This is the perfect TH-cam video for DIYers. No music. No unnecessary commentary. No time wasted, and the work flow accompanied only by the familiar sounds of tools being used in a shop. Great camera, great camera angles and project lighting, clear in-focus images, clear shots of most of the finishes and lubricants used. Well planned flow of work, and you demonstrated some very helpful and practical DIY skills in getting this project done and in overcoming problems that needed a little ingenuity to tackle. In the full video description, it would be great to know what brand of vise it was and its age, the type of welding rod used, the type of grease used from the Vegemite jar to lube the mechanism, the reason for using the single Torx screw on one bottom jaw and 2 Phillips screws on the other, and any other details that were not obvious from the video itself. This is not a criticism, just a way of saying that your viewers are very interested in how you did things in this very successful restoration, and the choices you made in doing your work. Also, congratulations on having a very clean work area for your project and a very clean shop overall - shop cleanliness that’s a skill I’d like to have, but have never acquired.
Anonymous98 - Agreed! I think you said it all there. If only more videos were like this one - succinct and to the point, no BS and no stupid unnecessary music.
"No unnecessary commentary" maybe unnecessary for you, but I love to hear the thought process behind a project, the difficulties that came up while working on it. If you don't like anything but tool-sounds, just mute the video, get a child and let it bang with tools on whatever. There, your familiar "tool sound" without anything else.
Fred, I think you meant that for someone else. I simply posted that I agreed this was the perfect DIY video, with no unnecessary music or commentary. I have nothing but praise for his videos. Someone else wanted detailed explanations throughout, not me.
I have no idea why I enjoy watching this man fix old tools. I mean, you can buy a new bench vise for short money but bringing something back to life just feels good.
and most of the people just watch first two minutes, then skip to end or just simply go to next video...Also you know how much bandwith and time uploading 6h video takes?
I recently got a good deal on a very similar Bessey vice. The PO used it for making knives, so although it is quite dirty, with a lot of old glue all over it, it shows no signs of abuse. I was glad to find your video, and have found it very useful as I prepare to clean up this old vice. Thanks for posting your video.
You do some things differently than I would, which means I learn something from every one of your videos. Plus you always have exceptional results. Thanks for sharing!
A first rate restoration on a very badly abused vice,I get lots of pleasure bringing things back from the dead,I also like to watch other people doing the same,you get my 5 ☆ rating for a first rate job
I am a professional carpenter actualy, it happens that i have to do some very basic metal work occasionaly. Mostly some drilling and filing to make metal furniture parts fit but id love to get deeper into some real metal working. To bad machines are to expensive to do it as a hobby and im a little late to change my profession now. Well, youtube has to suffice to silent the voices in my head i guess.
Whats wrong with? How old im? Im just not interesting of tools restoration. I can watch, not make. I don't need that :) I can make some things with my own hands, but not everything.
If you are at all interested I would recommend you to try your hand at making/restoring it is relaxing and very rewarding when after a few days of work you have a finished project or restoration (My TH-cam is "Green Forge" if u want to take a look and if u haven't found them yet I would recommend the TH-camrs The king of random, makerj101, This Old tony,sv seaker,and Inspired to make)
Nicely done! Try and find the pipe jaws that fell out at some point, they really do come in handy. Also, make sure you are not breathing in the lead paint dust or carrying it around your home from your clothes.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback! I couldn't source any pipe jaws locally - but have a look at them on the internet, I think I'll just fabricate up some simple ones, they don't look too bad. Good tip about the lead paint - I was using a respirator for all the paint work, however, probably wasn't as careful about the clothes!
Two of my favorite TH-cam historians in the same place! I love the way TH-cam brings great minds together to share and pass on the knowledge that will soon be forgot by the next generation. Keep it coming guys
I actually have this exact vise! I inherited it from my wife's great grandparents when they passed away a few years ago. It was like deja vu watching you restore yours after having restored mine two years ago. I noticed yours doesn't have the ID tag anymore, but mine does. It's an "Olympia Tools 5" Multi-Purpose Vise" model #13-025. I hope this helps find those missing pipe jaws. And I have to say, the end result looks fantastic!
@@tonypike5785 Walmart online sells this vise under the Wen brand. Alltrade sold this vise too under their brand. It's about a $115 vise. Yes, it is Made in China vise.
Was your vice full of body filler? I too have this vice and did a sloppy restoration to get it useable as I found it in a farm Grove. The casting is very rough and tolerances are poor. Plan on a better restoration and some improvements this winter!
I'm surprised at how addicted I am becoming to these restoration videos. I think some of my favorite are older tools, and sometimes even vintage items. Keep up the great work!!
There’s two types of restorations that really work for me. The 'my mechanics' kind where everything is perfect possibly better than new. Then there’s the ones where everything is cleaned up, back to fully functioning but the history has been preserved. Yours falls into the latter which is wonderful.
He he, it seems we are opposed in so many ways, different sides of the world as well. :) spelt1 spɛlt past and past participle of spell1. Advice Advise
I have the exact same vise. It was my brother's restoration project. But he passed away before he even got a chance to start on it. I recently decided to give it a try, and your video helped me step by step. I just need to paint it and it should be done. First time doing anything like this and first time using power tool. Lol! Thank you for your video. :)
I would be afraid that after all that work, I'd put something into it, and start hammering on it, and POP... the weld would break, and I would have two nice new broken vice parts.
I have that exact type of vice and I love it! I bought it new almost 30 years ago. I hope you can find the pipe jaws; they're so handy. The one thing about them though is that even though the set screws have a lock nut, they frequently need re-tightening; otherwise they fall out fairly easily. I put lock-tight on the threads of the set screws and lock nuts and that helps a lot. When you were cleaning off the old finish, there was more than just paint removed. When these vises came from the factory, they used a bondo like material as a skim coat over the casting to give the vise a smooth finish. It made the paint job look as smooth as though every surface was machined until the vise got chipped to reveal bare casting.
