Hello Jake, I have a antique 1958 Winco Generator Briggs model 23A unit. Found at yard sale that was bought new with supposedly fifty or so hours on the unit. Lived in basement for backup power. Paid seventy five dollar for the genset. Runs like new old stock. Hope to find a larger one with a two cylinder Wisconsin engine.
Cool little machine, can't say I've ever seen a generator setup like that beside the driving motor. Definitely a nice unit even if it smokes, could say it's to keep the bugs away lol.
My great uncles had one of those gen sets for a long time in our milk house on our farm, it used to run a vacuum pump for our pneumatic surge bucket milkers
@@5Tractorguy yea it had a heck of a lot of run time, it was rebuilt a couple times but after our new barn was built we had electricity to the barn but still had it for backup power
crank and run on the second pull thats pretty good Jake, you do fine work and I look forward to all of your videos, hope your still busy with work, see ya on the next one.
@@5Tractorguy Happy Easter to you and your family too my friend. Spring flood gates are open here too. Almost through all of the commercial equipment as well.
That generator looks like the one I have except mine doesn't have the square box thing on top...the tag on mine is partly readable but it is 2000 watts 17.4 amps 115 volts...I'm using a 1975 tiller engine, a 5 hp Briggs...with a 1/4 inch bigger pulley on the motor it makes 120 volts about half throttle, but I'm gunna need an oil ring...
Nice camera work and the editing was very good! It looked like the oil check came just before the start up, but that was only for the camera, I'm sure.
Thanks, Jake nd though I don't smoke anymore and haven't for years, that rig runs a site better than I do although I'm 5 years older than it is. It'll be worth doing some work on. I'd love to have it if I didn't have the old 2.5 Onan out of the old Winnie. You had me worried with 'Oh What A Night' at the 1st but you redeemed yourself later on when the 5 fired up. Keep on fixing and picking and not in that order sometimes! GBWYall
Ha! I KNEW that was going to catch someone off guard! You and Eric Course both said the same thing... Every now and again I get on a 60's - 70's kick, but that good ol' bluegrass and country always ropes me back in and sets me right!
@@5Tractorguy Well, Jake, it just proves you're wrapped as loose as the rest of us. I like the 60's/70's stuff too but the old bluegrass is my standard, being raised and living square-dab in the middle of it. All you're doing is keeping all of us honest! Keep after it and GBWYou, Buddy!
Ck the valves might be worn stems or guides . Rings may be worn this engine Is worth the rebuild cost of parts. If my memory is right its cast iron block Briggs. They're made to last and can be bored several times.
As annoying as the belt must be, I do like the way it can do a "gear" ratio so the engine doesn't have to run at 3600 (I'm sure my neighbors would appreciate it as well). Do you have frequency (Hz) on that multimeter? You probably already know this but 60Hz would be 3600 RPM normally (62.5 no load on these generators) but you got a belt ratio there.
I ran a bottom tap down through the main jet threads... just to clean the crust out. You heard correct, I knew that was going to draw some attention haha.
I used to sell/service/rent Winco Generators back in the 1980's, these sure were durable and dependable gen sets ( as long as the engine was kept in top running condition.) I'm curious , what is the rated RPM of the generator? We often did an upgrade to these , we changed out the pulleys to double sheave 'B' section v-belts to ensure steady hertz and voltage. 1800 RPM sets were the most stable, we found, of course the 1800 RPM generators demanded a much larger HP engine. I've often regretted that I did not hold on to one of these Winco Generators for myself, oh well, I do enjoy watching you work on this to bring it back to life.
They seemed like a pretty popular brand back in the day. Even searching around for old generators for sale, Wincos turn up quite a bit... new and old... Generator head is rated at 3600. Got an old Onan gen set here too that runs at 1800, nice quiet, even power!
@@5Tractorguy When we sized up a generator set for some of our customers who wanted a belt driven set, we used the old axiom of " for every 1000 watts you must use ( at least ) 2 HP at the prime mover ( engine ) , if the Winco you have there is a 2,000 watt output, then that would mean a 4HP engine should suffice,..in theory. But if you want a smooth and 'clean' flow of power then add more HP at the prime mover, but also, make sure you have a powerful and well tuned prime mover. When Winco made these belt driven sets, they went a bit over on the HP of the PM ( engine) to ensure this good stable electrical power. Thumbs up for good ol' Wincos!
