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I just recently found out that I had my 2nd amendment rights taken away for me going to a hospital nearly 20 years ago. What can I do to get my rights restored
In 2011 I had a medical emergency and my wife made the mistake of calling 911. I ended up with THIRTY TWO charges, an involuntary commitment (cuz i freaked out when they drugged me) AND was fired from my job and EVICTED because the police went to MY EMPLOYER and lied about what happened (i worked for and lived at the same apartment complex) FYI i beat those charges but the treatment i received from the police left my life in shambles
His m*rder has to be heavy on his grandparents minds. They tried to get help. They were blocked from sight of their grandson. It's so sad watching his grandparents pace. In watching this. I'm in Minneapolis Minnesota. It reminds me of George Floyd. Watching in horror and they won't let him be saved. Laughing while he takes his last breath. 1 cop said he was hitting and everyone believes him. Next thing he gets 3 needles. Could interact with his seizure medicine and he died. All of them are guilty. 100%
It's hard to see, but the cop who ran back to the bedroom went from 0 to 100 in the blink of an eye. It looks like the patient stumbled into one of the other medics or cops, no punches were thrown, and it went downhill from there. It actually went downhill the moment the cops arrived. Cops make every situation worse.
I know its not a good look to encourage people to take matters into their own hands, but what other options are left? John Locke always said to exhaust all appeals first but how many appeals are left at this point?
I dont care anymore. People need to take action against the police or it wont change, people need to learn their rights and exercise their 2a rights when witnessing wrongful arrests and excisive force, its absolutely legal @TheRedWardog
I’m a 35+ year retired Paramedic, I’m absolutely mortified. He’s still in the postictal phase, it can last 5-30 minutes after the seizure and he WILL be confused. He needs blood work to check the levels of his meds. This so very upsetting to me. You don’t need to medicate a postictal patient. I’ll pray for this family, this was unprofessional and plain wrong, you never laugh and make fun of a sick individual😔
Exactly why I never became a 1st responder, ESPECIALLY these days like past 20 yrs. One wrong procedure dealing with drug addicts and I’m going to prison for murder.
As a critical care RN this is deeply disturbing. 1) People can become aggressive after a seizure in the postictal state 2) Was a history taken on this man prior to injecting meds? 3) No Vitals were taken and left on him through the duration of the event 4) His face was flat against a pillow 5) From what I heard on the video he was given Versed (sedative) Benadryl (sedative) Ketamine (powerful dissociative amnesic used for pain and sedation) Haldol (sedative) - ALL of these drugs combined require the use of continuous vital sign monitoring! Especially the Ketamine! 6) They did not wait long enough for one drug to work before giving another! 7) The unprofessionalism of the police and EMS was horrifying. This man did NOT deserve to die this way and I am glad to hear that Ben Crump is representing this family!
Any time a medical professional uses ketamine they have to monitor breathing and pulse as the patient may stop breathing from the drug alone, this is why ketamine is supposed to be used in controlled settings under strict scrutiny. You are not to administer ketamine with any other drug like Ativan as it will have an adverse reaction which may result in death or psychotic episodes. YOU ARE NOT allowed to depress the chest after administering these controlled substances as it may result in death due to slowed breathing and heart rate, medical professionals are supposed to monitor patients vitals after administration of sed controlled substances. This is depraved indifference, this is murder.
I also heard the medication versed and his face was flat against the pillow. The person ordering the medications should lose their license and get fired. This video was very disturbing.
When I was an EMT, many years ago, paramedics needed permission from a Dr before administering drugs, if that's still the case then the Dr is liable as well.
We are, we're their labor chattel They treat the populace like this in order to condition us _not_ to call them- they like collecting a paycheck without having to provide any useful good or service. Interrupting their career long break is frowned upon if you like living.
🎯. This is completely unacceptable behavior from a medic. In Florida the medics are in charge of the scene and have total authority. This man should have been treated medically and not like a criminal. This is outrageous
Sad part is that he isn't the first person to have this done to him. K shots on scene without proper medical professionals (like a doctor) should be illegal to begin with. 😒
In my opinion, this was a murder. They berated him, stepped on him, Handcuffed him, sat on him , pumped him full of drugs, and laughed at his pain until the man just died.. A bunch of fake public servants....Every last one of them!
One of the most blatant ones I’ve ever seen frankly. The bootlickers can’t even find a leg to stand on to defend this one, this was literally a law abiding man that had a medical emergency in his own home. Inexcusable and disgusting
Yeah and you and anyone else in the world with a brain only idiots would believe this was anything less than murder but this is what American police are and always have been see what happened was people grew up believing they was good because we didn't have social media and internet where we could see it so the belief was cops was good now with all his social media we see that they're not they're just a strong arm government long-arm to keep us enslaved they have qualified immunity against their crimes so this will never change
Look cattle, this is what happens when you dont cooperate with us cops. Hopefully the rest of you cattle can learn a lesson from this. Thank you for your continued support. We love how you cattle pay and obey.
That, and then there's the grandma. Like, wtf? With a grandma like her, maybe that dude is better off dead? For her to parrot the cops that they are there to help him after what they had already done to him by that point. Yikes ...
In 2011 I had a medical emergency and my wife made the mistake of calling 911. I ended up with THIRTY TWO charges, an involuntary commitment (cuz i freaked out when they drugged me) AND was fired from my job and EVICTED because the police went to MY EMPLOYER and lied about what happened (i worked for and lived at the same apartment complex) FYI i beat those charges but the treatment i received from the police left my life in shambles
@@illegalwidget267 It was to injections, nothing really out of the ordinary. Guy was most likely also on drugs and the additional ketamine was too much for him to handle
I'm an ER nurse. I have NEVER seen this amount of chemical restraints used on a combative patient. They didn't wait long enough for the medications to take effect and overdosed him.
How would they know? If they were medical experts, they would have malpractice insurance. They are Heroes with qualified immunity, It’s just a game to them.
I'm a former EMT and I have focal epilepsy. I have made STRICT instructions to all friends, family, and neighbors they are to NEVER call 911 to my home. If they call for a wellness check or ambulance, I will absolutely disown them. What happened to this man could be me one day. I AM TERRIFIED!!!
Leave it to cops to criminalize an epileptic seizure -aided and abetted by medics! Unbelievable. The medics should've been witness to many post-seizure patients, if they had any experience at all, and known what to do and NOT do. Going with meth overdose drugs like ketamine is worst case for post-epileptic seizure.
@@Veritas-invenitur So if a kid is dying of a blocked airway because he ate a peanut butter sandwich by mistake you want the cop to let him? You're developing an extremist ideology against cops that goes beyond any reasonable extent.
My youngest was bit in the face by my dog when she fell off the the bed onto him. I don't want to get into the what I did with my dog but my 4 year old daughter was given Ketamine before her stitches. That is scary stuff that people with only a high school diploma shouldn't be allowed to administer with and especially without consent. She wasn't calm. She just couldn't resist or remember.
@@brmam1385 calling it a tranquilizer is so misleading. There is nothing tranquil about it. I can not believe that is a "tranquilizer" officers are allowed to forcefully administer.
They answered when I called. Just keep calling. Make them disconnect their phones. Make their dispatchers want to go home and eat their service weapon.
Law-enforcement has no medical training to be at that scene and they have no place being there, and the man who’s having seizures has no business being in handcuffs and not on a monitor getting ketamine and versed while seizing, those are chemical restraints they are not anti-seizure medicines
This is really the only comment worth reading. Calling 911 is dangerous and the best way for the public to express their dissatisfaction with our current police state, is to never seek them out for anything.