Several different companies have made these types of vises. You can still buy them new. Depending on the deal you find; you can pick one up for $60 to $250. Unfortunately the manufacture's label on mine is pretty beat up and I can't quite make out the name. I bought mine about 30 years ago at one of those club type stores; the ones where you can buy condiments by the drum.
I brought one of these vices in 1990 for $145. I got it because of the swiveling head and because it would open wide enough to clamp a crankshaft. Mine was red and looked like a fire hydrant sitting on my bench. I love it - use it all the time, used it just today.
i am sorry to say that it probably won't because it is cast iron and the way he was welding on it is never gona hold. 1 he never heated it up before he started( this will cause tit to crack because of the temperature difference) 2 he was not using a electrode ment 4 cast iron ( the proper electrode that i would recommend is normcast by hobart) 3 doing short weld like he was doing with further the shock of the material ( long stadey welds are what ya want) 4 i am glade that he has disclaimed that he does not know what he is doing .
Those old things were made to be used hard. Even with the critical failure of the jaws and his hobbyist repair, it'll still stand up to anything he'll throw at it
23:45 ...2 Phillips and a... tamper resistant Torx security screw? It may not happen in your lifetime, but someday, somebody is going to drop an F bomb for this.
for a cast iron repair, if it didnt crack during welding it more than likely wont crack and will last a lifetime. there are two ways to keep it from cracking, heat it up, keep it hot while welding, and let it cool down very slowly, or dont let it get hot in the first place. not sure if you meant to or not but you kept your heat input low by not making long runs. plus that part is thick so it draws dissipates the heat well. Id say that turned out very respectable whether or not you knew what you were doing. Keep on keepin on buddy.
A good vice is made of cast steel. A really good vice is forged. A vice isn't made of cast iron. Too brittle. must be malleable/cast steel at least. Welding it is not a problem although he should have burned it in way heavier. Basically that was a bunch of heavy tack welds stacked up. No penetration, but cracking was never going to be an issue.
This is one of the best restoration videos I’ve seen ! I wonder how many would have simply gave up on that old vise, not recognizing that it’s likely better than anything made today. You did it right too. You literally made it like new and not just made it usable, with some grease and a little paint. Thanks for sharing this ! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Nice Video! May I give you a really great tip... at 14:03 where you remove the edges of tape. If you get a hammer and tap on the edges where the tape sits, it will shear it off really nicely! It's great especially for intricate curves etc!
One of the best methods I have seen to loosen seized fasteners is to apply heat, then apply paraffin wax (for home canning) And the wax will melt and find its way down into the threads. :)
Dude ???? you went slap off on that vise.... TRULY A GREAT JOB you did in RESTORING IT... WOW... I would have watched this at real time... WOOO HOOO !!!!! You didn't have to say a word. You did ALL SHOWING and no telling.... BOOOM !!!!!
Hey just wanted to say thanks for the video. I picked up this exact vise on marketplace and used your video to guide my own restoration. Thanks a bunch!
TomPlays yeah if you heat it up too much. You don't want it glowing, your always going to have a brittle section either side of the weld, heating helps penetration and spreads this out so it is less severe and spread over a larger area.
because this is cast steel/iron, it has high(er) percentages of carbon which makes hydrogen induced cracks more likely, so heating up the metal beforehand makes it cool slower and allows for hydrogen do diffuse out of the metal so in this case it would've been good practice... not the best welds i've seen but they'll hold for this application
Nice resto. The original finish would have included a 1st coat of thick whitelead and you'd not see the rough pattern left by casting sand. These days using a bit of 2-pot body filler and sanding smooth achieves the same. De-greasing big chunks of iron best done using the kitchen dishwasher when the missus aint home!
Ribbit when I was young if something did not work, I would take it apart and figure it our and maybe fix it. If it did work I would take it apart and see how it worked. Later in life I worked as a mechanical designer for 40 years. Now at 82 I still love to tinker.
@The ABC Jug Band That is true. On a farm, field expediency and innovation was/is an absolute necessity. However, I grew up in the inner city. We used to raid the city dumps and junk yards for parts to make bicycles and other death defying vehicles. I knew how to build and repair small Briggs and Tecumseh engines when I was 12. Once me and a friend got an old, heavy frame British bicycle from the dump. We had a guy from the gas station up the street braze a piece of diamond plate on it. We mounted an upright Briggs engine to it. Bolted a giant pulley that we got out of an ancient washing machine to the back wheel, and with a clutch mechanism from an old lawn mower, we had ourselves a motorcycle. (of sorts) We had to search many hardware stores to find a belt to fit though. We were 13-14 at the time. In my later years I was a mechanic/troubleshooter at my city water supply company at 18-19 years old. And eventually certified to work on helicopters in the Army. I wound up a crew chief/mechanic/door gunner on the first Black Hawk UH60-A models to go into active service. My wife says she thinks I'm a robot, because all I think about is machines and fixing them.
Gentlemen, after I made for her lots (really excessive number) of shelves in the laundry, she stopped saying that! It works!!! I'm free to restore my old press now!
I understand the utility of being able to rotate the jaws ..Maybe i'm not seeing it, .but shouldn't there be some sort of locking mechanism so once you clamp something into one side or the other, it won't spin on you while you're working on it???
The clamping pressure is transferred to the disk type thingie on the back of the vice and it will NOT spin. You're right if it did it would be completely useless.
Great job. I love the slight speeding up of the video, gives everything an excellent "Pat & Mat"-vibe instead seeming like a sped-up video! Delightful!
Vegitmite: the only true Australian lubricant. Top notch work, lad. Only one issue: WHY DO YOU NEVER USE CUTTING FLUID?!?!?!?! I can only imagine how often you have to buy new bits or replace your too-and-die sets.
