i'm not cody the car guy but all you have to do is just start the car and let it run.. i have a 2000 honda that had no gas cap and i did not know and all i did was put 91% alcohol in the tank and start it up skipped bad for a little bit but it runs fine now o and new gas cap lol
WORKED AFTER LETTING MY TRUCK SIT FOR TWO YEARS! THANK YOU SO MUCH! It is sitting running to kill all what's in the tank still. Keep rocking it with breaks forward and backward every 15 min... still suckin.... thanks so much.
Seafoam contains water. The ""other" percentage in isopropyl alcohol is water. Yellow label Heet is methyl alcohol plus solvents with a higher flashpoint and some light oils. Red label (Iso) Heet has some isopropyl alcohol plus other stuff intended to clean fuel injectors.
Water does collect in gas tanks and fuel lines from moisture in the air, or from the storage tanks at gas stations. Today, however, vehicles in most parts of the country burn gasoline that includes up to 10 percent ethanol, a form of alcohol that performs the same water-absorbing chores as brand-name gasoline antifreezes. Products like gas-line antifreeze Heet - which are available at automotive stores - contain ingredients such as isopropyl or methyl alcohol (methanol), but they function in the same way as the ethanol that is already in your fuel. Gas-line antifreeze isn't expensive and probably can't hurt, but if you have 15 gallons of fuel in your vehicle and 10 percent of it is ethanol, your tank already has 1.5 gallons of alcohol in it. Adding another 12 to 16 ounces of alcohol is not going to provide any additional protection against freezing.
It's more about dispersing water that is in the fuel, and for that, you want as pure as Isopropyl alcohol as you can get (such as Heet), or something like Star Tron that has enzymes to react with the water.
Cody, I congratulate you on this video. You have shown something that actually has value and explains the problem correctly. There are lots of videos on TH-cam by guys who claim to be certified mechanics and they are lost. My only suggestion is that you should have included Dry Gas, and then simply said: "Of course, you don'y have to use any of these if you use E10."
Lived in Alaska for years. Pubic service message was played from September to April on the local channels was great info for using Heet ( isopropyl alcohol). The message was simple, Always add in winter when gas tank in low of fuel. This way the Heet or alcohol will get to the water. Some of us put it in before we drove to get more gas to help it mix with the water that was created due to condensation caused by parking your cars in a heated garage. Heated garages are common as most homes do not have basements and furnace were installed in the garage. Nice warm garage! Taking your car from subzero weather to a balmy 70 degrees twice a day gave you condensation in your tank. Many people who did not pay attention to P.S. message had to drop the tank to remove gallons of water due to the amount built up in tanks. Not until now did I connect the dots to heet and 100%isopropyl alcohol being equal. Thanks.
I know an older video, but I can attest to this working. I used the 90% version of rubbing alcohol in a boat I had a few years ago that had a ton of water in the tank. Pulling the tank would have been a focking nightmare.... After a couple fill-ups it was good to go. It hiccup'd and burped a few times throughout the process, but eventually got to where it ran like a champ. All that being said, the boat had an old chevy 300ci straight six in it and I think you could have ran whiskey, rocket fuel, piss, hot lava...just about anything through that bastage and it wouldn't hurt it. Thanks for posting this. I'm sure it'll help a lot of peeps.
In 1992 l had a 73 pickup with 222,000 to 226,000Chevy or Ford (,thinking ford) got for 200.00 either way. It had a straight 6 in it .with 3 on the tree, that sat for over 6 yrs. Took a battery to it ,checked the fluids .I tell u this started 2nd try.. ran amazing.. i learned body work lol became awsome at it . the truck fell apart before that engine would ever break down. The old man once said years later he should of charged me more lol first that beast. I bet that engine would still running today as long as it was treated right. One of the best things ever made on this planet for sure.
Seafoam is a " FUEL" system cleaning /lubricating product, meant more as a barrier to keep moisture away, and from settling, causing rust and corrosion. I know many Ocean Mariners who swear by it. They use it to keep boat motors " PICKLED" during off seasons while in storage.
Thanks for this video. I know nothing really will cause water to suspend in gasoline for long but as you say the the two products on the left just might get the water to move through the system. Thanks again for taking the time to do a real honest presentation.
I've been using red HEET for years with the gas I burn in my Suzuki 2 stroke DT100 and found it does a great job removing any water that builds up in the tank. I pore some in the tank before I fuel up everytime. When I don't use it the engine can sputter and even stall out. Sometimes it won't even turnover. Holding the tank to sunlight I have even seen the water in the tank. If the gas is fresh that's not a problem but if you don't use the boat for a few days, get some rain and humidity you'll find water in the tank. With red HEET I have no problems leaving the tanks full for weeks.
Here's a question is it better to add the heat after you fill your tank or when you have less gas in the tank? To me logic would dictate that less gas to the mixture would be better.
What you refer to as "breaking down" the water is actually emulsifying the mixture. The products don't "remove" water, as you've also intimated. Unfortunately removing the water is the best fix and, for that, depending on the amount of water one has, involves work (dropping the tank, etc.). Water through a diesel engine, for example, is never good for the engine and could be very bad.
(I already said this) Why not open the fuel line before the engine and run the pump by itself a little. Since the water is at the bottom of the tank, the water should come out first. Make sure not to run the pump when the tank is empty.
Why not remove the tank and have a drain spigot installed at the normal low point(s)? Then after the water should be settled to the bottom the operator may drain the water off and shut the spigot. This is a procedure sometimes used in aircraft during the pre-flight check. (at least on some of the aircraft).
I worked on marine engines, an FYI use at your own peril, especially in a 2 stroke engine. Doing this, if you notice it does not evaporate the water, basically causes it to bond in with the fuel. What happens it causes a steaming effect and burns through the engine and at the same time what we found removes the oil that is meant to be a lubricant and caused engine failures. Did make a lot of money on engine replacement and rebuilds though.
Ethanol mixes with water vapor in gas tank and forms a jelly that sinks to the bottom. Then when you start your lawnmower or classic car it gets sucked into the carburetor or fuel injectors.Fix:Use quality fuel stabilizer like Stabil. But gas will still turn to jelly after a year, maybe 2 years. Gotta run that mower/car once every 2 months for an hour or more. After a year add more fresh gas and stabilizer.
just wanna add this thought.. when u read the directions for the additives you add to gas, it says to add before fueling, this is so when you pump the gas, the gas falling into the tank will mix and slush the gas around therfore getting the mixing action he uses with the jars, you wouldnt really need to drive eratically to get it to mix, sure driving eratically would problably help, but you would do that with minimal gas in the tank, so theres room for slushing around.. but pouring in before fuel up is the key to mixing it.
Just went through all this with my neighbor's boat, nothing is worse for 2 cycle engine as ethanol fuel. I have owned and worked on marine engines all my life, I once worked in a marine outboard engine shop as a part timer. I owned a shop which sold outboard motors and boats. We always told our clients to use only ethanol free gas in their engines. My neighbor came to me and said his engine would not start. It was a little 40HP Mercury 2 stroke. After checking the ignition system was working, I knew then the problem was with the fuel and carburetor. Sure enough, the float bowl was full of water. I remove the carburetor, cleaned it check it thoroughly. I ask my neighbor if he was using gas from pumps with ethanol, he said I get what ever is at my local stations. Yes, it had ethanol in it. I got a clean tank, new hose and hooked up the engine. It started and ran fantastic. Ethanol or any alcohol is hygroscopic, meaning it attracts water. Where we live is very humid all summer, so when the air (atmosphere) is drawn into the fuel tank the moisture in the air condenses on the walls of the tank. It then travels to the bottom of the tank and is picked up by the fuel line. This will not happen to fuel that is ethanol free. The new engines can use 10% ethanol gas but boats are not used on a daily basis. My other neighbor has a party barge with a 150 Mercury He has spent a fortune on repairs only to have the same problems. I have told him time and time again to have the carburetor rebuilt and clean out his tanks. Now his badge has been setting for 2 years. When storing your boat for the winter use a gas stabilizer. Now he is going to have a real problem.