Hello! I need your help! I have a engine Briggs and Stratton, 11 hp, from a Westwood lawn mower. The previous owner make a reparation and put a new crank rod, a piston, with piston rings and I'm not sure he put in corect position. Can you show me what is corect position to mont all this please? Little sketch, or diagram, even a hand drawn? The piston have a little grove on his margin. Thank you!
Do you still have that little simplicity serf 515 tractor? I had one about 7 years ago when i was 15 years old. It taught me basic mechanical skills and got me into wrenching on stuff. I sold it years ago for like $100 if i remember correctly and man do I miss it. I wish i never sold it. Im now into tuning turbo cars and old stand up jetskis but man do i miss that tractor.
Ah yes, the forgotten 515... Yep, still have it sitting on the side of the house under cover. Have to get that back up and going this spring sometime... They're a hard to find tractor! Turbo cars sound like they could be fun, especially if you have a standard shift haha.
Hey I’m new to your channel and I haven’t watched all of your videos on the Gravely 4x4 project, but that interests me since I Have a Gravely walk behind. Do any of the videos tell how you linked each one together via the PTO? I’m curious if you had to turn the guts around in one or? Thanks
Nice Find Jake! That's a really neat little unit! Nice and Compact! Is this a 1800 RPM unit or is it something weird like 2200? Kinda hard to tell lol. Either way it definitely is a hell of a lot nicer to listen to than a modern 3600 rpm screamer!! I'm actually working on a very similar unit for a friend right now! I think you really need to get a multimeter that measures more stuff or maybe a Kill-a-Watt meter if you are going to be messing with generators because the voltage that it's outputting doesn't really mean squat if the frequency of the electricity is way off lol. From all the messing around I have done with my Wisconsin powered Little Red Devil Light Plant I've found that having the frequency set around 60 Hz is most important, even if the generator is outputting a bit high. Cheaper generators like these will tend to output a bit on the high side voltage wise unloaded and droop a bit underload. I know you have a lot going on, but it sure would be neat to see you go through this engine and do a rebuild on it. Would make for a really cool little video series (or maybe even a time lapse) and a really nice running gen set! Looking forward to seeing that Kohler Light plant too! : )
I'd say around the 2200 range. Gen head is rated for 3600 and with the pulley ratio, engine has to be in the mid 2000's range somewhere. Yeah, I gotta get me some more intricate multi meters some day. I actually have a few old school ones here with more settings than you can shake a stick at, but I need to figure out how to use them lol. Rebuild would be cool! But, the projects list says otherwise!
У меня все хорошо. Сейчас, когда наступила весна, я очень занят работой. Не так много времени для видео. Скоро загружается видео с быстрым обновлением ...
Im really enjoying these regular videos!
Gonna see if I can keep them coming every 2-3 weeks!
Nice easy project!
Good one Jake...I learn something from each upload
Thanks trackdog
Keep up the good work!!!! Huge fan
Thanks Alexander!
Always a special treat to find an old engine still with it's original piece of equipment! Really nice set there.
i made a gocart dragster from a lawn mower and an 18 hp 12 foot long that wood pull 12 ft high wheeles and had revers damn i feel old great engine!
Glad to see some videos from you I always enjoy watching them
Thanks Ray, glad to have you here.
Hello Jake, I have a antique 1958 Winco Generator Briggs model 23A unit. Found at yard sale that was bought new with supposedly fifty or so hours on the unit. Lived in basement for backup power. Paid seventy five dollar for the genset. Runs like new old stock. Hope to find a larger one with a two cylinder Wisconsin engine.
Cool little machine, can't say I've ever seen a generator setup like that beside the driving motor. Definitely a nice unit even if it smokes, could say it's to keep the bugs away lol.
Dual purpose, blitz fogger and a generator haha.
Nice unit someday I’m gonna find me a antique generator unit just because I want all my household appliances and equipment to be antique or vintage
That would be cool, set up your house so it was all 50's - 60's vintage stuff. Seen it done!
@@5Tractorguy I definitely want to at least 1950s and 60s stuff
Nice job , take it with you on the next camping trip to keep away from mosquitoes 🤣👍👍🇺🇸
My great uncles had one of those gen sets for a long time in our milk house on our farm, it used to run a vacuum pump for our pneumatic surge bucket milkers
Cool my pop used to talk about their dairy farm they had an old Briggs 2.5 hp engine to run the vacuum and wHen the power was out
Bet it had a lot of run time on it too. Pretty neat how some farms were ran (and may still be) before electricity was ran to all the buildings.