I’m a retired Fire Dept Paramedic. I have lost count how many seizure calls I worked over my career. This is honestly the worst thing I’ve ever seen, and I have seen some seriously awful things- enough to give me C-PTSD. This man was in a post-ichtal state. It’s the period where the person’s brain is rebooting. During that time they need minimal stimulation. Minimal questions. Minimal touching. This entire situation, the patients’ agitation, was initially caused by the police, putting their hands on him, yelling commands, and roughing him up. Shame on this paramedic for not telling them to back off! Shame on this paramedic for not standing between them and their patient! Police officers are a hammer and all they ever see are nails. Everyone who isn’t cooperative they think it’s on purpose. I have had to physically get between one and my patient several times. I’ve had to ask cops to leave because they don’t understand what’s happening. They sure as hell would not send my firefighters away, who know to follow my instructions, and stay there instead. The person in charge of this scene is the Paramedic, because it is a medical call! Medical calls don’t need Police, if medics need help restraining a PATIENT, that’s what the Firefighters are for. Now for the medic. This paramedic is going to end up without a certification, never work in the medical field again, and in jail for manslaughter, and they deserve it. Every medication they gave this man when he was awake and talking were contraindicated for seizure, because HE WASN’T SEIZING ANYMORE and I guarantee you not on any of their protocols. Each med then became a separate assault. At this point they were practicing medicine without a license! That they allowed themselves to be manipulated by the police into thinking of their patient as a suspect is unconscionable. If you showed this video to every Paramedic in the US, 99% of them (I allow that 1% could be too ignorant or uneducated) would say the same as me. I feel sick. I couldn’t watch all of it at one time. I had to do it in spurts. THIS is the great responsibility a Paramedic carries every day. To do no harm. You’re physically able to give people medications that CAN KILL THEM. When given properly and under protocol. I don’t know a greater responsibility than that. Let me tell you how these calls usually go. You get there after the seizure has ended and the patient is post-ichtal. You gently get a set of vitals if it doesn’t rile the patient too much. If they are in a safe space, turned on their side is great, but not absolute, you leave an EMT with them while you speak to family quietly in another room and get the history/med info/identifying information/etc so the person’s brain has time to come back to normal. You return to the patient and try asking simple questions that don’t need brainpower to answer. Within a few minutes, the person can sit up and talk to you, though they are still very groggy. At that point, you ask if you can take them to the hospital. If they say yes, you do. If they say no, you ask them four orientation questions to determine if they’re oriented to person/place/time/event. (What’s your name? Where are we right now? What month is it? What happened today?) If they answer those questions appropriately, they are oriented and can REFUSE to be transported. You advise them that you feel they should go, and by refusing they are doing so against medical advice. If they still refuse, they sign a refusal form, you advise them to call back if needed, and you leave. If an oriented person who refused treatment and transport is forced to go to the hospital it is now ASSAULT & BATTERY and KIDNAPPING. People have a Constitutional right to make bad decisions against medical advice as long as they’re oriented X4. People who have seizures often refuse treatment and transport because all they’re going to do at the hospital is check their med levels and observe them for a few hours to make sure they don’t seize again, then send them a bill for hundreds or thousands of dollars. Instead, a young man is dead. That Paramedic should be on immediate leave. They should never be allowed to touch a patient again. An internal investigation has been launched and will lead to their firing, hopefully VERY quickly. Once the autopsy is done and his cause of death is determined (suffocation from the pillow? Positional asphyxiation? Respiratory failure? Effect of one the drugs on his heart? Etc) I suspect that what’s happening right now is a Prosecutor getting their ducks in a row to charge this Paramedic, their partner, the cops and possibly even the Firefighters if they touched the patient. And they will deserve every bit of it.
Thank you for this. Your insight is invaluable. This is one of dozens of videos I've seen of cops misinterpreting medical signs. One was a man with low blood sugar swaying and stopping his car. Cops thought he was drunk, ended up screaming at him, tasing him and killing him. Another video had a man with mental health issues get tased and beaten up because he was having a psychotic episode. Its terrifying that these cops are so badly trained!!! 😢 RIP to all people killed by cops.
Thank you for that thorough, reasonable breakdown. I was once hailed a hero for acting quick enough to save a man who had a seizure. I sure wasn't trying to be. I was photographing a building for a film shoot when something abruptly crashed into me and and across the lens of my camera. I look down and there was a man convulsing. I quickly looked around to see if his co-workers or any one was going to step in. They all looked at me like, "it's on you my man." Which was fine because I didn't want to cause an upset. I was the stranger in the neighborhood I was taking pictures in. In a flash I suddenly remembered all the first aid I had even known from grade school all the way through adult life. I remembered ever step in order and the man came back around. Moments later the paramedics showed up, no police so he had a chance. As I sat on the curb, exhausted. People came over and tapped my shoulder, some caressed my head. I was zapped, it took every ounce of energy I had. I could barely raise my head to acknowledge anything going on around me. After the paramedics got the man in the ambulance one of them came over to me and said, "The only thing that saved that man's life was how you cared for him while he was down." I chuckled and responded with, "do you have any room in there for me, I'm zapped." We chuckled and they took him to the hospital. The idea that there was not a professional in the room to care for another human being is troubling.
Thanks for elaborating. So sad that those tasked with providing care lost track of who they were there to assist. Instead of providing medical care to their patient they joined forces with the cops' agenda to subdue. And mirrored the artificial sense of urgency that accompanied it. Repeatedly using chemical restraints (multiples of benadryl & haldol, & then ketamine) on a man already on the floor in handcuffs seems like it should carry the same consequences as tasing or pepper-spraying someone in similar circumstances would. Seems likely that if they'd allowed him to relax, like turned him to sit face up and given him some space and a view of his grandmother, rather than trying to force him to indicate submission as a prerequisite … He was already cuffed on the floor in a room full of uniformed 'professionals', it wasn't about safety anymore (if it ever really had been). When the EMT was talking about whether anyone had assessed vitals he had an opportunity to remember who he was and why he was there. Sadly, in the end tragically, he instead rationalized a bit and shook it off to instead stick with exchanging "us vs. them" solidarity rapport with the cops. I'm feeling the SNAFU bordering on FUBAR side of "the human condition" weaving into this. They arrived as invited guests and left death in their wake.
6:57 Exactly, brx8r They totally ignored him, and even laughed. How does one sit on someone that's needing emergency aid, how can they turn off their conscience, and not listen to the patient? It's mind boggling! My God, they even have him in handcuffs. This was a nightmare.
How can his family member stand by and watch? How can she think this was okay for him in handcuffs/face down on the floor.. He has a condition and she isn’t aware of the aftermath of seizures? RIP young man, life shorten by incompetences!!
I have been a RN for 30+ years and I cannot believe what I am seeing!!! This is absolutely malpractice! This poor young man. My heart breaks for this family 😭When is the American people going to stop stroking the egos of law enforcement and begin holding them accountable???
I wanna know how long it took them to hook up the BVM. They left it in the f'ing rig. Thats brain death, thats more lawsuit money. I called ben crump and told them to get the time it took to hook up the BVM thats why he was blue for gods sake.
The problems won't be fixed until law enforcement/government is forced to admit that there is in fact a problem. Until then we are literally taking the chance of our lives when dealing with them.
@@alsatfulNegligence is failing to act according to a standard. That's exactly what this is: crimjnal negligence causing death. How is this "beyond negligence"? What does that even mean? I'm trying to get the legal definitions right. You're talking inaccurately in an attempt to emphasize the moral reprehensibility of the act. You don't need to use the wrong definitions to emphasize that this is bad. We can all see that. D'uh. Oh, and I looked it up: in Canada at least, negligently causing death is second degree murder, so I was wrong to say it's technically not murder.
In 2011 I had a medical emergency and my wife made the mistake of calling 911. I ended up with THIRTY TWO charges, an involuntary commitment (cuz i freaked out when they drugged me) AND was fired from my job and EVICTED because the police went to MY EMPLOYER and lied about what happened (i worked for and lived at the same apartment complex) FYI i beat those charges but the treatment i received from the police left my life in shambles
This is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. They ended a man who had a medical condition in his own home and were sitting there laughing about it. Omg
Military mindset , they can erase you because you are deemed the enemy without the badge and everything they do is a claim for officer safety by murderers with immunity
They gave him drugs that stopped his breathing. They put him in a position that made breathing difficult. They pressed a knee against his back, which makes breathing difficult.
A great example of why police should not be allowed on the scene of a medical intervention. They are, at best, unqualified and, at worst, will react like the victim is a criminal.
"Position that wouldn't restrict his breathing" = overweight guy, prone, restrained, face in a pillow, three cops putting weight on his back, and EMTs administering an overdose of sedatives. I'd hate to see what they consider "restricting" if this is them not doing it. This was a cold blooded execution.
Ketamine is used to knock out mammals (mainly large) everything from horses, elephant seals, elephants, humans. It had other effects as well. It is a hallucinogen.
As an RN. This case has a cut and dry. This boy had no clue what was going on. They had no business handcuffing or using a tazor on him. Them making a joke out of it. I wish to god I was on that trial. They have no business being first responders. This ticks me off. An unnecessary death!
As a retired nurse practitioner, I was horrified at the treatment this poor man received. First, post tonic seizure, during the clonic phase is not the time to try to force a person to get medical care. It is the time to keep the patient calm while assessing the patient's condition. I thought I heard one of those deputies say something about a taser. Why would anyone taser a man who was just coming out of a seizure when the patient's brain is already scrambled? And why do EMT's have ketamine to administer. I know that use of that by EMT's is controversial & here we see why. All the emergency response people , law enforcement & medical should be held accountable for this poor man's death
Some states allow the use of ketamine for extreme agitation (4-5 mg/kg) But I highly doubt they'd allow it with Benadryl, Versed and Haldol. Indiana must have some very liberal med protocols or these guys completely went rogue!
