Wow ! I use to watch High Intensity Health all the time . I was really thrown back when he came up with this study. I haven't had red meat in 43 years chicken fish and dairy 35 years . I'm 68 . I squat 175, bench press 110, deadlift 175 curl 60 pounds 70 on a good day. Haven't been sick in over 40 years., all on a plant base diet.
Yes, if you want muscle you exercise, simple as that. I have not eaten meat since 1970. No dairy or eggs since 2011. Same weight as my whole adult life and healthy as ever at 65. Recently learned to hold handstands much longer, and can once again do backbends after having some problems with it in my twenties (was born with a curved spine). I also do my splits better than ever and learned to do the crow and more. Getting better at everything right now, and it's because of exercise and general health. If I had covid I didn't notice. No vaccine, but I tried to protect the weak in other ways. I've had 3 light colds in 12 years. As a vegetarian I had them every year, though.
@@carinaekstrom1 Given your past commentary, i'd say being intelligent, well-learned can be added to your resume. :) I love people who approach information scientifically and can respect it. You're going strong and healthy and hope you will for many more decades, cheers.
The Rich Roll part was so ridiculous. That was from a podcast with Peter Attia as a guest, where Attia mentioned that he was having the same issues a few years back, when he was much younger than Rich Roll and eating a meat heavy diet. Could he be more biased? 😂
Back injuries are very common among gym bro's lacking real training out to break their personal best in a deadlift. It has nothing to do with diet. Attia has even talked about the foolishness of his lifting routine in the past.
I've been Vegan for 5 years I don't get sick and I've never felt better at age 41 no supplements no medication only plant power. My friends say I'm reverse aging. Best thing I've done for myself. I started by going plant based was inspired by the game changers movie.. 🙌🙌💖🌎💖🙌🙌 Sending Love. Thank you
What exactly do you eat? Cuz I've tried every starch and I guess I just have candida or yeast over growth and I cannot handle starches so I'm stuck with just various herbs and cruciferous veges. I can handle certain nuts like macadamia and pretty much anything expensive like that... So hard to figure out. I get the worst depression I can't even describe, legit suicidal, yea it gets that bad.. If you have any ideas I'm all ears.
@John Fish I only drink water preferably spring water and juices and coffee teas every once in a while. Try avoiding anything processed. I wake up at 5am every morning I film the sunrise just a habit of mine another reason I'm healthy..SUN 🌞🙌🙌🙌 I start with coffee in the morning I make Espresso the Cuban way then when I get hungry I eat an organic banana sometimes two. I'll have a bagel with garlic powder nutritional yeast roasted red peppers fresh dill from my garden sometimes. Also over night oats are great option too. Oats coconut milk and raisins is how i like it. I drink water all day long. Legumes Avocados any Fruits potatoes spinach arugula kale..I love garlic...just try and eat real food from the earth grown organically. For dinner I'll make a pasta with sautéed mushrooms garlic onions spinach splash of lemon and vegan white wine some capers mmmmmm. Mushrooms are your friend I actually just started growing lions mane so easy to grow perpetual food supply ;) and healthy you can use it as meat substitute for gourmet dishes ;) Just eat whenever you feel hungry forget everything they taught you about 3 meals a day food pyramid b.s. just do what you feel and follow your highest excitement at all times with no expectations of the outcome and you'll always be in the right place at the right time...the universe has your back..you will feel better...stay positive and go for nature walk or hit the beach for sunrise or sunset if your close. 🌞♾️💞
Ha ha, well, we do save some money not buying meat but I hear you. My job gives me daily angina, but eating meat won’t make my company hire more people, or create logical structures for our work.
Actually, you may be deficient in lithium. Its a little known essential mineral that helps with cortisol regulation. Try getting it tested with your doctor, or you can try lithium orotate OTC 1-5mg. It has lots of interactions though so please check with your doctor beforehand. I take it instead of lithium carbonate, prescribed by psychiatrists for bipolar disorder and I have been in remission since I have started. ❤ I hope this helps.
Nonono, a steak would make you forget all you problems. Leucine is just magical. It magically makes money appear on your bank account. That’s why vegans are poor.
When I went vegan 5 years ago, I reversed heart disease, type 2 diabetes & hypertension. Also my depression & anxiety, which I had suffered from for many years, totally disappeared. I'm now the healthiest & happiest I've ever been 😊
My anecdote: I run faster than I did in high school as long distance athlete as a vegan pushing 40. My vegan pregnancies were healthier and vegan deliveries easier. My mental health since being vegan has been incredibly better than when I was a carnist/omnivore. Although, I have also been sober this whole time so I think that also contributes to this. On the superficial side, I get told I look 25-28 even though I am almost 40. My skin is always clear and I had never achieved that as an ominvore. What I appreciate most about being vegan is what is had done for my me empathetically speaking. I feel and long to act for the betterment of the planet, the animals, and my fellow humans having lived nearly 7 years with this kind of empathy and love.
The contrast between these two Michaels is stark. One cites anecdotes, one questionable paper, and thin air. The other cites dozens of studies, primary and meta-analyses, to back up everything he says. High Intensity Mike likes to say "Let's look at the science." Yeah, let's.
I just had my 7 year veganniversary!! I went plant-based for health to reverse my autoimmune disease. The only flare I had was during my 2nd pregnancy (high WBC count), but have been so much healthier than I used to be as an omnivore!! I now have 2 happy healthy kids - both vegan since conception 🙊
You're too nice. The man's a walking example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, and so are his viewers who credit him with any expertise. Good job picking his "facts and science" apart, and thanks for posting!
I have an identical twin brother. I’m vegan, he’s not. I have more hair and better health. I’d say our overall happiness is comparable. But aside from my the anectotal evidence; I don’t care if being vegan is more or less healthy than being an omnivore. I care about the animals and environment and if that means I live a shorter less healthy live, so be it; so far it works out fine for me (veggy for 20 years, vegan for 6).
Frankly speaking I've been far less depressed since going vegan, even though our trajectory as a species is far more bleak than it has ever been, and worries me. the far reaching power of disinformation echo chambers , is especially worrisome. Also, I'm kinder and more patient since being vegan. Also it cured my anemia. Also my hair, nails and skin have improved tremendously. Mind you , I generally eat healthy, clean, lots of fresh greens and fruits , which has likely contributed. If I were a junk food vegan I'd probably be no better off than a carnivor
@@Gaia_Seraphina By eating properly, you eating disordered buffoon. It's called food, shocking, i know. Legumes, greens, grains, etc, all have an abundance of bioavailable iron, bioavailability naturally increased further by vitamin C. Don't blame veganism just because you don't know how to eat in the first place.
