You do t care about your subscribers! Recommending a site that pay peanuts for GPUs! Then they sell it for 4 times the price! A 6700 they offer 90$ ? Fu..k y.ou
Rdna2 was such an incredible generation. We are all poorer that AMD couldn't maintain their competitiveness. Hoping they can get things in order for rdna4
hey well dont feel too bad that card is still holding up to play most newer games still at high settings. I played hogwarts legacy, all the Resident evil remakes, cyberpunk, etc. I couldve probably used it for another year or so before upgrading as well, but my brother upgraded from his 2070 to a 4070 so I got his old card and gave my 1070 to a friend. About to upgrade to a 6800 and give the 2070 to another friend.
Same thing here. Super happy with my RX 6800. Miss DLSS tho, but there is no Nvidia alternative that's worth it at the moment... RTX 3080 already running into VRAM issues.
Yeah, I got mine for 480AUD (310USD). Could be mined for all I care, it's such a cheap upgrade that as long as it last me till next gen, I'll be happy.😊
Me too. I got mine for $267. Previous owner had had it for 2 years, but the card itself is barely dusty. Definitely the best purchase I've made this year.
@@bw-mx1dy Found a deal and was sick of games that the GPU itself would be capable of running very well stuttering because of the vram limitations at 1440p
Honestly, the period where the RX6800 was heavily discounted was such an amazing time to upgrade. Even to this day, the RX7700XT is similarly priced to what I bought my RX6800 for here in Sweden, 9 months ago. And I still got more VRAM, less power draw, less heat. When giving the card a -100mV undervolt, it goes down to 120-140W... that's 6600XT territory and you barely loose performance. Amazing piece of hardware.
Still in love with my RX6800 16GB Absolutely the perfect high end card during the high GPU pricing towards the end. The 6800XT was always sold out or overpriced but I got mine at MSRP instead of a 3070. At the time when I made the purchase I was almost bummed out but was wary of only 8GB on a card that I would've had to pay over a THOUSAND DOLLLARS FOR. So at 50% of the price at that time, I still have DOUBLE VRAM today. It never gets old, having twice as much VRAM. Apparently having half the VRAM DID get old, pretty damn fast too.
I find it very weird that Nvidia had apparently planned to make a 16GB version (which would have been called the 3070 ti), but then cancelled it, and then even the 4070 ti and 4070 were designed with only 12GB of vram as well, and they still made an 8GB version of the 4060 ti too.
I had a Reference RX 6800 that I bought on release nearly 3 years ago. Great card will still very viable today. I wanted an aftermarket card that would be silent and got the The Red Devil 7800 XT. If you can get more VRAM with your GPU
Keep in mind that in Starfield, the only place where your FPS is going to take a considerable hit is populated cities. In almost all other parts of the game you're going to see high to very high FPS (especially indoors or in caves, space stations etc.). So if you're getting around 50 FPS in cities, you're going to see upwards of 80 to 100 FPS in other parts of the game. My overall average is 115 to 125 FPS while only achieving high 65 FPS in cities.
I capped mine to 60fps. (Using v-sync and monitor refresh @ 60hz) Having a consistent experience was more enjoyable (not that I liked the game much anyway)
@@christinaedwards5084 was starting to think I was alone in this understanding!...i think most people's eyeballs just don't comprehend what they're actually seeing...a vsync'd 60fps/hz (with bfi in my case) looks like buttery smooth 160fps motion clarity
@@Beast-mf7br it doesn’t feel the same 😂 higher fps is definitely superior for smoothness on condition it’s consistent. Uncapped, some places I’m 120+ fps , others 72fps, one minute you games silky, next it’s juddery. 50+ frames was a lot to lose and no amount of sync technology can mask that. Some moments it was almost like a slideshow outside in cydonia for me. We can also add on my computer sounded like an F22 raptor with full afterburner. It was HOT. I did find 60fps with keyboard and mouse also feels considerably worse than with a control pad. So I opted for 60fps, and control pad. Smooth, good temps, low noise. It made no sense to have it running on max. Dropped my power consumption by over 150w too. Now if only I could find the desire to actually play 😂. I find this game really dull 😢
@@christinaedwards5084 ya I always play these types on controller, feels way more immersive imo....but ya, it's all about finding that stable 60 or 100 or 120 fps minimum for me, for Starfield i dialled in the settings to get a minimum 60fps in places like new atlantis, turn on vsync, then bfi on high is where the magic happens!....I hear ya though, played it for a few days then dropped it to tinker with Cyberpunk!
True. I think one issue is that a lot of retailers can't afford to buy enough AMD graphics cards because they don't realize that the local demand for AMD cards will be high enough, or because the local demand actually isn't high enough. A lot of retailers don't necessarily have any idea whether or not a given AMD graphics card will sell well, and they might be forced to agree to buy a bunch of different products, rather than just the ones they think will sell well.
@@EhEhEhEINSTEIN I think that's because they don't report power the same way. Basically, the 6000 series is under-reporting power usage for some reason. I think the 7700 XT probably uses less power actually. The 6800 is still the better product though. The power consumption difference isn't big enough to matter. If you REALLY care about power consumption for some specific reason, then you probably want to get yourself a 16GB 4060 ti or an RTX 4070 instead. The 7800 XT definitely uses significantly less power than the 6800 XT, at least when comparing reference model to reference model.
@@syncmonism Thanks for that tidbit about them reporting differently, I had no idea. I'm sticking with my 2080 for the foreseeable future as it's more than enough for the games I play but eventually a game will come out that piques my interest enough to warrant an upgrade.
I’m in awe that the higher end RDNA 2 cards have comparable viability to their RDNA 3 counterparts AND the offerings provided by Nvidia for the low and mid ranges. I’m at the point where I can buy a RX 6950 XT in lieu of a 7900 XT with only mild regret (which I’ll end up doing by the way). This generation of cards has been sobering to say the least.
well just a suggestion: RDNA3 cards are chiplet based, so it will take some time to mature properly. RDNA2 cards are great due to there software maturity. If i was you deciding between 6950xt or 7800xt so i would choose 7800xt, because simply it is newer technology, gives FPS same or better than 6950xt, will have future driver support, and it will mature with time. 7900xt is also a viable option if you can stretch your budget.
@@andrestrevino8119 yeah, because 7800xt is newer , it is based on chiplet technology, has RDNA3, and more upcoming exclusive feature and yet alone it draws less power. so why would you choose last gen gpus..?
Nice pointing this out Daniel! 6800 clearance pricing is insane right now. Grab it while you still can if this is your budget! The moment they are gone the 7700XT will be $399 gauranteed.
Hi Daniel. On the content creation side, the codec units in the RX 7000 series are 75% faster than the RX 6000 series in regards to h.264 footage in my testing with PugetBench for DaVinci Resolve Studio. If someone uses the card for both gaming and video editing, the 6800 XT may not be an optimal choice. I'll use the 7900 XTX and 7800 XT vs. 6800 XT example since I don't have the 7700 XT on hand. DaVinci Resolve Studio 4K H.264 Decode to H.264 Re-Encode 6800 XT: 110 fps in Resolve Studio version 18.6 7800 XT: 192.19 fps in Resolve Studio version 18.5.1 7900 XTX: 192.09 fps in Resolve Studio version 18.6 As you can see, the 7000 series cards I tested are 75% faster than the 6800 XT with that type of footage but the 7900 XTX is within the margin of error relative to the 7800 XT. That is to say that the differences are due to the new architecture rather than their relative clock speed or VRAM in that particular test. I haven't tested the 7700 XT but given that information, it would likely be closer to the 7800 XT than the 6800 XT in that respect.