I’m in Alaska and our jeep froze up about a week ago. We have it thawed out and the battery holding charge but no fire. This video just saved me from buying sea foam for this. Lol. Thanks especially since Covid, I think I have a good stock of alcohol. Thank you. I know this is an older video but thats the great thing about youtube.
I believe seafoam may have some uses but they shouldn't put remove water from fuel on the can if it's not good at that, sure it has a little alcohol in it but it makes no sense to use it for this purpose. Quite frankly it makes a very bad impression.
I washed my air filter a year ago and didn't let it dry all the way. And could barely go down the street and uphill. A week ago i put beryman 12 chemtol and it cleared the hesitation. I think I'll just put the seafoam. But am thinking about 99% alcohol also for a good measure! Thank you very much
Actually.... yeah, shake it up. I believe most instructions say to add to tank and then add gas. By doing so, you are stirring quite well; especially in an empty tank.
Thanks big time, I had some isopropyl alchahol from another project and it worked like a charm. I siphoned 2 thirds of the gas out of my motorcycle gas tank and put some isopropyl in there, pretty soon misfiring went away and ran the tank dry before putting fresh fuel in. Great tip to know!
The whole idea of the additives is to turn the water into a burnable liquid. So you get rid of the water by using it. Doesn't turn it into gas but makes it burnable.
I have a 2005 vehicle with fuel injection and has 18 gallon gas tank. I was told to put up to 4 bottles in my tank after a gas station was found to have a leak that allowed water in it. So how much iso heet is too much. The 4 bottles of heet worked btw.
Keep in mind why rubbing alcohol works even when it's 30% water itself. Water and gas don't mix. That's why water creates problems in your tank. You engine is getting one or the other and runs badly. But alcohol will bond to both, causing them to mix and carrying them to your engine as a mix, where it will burn in your engine. It's like the ethanol (an alcohol) that is often sold with gas. When I lived in drizzly Seattle, I often had problems with water condensation in my fuel tank. Occasionally putting a small bottle of rubbing alcohol in the tank would solve that problem. As he points out, it's cheap and it works.
Michael i have heard that when cleaning a small gas tank you can use denatured alcohol to displace the little water thats left after de-rusting with your favorite product and cutting it with baking soda, will isopropyl alcohol work also or is denatured stronger?? thank you for your time.
I wish I saw this a couple days ago, but atleast I found it now to truly understand how this works. Alright now I just have to catch a bus to go grab all these things lol, thank you for the video brotha!
The Chemistry is the thing to keep in mind. If you measured the level of the water in each jar, you would see the level rises in the alcohol and Heet as their ingrediants combine to the water molecules to make their mass greater and so will be at a higher level. The Isopropyl and Methanol of the alcohol and Heet show this and will actually ignite carrying the water with it in combustion (maybe not the greatest ignition though). SeaFoam states on its label that it is insoluble with water so obviously it is not going to do anything for the water issue and its level did not change if you looked at the level changes..
Cody nice job! I just got a load of bad fuel but I don't know why it's bad other than loss of power. On your video, I think the only thing I would criticize is that you added a LOT more alcohol to your jars than would ever get added to a Car or Truck as tank unless you put a case of HEET in there :) If you put a 12 oz bottle of HEET into 15 gallons of Gas , that mixture would end up being less than 1 percent ( 0.63%) alcohol into the gas - which is Not Much. It would be interesting to see if it works if you put only 2 Tbsp HEET into a jar of 1 oz water and 15 oz gasoline which migh represent a real world situation more accurately. Also wondering if that fuel was E10 regular or E0. After watching this Im thinking of getting a siphon to the bottom of the tank and sucking out a couple quarts to see whats really in there. And if its water - keep going! - Thanks, Sandy.
thanks the alcohol really works I put some in my gas tank cause my car wouldn't start was going to drop the tank and remove the gas but I tried this before I removed the tank and it's works thanks
Glad I found your video as I was cutting grass then added more gas in tank and now won’t start. Gas can was in shed but we had a really bad storm come through 2 days ago. How much of the Rubbing Alcohol do I add? Push mower
The point isn't that these things remove the water from the tank but that they will mix with the water(unlike gas) and make the water combust, so the engine will burn it.
@@SmooveBee1 It can, but too much and too long, it can also add to carbon build up because it reduces the efficiency of combustion of the gas itself, and when gas doesn't combust fully and efficiently, one of the byproducts left behind is carbon.
Alcohol and water interlock when mixed together. They share electrons. If you take 10 gallons or water and 10 gallons of alcohol you will not have 20 gallons of combined volume, it will be more like 17 and a half gallons of combined volume. When you put alcohol or methanol in your gas tank the water attaches to the alcohol and allows it to get passed the gas filter. One of the reasons you car won't start is because water gets to the filter and is stopped by the filter and therefore blocks gas from passing through. Whenever we took vehicles to inspection we always put in a bottle of dry gas as it would make the engine run hotter and get through emissions. Before computers got so complicated running dry gas would sort of fool the carburetor into a leaner mixture but today's cars see the extra oxygen from the alcohol and enrichen the mixture. My dad worked for Exxon and would bring home what they called slops. Left over stuff from tests. Sometimes he would get small amounts of alcohol and if I was low on money I would put that in my tank in my 63 Plymouth Savoy. It ran great on the highway but needed bigger jets if you wanted more power. To this day we still put dry gas in the tank before we go to inspection. Good stuff. Happy Motoring.
On my big diesels, I use 60/40 blend with 1 pint of 70% rubbing alcohol p/50gal. as pretreat in -0 weather. Good for -30+. For -40 weather, I also mix in up to 3% unleaded gas MAX (gas is hard on diesel engines), or you can also go with straight No.1 diesel fuel if available and and 1gal. unleaded per 100 gal. of #1 fuel. Never froze up in 35 years.
Thanks for the video. I have two questions. Would you do one for diesel? More and more manufactures are offering clean burning diesel engines to their inventory. I have purchased many additives and each one has its own fuel-to-additive recommendation. Do you think the results would have been better/worse if you would have used each manufactures recommendation on ratio? Thanks again.
No - that's urban legend. Gas stations can actually be liable for damage and expense caused by water in their gas. No gas station who wants to stay in business would ever intentionally put water in their gas. Most actually check for water contamination and have their tanks replaced if there is any indication that water is somehow getting in. I was told this by a family member who owned a service station for many years.
The alcohol combines with water and does not separate. However, the water/alcohol mix does not combine with gasoline, so you engine is burning the water/alcohol mix (burns poorly) rather than pure water (which won't burn at all). Water in your gas is a bad thing no matter how you slice it.