@Gaia Seraphina so when I went vegan I did it for compassionate reasons/ethics despite being anemic. I didn't know that anemia could be reversed. So it's just something that happened within less than a year of going vegan. It was a long time ago so there weren't many fake meats and cheeses, they weren't tasty and didn't interest me. I didn't know how to be vegan, there wasn't any social media yet. So I just the same except that my salads became the bulk of my meal where previously it was a small side dish. And I used to make fresh apple juice and pop it in the blender with 2 cups kale, a banana and about 1 cup frozen blueberries . That was my appetizer, I'd drink it while making dinner. I'm just typing anything I can remember about the early days bc that's when the anemia got reversed. Also, I cut out wheat and sugar, I'd use banana to sweeten my cookies and cakes. In place of wheat, I'd put oats in a food processor and turn it into flour . Also I started eating a much greater variety of vegetables and in larger quantities to replace the meat. B4 the veggies were just a tiny portion of my meal with meat being the bulk. I loved meat. Breakfast lunch and dinner. Beef lamb pork chicken fish seafood. Once in a while I crave lobster and shrimp but it passes quickly and it's always when I haven't eaten enough. However, the smell of meat cooking males my stomach turn and burns my nostrils, though I'll be honest, I did crave meat the first few years but the knowledge of the suffering of the animals easily kept me steadfast. I also used to make butternut squash curry alot , something I never used to eat. And next day I'd turn the leftovers into cutlets using the squash and oatflour. I'd steam broccoli, pulse it in the processor with onions and garlic salt pepper, then pulse in the oatflour for broccoli cutlets. Beans weren't really on my radar, but I did make a pot of lentil vegetable soup weekly. For my morning lattes I used ricemilk in place of dairy milk. That apple juice kale blueberry smoothie was a daily thing, kept it up for first few years, until life changes didn't allow for enough time. Now I use water instead of apple juice. That's all I can remember. hopeIt helps ❤ Edit I just remembered, back then I stayed away from soy, unless it was fermented (miso), bc I had read it caused hormonal imbalances and it scared me lol I eat alot of organic tofu now, love it.
People tell me I look healthier than ever. I can't tell if it's good nutrition or a clear conscience. Eating dismembered body parts is kind of psychotic. V4L 💚🍎🥑
even if he was right, and it was worse than that, I would not ever go back to eating, wearing or paying for the abuse and exploitation of non-humans. veganforlife ❤
@veganforlife You excluded human animals, and that's speiciesest , so you're not a real vegan . Sorry , I don't make the rules. Perhaps you can call yourself a misanthropic vegan.
These people love telling us how correlation doesn't equal causation when we cite the large epidemiology studies, but then they instantly forget and start making the most spurious correlations imaginable . These people are immune to hypocrisy.
So I ate vegan for about a year before I started giving in again...... during that time, my anxiety and depression almost vanished. It came back when I increased the standard American diet. I'm going back on a whole foods plant based diet and it is improving again
At 56 and vegan I am stronger lifting weights and more fit for cycling than I had ever been as an omnivore. My recovery time is a couple hours, not days, and DOMS is almost non existent. My cholesterol, blood pressure, and heart rate are all low. Removing animal products from my diet has done nothing but improve my life and my health.
I was low carb for years and I was able to maintain a good weight during that time, but eventually it caught up to me and I had neurological damage. Eaten plant-based with plenty of fruit and starch healed me.
6 years of keto/carnivore left me with health issues this man is trying to put on veganism: sarcopenia (and a big one, I was skin and bones), suicidal thoughts (I asked my brother to take care of my son if something should happen to me), joint destruction (left knee, right thigh, wrists), hair loss and hair thinning due to high cortisol and my thyroid slowly giving up on me, much more frequent migraines than I'd experienced before dropping carbohydrates (this was the reason why I started the keto experiment), nausea, cyclical vomiting syndrome (once a month lasting 3 days - pure agony), EXTREME methane SIBO (and I mean EXTREME), painful bowel movements every 6 days, arrhythmia and pain in the chest (I couldn't sleep on the left side for the last year on this diet), cholesterol nearly 400, LDL 270. Since I transitioned back to eating 99% plants (which was painful, I killed many of the beneficial bacteria species by eating little to zero carbs) the only thing I am left with and still trying to heal is painful joints but I understand it must take time. If anyone has been suffering from arthritis of any kind and managed to heal on a vegan diet, I'd be grateful for some tips. I still eat 80 g of sardines in olive oil once a week, other than that, zero animal foods.
If you want to go fully vegan , you can swap the sardines for bivalves such as oysters and mussels. Like plants, bivalves don't have brains , so they can't mind if we eat them . I like to grill them in garlic butter.
I'd ditch the sardines and olive oil, these do nothing good for your health. The fish in our oceans are all polluted with plastics, pesticides and whatnot and no oil is healthy, pufa oils get rancid really quickly forming the toxic hydroxynonenal and olive oils isn't a pufa but a mufa but still has 12% saturated fat.
Long term Fasting or long term exercise gets rid of most autoimmune disease and maybe cancers due to the breaking down / autophagy of faulty cells. Healthy eating wont breakdown autoimmune cells but does reduce inflammation from them and rebuilds healthy cells that have been broken down fom fasting or exercise.
@@ttt72772 Thank you. I have a very unpleasant experience with fasting maybe beacuse I had severe electrolyte imbalance due to zero carb diet when I tried to water fast. I know that autophagy starts at 15-16hr fast so I hope now when my electrolytes are pretty much ok I can handle it. Yes, when I don't eat the pain subsides. It must be autoimmune.
The term vegan just says what is NOT eaten, it doesn't say anything about what exactly is being eaten which makes all the difference where diet is concerned. Seeing as how there is no one way to do a vegan diet, some vegan diets can be very healthy while other vegan diets can be very unhealthy. It all depends on what exactly is eaten in the diet.
Depression in my life was associated with my overconsumption of dairy, McDonalds, Chick-fil-A, Whataburger, etc. etc. etc. I was also consuming processed foods including milk chocolate, sugar laden processed cakes, cookies, "protein bars" etc. etc. etc. Zero veggies and fruits.
I keep wondering about the motivation of these die hard meat eaters. Like… why?! When they want to convince people veganism is dangerous and they know they’re lying, is it just a way of being defensive about eating meat when they know they shouldn’t? Would be an interesting video to delve into the psychological phenomenon of these meat lovers. I always wonder about it and I can’t figure it out.
Wow! So glad you did this video! I saw Mike Mutzel's post a couple days ago and was appalled by how sloppy it was. What the heck happened to him? I've always respected his exercise advice but now I'm suspect.
@@TomasGrannNo he's not. He's specifically focusing on how "nutrient deficiencies may be present on a plant based diet" because animal foods aren't present. He makes essentially no mention of the much larger percentage of the population eating animal foods that is also nutrient deficient. Example - about 0.5% of the country is vegan, yet over 75% of the country is vitamin D deficient. Even if EVERY vegan was D deficient, 3/4 of everyone else is also vitamin D deficient. His logic suggests D deficient carnivores should simply eat more meat. This is nothing more than a thinly veiled and poorly executed hit piece on vegans. And for the record, no, I'm not vegan.