@@jesusbarrera6916 The 7800 XT has overall been faster in my video editing tests than the 4070 and the additional VRAM has been helpful when editing 8K. So no, unlike with 3D modeling applications, there is not currently an Nvidia advantage in video editing. Things changed a lot in the last year and which card is best for you personally depends a lot on which file formats you work most with and whether or not you do a lot of work in Fusion (either in Resolve or standalone) where the AMD cards have a major performance advantage.
I just realized I was vague about the advantage in the Fusion compositing module. 7800 XT scored 38% higher than the 4070 in that PugetBench section, 705 vs 510. The 4070 scored closer to the 3060 (465) than it did to the 7800 XT in that respect. My 4070 is great for my Blender work but for video editing, the 7800 XT is the one I prefer to use. The main issue that AMD had at the time of the 7800XT launch was that they had a different driver set for the 7700 and 7800 series from the 6800 XT and 7900 XTX, so I can't use it in dual card mode in Resolve like my other AMD and Nvidia cards right now.
04:19 7700 XT runs aprx. 20°C cooler than 6800 and this is quite impressive, especially considering that in the past AMD cards were usually installed as heaters in some homes.
While that's true, it also was consistently drawing an average of 25W more. It could be down to individual models, but you would consistently be saving up on your bills with an RX6800. I was honestly surprised that it runs cooler at a bigger power draw, probably a bit overbuilt fans on that particular model.
I think AMD was focusing on the fact that it's a way better deal than the 4060Ti but they forgot that their own models are an even better option. I think at 399 or 379 it could be really good, but it'll probably be a while before that happens
Just discovered your channel. Was shopping for a customer's build and was considering this exact comparison - ended up going with the RX 6800 because I got it for $330. I run a small computer shop in alabama and I aspire to produce videos like this
got asrock 6800 at february around 290usd(4,5m idr) from friend that upgrade to 4080, its still very good card for 34" WUHD monitor and never use more than 200w
Got rx 6800 open box from newegg for $320 in November 2022 and it has been great! Never had an issue with it and the 16gb is the cherry on top, Callisto protocol 120 fps 1440p max settings no RT used looks great compared to my old 1080p set up (rx 6600)
So glad I went with a 6800. Got it new for $400 in April. Undervolted and Overclocked. It does RT in many games well. In R&C you can play 1440p max settings with All RT settings at high and changing the RT range to 4 it will get 60fps.
I played both Spiderman games with Ray Tracing to 60 stables 1440p with FSR Q. But I'd rather create an 80% base resolution in drivers and use RSR since 80% of 1440p upscaled to 1440p looks fine to me and is smoother thsn FSR Q
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216it's not underestimation But it's just not made for rt 2080 ti beats 6800 in rt Which is plain gimmick as 2080 ti is cheaper/same price as 6800 If you want ray tracing get a 7800xt or 3070 ti
@Birdman._. idk why that's so crazy. Nvidia 2019 flagship vs 2020 amd upper mid range. Yeah you can find a cheap used 2080ti, but that doesn't mean the 6800 is a bad value. The rt performance actually isn't that far off between them except in maybe cyberpunk where it's an nvidia showcase.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 to be completely honest I've come to completely regret get the 6800. The poor TAA in the vast majority of games has me really missing DLSS/DLAA. The fact that DLSS Q is less blurred, has better fine detail retention and less shimmering than native means while I get better fps now, I got better image quality with the RTX a2000 that my daughter now has. Only looking at average fps raster performance benchmarks was a huge mistake. Should have thought of real world use case. I would be getting way better image quality and performance with a 3080 using dlss Q. Not to mention, RT is really starting to look good now. And I won't always be able to turn it off. We already have a game that uses it as it's only source of global lighting. Meaning it can't be turned off.
Wait for the 7700xt to drop in price and replace the 6700xt as the "value king". The 7700xt is currently pointless since it's so close in price to the 7800xt. Good video.
The 6800 is definitely likely to be the better buy for the long-term, even if they are both the same price. The 6800's vram advantage is likely to matter a lot more 2-3 years from now, and I would think that most people buying these cards today would likely be keeping them for AT LEAST 3 years, if not longer, before upgrading again.
my only concern about buying the 6800 is that its a 3 year old card, i feel like it just wont stack eventually... also, its had 3 years of driver optimizations
@@xythrr I think the 6800 isn't even sold brand-new anymore. Either save your money and go for the 6700 XT or spend more on the 6800 XT/7800 XT. That would surely be my advice.
@@leanlifter1 12GB is the proper amount of VRAM for the performance of this GPU today. In a few years, VRAM requirements will surely increase, and the extra 4GB of VRAM will matter. Extra VRAM doesn't make a card faster, but lacking sufficient VRAM can certainly make it slower.
I bought a barely used MSI 6800xt for $600 AUD ($385 USD) a few weeks ago. Happy with my purchase as I think it'll be a long while before the 7700xt comes down to that price here, let alone the 7800xt. The current cheapest 7700xt is $769 AUD ($495 USD) and the current cheapest 7800xt is $879 AUD ($565 USD).
I noticed the same thing... card prices in Canada are a little insane at the moment, and often the only midrange cards in stock under $800 or so are AMD or massively overpriced 3060s. 6800 seems like the closest to a deal, unless I want to go the cheap route and grab a decent bang for buck 8GB performer like the 7600 or A750 and turn settings to medium / low. To be clear, any of those would be a big upgrade for me.
So the 6800 is more power effecient(by alittle), much more VRAM and better frames at some moments. Unfortunately the card doesn't exist in my country and nor does it on websites where i dont get ripped off. So I thought screw it ill just get the 7700XT. It's new and should be fine for many years....... Upgrading from a 1660 TI 6gb card
As a owner of the salvors pulse Rx 6800 it’s the best made gpu of that generation everything under it amd wise runs on a different chip it runs so cool and is such a beast let alone for the price I paid sheeesh !
If you overclock both GPUs. The rx 7700 xt comes on top, the only situation where the rx 6800 is better, is when you are Vram limited. The games i play usually use 6 to 10 GB of Vram, so rx 7700xt is a better option
I was considering the RX 6800, but it's about 10-15% more expensive than the 7700 XT where I live. But at 399, I wouldn't think twice before buying it! Great video by the way, really helping me out in choosing the best card for my budget!
Okay, but even at 399, the 7800 XT for 499 is about 22% faster, with 33% more vram and significantly more memory bandwidth for 25% more money. Within the scope of the cost of the entire system, that's really not a lot extra to pay, especially if we assume that most people are probably not going to upgrade their card for another 4 years or more. The extra vram doesn't matter much yet, but it will definitely become a lot more useful before the end of that 4 year period.
I got lucky. Best Buy has the 6800 for $389 right now. Had $55 dollars in coupons my mom wasn't going to use. $335 for that card. Absolute steal. I was so mad because i was broke during Black Friday due to car issues. Then i got a promotion and Christmas bonus. Saw this card with those coupons. I jumped on it.
The RX 6800 has much better power efficiency than the RX 7700 XT, even though it is from an earlier generation. In my opinion the RX 6800 is superior and worth the money.
Nanite, Lumen and FSR/DLSS all requires memory. Unreal Engine 5's Matrix demo wanted memory. The choice is easy, RX 6800 16gb is the obvious winner. Also, lets encourage GPU's manufacturing companies to increase the memory on these cards by purchasing GPUs with the most memory over newer GPU's that have similar rationalization performance with less memory.