I used heat for years on vehicles and marine system never failed me, car and boat motion will stur it up for you just need to stay moving and try to burn as much as you can
+Robb Mcdonald - Absolutely. The ISO-Heet is actually 100% Isopropyl alcohol until you open the container. It's extremely hygroscopic and begins to absorb water from the humidity in the air as soon as you pierce the foil seal. MDR Water-Zorb is a much better solution for removing water from gasoline.
My father told me this trick about alcohol when I was a teenager. Recently, I had water in my tank so I bought 99.9% alcohol online having the same though than you Robb. I waited that the tank be pretty much empty and poor half a quart of alcohol in it then I drove around swirling and breaking dry to mix the gas with alcohol. I did this process twice. It reduced pretty well the problem. I still got some problem few days after but after a week, I did not feel any problem.
Wow this is great. I just had my carb rebuilt and come to find out my car kept dieing because it had water in the carb. I will definitely get some rubbing alcohol for my tank. thanks alot for this video...greatly appreciated ! I'll try to find the highest percentage I can.
Like for real! This is what TH-cam should be. This dude is smart as fuck and knows how to clearly demonstrate and explain with out any Filler or bullshit. 👍🏼
I have not confirmed this information like I prefer to; however it's one example. Everyone is upset Trump exited the Paris Accord (sp?). Independent auditors indicate many members were not truthful or provided incomplete information on their "positive" impact on Climate Change (Fraud). It's also been widely reported since the USA exited, many other countries, national and local entities, have promised to implement and have initiated their own contributions to combat climate change. If you read international newspapers, this week all the major countries scheduling the phase out of ICE is a major step, and without a blank check from President Trump.
thanks for the video. I got gas yesterday and my truck Barry runs now. I didn't know about alcohol but I used heet iso. hasn't cleared up yet. but I plan on pulling my filter and looking at the fuel to see.
Thanks Cody! Good sensible demo on additives that supposedly remove water from fuel. None the less, I think nothing does that. The fuel system has to be purged a piece at a time I believe to really clear it out.
What you need is something that will keep that water in suspension for days at a time, because all of those things are going to settle in just an hour's time. What you want is something that, once the water has settled, mixes with it so that it burns on a cold start after being left over night.
Thats what I was thinking. Maybe like heet in a gel form that'll sink to the bottom. Or hand sanitizer? Lol. Its nothing but gellified alcohol. Have you found anything like this?
Great demonstion. Tanks are vented whereas you are reviewing in closed containers. I'm wondering if the various products also work by evaporating some of the water while breaking down for firing. Not only venting but the introduction of oxygen. Also, I'm wondering if acetone would be effective in water removal as well.
Keeping your tank full would also keep your vehicle parked at a gas station. :-D Plastc fuel tanks are less susceptible to condensation than steel tanks. .
Keeping it nearly-full will do the same thing; in a bit of irony, the ethanol that is in todays gas (10% to 15%) will keep your tank dry; that is why HEET is pretty much useless these days; your gas come with a drier already in it; here's the rub: your modern car-tank has air-vent valves (spring-loaded ball valves) that release extremes of pressure or vaccum - allowing moisture-laden air into your tank; it may do this once a day if it is out in the Sun (heat) or it may do this once or twice a year, assuming your car is garaged and does not see temperature-swings; the gas can stay "dry" or "un-saturated" for a long long time; Your lawnmower may not be so lucky; but, a rear-engine Snapper is fairly smart design: you can install a valve and turn OFF gas to the carb, and turn the vent screw "OFF" on the gas-cap, and gas can keep in a plastic Snapper tank for months or years; buy ethanol-free of course for anything that may sit for long spells; but ethanol-gas, if used regularly, really isn't that much of a problem - it will stay dry; once it gets wet, it 'saturates' and moisture precipitates out as water - and now the poison begins(!). Store gas un-vented if you can and keep it out of temperature swings (the Sun); Check out JUSTRITE or EAGLE safety cans for properly storing gasoline long-term. Expensive but un-vented and keep gas away from the humidity of atmosphere;
SmooveBee1 This is the most pertinent comment I've seen on here. So basically, this is a problem from before ethanol was added to gasoline. Water would just settle, and alcohol was added to help break it up. Ethanol does this for you, and all these products are now more unnecessary. Unless you are using ethanol-free, in which case you need to manually drain or go back to the alcohol solution, or use ethanol gas from time to time in your tank.
I've heard a guy put rubbing alcohol in ram common rail Cummins. his worker told me about it and said it sounded like older Cummins knocking or detonating
Three weeks ago I drove to Oxapampa, Peru. I was there for one week and before leaving I filled up my 91 Jeep Cherokee at a gas station. While I was there filling up the Jeep a tanker was delivering fuel. I had a gut feeling I shouldn't be filling up the Jeep while they were filling the tanks. My Jeep runs on Propane and Gasoline. I drove on propane until it was empty and switched to gasoline. After a few minutes the Jeep started chugging and sputtering. Then it dawned on me, when they were filling the gas tanks at the gas station it forces standing water from the tank into the pump and then into your car. We don't have Auto Zones or O'Reilly's here in Lima so finding fuel injection cleaner is difficult. But thanks to the pandemic I have a ton of alcohol. I will try that.
Found out stabil has a shelf life (2yrs) but there is no mfg date on the product. Called stabil ,asked how do I find out how long it’s been on the shelf@retailer. Their response. Good question
I have water in my tank! Put ten bucks and the gas station and my check engine light came on and it read I have fuel in my tank. Purchased Heet added it to my tank and topped it off. This was yesterday, my check engine light is still on.... how long does it take to work??
The question I have is, since we are running ethanol fuel in our cars that can have as much as 10% alcohol, why are we adding more alcohol to the fuel?
Nice video, but u didn’t try to get sample from the bottom of the jar and burn it, it will not burn because it still water and the increase of the separation level that more water caused by such products since these products design from simple alcohol and it’s hydroscopic, meaning it will attracts more humidity (water) from the air, u should do test MotorPower care fuel system cleaner and u will be surprised by the results...
I had water in my fuel tank. So much in fact I had to use 2 gals of 95% alcohol that we use at the hospital in the 35 gallons. I also had to change the fuel filter 3 times as the water would get caught in the filter and when I tried to accelerate it would cover the filter and only allow about 1/3 of the filter to let gas through. It was in winter and the gas station where I purchased the fuel had a cracked underground storage tank.
Those little beads are indication that the product did not work. Alchohol is miscible in both water and gasoline, if you had added more alchohol there would be no more separation with or without time. (I wouldn't use less than 92% alshohol) . Acetone would work best but could damage plastic or rubber so wouldn't be recommended. You had a lot of water there to deal with, more than most folks would have accidentally in their tanks by proportion. I guarantee none of those jars would run a car or mower when you were through with this test. edit: I hope this comment becomes the top rated one, because I am 100% sure I am correct and folks need to know the facts.