It's cast iron, which is self lubricating, and if you don't know how to sharpen a frimm you are petter off letting someone who knows how to operate machines do things for you before you seriously hurt yourself.
Cast iron is nasty shit to, we stopped welding it in our shop. It’s also brittle. the feeling of the weight gives false confidence of strength. My 2 cents .
I enjoyed that. It took me back several decades. Any idea what brand it is? I know it swivels on 2 axis but didn't noticed what locks the main screws/jaws in position. Good job.
Thanks Charlie - unfortunately the nameplate had been removed or broken off and just the studs left on the side. I would have loved to known the brand :) The two screws in the back of the vise locks the main body from rotating.
+Will Matthews That vice bares an uncanny resemblance to the brand new Irwin multi purpose vice I purchased the other week. Perhaps one of their earlier models seeing as they have been selling over here seems like almost forever now! Anyway brilliant job mate.
Mine is identical and was purchased about 30 years ago from PriceClub (became Costco). The riveted label says Multivise 5" heavy duty made in china. The box says "Alltrade" is the manufacturer. In reality these were generic castings sold under many names. Mine cost around $30 canadian new 30ish years ago. Still see them between 50-80 on sale. The casting quality was and is, a real crapshoot. The pipe jaws were handy but the swivel feature won't hold for heavy work. The original color was more of a robins egg blue. Google Alltrade vise. They made millions.
I'm curious how the welding held up. I have the same vise, broken at the same spot, even the same color paint. No markings. It belonged to my father-in-law, otherwise it would have gone in the scrap pile after it broke. After watching many TH-cam videos on welding cast iron I gave it a shot. It lasted about a week before it broke again. This time I'm building a complete new front jaw using thick-walled steel pipe I got from my local metal supplier. I can at least reuse the base and screw and hopefully have a functioning vise again. And for those commenting how this is a waste of time....no one made you watch. Troll on!
use 7018 (or 11018 if you can get it) Low Hydrogen welding rod to weld this cast iron. Also you can use cast iron welding rod but it looks ugly when welded, do not try to get a good looking bead with it.
when you weld cast iron you have to heat it up first, heat must be even. then use cast rods to weld it then wrap it in a blanket of some kind so it cools slowly
I find these fastforwarding restoration kind of videos very calming, the natural sounds from doing the hammering of woods or solid thick metal, cutting leather materials makes me feel sleepy.
OMG when I first saw this vise, I thought, what waste of time even trying to get it working, much less restoring it. The end result is nothing short of spectacular . What brand is the vise ? My wife came into the room while I was watching and said, what is that and what is he trying to do ? Great job, and look forward to the next project. Thanks for sharing...Ken
I have one exactly like it. I bought it at Big Lots years ago but it's been a good one so far. I lost one of the pipe clamp dogs and need to fab a new one but other than that, it's still functioning fine and dandy.
I find it rather funny that when you see any swivel vice more often than not the swivel lock handles are jacked up. Must be some right of passage for a vice.
Will, your videos are like a bad drug to me, I'm Addicted!!!😁😁. But that's a good thing!! Love your videos my friend and keep up that GREAT WORK!!! God Bless you always my brother.
Если там чугун, то - чисто символически. Если по-науке, то там следует соблюдать целый список условий. Вплоть до послесварочного разогрева для снятия внутр. напряжений. А сие видео - так, шоу просто. Но смотреть интересно.
I am nearly certain that I have that exact vise (vice, depending on where you live). And planning on restoring it. Thank you for producing this video and what a great resto job!
There was a very specific test on penetrating oils done by Project Farm not too long ago on youtube with exact bolts torqued to the same specs and rusted the same way over time. Regular heat came in first, the old standard Liquid Wrench came in second, and your ATF mix came in 3rd. For $3.47... I'll stick with Liquid Wrench.
Well- think about that. $3.47 for 11oz. of the first _chemical_ or $12 for 64oz.worth of the next runner up. BTW that mixture isn't my invention. Google "Acetone & ATF penetrant".
@@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP Oh I know, it's been a thing for ages. I was just saying I'd pay the minimal extra cost for the convenience of no mixing, compressed spray bottle, nozzle, and have something that works better. Especially considering one bottle of penetrating oil usually lasts me several years.
Get one of these, put your fluid in, pressurize it- and all you have to do is shake it up before use, just like any other spray can. I've had mine for years, and it holds pressure for months, and won't go flat if cold like most aerosol cans. I'm sorry to be so adamant about this- but I really believe in it, and this setup has really proven itself over many years now for me. www.amazon.com/Vaper-19419-Spray-Non-Aerosol-Sprayer/dp/B0035FH906/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542835320&sr=8-3&keywords=refillable+aerosol+sprayer
I have an old heavy vise like the one in the video marked CHINA 5. It works fine but it needs some maintenance and a paint job. Thanks for the video. It inspired me to do this to my vise.
Hard to say - it does take a surprising amount of work to produce a video as others can attest to. The actual work was probably 2-3 days over multiple weekends when I get time to go to the workshop. The editing was probably 4-5 hrs I'd say. Something I'm trying to get better at!
OK yes... my favorite channel. I refurbished a vice like this in my shop! At leas there were gloves with the paint remover, lol. Great job will, you are an inspiration.
This is the perfect TH-cam video for DIYers. No music. No unnecessary commentary. No time wasted, and the work flow accompanied only by the familiar sounds of tools being used in a shop. Great camera, great camera angles and project lighting, clear in-focus images, clear shots of most of the finishes and lubricants used. Well planned flow of work, and you demonstrated some very helpful and practical DIY skills in getting this project done and in overcoming problems that needed a little ingenuity to tackle. In the full video description, it would be great to know what brand of vise it was and its age, the type of welding rod used, the type of grease used from the Vegemite jar to lube the mechanism, the reason for using the single Torx screw on one bottom jaw and 2 Phillips screws on the other, and any other details that were not obvious from the video itself. This is not a criticism, just a way of saying that your viewers are very interested in how you did things in this very successful restoration, and the choices you made in doing your work. Also, congratulations on having a very clean work area for your project and a very clean shop overall - shop cleanliness that’s a skill I’d like to have, but have never acquired.