Interesting difference in overall temperatures and power draw. I think this is down to those individual models/make, as the fans of the RX 7700 XT must be overbuilt to consistently draw 25W more to keep it that cool. You would be generally saving up on your electric bill while still getting a very reasonable working temperature with the 6800 if this is an average user case, though. I for one got an RX6800 maybe 5 months before 7700 XT released, so it feels rather good to feel like my purchase was justified. I mean, sure, he mentions at the end (and during some benchmarks I skipped, guilty lol) that the power draw is actually closer, but without actual data to support it we don't know how much closer.
The deciding factor for me is usually how long the graphics cards will receive driver support. I have a bad feeling that they'll stop updating the 6800 before the 7700xt, even though the 6800 is better.
AMD don't do that, AMD supports Linux users better than Nvidia and update their open-source drivers regularly unlike Nvidia. If and at some point stop updating for Linux, then there will be other contributors who continue it.
Does Immortals of Aveum Ultra preset use Lumen for reflections, ao, and shadows or just GI? Likewise, does the high preset in Layers of Fear use Lumen for more than GI? Just curious as I do not have either game.
i was planning to buy RX7700XT as its within my budget but after watching soo many videos . im soo annoyed that people suggesting get the 6800 instead , here in india 6800 doesn't exists its off the market and the people who are selling it are double triple the base price .
I'm noticing that the non-xt cards are usually really good with not generating too much heat. I'm seeing the same heat sink and same fans as would be on the XT version for less watts. The 6800 is about the same but with more memory and better thermals for less money than 7700 XT.
7700XT (TLOU) averaging 220w and at times slightly lower fps than 6800XT at ~180w and at times slightly higher fps ….. and comes in at a cheaper price w/ 16gb vram compared to 7700XT 12GB ….. I’d get the 6800XT imo 😇🤯😉🥰💪
@@mgk-metalgearkelly5054the same way 8 gigs is the bare minimum now. But with the rate games are becoming harder to run, things will go bad much quicker.
is it just me or the power consumption of the 7700xt is higher than the rx6800 in all games? the fps is pretty similar but the power draw is so different, although even having higher power usage the rx7700xt is way colder compared to the rx6800
He mentions the possible reason near the end of the video, stating the two cards don't report power draw via software in the same way, but in reality they use a similar amount of power. :)
I'd be a bit shocked if the 7700 doesn't drop to $400 USD for Black Friday. As many reviewers have already noted it makes a lot more sense at that price. You have to do some mental gymnastics to justify $450 when compared against the 4060 ti 16GB @ $450 and 6800 @ $420.
I bought a Newegg open box Rx 6800 asrock phantom card for $320 6 months ago and it has been amazing at 1440p high settings and cool temps I got somewhat lucky took a chance
I've been following your videos for some weeks now and yesterday my RTX 4070 has died ... It was a superb card and RT in Cyberpunk 2077 looks great. But if I wanted to buy a new RTX 4070 now, I would pay 50 € more and for 600 € I do not find the price to performance really attractive anymore. Now I saw a new RX 6800 for 455 € and I think to myself, for my needs that could be absolutely enough and after I saw your video I'm actually tempted to buy it.
Just got my hands on a discounted AORUS RX 6800 new for 400€. Very happy with my choice. Unfortunately and RX 6800XT is 499. The RX 7700XT is 460, so the discounted RX 6800 was a no brainer
i got a deal on a asrock phantom 6800xt on ebay for $360- 410 w/tax total to upgrade from 3070. i play at 1440p and am fine adjusting quality and could care less about ray tracing. wanted this card since it came out bc of vram to pair w 5900x. gonna swap out in the next day or two and will update:
I wish AMD made a miniITX version of either card. 2 slot, 195mm or shorter. I’m looking at the 4060 basically as the most powerful card for my portable build.
LoL no, there's a reason why is that big and is temps, cards get too hot. 4000 series from Nvidia are reaaaally cool, they could do a 4070/4070ti low profile for sure.
I wonder if it's my 5700g or 16gb sys ram holding my undervolted powercolor fighter rx6800 back ? My 1% lows frequently drops to 40+ fps. I have certainly never gotten the kind of performance as shown in the above benchmarks. FSR or even very low preset has no impact at all.
That's been my issue since I got my 1080 Ti. None of the gpu's around 200-300 really compete in terms of vram. I saw a 6700 xt 10gb for like 299 at best buy but that's still less vram.
hi thank you for this video! i not shure what to buy need advice please i for the games i play like COD warzone (will be getting cod mw3 to) ,bf 2042 i tend not to play online games on full gfx settings only 1080p i currently have rtx 2060 super and it not giving me inough fps in warzone about 120 max on low settings im after one of thease cards am swaying towards the rx 7700 xt (frame generation tech?) need 144 fps capped for smooth gameplay can i have some advice please ? (pc ryzen 5 5600x @4.7ghz 32gig ram ,m2 ssd) do i need 16 gig gfx ram with the low medium settings i use ?
I'm using my 6800 since Novembre 2020 and it's still qute good in 2K but, after almost 3 years, seening the same performance (also in RT) at more or less the same price (and less vram) is quite horrible. Rdna3 is quite a failure.
In the EU at around 400€ the RX6800 is obviously the best option. No better price performance out there. It is quite, cool, has 16GB, top 1440 perf, even UHD most of the time. Imao it has long life in it like the old 1080TI 11GB had.
6800 doesnt measure its complete power consumption, unlike 7700xt. This has been explained plenty of times and video after video, people are not aware yet.
You should already be aiming for 16GB+ of VRAM. Although future games might not properly utilise it, it's better to have it, and not need it. At some point, there are going to be 20GB VRam games, and you could either play it at a stuttery 20fps or a flowing 40-50fps
Dec 5, 2023. A GPU buyer can get a 6800 for $30 more than a 7700XT. He could even get a 6800XT, which smokes the 7700XT across the board, for $50 more. Or he could spend just $60 more and get a 7800XT, roughly equal to the 6800XT but with AV1. That's not nothing, and could be significant to some buyers, but realistically, all one has to do is skip one evening at the pub to buy a 7800XT over the 7700XT. I'd spend the $60 and get the 7800XT, no question.
U could even overclock the rx 6800 to 2600mhz i wouldnt be a problem with thermals as my modell the SWFT 319 just hovers around 56-57 degrees and gets like 5-10% more fps than i would left it non overclocked
But in the EU and other countries the 7700 XT is cheaper than a 6800 which makes the 7700 XT a better option. Also the 7700 XT is better in terms of the longer support on the 7700 XT, you get warranty and you get the extra AMD features like DP 2.1, AV 1 encoding and HDMI 2.1.
It’s bs that i couldnt even find 6800xt at a cheaper price but i use the heck out of my rtx by using moonlight so I don’t think i would of had such much mileage from an amd card; the market in the Midwest just isn’t willing to cut a good deal if buying used
i wish i could get exited about that, but once you have a gpu like a 6700 xt... imo 7700xt isnt really worth the upgrade, its hard to get exited for any gpu honestly...until some more years pass.
Hi, my rx 6800 swft 319 card in farcry primal game reaches 90 degrees in hot spot, highest settings. I wanted to ask if this is normal and what temperatures this card should have? I didn't do any UV or OC.
