Broken Vise Restoration
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2017
- I found this old vise pretty cheap and thought it would make an excellent restoration project as it swivels in two directions and is very heavy. Little did I know that it had a complete break in the main shaft with the front jaw snapped off! All is not lost though - I was still keen to try to give this old tool a new lease of life.
Disclaimer: I am no welder and I don’t profess to be. From my research, I have read that it can be difficult to weld these back together. This will not be used under heavy applications and is not intended to be. I understand that at some point it could crack again. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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This is the perfect TH-cam video for DIYers. No music. No unnecessary commentary. No time wasted, and the work flow accompanied only by the familiar sounds of tools being used in a shop. Great camera, great camera angles and project lighting, clear in-focus images, clear shots of most of the finishes and lubricants used. Well planned flow of work, and you demonstrated some very helpful and practical DIY skills in getting this project done and in overcoming problems that needed a little ingenuity to tackle. In the full video description, it would be great to know what brand of vise it was and its age, the type of welding rod used, the type of grease used from the Vegemite jar to lube the mechanism, the reason for using the single Torx screw on one bottom jaw and 2 Phillips screws on the other, and any other details that were not obvious from the video itself. This is not a criticism, just a way of saying that your viewers are very interested in how you did things in this very successful restoration, and the choices you made in doing your work. Also, congratulations on having a very clean work area for your project and a very clean shop overall - shop cleanliness that’s a skill I’d like to have, but have never acquired.
Anonymous98 - Agreed! I think you said it all there. If only more videos were like this one - succinct and to the point, no BS and no stupid unnecessary music.
you forgot to mention no annoying dupstep opening
"No unnecessary commentary" maybe unnecessary for you, but I love to hear the thought process behind a project, the difficulties that came up while working on it. If you don't like anything but tool-sounds, just mute the video, get a child and let it bang with tools on whatever. There, your familiar "tool sound" without anything else.
Anonymous98 - Well said ! You summed this up perfectly !
Fred, I think you meant that for someone else. I simply posted that I agreed this was the perfect DIY video, with no unnecessary music or commentary. I have nothing but praise for his videos. Someone else wanted detailed explanations throughout, not me.
I fell into a TH-cam hole and ended up here... I don't own a single tool... I watched the whole thing... thumbs up :)
haha its was in my recomended and i'm same as you are.
Well hopefully it will encourage you two to get hands on and fix some things for yourself and save money, how old are you two out of interest?
I am a professional carpenter actualy, it happens that i have to do some very basic metal work occasionaly. Mostly some drilling and filing to make metal furniture parts fit but id love to get deeper into some real metal working. To bad machines are to expensive to do it as a hobby and im a little late to change my profession now. Well, youtube has to suffice to silent the voices in my head i guess.
Whats wrong with? How old im? Im just not interesting of tools restoration. I can watch, not make. I don't need that :) I can make some things with my own hands, but not everything.
If you are at all interested I would recommend you to try your hand at making/restoring it is relaxing and very rewarding when after a few days of work you have a finished project or restoration (My TH-cam is "Green Forge" if u want to take a look and if u haven't found them yet I would recommend the TH-camrs The king of random, makerj101, This Old tony,sv seaker,and Inspired to make)
My favorite vise restoration video, no stupid techno music, no stupids coulours, carefull job.
There’s two types of restorations that really work for me. The 'my mechanics' kind where everything is perfect possibly better than new. Then there’s the ones where everything is cleaned up, back to fully functioning but the history has been preserved. Yours falls into the latter which is wonderful.
Thank you for not putting some horrible music to this
Amen
Seconded
TOTALLY AGREE
Despite my advanced age, I still have the attention span of a cat on catnip... the time lapse allowed me to watch the entire thing!
Truth; Nothing better than raw sound.
I like how you show the ENTIRE process and even leave in the tiny details. Shows just how much work you put into this.
and most of the people just watch first two minutes, then skip to end or just simply go to next video...Also you know how much bandwith and time uploading 6h video takes?
I have no idea why I enjoy watching this man fix old tools. I mean, you can buy a new bench vise for short money but bringing something back to life just feels good.