Anonymous98 - Agreed! I think you said it all there. If only more videos were like this one - succinct and to the point, no BS and no stupid unnecessary music.
you forgot to mention no annoying dupstep opening
"No unnecessary commentary" maybe unnecessary for you, but I love to hear the thought process behind a project, the difficulties that came up while working on it. If you don't like anything but tool-sounds, just mute the video, get a child and let it bang with tools on whatever. There, your familiar "tool sound" without anything else.
Anonymous98 - Well said ! You summed this up perfectly !
Fred, I think you meant that for someone else. I simply posted that I agreed this was the perfect DIY video, with no unnecessary music or commentary. I have nothing but praise for his videos. Someone else wanted detailed explanations throughout, not me.
Thank you for not putting some horrible music to this
Amen
Seconded
TOTALLY AGREE
Despite my advanced age, I still have the attention span of a cat on catnip... the time lapse allowed me to watch the entire thing!
Truth; Nothing better than raw sound.
I have no idea why I enjoy watching this man fix old tools. I mean, you can buy a new bench vise for short money but bringing something back to life just feels good.
I like how you show the ENTIRE process and even leave in the tiny details. Shows just how much work you put into this.
and most of the people just watch first two minutes, then skip to end or just simply go to next video...Also you know how much bandwith and time uploading 6h video takes?
Tremendous amount of time and hard work at the workshop and in front of your computer/laptop . Thanks for sharing . Thumbs up for your great job .
Absolutely is very hardworking to rescue the tool but excellent work
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I recently got a good deal on a very similar Bessey vice. The PO used it for making knives, so although it is quite dirty, with a lot of old glue all over it, it shows no signs of abuse. I was glad to find your video, and have found it very useful as I prepare to clean up this old vice. Thanks for posting your video.
You do some things differently than I would, which means I learn something from every one of your videos. Plus you always have exceptional results. Thanks for sharing!
A first rate restoration on a very badly abused vice,I get lots of pleasure bringing things back from the dead,I also like to watch other people doing the same,you get my 5 ☆ rating for a first rate job
"I get lots of pleasure bringing things back from the dead"
It's called necromancy.
Hey, wait a minute!
Askey...a very British name if I am not mistaken.
Nice vid!
Old vices like these are pure gold. You can sell them in a heartbeat.
I fell into a TH-cam hole and ended up here... I don't own a single tool... I watched the whole thing... thumbs up :)
haha its was in my recomended and i'm same as you are.
Well hopefully it will encourage you two to get hands on and fix some things for yourself and save money, how old are you two out of interest?
I am a professional carpenter actualy, it happens that i have to do some very basic metal work occasionaly. Mostly some drilling and filing to make metal furniture parts fit but id love to get deeper into some real metal working. To bad machines are to expensive to do it as a hobby and im a little late to change my profession now. Well, youtube has to suffice to silent the voices in my head i guess.
Whats wrong with? How old im? Im just not interesting of tools restoration. I can watch, not make. I don't need that :) I can make some things with my own hands, but not everything.
If you are at all interested I would recommend you to try your hand at making/restoring it is relaxing and very rewarding when after a few days of work you have a finished project or restoration (My TH-cam is "Green Forge" if u want to take a look and if u haven't found them yet I would recommend the TH-camrs The king of random, makerj101, This Old tony,sv seaker,and Inspired to make)
Nicely done! Try and find the pipe jaws that fell out at some point, they really do come in handy. Also, make sure you are not breathing in the lead paint dust or carrying it around your home from your clothes.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback! I couldn't source any pipe jaws locally - but have a look at them on the internet, I think I'll just fabricate up some simple ones, they don't look too bad. Good tip about the lead paint - I was using a respirator for all the paint work, however, probably wasn't as careful about the clothes!
Two of my favorite TH-cam historians in the same place! I love the way TH-cam brings great minds together to share and pass on the knowledge that will soon be forgot by the next generation. Keep it coming guys
i gone did ate the lead chips i are fine watchu tlkin bout?
Wow! Great restoration video…it really came out nice!
Other than you completely failing at properly welding cast together (very painful to watch that part) the rest of this video was great.
My favorite vise restoration video, no stupid techno music, no stupids coulours, carefull job.
I actually have this exact vise! I inherited it from my wife's great grandparents when they passed away a few years ago. It was like deja vu watching you restore yours after having restored mine two years ago. I noticed yours doesn't have the ID tag anymore, but mine does. It's an "Olympia Tools 5" Multi-Purpose Vise" model #13-025. I hope this helps find those missing pipe jaws. And I have to say, the end result looks fantastic!
I hope he sees this.
I have the same vice but no tag, is this China made ?
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Walmart online sells this vise under the Wen brand.
Alltrade sold this vise too under their brand.
It's about a $115 vise. Yes, it is Made in China vise.
Was your vice full of body filler? I too have this vice and did a sloppy restoration to get it useable as I found it in a farm Grove. The casting is very rough and tolerances are poor. Plan on a better restoration and some improvements this winter!
Yo tengo uno igual y me gustaría saber sobre el ..de que año será, y dónde se fabricó,te agradezco la inf. Saludos
Outstanding! I love restoring something to usable condition. Great satisfaction derived from keeping something out of a landfill or junkyard.
Who knew there were so many parts to a vice! wonderful old tool, they Don't make them like that anymore, bravo!