It's because the judges and judge magistrates mostly just listen or read the dialog so it makes then look good in the eyes of the judge's(if you want to call them that!) So they make off the cuff judgements instead of actually watching the videos from my understanding why they always yell out lies to cover them own asses!
Trust me, I understand what you are saying, but the EMT guys won't take you if you unintentionally get violent. I know this because when I had a grand mal seizure, and became agitated, the EMT guys called the cops, and I had to be taken to the hospital in a paddy wagon in handcuffs. NurseJenn explained this a little better than I did. Whoever gave this man haloperidol (Haldol) apparently did not know that Haldol actually LOWERS the seizure threshold, and makes things worse.
They FORCIBLY injected him with almost 2/3 of the LD50 for intramuscular ketamine. I call that murder. He probably didn't even need an ambulance, that man needed to be left the hell alone like he demanded. If he's conscious and coherent and able to put pants and a shirt on and walk around and articulate that he refused to consent to medical treatment, then NOBODY has any right to forcibly render medical treatment. I've known a few people prone to seizures. Every last one of them made it abundantly clear to me that IN NO CIRCUMSTANCE was I to call 911 if they had a seizure unless they were literally not breathing and turning purple. The 4th Amendment was supposed to protect this guy's life.
@@lambda2857 in order to legally administer drugs like that you need to be certified in EMT/Paramedic training, they are absolutely 100% liable and KNEW what they were doing
He didn't want to go to the hospital, did you watch the video? They forced him to go, while injecting large doses of Ketamine into him. All the while, fighting seizures.
Over 30 years as a firefighter and paramedic I can honestly say this is beyond disturbing. This entire treatment was way outside of the protocols. Too much wrong here to say what is the worse part. The police definitely made everything worse. The medics are cowboys. Very unprofessional. Criminal potential. Definitely needs to review the protocols.
The police made the situations worse and those EMT's on scene completely failed at every aspect of their job that night. They should have been fired while the cops and firefighters at the least should have been reprimanded for their unprofessional attitudes.
Everyone at this call should be charged with second-degree murder. They euthanized this man in cold blood as he was under the detainment of multiple officers.
Do you know what euthanized means? At what point was he willing and gave concent to been injected? If he was not of sound mind who made the determination that the medications need to be used knowing he's not long had a seizure
My guess is they say stuff like this for the camera so that a judge and/or jury(who are already overly sympathetic towards cops and willing to dismiss any display of brutality as the cost of doing business) will view their actions as an honest misjudgement, rather than a deliberate and callous disregard for life.
WOW....lost count how many times they said “more meds”.....💯🤯This was ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!! We LITERALLY watched them ☠️him! They all need to be charged!
Paramedics have no business pushing k. They aren't qualified to properly assess patients for sedation, and they don't carry the proper equipment to do so even if they were.
I am a retired police investigator and EMT and the paramedic student administered (3) rounds of Ketamine (depressant) 100 per round. This is over medication and they never put him on a cardiac monitor.
It illegal to force medical treatment on anyone including life saving aid. If they refuse medical treatment and are of sound mind and body then medical personnel have to follow their wishes. Ive dealt with some seizure patients in the past and it can take several minutes for them to become aware of what is happening. I had to fight an inmate one time after he had a seizure in his cell. Not a fun experience. But I didn't go out of my way to hurt him either. I restrained him until he stopped fighting and relaxed. My lieutenant wanted me to write a case on him but I refused because I knew the situation. These officers and paramedics are absolute garbage for this. In med school they teach you how to deal with someone having a seizure and what will likely happen afterwards. These paramedics didn't give a shit.
@@Truckerdaddy my husband in the icu. We were told he could not consent to surgery because he had pain meds thay gave him in his system... yet, that night he coded because he wouldn't wear an oxygen mask after becoming hypoxic. So he was not coherent for surgery but was to refuse a mask... he coded
Here’s the problem with most police officers, they think whatever they do, think of is ok. Even if they don’t know, it’s a mindset of my authority supersedes whatever else is going on. This why body cams were fought against
@goodolearkygal5746 most pain meds they give are narcotics that inhibits clear thoughts. So that's how you end up in that predicament. What should've been set up was a power of attorney/authority. Generally the spouse is the default decision of the one getting medical attention.
Ketamine is a medication that doctors use as an anesthetic to induce loss of consciousness. Under the Controlled Substances Act, health experts consider ketamine a schedule III non-narcotic substance.
Had a licensed physician or other medical practitioner done this they would probably be accused of murder and be sitting in a jail cell awaiting trial. But government actors practicing "street medicine" ...no liability. They will investigate themselves and find nothing wrong. Maybe the taxpayers foot the lawsuit bill.
No doubt, a nurse or orderly would be facing criminal charges under the exact same conditions. But then they receive training to avoid such situations, police and EMTs do not. No doubt they over medicated and probably suffocated him. Sedatives suppress the central nervous system and slow the breathing.
Aren't you keeping track of how many shots? Ohh, I thought YOU were keeping count? uhh,ohh... Do you know CPR? No, I though YOU knew CPR... Nope ...bummer
While I agree with your sentiment, unfortunately medical malpractice resulting in death or physical harm happen every day but the insurance companies representing doctors and hospitals have lobbied for laws that make it EXTREMELY difficult to report a doctor to the medical boards. Medical malpractice lawsuits are capped at $250k and take years to complete. Even after a doctor has been legally sanctioned, hospitals are not allowed to report to other hospitals what has occurred when the doctor moves to a different facility, and there is no publicly available database reporting what patients have experienced. I'm a former surgical tech and saw this happening firsthand. There are hundred of horror stories of surgeons jumping hospitals and leaving a wake of malpractice. One surgeon was killing people for over a decade before the police were finally able to get involved. In general, the police avoid pursuing these cases cuz they have no medical training and the doctors and hospitals have powerful insurance groups and law firms representing them. It is VERY difficult to get a doctor's license revoked. I worked with a few that were terrifying but my reporting meant nothing since their patients weren't dying.
The same DOJ trying to murder other citizens? No. It’s time to form a citizens board of review. Not one controlled by the government but outside the government. Does anyone even remember how our founding fathers laid out their claims and then were willing to use force?
poor option when u have only one number for both... and stupid ppl on the other end ... and in a small town nothings going on it seems like US police seems like to be the first gossiping karens ...
Holy crap they drugged him to death, with his face in a pillow. This is frightening, the fact the killers think they did nothing wrong is insanity. And the laughing at a medical emergency is criminal.
It always amazes me, when someone is having a medical issue - the cops all huddle around, they don't give the victim air or room to breathe, they all have to huddle over and watch, and make the situation worse. Government isn't out to help anyone.
*I don't think they are just huddling around. It looked like they were putting their body weight on the subject, and making it difficult (or impossible) to breathe.*
The first time I saw this I was so disgusted. They executed him with grins on their faces while he cried that he was going to die. And of course…zero accountability.
In a civilised country, if someone rings the recognised emergency number, the caller is asked 'Police, fire or ambulance?' If an ambulance is requested, the caller is put through to a medically competent person and, after a quick assessment of the request, an ambulance is sent. The Police DO NOT show up. In the USA, which in most respects is a civilised country, the police are not medically competent and should therefore NOT attend unless the ambulance is required due to a crime having been committed. Even then, the patient is not their responsibility. This video is evidence that the police in the USA will always make a situation worse than it is or needs to be. Reform of the procedure is required to prevent this type of thing occurring again.
Thank god when i had a seizure, no police came and only paramedics. They didnt drug me they immediately took me to the hospital. Im sorry for this man who got unlucky getting the cops.
In 2011 I had a medical emergency and my wife made the mistake of calling 911. I ended up with THIRTY TWO charges, an involuntary commitment (cuz i freaked out when they drugged me) AND was fired from my job and EVICTED because the police went to MY EMPLOYER and lied about what happened (i worked for and lived at the same apartment complex) FYI i beat those charges but the treatment i received from the police left my life in shambles
get him in a car and take him or her yourself. I remember holding my brother down in the back seat with mom while dad drove to the Hospital after taking Angel Dust
@@mybuu5988 Don't call 911... simple. Get in the car and drive to the doctor. You wouldn't walk in the post office and order a cheeseburger.... don't call cops if your need medical attention.