Challenge accepted !! Just happens to be i still had the jars with the experiment sitting on the top of my shelf and im 100% positive the one with heet and the Alcohol will run a mower or car. So since i was doing another video a little different on products that remove water i will also add your theory to it wont work to the mix !! Stay tuned we will Fact or Fiction it :)
OK Car Guy, but I'm an ex-meth cook, I should know. LOL. be honest now. Thanks for being a stand up sport.. I'm not saying those products don't work, just you had a lot of water there.
i have to agree with david, you gotta test the fuel in an engine. and i too can offer the same backround as david as well as adding i'm a master harley-davidson mechanic of 23yrs, and iso-heet being IPA but a much higher percent than your 70% is gonna work better but better is 90% IPA-sold right next to 70%- so with a drying agent like the packets in vitamins or dried epsom salt, you could remove the water in the 90 or 70 IPA to close to 100%, even better, but i think the ISO HEET IS above 90% and its not way more expensive than 90% BUT you could just use that drying agent in the gas to remove the water, of course then you'd have to drain the fuel tank and defeats the purpose of this exercise. so, i would use methanol, its the HEET in the yellow bottle that doesnt say ISO on it, it's the old HEET so i'm guessing it won't be available everywhere, so online purchase of HEET or methanol. and another thought is to run a test using denatured alcohol which is ethanol(everclear/moonshine) usually mixed with methanol but check because some mix with something else or other stuff but that would basically be our E10 gasoline from the pump with old HEET in it, of course i really have no idea what your learning by visually looking at the fuel and seperation of liquids, just like david says you need to test it in an engine however i will add that it should not be a car or large engine, i would say a two stroke weed eater or basic lawnmower would be a good test bed as the smaller motors react to small amounts of water in noticable ways, diesels to do but i've no experience with em to know what their reactions would be I place my vote for david livings comment as top rated, lol dont know how that deal works so heres an air vote
Alcohol isn't miscible in gasoline. A major issue using "product" is, the end mixture passes through the combustion process, that's good but alcohol water mix doesn't have the same lubricating properties as gas. The fuel/ air ratio is changed. Much better to remove the water alc mix and have ethanol free gas again :-). The E10/E15 has no environmental justification. It's just a giveaway to corn farmers. BS from both Rep and Dem. That's the lobbyist system at work. Measure the amount of each liquid and the volume of "gas" will be less and the volume of water and product will be more than you put in.
Hey dude a lawn mower? Not much to drain a mower. Just remove the hose clamp and drain it. If you can't get it all add a little gas and let it drain some more, or remove the tank and clean it of other impurities at the same time. It is better to never burn any water if possible. With a boat I try to estimate how much gas I will use for the trip and only mix that amount. I carry an extra gas can and some 2cycle oil to mix up if I run out of gas. If I have any mixed gas left over from the trip and won't be going out again for a while I drain the tank and pour it on an ant bed or mix a little to it for my weed eater. Some places have ethanol free gas and that is the best route as it will not condensate water or gum up like the ethanol crap. Using a plastic gas tank is better as it does not condensate water like metal.
Frank Gutowski ethanol attracts and pulls moisture from the air. Over time. I consider ethanol fuel to be 'bad after just a few weeks. Some Marina's sell ethanol free or non ethanol E0 for boats, because ethanol attracts moisture.
Frank Gutowski ethenal does attract and bond itself to water.... To remover ethenol from gasoline you pour in water shake it well to mix the water around to bond it to the ethenol then let it settle to the bottom of the container for 12 hour and drain it off... So yes ethenol does attract water and binds to it which causes problems in an engine But no it does not "magically create" water in the tank which is what I'm assuming you are swinging at in your comments
There is a product that will mix completely but don't remember name. Worked at a gas station when I was a kid and had test tubes with heet in the yellow bottom (one you used they didn't have back then) and this other product. Heet was and still is worthless, the other product mixed completely. I am looking to try to find name which is why I happened on this video.
Great video Cody. Any thoughts on adding the Heet or Alcohol to a 4-stroke Yamaha JetSki? I believe I have some rain water that got in the tank (kids left gas cap off after refilling it).
Use acetone, works better than all that other stuff. Just don't add too much acetone to gas ratio. One gallon acetone for 5 gallons of gas should be perfect. I'm not going to guarantee anything here, but for what I found for myself is the best. Look it up.
There is no chemical reaction here. All you are seeing is water separation, in all three, and all three do it equally well, including the Seafoam. And you do NOT want to burn it in your engine, but drain it at the fuel filter.
Isopropyl works the best and you can use it in diesels and it will melt ice in your fuel line. the cheaper methanol anti freeze is good for gas but not for diesels
If it's an outboard, the tank is 5 gallons and can be carried, just dump it at a gas station where they can deal with it and not harm the environment . Pour a bottle of alcohol in it and wash it around and dump it again. Solved!
Typically, Methyl Hydrate (similar to Isopropyl Alcohol) is more potent/stronger. This has been used in gas tanks for almost a 100 years to solve water condensate problems. MH can be bought at any paint or hardware store at a reasonable cost. During winter months, add about 1/4 to 1/2 a cup per tank of gas at each or alternate fill up! Cheers
I've been reading a lot about engineered fuels lately for winter storage, which is likely the reason you popped up on my feed. Ethanol and water are mixable. So much so that if you take an equal volume of each, the final volume is less than the two added. The reason is molecular packing together is tighter than either. Drug store rubbing alcohol is not 100% ethanol. The denaturing additives to keep us from a cheap high are the culprit. My job at K Mart auto department made me familiar with Heet. It's still methanol mostly, isn't it? Another alcohol. You're familiar. Cheers!
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Cody the Car Guy when u pour the alcohol in the tank do u have to drive the vehicle rite away or u can wait till u drive it that day?
i'm not cody the car guy but all you have to do is just start the car and let it run.. i have a 2000 honda that had no gas cap and i did not know and all i did was put 91% alcohol in the tank and start it up skipped bad for a little bit but it runs fine now o and new gas cap lol
Cody can use the iso red heet in my 2021 hyundia sonata n line ?
Excellent video. Clear. To the point. Many thanks.
Thanks, just saved me going to a mechanic... I am now boycotting 7-11
Heet has 99.9 alcohol in it. If using rubbing alcohol, you must find 90% or better . This video was really helpful. Thank you
WORKED AFTER LETTING MY TRUCK SIT FOR TWO YEARS! THANK YOU SO MUCH! It is sitting running to kill all what's in the tank still. Keep rocking it with breaks forward and backward every 15 min... still suckin.... thanks so much.
Seafoam contains water. The ""other" percentage in isopropyl alcohol is water. Yellow label Heet is methyl alcohol plus solvents with a higher flashpoint and some light oils. Red label (Iso) Heet has some isopropyl alcohol plus other stuff intended to clean fuel injectors.
You did a really nice job with this instruction! Thanks for taking the time to do this...it definitely helped me!
Water does collect in gas tanks and fuel lines from moisture in the air, or from the storage tanks at gas stations. Today, however, vehicles in most parts of the country burn gasoline that includes up to 10 percent ethanol, a form of alcohol that performs the same water-absorbing chores as brand-name gasoline antifreezes. Products like gas-line antifreeze Heet - which are available at automotive stores - contain ingredients such as isopropyl or methyl alcohol (methanol), but they function in the same way as the ethanol that is already in your fuel.
Gas-line antifreeze isn't expensive and probably can't hurt, but if you have 15 gallons of fuel in your vehicle and 10 percent of it is ethanol, your tank already has 1.5 gallons of alcohol in it. Adding another 12 to 16 ounces of alcohol is not going to provide any additional protection against freezing.
It's more about dispersing water that is in the fuel, and for that, you want as pure as Isopropyl alcohol as you can get (such as Heet), or something like Star Tron that has enzymes to react with the water.
Cody, I congratulate you on this video. You have shown something that actually has value and explains the problem correctly. There are lots of videos on TH-cam by guys who claim to be certified mechanics and they are lost. My only suggestion is that you should have included Dry Gas, and then simply said: "Of course, you don'y have to use any of these if you use E10."