I'm surprised at how addicted I am becoming to these restoration videos. I think some of my favorite are older tools, and sometimes even vintage items. Keep up the great work!!
Bruce ck out My Mechanics restorations also, if u haven't already..
One of the best restoration videos I've seen.
There’s two types of restorations that really work for me. The 'my mechanics' kind where everything is perfect possibly better than new. Then there’s the ones where everything is cleaned up, back to fully functioning but the history has been preserved. Yours falls into the latter which is wonderful.
If that vise could speak it would be shouting for joy at it's new life.
A fine restoration sir!!
I hate to point this out but, it would say "You've spelt my name wrong :( "
Lmao-- only way to spell vise where I come from.
However-- "Spelt" is wrong. It's >spelled
He he, it seems we are opposed in so many ways, different sides of the world as well. :)
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00:05 A hunk of junk; 24:31 A work of art; Master Craftsman, I salute you.
I have the exact same vise. It was my brother's restoration project. But he passed away before he even got a chance to start on it. I recently decided to give it a try, and your video helped me step by step. I just need to paint it and it should be done. First time doing anything like this and first time using power tool. Lol! Thank you for your video. :)
Damn dude that a fantastic job !! As good as new now !
When it was new, it broke in two.
I would be afraid that after all that work, I'd put something into it, and start hammering on it, and POP... the weld would break, and I would have two nice new broken vice parts.
Hell, even better than new!
I live for restoration, I'm in tears. ❤
Restoration should be learned at primaries scholls to teach the significance of non descartable and non consumerism things
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Lmao ✌
Makes me wish all the world was more like metal. Years of neglect, undone in just a few days of hard work. Good job.
I have that exact type of vice and I love it! I bought it new almost 30 years ago. I hope you can find the pipe jaws; they're so handy. The one thing about them though is that even though the set screws have a lock nut, they frequently need re-tightening; otherwise they fall out fairly easily. I put lock-tight on the threads of the set screws and lock nuts and that helps a lot. When you were cleaning off the old finish, there was more than just paint removed. When these vises came from the factory, they used a bondo like material as a skim coat over the casting to give the vise a smooth finish. It made the paint job look as smooth as though every surface was machined until the vise got chipped to reveal bare casting.
Roger that on the bondo finish. I lost one of my pipe clamp jaws and planning on making a replacement
Any idea on the make/model? I have one sitting in my garage that I'm trying to identify...
Several different companies have made these types of vises. You can still buy them new. Depending on the deal you find; you can pick one up for $60 to $250. Unfortunately the manufacture's label on mine is pretty beat up and I can't quite make out the name. I bought mine about 30 years ago at one of those club type stores; the ones where you can buy condiments by the drum.
I brought one of these vices in 1990 for $145. I got it because of the swiveling head and because it would open wide enough to clamp a crankshaft. Mine was red and looked like a fire hydrant sitting on my bench. I love it - use it all the time, used it just today.
Kaleb Dias according to this its made in Vietnam. olympiatools.com/olympia-tools/vises-anvils.html
Beautiful job! That’ll last another 100 years!
i am sorry to say that it probably won't because it is cast iron and the way he was welding on it is never gona hold.
1 he never heated it up before he started( this will cause tit to crack because of the temperature difference) 2 he was not using a electrode ment 4 cast iron ( the proper electrode that i would recommend is normcast by hobart) 3 doing short weld like he was doing with further the shock of the material ( long stadey welds are what ya want) 4 i am glade that he has disclaimed that he does not know what he is doing .
Figure of speech my friend, figure of speech.
original name i want like that comment a hundert times. (Figure of speech as well)
traderjoes yeah Evan tho he already has 3 :)
omg ((( 505 Dislike this pipe idiots or robots ?
I really enjoyed watching this restoration. I'm also very happy to be able to hear all the ambient sound instead of music. Thanks you!!
wonderful one of my favorite restorations....congratulations.
You have done that old vise proud Will :) What a great restoration. It will give you years of good use ॐ
Those old things were made to be used hard. Even with the critical failure of the jaws and his hobbyist repair, it'll still stand up to anything he'll throw at it
The Wood Yogi I love these tool restoration videos, they are one of my only vices. I'll get my coat...
They don't make em as good anymore... or if they do it'll be at a premium price.Cool Vice
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The Wood Yogi that’s so cool I want to do this now
It's almost hypnotic to watch... most relaxing. Thanks for not including music! Looks like you have all the cool toys.
23:45 ...2 Phillips and a... tamper resistant Torx security screw? It may not happen in your lifetime, but someday, somebody is going to drop an F bomb for this.
Bugged me too, but I've had to make such hacks in the past when another trip to a hardware store was out of the question.
there are those who get it right and those who get it done... haha
True, but.. *Cringe*.. :P
waht do u mean
Love restoring stuff. Wish i had of recorded my table saw resto. Its an older version of your one.
for a cast iron repair, if it didnt crack during welding it more than likely wont crack and will last a lifetime. there are two ways to keep it from cracking, heat it up, keep it hot while welding, and let it cool down very slowly, or dont let it get hot in the first place. not sure if you meant to or not but you kept your heat input low by not making long runs. plus that part is thick so it draws dissipates the heat well. Id say that turned out very respectable whether or not you knew what you were doing. Keep on keepin on buddy.
A good vice is made of cast steel. A really good vice is forged. A vice isn't made of cast iron. Too brittle. must be malleable/cast steel at least. Welding it is not a problem although he should have burned it in way heavier. Basically that was a bunch of heavy tack welds stacked up. No penetration, but cracking was never going to be an issue.
This is one of the best restoration videos I’ve seen ! I wonder how many would have simply gave up on that old vise, not recognizing that it’s likely better than anything made today. You did it right too. You literally made it like new and not just made it usable, with some grease and a little paint. Thanks for sharing this ! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Nice Video! May I give you a really great tip... at 14:03 where you remove the edges of tape. If you get a hammer and tap on the edges where the tape sits, it will shear it off really nicely! It's great especially for intricate curves etc!
