Co2 or Compressed Air Which Ones Better?
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- Let's face it picking Co2 or Compressed Air (HPA) can be a bit confusing, let clear some things up!
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Where I play the air is always free. Or I should say included in the price of paint.
Same on my field
Same here, I can breathe it in whever I want to
Same
cop boom compressed air isn’t regular air
@@ShootistFN Why do you exist?
My field gives compressed air for free
U can even borrow their air tanks for free
DUDE where the hell do you play??? I wanna play there!!
hey im interested in a paintball gun but I want to know, can you use a co2 tank and a compressed air tank in the same gun
@@geoffreygreen7322 it depends on the gun. But most of the time yes you can use both.
@@33corbin96 thx but i got a gun already
@@geoffreygreen7322 oh nice
Thanks for the info sir. just got my first marker and this video helped out .
No problem :)
Giancarlo Tomanguilla you can get a airsoft rail mount adapter that will go to the side
@@giancarlotomanguilla2683 you can get an airsoft rail mount, it will screw to the side and be offset, diagonal, or sideways
Also check a local brewery. I got my co2 tank filled for 5 bucks
I've seen them filled at restaurants too.
My question is why did they ever start with CO2 in the first place? Plain old air seems like a much more obvious source for compression.
Original gas powered BB guns, Pellet guns and Paintball guns all ran on 12g CO2 cartridges/powerlets, which were also common for seltzer charging bottles and self inflating life vests. This was the only available compressed gas source in the 1980s that sold in retail locations. Paintball pistols still use these 12g cartridges. Fun, unrelated fact, the original way to carry paintballs was in cigar tubes, which evolved into 10rnd plastic tubes.
CO2 was a common industrial gas, but more important, gas suppliers already supplied single cylinder bulk tanks to every restaurant with a soda gun. That made it easy for paintball fields to get. In my days as a ref in the mid 90s we occasionally had to make runs to pick up CO2 tanks from restaurants when our gas supplier missed a shipment or was closed.
While scuba filling would be common in coastal areas where diving was popular, a paintball field in Colorado, Kansas or Pennsylvania would find CO2 much more common than compressed air. Also, until recently air compressors that could charge a bulk fill cylinder to 3000+ PSI cost close to $10k, so it wasn't economical to buy a compressor until well after the year 2000.
Money…inexpensive vs expensive…Everybody don’t have the moola = money
CO2 tanks are cheaper. The entry cost for a compressor is very high. Now that the industry has matured, most fields have compressors, and so they are just paying for electricity. They have to buy co2, so in the long run, air is cheaper. Back in the day, small 4500psi tanks were just not available, and even scuba shops weren’t set up to fill them. Also markers were simpler and designed to shoot with co2. They didn’t work well in the cold though. Nowadays for a few hundred you can even get your own compressor as long as you are being safe. CO2 is fine to start with, but air is so much nicer to live with.
very well explained - even to me as an airsoft player who wants to fire up his TM Hi-Capa - Thank you very much
Just one extra point: CO2 tanks require you to take them off the gun to refill, but air tanks have a fill nipple so you can fill them while they're still on the gun. Not a huge deal, but it's WAY more convenient.
Ahhh good call 👍
Great video. I was on the fence, but compressed air it is.
I'm new to this, but it's an excellent explanation!
Thanks man your video really helped me
I tend to get more shots out of a 20oz CO2 tank, around 800, whereas I get around 600 with a 48/3000 HPA. CO2 tank is also lighter than an HPA. That being said, CO2 is much easier to obtain where I live (Northeastern PA), whereas the nearest place to fill HPA is about 1 hour away. I get better consistency with HPA though, and it runs cleaner through my gun.
DJ O you will always get more shots out of co2. But it will never be work better than hpa. The tanks are different sizes so no point in comparing weight and shot counts when co2 shouldnt be used. You know you could go to a scuba store or even some fire departments will fill up tanks. Almost all fields use hpa and unless you're playing at a private field or are just going into the woods, you should have hpa access.
I prefer the co2 over the hpa ,
good one! what about doing a comparison video? apex barrel tips vs barrel insert kits.....
Comparison tank video is coming, just waiting to get all the tank I want to use
beetleweight robowars robot for me, excellent video by the way. ~1000 shots for co2, vs ~500 shots for compressed air, was going ooh, so I'll get to fire the flipper more often in the fight if I use a c02 tank
Wow, you have improved so damn much over the years.