Lived in Alaska for years. Pubic service message was played from September to April on the local channels was great info for using Heet ( isopropyl alcohol). The message was simple, Always add in winter when gas tank in low of fuel. This way the Heet or alcohol will get to the water. Some of us put it in before we drove to get more gas to help it mix with the water that was created due to condensation caused by parking your cars in a heated garage. Heated garages are common as most homes do not have basements and furnace were installed in the garage. Nice warm garage! Taking your car from subzero weather to a balmy 70 degrees twice a day gave you condensation in your tank. Many people who did not pay attention to P.S. message had to drop the tank to remove gallons of water due to the amount built up in tanks. Not until now did I connect the dots to heet and 100%isopropyl alcohol being equal. Thanks.
I know an older video, but I can attest to this working. I used the 90% version of rubbing alcohol in a boat I had a few years ago that had a ton of water in the tank. Pulling the tank would have been a focking nightmare.... After a couple fill-ups it was good to go. It hiccup'd and burped a few times throughout the process, but eventually got to where it ran like a champ. All that being said, the boat had an old chevy 300ci straight six in it and I think you could have ran whiskey, rocket fuel, piss, hot lava...just about anything through that bastage and it wouldn't hurt it. Thanks for posting this. I'm sure it'll help a lot of peeps.
In 1992 l had a 73 pickup with 222,000 to 226,000Chevy or Ford (,thinking ford) got for 200.00 either way. It had a straight 6 in it .with 3 on the tree, that sat for over 6 yrs. Took a battery to it ,checked the fluids .I tell u this started 2nd try.. ran amazing.. i learned body work lol became awsome at it . the truck fell apart before that engine would ever break down. The old man once said years later he should of charged me more lol first that beast. I bet that engine would still running today as long as it was treated right. One of the best things ever made on this planet for sure.
Seafoam is a " FUEL" system cleaning /lubricating product, meant more as a barrier to keep moisture away, and from settling, causing rust and corrosion.
I know many Ocean Mariners who swear by it. They use it to keep boat motors " PICKLED" during off seasons while in storage.
BRILLIANT! Very well done. The Chemistry teacher gives you an A+.
Thanks for this video. I know nothing really will cause water to suspend in gasoline for long but as you say the the two products on the left just might get the water to move through the system. Thanks again for taking the time to do a real honest presentation.
I've been using red HEET for years with the gas I burn in my Suzuki 2 stroke DT100 and found it does a great job removing any water that builds up in the tank. I pore some in the tank before I fuel up everytime. When I don't use it the engine can sputter and even stall out. Sometimes it won't even turnover. Holding the tank to sunlight I have even seen the water in the tank. If the gas is fresh that's not a problem but if you don't use the boat for a few days, get some rain and humidity you'll find water in the tank. With red HEET I have no problems leaving the tanks full for weeks.
must say this was one of the best simple demo's I have seen. Great job
Here's a question is it better to add the heat after you fill your tank or when you have less gas in the tank? To me logic would dictate that less gas to the mixture would be better.
What you refer to as "breaking down" the water is actually emulsifying the mixture. The products don't "remove" water, as you've also intimated. Unfortunately removing the water is the best fix and, for that, depending on the amount of water one has, involves work (dropping the tank, etc.). Water through a diesel engine, for example, is never good for the engine and could be very bad.
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You are correct ISP Doesn't remove the water it attaches to the water modules and makes the water combustible enough to be burned through the engine !
(I already said this) Why not open the fuel line before the engine and run the pump by itself a little. Since the water is at the bottom of the tank, the water should come out first. Make sure not to run the pump when the tank is empty.
heet comes in 2 types but it does work it also keeps your fuel lines from freezing in alaska
Why not remove the tank and have a drain spigot installed at the normal low point(s)? Then after the water should be settled to the bottom the operator may drain the water off and shut the spigot. This is a procedure sometimes used in aircraft during the pre-flight check. (at least on some of the aircraft).
Molded plastic autotomotive gas tanks. Multiple low spots.
I worked on marine engines, an FYI use at your own peril, especially in a 2 stroke engine. Doing this, if you notice it does not evaporate the water, basically causes it to bond in with the fuel. What happens it causes a steaming effect and burns through the engine and at the same time what we found removes the oil that is meant to be a lubricant and caused engine failures. Did make a lot of money on engine replacement and rebuilds though.
Thanks. I will def pass on this method
Ethanol mixes with water vapor in gas tank and forms a jelly that sinks to the bottom. Then when you start your lawnmower or classic car it gets sucked into the carburetor or fuel injectors.Fix:Use quality fuel stabilizer like Stabil. But gas will still turn to jelly after a year, maybe 2 years. Gotta run that mower/car once every 2 months for an hour or more. After a year add more fresh gas and stabilizer.
just wanna add this thought.. when u read the directions for the additives you add to gas, it says to add before fueling, this is so when you pump the gas, the gas falling into the tank will mix and slush the gas around therfore getting the mixing action he uses with the jars, you wouldnt really need to drive eratically to get it to mix, sure driving eratically would problably help, but you would do that with minimal gas in the tank, so theres room for slushing around.. but pouring in before fuel up is the key to mixing it.
Just went through all this with my neighbor's boat, nothing is worse for 2 cycle engine as ethanol fuel. I have owned and worked on marine engines all my life, I once worked in a marine outboard engine shop as a part timer. I owned a shop which sold outboard motors and boats. We always told our clients to use only ethanol free gas in their engines.
My neighbor came to me and said his engine would not start. It was a little 40HP Mercury 2 stroke. After checking the ignition system was working, I knew then the problem was with the fuel and carburetor. Sure enough, the float bowl was full of water. I remove the carburetor, cleaned it check it thoroughly. I ask my neighbor if he was using gas from pumps with ethanol, he said I get what ever is at my local stations. Yes, it had ethanol in it. I got a clean tank, new hose and hooked up the engine. It started and ran fantastic.
Ethanol or any alcohol is hygroscopic, meaning it attracts water. Where we live is very humid all summer, so when the air (atmosphere) is drawn into the fuel tank the moisture in the air condenses on the walls of the tank. It then travels to the bottom of the tank and is picked up by the fuel line. This will not happen to fuel that is ethanol free. The new engines can use 10% ethanol gas but boats are not used on a daily basis. My other neighbor has a party barge with a 150 Mercury He has spent a fortune on repairs only to have the same problems. I have told him time and time again to have the carburetor rebuilt and clean out his tanks. Now his badge has been setting for 2 years. When storing your boat for the winter use a gas stabilizer. Now he is going to have a real problem.
I’m in Alaska and our jeep froze up about a week ago. We have it thawed out and the battery holding charge but no fire. This video just saved me from buying sea foam for this. Lol. Thanks especially since Covid, I think I have a good stock of alcohol. Thank you. I know this is an older video but thats the great thing about youtube.
I believe seafoam may have some uses but they shouldn't put remove water from fuel on the can if it's not good at that, sure it has a little alcohol in it but it makes no sense to use it for this purpose.
Quite frankly it makes a very bad impression.
I washed my air filter a year ago and didn't let it dry all the way. And could barely go down the street and uphill. A week ago i put beryman 12 chemtol and it cleared the hesitation. I think I'll just put the seafoam. But am thinking about 99% alcohol also for a good measure! Thank you very much
Might I suggest redoing this with water with food coloring added.... would be a lot easier to see.