It's hard to believe that even this educational video has gotten off to an early start. It was a 2017 release! It will still have me thinking about when I was in Branciforte Jr. High School. This was when I took up mechanical drawing, plastic shop, wood shop, and metal smithing classes. I sometimes just didn't have the mind of a junior high school student like I was supposed to. I sometimes had the mind of an 8 year old boy. 🏫 😪 🙃 🤔 😅 😕 🏫
I actually have this exact vise! I inherited it from my wife's great grandparents when they passed away a few years ago. It was like deja vu watching you restore yours after having restored mine two years ago. I noticed yours doesn't have the ID tag anymore, but mine does. It's an "Olympia Tools 5" Multi-Purpose Vise" model #13-025. I hope this helps find those missing pipe jaws. And I have to say, the end result looks fantastic!
I hope he sees this.
I have the same vice but no tag, is this China made ?
@@tonypike5785
Walmart online sells this vise under the Wen brand.
Alltrade sold this vise too under their brand.
It's about a $115 vise. Yes, it is Made in China vise.
Was your vice full of body filler? I too have this vice and did a sloppy restoration to get it useable as I found it in a farm Grove. The casting is very rough and tolerances are poor. Plan on a better restoration and some improvements this winter!
Tremendous amount of time and hard work at the workshop and in front of your computer/laptop . Thanks for sharing . Thumbs up for your great job .
Absolutely is very hardworking to rescue the tool but excellent work
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That box of old un-indexed drill bits!!!! Hahaha, who doesn't have that in their shop? I have like 3! Cracked me up!
Makes me wish all the world was more like metal. Years of neglect, undone in just a few days of hard work. Good job.
A first rate restoration on a very badly abused vice,I get lots of pleasure bringing things back from the dead,I also like to watch other people doing the same,you get my 5 ☆ rating for a first rate job
"I get lots of pleasure bringing things back from the dead"
It's called necromancy.
Hey, wait a minute!
Askey...a very British name if I am not mistaken.
You do some things differently than I would, which means I learn something from every one of your videos. Plus you always have exceptional results. Thanks for sharing!
This is one of the best restoration videos I’ve seen ! I wonder how many would have simply gave up on that old vise, not recognizing that it’s likely better than anything made today. You did it right too. You literally made it like new and not just made it usable, with some grease and a little paint. Thanks for sharing this ! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Love his vids! This is the first one that seemed to give him problems on disassembling. Hes a master of patience and persistence.
Nicely done! Try and find the pipe jaws that fell out at some point, they really do come in handy. Also, make sure you are not breathing in the lead paint dust or carrying it around your home from your clothes.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback! I couldn't source any pipe jaws locally - but have a look at them on the internet, I think I'll just fabricate up some simple ones, they don't look too bad. Good tip about the lead paint - I was using a respirator for all the paint work, however, probably wasn't as careful about the clothes!
Two of my favorite TH-cam historians in the same place! I love the way TH-cam brings great minds together to share and pass on the knowledge that will soon be forgot by the next generation. Keep it coming guys
i gone did ate the lead chips i are fine watchu tlkin bout?
Wow! Great restoration video…it really came out nice!
Other than you completely failing at properly welding cast together (very painful to watch that part) the rest of this video was great.
00:05 A hunk of junk; 24:31 A work of art; Master Craftsman, I salute you.
I'm surprised at how addicted I am becoming to these restoration videos. I think some of my favorite are older tools, and sometimes even vintage items. Keep up the great work!!
Bruce ck out My Mechanics restorations also, if u haven't already..
Well-done! This video is so satisfying!
If that vise could speak it would be shouting for joy at it's new life.
A fine restoration sir!!
I hate to point this out but, it would say "You've spelt my name wrong :( "
Lmao-- only way to spell vise where I come from.
However-- "Spelt" is wrong. It's >spelled
He he, it seems we are opposed in so many ways, different sides of the world as well. :)
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Beautiful job! That’ll last another 100 years!
i am sorry to say that it probably won't because it is cast iron and the way he was welding on it is never gona hold.