For hotspot temps that's totally fine. Anything below 110c is technically ok because that's the point where the GPU will thermal throttle, so a hotspot temp below 100c is decent and around 90c is just about ideal as long as your GPU fans aren't pegged at 100% to get there.
I forgot to mention more vram and you can easilyyyyyy OC and under volt it by a lotttt I run it at 2400 - mem -2100 and under volt too -900 easy stable on everything I’ve ever thrown at it swear to god
The thing nobody mentions in the VRAM argument is that by the time your card is running out of VRAM for new games, it might well be unable to run those games well anyway for a variety of other reasons, including future tech such as the tessellation or ray-tracing of the future. So it only really matters in that time window where the card is good enough in every other respect except that it's running out of VRAM and it's affecting frame rates significantly. Another way of thinking about it from the standpoint of a value-seeking consumer (for me games are the hobby not sick PC builds), how much does "future-proofing" the VRAM actually extend the usable life of the GPU before you're gonna replace it anyway? I've had my GTX 1060 6GB for 5 years now, and at 1440p QHD it can't run anything demanding anymore. Did I buy myself an extra year or two by paying a premium over the 3GB version, or would I have had essentially the same good performance in undemanding games and the same bad performance in demanding ones? I've been building PCs for 15 years and most of my attempts at future-proofing (everything from SLI to timing CPU socket generations) don't really end up paying off in the end for one reason or another. You pay a premium up front (which you could instead invest for a return) and hope to recoup the cost with slower depreciation and lower cost per year. Unless you gain a lot of years, you might be better off saving money buying better value and rebuilding more frequently. The other advantage of this is that you spend less time at the tail of your power curve, sacrificing settings to squeeze more time out of your components, and you get to spend more time with newly refreshed stuff that's more likely to work well with contemporary games.
Except as TLOU benchmark shows, "the time your card is running out of VRAM for new games" is a few months ago and that game runs at 70 fps on a RX 6800. So you aren't "future proofing" you are "now proofing"
Ive said it numerous times before....Satisfactory is unreal Engine 5 (5.1 atm, 5.2 soon) as well. Uses Lumen and Nanite, no VSM. The games you always, and only test, arent the only UE5 games to play right now. Doesn't matter if fully released or not, that argument is a non starter. UE5 is UE5.
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Dude they just offered me $90 for my 6600XT.
You do t care about your subscribers! Recommending a site that pay peanuts for GPUs! Then they sell it for 4 times the price! A 6700 they offer 90$ ? Fu..k y.ou
@@OffTheRailGaming Such a steal! No, literally. Like actual theft
@@therealwhite I should have clarified, it was $90 CAD lol.
They're practically the same, and with 6800, you get 16 gigs of VRAM. The choice is clear. Great video, Daniel.
6800 also offers higher memory bandwidth. Taking into account both of these factors, 6800 will definitely age better.
@@stangamer1151 agreed
Rdna2 was such an incredible generation. We are all poorer that AMD couldn't maintain their competitiveness. Hoping they can get things in order for rdna4
also 6800 uses 30w-40w less power
@@Mark-kr5go AMD is still price competitive with options ranging from around 260 to 950 USD
I still can't believe during 2020 I sold my 1070 for 600$. I'm a monster.
I sold my 3060ti (bought for 500) and sold it for 1000 usd 2 months later :)
what he doesnt tell us... he bought a rtx 3070 for 1400
hey well dont feel too bad that card is still holding up to play most newer games still at high settings. I played hogwarts legacy, all the Resident evil remakes, cyberpunk, etc. I couldve probably used it for another year or so before upgrading as well, but my brother upgraded from his 2070 to a 4070 so I got his old card and gave my 1070 to a friend. About to upgrade to a 6800 and give the 2070 to another friend.
@@igk916your friends are lucky
Anyone that rips people off on card prices are just pathetic
Lack of a 2 slot 7700XT pushed me to an older used 6800. Turns out it was a blessing in disguise.
Faster card with more memory so a win win. Also somewhat difficult to find 7700/7800XT cards for msrp or even in stock.
two slot 6800? what model? how are thermals?
I think the point was that either way it was going to be more than 3 slots, and one is cheaper.
@@AlexandruT1987XFX, they even have a 2 slot 6950 XT
@@AlexandruT1987also: amd reference. Perfect for my Loque Ghost S1
I’m so glad that I managed to find a (barely) used 6800 for £350. Came with all the original packaging as well, couldn’t be any more happier
Same thing here. Super happy with my RX 6800. Miss DLSS tho, but there is no Nvidia alternative that's worth it at the moment... RTX 3080 already running into VRAM issues.
I managed to pick up a 6800 XT for just 300€, probably the best deal I have ever done
Yeah, I got mine for 480AUD (310USD). Could be mined for all I care, it's such a cheap upgrade that as long as it last me till next gen, I'll be happy.😊
Me too. I got mine for $267. Previous owner had had it for 2 years, but the card itself is barely dusty. Definitely the best purchase I've made this year.
Pretty expensive for used tbh
I love my 6800. It was a surprising upgrade over my 3060ti
Ditto.
I am in the same boat rn, 3060ti holding up but i do fancy an upgrade without having to spend loads to stay w nvidia
Just curious, why did you "upgrade" within the same generation?
@@bw-mx1dy Found a deal and was sick of games that the GPU itself would be capable of running very well stuttering because of the vram limitations at 1440p
I was stunned upgrading from a 3060 to a 3080 10 gig
Honestly, the period where the RX6800 was heavily discounted was such an amazing time to upgrade. Even to this day, the RX7700XT is similarly priced to what I bought my RX6800 for here in Sweden, 9 months ago. And I still got more VRAM, less power draw, less heat. When giving the card a -100mV undervolt, it goes down to 120-140W... that's 6600XT territory and you barely loose performance. Amazing piece of hardware.
Still in love with my RX6800 16GB Absolutely the perfect high end card during the high GPU pricing towards the end. The 6800XT was always sold out or overpriced but I got mine at MSRP instead of a 3070. At the time when I made the purchase I was almost bummed out but was wary of only 8GB on a card that I would've had to pay over a THOUSAND DOLLLARS FOR. So at 50% of the price at that time, I still have DOUBLE VRAM today. It never gets old, having twice as much VRAM. Apparently having half the VRAM DID get old, pretty damn fast too.
I find it very weird that Nvidia had apparently planned to make a 16GB version (which would have been called the 3070 ti), but then cancelled it, and then even the 4070 ti and 4070 were designed with only 12GB of vram as well, and they still made an 8GB version of the 4060 ti too.
I had a Reference RX 6800 that I bought on release nearly 3 years ago. Great card will still very viable today. I wanted an aftermarket card that would be silent and got the The Red Devil 7800 XT. If you can get more VRAM with your GPU
Really cool to see someone benching with a 6800. Seems like a GPU most have forgotten about, but it works really well for me on my 1440p Ultrawide.
And now those XFXs are absolute value kings! Getting one today :).
We are living in strange times, where old GPU are cheaper and better.
i glad i was able to snatch a ASUS TUF 6800 XT.
In my country 7700XT is 94 USD cheaper. However, this is little consolation because all cards are much more expensive than in USA.
Keep in mind that in Starfield, the only place where your FPS is going to take a considerable hit is populated cities. In almost all other parts of the game you're going to see high to very high FPS (especially indoors or in caves, space stations etc.). So if you're getting around 50 FPS in cities, you're going to see upwards of 80 to 100 FPS in other parts of the game. My overall average is 115 to 125 FPS while only achieving high 65 FPS in cities.