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there was aready a vid on tik tok about a occ bike but the point is that they found out food colorimg did not get along
Actually.... yeah, shake it up. I believe most instructions say to add to tank and then add gas. By doing so, you are stirring quite well; especially in an empty tank.
An empty tank wouldn't have water in it anyway.
I really appreciate how he chose to use a separate stir rod for every container
Thanks big time, I had some isopropyl alchahol from another project and it worked like a charm. I siphoned 2 thirds of the gas out of my motorcycle gas tank and put some isopropyl in there, pretty soon misfiring went away and ran the tank dry before putting fresh fuel in. Great tip to know!
The whole idea of the additives is to turn the water into a burnable liquid. So you get rid of the water by using it. Doesn't turn it into gas but makes it burnable.
I have a 2005 vehicle with fuel injection and has 18 gallon gas tank. I was told to put up to 4 bottles in my tank after a gas station was found to have a leak that allowed water in it. So how much iso heet is too much. The 4 bottles of heet worked btw.
was it four bottles at one time?
Keep in mind why rubbing alcohol works even when it's 30% water itself. Water and gas don't mix. That's why water creates problems in your tank. You engine is getting one or the other and runs badly. But alcohol will bond to both, causing them to mix and carrying them to your engine as a mix, where it will burn in your engine. It's like the ethanol (an alcohol) that is often sold with gas.
When I lived in drizzly Seattle, I often had problems with water condensation in my fuel tank. Occasionally putting a small bottle of rubbing alcohol in the tank would solve that problem. As he points out, it's cheap and it works.
Michael i have heard that when cleaning a small gas tank you can use denatured alcohol to displace the little water thats left after de-rusting with your favorite product and cutting it with baking soda, will isopropyl alcohol work also or is denatured stronger?? thank you for your time.
I wish I saw this a couple days ago, but atleast I found it now to truly understand how this works. Alright now I just have to catch a bus to go grab all these things lol, thank you for the video brotha!
Despite the 70% isopropyl used, this was a great demonstration. Thank you for the time and the visuals. 👍
The Chemistry is the thing to keep in mind. If you measured the level of the water in each jar, you would see the level rises in the alcohol and Heet as their ingrediants combine to the water molecules to make their mass greater and so will be at a higher level. The Isopropyl and Methanol of the alcohol and Heet show this and will actually ignite carrying the water with it in combustion (maybe not the greatest ignition though). SeaFoam states on its label that it is insoluble with water so obviously it is not going to do anything for the water issue and its level did not change if you looked at the level changes..
Cody nice job! I just got a load of bad fuel but I don't know why it's bad other than loss of power. On your video, I think the only thing I would criticize is that you added a LOT more alcohol to your jars than would ever get added to a Car or Truck as tank unless you put a case of HEET in there :) If you put a 12 oz bottle of HEET into 15 gallons of Gas , that mixture would end up being less than 1 percent ( 0.63%) alcohol into the gas - which is Not Much. It would be interesting to see if it works if you put only 2 Tbsp HEET into a jar of 1 oz water and 15 oz gasoline which migh represent a real world situation more accurately. Also wondering if that fuel was E10 regular or E0. After watching this Im thinking of getting a siphon to the bottom of the tank and sucking out a couple quarts to see whats really in there. And if its water - keep going! - Thanks, Sandy.
Nice presentation,however,how much alcohol should be used in a tank of gas??? Thanks for the video.
I am wondering also. Is99% okay to use?
thanks the alcohol really works I put some in my gas tank cause my car wouldn't start was going to drop the tank and remove the gas but I tried this before I removed the tank and it's works thanks
Thank you so much this happen to me yesterday, Being on a limited income and no men in my family i must give this a try
Thank God for men like you!!!
Did it work? I want to do it with my pit bike because water got in the carb from hard rain.
I use Denatured Alcohol. $10 for a gallon at Walmart. Isopropyl has water in it.
Robert Ford
they also sell isoheet
Isopropyl is alcohol, no water. Rubbing alcohol has water in it, the percentage is right on the label.
You just added more water with70 percent alchy. Use 100 percent
Glad I found your video as I was cutting grass then added more gas in tank and now won’t start. Gas can was in shed but we had a really bad storm come through 2 days ago. How much of the Rubbing Alcohol do I add? Push mower
I just put rubbing alcohol in my gas and my car is running a lot better I remembered I had some in my car thank you so much
In your test did you use pure gasoline or ethanol blended?
The point isn't that these things remove the water from the tank but that they will mix with the water(unlike gas) and make the water combust, so the engine will burn it.
always wondered. Thanks for that info
The water doesn't 'combust' it just becomes steam; steam is a good thing inside of a combustion engine though, it cleans a bit.
@@SmooveBee1 It can, but too much and too long, it can also add to carbon build up because it reduces the efficiency of combustion of the gas itself, and when gas doesn't combust fully and efficiently, one of the byproducts left behind is carbon.
Acetone works the best 40 to 1 and it brings up the octane to burn properly
91% rubbing alcohol work best, we used it in our shops!
Also cleans the fuel system too .
How much?y tank was 3/4 full
why not higher like 99,9 or 99,6%
Alcohol and water interlock when mixed together. They share electrons. If you take 10 gallons or water and 10 gallons of alcohol you will not have 20 gallons of combined volume, it will be more like 17 and a half gallons of combined volume. When you put alcohol or methanol in your gas tank the water attaches to the alcohol and allows it to get passed the gas filter. One of the reasons you car won't start is because water gets to the filter and is stopped by the filter and therefore blocks gas from passing through.
Whenever we took vehicles to inspection we always put in a bottle of dry gas as it would make the engine run hotter and get through emissions. Before computers got so complicated running dry gas would sort of fool the carburetor into a leaner mixture but today's cars see the extra oxygen from the alcohol and enrichen the mixture.
My dad worked for Exxon and would bring home what they called slops. Left over stuff from tests. Sometimes he would get small amounts of alcohol and if I was low on money I would put that in my tank in my 63 Plymouth Savoy. It ran great on the highway but needed bigger jets if you wanted more power.
To this day we still put dry gas in the tank before we go to inspection. Good stuff. Happy Motoring.
On my big diesels, I use 60/40 blend with 1 pint of 70% rubbing alcohol p/50gal. as pretreat in -0 weather. Good for -30+. For -40 weather, I also mix in up to 3% unleaded gas MAX (gas is hard on diesel engines), or you can also go with straight No.1 diesel fuel if available and and 1gal. unleaded per 100 gal. of #1 fuel. Never froze up in 35 years.
Thanks for the video.
I have two questions.
Would you do one for diesel? More and more manufactures are offering clean burning diesel engines to their inventory.
I have purchased many additives and each one has its own fuel-to-additive recommendation. Do you think the results would have been better/worse if you would have used each manufactures recommendation on ratio?
Thanks again.
Is it true that during the oil crisis, some gas stations "watered-down" the fuel so they could make more profit?
No - that's urban legend. Gas stations can actually be liable for damage and expense caused by water in their gas. No gas station who wants to stay in business would ever intentionally put water in their gas. Most actually check for water contamination and have their tanks replaced if there is any indication that water is somehow getting in. I was told this by a family member who owned a service station for many years.
I hope the Governor of California doesn’t see this - he will come after you for your vintage gas can 😆
Lol
I long for the bygone days when a match could set Lake Erie on fire.