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Thank you John
LITERALLY just watched commentary video on "We The People University" YT channel on this incident. Didn't have BWC footage though.
This was murder. Plain and simple.
I just recently found out that I had my 2nd amendment rights taken away for me going to a hospital nearly 20 years ago. What can I do to get my rights restored
The city council doesn't not provide email addresses for the councilmembers. That tells me all I need to know about Jasper.
Fact check: If the cops never showed up to "help" this young man would still be alive.
Fact
In 2011 I had a medical emergency and my wife made the mistake of calling 911. I ended up with THIRTY TWO charges, an involuntary commitment (cuz i freaked out when they drugged me) AND was fired from my job and EVICTED because the police went to MY EMPLOYER and lied about what happened (i worked for and lived at the same apartment complex) FYI i beat those charges but the treatment i received from the police left my life in shambles
Who's in office doesn't change literally any of that lol. How don't people get that... Maybe look at history. They all are corrupt.
His m*rder has to be heavy on his grandparents minds. They tried to get help. They were blocked from sight of their grandson. It's so sad watching his grandparents pace. In watching this. I'm in Minneapolis Minnesota. It reminds me of George Floyd. Watching in horror and they won't let him be saved. Laughing while he takes his last breath. 1 cop said he was hitting and everyone believes him. Next thing he gets 3 needles. Could interact with his seizure medicine and he died. All of them are guilty. 100%
@@tsunami-lightwave9395 I highly doubt he's okay with leo's like these whose actions kill someone through their sheer ignorance.
I love how cops expect people to “relax” while being manhandled, but if you touch them ever so slightly, it’s an unforgivable offense.
You cant even say anything to them without it being a insane threat
Obstruction.
@@dks13827of what? A lightbulb? Hahaha
They are waiting for public to respond.....
It's hard to see, but the cop who ran back to the bedroom went from 0 to 100 in the blink of an eye. It looks like the patient stumbled into one of the other medics or cops, no punches were thrown, and it went downhill from there. It actually went downhill the moment the cops arrived. Cops make every situation worse.
They literally killed him and nobody will go to jail. This country is sick
Yep. And it'll get much worse.
I know its not a good look to encourage people to take matters into their own hands, but what other options are left? John Locke always said to exhaust all appeals first but how many appeals are left at this point?
Colonizers for ya, evil
We are beyond diplomacy at this point
I dont care anymore. People need to take action against the police or it wont change, people need to learn their rights and exercise their 2a rights when witnessing wrongful arrests and excisive force, its absolutely legal @TheRedWardog
I’m a 35+ year retired Paramedic, I’m absolutely mortified. He’s still in the postictal phase, it can last 5-30 minutes after the seizure and he WILL be confused. He needs blood work to check the levels of his meds. This so very upsetting to me. You don’t need to medicate a postictal patient. I’ll pray for this family, this was unprofessional and plain wrong, you never laugh and make fun of a sick individual😔
Exactly why I never became a 1st responder, ESPECIALLY these days like past 20 yrs. One wrong procedure dealing with drug addicts and I’m going to prison for murder.
@@jimmystrickland1034this video shows that to be false…
@@jimmystrickland1034 WTH are you talking about? It's pretty easy to not kill someone, especially due to complete negligence like this.
@@jimmystrickland1034 I guarantee you none of these guys will get charged with murder or go to jail.
Thank you for your professional insight.
As a critical care RN this is deeply disturbing. 1) People can become aggressive after a seizure in the postictal state 2) Was a history taken on this man prior to injecting meds? 3) No Vitals were taken and left on him through the duration of the event 4) His face was flat against a pillow 5) From what I heard on the video he was given Versed (sedative) Benadryl (sedative) Ketamine (powerful dissociative amnesic used for pain and sedation) Haldol (sedative) - ALL of these drugs combined require the use of continuous vital sign monitoring! Especially the Ketamine! 6) They did not wait long enough for one drug to work before giving another! 7) The unprofessionalism of the police and EMS was horrifying. This man did NOT deserve to die this way and I am glad to hear that Ben Crump is representing this family!
Any time a medical professional uses ketamine they have to monitor breathing and pulse as the patient may stop breathing from the drug alone, this is why ketamine is supposed to be used in controlled settings under strict scrutiny. You are not to administer ketamine with any other drug like Ativan as it will have an adverse reaction which may result in death or psychotic episodes. YOU ARE NOT allowed to depress the chest after administering these controlled substances as it may result in death due to slowed breathing and heart rate, medical professionals are supposed to monitor patients vitals after administration of sed controlled substances. This is depraved indifference, this is murder.
Incompetent EMTs. Rather be part of what they think is the "cool" crowd than doing their f-ing job.
@@benjames4502 Agreed!! 👍
I also heard the medication versed and his face was flat against the pillow. The person ordering the medications should lose their license and get fired. This video was very disturbing.
When I was an EMT, many years ago, paramedics needed permission from a Dr before administering drugs, if that's still the case then the Dr is liable as well.
Why is someone in a medical emergency having a crowd of fat cops sitting on him, laughing? They are treating people like animals. It's sickening.
We are, we're their labor chattel They treat the populace like this in order to condition us _not_ to call them- they like collecting a paycheck without having to provide any useful good or service. Interrupting their career long break is frowned upon if you like living.
🎯. This is completely unacceptable behavior from a medic. In Florida the medics are in charge of the scene and have total authority. This man should have been treated medically and not like a criminal. This is outrageous
EMS is quick to OD people.
They see themselves as Gods and overlords who are a supreme human above all others and can take life at will
Never been to Indiana? Keep it that way. It is a 💩 show in all counties.
This was murder. Police shouldn't have even been there.
Can you tell me who called them?
Sad part is that he isn't the first person to have this done to him. K shots on scene without proper medical professionals (like a doctor) should be illegal to begin with. 😒
I thought they called medical. I hear that sometimes the police sometimes come along.
No law had been broken so why was he even in cuffs?
Laughing and joking while they did it. This is why they are not liked by the people. I dont trust them at all.
@@drillsergeant623his grandmother called 911 for medical
How narcissistic do you have to be not to see that you are killing someone.
Not narcissistic, PSYCHOTIC.
Sheriff said his deputies did nothing wrong ? !!!! The sheriff is the main problem !!!
❤
As long as you fear integrity and accountability, you are NOT the good guys!
Sheriffs hire anything with a pulse and a mediocre clean record.
Good ole qualified immunity. Works every time.
This Sheriff must be brain dead to think his employees did nothing wrong.
Cops will tell you you aren’t a lawyer, doctor, etc. meanwhile a EMT is taking medical direction from a cop who most probably barely has a HS diploma.
But but but the cop was the allstar on his HS Football team!!
Ketamine is a very dangerous drug
@@xephael3485
It’s one of the safest anaesthetics out there.
A lot of truth in that sentence.
@@xephael3485 All sedatives like that are "dangerous" if they are administered by an idiot in a completely uncontrolled environment.
"No law enforcement officers were harmed in the murder of this young citizen!"
after all ...at the end of the day they need to go home to their families
And that's all that matters. Thank you for your public service announcement.
Officer safety....threat under control
Bummer
That's sad
How are cops allowed to inject him with anything!!!??
As an EMS employee, these medics should loose their licenses immediately, and these cops should be put in prison
That'll never happen..
They always investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing..
This country is gone.. Doomed..
This nation is COOKED
Paramedics and nurses would lose their license. Cops would retire or be aquited.
These clowns.
I'd feel better with you being a paramedic, if you could spell properly first. You socialist incompetents are the real problem.
In my opinion, this was a murder. They berated him, stepped on him, Handcuffed him, sat on him , pumped him full of drugs, and laughed at his pain until the man just died.. A bunch of fake public servants....Every last one of them!
One of the most blatant ones I’ve ever seen frankly. The bootlickers can’t even find a leg to stand on to defend this one, this was literally a law abiding man that had a medical emergency in his own home. Inexcusable and disgusting
I agree. But. OIE. Do not call 911 if I have an emergency. Do not. I’ll drive myself to the EMR. Medical.
Yeah and you and anyone else in the world with a brain only idiots would believe this was anything less than murder but this is what American police are and always have been see what happened was people grew up believing they was good because we didn't have social media and internet where we could see it so the belief was cops was good now with all his social media we see that they're not they're just a strong arm government long-arm to keep us enslaved they have qualified immunity against their crimes so this will never change
Domestic terrorism
Look cattle, this is what happens when you dont cooperate with us cops. Hopefully the rest of you cattle can learn a lesson from this. Thank you for your continued support. We love how you cattle pay and obey.