True! I'm getting 78.5 in New Atlantis but 133 FPS on average everywhere else. If 60 FPS is the standard, what's to complain about?
I capped mine to 60fps. (Using v-sync and monitor refresh @ 60hz)
Having a consistent experience was more enjoyable (not that I liked the game much anyway)
@@christinaedwards5084 was starting to think I was alone in this understanding!...i think most people's eyeballs just don't comprehend what they're actually seeing...a vsync'd 60fps/hz (with bfi in my case) looks like buttery smooth 160fps motion clarity
@@Beast-mf7br it doesn’t feel the same 😂
higher fps is definitely superior for smoothness on condition it’s consistent.
Uncapped, some places I’m 120+ fps , others 72fps, one minute you games silky, next it’s juddery.
50+ frames was a lot to lose and no amount of sync technology can mask that.
Some moments it was almost like a slideshow outside in cydonia for me.
We can also add on my computer sounded like an F22 raptor with full afterburner. It was HOT.
I did find 60fps with keyboard and mouse also feels considerably worse than with a control pad.
So I opted for 60fps, and control pad. Smooth, good temps, low noise.
It made no sense to have it running on max.
Dropped my power consumption by over 150w too.
Now if only I could find the desire to actually play 😂.
I find this game really dull 😢
@@christinaedwards5084 ya I always play these types on controller, feels way more immersive imo....but ya, it's all about finding that stable 60 or 100 or 120 fps minimum for me, for Starfield i dialled in the settings to get a minimum 60fps in places like new atlantis, turn on vsync, then bfi on high is where the magic happens!....I hear ya though, played it for a few days then dropped it to tinker with Cyberpunk!
The problem is finding the 6800 at that price. In many countries stock has dried up, so your only option is 7700/7800 xt
True. I think one issue is that a lot of retailers can't afford to buy enough AMD graphics cards because they don't realize that the local demand for AMD cards will be high enough, or because the local demand actually isn't high enough. A lot of retailers don't necessarily have any idea whether or not a given AMD graphics card will sell well, and they might be forced to agree to buy a bunch of different products, rather than just the ones they think will sell well.
There are still XFX in stock in US and Europe and maybe some Asrock left. Rest are dried out or cost so much no one wants to buy them..
Exactly the video I needed... 6800 is 50$ cheaper and has 4gb more VRAM but I was tempted to go newer just because.
basically the same but 6800 has more vram and cheaper, definitely would go for 6800.
Looked like consistently lower power consumption too
I don't know about 7700xt, but 6800 both overclocks and undervolts like a champ
@@EhEhEhEINSTEIN I think that's because they don't report power the same way. Basically, the 6000 series is under-reporting power usage for some reason. I think the 7700 XT probably uses less power actually. The 6800 is still the better product though. The power consumption difference isn't big enough to matter. If you REALLY care about power consumption for some specific reason, then you probably want to get yourself a 16GB 4060 ti or an RTX 4070 instead.
The 7800 XT definitely uses significantly less power than the 6800 XT, at least when comparing reference model to reference model.
@@syncmonism Thanks for that tidbit about them reporting differently, I had no idea. I'm sticking with my 2080 for the foreseeable future as it's more than enough for the games I play but eventually a game will come out that piques my interest enough to warrant an upgrade.
6800 is more expensive here in my country.
I’m in awe that the higher end RDNA 2 cards have comparable viability to their RDNA 3 counterparts AND the offerings provided by Nvidia for the low and mid ranges. I’m at the point where I can buy a RX 6950 XT in lieu of a 7900 XT with only mild regret (which I’ll end up doing by the way). This generation of cards has been sobering to say the least.
well just a suggestion: RDNA3 cards are chiplet based, so it will take some time to mature properly. RDNA2 cards are great due to there software maturity. If i was you deciding between 6950xt or 7800xt so i would choose 7800xt, because simply it is newer technology, gives FPS same or better than 6950xt, will have future driver support, and it will mature with time. 7900xt is also a viable option if you can stretch your budget.
I got a good deal on the regular 6900XT and haven't regretted it for a moment. I won't probably upgrade until the RX 8000 series.
RDNA3 is fine. RDNA2 has just been priced low enough that it's still an option at the end of its life cycle.
So between a PowerColor Red Devil 6950 XT and a Red Devil 7800 XT you would choose the latter?
@@andrestrevino8119 yeah, because 7800xt is newer , it is based on chiplet technology, has RDNA3, and more upcoming exclusive feature and yet alone it draws less power. so why would you choose last gen gpus..?
Nice pointing this out Daniel! 6800 clearance pricing is insane right now. Grab it while you still can if this is your budget! The moment they are gone the 7700XT will be $399 gauranteed.
Hi Daniel. On the content creation side, the codec units in the RX 7000 series are 75% faster than the RX 6000 series in regards to h.264 footage in my testing with PugetBench for DaVinci Resolve Studio. If someone uses the card for both gaming and video editing, the 6800 XT may not be an optimal choice. I'll use the 7900 XTX and 7800 XT vs. 6800 XT example since I don't have the 7700 XT on hand.
DaVinci Resolve Studio 4K H.264 Decode to H.264 Re-Encode
6800 XT: 110 fps in Resolve Studio version 18.6
7800 XT: 192.19 fps in Resolve Studio version 18.5.1
7900 XTX: 192.09 fps in Resolve Studio version 18.6
As you can see, the 7000 series cards I tested are 75% faster than the 6800 XT with that type of footage but the 7900 XTX is within the margin of error relative to the 7800 XT. That is to say that the differences are due to the new architecture rather than their relative clock speed or VRAM in that particular test. I haven't tested the 7700 XT but given that information, it would likely be closer to the 7800 XT than the 6800 XT in that respect.
wouldn't you just buy an NVIDIA card if you are using it for professional workloads like those as well?
@@jesusbarrera6916 The 7800 XT has overall been faster in my video editing tests than the 4070 and the additional VRAM has been helpful when editing 8K. So no, unlike with 3D modeling applications, there is not currently an Nvidia advantage in video editing. Things changed a lot in the last year and which card is best for you personally depends a lot on which file formats you work most with and whether or not you do a lot of work in Fusion (either in Resolve or standalone) where the AMD cards have a major performance advantage.
I just realized I was vague about the advantage in the Fusion compositing module. 7800 XT scored 38% higher than the 4070 in that PugetBench section, 705 vs 510. The 4070 scored closer to the 3060 (465) than it did to the 7800 XT in that respect. My 4070 is great for my Blender work but for video editing, the 7800 XT is the one I prefer to use.
The main issue that AMD had at the time of the 7800XT launch was that they had a different driver set for the 7700 and 7800 series from the 6800 XT and 7900 XTX, so I can't use it in dual card mode in Resolve like my other AMD and Nvidia cards right now.
Hello, old post I see but do you think the RX6800 will do better with content creation if paired with an Intel i5-12600k igpu?
I have a 5800x3d and xfx 6800 I got used for 300 and I couldn’t be happier. I can play just about any game max settings and play cod at 240fps capped
What psu have you got?
@@j.b.7813 evga 850 wat semi modular
@@j.b.7813 prolly a 650 or 750w
04:19 7700 XT runs aprx. 20°C cooler than 6800 and this is quite impressive, especially considering that in the past AMD cards were usually installed as heaters in some homes.
While that's true, it also was consistently drawing an average of 25W more. It could be down to individual models, but you would consistently be saving up on your bills with an RX6800. I was honestly surprised that it runs cooler at a bigger power draw, probably a bit overbuilt fans on that particular model.