Thanks very much for posting. It was very informative. 😁
held the ninja SL the other day. stupid light weight. worth the money.
I know this is old but it's great. Just bought both. 28 and 50$. Really depends where you live and how you're using it. My field is kind of far, but all the compressed air you want, when they're open. Fire extinguishing company is close and they'll fill co2. A bit of research taught me if you have scuba shops all over you're golden on compressed air. Co2 is a bit tougher 6 years after this video. Walmart and sports shops tend to not have people capable of running a cash register or dressing themselves so co2 gone there(again it will vary by area). Some homebrew beer shops and places that refill fire extinguishers are good for co2. Just call ahead and ask, if they don't do it they might point you in the right direction. Also just going to add on to that homebrew, a lot of brewers use co2 tanks for their kegs and are happy to point you in the right direction.
Thanks for the upload. This was really helpful. I'm thinking of buying the Tipperman TCR for self defense with the Breaker Balls as it seems to be highly recommended (I'm a complete noob to paintballing in general besides bachelor parties). I've been told if the gun is rarely used it's best to use Co2 and a small pistol like the FSC but I'm not the best shooter so would like to fire more than 12 shots 😂. I live in the UK hence the alternative, any help would be appreciated 👍
I like the TCR/TiPX for defense. The best part is that you can leave the 12gram cartridge in the marker and on the first trigger pull the 12gram is punctured, that way you don't have to worry about a tank leaking or having to screw something on. Its always ready.
@@PaintballRuinedMyLife Thank you for the advice dude 👍
@@PaintballRuinedMyLife
FSC every time. All you need is extra mags. The mags provide both power source _and_ ammo and can be switched out really quick.
The CO2 in the TiPX is slow to switch out.
The CO2 in the FSC can be pierced as you pick up the gun...takes no time at all.
Very good info! please let me know is it the same amount of pure air you can compressed as co2 ...is it last the same ..at the same thickness of the cylinder ?
hi how long can use leave a compressed air tank compressed for? as im thiniking of having a spare one for at home
in south Africa our price for gas is R1 a oz thats R20 for 20oz which is under 2 dollars , finding places that do compressed air is hard ,the places that do it its normal free but the only place to fill tanks for home is diving shops
Where I live the nearest store to fill co2 is an hour away although it’s cheaper to buy I’d rather spend more money on a tank I can fill at home for free with an air compressor thank you for this video helped me out a lot
Just note that most consumer compressors won't come anywhere near the PSI needed to fill these tanks. Compressors capable of 3000 +PSI aren't cheap.
what pressure is required to propel the paint ball so that it breaks on impact at a distance of 25 meters? Thanks.
Downside for the carbon fiber 4500 psi. Most of the fill stations won’t fill past 3000psi
Can you make a spool vs poppet video?
Anyone know how they fill the hpa tanks? No one really dose a review on what they use to refill
Which air compressor do you recommend to buy to have in home
Can you fill the aluminum with co2 or compressed air if you want?
You cant, tanks are designed to hold CO2 or compressed air not both.
Can I use a paintball gun with hpa tank without a scuba tank or compressor, can I refill it?
You could get a hand pump, but it might take you 10 hours to get the tank full :)
Ohw hahaha okay thanks man!
Paintball Ruined My Life it should also be noted that you most likely won't get more than 1500 PSI of air in your 4500 tank
hahaha!
Hi. Good video. im looking for a co2 regulator capable of outputting 1000psi, can you offer any advice?
Can you use a regular air compressor?
Thanks again for all your help. I’m brand new to this and have 20 ounce CO2 tanks. Can I use my CO2 tank, with the proper fittings as a compressed, air tank, also?
I just purchased a 98 custom and bought 2 co2 tanks. This is not for paintball but for pepper ball and nylon balls.
Am I able to fill these co2 tanks with air instead of co2?
Can you mix and fill co2 in compressed air tanks and vice versa?
Im goin' whit compressed
If you play enough to warrant filling your own tanks CO2 tends to be cheaper because you don't have to buy commercial grade compressors, a 5 pound CO2 tank cost around 60-80$ and usually comes pre-filled. A 5 pound tank is 4 20oz tank refills and it only costs about 6.50$ to refill your 5 pound tank. The hardware for filling tanks from a large CO2 storage tank run around 20$.
Side benefit being you can also run a soda stream or beer tap with em too.
I have an air compressor at home. If I get the air tank can I just use the compressor to fill the tank?