@@jackvegas3705 Yes, to my point of deficiencies, such as a plant based diet very much can contribute to. Is he really stating such logic in suggesting more meats, greater chances for solutions? I got the memo he advocated for a omnivorous way of eating and sees solely plant eating to be of concern. I don’t subscribe to the idea that because none vegans are also deficient (example vitamin d you give, which is an issue bigger than only in regard to food intake), thus plant based is somewhat standing in a neutral position. That’s in my opinion a lazy way of reasoning and ignores the bigger picture, one that plants and avoidance of meats will most probably not fix. Well I guess it’s of curtesy that you inform me you’re not vegan, but regardless, I don’t care. I hope you and others see through team-A versus team-B and are able to make a better quality of living by finding out for themselves what works and what doesn’t. That’s why I like to read vegans write about good results just as the ‘opposite’ that is nowadays carnivores, and with that said, wishing you to eat and live good in the bright future of yours.
Mic, re: the whole back and joint pain thing over 50... I can only speak from my own experience here, but I have back and joint issues. After consulting several docs and trying a myriad of healing modalities, I have come to some conclusions. 1) You can wreck your future body unwittingly by eating like crap (meaning, junk food, sugar, oils, eating out of balance, etc.), not exercising at all or properly, being overweight, or being stressed out when you're younger. So, you younger folks? Get informed and take care of yourself. Your future body with thank you. 2) I've been getting my bloodwork done very regularly to see if my diet/lifestyle tweaks are pulling my numbers down. The ONLY thing that has worked on getting my inflammation markers down has been a WFPB (including no oil and sugar and low salt) diet. Does that mean I advocate that for everyone? Nope. But I am saying that it's brought my weight down, my pain down, and blood numbers down. The reality of all those issues coming up after 50 may just be flower that bloomed from what was planted earlier... if you get me.
It's kind of hard to watch these people say the same crap. I'm glad you are here to debunk them. I like hearing your info but i can't stand watching their clips
In society meat eating has gone up, yet he blames depression on people eating more plantbased. When they don't. Ok. I've been irritaded on this guy's blatant bias and misinformation for a while.
Vegan for 15 years. Get blood tests every year. The only vitamin deficiency that I had was Vitamin D which is low in most North Americans irrespective of diet type. I supplement with D and B12 but I’ve never been low in B12 even when I didn’t supplement the first 5 years I was Vegan. All protein comes from plants. Most animals that these folks eat are herbivores.
Been vegan 32+ years and the last few years have been hilarious with all the new anti-vegan angles the dead-animal-eaters are coming up with, what a time to be alive. 😂
As a non-vegan, i used to suffer from almost daily joint pain. Since switching to a vegan diet about 7 years ago. My only regret about going vegan is not doing it sooner
Re vegans and depression: After becoming an ethical vegan and realizing there’s realistically no end in sight for the torture of animals because of people’s stubborn desire to eat them and their excretions, I became pretty depressed. TH-camrs like this one being debunked who refuse to have an ounce of compassion or look at actual unbiased data breaks my heart for the animals. And I’m sad for those whose health is harmed because of perpetuating misinformation from animal eaters.
All you say is true, and it is heartbreaking, but veganism is growing despite far reaching corporate carnist propaganda. There is a bright light, hang in there ❤
I was going to watch it but then i knew it was going to be biased 😂 thanks for debunking it. All i can say is 60percent of americans are overweight or obesed and that is certainly not from plant based diet
So the guy quotes studies saying that most people in this country are unhealthy, yet most people in this country are not whole food plant based vegans.......so it's the vegans fault that everyone else is unhealthy???
Thanks for the great vid Mic! HIH's video was just painful to watch. Myth after myth, after anecdote after anecdote from "studies" by longterm, low carb, meat promoting, anti-vegans making money off selling low carb books. I mean come on! Drawing a human figure then stating all these made up problems that vegans don't actually suffer from when looking at the evidence is not science! smh. Vegan 29yrs. My blood work is excellent. After my 45+ checkup, the nurse ringing me up about my blood results said they're the best she's seen in yr's and asked me what my secret was. Happy healthy, no anxiety etc.
I used to be plagued with cold sores, one would go as another appeared, yuk, yes I know. I became vegan eight years ago, I've had three cold sores in that time.
LMAO at his attrition rate suppositions. I have never felt better (and everyone I know who has gone vegetarian or vegan is the same in that). Side: I’ve been vegan for 8 years and was vegetarian for 4.5 years before that. I haven’t had any of these supposed issue. Maybe just me 😅
I've been vegan 28 years. So my body (and joints) have regenerated 4 TIMES since the last time I ate cologen. My joints are great. When I hear about joint pain etc, I have no idea what that's like. Can't relate.
I’m gonna put spices in veggie capsules and sell them saying they’re collagen and amino acids. Gonna make money and make meat eaters actually feel better.
I love how no matter what the problem is the answer is always needing more fat, collagen, and protein. I’m by no means a scientist, but would suggest that moods initially change when someone changes their diet until the body adjusts. The gut flora is changing, and the person is no longer dosing with their drug of choice (junk foods).
Hi , meat eater here, I have listened to a wide variety of anecdotes on both sides of this debate, and I have arrived at the conclusion that there is not a one fits all dietary regime. I am currently on a time restricted diet, just quit alcohol for good thank GOD, and I supplement my protein intake with a plant based protein powder. I am also very serious about my greens. We humans are basically omnivore , hunters , gatherers, live stock keepers and crop growers for millennia. I think it is incumbent on everyone of us to find the right nutritional balsnce to meet our needs.
I think greens are terrible for you actually. there are very little nutrients in greens. you can get much more eating fruits and meat, MUCH MORE. meat is the most nutrient dense food on the planet.
4:17 More and more people have thinning hair, yet no one is talking about how we are all subjected to more and more radiation. We all have WIFI, we all carry our cell phones in our pockets, with our phones constantly pinging off cell towers. Does no one else find it suspect that no studies on this are being published?😮 Mic thanks so much for debunking this bunk with Receipts 👍👍👍
I’m vegan, I live in Kentucky. I guarantee you my two pints of Ben and Jerry’s in my shopping cart doesn’t come close to the mountains of Doritos and bacon and shredded cheese that I see in other carts.
Reading through the testimonials in this thread, I’m struck by how much it mirrors what is said by people going full bore carnivore! Can we allow “different strokes for different folks?” Maybe different bodies have different needs, and every body has different needs at different stages of life? One thing I am sure about is the SAD is good for no-one except big-agriculture and big-pharma. Beyond that, I’m still researching. Very interesting to say the least….
@@tamcon72Many I’ve listened to have been carnivore for years. Others decades, yes. There are whole cultures whose traditional diets have consisted of exclusively or primarily animal products and they are extremely strong and healthy with well-formed teeth, etc. Have you ever read the research of Weston Price?
@@lornadoone8887 I don't believe you: This diet is a fad of the last few years, and the outliers don't count as evidence of anything, anymore than long-term strict plant-eaters in these comments do. But the bulk of clinical data supports the anecdotes of the plant eaters, rather than the carnivores. Weston Price was a dentist. A dentist of training that has been obsolete for decades, and which did not include ANY training in anthropology, paleo-anthropology, or clinical medicine. He is not credible. And the opinions of people who consider his ideas--which hewed borderline eugenicist--credible are not credible, either.