7700xt is really a bad value it should be between 400 and 350$
I think AMD was focusing on the fact that it's a way better deal than the 4060Ti but they forgot that their own models are an even better option. I think at 399 or 379 it could be really good, but it'll probably be a while before that happens
@@demrasnawla I can get the 7700 XT for 379. And a 6800 xt for 352, which one is better in your opinion?
Just discovered your channel. Was shopping for a customer's build and was considering this exact comparison - ended up going with the RX 6800 because I got it for $330. I run a small computer shop in alabama and I aspire to produce videos like this
Friend of mine just upgraded from a rtx 2060 to a used rx6800xt (400usd). He's happy with the performance.
got asrock 6800 at february around 290usd(4,5m idr) from friend that upgrade to 4080, its still very good card for 34" WUHD monitor and never use more than 200w
Been loving my 6800 and surprising stack up very well nowadays
Got rx 6800 open box from newegg for $320 in November 2022 and it has been great! Never had an issue with it and the 16gb is the cherry on top, Callisto protocol 120 fps 1440p max settings no RT used looks great compared to my old 1080p set up (rx 6600)
So glad I went with a 6800. Got it new for $400 in April. Undervolted and Overclocked. It does RT in many games well. In R&C you can play 1440p max settings with All RT settings at high and changing the RT range to 4 it will get 60fps.
Yeah it can't handle super heavy rt loads as well, but people underestimate how well rdna 2 cards do ray tracing
I played both Spiderman games with Ray Tracing to 60 stables 1440p with FSR Q. But I'd rather create an 80% base resolution in drivers and use RSR since 80% of 1440p upscaled to 1440p looks fine to me and is smoother thsn FSR Q
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216it's not underestimation
But it's just not made for rt
2080 ti beats 6800 in rt
Which is plain gimmick as 2080 ti is cheaper/same price as 6800
If you want ray tracing get a 7800xt or 3070 ti
@Birdman._. idk why that's so crazy. Nvidia 2019 flagship vs 2020 amd upper mid range. Yeah you can find a cheap used 2080ti, but that doesn't mean the 6800 is a bad value. The rt performance actually isn't that far off between them except in maybe cyberpunk where it's an nvidia showcase.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 to be completely honest I've come to completely regret get the 6800. The poor TAA in the vast majority of games has me really missing DLSS/DLAA. The fact that DLSS Q is less blurred, has better fine detail retention and less shimmering than native means while I get better fps now, I got better image quality with the RTX a2000 that my daughter now has.
Only looking at average fps raster performance benchmarks was a huge mistake. Should have thought of real world use case. I would be getting way better image quality and performance with a 3080 using dlss Q. Not to mention, RT is really starting to look good now. And I won't always be able to turn it off. We already have a game that uses it as it's only source of global lighting. Meaning it can't be turned off.
Wait for the 7700xt to drop in price and replace the 6700xt as the "value king". The 7700xt is currently pointless since it's so close in price to the 7800xt. Good video.
Yeah I can't imagine the 7700XT being more than $400 for long into 2024.
In my country the cheapest 7800XT is 1/3 more expensive than the best 7700 XT so i chose the latter, it's still a great upgrade from 5700XT tho
@@bakasandwich6162too early but good for you
5700xt could have easily lived a year by that time prices would have dropped
Right now 7700xt is around 410 so this is good value??
The 6800 is definitely likely to be the better buy for the long-term, even if they are both the same price.
The 6800's vram advantage is likely to matter a lot more 2-3 years from now, and I would think that most people buying these cards today would likely be keeping them for AT LEAST 3 years, if not longer, before upgrading again.
Yeah I buy AMD because I'm broke 😴😴 so for sure it has to last me 3 years or more
my only concern about buying the 6800 is that its a 3 year old card, i feel like it just wont stack eventually... also, its had 3 years of driver optimizations
@@xythrr I think the 6800 isn't even sold brand-new anymore. Either save your money and go for the 6700 XT or spend more on the 6800 XT/7800 XT. That would surely be my advice.
Vram don't make a card faster or slower. 12gb Vram is a proper amount for the performance of this GPU.
@@leanlifter1 12GB is the proper amount of VRAM for the performance of this GPU today. In a few years, VRAM requirements will surely increase, and the extra 4GB of VRAM will matter. Extra VRAM doesn't make a card faster, but lacking sufficient VRAM can certainly make it slower.
Needed this video, was planning on choosing between 6800 and 7700xt. Perfect timing ❤
Same 😁
I bought a barely used MSI 6800xt for $600 AUD ($385 USD) a few weeks ago. Happy with my purchase as I think it'll be a long while before the 7700xt comes down to that price here, let alone the 7800xt. The current cheapest 7700xt is $769 AUD ($495 USD) and the current cheapest 7800xt is $879 AUD ($565 USD).
I noticed the same thing... card prices in Canada are a little insane at the moment, and often the only midrange cards in stock under $800 or so are AMD or massively overpriced 3060s. 6800 seems like the closest to a deal, unless I want to go the cheap route and grab a decent bang for buck 8GB performer like the 7600 or A750 and turn settings to medium / low.
To be clear, any of those would be a big upgrade for me.
Thank you for another awesome comparisson!
Might switch from 2060 to a 6800/XT, i don’t really care about ray tracing or using FSR/DLSS at all.
So the 6800 is more power effecient(by alittle), much more VRAM and better frames at some moments. Unfortunately the card doesn't exist in my country and nor does it on websites where i dont get ripped off. So I thought screw it ill just get the 7700XT. It's new and should be fine for many years....... Upgrading from a 1660 TI 6gb card
As a owner of the salvors pulse Rx 6800 it’s the best made gpu of that generation everything under it amd wise runs on a different chip it runs so cool and is such a beast let alone for the price I paid sheeesh !
If you overclock both GPUs. The rx 7700 xt comes on top, the only situation where the rx 6800 is better, is when you are Vram limited. The games i play usually use 6 to 10 GB of Vram, so rx 7700xt is a better option
Hello daniel. 6800 xt is 90 dollars cheaper than 7800 xt in my country. Which one should i buy?
I was considering the RX 6800, but it's about 10-15% more expensive than the 7700 XT where I live. But at 399, I wouldn't think twice before buying it! Great video by the way, really helping me out in choosing the best card for my budget!
Okay, but even at 399, the 7800 XT for 499 is about 22% faster, with 33% more vram and significantly more memory bandwidth for 25% more money. Within the scope of the cost of the entire system, that's really not a lot extra to pay, especially if we assume that most people are probably not going to upgrade their card for another 4 years or more. The extra vram doesn't matter much yet, but it will definitely become a lot more useful before the end of that 4 year period.
And one big diference is AV1, only 7xxx series have.
I got lucky. Best Buy has the 6800 for $389 right now. Had $55 dollars in coupons my mom wasn't going to use. $335 for that card. Absolute steal. I was so mad because i was broke during Black Friday due to car issues. Then i got a promotion and Christmas bonus. Saw this card with those coupons. I jumped on it.
Nice, that's a heck of a deal. Paid like 325 for mine used.
The RX 6800 has much better power efficiency than the RX 7700 XT, even though it is from an earlier generation. In my opinion the RX 6800 is superior and worth the money.
The problem with the 6800 is that it will have inferior driver support as time goes by, due to being an older gen.