Thanks for the tip! Will try that
YouthfulRider , you can do the same thing with sandpaper, reasonably fine. Just sand down towards the tape ends.
One of the best methods I have seen to loosen seized fasteners is to apply heat, then apply paraffin wax (for home canning) And the wax will melt and find its way down into the threads. :)
I'll have to try that sometime!
I did this on exhaust manifold bolts as I zero interest (and room) to extract broken bolts. Seemed to work a treat in that case.
Dude ???? you went slap off on that vise.... TRULY A GREAT JOB you did in RESTORING IT... WOW... I would have watched this at real time... WOOO HOOO !!!!! You didn't have to say a word. You did ALL SHOWING and no telling.... BOOOM !!!!!
One of the best resto vids I've ever seen. As mentioned before no shit music or narration, just a therapeutic film!
Now that my friend is bad to the bone. Nice Job and what an excellent tool to add to a small shop. Great restoration job.
Billy Stevens
Hey just wanted to say thanks for the video. I picked up this exact vise on marketplace and used your video to guide my own restoration. Thanks a bunch!
Well-done! This video is so satisfying!
Amazing. Very detailed project done with passion. I would use all new screws and bolts , and primer when painting.
Thanks - this paint didn't require a primer, but usually yes, I would agree
Superb job! In a throw away society it's nice to see this, it honors the original manufacturer and yourself for the great work.
Quién es el fabricante? O que marca es?
one tip with the welding is to heat the metal up first, lest it penetrate further, good job.
No, in some instances you can weaken the metal from doing that.
TomPlays yeah if you heat it up too much. You don't want it glowing, your always going to have a brittle section either side of the weld, heating helps penetration and spreads this out so it is less severe and spread over a larger area.
its a sliding shaft you don't want to weaken the case hardening or it will bind in the hole as it is a transition fit
because this is cast steel/iron, it has high(er) percentages of carbon which makes hydrogen induced cracks more likely, so heating up the metal beforehand makes it cool slower and allows for hydrogen do diffuse out of the metal so in this case it would've been good practice... not the best welds i've seen but they'll hold for this application
Another job very well done! You've got some skills sir.
I've never been more impressed with how you taped off the openings and made a beautiful circle.
Am I the only one who is always surprised at how many parts go into seemingly simple machines?
Joshua Defibaugh nope
Yes
You are not alone
Me as well. the main adjustment/tensioning device was far more complicated than I was expecting!
No you are not.
Using 2:00 Vise grips on a vise and using a vise to hold a vise 4:35.
Its a Viseception
So your saying the use of multiple vises has become a vice? Hmmm.
Ha ha ha ha
Yes he has many vises.
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Really rewarding to watch!, It is no nice to see great device restored to almost better than new state.
Thanks for the effort and for sharing!
Nice Job Again! Love this vice. I seen many, but not this type. OUTSTANDING Man.
I like the vise style too. I have one or should I say a harbor freight wannabe.
What a great job on that vise, and by the way I love the finish you chose to do. I never knew what it was called.
I know nothing about this, but my faith is restored after watching! Good job!
Nice resto. The original finish would have included a 1st coat of thick whitelead and you'd not see the rough pattern left by casting sand. These days using a bit of 2-pot body filler and sanding smooth achieves the same. De-greasing big chunks of iron best done using the kitchen dishwasher when the missus aint home!
🔧 Awesome job ! 🔧
What an excellent video! I've had a sloppy vice for a while. You've inspired me to rebuild it. What a fun project!!
I'm only 16 and I know next to nothing about this stuff but I find it oddly satisfying to watch things being fixed
Ribbit when I was young if something did not work, I would take it apart and figure it our and maybe fix it. If it did work I would take it apart and see how it worked. Later in life I worked as a mechanical designer for 40 years. Now at 82 I still love to tinker.
@The ABC Jug Band That is true. On a farm, field expediency and innovation was/is an absolute necessity.
However, I grew up in the inner city. We used to raid the city dumps and junk yards for parts to make bicycles and other death defying vehicles. I knew how to build and repair small Briggs and Tecumseh engines when I was 12. Once me and a friend got an old, heavy frame British bicycle from the dump. We had a guy from the gas station up the street braze a piece of diamond plate on it. We mounted an upright Briggs engine to it. Bolted a giant pulley that we got out of an ancient washing machine to the back wheel, and with a clutch mechanism from an old lawn mower, we had ourselves a motorcycle. (of sorts) We had to search many hardware stores to find a belt to fit though. We were 13-14 at the time.
In my later years I was a mechanic/troubleshooter at my city water supply company at 18-19 years old. And eventually certified to work on helicopters in the Army. I wound up a crew chief/mechanic/door gunner on the first Black Hawk UH60-A models to go into active service.
My wife says she thinks I'm a robot, because all I think about is machines and fixing them.
I love how multi purpose vegemite is
Me too! I have kept my eyes peeled, but I have been unsuccessful in finding the blue flavor. The search continues.
Flavor? wait-what? you eat that shit??!?!
ramosel No ahaha theres only black vegemite, what hes using in the video is some sort of lubricant I think 😂😂
Noah Duncan no way! It is really blue vegemite. Made of smurfs.
Haha love vegemite but wonder how many people actually try use it as grease 😂
YOU ARE A BOSS............THAT'S LIKE THE MANLIEST ARTWORK I'VE EVER SEEN AWESOME VIDEO THANKS!!!!!!
Splendid work, indeed!
This provided some good adVICE
That box of old un-indexed drill bits!!!! Hahaha, who doesn't have that in their shop? I have like 3! Cracked me up!
You should restore your own drillpress.