The alcohol combines with water and does not separate. However, the water/alcohol mix does not combine with gasoline, so you engine is burning the water/alcohol mix (burns poorly) rather than pure water (which won't burn at all). Water in your gas is a bad thing no matter how you slice it.
I used heat for years on vehicles and marine system never failed me, car and boat motion will stur it up for you just need to stay moving and try to burn as much as you can
should be 100% alcohol.......70% is alcohol &30% water. ie
+Robb Mcdonald - Absolutely. The ISO-Heet is actually 100% Isopropyl alcohol until you open the container. It's extremely hygroscopic and begins to absorb water from the humidity in the air as soon as you pierce the foil seal. MDR Water-Zorb is a much better solution for removing water from gasoline.
My father told me this trick about alcohol when I was a teenager. Recently, I had water in my tank so I bought 99.9% alcohol online having the same though than you Robb. I waited that the tank be pretty much empty and poor half a quart of alcohol in it then I drove around swirling and breaking dry to mix the gas with alcohol. I did this process twice. It reduced pretty well the problem. I still got some problem few days after but after a week, I did not feel any problem.
Robb Mcdonald where do you get 100%?
Andy H where do you get water zorb?
a lab supply shop
Wow this is great. I just had my carb rebuilt and come to find out my car kept dieing because it had water in the carb. I will definitely get some rubbing alcohol for my tank. thanks alot for this video...greatly appreciated ! I'll try to find the highest percentage I can.
Like for real! This is what TH-cam should be. This dude is smart as fuck and knows how to clearly demonstrate and explain with out any Filler or bullshit. 👍🏼
70% isopropyl alcohol has 30% water - you should have used the 99% pure stuff, not adding a lot more water with the 70%
The 99% pure stuff is basically what ISO-Heet is.
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thanks for the video. I got gas yesterday and my truck Barry runs now. I didn't know about alcohol but I used heet iso. hasn't cleared up yet. but I plan on pulling my filter and looking at the fuel to see.
Thanks Cody! Good sensible demo on additives that supposedly remove water from
fuel. None the less, I think nothing does that. The fuel system has to be purged a piece at a time I believe to really clear it out.
What you need is something that will keep that water in suspension for days at a time, because all of those things are going to settle in just an hour's time. What you want is something that, once the water has settled, mixes with it so that it burns on a cold start after being left over night.
Thats what I was thinking. Maybe like heet in a gel form that'll sink to the bottom. Or hand sanitizer? Lol. Its nothing but gellified alcohol. Have you found anything like this?
Great demonstion. Tanks are vented whereas you are reviewing in closed containers. I'm wondering if the various products also work by evaporating some of the water while breaking down for firing. Not only venting but the introduction of oxygen.
Also, I'm wondering if acetone would be effective in water removal as well.
Could you have take some of the mixture of the bottom (using a pipette) and see how well they burn on their own?
There used to be a Shell product in Norway called condensate remover(Kondens Fjaerner) and it was Propanol.
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Keeping your gas tank full will reduce condensation (the usual source of water in gas tanks).
Keeping your tank full would also keep your vehicle parked at a gas station. :-D
Plastc fuel tanks are less susceptible to condensation than steel tanks. .
Keeping it nearly-full will do the same thing; in a bit of irony, the ethanol that is in todays gas (10% to 15%) will keep your tank dry; that is why HEET is pretty much useless these days; your gas come with a drier already in it; here's the rub: your modern car-tank has air-vent valves (spring-loaded ball valves) that release extremes of pressure or vaccum - allowing moisture-laden air into your tank; it may do this once a day if it is out in the Sun (heat) or it may do this once or twice a year, assuming your car is garaged and does not see temperature-swings; the gas can stay "dry" or "un-saturated" for a long long time; Your lawnmower may not be so lucky; but, a rear-engine Snapper is fairly smart design: you can install a valve and turn OFF gas to the carb, and turn the vent screw "OFF" on the gas-cap, and gas can keep in a plastic Snapper tank for months or years; buy ethanol-free of course for anything that may sit for long spells; but ethanol-gas, if used regularly, really isn't that much of a problem - it will stay dry; once it gets wet, it 'saturates' and moisture precipitates out as water - and now the poison begins(!). Store gas un-vented if you can and keep it out of temperature swings (the Sun); Check out JUSTRITE or EAGLE safety cans for properly storing gasoline long-term. Expensive but un-vented and keep gas away from the humidity of atmosphere;
SmooveBee1 This is the most pertinent comment I've seen on here. So basically, this is a problem from before ethanol was added to gasoline. Water would just settle, and alcohol was added to help break it up. Ethanol does this for you, and all these products are now more unnecessary. Unless you are using ethanol-free, in which case you need to manually drain or go back to the alcohol solution, or use ethanol gas from time to time in your tank.
I've heard a guy put rubbing alcohol in ram common rail Cummins. his worker told me about it and said it sounded like older Cummins knocking or detonating
Thanks for this informative video, I really appreciate especially since I'm not mechanically inclined.
Probably should have used about a cap full only in each for a little more accuracy but it still answers my question. Thanks mate
Three weeks ago I drove to Oxapampa, Peru. I was there for one week and before leaving I filled up my 91 Jeep Cherokee at a gas station. While I was there filling up the Jeep a tanker was delivering fuel. I had a gut feeling I shouldn't be filling up the Jeep while they were filling the tanks. My Jeep runs on Propane and Gasoline. I drove on propane until it was empty and switched to gasoline. After a few minutes the Jeep started chugging and sputtering. Then it dawned on me, when they were filling the gas tanks at the gas station it forces standing water from the tank into the pump and then into your car. We don't have Auto Zones or O'Reilly's here in Lima so finding fuel injection cleaner is difficult. But thanks to the pandemic I have a ton of alcohol. I will try that.
wonder why they don't put a drain valve on the bottom of the tank?
I think it's because it might make it easy for thieves to steal your fuel. Also, if the drain valve fails, it would create a dangerous situation.
Thats what we do in airplanes. Sump drains.
Found out stabil has a shelf life (2yrs) but there is no mfg date on the product. Called stabil ,asked how do I find out how long it’s been on the shelf@retailer. Their response. Good question
Great video Cody. One question......how much should I put in my car's tank - it has around 10 gallons in?
I have water in my tank! Put ten bucks and the gas station and my check engine light came on and it read I have fuel in my tank. Purchased Heet added it to my tank and topped it off. This was yesterday, my check engine light is still on.... how long does it take to work??
The question I have is, since we are running ethanol fuel in our cars that can have as much as 10% alcohol, why are we adding more alcohol to the fuel?
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How much of the bottle should be used?
Nice video, but u didn’t try to get sample from the bottom of the jar and burn it, it will not burn because it still water and the increase of the separation level that more water caused by such products since these products design from simple alcohol and it’s hydroscopic, meaning it will attracts more humidity (water) from the air, u should do test MotorPower care fuel system cleaner and u will be surprised by the results...
I had water in my fuel tank. So much in fact I had to use 2 gals of 95% alcohol that we use at the hospital in the 35 gallons. I also had to change the fuel filter 3 times as the water would get caught in the filter and when I tried to accelerate it would cover the filter and only allow about 1/3 of the filter to let gas through. It was in winter and the gas station where I purchased the fuel had a cracked underground storage tank.