1 he never heated it up before he started( this will cause tit to crack because of the temperature difference) 2 he was not using a electrode ment 4 cast iron ( the proper electrode that i would recommend is normcast by hobart) 3 doing short weld like he was doing with further the shock of the material ( long stadey welds are what ya want) 4 i am glade that he has disclaimed that he does not know what he is doing .
Figure of speech my friend, figure of speech.
original name i want like that comment a hundert times. (Figure of speech as well)
traderjoes yeah Evan tho he already has 3 :)
omg ((( 505 Dislike this pipe idiots or robots ?
I really enjoyed watching this restoration. I'm also very happy to be able to hear all the ambient sound instead of music. Thanks you!!
This takes incredible dedication and patience to restored this beautiful fully functional machine. Thank you.
Damn dude that a fantastic job !! As good as new now !
When it was new, it broke in two.
I would be afraid that after all that work, I'd put something into it, and start hammering on it, and POP... the weld would break, and I would have two nice new broken vice parts.
Hell, even better than new!
I have that exact type of vice and I love it! I bought it new almost 30 years ago. I hope you can find the pipe jaws; they're so handy. The one thing about them though is that even though the set screws have a lock nut, they frequently need re-tightening; otherwise they fall out fairly easily. I put lock-tight on the threads of the set screws and lock nuts and that helps a lot. When you were cleaning off the old finish, there was more than just paint removed. When these vises came from the factory, they used a bondo like material as a skim coat over the casting to give the vise a smooth finish. It made the paint job look as smooth as though every surface was machined until the vise got chipped to reveal bare casting.
Roger that on the bondo finish. I lost one of my pipe clamp jaws and planning on making a replacement
Any idea on the make/model? I have one sitting in my garage that I'm trying to identify...
Several different companies have made these types of vises. You can still buy them new. Depending on the deal you find; you can pick one up for $60 to $250. Unfortunately the manufacture's label on mine is pretty beat up and I can't quite make out the name. I bought mine about 30 years ago at one of those club type stores; the ones where you can buy condiments by the drum.
I brought one of these vices in 1990 for $145. I got it because of the swiveling head and because it would open wide enough to clamp a crankshaft. Mine was red and looked like a fire hydrant sitting on my bench. I love it - use it all the time, used it just today.
Kaleb Dias according to this its made in Vietnam. olympiatools.com/olympia-tools/vises-anvils.html
I've never been more impressed with how you taped off the openings and made a beautiful circle.
I know how satisfied you must be feeling after each restore. Not many people know, or understand this special feeling.
Outstanding! I love restoring something to usable condition. Great satisfaction derived from keeping something out of a landfill or junkyard.
One of the best restoration videos I've seen.
Leider Geil: ohne nervendes Intro. Keine belastende TrapNation-Mucke. Kein unnötiges Gesabbel. Perfekt! Danke dafür...
I have the exact same vise. It was my brother's restoration project. But he passed away before he even got a chance to start on it. I recently decided to give it a try, and your video helped me step by step. I just need to paint it and it should be done. First time doing anything like this and first time using power tool. Lol! Thank you for your video. :)
Am I the only one who is always surprised at how many parts go into seemingly simple machines?
Joshua Defibaugh nope
Yes
You are not alone
Me as well. the main adjustment/tensioning device was far more complicated than I was expecting!
No you are not.
I live for restoration, I'm in tears. ❤
Restoration should be learned at primaries scholls to teach the significance of non descartable and non consumerism things
Colin Thomas
Lmao ✌
Who knew there were so many parts to a vice! wonderful old tool, they Don't make them like that anymore, bravo!
Dude ???? you went slap off on that vise.... TRULY A GREAT JOB you did in RESTORING IT... WOW... I would have watched this at real time... WOOO HOOO !!!!! You didn't have to say a word. You did ALL SHOWING and no telling.... BOOOM !!!!!
You have done that old vise proud Will :) What a great restoration. It will give you years of good use ॐ
Those old things were made to be used hard. Even with the critical failure of the jaws and his hobbyist repair, it'll still stand up to anything he'll throw at it
The Wood Yogi I love these tool restoration videos, they are one of my only vices. I'll get my coat...