@@NoThisIsntMyChannel Youre right, I think the plus 4gb of vram will make some diference in the future too. IDK in the end with one is better.
Nanite, Lumen and FSR/DLSS all requires memory. Unreal Engine 5's Matrix demo wanted memory.
The choice is easy, RX 6800 16gb is the obvious winner.
Also, lets encourage GPU's manufacturing companies to increase the memory on these cards by purchasing GPUs with the most memory over newer GPU's that have similar rationalization performance with less memory.
I have been rocking the RX 6800 with a 9700k, and I stream while playing games at 1440p.. Its not perfect but smooth and performs... money well spent.
Interesting difference in overall temperatures and power draw. I think this is down to those individual models/make, as the fans of the RX 7700 XT must be overbuilt to consistently draw 25W more to keep it that cool. You would be generally saving up on your electric bill while still getting a very reasonable working temperature with the 6800 if this is an average user case, though. I for one got an RX6800 maybe 5 months before 7700 XT released, so it feels rather good to feel like my purchase was justified. I mean, sure, he mentions at the end (and during some benchmarks I skipped, guilty lol) that the power draw is actually closer, but without actual data to support it we don't know how much closer.
And now the 6800 is 380 dollars while 7700 is 409 dollars...Unless the 7700 drops to 350, there is no reason to get it.
Just got an Rx 6800 for 315 so excited!!
Impressive, that's a great deal man. I never saw it that low.
Amazon has been blowing out Sapphire Pulse 6800's for 499,00 US, its a great card .
The deciding factor for me is usually how long the graphics cards will receive driver support. I have a bad feeling that they'll stop updating the 6800 before the 7700xt, even though the 6800 is better.
Nvidia does that
AMD don't do that, AMD supports Linux users better than Nvidia and update their open-source drivers regularly unlike Nvidia. If and at some point stop updating for Linux, then there will be other contributors who continue it.
@electricz3045 good to know, upgraded to a 5700xt from a gtx 1070. I'm loving it, running everything in 1440p or 4k with upscaling.
Does Immortals of Aveum Ultra preset use Lumen for reflections, ao, and shadows or just GI? Likewise, does the high preset in Layers of Fear use Lumen for more than GI? Just curious as I do not have either game.
i was planning to buy RX7700XT as its within my budget but after watching soo many videos . im soo annoyed that people suggesting get the 6800 instead , here in india 6800 doesn't exists its off the market and the people who are selling it are double triple the base price .
also between 7700XT and 7800XT theres a 10K (120$) price difference
Very close performance. I would choose either over the 4060 ti.
I got a 'new other' 6800 unopened for $400, haven't installed it yet but I'm well chuffed, what a card....
I'm noticing that the non-xt cards are usually really good with not generating too much heat. I'm seeing the same heat sink and same fans as would be on the XT version for less watts. The 6800 is about the same but with more memory and better thermals for less money than 7700 XT.
*Great analysis!*
*I don't get how the 7700XT is using more wattage??*
It's a reporting problem. I think it actually uses less
@@syncmonism Ah ok makes sense, had issues with 5700XT reporting less wattage.
7700XT (TLOU) averaging 220w and at times slightly lower fps than 6800XT at ~180w and at times slightly higher fps ….. and comes in at a cheaper price w/ 16gb vram compared to 7700XT 12GB ….. I’d get the 6800XT imo 😇🤯😉🥰💪
Cheaper and lower wattage, im definitely looking at the 6800 now.
good if you can buy Rx 6800 for 399$, here in Latvia cheapest I found is 560 Euros (604$), while cheapest rx 7800 xt is 555 Euros (599$)
This is basically rx 580 4gb vs 8gb and look how it turned out.
“They’re the same picture” 😂
That was ages ago. If you had to wait that long to find a difference you would probably have a newer GPU by now
@@OfficialRapMV4gigs was the bare minimum even when rx580 launched.
@@mgk-metalgearkelly5054the same way 8 gigs is the bare minimum now. But with the rate games are becoming harder to run, things will go bad much quicker.
There’s a 4GB 580?
is it just me or the power consumption of the 7700xt is higher than the rx6800 in all games? the fps is pretty similar but the power draw is so different, although even having higher power usage the rx7700xt is way colder compared to the rx6800
He mentions the possible reason near the end of the video, stating the two cards don't report power draw via software in the same way, but in reality they use a similar amount of power. :)
@@Z.FA89 ohh i had to quit the video at 30:47 cuz i was running low on battery 😊thanks for the replay
Rdna3 became out broken
I'd be a bit shocked if the 7700 doesn't drop to $400 USD for Black Friday. As many reviewers have already noted it makes a lot more sense at that price. You have to do some mental gymnastics to justify $450 when compared against the 4060 ti 16GB @ $450 and 6800 @ $420.
I bought a Newegg open box Rx 6800 asrock phantom card for $320 6 months ago and it has been amazing at 1440p high settings and cool temps I got somewhat lucky took a chance
Just picked up a 6800 for 300 bucks on Facebook Marketplace. It was in great shape in the box SUPER happy with it for the money.
I've been following your videos for some weeks now and yesterday my RTX 4070 has died ... It was a superb card and RT in Cyberpunk 2077 looks great. But if I wanted to buy a new RTX 4070 now, I would pay 50 € more and for 600 € I do not find the price to performance really attractive anymore.
Now I saw a new RX 6800 for 455 € and I think to myself, for my needs that could be absolutely enough and after I saw your video I'm actually tempted to buy it.
How would cyberpunk perfrom on these GPUs, or at this level, Nvidia 4070+ required at 1080p ray tracing?
I managed to find a RX 6800 XT for just 300€, the best deal of my life. Buy the 6000 series cards screw the 7000 series. Right now atleast XD
Just got my hands on a discounted AORUS RX 6800 new for 400€. Very happy with my choice. Unfortunately and RX 6800XT is 499. The RX 7700XT is 460, so the discounted RX 6800 was a no brainer
6800 is a much better deal, more ram is most important.
i got a deal on a asrock phantom 6800xt on ebay for $360- 410 w/tax total to upgrade from 3070. i play at 1440p and am fine adjusting quality and could care less about ray tracing. wanted this card since it came out bc of vram to pair w 5900x. gonna swap out in the next day or two and will update:
I wish AMD made a miniITX version of either card. 2 slot, 195mm or shorter. I’m looking at the 4060 basically as the most powerful card for my portable build.
LoL no, there's a reason why is that big and is temps, cards get too hot.
4000 series from Nvidia are reaaaally cool, they could do a 4070/4070ti low profile for sure.
@@erickalvarez6486 doesn’t need to be low profile, you could easily get a 2 fan, 2 slot design with a 195mm length.
I wonder if it's my 5700g or 16gb sys ram holding my undervolted powercolor fighter rx6800 back ? My 1% lows frequently drops to 40+ fps. I have certainly never gotten the kind of performance as shown in the above benchmarks. FSR or even very low preset has no impact at all.
That's been my issue since I got my 1080 Ti. None of the gpu's around 200-300 really compete in terms of vram. I saw a 6700 xt 10gb for like 299 at best buy but that's still less vram.
hey i was wondering, would it be a good idea to upgrade from my rx 6700 xt to a rx 7800 xt?
6950хт more fps , low dollars
My cousin decided to sell her asus 6800 for $300 so she could by a 7700. After I told her she was crazy I bought it.
hi thank you for this video!
i not shure what to buy need advice please i for the games i play like COD warzone (will be getting cod mw3 to) ,bf 2042 i tend not to play online games on full gfx settings only 1080p
i currently have rtx 2060 super and it not giving me inough fps in warzone about 120 max on low settings
im after one of thease cards am swaying towards the rx 7700 xt (frame generation tech?) need 144 fps capped for smooth gameplay can i have some advice please ?