After having covid my hair really got thin and starting balding, apparently it is a side effect of the illness, after six months my hair strated to grow normal 😅😅 (maybe that's why he see more balding people) Irregular periods are also a side effect (no one talks about it and I remember getting super scared )
People don’t realize there are some foods we can’t have. I can’t have corn and oranges, my husband can’t have olives and bananas. That is why I go based on the blood type diet while eating raw vegan. It’s good to find out what you body can not handle.
The only problem I ever had with the vegan diet was after 3 and a half years I ran out of B12 and iron, because I didn't keep up with my supplements. So that was my mistake.
I wish there was more research and discussion about atherosclerotic disease and lumbar degenerative disc disease. If it hasn't already been done, shouldn't the diagnosis of DDD be a trigger to test for ASCVD, just like it should be for the diagnosis of ED?
I am 58. I've been vegetarian for over 35 years and a lot of my food is vegan. I walk between 3-4 hours EVERY morning and this does not include working around the house(fruit trees, lawn work, cleaning up) and I have NEVER felt better or stronger. WTF is that guy talking about?
Actually, I suffered severely with extreme debilitating depression BEFORE I changed to a vegan plant based diet! NOW I have a very satisfying life free of depression and have now passed menopause WITHOUT any symptoms at all! I so do not understand why these people are so obsessed with and feel so threatened by people who choose to eat plants! We choose to eat our vitamins, mineral, and antioxidants straight from the source rather then second hand through another living being.
I know of a few people who went vegan but strangely they came out of the closet 3 years later. I'm not sure if it's because of a vegan diet tanking their testosterone and turned them gay, or that they were gay to begin with and were inclined towards a vegan diet, and coming out of the closet had nothing to do with their shift in dietary lifestyle.
Weird, I've been depressed ever since I was eating animals. Sure, I still have it(more factors go into it than just diet) but it doesn't feel as debilitating as before. That's the only thing I've changed. Anecdotal of course, but I can't be the only outlier =)
Most people I know with joint inflammation and osteoporosis/osteoarthritis are heavy meat/dairy eaters, so any studies regarding calcium intake and these health issues seem a bit funky to me. I don't know any vegan/vegetarian that have so much of these issues. They eat healthy though too. They aren't eating junk food.
What did you say at 17:58? "We clearly can't be healthy on a fully riverous diet"? Was that supposed to be "omnivorous"? But if so, we CAN be healthy on an omnivorous diet, as long as plants are still at least 80% of your calories (I pulled that number out of thin air)!
It's weird, when I open the description of this video and many others I can't read it because it's gray (except for the links). Is anybody else having this issue? Is it just a setting on my phone?
That’s interesting! I knew a couple people with anemia who were told by their doctors to eat more red meat. One of those people got rid of her anemia by eating leafy greens, not meat. Cast iron skillet can also help
I LOVE THESE! 😂 I watched my husband’s nutritional videos for his new workout program and wished I could send it to you to rip in to Mic 🤣 No raw veggies, he said his body “failed him” as a vegan, he thinks yoga is for flexible people. I was like “dude, I’d fire him”. But to each their own 🤷🏽♀️ once he feels stronger I’ll be adding more plants again.
The standard american diet (sad) is very deficient in fiber but due to our over consumption of food other deficiencies are rare and make the concern over deficiencies a waste of time imo. Americans need to eat less not worry about not eating enough meat lol. These meat promoters seem to talk a lot about vegans eating junk food lol. Amercians in general eat a ton of junk food so instead if going after vegans they would do better to talk about over eating and junk food in general. Their audience would be much more broad. Unfortunately they get engagement through outrage and using the us vs them mentality.
This man is outright lying. I have doubt about the validity of his research. Obviously he is paid by the animal agriculture. Utterly pathetic. As always, Mic, you effortlessly defeat false claims. Thank you.
My anecdote is that I've always been a mess and I'm still a mess lolol it has nothing to do with my veganism but rather disability and such, but my life expectancy is notably higher on a vegan diet than it would be on an omnivorous given it's good for stuffs
16.30 approx was told my lumbar disc degeneration was due to work/pressure...would like to read this study. During my decades as vegetarian before going vegan I did eat a lot of cheese so maybe fat could have reduced blood supply too... Is it available free?
Wow ! I use to watch High Intensity Health all the time . I was really thrown back when he came up with this study. I haven't had red meat in 43 years chicken fish and dairy 35 years . I'm 68 . I squat 175, bench press 110, deadlift 175 curl 60 pounds 70 on a good day. Haven't been sick in over 40 years., all on a plant base diet.
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Wow you guys are goals😊
Yes, if you want muscle you exercise, simple as that. I have not eaten meat since 1970. No dairy or eggs since 2011. Same weight as my whole adult life and healthy as ever at 65. Recently learned to hold handstands much longer, and can once again do backbends after having some problems with it in my twenties (was born with a curved spine). I also do my splits better than ever and learned to do the crow and more. Getting better at everything right now, and it's because of exercise and general health. If I had covid I didn't notice. No vaccine, but I tried to protect the weak in other ways. I've had 3 light colds in 12 years. As a vegetarian I had them every year, though.
@@carinaekstrom1 Given your past commentary, i'd say being intelligent, well-learned can be added to your resume. :) I love people who approach information scientifically and can respect it. You're going strong and healthy and hope you will for many more decades, cheers.
@@Kristers_K Those were sweet words, thank you, and the same back to you!
The Rich Roll part was so ridiculous. That was from a podcast with Peter Attia as a guest, where Attia mentioned that he was having the same issues a few years back, when he was much younger than Rich Roll and eating a meat heavy diet. Could he be more biased? 😂
Back injuries are very common among gym bro's lacking real training out to break their personal best in a deadlift. It has nothing to do with diet. Attia has even talked about the foolishness of his lifting routine in the past.
@@Magnulus76 that is my point. But apparently if the injured athlete is vegan… it must be due to his diet!
When you get all your data from the back of a keto cereal box
Magic spoon ?
I've been Vegan for 5 years I don't get sick and I've never felt better at age 41 no supplements no medication only plant power. My friends say I'm reverse aging. Best thing I've done for myself. I started by going plant based was inspired by the game changers movie..
🙌🙌💖🌎💖🙌🙌 Sending Love. Thank you
What exactly do you eat? Cuz I've tried every starch and I guess I just have candida or yeast over growth and I cannot handle starches so I'm stuck with just various herbs and cruciferous veges. I can handle certain nuts like macadamia and pretty much anything expensive like that... So hard to figure out. I get the worst depression I can't even describe, legit suicidal, yea it gets that bad.. If you have any ideas I'm all ears.