They don't make em as good anymore... or if they do it'll be at a premium price.Cool Vice
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The Wood Yogi that’s so cool I want to do this now
wonderful one of my favorite restorations....congratulations.
This was simply GOOD MEDICINE fore me!
I'm recovering from back surgery and this is not only cool as eff to watch but is very inspiring. You keep an era alive. Like a living time capsule. Then, you use it in your shop!!!
God bless(ed) you sir.
Now, on to watch on how you made that beast of a belt sander!
Nice effort. Came out really great looking.
If your weld doesn't hold, grind away the first weld. Fixture everything the exact same way you had it. Buy some welding rod meant for cast iron repair. Put the fixtured parts and the welding rods into a 500* oven for a couple of hours to saturate the whole assembly with heat. And to remove any moisture from the rod.
Pull it out and weld it up immediately, then place it back into the oven and cycle it down in heat over a few hours.
Welding cast iron is a pain in the ass, but this is the only method that has ever had repair longevity for me.
Vises are not made from cast iron but cast steel. His welding was correct.
@@markman63 Oh, they are made of cast steel? I didn't know that.
Apparently, manufacturers like Wilton don't know it either. Because the product description for all of their vises read like:
Wilton Tradesman Vises like this 63199 #1745 have an extra heavy duty 60,000 PSI ductile iron casting.
Give 'em a call and let them know they have no idea what they're casting their own vises out of, LOL!
for a cast iron repair, if it didnt crack during welding it more than likely wont crack and will last a lifetime. there are two ways to keep it from cracking, heat it up, keep it hot while welding, and let it cool down very slowly, or dont let it get hot in the first place. not sure if you meant to or not but you kept your heat input low by not making long runs. plus that part is thick so it draws dissipates the heat well. Id say that turned out very respectable whether or not you knew what you were doing. Keep on keepin on buddy.
A good vice is made of cast steel. A really good vice is forged. A vice isn't made of cast iron. Too brittle. must be malleable/cast steel at least. Welding it is not a problem although he should have burned it in way heavier. Basically that was a bunch of heavy tack welds stacked up. No penetration, but cracking was never going to be an issue.
One of the best methods I have seen to loosen seized fasteners is to apply heat, then apply paraffin wax (for home canning) And the wax will melt and find its way down into the threads. :)
I'll have to try that sometime!
I did this on exhaust manifold bolts as I zero interest (and room) to extract broken bolts. Seemed to work a treat in that case.
I know nothing about this, but my faith is restored after watching! Good job!
Great job. I love the slight speeding up of the video, gives everything an excellent "Pat & Mat"-vibe instead seeming like a sped-up video! Delightful!
Nice Job Again! Love this vice. I seen many, but not this type. OUTSTANDING Man.
I like the vise style too. I have one or should I say a harbor freight wannabe.
one tip with the welding is to heat the metal up first, lest it penetrate further, good job.
No, in some instances you can weaken the metal from doing that.
TomPlays yeah if you heat it up too much. You don't want it glowing, your always going to have a brittle section either side of the weld, heating helps penetration and spreads this out so it is less severe and spread over a larger area.
its a sliding shaft you don't want to weaken the case hardening or it will bind in the hole as it is a transition fit
because this is cast steel/iron, it has high(er) percentages of carbon which makes hydrogen induced cracks more likely, so heating up the metal beforehand makes it cool slower and allows for hydrogen do diffuse out of the metal so in this case it would've been good practice... not the best welds i've seen but they'll hold for this application
OMG... this is the most beautiful video I've seen in years.. Thank you!!!!
This is incredible. You did amazing work bringing this back.
Another job very well done! You've got some skills sir.
I love how multi purpose vegemite is
Me too! I have kept my eyes peeled, but I have been unsuccessful in finding the blue flavor. The search continues.
Flavor? wait-what? you eat that shit??!?!
ramosel No ahaha theres only black vegemite, what hes using in the video is some sort of lubricant I think 😂😂
Noah Duncan no way! It is really blue vegemite. Made of smurfs.