Those little beads are indication that the product did not work. Alchohol is miscible in both water and gasoline, if you had added more alchohol there would be no more separation with or without time. (I wouldn't use less than 92% alshohol) . Acetone would work best but could damage plastic or rubber so wouldn't be recommended. You had a lot of water there to deal with, more than most folks would have accidentally in their tanks by proportion. I guarantee none of those jars would run a car or mower when you were through with this test. edit: I hope this comment becomes the top rated one, because I am 100% sure I am correct and folks need to know the facts.
Challenge accepted !! Just happens to be i still had the jars with the experiment sitting on the top of my shelf and im 100% positive the one with heet and the Alcohol will run a mower or car. So since i was doing another video a little different on products that remove water i will also add your theory to it wont work to the mix !! Stay tuned we will Fact or Fiction it :)
OK Car Guy, but I'm an ex-meth cook, I should know. LOL. be honest now. Thanks for being a stand up sport.. I'm not saying those products don't work, just you had a lot of water there.
i have to agree with david, you gotta test the fuel in an engine. and i too can offer the same backround as david as well as adding i'm a master harley-davidson mechanic of 23yrs, and iso-heet being IPA but a much higher percent than your 70% is gonna work better but better is 90% IPA-sold right next to 70%- so with a drying agent like the packets in vitamins or dried epsom salt, you could remove the water in the 90 or 70 IPA to close to 100%, even better, but i think the ISO HEET IS above 90% and its not way more expensive than 90% BUT you could just use that drying agent in the gas to remove the water, of course then you'd have to drain the fuel tank and defeats the purpose of this exercise.
so, i would use methanol, its the HEET in the yellow bottle that doesnt say ISO on it, it's the old HEET so i'm guessing it won't be available everywhere, so online purchase of HEET or methanol.
and another thought is to run a test using denatured alcohol which is ethanol(everclear/moonshine) usually mixed with methanol but check because some mix with something else or other stuff but that would basically be our E10 gasoline from the pump with old HEET in it, of course i really have no idea what your learning by visually looking at the fuel and seperation of liquids, just like david says you need to test it in an engine however i will add that it should not be a car or large engine, i would say a two stroke weed eater or basic lawnmower would be a good test bed as the smaller motors react to small amounts of water in noticable ways, diesels to do but i've no experience with em to know what their reactions would be
I place my vote for david livings comment as top rated, lol dont know how that deal works so heres an air vote
Alcohol isn't miscible in gasoline. A major issue using "product" is, the end mixture passes through the combustion process, that's good but alcohol water mix doesn't have the same lubricating properties as gas. The fuel/ air ratio is changed. Much better to remove the water alc mix and have ethanol free gas again :-). The E10/E15 has no environmental justification. It's just a giveaway to corn farmers. BS from both Rep and Dem. That's the lobbyist system at work. Measure the amount of each liquid and the volume of "gas" will be less and the volume of water and product will be more than you put in.
man the rubbing alcohol worked in my mower, thank you
Hey dude a lawn mower? Not much to drain a mower. Just remove the hose clamp and drain it. If you can't get it all add a little gas and let it drain some more, or remove the tank and clean it of other impurities at the same time. It is better to never burn any water if possible. With a boat I try to estimate how much gas I will use for the trip and only mix that amount. I carry an extra gas can and some 2cycle oil to mix up if I run out of gas. If I have any mixed gas left over from the trip and won't be going out again for a while I drain the tank and pour it on an ant bed or mix a little to it for my weed eater. Some places have ethanol free gas and that is the best route as it will not condensate water or gum up like the ethanol crap. Using a plastic gas tank is better as it does not condensate water like metal.
Frank Gutowski ethanol attracts and pulls moisture from the air. Over time. I consider ethanol fuel to be 'bad after just a few weeks. Some Marina's sell ethanol free or non ethanol E0 for boats, because ethanol attracts moisture.
Frank Gutowski will it burn inject
Frank Gutowski ethenal does attract and bond itself to water.... To remover ethenol from gasoline you pour in water shake it well to mix the water around to bond it to the ethenol then let it settle to the bottom of the container for 12 hour and drain it off...
So yes ethenol does attract water and binds to it which causes problems in an engine
But no it does not "magically create" water in the tank which is what I'm assuming you are swinging at in your comments
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There is a product that will mix completely but don't remember name. Worked at a gas station when I was a kid and had test tubes with heet in the yellow bottom (one you used they didn't have back then) and this other product. Heet was and still is worthless, the other product mixed completely. I am looking to try to find name which is why I happened on this video.
Great video Cody. Any thoughts on adding the Heet or Alcohol to a 4-stroke Yamaha JetSki? I believe I have some rain water that got in the tank (kids left gas cap off after refilling it).
The fuel system also as heat so to be more accurate perhaps you should microwave each concoction for at least a minute?
Excellent Video Cody! Very helpful information for this bad winter time in the Midwest!
Use acetone, works better than all that other stuff. Just don't add too much acetone to gas ratio. One gallon acetone for 5 gallons of gas should be perfect. I'm not going to guarantee anything here, but for what I found for myself is the best. Look it up.
THANK-YOU SO MUCH....YOUR DISPLAY WAS EASY TO UNDERSTAND.....
This is a great video! What happens if the gas in the car is a year old? Will this fix that problem, too?
There is no chemical reaction here. All you are seeing is water separation, in all three, and all three do it equally well, including the Seafoam. And you do NOT want to burn it in your engine, but drain it at the fuel filter.
Isopropyl works the best and you can use it in diesels and it will melt ice in your fuel line. the cheaper methanol anti freeze is good for gas but not for diesels
ive learn that reading the key ingredients in some of the products and google those, i found its cheaper to use the key ingredients instead
The heets only like $2 though?
I've always wondered what would work best, and now I know! thanks for the video!
this should work the same way in a Yamaha 115 outboard motor. Correct?
If it's an outboard, the tank is 5 gallons and can be carried, just dump it at a gas station where they can deal with it and not harm the environment . Pour a bottle of alcohol in it and wash it around and dump it again. Solved!
How much alcohol should I use for it to be affective
Typically, Methyl Hydrate (similar to Isopropyl Alcohol) is more potent/stronger. This has been used in gas tanks for almost a 100 years to solve water condensate problems.
MH can be bought at any paint or hardware store at a reasonable cost.
During winter months, add about 1/4 to 1/2 a cup per tank of gas at each or alternate fill up!
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Great video. 4 cans of heet got my f150 cleaned it up thanks
4 cans of which?
@@G-Money1 sorry. Containers of heet
Isopropyl alcohol will NOT get the Ethanol out of your gas. Ethanol will still harm you car but adding the isopropyl helps a lot.
I've been reading a lot about engineered fuels lately for winter storage, which is likely the reason you popped up on my feed.
Ethanol and water are mixable. So much so that if you take an equal volume of each, the final volume is less than the two added. The reason is molecular packing together is tighter than either. Drug store rubbing alcohol is not 100% ethanol. The denaturing additives to keep us from a cheap high are the culprit.
My job at K Mart auto department made me familiar with Heet. It's still methanol mostly, isn't it?
Another alcohol. You're familiar.
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Heet is 99% isopropanol.
I have used the Heat , It works well ! Never new there was a cheaper way man , Thanks!!
ShawnMrFixit Lee Yeah if you read the back you'll see the Heet and Rubbing Alcohol are the same pretty much, i been using rubbing alcohol for years
Right on , I will have to try it ! Thanks bro..
how much alcohol should I put
seafoam is not meant to take water out of fuel it is actually meant to clean 2-stroke outboard engines