Probably not, most home or shop compressor might go to 200 PSI all paintball tanks hold a minimum of 3000 PSI
HPA is more consistent >>>because each tank has a regulator built right on
Can I use a air compressor to fill the compressed air tank?
This isn’t paintball. But have a question. There are show only nos setups for cars. Where it only does the purge action Im wondering. If the compressed air would make the same show as either the co2 or nitrous ???? The purge kit being used has the led on the valve to light up the purge..
It's easy to modify a c02 tank to make it work allot better. Everyone had modified tanks back in the day where I played. You just unscrew the top of the tank. Screw it all the way into the gun. And solder a small copper tube that bends upwards. You put it back in the tank and you'll never get liquid into the gun. It makes a big difference.
Anti-siphon tube
So can you fill that tippmann tank with compressed air?
Can you fill up a compressed air tank with an air compressor at home, or do you need a special one?
you need a special one. Can be very expensive
My local field charges $10 for all day air whether it is co2 or HPA. One thing I have noticed is co2 seems to work better with certain guns. On my Phantom and Pro-Carbine the markers are a little quieter with Co2 than it is with HPA. My autococker is setup to where I can switch between the 2. There is nothing noticeable between them.
I remember calling compressed air nitro tanks. That was confusing
can you fill up an HPA tank at home with one of those red air compressors you plug into the wall or do you have to take it somewhere.
its 4500psi a car tire is like 35psi, i highly doubt your bike tire compressor will work
could I fill a compressed air tank at home with my air compressor or does it need something special?
Nope. You are going to need a pretty special compressor. Most home/shop compressors are only around 200 PSI, paintball tanks hold upwards of 3000 PSI
So you're saying I could fill to 200 psi? Even though it's minuscule?
so which one will shoot more paint? u said 2 co2 tanks for a box and 4 compressed air per box? at the beginning it hought u said compressed air lasts longer?
What are some tips for maintenance of a paintball gun
clean it after you use it, get paint off to save the paint, if you break a ball clean it out, hot soapy water will clean off the paint residue from your gun, barrel and mask, etc
Max J-S
I like to leave my barrels in warm soapy water for an hour then rinse and squeegee/ polish with a barrel swab.
For the exterior of my gun/ hopper (don't let water inside, it could ruin the electronics) I use a spray bottle full of warm soapy water n spray a cloth to wipe it all down if it's already dry. If it's still wet I just use normal warm water (paintball gear is easiest to clean right after playing). Then wipe off thoroughly.
As for clothes I lay em down on my lawn n hose off all the hits thoroughly n shake it out then hang dry before throwing in the washer.
For my mask I just spray warm soapy water then water then I use lens cleaner. If you have a single pane lens you can just let it sit in warm soapy water before using lens cleaner but don't do this for any dual pane lens because water will get in between the plastic and ruin the lens.
You can clean the eyes of your gun without uncovering them by wiping them with a towel then getting the rest with a qtip dipped in 50% rubbing alcohol it's important that you only use enough to clean the outside and that it doesn't drip into your board and short circuit it. The rubbing alcohol dries pretty fast if u only wipe it down.
If your eyes are very dirty you can uncover and wipe with a moist cloth.
For tanks just wipe off with a wet towel.
Most guns and hoppers have a manual or video posted on how to thoroughly clean the hopper so just look em up!
Hope this helped you because it sure as hell helps me lol.
It's always good to bring a spray bottle of regular water n a few towels when you go out Paintballing btw. Have fun dude!
@@ricostvac you helped me thank you
What if I want to shoot my markers at home, could I use a basic air compressor? To fill myself because most of the time I will probably just be shooting at home. Pls help I’m new to this!
Very smart interview. I enjoyed your knowledgeable expertise. I only use mine for tactical Home Security and your comparison of the dif between Air And Co2 was very interesting. I bought the small refillable x 2 Co2 tanks with an older foldable stock Ar looking Tippman. Antique I guess at 50mm cal.
what do u plan on stopping with a paintball gun? do you protect your house from rodents?
@@justinc2633 they do manufacture various riot balls, you wouldn't want those hitting your face
@@hardkore360 yeah thats true...
@@justinc2633 image blasting someone with a .50 cal ball bearing
Could I fill up a compressed air tank with a compressor if so how what connection do I need
At the field I play at if you buy all day play for like 10 or 15 dollars they fill all tanks for free as many times as needed
Hi I just got a Azodin Kaos 2
CO2? Or Com. Air?