@@5Tractorguy yea it had a heck of a lot of run time, it was rebuilt a couple times but after our new barn was built we had electricity to the barn but still had it for backup power
crank and run on the second pull thats pretty good Jake, you do fine work and I look forward to all of your videos, hope your still busy with work, see ya on the next one.
Thanks Mule. Still busy as ever here... got a full service truck schedule for April!
Those oil bath air filters are know to make an engine smoke ! At least it ran on # 2 pull ! Lol
I didn't even think of that! Thanks Dave, going to have to pull the a/c off just for kicks next time I fire it up... never know.
Great video as always buddy hopefully they will have the tractor show in eliot this year you'll have to come up
That would be neat! The local truck show is scheduled down here but not tractor shows. If Elliot happens, I'll have to ride up. Been a while now...
Awsome. To bad it can't talk because love to hear the stories behind it through the yrs
man I worked on a lot of those old B&S with points back in the day
Nice work and video as usual Jake! Haven't had any time here to make more videos, been so busy!
Thanks Will! The spring flood gates have officially opened haha, I'm in the same boat now too. Happy Easter.
@@5Tractorguy Happy Easter to you and your family too my friend. Spring flood gates are open here too. Almost through all of the commercial equipment as well.
That generator looks like the one I have except mine doesn't have the square box thing on top...the tag on mine is partly readable but it is 2000 watts 17.4 amps 115 volts...I'm using a 1975 tiller engine, a 5 hp Briggs...with a 1/4 inch bigger pulley on the motor it makes 120 volts about half throttle, but I'm gunna need an oil ring...
Built-in mosquito repellent!
My girlfriends dad has that generator. It’s been sitting but I’ll be getting it going for him
Lol another one exists. I almost never see these.
Nice camera work and the editing was very good! It looked like the oil check came just before the start up, but that was only for the camera, I'm sure.
Thanks Tolba! T'was... I didn't remember to film checking the oil, so I figured if I didn't show it on camera, someone would say something.
Thanks, Jake nd though I don't smoke anymore and haven't for years, that rig runs a site better than I do although I'm 5 years older than it is. It'll be worth doing some work on. I'd love to have it if I didn't have the old 2.5 Onan out of the old Winnie. You had me worried with 'Oh What A Night' at the 1st but you redeemed yourself later on when the 5 fired up. Keep on fixing and picking and not in that order sometimes! GBWYall
Ha! I KNEW that was going to catch someone off guard! You and Eric Course both said the same thing... Every now and again I get on a 60's - 70's kick, but that good ol' bluegrass and country always ropes me back in and sets me right!
@@5Tractorguy Well, Jake, it just proves you're wrapped as loose as the rest of us. I like the 60's/70's stuff too but the old bluegrass is my standard, being raised and living square-dab in the middle of it. All you're doing is keeping all of us honest! Keep after it and GBWYou, Buddy!
Awesome vedios!!!
Looks like the same engine in my old 66 Dayton generator my engine might be a little bigger though
Maybe it was a model 19 or 23? Same basic appearance, higher HP.
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Nice.
Ck the valves might be worn stems or guides . Rings may be worn this engine Is worth the rebuild cost of parts. If my memory is right its cast iron block Briggs. They're made to last and can be bored several times.
Do you ever have the need to check the hertz on these old gen sets?
I haven't had to, but I should do so just for kicks. Need to pick up a hertz meter one of these days.
As annoying as the belt must be, I do like the way it can do a "gear" ratio so the engine doesn't have to run at 3600 (I'm sure my neighbors would appreciate it as well). Do you have frequency (Hz) on that multimeter? You probably already know this but 60Hz would be 3600 RPM normally (62.5 no load on these generators) but you got a belt ratio there.
Does the tap handle reside there on the bench or did you chase some threads. I thought I was hearing things at first with 70's pop music.
I ran a bottom tap down through the main jet threads... just to clean the crust out. You heard correct, I knew that was going to draw some attention haha.
Runs longer than most 66yr men I know
I used to sell/service/rent Winco Generators back in the 1980's, these sure were durable and dependable gen sets ( as long as the engine was kept in top running condition.)
I'm curious , what is the rated RPM of the generator?
We often did an upgrade to these , we changed out the pulleys to double sheave 'B' section v-belts to ensure steady hertz and voltage.
