have to use the right amount of if
I love this video, I just learned something.. anything for diesel engines?
I have water in my fuel this was very helpful I can pretty much buy a cheap one and know that it will work
I am surprised that any of them worked like they say, but I do have to try some of them out.
I was honestly shocked too....
Great video Steve, but I'm wondering if you can show us, how lets say a lawn mover running with this gas in the tank for each additive that you have used. I would greatly be interested in those results Thanks.
I use heat and works great. My large boat I use a water filter and keep the tank full during winter
Very helpful. Could you test Heet (red vs yellow bottle) next time?
Hate to ask, but does it remove beer from gas, in case someone makes a filling mistake?
I believe most thought these products were a scam. Great job. Great instructional. Whoa! How many beers did this take?
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k100 is the best Little pricey but it does the job
Costs twice as much and takes just over 2.5 times as much product to do the same job as STP... I know which one I'll buy.
Water does collect in gas tanks and fuel lines from moisture in the air, or from the storage tanks at gas stations.
Today, however, vehicles in most parts of the country burn gasoline that includes up to 10 percent ethanol, a form of alcohol that performs the same water-absorbing chores as brand-name gasoline antifreezes. Products like gas-line antifreeze Heet - which are available at automotive stores - contain ingredients such as isopropyl or methyl alcohol (methanol), but they function in the same way as the ethanol that is already in your fuel.
Gas-line antifreeze isn't expensive and probably can't hurt, but if you have 15 gallons of fuel in your vehicle and 10 percent of it is ethanol, your tank already has 1.5 gallons of alcohol in it. Adding another 12 to 16 ounces of alcohol is not going to provide any additional protection against freezing.
I have been using the K100 it is also a fuel stabilizer. Did not know about the stay together please (STP) it looks like it will do a good job to.🍻👍
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cool video. I had bought and put in the STP before is even this. I think I'll be happy qith the results.
I done exactly as you said, some STP and then give the car a good shake, i must have the percentages wrong
very good and informative. Im going with the methal hydrate
Thanks Steve, very informative. I’ve been using the STP product and I’m happy to see you’ve proved that it works.
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That was quite scientific Steve. Very good. Your chemistry teacher would be proud of you.
Being from the US, using gallons and ounces would have helped.
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Steve, an interesting question might be. What are the chemical ingredients of the products. Could it be methyl hydrate at various concentrations? To get that info one can check the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) of each product.
Hi Steve, How are you, one thing i like to say your are so informative, of what type of water remover to use...after all the tests you did..i think i found my preference..the best one according to your video, would be Stp water remover.. Thankyou Steve always informative.. cheers. .....
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As a follow-up, I wonder how the treated fuels run in a properly tuned engine. Do they run as well as untreated fuel?
Great info, Steve I will have to start using some. The stock is most likely the easiest to get. Thank you.
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I'll have to run some in my 4 stroke small engines now and then. 👍👍👍👍👍
Great unbiased test. I enjoy your real advice and tip.
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Excellent project. It would be interesting to see if you added more of the water would still remove it as well.
Great vidio
I would like to see this with the junk 87 fuels. Water mixed with ethanol, then add these water removal products.
Great video. I use Seafoam in my truck and it works great. Think I may switch to STP. Love your videos.
Good stuff
Great video but I can't help wondering what happened to the dye after the water was removed. What happens if you add dye directly to the gasoline? Will the dye disappear if you add these treatments to just green colored gas that contains no water?
I have a 2 stroke outboard engine. Which one would you recommend to keep the water out?
Another great video.
Have you done any experiments with Marval Mystery Oil?? We used it by the case to remove carbon buildup in methane (natural gas) 3:16 fueled engines on the job. It definitely worked. It is also supposed to remove water.
Just wandering if you have tried it. Hopefully it is sold in your area.
WOW! I loved the test - loved your honest surprise about each products claims and results. Definitely subscribing. 😀
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Thanks for sharing the wealth of knowledge. I know what I'm going to look for tomorrow.
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I love seeing you doing science.
Really do.
Thanks for doing this, steve!
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Any pointers to shake up the additive while it's in the gas tank already that has unmixed and needs to be re-shaken up?
world class video. so detailed and so exact. I appreciate all of your videos of what you do. you're the best... Bob...PS: please don't drink out of the wrong bottle.
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Wow!! I had no idea the products would work so well. Thanks for the great content Steve.
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So i can use STP/k100 in my 2 stroke outboard and weed trimmer unlike the methyl hydrate ??Sometimes i dont use all my 2 stroke fuel when am out on the boat, So i cant chuck whats left in my car because it already been mixed with 2 stroke oil, I normally mix fresh fuel with the 2/3 week old fuel that i had from last time i was out on the boat. Am guessing that the 2/3 week old fuel i mixed with fresh fuel will have taken some water in while setting in my plastic petrol can is this right and if so should i use STP or K100.
Great video! Would have also liked to see what would happen if you added more water to each bottle, to see how much each batch could handle. Still seemed like the Sea Foam was the least effective for the most money. Great job.
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What would have happened if you hasn't shaken the bottle and just left them sitting? Would diffusion eventually cause the water to blend back into the fuel?
LOL!! I loved how you took a big swig of the laboratory green test water!! Nice touch. That was very impressive. I was very impressed with the STP... same results with such a small amount of the product and not bad on the price. Thank you Steve!!
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This video made me subscribe. Should have did a burn test also!
We used to use methyl hydrate to unfreeze gas lines in the old days. Some of my buddies use it in their sleds for that purpose when your not to sure of the fuel you're getting.