Perfect example of the “No situation a cop can’t make worse” phrase!
What's worse is they still call themselves the good guys!
@@michaelccopelandsr7120 Yep , the hero's.
And they'll be laughing as they do it.
That, and then there's the grandma. Like, wtf? With a grandma like her, maybe that dude is better off dead? For her to parrot the cops that they are there to help him after what they had already done to him by that point. Yikes ...
In 2011 I had a medical emergency and my wife made the mistake of calling 911. I ended up with THIRTY TWO charges, an involuntary commitment (cuz i freaked out when they drugged me) AND was fired from my job and EVICTED because the police went to MY EMPLOYER and lied about what happened (i worked for and lived at the same apartment complex) FYI i beat those charges but the treatment i received from the police left my life in shambles
This is criminal. Both paramedics and officers belong in prison.
They forcefully euthanized him for having a seizure
😢
Grandma - “officers, my grandson is having seizures”
Officers - “Not anymore” 😡😡
RIP young man 😢
I lost track of how many injections. Ketamine is a horse tranquilizer. At least we used it on horses.
@@illegalwidget267Only drug addicts use ketamine willfully.
@@illegalwidget267 It was to injections, nothing really out of the ordinary. Guy was most likely also on drugs and the additional ketamine was too much for him to handle
I'm an ER nurse. I have NEVER seen this amount of chemical restraints used on a combative patient. They didn't wait long enough for the medications to take effect and overdosed him.
Thank you, msdarby, You are absolutely correct.
How would they know? If they were medical experts, they would have malpractice insurance. They are Heroes with qualified immunity, It’s just a game to them.
Thank you for your profession. I appreciate you all.
Pharmacist, here. Yep.
@@skippylippy547you use the word heroes very loosely. These fellows are not heroes.
I'm a former EMT and I have focal epilepsy. I have made STRICT instructions to all friends, family, and neighbors they are to NEVER call 911 to my home. If they call for a wellness check or ambulance, I will absolutely disown them. What happened to this man could be me one day. I AM TERRIFIED!!!
God bless you. I pray for your safety.
@@TFREE1828 Amen!
That's a sad reality you have to live with everyday. Hang in there.
Exactly what I told my wife. I also deal with epilepsy.
I am in the same exact boat and this video made me cry because I have had to tell this too all of my family members.
Cop should not be allowed on the scene of a medical situation.
“Take a nap.” “You’ll feel so much better in a second.”?! What the ever flying fuck?! They killed him! This is murder!
It's called murder.
What you were witnessing is murder. The grandmother doesn’t realize it yet.
(Police show up) This man is dead he just doesn't know it yet.
@@BAWWAABAAT-RA Not police, color of law pirate's that JFK gave his life trying to stop them from coming onto our shores
bars
Its so sad because you can tell she had faith that those criminals with badges actually intend to help her grandson.
Leave it to cops to criminalize an epileptic seizure -aided and abetted by medics! Unbelievable. The medics should've been witness to many post-seizure patients, if they had any experience at all, and known what to do and NOT do. Going with meth overdose drugs like ketamine is worst case for post-epileptic seizure.
Law enforcement should never inject any medication at anytime to anyone
What about Narcan and Epipens?
@@RussOlson-pl3kf Is a cop a medic? No.
@@MrGerdbrecht You're straight saying cops should let a schoolkid die rather than give them an Epipen?
@@RussOlson-pl3kfI don’t believe that law enforcement officers should ever administer medications to someone without verbal consent.
@@Veritas-invenitur So if a kid is dying of a blocked airway because he ate a peanut butter sandwich by mistake you want the cop to let him? You're developing an extremist ideology against cops that goes beyond any reasonable extent.
I am so sick and tired of supervisors saying that their officers did nothing wrong....a man died in your custody you are responsible
My youngest was bit in the face by my dog when she fell off the the bed onto him. I don't want to get into the what I did with my dog but my 4 year old daughter was given Ketamine before her stitches. That is scary stuff that people with only a high school diploma shouldn't be allowed to administer with and especially without consent. She wasn't calm. She just couldn't resist or remember.
"a man was murdered in your custody". Fixed that for you
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 Using Ketamine in the field is highly dangerous & needs an experienced paramedic as a minimum level of education.
@@brmam1385 calling it a tranquilizer is so misleading. There is nothing tranquil about it. I can not believe that is a "tranquilizer" officers are allowed to forcefully administer.
This is level of corruption you would expect in communist country.. The USA is going down the same path that led USSR into oblivion.
The cowards at the sheriffs office won't answer calls because "they've been harassed for two weeks over this". Gutless demons
They answered when I called. Just keep calling. Make them disconnect their phones. Make their dispatchers want to go home and eat their service weapon.
Poor things
Bless their heart
Law-enforcement has no medical training to be at that scene and they have no place being there, and the man who’s having seizures has no business being in handcuffs and not on a monitor getting ketamine and versed while seizing, those are chemical restraints they are not anti-seizure medicines
They should be fleeing the country, not ignoring phone calls.
There is no situation which cannot be made worse by a cop.
and which WONT be
My books are suicide.
And no situation that can be made better by one. Whenever they could actually do some good, they're all too cowardly to act.
You are 100% correct.
NEVER let cops in your house for medical or anything.
More proof that you should never call the police.
This is really the only comment worth reading. Calling 911 is dangerous and the best way for the public to express their dissatisfaction with our current police state, is to never seek them out for anything.
Then who should we call ? 😂 the hood drug dealer ?
I just want to know why the F cops are showing up for medical emergencies that doesn’t involve a crime!!! WHY??!!??
They were requested by EMS
It did involve a crime…. It was MURDER
@@emojiman4560Facts!!!!
My question exactly
how else do they know ahead of everyone else what properties are soon to be on the market?
I’m a retired Fire Dept Paramedic. I have lost count how many seizure calls I worked over my career. This is honestly the worst thing I’ve ever seen, and I have seen some seriously awful things- enough to give me C-PTSD. This man was in a post-ichtal state. It’s the period where the person’s brain is rebooting. During that time they need minimal stimulation. Minimal questions. Minimal touching. This entire situation, the patients’ agitation, was initially caused by the police, putting their hands on him, yelling commands, and roughing him up. Shame on this paramedic for not telling them to back off! Shame on this paramedic for not standing between them and their patient! Police officers are a hammer and all they ever see are nails. Everyone who isn’t cooperative they think it’s on purpose. I have had to physically get between one and my patient several times. I’ve had to ask cops to leave because they don’t understand what’s happening. They sure as hell would not send my firefighters away, who know to follow my instructions, and stay there instead. The person in charge of this scene is the Paramedic, because it is a medical call! Medical calls don’t need Police, if medics need help restraining a PATIENT, that’s what the Firefighters are for.
Now for the medic. This paramedic is going to end up without a certification, never work in the medical field again, and in jail for manslaughter, and they deserve it. Every medication they gave this man when he was awake and talking were contraindicated for seizure, because HE WASN’T SEIZING ANYMORE and I guarantee you not on any of their protocols. Each med then became a separate assault. At this point they were practicing medicine without a license! That they allowed themselves to be manipulated by the police into thinking of their patient as a suspect is unconscionable. If you showed this video to every Paramedic in the US, 99% of them (I allow that 1% could be too ignorant or uneducated) would say the same as me. I feel sick. I couldn’t watch all of it at one time. I had to do it in spurts. THIS is the great responsibility a Paramedic carries every day. To do no harm. You’re physically able to give people medications that CAN KILL THEM. When given properly and under protocol. I don’t know a greater responsibility than that.
Let me tell you how these calls usually go. You get there after the seizure has ended and the patient is post-ichtal. You gently get a set of vitals if it doesn’t rile the patient too much. If they are in a safe space, turned on their side is great, but not absolute, you leave an EMT with them while you speak to family quietly in another room and get the history/med info/identifying information/etc so the person’s brain has time to come back to normal. You return to the patient and try asking simple questions that don’t need brainpower to answer. Within a few minutes, the person can sit up and talk to you, though they are still very groggy. At that point, you ask if you can take them to the hospital. If they say yes, you do. If they say no, you ask them four orientation questions to determine if they’re oriented to person/place/time/event. (What’s your name? Where are we right now? What month is it? What happened today?) If they answer those questions appropriately, they are oriented and can REFUSE to be transported. You advise them that you feel they should go, and by refusing they are doing so against medical advice. If they still refuse, they sign a refusal form, you advise them to call back if needed, and you leave. If an oriented person who refused treatment and transport is forced to go to the hospital it is now ASSAULT & BATTERY and KIDNAPPING. People have a Constitutional right to make bad decisions against medical advice as long as they’re oriented X4. People who have seizures often refuse treatment and transport because all they’re going to do at the hospital is check their med levels and observe them for a few hours to make sure they don’t seize again, then send them a bill for hundreds or thousands of dollars.