WHY? Doesn't it still drill holes? - Machine tools are for usning, not looking at.
Meanwhile, there's a wife saying, 'I just don't know what you find to do in there all damned day. You still haven't fitted that shelf in the pantry!'
Did we marry the same woman?
....meanwhile, you missed the text message she sent you that she is in bed and feeling a little lonely ;)
doing work like this is not just productive, but also therapeutic for men.
Gentlemen, after I made for her lots (really excessive number) of shelves in the laundry, she stopped saying that! It works!!! I'm free to restore my old press now!
Without the vise, he'll never be able to bend up the brackets for it.
I have no idea what i’m doing when it comes to tools and that sort of thing, but these are so fun to watch!!
I understand the utility of being able to rotate the jaws ..Maybe i'm not seeing it, .but shouldn't there be some sort of locking mechanism so once you clamp something into one side or the other, it won't spin on you while you're working on it???
Someone else commented that the rotation stops as you tighten the vice.
it does.
The clamping pressure is transferred to the disk type thingie on the back of the vice and it will NOT spin. You're right if it did it would be completely useless.
Throw away that WD-40 crap and get some PB Blaster, you will be glad you did. Great job on the vise, I have one just like it in my shop.
Rotflol hes even got a can of wd40 degreaser at 10:22!
What brand are these? I also have one just like this same color but in very good shape.
WWWYZZ3RDDD ATF/Acetone 50/50 is the best
Great job. I love the slight speeding up of the video, gives everything an excellent "Pat & Mat"-vibe instead seeming like a sped-up video! Delightful!
Vegitmite: the only true Australian lubricant. Top notch work, lad.
Only one issue: WHY DO YOU NEVER USE CUTTING FLUID?!?!?!?! I can only imagine how often you have to buy new bits or replace your too-and-die sets.
Is vegemite like marmite?
@@eno88 It is very similar, but blue
It's cast iron, which is self lubricating, and if you don't know how to sharpen a frimm you are petter off letting someone who knows how to operate machines do things for you before you seriously hurt yourself.
Disassembling 10 Hours, restoration 2 minutes Omg 😂😂 I loved this!
From scrap metal to something functional. Amazing. Well done.
Does anyone else instantly smell WD-40 whenever it's sprayed onscreen?
No I don't but I definitely like the smell. The company that makes it does that on purpose I think.
I got some in my eyes.
I thought this exact thing while watching.
one of the mysteries of the universe: my wife hates that smell! Oh well...
Oh the fragrant WD-40.
How does the welding hold up. My experience is welding cast iron is not very strong and it will break again.
I would have put some dowel pins in .
Cast iron is nasty shit to, we stopped welding it in our shop. It’s also brittle. the feeling of the weight gives false confidence of strength. My 2 cents .
Learned this the hard way.. tig welded chain vice handles back on not realizing there was a difference. Flat on my ass in no time 😂
Very nice job! I really like the finished look. Old and worn at the same time as it looks brand new.
4:35 cannibalism
Viception!
Jack Frost putting a vise in a vise
Even Here Jesus 0.o!
Hahahah
Wonderful workmanship, well done Sir.
You are a perfectionist Will. First rate restoration! 5 Stars
I enjoyed that. It took me back several decades. Any idea what brand it is? I know it swivels on 2 axis but didn't noticed what locks the main screws/jaws in position. Good job.
Thanks Charlie - unfortunately the nameplate had been removed or broken off and just the studs left on the side. I would have loved to known the brand :) The two screws in the back of the vise locks the main body from rotating.
+Will Matthews That vice bares an uncanny resemblance to the brand new Irwin multi purpose vice I purchased the other week. Perhaps one of their earlier models seeing as they have been selling over here seems like almost forever now! Anyway brilliant job mate.
Mine is identical and was purchased about 30 years ago from PriceClub (became Costco). The riveted label says Multivise 5" heavy duty made in china. The box says "Alltrade" is the manufacturer. In reality these were generic castings sold under many names. Mine cost around $30 canadian new 30ish years ago. Still see them between 50-80 on sale. The casting quality was and is, a real crapshoot. The pipe jaws were handy but the swivel feature won't hold for heavy work. The original color was more of a robins egg blue. Google Alltrade vise. They made millions.
This looks exactly like my Harbor Freight vise that is broken in the same place, I have taken mine apart but not yet made the repair as you have.
Bought mine at Big Lots fifteen years ago. Same exact vice. Not broken yet though. Oh crap! I wish I hadn't said that.....
Please tell me that was actual Vegemite used to lube the machine surfaces, and not just grease put in an empty Vegemite canister...
Grease, vegemite isn't blue.
Also, Vegemite isn't good either as food or grease.
@@Senkino5o Awww, man! heart = broken
Eli Jackson Spot on, sir. Tried vegemite in Cottlesloe, Western Australia in the mid 80's. Aussies are wonderful people but have weird food tastes.
A rubber grease by the look of it
is the new blueberry vegemite for more fruity taste
Leider Geil: ohne nervendes Intro. Keine belastende TrapNation-Mucke. Kein unnötiges Gesabbel. Perfekt! Danke dafür...
I'm curious how the welding held up.
I have the same vise, broken at the same spot, even the same color paint. No markings. It belonged to my father-in-law, otherwise it would have gone in the scrap pile after it broke. After watching many TH-cam videos on welding cast iron I gave it a shot. It lasted about a week before it broke again. This time I'm building a complete new front jaw using thick-walled steel pipe I got from my local metal supplier. I can at least reuse the base and screw and hopefully have a functioning vise again. And for those commenting how this is a waste of time....no one made you watch. Troll on!
As someone just learning, what type of weld?
@@amandapatrick827 In the video he uses a stick welder.