And which tanks are good? Thanks!
Go with compressed air. No one is really using co2. The fields don't use co2.
I play speedball and magfed, I use co2 for magfed, I use compressed air for Speed ball. I realized when I was playing mag fed in a 80 degrees and my pressure in my tank went up high so always, go compressed air
Is this a good setupEtha 2, prophecy z2, crossfire 45,45, v force profiler
for sure!
Can i add compressed air to any paint marker?
Please help! We’re 30 minutes south of Nashville and can’t find a local compressed air place (other than tournament fields) to fill our tanks. My sons birthday is in a couple weeks (12) and I’m trying to get everything set up in our back yard. Local sporting good stores don’t refill here anymore. Any advice is appreciated!
good think its unlimited co2 and air where I go
Not a bad deal at all if they do unlimited co2!
Ik I'm a bit late but once your done with the game do u take out the compressed air tank from the paintball gun or do u leave it I there? I'm new to all this, pls help
Bob Bobby I usually take it off and leave. A little bit. Of air in it about 1,000 psi
Bob Bobby and you can also get a tank case for more protection
Always disconnect the air from the gun when done with play. If the tank is aluminum, you wont need to store air inside of it. If it's carbon fiber leave between 500 to 100 psi inside the tank.
Question: you said co2 gets weird with electric markers, why is that? What does it do?
hola buenas tardes te hablo desde argentina y te queria preguntar cuantos disparos me rinde una garrafa de 20 oz de co2 y cuantos disparos me rinde una garrafa hpa de 3000 psi, muchas gracias
Does anyone know if CO2 tanks can be filled with air an visa versa?
Is HPA the same as compressed air and is that the same as nitrogen?
and the hydro stuff is kind of annoying on the HPA tanks; you can just buy a new CO2 tank if the hydro date comes up (although you'll probably be broke from paying for CO2 refills)
just a thought though; mostly for playing devil's advocate more than anything
Ya but you do it every 5 years...
Compressed is the way to go
I'm getting an x7 Phenom and wanted to know what would be a good tank to go with
J ADDiXX same bro just bought it off Amazon. Electric one. Now we know. Air compressor
If I have a co2 paintball gun can I still use the compressed air?
Jose Limon Jimenez the only thing that's c02 is your tank. The gun isn't a c02 gun. There are no markers that won't work better with hpa.
Alright guys I have a geo3 so what air tank should I buy ? Compressed air ? Or co2
My son is starting out in paintball (hasn't shot a paint ball yet out of his new gun) and he has the tippmann 20oz co2 tank. Can you change the fitting on the tank to a fitting for compress air?
Don't do that ❌❌
If my gun comes with a refillable co2 tank, can I fill it with compressed air instead? Or do I need to fill only with co2?? Would I need to buy another tank to use compressed air?
If you have a co2 tank, you can only put co2 in it. You would need to buy a compressed air tank.
Do you need a cord to fill it up with a air compressor like if yes or don’t like if no
Just go compressed air! I'm coming back I to paintball after 10 years and I went to the paintball shop I used to go to back then and I asked for a co2 tank which was $20 for a 20oz., So my guns leaked so I decided to go to another place for air but they told me the truth about co2 going obsolete, which I was kind of bothered the first store did not tell me, but I ended up buying a compressed air tank. I'm converting my Tippmann into magfed and from there I'll see what I buy, either a magfed pistol or speedball gun. Thanks to my niece for always getting my paintball guns off my desk and getting me into it again
a lil off topic but you seem super knowledgable... could you recommend a aftermarket barrel for a mini gs? thanks@
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Thanks a lot for this video I’m 11 and try to go with my dad
i have a question for a tipman 98 custom is a adapter needed for a hpa tank
No. Tippmann Pro-Carbine, Model 98 and later models are all designed for both CO2 and HPA. Back in the olden days you needed a separate gun mounted regulator, but now those regulators are part of the HPA valve. In fact we just refer to it as the regulator now and only call it a valve when its the old simple kind on a CO2 tank.
I also want to add that before buying a tank you should find out where to get fills and ask what they fill. Many commercial fields are eliminating CO2 and only do HPA, BUT many sporting goods stores that cater to people who play on private land only supply CO2 (Dick's is an example of a national retailer that only supplies Co2).
I was told I shouldnt put co2 in my e1 electric gun because its electric. Does that go for other electric guns?
Yes
im just researching this to make a replica of the spin from sbr
Can I use the co2 top that yellow thing rather than a regulator on a compressed air cylinder ?