Instead, a young man is dead. That Paramedic should be on immediate leave. They should never be allowed to touch a patient again. An internal investigation has been launched and will lead to their firing, hopefully VERY quickly. Once the autopsy is done and his cause of death is determined (suffocation from the pillow? Positional asphyxiation? Respiratory failure? Effect of one the drugs on his heart? Etc) I suspect that what’s happening right now is a Prosecutor getting their ducks in a row to charge this Paramedic, their partner, the cops and possibly even the Firefighters if they touched the patient. And they will deserve every bit of it.
Thank you for this. Your insight is invaluable. This is one of dozens of videos I've seen of cops misinterpreting medical signs. One was a man with low blood sugar swaying and stopping his car. Cops thought he was drunk, ended up screaming at him, tasing him and killing him. Another video had a man with mental health issues get tased and beaten up because he was having a psychotic episode. Its terrifying that these cops are so badly trained!!! 😢 RIP to all people killed by cops.
Thank you for that thorough, reasonable breakdown. I was once hailed a hero for acting quick enough to save a man who had a seizure. I sure wasn't trying to be. I was photographing a building for a film shoot when something abruptly crashed into me and and across the lens of my camera. I look down and there was a man convulsing. I quickly looked around to see if his co-workers or any one was going to step in. They all looked at me like, "it's on you my man." Which was fine because I didn't want to cause an upset. I was the stranger in the neighborhood I was taking pictures in. In a flash I suddenly remembered all the first aid I had even known from grade school all the way through adult life. I remembered ever step in order and the man came back around. Moments later the paramedics showed up, no police so he had a chance. As I sat on the curb, exhausted. People came over and tapped my shoulder, some caressed my head. I was zapped, it took every ounce of energy I had. I could barely raise my head to acknowledge anything going on around me. After the paramedics got the man in the ambulance one of them came over to me and said, "The only thing that saved that man's life was how you cared for him while he was down." I chuckled and responded with, "do you have any room in there for me, I'm zapped." We chuckled and they took him to the hospital. The idea that there was not a professional in the room to care for another human being is troubling.
Going through a medic course right now, patient autonomy and refusal is literally chapter one in the book.
Thank you for that rundown. Please send the grandmother this letter. That was absolutely horrific to watch.
Thanks for elaborating.
So sad that those tasked with providing care lost track of who they were there to assist. Instead of providing medical care to their patient they joined forces with the cops' agenda to subdue. And mirrored the artificial sense of urgency that accompanied it.
Repeatedly using chemical restraints (multiples of benadryl & haldol, & then ketamine) on a man already on the floor in handcuffs seems like it should carry the same consequences as tasing or pepper-spraying someone in similar circumstances would.
Seems likely that if they'd allowed him to relax, like turned him to sit face up and given him some space and a view of his grandmother, rather than trying to force him to indicate submission as a prerequisite … He was already cuffed on the floor in a room full of uniformed 'professionals', it wasn't about safety anymore (if it ever really had been).
When the EMT was talking about whether anyone had assessed vitals he had an opportunity to remember who he was and why he was there. Sadly, in the end tragically, he instead rationalized a bit and shook it off to instead stick with exchanging "us vs. them" solidarity rapport with the cops.
I'm feeling the SNAFU bordering on FUBAR side of "the human condition" weaving into this.
They arrived as invited guests and left death in their wake.
Poor man foretold his own demise.
If the sheriff said they did nothing wrong, then wouldn’t mind if his child or grand child being handled this way.
great comment
This is absolutely sickening. He's dying and he knows it. He's absolutely terrified and they continue to torture him.
6:57
Exactly, brx8r
They totally ignored him, and even laughed.
How does one sit on someone that's needing emergency aid, how can they turn off their conscience, and not listen to the patient?
It's mind boggling!
My God, they even have him in handcuffs.
This was a nightmare.
They knew him. He was considered "hostile toward law enforcement" so they enjoyed putting him underneath their boots
Oh my gosh! They are laughing and joking while a man is dying. America has become a hopeless nation!
And they are doing all the laughing in front of his granpa!!!!!!!!
Your country is well and truely fcuked.
Been that way always. Society and evil are best friends. Read about jesus and see what i mean
Yes, you are correct!
They are still laughing
How can his family member stand by and watch? How can she think this was okay for him in handcuffs/face down on the floor.. He has a condition and she isn’t aware of the aftermath of seizures? RIP young man, life shorten by incompetences!!
I have been a RN for 30+ years and I cannot believe what I am seeing!!! This is absolutely malpractice! This poor young man. My heart breaks for this family 😭When is the American people going to stop stroking the egos of law enforcement and begin holding them accountable???
Ketamine, versed and benadryl. While being postical
Sometimes I wonder if we don't need more public outrage from our medical professionals on situations like this. It might mean more in the long run.
When the Democrats stop racebaiting and dividing us to enable it.
I wanna know how long it took them to hook up the BVM. They left it in the f'ing rig. Thats brain death, thats more lawsuit money. I called ben crump and told them to get the time it took to hook up the BVM thats why he was blue for gods sake.
The problems won't be fixed until law enforcement/government is forced to admit that there is in fact a problem. Until then we are literally taking the chance of our lives when dealing with them.
So we just witnessed a murder on camera.
Negligent homicide is not technically murder.
Edit: In some jurisdictions, it might be 2nd degree, tho not 1st.
@@js1817 its beyond negligent
@@alsatfulNegligence is failing to act according to a standard. That's exactly what this is: crimjnal negligence causing death.
How is this "beyond negligence"? What does that even mean?
I'm trying to get the legal definitions right. You're talking inaccurately in an attempt to emphasize the moral reprehensibility of the act. You don't need to use the wrong definitions to emphasize that this is bad. We can all see that. D'uh.
Oh, and I looked it up: in Canada at least, negligently causing death is second degree murder, so I was wrong to say it's technically not murder.
@@js1817aggravated negligence.
No, you witnessed cops following their training,
They murdered him on camera and they laughed about it.
I will never ever again complain about the cops here in Germany, at least they dont kill you If you need help.
and the worst part, nothing will happen to them. there is no karma, no god, no justice in this world
Pleading for his life and THEY KILLED HIM!
The single GREATEST THREAT to the public safety are LAW ENFORCEMENT officers...
Strong and truthful statement.
Same 🧠 for 25 years
Wait, police are allowed to administer medicine?😊
@@carlcouslin7535 hey they’re very very professional don’t you know?
In 2011 I had a medical emergency and my wife made the mistake of calling 911. I ended up with THIRTY TWO charges, an involuntary commitment (cuz i freaked out when they drugged me) AND was fired from my job and EVICTED because the police went to MY EMPLOYER and lied about what happened (i worked for and lived at the same apartment complex) FYI i beat those charges but the treatment i received from the police left my life in shambles
This is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. They ended a man who had a medical condition in his own home and were sitting there laughing about it. Omg
Military mindset , they can erase you because you are deemed the enemy without the badge and everything they do is a claim for officer safety by murderers with immunity
They gave him drugs that stopped his breathing. They put him in a position that made breathing difficult. They pressed a knee against his back, which makes breathing difficult.
Who gave these monsters any authority to inject this man with anything
Exactly!! You’re 💯% spot on!! 😡
Good question!
We did...Why are you asking?Everything cops do, they do because WE ALLOW IT.
Your local politicians who want to control you and enslave you.
This is known as chemical restraint and it has killed many people already, highly problematic.
A great example of why police should not be allowed on the scene of a medical intervention. They are, at best, unqualified and, at worst, will react like the victim is a criminal.
"Position that wouldn't restrict his breathing" = overweight guy, prone, restrained, face in a pillow, three cops putting weight on his back, and EMTs administering an overdose of sedatives. I'd hate to see what they consider "restricting" if this is them not doing it. This was a cold blooded execution.
Not sedatives. Ketamine. An animal tranquilizer.
@@Yphrum ketamine is a sedative...
That’s why they kept talking to him because they were intentionally murdering him before our very eyes!
@@Yphrum What do you think tranquilizers are?
Ketamine is used to knock out mammals (mainly large) everything from horses, elephant seals, elephants, humans. It had other effects as well. It is a hallucinogen.
He's NOT a perp! He's a patient! These, "peace officers," can't understand this.
He's not complying.
@@phlodel
Yeah people having seizures tend not to.