Haha love vegemite but wonder how many people actually try use it as grease 😂
That'll make for a great addition to your shop!! Great fix!
I watch/sub to your channel and have seen you restore vises before; isn't there a washer or a piece missing in the very front [don't know what to call it], that puts the pressure on the piece in the vise? It should have gone on just before, and onto the long threaded rod.
It's almost hypnotic to watch... most relaxing. Thanks for not including music! Looks like you have all the cool toys.
Now that my friend is bad to the bone. Nice Job and what an excellent tool to add to a small shop. Great restoration job.
Billy Stevens
🔧 Awesome job ! 🔧
What an excellent video! I've had a sloppy vice for a while. You've inspired me to rebuild it. What a fun project!!
Nice vid!
Old vices like these are pure gold. You can sell them in a heartbeat.
Splendid work, indeed!
Amazing. Very detailed project done with passion. I would use all new screws and bolts , and primer when painting.
Thanks - this paint didn't require a primer, but usually yes, I would agree
Superb job! In a throw away society it's nice to see this, it honors the original manufacturer and yourself for the great work.
Gracias por compartir tu excelente restauración y por no poner música lo que me permitió disfrutar de tu trabajo, saludos desde Chile
One of the best resto vids I've ever seen. As mentioned before no shit music or narration, just a therapeutic film!
Nice resto. The original finish would have included a 1st coat of thick whitelead and you'd not see the rough pattern left by casting sand. These days using a bit of 2-pot body filler and sanding smooth achieves the same. De-greasing big chunks of iron best done using the kitchen dishwasher when the missus aint home!
OK yes... my favorite channel. I refurbished a vice like this in my shop! At leas there were gloves with the paint remover, lol. Great job will, you are an inspiration.
From scrap metal to something functional. Amazing. Well done.
What a great job on that vise, and by the way I love the finish you chose to do. I never knew what it was called.
Meanwhile, there's a wife saying, 'I just don't know what you find to do in there all damned day. You still haven't fitted that shelf in the pantry!'
Did we marry the same woman?
....meanwhile, you missed the text message she sent you that she is in bed and feeling a little lonely ;)
doing work like this is not just productive, but also therapeutic for men.
Gentlemen, after I made for her lots (really excessive number) of shelves in the laundry, she stopped saying that! It works!!! I'm free to restore my old press now!
Without the vise, he'll never be able to bend up the brackets for it.
No music, clever time-lapse... The perfect video!
Watching this was way too satisfying. Great job, wish I had the space/tools/ability to do things like these!
Disassembling 10 Hours, restoration 2 minutes Omg 😂😂 I loved this!
I'm only 16 and I know next to nothing about this stuff but I find it oddly satisfying to watch things being fixed
Ribbit when I was young if something did not work, I would take it apart and figure it our and maybe fix it. If it did work I would take it apart and see how it worked. Later in life I worked as a mechanical designer for 40 years. Now at 82 I still love to tinker.
@The ABC Jug Band That is true. On a farm, field expediency and innovation was/is an absolute necessity.
However, I grew up in the inner city. We used to raid the city dumps and junk yards for parts to make bicycles and other death defying vehicles. I knew how to build and repair small Briggs and Tecumseh engines when I was 12. Once me and a friend got an old, heavy frame British bicycle from the dump. We had a guy from the gas station up the street braze a piece of diamond plate on it. We mounted an upright Briggs engine to it. Bolted a giant pulley that we got out of an ancient washing machine to the back wheel, and with a clutch mechanism from an old lawn mower, we had ourselves a motorcycle. (of sorts) We had to search many hardware stores to find a belt to fit though. We were 13-14 at the time.
In my later years I was a mechanic/troubleshooter at my city water supply company at 18-19 years old. And eventually certified to work on helicopters in the Army. I wound up a crew chief/mechanic/door gunner on the first Black Hawk UH60-A models to go into active service.
My wife says she thinks I'm a robot, because all I think about is machines and fixing them.