You can not You wouldn’t be able to fill it or regulate the pressure.
Can you refill HPA tanks with an oxygen cylinder? Or does it have to be done with an air compressor?
If you want to potentially forfeit your life or limbs.
Is it necessary to buy a higher end brand tank for an electric gun?
Nope, they should all work fine. Some brands are better than others though, but they will all work.
Paintball Ruined My Life VMax plus is a perfectly good entry hopper. it IS a bit bigger and lacks key features that high end hoppers have but vmax will feed perfectly.
can i fill a Co2 tank with air? or is dangerous?
Could a invert mini gs take co2.
thanks it really helped, just have one quastion
can i fill the hpa tank with a compressor at home or do i have to go to the store to get it filled???
You'd need a really powerful and expensive compressor, but if you have one go for it. I find it's easiest to go get it filled and then if I have to top it off later an air rifle pump works great.
@@HRCSJSUAMMAS aight thanks man
Hi i got empire mini gs What thanks is better?
Im getting an air compressor and Im just wondering, is there a certain nozzle that I need in order to refill paintball tanks?
What kind of compressor? The compressors needed to fill paintball tanks are $3,000+
Oh, well never mind then. I thought that any air compressor would work, I was going to get the PowRyte Basic 120PSI.
And by needed do you mean I actually require one of those really expensive ones for paintball tanks, or it would just be way faster and easier?
Paintball Ruined My Life y lie and say 3000 dolalrs for one lmao go on ebay or other places and find one for like 450 or 5 flat 😂and they hold 4500 psi
Great video man! I have a woodsball gun tippmann A5 Response and use compressed air..I do play all day so do you think the carbon fiber tank is worth the $ for the upgrade?
It would be about a 1 pound 4 oz reduction in weight from a 48 Tippman aluminum hpa tank to a 50/4500 empire hpa tank. Your tippman a5 is about 3 pounds 2 oz by itself. So a decent reduction in weight. The empire hpa of the same size as the tippman tank would add about 250-500 shots respectively. And reduce weight by 5 oz.
are they different tanks? or can either compressed air or co2 work in the same tank?
They are different tanks
Compressed air tanks can just be way too expensive
Do both compressed air and co2 work on any paintball gun?
Compressed air will, but Co2 will not. It is best to consult your manual to find out which is best for your marker.
I get to fill my co2 tanks for free my dad is a sheet metal worker so he uses co2 all the time
But co2 is trash
@@galaxyalien-yt7566 let me educate you CO2 is more denser than air as a result CO2 gives more FPS than compressed. CO2 and compressed air both have pros and cons I prefer CO2 since I only pay 4 bucks to fill up a big bottle in my location
@@lancesilva5861 thanks I'm new into paintball
@@galaxyalien-yt7566 👍
@@lancesilva5861 go look at my channel I have videos about my paintball gun it's a empire mini gs
I have a tippmann tmc I wanna get ninja 68/4500 psi air tank will that work with the gun?
Yep.
Thank you for correcting yourself, you aren't "making money" playing paintball. That was funny!
Can I fill the compressed air tank with Co2 gas as well ?
No, unfortunately you can’t.
Very knowledgeable. Why use CO2 at all? Sounds like the only benefit is more shots, but less consistency?
Its also easier to get filled for some people and cheaper.
Is it true that compressed air is better for the gun? I heard that CO2 freezes the orings in certain conditions and can ruin them with time.
It is possible, but very unlikely you will cause any damage to o-rings from using Co2.
I have a ninja raw tank and my friend had and he forgot wether it is CO2 or compressed and and it’s hard to see the words but there is no air in it all but if it is CO2 and I was wondering can I fill it with compressor?
You can't refill a co2 tank with compressed air. If it is an air tank you'll need a compressor that can match it's pressure. It the tank holds 3000 psi, you need a compressor that can put out 3000 psi.
i love paintball!!!!!!!!!!!
just felt like telling everyone
Our Euro bottles on HPA are measured in like litres or like 0.8L not in ounces
True.
Can't you also refill a compressed air tank yourself with an air compressor? My dad has one and he always used to just fill the tanks himself any time we would play in my friend's backyard.
Hey wat air tank should I get for my azodin blitz 3??
Anything really, I like the Empire and Ninja tanks the most though.
C&T fishing any of them will work. Preferably one that comes with a different gun attached to it. The only low end marker brand that's worth buying is tipman.