@@phlodel I worked at a school for the handicapped. Seen all sorts of "episodes." They could have EASILY handled this better.
Every person is a PERP to modern day police.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
LET THAT SINK IN.
@@phlodelwtf is wrong with you…. like honestly, what the hell is wrong with you? why do you think that way?
I'm surprised they didn't charge the guy they killed with 5 felonies
Wait for it. They can still get Grandma.
right, they would have if he lived!
They did charge him.. Gave him the Death Penalty..
Stop resisting stop resisting!
They were having such a great time they must have forgot?
The guy literally pleaded for his life, literally begged and none of them acted appropriately. This was so hard to watch man🤦🏽♂️
As an RN. This case has a cut and dry. This boy had no clue what was going on. They had no business handcuffing or using a tazor on him. Them making a joke out of it. I wish to god I was on that trial. They have no business being first responders. This ticks me off. An unnecessary death!
There aren't as many professional RN'S as we use to have because of working conditions and low pay. I respect the RN'S we still have at hospitals
Also an RN. If one of us did any of that we probably wouldn’t have a license anymore, and very possibly in jail. They deserve no less.
TAZING SEIZURE VICTIMS!!! Is this really happening?
To die begging for your life while people laugh at you is horrible. They should all be held accountable.
If this was a group of civilians that had done that, they would all be in jail on murder charges now. This is disgraceful...
That's the kicker, police are just regular civilians with six weeks of officer safety classes.
OMG! So sad! Why couldn’t they let him stand up 😢
They all should be put in jail
1,000,000%
if someone doesnt get jail time for this then there is no justice
As a retired nurse practitioner, I was horrified at the treatment this poor man received. First, post tonic seizure, during the clonic phase is not the time to try to force a person to get medical care. It is the time to keep the patient calm while assessing the patient's condition. I thought I heard one of those deputies say something about a taser. Why would anyone taser a man who was just coming out of a seizure when the patient's brain is already scrambled? And why do EMT's have ketamine to administer. I know that use of that by EMT's is controversial & here we see why. All the emergency response people , law enforcement & medical should be held accountable for this poor man's death
Also concerning is the cops giving medical advice to the EMTs. Where did they get their medical degree??
Some states allow the use of ketamine for extreme agitation (4-5 mg/kg) But I highly doubt they'd allow it with Benadryl, Versed and Haldol. Indiana must have some very liberal med protocols or these guys completely went rogue!
Yeah at 8:00 you can hear them say no not the tazer again :(
One of those being contraindicated for epileptic patients....
This is sickening
These people killed this man
its murder plain and simple........this is worse than George floyd
I would be weary about calling them for anything nowadays!!
If this were a just world, all these first responders would be doing time. As he is dying, all he can hear is laughter. This is absolutely disgusting.
Agreed. However in a fair world, they would be dealt with accordingly.
This is intentional homicide. Firing line.
They always yell "Stop resisting" to make themselves the victims!
It's because the judges and judge magistrates mostly just listen or read the dialog so it makes then look good in the eyes of the judge's(if you want to call them that!) So they make off the cuff judgements instead of actually watching the videos from my understanding why they always yell out lies to cover them own asses!
Or to make them stop resisting when paramedics are trying to help them but can't because they are resisting, duh! 🙄
@@saxon1177 "DUH" is a perfect description of YOU!! 🤡
These cops need to be charged. They have no right to inject a man with substances.
EMS needs to be charged for the murder as well.
The "courts" say they can.
The officers didn't inject anything from what I could see.
@@mylt1z28 did you watch all of the unedited bodycam? I didn't; I was just going by their words.
Apparently, they do have a right. Hey, maybe his asthma killed him. Maybe the coroner will say that when he determines his cause of death.
Why are cops there?!? He needed medical attention! Not cops.
How did the police and EMTs do nothing wrong?! They sure did not do anything right!!
So having a seizure is a crime in the USA!?
That man needed an ambulance, not police brutality.
Trust me, I understand what you are saying, but the EMT guys won't take you if you unintentionally get violent. I know this because when I had a grand mal seizure, and became agitated, the EMT guys called the cops, and I had to be taken to the hospital in a paddy wagon in handcuffs. NurseJenn explained this a little better than I did. Whoever gave this man haloperidol (Haldol) apparently did not know that Haldol actually LOWERS the seizure threshold, and makes things worse.
Another video not long ago showed a man mishandled by a cop as he was coming out of a seizure. He was confused, and he wouldn't stop moving...
They FORCIBLY injected him with almost 2/3 of the LD50 for intramuscular ketamine. I call that murder.
He probably didn't even need an ambulance, that man needed to be left the hell alone like he demanded. If he's conscious and coherent and able to put pants and a shirt on and walk around and articulate that he refused to consent to medical treatment, then NOBODY has any right to forcibly render medical treatment. I've known a few people prone to seizures. Every last one of them made it abundantly clear to me that IN NO CIRCUMSTANCE was I to call 911 if they had a seizure unless they were literally not breathing and turning purple. The 4th Amendment was supposed to protect this guy's life.
@@lambda2857 in order to legally administer drugs like that you need to be certified in EMT/Paramedic training, they are absolutely 100% liable and KNEW what they were doing
He didn't want to go to the hospital, did you watch the video? They forced him to go, while injecting large doses of Ketamine into him. All the while, fighting seizures.
What a horrible death for that poor man who was abused and killed by those who should have been there to help him. Absolutely disgusting!
and you know they lied to the grandparents about it, and acted like everything they did was routine & normal
never under estimate a cops ability to escalate a situation that never needed to be escalated
why are they treating a medical patient like a suspect. sickening
I said like a criminal
It's all about money.
Well it didn't happen until AFTER assaulted the "medical unit"....
So there is that part....
@@mattlol163 I'm sure when it's your turn they will remember how well you licked their boots clean. That right there is job security.
For them we all are criminals until they “feel” otherwise
Over 30 years as a firefighter and paramedic I can honestly say this is beyond disturbing. This entire treatment was way outside of the protocols. Too much wrong here to say what is the worse part. The police definitely made everything worse. The medics are cowboys. Very unprofessional. Criminal potential. Definitely needs to review the protocols.
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The problem is the people here, the protocols are just standard ones.
You're right, it needs to be reviewed
100% agree
The police made the situations worse and those EMT's on scene completely failed at every aspect of their job that night. They should have been fired while the cops and firefighters at the least should have been reprimanded for their unprofessional attitudes.
Everyone at this call should be charged with second-degree murder. They euthanized this man in cold blood as he was under the detainment of multiple officers.
Exactly, all of them need time in prison.
Do you even know what euthanized means?
This is murder
are you kidding? First degree murder
life in prison
Do you know what euthanized means? At what point was he willing and gave concent to been injected? If he was not of sound mind who made the determination that the medications need to be used knowing he's not long had a seizure
He should have never committed the felony of having a seizure in your own home.
"I think he's fine."
Another missed diagnosis from Dr Piglet. Since when does the police academy award medical degrees?
Hope their lawyer asks them if they got their medical degrees off of TH-cam when he deposes them.
I'm thinking it's more that they were hoping they didn't fckd up.
It's part of police academy. One hour course. Comes with qualified immunity, so you can't do anything wrong.
My guess is they say stuff like this for the camera so that a judge and/or jury(who are already overly sympathetic towards cops and willing to dismiss any display of brutality as the cost of doing business) will view their actions as an honest misjudgement, rather than a deliberate and callous disregard for life.
@@verybighomer Oh, you mean that CPR class doesn't make you an MD? 😳
No cop should be injecting ANYTHING into someone. EVER. THIS IS DISGUSTING
I would feel safer a drug addict inject me with controlled drugs than a cop that maybe took a class. This is nuts😮
For some reason this seem so much worse than injuring someone with violence
When did they start allowing cops to administrate sedatives?
Elijah McClain too
Maybe when they started giving them Narcan.
WOW....lost count how many times they said “more meds”.....💯🤯This was ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!! We LITERALLY watched them ☠️him! They all need to be charged!
utube band the K word.
Judge Dread society we live in
Wonder how much ketamine they actually gave this guy. Probably the reason he died.
I agree. They sedated this poor man until he could no longer breathe. Murder.
Paramedics have no business pushing k. They aren't qualified to properly assess patients for sedation, and they don't carry the proper equipment to do so even if they were.
I am a retired police investigator and EMT and the paramedic student administered (3) rounds of Ketamine (depressant) 100 per round. This is over medication and they never put him on a cardiac monitor.
If a grown man doesn't want medical attention, why would it be forced on him? This was stupid. It was murder.