@John Fish I only drink water preferably spring water and juices and coffee teas every once in a while. Try avoiding anything processed. I wake up at 5am every morning I film the sunrise just a habit of mine another reason I'm healthy..SUN 🌞🙌🙌🙌 I start with coffee in the morning I make Espresso the Cuban way then when I get hungry I eat an organic banana sometimes two. I'll have a bagel with garlic powder nutritional yeast roasted red peppers fresh dill from my garden sometimes. Also over night oats are great option too. Oats coconut milk and raisins is how i like it. I drink water all day long. Legumes Avocados any Fruits potatoes spinach arugula kale..I love garlic...just try and eat real food from the earth grown organically. For dinner I'll make a pasta with sautéed mushrooms garlic onions spinach splash of lemon and vegan white wine some capers mmmmmm. Mushrooms are your friend I actually just started growing lions mane so easy to grow perpetual food supply ;) and healthy you can use it as meat substitute for gourmet dishes ;) Just eat whenever you feel hungry forget everything they taught you about 3 meals a day food pyramid b.s. just do what you feel and follow your highest excitement at all times with no expectations of the outcome and you'll always be in the right place at the right time...the universe has your back..you will feel better...stay positive and go for nature walk or hit the beach for sunrise or sunset if your close. 🌞♾️💞
@@oceansunrisestudio So how do you get enough Omega-3 and Choline for long term brain health?
You need to supplement in B12 if not long term, you are going to have problems.
@@Crazeefish313 Do you live in the US?
I know several anemics and they all eat meat. When I ate meat I also was anemic, which went away after I went vegan.
My husband & I have been plant based for 8 years. Best decision we have ever made. 👍🌱🥰 65 and feeling amazing!
Been vegan 11 years. All my anxiety is money-related. I don’t think eating a steak would fix that.
Exactly. Fleeting pleasure at the expense of an animal, won't cure depression.
Ha ha, well, we do save some money not buying meat but I hear you. My job gives me daily angina, but eating meat won’t make my company hire more people, or create logical structures for our work.
Actually, you may be deficient in lithium. Its a little known essential mineral that helps with cortisol regulation. Try getting it tested with your doctor, or you can try lithium orotate OTC 1-5mg. It has lots of interactions though so please check with your doctor beforehand. I take it instead of lithium carbonate, prescribed by psychiatrists for bipolar disorder and I have been in remission since I have started. ❤
I hope this helps.
Nonono, a steak would make you forget all you problems. Leucine is just magical. It magically makes money appear on your bank account. That’s why vegans are poor.
B vitamin related you mean
When I went vegan 5 years ago, I reversed heart disease, type 2 diabetes & hypertension. Also my depression & anxiety, which I had suffered from for many years, totally disappeared.
I'm now the healthiest & happiest I've ever been 😊
My anecdote: I run faster than I did in high school as long distance athlete as a vegan pushing 40. My vegan pregnancies were healthier and vegan deliveries easier. My mental health since being vegan has been incredibly better than when I was a carnist/omnivore. Although, I have also been sober this whole time so I think that also contributes to this. On the superficial side, I get told I look 25-28 even though I am almost 40. My skin is always clear and I had never achieved that as an ominvore. What I appreciate most about being vegan is what is had done for my me empathetically speaking. I feel and long to act for the betterment of the planet, the animals, and my fellow humans having lived nearly 7 years with this kind of empathy and love.
The contrast between these two Michaels is stark. One cites anecdotes, one questionable paper, and thin air. The other cites dozens of studies, primary and meta-analyses, to back up everything he says.
High Intensity Mike likes to say "Let's look at the science." Yeah, let's.
I just had my 7 year veganniversary!! I went plant-based for health to reverse my autoimmune disease. The only flare I had was during my 2nd pregnancy (high WBC count), but have been so much healthier than I used to be as an omnivore!! I now have 2 happy healthy kids - both vegan since conception 🙊
Also this comment section is a wealth of vegan success anecdotes 😂❤
You're too nice. The man's a walking example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, and so are his viewers who credit him with any expertise. Good job picking his "facts and science" apart, and thanks for posting!
I have an identical twin brother. I’m vegan, he’s not. I have more hair and better health. I’d say our overall happiness is comparable. But aside from my the anectotal evidence; I don’t care if being vegan is more or less healthy than being an omnivore. I care about the animals and environment and if that means I live a shorter less healthy live, so be it; so far it works out fine for me (veggy for 20 years, vegan for 6).
Frankly speaking I've been far less depressed since going vegan, even though our trajectory as a species is far more bleak than it has ever been, and worries me. the far reaching
power of disinformation echo chambers , is especially worrisome.
Also, I'm kinder and more patient since being vegan.
Also it cured my anemia.
Also my hair, nails and skin have improved tremendously. Mind you , I generally eat healthy, clean, lots of fresh greens and fruits , which has likely contributed.
If I were a junk food vegan I'd probably be no better off than a carnivor
Here again. How did you cure your anemia ( what form? ) with vegan food?
@@Gaia_Seraphina By eating properly, you eating disordered buffoon. It's called food, shocking, i know. Legumes, greens, grains, etc, all have an abundance of bioavailable iron, bioavailability naturally increased further by vitamin C. Don't blame veganism just because you don't know how to eat in the first place.
Same thing here , with the carnivore diet 🥩❤️
@Gaia Seraphina so when I went vegan I did it for compassionate reasons/ethics despite being anemic. I didn't know that anemia could be reversed. So it's just something that happened within less than a year of going vegan. It was a long time ago so there weren't many fake meats and cheeses, they weren't tasty and didn't interest me. I didn't know how to be vegan, there wasn't any social media yet. So I just the same except that my salads became the bulk of my meal where previously it was a small side dish. And I used to make fresh apple juice and pop it in the blender with 2 cups kale, a banana and about 1 cup frozen blueberries . That was my appetizer, I'd drink it while making dinner.
I'm just typing anything I can remember about the early days bc that's when the anemia got reversed.
Also, I cut out wheat and sugar, I'd use banana to sweeten my cookies and cakes. In place of wheat, I'd put oats in a food processor and turn it into flour .
Also I started eating a much greater variety of vegetables and in larger quantities to replace the meat. B4 the veggies were just a tiny portion of my meal with meat being the bulk. I loved meat. Breakfast lunch and dinner. Beef lamb pork chicken fish seafood. Once in a while I crave lobster and shrimp but it passes quickly and it's always when I haven't eaten enough. However, the smell of meat cooking males my stomach turn and burns my nostrils, though I'll be honest, I did crave meat the first few years but the knowledge of the suffering of the animals easily kept me steadfast. I also used to make butternut squash curry alot , something I never used to eat. And next day I'd turn the leftovers into cutlets using the squash and oatflour. I'd steam broccoli, pulse it in the processor with onions and garlic salt pepper, then pulse in the oatflour for broccoli cutlets. Beans weren't really on my radar, but I did make a pot of lentil vegetable soup weekly.
For my morning lattes I used ricemilk in place of dairy milk.
That apple juice kale blueberry smoothie was a daily thing, kept it up for first few years, until life changes didn't allow for enough time. Now I use water instead of apple juice.