I forgot the type but there's a specific kind of welding stick for cast-metals i used to put it on water after welded
use 7018 (or 11018 if you can get it) Low Hydrogen welding rod to weld this cast iron. Also you can use cast iron welding rod but it looks ugly when welded, do not try to get a good looking bead with it.
when you weld cast iron you have to heat it up first, heat must be even. then use cast rods to weld it then wrap it in a blanket of some kind so it cools slowly
I find these fastforwarding restoration kind of videos very calming, the natural sounds from doing the hammering of woods or solid thick metal, cutting leather materials makes me feel sleepy.
Same here
Agreed! I feel the same way.
Very great job!!! Nice to see someone taking that good kind of care about old tools....
Don’t get your vice stuck in a vise
AvE. 👍
mustangkraft505 good ad-vice
....why not? It’s my favourite vice...
I see there are a lot of AdVISEers making some funny puns along with Advice on the vice
OMG when I first saw this vise, I thought, what waste of time even trying to get it working, much less restoring it. The end result is nothing short of spectacular . What brand is the vise ? My wife came into the room while I was watching and said, what is that and what is he trying to do ? Great job, and look forward to the next project. Thanks for sharing...Ken
Unfortunately the name plate had been broken off or removed previously so I don't know what brand it is. Thanks for watching!
Looks like a big Yost vise
It's almost identical to brand new Yost 750-DI.
Kenneth Bartlett fe
I have one exactly like it. I bought it at Big Lots years ago but it's been a good one so far. I lost one of the pipe clamp dogs and need to fab a new one but other than that, it's still functioning fine and dandy.
You are a very professional and professional man. I have seen some of your work and maintained all the wood saw saw and others. I loved your work
I find it rather funny that when you see any swivel vice more often than not the swivel lock handles are jacked up. Must be some right of passage for a vice.
Haha yes they frequently seem beat up on these old vises!
These import vises have a issues with the base not really locking. It takes everything you have to get those tight enough to be useful.
people tend to beat on them with a hammer trying to get them tight
GodzillaB210 NO need to use extension bars on those swivel lock handles, just shows what a stupid cretin owned the vice previous.
one would think that the people making these would at some point realise that they have to make that stronger
When you welded the shaft on how did you get the exact angle? Because if you hadn’t the jaws wouldn’t have closed parallel.
Yes , I completely agree with you
It looked like he left part of the break intact, only bevelling it down to about 1/8" of the broken surface.
This takes incredible dedication and patience to restored this beautiful fully functional machine. Thank you.
Will, your videos are like a bad drug to me, I'm Addicted!!!😁😁. But that's a good thing!! Love your videos my friend and keep up that GREAT WORK!!! God Bless you always my brother.
Thank you! Will endeavour to keep putting out some videos
зачёт! но сварка будет держать?
Если там чугун, то - чисто символически. Если по-науке, то там следует соблюдать целый список условий. Вплоть до послесварочного разогрева для снятия внутр. напряжений. А сие видео - так, шоу просто. Но смотреть интересно.
I am nearly certain that I have that exact vise (vice, depending on where you live). And planning on restoring it. Thank you for producing this video and what a great resto job!
*50-50 Acetone & ATF. Shake before use. $12 half gallon. Please try. Thank you.*
There was a very specific test on penetrating oils done by Project Farm not too long ago on youtube with exact bolts torqued to the same specs and rusted the same way over time. Regular heat came in first, the old standard Liquid Wrench came in second, and your ATF mix came in 3rd. For $3.47... I'll stick with Liquid Wrench.
Well- think about that. $3.47 for 11oz. of the first _chemical_ or $12 for 64oz.worth of the next runner up. BTW that mixture isn't my invention. Google "Acetone & ATF penetrant".
@@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP Oh I know, it's been a thing for ages. I was just saying I'd pay the minimal extra cost for the convenience of no mixing, compressed spray bottle, nozzle, and have something that works better. Especially considering one bottle of penetrating oil usually lasts me several years.
Get one of these, put your fluid in, pressurize it- and all you have to do is shake it up before use, just like any other spray can. I've had mine for years, and it holds pressure for months, and won't go flat if cold like most aerosol cans.
I'm sorry to be so adamant about this- but I really believe in it, and this setup has really proven itself over many years now for me.
www.amazon.com/Vaper-19419-Spray-Non-Aerosol-Sprayer/dp/B0035FH906/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542835320&sr=8-3&keywords=refillable+aerosol+sprayer
No one is going to use your difficult method. Stop spouting it to people who know better.
I wanted to hear all the cuss words and see the fingers he had to have flown at this lol. Nice work!!!
+Jon Floate Haha family audience!
If all you did was the disassembly, weld preparation and finally the weld, I would have been glad I seen this. "Hell of a job!"
What's the use for these triangle shaped jaws on the bottom?
I think that it's just to get a good grip on round stock.
Ah yes true! Thanks for the tip
Wd40 is junk for rusted parts try some kroil oil or yield
I was thinking the same. My favorite isPB Blaster.
Andrew VanDerLaan that's good stuff too
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I have an old heavy vise like the one in the video marked CHINA 5. It works fine but it needs some maintenance and a paint job. Thanks for the video. It inspired me to do this to my vise.
Amazing work ! How long did it take to finish it all ? Including recording and editing the video :)
Hard to say - it does take a surprising amount of work to produce a video as others can attest to. The actual work was probably 2-3 days over multiple weekends when I get time to go to the workshop. The editing was probably 4-5 hrs I'd say. Something I'm trying to get better at!
that thing was dead on arrival! awesome job! what a versatile vise!
Excellent resto, will be fit for many years more service :-)
Nice job!
You are already pretty good.
One word superb !!!!!
OK yes... my favorite channel. I refurbished a vice like this in my shop! At leas there were gloves with the paint remover, lol. Great job will, you are an inspiration.
beautiful job.....but it really should have been candy apple red. lol.
bob f I prefer the blue, because he already has a red one.