Hey just wanted to say thanks for the video. I picked up this exact vise on marketplace and used your video to guide my own restoration. Thanks a bunch!
You've gold hands !!! Simply awesome,greetings from Italy
This provided some good adVICE
23:45 ...2 Phillips and a... tamper resistant Torx security screw? It may not happen in your lifetime, but someday, somebody is going to drop an F bomb for this.
Bugged me too, but I've had to make such hacks in the past when another trip to a hardware store was out of the question.
there are those who get it right and those who get it done... haha
True, but.. *Cringe*.. :P
waht do u mean
Love restoring stuff. Wish i had of recorded my table saw resto. Its an older version of your one.
If all you did was the disassembly, weld preparation and finally the weld, I would have been glad I seen this. "Hell of a job!"
Great video, if the weld does crack again heat the steel with a blow torch before welding it. you will get a much deeper weld. Great job on the restoration
Vegitmite: the only true Australian lubricant. Top notch work, lad.
Only one issue: WHY DO YOU NEVER USE CUTTING FLUID?!?!?!?! I can only imagine how often you have to buy new bits or replace your too-and-die sets.
Is vegemite like marmite?
@@eno88 It is very similar, but blue
It's cast iron, which is self lubricating, and if you don't know how to sharpen a frimm you are petter off letting someone who knows how to operate machines do things for you before you seriously hurt yourself.
Nice Video! May I give you a really great tip... at 14:03 where you remove the edges of tape. If you get a hammer and tap on the edges where the tape sits, it will shear it off really nicely! It's great especially for intricate curves etc!
Thanks for the tip! Will try that
YouthfulRider , you can do the same thing with sandpaper, reasonably fine. Just sand down towards the tape ends.
That was truly a master class and I enjoyed watching something that looked like scrap turn into something almost like new and functioning Great Video!
Excellent restoration...
I watched every second from start to finish, sat like if I was paralyzed!
Throw away that WD-40 crap and get some PB Blaster, you will be glad you did. Great job on the vise, I have one just like it in my shop.
Rotflol hes even got a can of wd40 degreaser at 10:22!
What brand are these? I also have one just like this same color but in very good shape.
WWWYZZ3RDDD ATF/Acetone 50/50 is the best
You should restore your own drillpress.
WHY? Doesn't it still drill holes? - Machine tools are for usning, not looking at.
I didn't realise until this video that a vice was so complex, amazing work, almost therapeutic, my life was a bit like the rusty vice but with a lot of work things are looking a lot better...thanks
Okay, seriously I was in shock and awe the whole time - but in the end, I would rather buy a new Yost 750DI @$189 - it's basically the same unit. But like 5 million other viewers, this video made me appreciate it a whole lot more.
Wonderful workmanship, well done Sir.
such an awesome video man! great job restoring the vice!
I have no idea what i’m doing when it comes to tools and that sort of thing, but these are so fun to watch!!
Really rewarding to watch!, It is no nice to see great device restored to almost better than new state.
Thanks for the effort and for sharing!
awesome restoration man, brilliant work just brilliant
Soooo satisfying!
How can people thumbs down this video? Awesome vid☝️👍🏻
Beautiful work. Clean, professional, prep. and restore work was amazing. THANKS FOR THE SHARE!
Parabéns pelo vídeo!
Meu irmão mais velho, tem uma morsa idêntica a essa !
Futuramente vou fazer um restauro nela também!
Great job ;-)
never seen anybody ever work this fast....amazing!!!
9gag brought me here...your work made me stay ^^. I want to own a workshop too, those projects are most satisfying, AND useful !
I find these fastforwarding restoration kind of videos very calming, the natural sounds from doing the hammering of woods or solid thick metal, cutting leather materials makes me feel sleepy.
Same here
Agreed! I feel the same way.
4:35 cannibalism
Viception!
Jack Frost putting a vise in a vise
Even Here Jesus 0.o!
Hahahah
I’m so glad I stumbled on your restoration video. My wife is bring home with the exact model from her late brothers estate. I’m going to paint mine Omaha Red.
Very great job!!! Nice to see someone taking that good kind of care about old tools....