That's all I can remember. hopeIt helps ❤
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I just remembered, back then I stayed away from soy, unless it was fermented (miso), bc I had read it caused hormonal imbalances and it scared me lol
I eat alot of organic tofu now, love it.
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My, that's ALL what you can remember? 😄
I can't even remember what I've eaten the day before yesterday.😅
People tell me I look healthier than ever. I can't tell if it's good nutrition or a clear conscience. Eating dismembered body parts is kind of psychotic. V4L 💚🍎🥑
I enjoy these debunking debunking videos
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great work mic, thank you. I've been vegan for 11 years, aged 60 and still alive and healthy!! I hope he watches this.
Well done. Oh, I always learn something. I am so glad you are on our side because you’re a very skilled at researching and reporting this information.
even if he was right, and it was worse than that, I would not ever go back to eating, wearing or paying for the abuse and exploitation of non-humans. veganforlife ❤
But you're fine with abusing and exploiting humans ?
I'm sorry , I'm gonna have to revoke your vegan card.
@@FreshGreenMoss where does it say I exploit humans?
@@FreshGreenMoss It is the meatindustry and fishingindustries that abuse and exploit humans on a mass scale too.
@veganforlife You excluded human animals, and that's speiciesest , so you're not a real vegan . Sorry , I don't make the rules.
Perhaps you can call yourself a misanthropic vegan.
@@FreshGreenMoss you forgot a /s there
Someone who doesn't understand that correlation doesnt equal causation has the guts to talk about depression.
These people love telling us how correlation doesn't equal causation when we cite the large epidemiology studies, but then they instantly forget and start making the most spurious correlations imaginable .
These people are immune to hypocrisy.
So I ate vegan for about a year before I started giving in again...... during that time, my anxiety and depression almost vanished. It came back when I increased the standard American diet. I'm going back on a whole foods plant based diet and it is improving again
Love these debunking videos. It says a lot that you actually cite things.
At 56 and vegan I am stronger lifting weights and more fit for cycling than I had ever been as an omnivore. My recovery time is a couple hours, not days, and DOMS is almost non existent. My cholesterol, blood pressure, and heart rate are all low. Removing animal products from my diet has done nothing but improve my life and my health.
Thanks for taking the time to properly debunk this stuff.
Dude lives in matrix. Vegan did only Good in my life, no negatives effects...
I was low carb for years and I was able to maintain a good weight during that time, but eventually it caught up to me and I had neurological damage. Eaten plant-based with plenty of fruit and starch healed me.
Great de-bunk again Mic! This one was almost tooo easy 😂
I didn't expect it to be even that bad and unscientific!
6 years of keto/carnivore left me with health issues this man is trying to put on veganism: sarcopenia (and a big one, I was skin and bones), suicidal thoughts (I asked my brother to take care of my son if something should happen to me), joint destruction (left knee, right thigh, wrists), hair loss and hair thinning due to high cortisol and my thyroid slowly giving up on me, much more frequent migraines than I'd experienced before dropping carbohydrates (this was the reason why I started the keto experiment), nausea, cyclical vomiting syndrome (once a month lasting 3 days - pure agony), EXTREME methane SIBO (and I mean EXTREME), painful bowel movements every 6 days, arrhythmia and pain in the chest (I couldn't sleep on the left side for the last year on this diet), cholesterol nearly 400, LDL 270. Since I transitioned back to eating 99% plants (which was painful, I killed many of the beneficial bacteria species by eating little to zero carbs) the only thing I am left with and still trying to heal is painful joints but I understand it must take time. If anyone has been suffering from arthritis of any kind and managed to heal on a vegan diet, I'd be grateful for some tips. I still eat 80 g of sardines in olive oil once a week, other than that, zero animal foods.
If you want to go fully vegan , you can swap the sardines for bivalves such as oysters and mussels.
Like plants, bivalves don't have brains , so they can't mind if we eat them .
I like to grill them in garlic butter.
I'd ditch the sardines and olive oil, these do nothing good for your health. The fish in our oceans are all polluted with plastics, pesticides and whatnot and no oil is healthy, pufa oils get rancid really quickly forming the toxic hydroxynonenal and olive oils isn't a pufa but a mufa but still has 12% saturated fat.
Long term Fasting or long term exercise gets rid of most autoimmune disease and maybe cancers due to the breaking down / autophagy of faulty cells. Healthy eating wont breakdown autoimmune cells but does reduce inflammation from them and rebuilds healthy cells that have been broken down fom fasting or exercise.
@@ttt72772 Thank you. I have a very unpleasant experience with fasting maybe beacuse I had severe electrolyte imbalance due to zero carb diet when I tried to water fast. I know that autophagy starts at 15-16hr fast so I hope now when my electrolytes are pretty much ok I can handle it. Yes, when I don't eat the pain subsides. It must be autoimmune.
@@FreshGreenMoss than you, oysters are high in zinc so I guess it's a great substitution 👍
Yeah I’m depressed. Depressed by the depravity of humans and what they ignorantly do to animals whilst stating they love animals.
The term vegan just says what is NOT eaten, it doesn't say anything about what exactly is being eaten which makes all the difference where diet is concerned. Seeing as how there is no one way to do a vegan diet, some vegan diets can be very healthy while other vegan diets can be very unhealthy. It all depends on what exactly is eaten in the diet.
Depression in my life was associated with my overconsumption of dairy, McDonalds, Chick-fil-A, Whataburger, etc. etc. etc. I was also consuming processed foods including milk chocolate, sugar laden processed cakes, cookies, "protein bars" etc. etc. etc. Zero veggies and fruits.
Question. If his omnivore diet is so great why does he own a supplement company?
This comment, right here. Excellence 🔥
Always be closing.
I was depressed and anxious long before I went vegan. Actually I’m better since going vegan. Not cured but better.
had 1 cold in the last 10 years.
I keep wondering about the motivation of these die hard meat eaters. Like… why?! When they want to convince people veganism is dangerous and they know they’re lying, is it just a way of being defensive about eating meat when they know they shouldn’t? Would be an interesting video to delve into the psychological phenomenon of these meat lovers. I always wonder about it and I can’t figure it out.
My anxiety went away when i went vegan 15 years ago. Ive been thriving ever since. Gaining muscle too
Wow! So glad you did this video! I saw Mike Mutzel's post a couple days ago and was appalled by how sloppy it was. What the heck happened to him? I've always respected his exercise advice but now I'm suspect.
He is just trying to point out how deficiencies can be avoided, should they become apparent, and how animal foods can be helpful in that scenario.
@@TomasGrannNo he's not. He's specifically focusing on how "nutrient deficiencies may be present on a plant based diet" because animal foods aren't present. He makes essentially no mention of the much larger percentage of the population eating animal foods that is also nutrient deficient. Example - about 0.5% of the country is vegan, yet over 75% of the country is vitamin D deficient. Even if EVERY vegan was D deficient, 3/4 of everyone else is also vitamin D deficient. His logic suggests D deficient carnivores should simply eat more meat. This is nothing more than a thinly veiled and poorly executed hit piece on vegans. And for the record, no, I'm not vegan.