1800 RPM sets were the most stable, we found, of course the 1800 RPM generators demanded a much larger HP engine.
I've often regretted that I did not hold on to one of these Winco Generators for myself, oh well, I do enjoy watching you work on this to bring it back to life.
They seemed like a pretty popular brand back in the day. Even searching around for old generators for sale, Wincos turn up quite a bit... new and old... Generator head is rated at 3600. Got an old Onan gen set here too that runs at 1800, nice quiet, even power!
@@5Tractorguy When we sized up a generator set for some of our customers who wanted a belt driven set, we used the old axiom of " for every 1000 watts you must use
( at least ) 2 HP at the prime mover ( engine ) , if the Winco you have there is a 2,000 watt output, then that would mean a 4HP engine should suffice,..in theory. But if you want a smooth and 'clean' flow of power then add more HP at the prime mover, but also, make sure you have a powerful and well tuned prime mover. When Winco made these belt driven sets, they went a bit over on the HP of the PM ( engine) to ensure this good stable electrical power. Thumbs up for good ol' Wincos!
Who do you use for a parts supplier? I’ve been looking for a bar coil for the same type of motor with no luck.
Maple Grove Distributing, Rotary, Stens and SMA. I can get them new through Maple Grove for $35 plus S/H.
Hello! I need your help! I have a engine Briggs and Stratton, 11 hp, from a Westwood lawn mower. The previous owner make a reparation and put a new crank rod, a piston, with piston rings and I'm not sure he put in corect position. Can you show me what is corect position to mont all this please? Little sketch, or diagram, even a hand drawn? The piston have a little grove on his margin. Thank you!
You still got that green 73 chevy k series
looks like that Engine needs a new set of piston rings
Do you still have that little simplicity serf 515 tractor? I had one about 7 years ago when i was 15 years old. It taught me basic mechanical skills and got me into wrenching on stuff. I sold it years ago for like $100 if i remember correctly and man do I miss it. I wish i never sold it. Im now into tuning turbo cars and old stand up jetskis but man do i miss that tractor.
Ah yes, the forgotten 515... Yep, still have it sitting on the side of the house under cover. Have to get that back up and going this spring sometime... They're a hard to find tractor! Turbo cars sound like they could be fun, especially if you have a standard shift haha.
Hey I’m new to your channel and I haven’t
watched all of your videos on the Gravely
4x4 project, but that interests me since I
Have a Gravely walk behind.
Do any of the videos tell how you linked
each one together via the PTO? I’m curious
if you had to turn the guts around in one or?
Thanks
Just bought a bolens 1476 with 14hp wisconsin but no carb where can i find a carb...appreciate any help
Nice Find Jake! That's a really neat little unit! Nice and Compact! Is this a 1800 RPM unit or is it something weird like 2200? Kinda hard to tell lol. Either way it definitely is a hell of a lot nicer to listen to than a modern 3600 rpm screamer!! I'm actually working on a very similar unit for a friend right now! I think you really need to get a multimeter that measures more stuff or maybe a Kill-a-Watt meter if you are going to be messing with generators because the voltage that it's outputting doesn't really mean squat if the frequency of the electricity is way off lol. From all the messing around I have done with my Wisconsin powered Little Red Devil Light Plant I've found that having the frequency set around 60 Hz is most important, even if the generator is outputting a bit high. Cheaper generators like these will tend to output a bit on the high side voltage wise unloaded and droop a bit underload. I know you have a lot going on, but it sure would be neat to see you go through this engine and do a rebuild on it. Would make for a really cool little video series (or maybe even a time lapse) and a really nice running gen set! Looking forward to seeing that Kohler Light plant too! : )
I'd say around the 2200 range. Gen head is rated for 3600 and with the pulley ratio, engine has to be in the mid 2000's range somewhere. Yeah, I gotta get me some more intricate multi meters some day. I actually have a few old school ones here with more settings than you can shake a stick at, but I need to figure out how to use them lol. Rebuild would be cool! But, the projects list says otherwise!
1:38 is why you get paid the big bucks
And just like that, your parts are nowhere to be found lol
I wonder why the air-cleaner cover doesn't seem to fit on straight.
Think it might've been biffed at one point...
@@5Tractorguy Many were, the bottom's pretty thin.
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У меня все хорошо. Сейчас, когда наступила весна, я очень занят работой. Не так много времени для видео. Скоро загружается видео с быстрым обновлением ...
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