It illegal to force medical treatment on anyone including life saving aid. If they refuse medical treatment and are of sound mind and body then medical personnel have to follow their wishes.
Ive dealt with some seizure patients in the past and it can take several minutes for them to become aware of what is happening. I had to fight an inmate one time after he had a seizure in his cell. Not a fun experience. But I didn't go out of my way to hurt him either. I restrained him until he stopped fighting and relaxed. My lieutenant wanted me to write a case on him but I refused because I knew the situation.
These officers and paramedics are absolute garbage for this.
In med school they teach you how to deal with someone having a seizure and what will likely happen afterwards. These paramedics didn't give a shit.
@@Truckerdaddy my husband in the icu. We were told he could not consent to surgery because he had pain meds thay gave him in his system... yet, that night he coded because he wouldn't wear an oxygen mask after becoming hypoxic. So he was not coherent for surgery but was to refuse a mask... he coded
Here’s the problem with most police officers, they think whatever they do, think of is ok. Even if they don’t know, it’s a mindset of my authority supersedes whatever else is going on. This why body cams were fought against
@goodolearkygal5746 most pain meds they give are narcotics that inhibits clear thoughts. So that's how you end up in that predicament.
What should've been set up was a power of attorney/authority. Generally the spouse is the default decision of the one getting medical attention.
If they are confused then they can not refused in most states.
You don't give ketamine to a seizure patient, it's literally a major contraindication!
Why are they giving ketamine before asking what meds he’s on?
What in the absolute F? I have never seen anything like this before - what in the world with injecting medication?!!
Don't worry it's policy! And they will make light of it and call you crazy for questioning their drugs
They really scrape the bottom of the barrel when they look for EMTs/paramedics these days
Ketamine is a medication that doctors use as an anesthetic to induce loss of consciousness. Under the Controlled Substances Act, health experts consider ketamine a schedule III non-narcotic substance.
They should all be fired just for laughing during a medical emergency. It shows they’re not professional enough to handle the job.
In what world would you taser someone that is having a seizure???? They didn’t care if he lived or died.
Had a licensed physician or other medical practitioner done this they would probably be accused of murder and be sitting in a jail cell awaiting trial. But government actors practicing "street medicine" ...no liability. They will investigate themselves and find nothing wrong. Maybe the taxpayers foot the lawsuit bill.
Government tools*
No doubt, a nurse or orderly would be facing criminal charges under the exact same conditions. But then they receive training to avoid such situations, police and EMTs do not.
No doubt they over medicated and probably suffocated him. Sedatives suppress the central nervous system and slow the breathing.
Aren't you keeping track of how many shots? Ohh, I thought YOU were keeping count? uhh,ohh... Do you know CPR? No, I though YOU knew CPR... Nope ...bummer
While I agree with your sentiment, unfortunately medical malpractice resulting in death or physical harm happen every day but the insurance companies representing doctors and hospitals have lobbied for laws that make it EXTREMELY difficult to report a doctor to the medical boards. Medical malpractice lawsuits are capped at $250k and take years to complete. Even after a doctor has been legally sanctioned, hospitals are not allowed to report to other hospitals what has occurred when the doctor moves to a different facility, and there is no publicly available database reporting what patients have experienced.
I'm a former surgical tech and saw this happening firsthand. There are hundred of horror stories of surgeons jumping hospitals and leaving a wake of malpractice. One surgeon was killing people for over a decade before the police were finally able to get involved. In general, the police avoid pursuing these cases cuz they have no medical training and the doctors and hospitals have powerful insurance groups and law firms representing them. It is VERY difficult to get a doctor's license revoked. I worked with a few that were terrifying but my reporting meant nothing since their patients weren't dying.
All cops should have to buy and carry malpractice insurance. All settlements should come out of their insurance company and the police pension.
This is horrific!!! Everyone on this call should be sitting in a jail cell awaiting trial for murder. As a former EMT my heart cries for this family.
None of them deserve jail. Just more taxpayer expense. I'm sure someone could be found who would happily donate the appropriate services.
That's not how it works. At most it would be involuntary manslaughter.
I have epilepsy and I tell everybody if I have a seizure as long as I'm still breathing do not call the cops or ambulance and this is the reason why.
That's smart.
That's an incredibly sad reality for you. Smart move.
Lucky for some I have to get medics called to mine. Some can go for over an hour/s
Same last time I had a bad seizure my people knew to drive me straight to the hospital and that’s where I woke up. This poor guy…..There’s no words
Same for my wife. They still always call.
You can see him stumble, and the medic never moved or reacted as if he was trying to hit him. Their pathetic liars, as usual.
Since when do police have any authority to inject anything in anyone?
*NEVER* ! ! !
This Police Department needs to be referred to DOJ. This was murder.
The same DOJ trying to murder other citizens? No. It’s time to form a citizens board of review. Not one controlled by the government but outside the government. Does anyone even remember how our founding fathers laid out their claims and then were willing to use force?
This is a murder caught on video. Hopefully all these scumbags will be held accountable.
There was no reason to not leave him alone like he asked.
The last people you want to call in an emergency is the police.
AMEN
poor option when u have only one number for both... and stupid ppl on the other end ... and in a small town nothings going on it seems like US police seems like to be the first gossiping karens ...
No shit!
They didn't call the police.
@@matfax right they called 911 a number for police and medical help ...
Any sheriff defending any of these criminals should immediately be recalled as well as sued
Holy crap they drugged him to death, with his face in a pillow. This is frightening, the fact the killers think they did nothing wrong is insanity. And the laughing at a medical emergency is criminal.
Clearly it was premeditated. They have no conscience
Their supervisor also believes they did nothing wrong. Let that sink in. This is what we are dealing with here. Not "bad cops", but evil in action.
@@jasonshults368 Yeah this was straight up evil, we all just watched a snuf film.
These cops need to go to prison! They are idiots!
No matter what situation, Cops treat everyone like criminals.
Sadly true.
By the way, have you ever looked into the studies about law enforcement personnel and perpetration of domestic violence?
It always amazes me, when someone is having a medical issue - the cops all huddle around, they don't give the victim air or room to breathe, they all have to huddle over and watch, and make the situation worse. Government isn't out to help anyone.
And if all that isn’t bad enough, their laughing and joking makes it all the more disgusting.
@@Rpm6971 10000000000000000000000000%
*I don't think they are just huddling around. It looked like they were putting their body weight on the subject, and making it difficult (or impossible) to breathe.*
@LawernceSimmons, yeah, you can't stop a heart from a distance. You really gotta get in there and get involved!
Pigdogs arent pigdogs because they're smart. In fact, i hear they don't even let smart folks *be* pigdogs.
Every one of them should get the same help they gave.
The first time I saw this I was so disgusted. They executed him with grins on their faces while he cried that he was going to die. And of course…zero accountability.
Anything less than prison for these idiots, is a travesty.
QUIT CALLING POLICE!!!!! I’m scared to even call 911 for a fire because the police will show up!
In a civilised country, if someone rings the recognised emergency number, the caller is asked 'Police, fire or ambulance?' If an ambulance is requested, the caller is put through to a medically competent person and, after a quick assessment of the request, an ambulance is sent. The Police DO NOT show up. In the USA, which in most respects is a civilised country, the police are not medically competent and should therefore NOT attend unless the ambulance is required due to a crime having been committed. Even then, the patient is not their responsibility. This video is evidence that the police in the USA will always make a situation worse than it is or needs to be. Reform of the procedure is required to prevent this type of thing occurring again.
All I see is a bunch of sick psychopaths murdering another innocent man.
Thank god when i had a seizure, no police came and only paramedics. They didnt drug me they immediately took me to the hospital. Im sorry for this man who got unlucky getting the cops.
If you need medical help, don’t call the police.
You call 911 police are part of first response.
In 2011 I had a medical emergency and my wife made the mistake of calling 911. I ended up with THIRTY TWO charges, an involuntary commitment (cuz i freaked out when they drugged me) AND was fired from my job and EVICTED because the police went to MY EMPLOYER and lied about what happened (i worked for and lived at the same apartment complex) FYI i beat those charges but the treatment i received from the police left my life in shambles
get him in a car and take him or her yourself. I remember holding my brother down in the back seat with mom while dad drove to the Hospital after taking Angel Dust
@@mybuu5988 Don't call 911... simple. Get in the car and drive to the doctor. You wouldn't walk in the post office and order a cheeseburger.... don't call cops if your need medical attention.
The lack of empathy now days is disgusting. People are lost.
They served and protected the life out of him
They protected him from medical bills and watching this country slip further into a police state every day