(pc ryzen 5 5600x @4.7ghz 32gig ram ,m2 ssd) do i need 16 gig gfx ram with the low medium settings i use ?
Get 6800 or even better 6800xt
FSR 3 launches tomorrow! September 29!
OK ok but why is no one talking about rx 6800 for how long will this gpu be supported by Amd ?
I'm using my 6800 since Novembre 2020 and it's still qute good in 2K but, after almost 3 years, seening the same performance (also in RT) at more or less the same price (and less vram) is quite horrible. Rdna3 is quite a failure.
In the EU at around 400€ the RX6800 is obviously the best option. No better price performance out there. It is quite, cool, has 16GB, top 1440 perf, even UHD most of the time. Imao it has long life in it like the old 1080TI 11GB had.
Always go one with more vram
6800 doesnt measure its complete power consumption, unlike 7700xt.
This has been explained plenty of times and video after video, people are not aware yet.
RX 7700 XT is so disappointing. It even uses more power than the RX 6800. Embarrassing! No wonder it was delayed.
Acer Nitro V 15 2023 (Intel Core i5-13420H Processor | 16 RAM DDR5 | 1 TB SSD | NVIDIA RTX 4050 Graphics 75W | 15.6" FHD 144Hz Display)
OR
Lenovo LOQ 15.6 FHD Intel i5-13420H RTX3050 6 GB 95W
16 GB DDR5 RAM 1 TB SSD
Which laptop should I Buy?
My RTX3070&R5-7600&32GB@6400&PCI4-SSD Gaming PC runs Starfield at 45 fps @ 1440p mostly HIGH/ULTRA settings with zero scaling using the DLSS mod.
You should already be aiming for 16GB+ of VRAM.
Although future games might not properly utilise it, it's better to have it, and not need it.
At some point, there are going to be 20GB VRam games, and you could either play it at a stuttery 20fps or a flowing 40-50fps
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Dec 5, 2023. A GPU buyer can get a 6800 for $30 more than a 7700XT. He could even get a 6800XT, which smokes the 7700XT across the board, for $50 more. Or he could spend just $60 more and get a 7800XT, roughly equal to the 6800XT but with AV1. That's not nothing, and could be significant to some buyers, but realistically, all one has to do is skip one evening at the pub to buy a 7800XT over the 7700XT. I'd spend the $60 and get the 7800XT, no question.
U could even overclock the rx 6800 to 2600mhz i wouldnt be a problem with thermals as my modell the SWFT 319 just hovers around 56-57 degrees and gets like 5-10% more fps than i would left it non overclocked
But in the EU and other countries the 7700 XT is cheaper than a 6800 which makes the 7700 XT a better option. Also the 7700 XT is better in terms of the longer support on the 7700 XT, you get warranty and you get the extra AMD features like DP 2.1, AV 1 encoding and HDMI 2.1.
just checked, you are right, 80-100 € price difference.
@@__-fi6xg The cheapest I found was 542 € which is still more than the 489 € for which the 7700 XT sells for.
Wrong. 12 gb in 2020s is not an option
@@lifemocker85 VRAM isn't everything... also in the EU 6800 is about 100 € more expensive.
@@laszlozsurka8991 it is everything when its under 16gb. Thats why look for used 6800
It’s bs that i couldnt even find 6800xt at a cheaper price but i use the heck out of my rtx by using moonlight so I don’t think i would of had such much mileage from an amd card; the market in the Midwest just isn’t willing to cut a good deal if buying used
Hoping the 7700xt comes down to 6700xt pricing within the next few months. $320-350
Not when it’s selling well I’ll be while for the price come down
@@Ghostlynotme445 Sad
i wish i could get exited about that, but once you have a gpu like a 6700 xt... imo 7700xt isnt really worth the upgrade, its hard to get exited for any gpu honestly...until some more years pass.
@@__-fi6xg I have Rx 6600 it’s gonna meet it’s match a year later
prices go up for xmas, come down in jan sales (in theory)
Can I run RX 6800 on 650W Gold rated power supply with Intel i5 12400f ?
Hi,
my rx 6800 swft 319 card in farcry primal game reaches 90 degrees in hot spot, highest settings. I wanted to ask if this is normal and what temperatures this card should have? I didn't do any UV or OC.
For hotspot temps that's totally fine. Anything below 110c is technically ok because that's the point where the GPU will thermal throttle, so a hotspot temp below 100c is decent and around 90c is just about ideal as long as your GPU fans aren't pegged at 100% to get there.
I forgot to mention more vram and you can easilyyyyyy OC and under volt it by a lotttt I run it at 2400 - mem -2100 and under volt too -900 easy stable on everything I’ve ever thrown at it swear to god
What are the best cpu’s with rx6800?
The thing nobody mentions in the VRAM argument is that by the time your card is running out of VRAM for new games, it might well be unable to run those games well anyway for a variety of other reasons, including future tech such as the tessellation or ray-tracing of the future. So it only really matters in that time window where the card is good enough in every other respect except that it's running out of VRAM and it's affecting frame rates significantly.
Another way of thinking about it from the standpoint of a value-seeking consumer (for me games are the hobby not sick PC builds), how much does "future-proofing" the VRAM actually extend the usable life of the GPU before you're gonna replace it anyway? I've had my GTX 1060 6GB for 5 years now, and at 1440p QHD it can't run anything demanding anymore. Did I buy myself an extra year or two by paying a premium over the 3GB version, or would I have had essentially the same good performance in undemanding games and the same bad performance in demanding ones?
I've been building PCs for 15 years and most of my attempts at future-proofing (everything from SLI to timing CPU socket generations) don't really end up paying off in the end for one reason or another. You pay a premium up front (which you could instead invest for a return) and hope to recoup the cost with slower depreciation and lower cost per year. Unless you gain a lot of years, you might be better off saving money buying better value and rebuilding more frequently. The other advantage of this is that you spend less time at the tail of your power curve, sacrificing settings to squeeze more time out of your components, and you get to spend more time with newly refreshed stuff that's more likely to work well with contemporary games.
Except as TLOU benchmark shows, "the time your card is running out of VRAM for new games" is a few months ago and that game runs at 70 fps on a RX 6800. So you aren't "future proofing" you are "now proofing"
Texture should be ultra every time everything can go to medium
We won't have a jump in VRAm in the next 5-8 years, unless UE6 comes
i felt so correct to bought used rx 6800 for $307
Ive said it numerous times before....Satisfactory is unreal Engine 5 (5.1 atm, 5.2 soon) as well. Uses Lumen and Nanite, no VSM. The games you always, and only test, arent the only UE5 games to play right now. Doesn't matter if fully released or not, that argument is a non starter. UE5 is UE5.
Suggestions pks: My msi 6800 gaming z trio died last werk. Payed 429€ in September 2023. They cand rrplace so i got a coupon. Now i can buy xfx swift 6800 for 409 or sapphire pulse 7700 xt for 455.
It reminds me fresh new r9 285 2gb vs old 280 3gb comparison. Time will show who win.
nice compare i love it, 👍👍
the most other never look at the rx 7700 xt only for the rx 7800 xt 🙄
Excellent FPS comparisons
Bought a 6800xt earlier this year. Do not regret;