@@jackvegas3705 Yes, to my point of deficiencies, such as a plant based diet very much can contribute to. Is he really stating such logic in suggesting more meats, greater chances for solutions? I got the memo he advocated for a omnivorous way of eating and sees solely plant eating to be of concern. I don’t subscribe to the idea that because none vegans are also deficient (example vitamin d you give, which is an issue bigger than only in regard to food intake), thus plant based is somewhat standing in a neutral position. That’s in my opinion a lazy way of reasoning and ignores the bigger picture, one that plants and avoidance of meats will most probably not fix. Well I guess it’s of curtesy that you inform me you’re not vegan, but regardless, I don’t care. I hope you and others see through team-A versus team-B and are able to make a better quality of living by finding out for themselves what works and what doesn’t. That’s why I like to read vegans write about good results just as the ‘opposite’ that is nowadays carnivores, and with that said, wishing you to eat and live good in the bright future of yours.
Mic, re: the whole back and joint pain thing over 50... I can only speak from my own experience here, but I have back and joint issues. After consulting several docs and trying a myriad of healing modalities, I have come to some conclusions. 1) You can wreck your future body unwittingly by eating like crap (meaning, junk food, sugar, oils, eating out of balance, etc.), not exercising at all or properly, being overweight, or being stressed out when you're younger. So, you younger folks? Get informed and take care of yourself. Your future body with thank you. 2) I've been getting my bloodwork done very regularly to see if my diet/lifestyle tweaks are pulling my numbers down. The ONLY thing that has worked on getting my inflammation markers down has been a WFPB (including no oil and sugar and low salt) diet. Does that mean I advocate that for everyone? Nope. But I am saying that it's brought my weight down, my pain down, and blood numbers down. The reality of all those issues coming up after 50 may just be flower that bloomed from what was planted earlier... if you get me.
It's kind of hard to watch these people say the same crap. I'm glad you are here to debunk them. I like hearing your info but i can't stand watching their clips
These people who twist the narrative are harmful. This guy shouldn't have a platform.... thanks for covering his lies, Mike.
In society meat eating has gone up, yet he blames depression on people eating more plantbased. When they don't. Ok.
I've been irritaded on this guy's blatant bias and misinformation for a while.
Thank you so much for all your work!
They also never seem to know or care to mention that veganism is not a diet. It is a way of life that mirrors your ethics/morals.
Vegan for 15 years. Get blood tests every year. The only vitamin deficiency that I had was Vitamin D which is low in most North Americans irrespective of diet type. I supplement with D and B12 but I’ve never been low in B12 even when I didn’t supplement the first 5 years I was Vegan.
All protein comes from plants. Most animals that these folks eat are herbivores.
I am a massage therapist and I must say that most omnivores have joint issues and back problems too! It's certainly not a vegan issue
Thanks for all your work, Mic. 💚💚💚
Top notch, Mic! Keep on standing for Truth!
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Been vegan 32+ years and the last few years have been hilarious with all the new anti-vegan angles the dead-animal-eaters are coming up with, what a time to be alive. 😂
As a non-vegan, i used to suffer from almost daily joint pain. Since switching to a vegan diet about 7 years ago.
My only regret about going vegan is not doing it sooner
Re vegans and depression: After becoming an ethical vegan and realizing there’s realistically no end in sight for the torture of animals because of people’s stubborn desire to eat them and their excretions, I became pretty depressed. TH-camrs like this one being debunked who refuse to have an ounce of compassion or look at actual unbiased data breaks my heart for the animals. And I’m sad for those whose health is harmed because of perpetuating misinformation from animal eaters.
All you say is true, and it is heartbreaking, but veganism is growing despite far reaching corporate
carnist propaganda. There is a bright light, hang in there ❤
11 years 100% plant-based and it was the best decision of my life and I have never been healthier!!!
I was going to watch it but then i knew it was going to be biased 😂 thanks for debunking it. All i can say is 60percent of americans are overweight or obesed and that is certainly not from plant based diet
Remember kids, if you wish to grow big and strong; eat your vegetables. 💪🏼🥑👍🏼
So the guy quotes studies saying that most people in this country are unhealthy, yet most people in this country are not whole food plant based vegans.......so it's the vegans fault that everyone else is unhealthy???
You got to love bro caveman science
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Thanks for the great vid Mic! HIH's video was just painful to watch. Myth after myth, after anecdote after anecdote from "studies" by longterm, low carb, meat promoting, anti-vegans making money off selling low carb books. I mean come on! Drawing a human figure then stating all these made up problems that vegans don't actually suffer from when looking at the evidence is not science! smh. Vegan 29yrs. My blood work is excellent. After my 45+ checkup, the nurse ringing me up about my blood results said they're the best she's seen in yr's and asked me what my secret was. Happy healthy, no anxiety etc.
14:00 why is the word "vegan" censored in that figure? 😂
4 and a half years in and I definitely have less depression then when I was vegetarian or omnivore.
I used to be plagued with cold sores, one would go as another appeared, yuk, yes I know. I became vegan eight years ago, I've had three cold sores in that time.
Depresión could be for kmowing whate happen to an animals,the injustice we comit tour them
empathic people may be more susceptible to it.
@@goku445 true. we are, but going vegan has literally made me more emotionally resilient, even though seeing the ugly truth unfiltered is hard.
"a knowledge of what happens to the animals and the injustice we commit towards them may cause depression." sorry, my OCD-like kicked in ...
He "sees more and more ppl with thinning hair" 🤔🤣
LMAO at his attrition rate suppositions. I have never felt better (and everyone I know who has gone vegetarian or vegan is the same in that). Side: I’ve been vegan for 8 years and was vegetarian for 4.5 years before that. I haven’t had any of these supposed issue. Maybe just me 😅
I've been vegan 28 years. So my body (and joints) have regenerated 4 TIMES since the last time I ate cologen. My joints are great. When I hear about joint pain etc, I have no idea what that's like. Can't relate.
I’ve just started the video and I’m already laughing my butt off… this is fun watching you crush his bs. Good job Mic
I’m gonna put spices in veggie capsules and sell them saying they’re collagen and amino acids. Gonna make money and make meat eaters actually feel better.
I love how no matter what the problem is the answer is always needing more fat, collagen, and protein. I’m by no means a scientist, but would suggest that moods initially change when someone changes their diet until the body adjusts. The gut flora is changing, and the person is no longer dosing with their drug of choice (junk foods).
Very good. 👌 Again. 🤗. Thanks.
Hi , meat eater here, I have listened to a wide variety of anecdotes on both sides of this debate, and I have arrived at the conclusion that there is not a one fits all dietary regime. I am currently on a time restricted diet, just quit alcohol for good thank GOD, and I supplement my protein intake with a plant based protein powder. I am also very serious about my greens. We humans are basically omnivore , hunters , gatherers, live stock keepers and crop growers for millennia. I think it is incumbent on everyone of us to find the right nutritional balsnce to meet our needs.
I think greens are terrible for you actually. there are very little nutrients in greens. you can get much more eating fruits and meat, MUCH MORE. meat is the most nutrient dense food on the planet.
I guess despite all that extra animal protein, this guy lacks the nutrients to not use anecdotal and opinion based "research" 😂
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More and more people have thinning hair, yet no one is talking about how we are all subjected to more and more radiation.
We all have WIFI, we all carry our cell phones in our pockets, with our phones constantly pinging off cell towers.
Does no one else find it suspect that no studies on this are being published?😮
Mic thanks so much for debunking this bunk with Receipts 👍👍👍
always coming back to your videos 🙏
eating disorders are probably higher relative to any diet (including Carnivore)
I’m vegan, I live in Kentucky. I guarantee you my two pints of Ben and Jerry’s in my shopping cart doesn’t come close to the mountains of Doritos and bacon and shredded cheese that I see in other carts.
I find his video to be more comedic than informational!! Thanks, for pointing out all of his inconsistencies and strawmen examples!
You're a treasure, Mic ❤️
Reading through the testimonials in this thread, I’m struck by how much it mirrors what is said by people going full bore carnivore! Can we allow “different strokes for different folks?” Maybe different bodies have different needs, and every body has different needs at different stages of life?
One thing I am sure about is the SAD is good for no-one except big-agriculture and big-pharma. Beyond that, I’m still researching.
Very interesting to say the least….
You've encountered people doing a carnivore diet for 30 or more years? LOL.
@@tamcon72Many I’ve listened to have been carnivore for years. Others decades, yes. There are whole cultures whose traditional diets have consisted of exclusively or primarily animal products and they are extremely strong and healthy with well-formed teeth, etc. Have you ever read the research of Weston Price?
@@lornadoone8887 I don't believe you: This diet is a fad of the last few years, and the outliers don't count as evidence of anything, anymore than long-term strict plant-eaters in these comments do. But the bulk of clinical data supports the anecdotes of the plant eaters, rather than the carnivores.
Weston Price was a dentist. A dentist of training that has been obsolete for decades, and which did not include ANY training in anthropology, paleo-anthropology, or clinical medicine. He is not credible. And the opinions of people who consider his ideas--which hewed borderline eugenicist--credible are not credible, either.
❤ Amazing! Keep up the good work. I always enjoy your videos. Thank you.
I’m slowly thinking about transitioning to being vegan again (I left for a few years) and this video is helping me so much!
when my wife was following the vegan diet that I currently follow, most of her symptoms of PCOS went into remission.
After having covid my hair really got thin and starting balding, apparently it is a side effect of the illness, after six months my hair strated to grow normal 😅😅 (maybe that's why he see more balding people) Irregular periods are also a side effect (no one talks about it and I remember getting super scared )
People don’t realize there are some foods we can’t have. I can’t have corn and oranges, my husband can’t have olives and bananas. That is why I go based on the blood type diet while eating raw vegan. It’s good to find out what you body can not handle.
The only problem I ever had with the vegan diet was after 3 and a half years I ran out of B12 and iron, because I didn't keep up with my supplements. So that was my mistake.
I wish there was more research and discussion about atherosclerotic disease and lumbar degenerative disc disease. If it hasn't already been done, shouldn't the diagnosis of DDD be a trigger to test for ASCVD, just like it should be for the diagnosis of ED?
I am 58. I've been vegetarian for over 35 years and a lot of my food is vegan. I walk between 3-4 hours EVERY morning and this does not include working around the house(fruit trees, lawn work, cleaning up) and I have NEVER felt better or stronger. WTF is that guy talking about?
Actually, I suffered severely with extreme debilitating depression BEFORE I changed to a vegan plant based diet! NOW I have a very satisfying life free of depression and have now passed menopause WITHOUT any symptoms at all! I so do not understand why these people are so obsessed with and feel so threatened by people who choose to eat plants! We choose to eat our vitamins, mineral, and antioxidants straight from the source rather then second hand through another living being.
I know of a few people who went vegan but strangely they came out of the closet 3 years later. I'm not sure if it's because of a vegan diet tanking their testosterone and turned them gay, or that they were gay to begin with and were inclined towards a vegan diet, and coming out of the closet had nothing to do with their shift in dietary lifestyle.
Weird, I've been depressed ever since I was eating animals. Sure, I still have it(more factors go into it than just diet) but it doesn't feel as debilitating as before. That's the only thing I've changed. Anecdotal of course, but I can't be the only outlier =)
Most people I know with joint inflammation and osteoporosis/osteoarthritis are heavy meat/dairy eaters, so any studies regarding calcium intake and these health issues seem a bit funky to me. I don't know any vegan/vegetarian that have so much of these issues. They eat healthy though too. They aren't eating junk food.
What did you say at 17:58? "We clearly can't be healthy on a fully riverous diet"? Was that supposed to be "omnivorous"? But if so, we CAN be healthy on an omnivorous diet, as long as plants are still at least 80% of your calories (I pulled that number out of thin air)!
It's weird, when I open the description of this video and many others I can't read it because it's gray (except for the links). Is anybody else having this issue? Is it just a setting on my phone?
My wife cured an persistent anemia when she turned vegan, in fact.
That’s interesting! I knew a couple people with anemia who were told by their doctors to eat more red meat. One of those people got rid of her anemia by eating leafy greens, not meat. Cast iron skillet can also help
I LOVE THESE! 😂 I watched my husband’s nutritional videos for his new workout program and wished I could send it to you to rip in to Mic 🤣 No raw veggies, he said his body “failed him” as a vegan, he thinks yoga is for flexible people. I was like “dude, I’d fire him”. But to each their own 🤷🏽♀️ once he feels stronger I’ll be adding more plants again.
The standard american diet (sad) is very deficient in fiber but due to our over consumption of food other deficiencies are rare and make the concern over deficiencies a waste of time imo. Americans need to eat less not worry about not eating enough meat lol. These meat promoters seem to talk a lot about vegans eating junk food lol. Amercians in general eat a ton of junk food so instead if going after vegans they would do better to talk about over eating and junk food in general. Their audience would be much more broad. Unfortunately they get engagement through outrage and using the us vs them mentality.
This man is outright lying. I have doubt about the validity of his research. Obviously he is paid by the animal agriculture. Utterly pathetic. As always, Mic, you effortlessly defeat false claims. Thank you.
My anecdote is that I've always been a mess and I'm still a mess lolol it has nothing to do with my veganism but rather disability and such, but my life expectancy is notably higher on a vegan diet than it would be on an omnivorous given it's good for stuffs
4:33 come on Mic, we know that’s a wig on top of your dome! 😂
Glad you're still doing these videos. Lifting Vegan Logic is also doing an amazing job breaking these down.
16.30 approx was told my lumbar disc degeneration was due to work/pressure...would like to read this study. During my decades as vegetarian before going vegan I did eat a lot of cheese so maybe fat could have reduced blood supply too... Is it available free?
Great video Mic, thank you!