O great shammy dude been asking LONG time but plz gimme a good break down on Honda cb1000R??? Looking at buying one soon coming from their 13' cb1100 n can't wait to test ride one! The whole throttle by wire and rider modes seems interesting and the custom setting sounds amazing! But would love a good break down from ol papa noob plz?????
The TW 200 is actually a Farm Bike marketed to people who own farms that use them to get around their property and also lets them check fences without burning a lot of gas. They're a utility vehicle.
Australia and South Africa call it the AG 200. The AG(riculture) variant has a few goodies that the TW doesn't like an included kick start to back up the electric starter (because what can go wrong 10 miles deep on your property?) and a rear and front rack standard. You never see them sold used because people never get rid of them. You find them on the Yamaha Australia website if you want to see the difference.
Get a lot of compliments from bikers and non-bikers alike. If you want something for the love of the ride and explore where other bikes wouldn’t dare it’s a solid choice.
The Vulcan 900 is the ultimate beginner cruiser. Well balanced with manageable power, makes all the right V-twin noises, is incredibly reliable and cheap to maintain, and are cheap AF on the used market.
@@javiersalvatierra9425 Vulcan 900 has 55hp, and a very low center of gravity with good balance, actually very good cruiser for a beginner who wants to get into cruisers
my main selling point on the vulcan s was that i could comfortably handle it even though i’m only 5’1 (maybe 5’3 in boots). the adjustable options they offer for it are super cool and it’s a great beginner bike. yeah if you’re a super experienced rider i can see how it would be pretty lame but i think it could potentially last me a long time because it handles well but will whip if i want it to. as someone who could never touch the ground on almost any sport bike, it’s nice having a bike that will slide right out from under my butt if i rip the throttle. i can totally get how seasoned riders who know everything about every bike wouldn’t look twice at a vulcan, but for some of us, it’s a great bike and easy to just have fun with.
I'm a seasoned biker who is happy Mid engined. For weight and handling benefits. As a 5'3" I properly reviewed and researched. My test ride had me smiling so much, i shook hands. The adjustable pegs are my first delve into forward sets. Smile and wave at the haters.
I've been riding H-D's for 30 years, and I'm often recommending Japanese bikes to new/ vertically challenged riders. Bought both my kids Vulcan 650's when they graduated highschool. Now that they're grown, I'm keeping my Geezer Glide, but looking for a deal on a Honda Fury.
I've had Harleys Triumphs Yamaha, and my favorite bike so far is the Honda Shadow 1100 Spirit. It's built really well Water Cooled Self adjusting valves shaft drive mechanical clutch and rear brake no electronics carburated and looks great and keeps up with all the other cruisers out there and only costs 8k brand new and will run forever with no issues. I was bummed when they stopped making them in 2007. I think it was the best motorcycle ever built for longevity and low maintenance.
I got a 2016 shadow phantomand I love it but I wish there was an 1100 or 1200 to upgrade to later. It’s a great bike though and I got one with 4K miles for 4600$ , definitely feel like I got the right bike for me.
My father has a spirit 1100 and he’s got an obscene amount of miles on it. The other day he mentioned that he’s only changed the fluids and tires and brakes. It’s never had a single part fail. I don’t remember the exact number but it’s over 100k
I love my Vulcan 900 Classic and got it new for 8k. I've paid three times that in the past for a Streetglide and loved that bike too but it cost me a fortune. Not daring to risk voiding the warranty on a bike that had numerous small issues. For the money I put pipes an intake and flashed the ECU within 2 months of buying it. That was kind of the point. The Vulcan allowed me to do what we all used to do with Harleys back in the day. I've been able to customize it to my liking and I haven't tried to start it without it roaring right to life in over 3 years. Oh yeah, sounds like a Harley used to sound too. Don't get me wrong, I still love Harleys but I get what I want without paying thru the nose with my 900.
Only Vulcan we get over here is the 650. Since developing a new engine with modern restrictions is a very costly affair, manufacturers will make an engine and throw it on many different platforms. You cannot possibly interchange an engine between your superbikes and choppers though, they need to have very different characteristics. A chopper with an engine you need to rev to enjoy isn't cutting it right from the start. So yes, lots of people like it but cruiser lifestyle absolutely calls for cruiser engine. I spend 99.9% of my time in the low to mid range and if I'm on the lookout for a cruiser style bike the Vulcan is a huge compromise.
I own a HD XR1200 and I will never sell it. It is going to my 12 year old son some day. I went to the Harley Dealership and test rode the Fat Bob 114 it is was a dog. I test rode the new Sportster S. It was faster than my XR but lacked the punch. My XR handled better and is more of a sportbike. The S was ok but it was just a cruiser. It is like a Polaris Indian Scout. The Fat Bob was like $23,000 out the door with all those fees. The S was $15,999 and they wanted $19,000 out the door. No fucking way. I went to the KTM/Husky dealership and bought a KTM 880 Duke R with 1200 miles. It was on consignment. It was already set up. It has a exhaust, flashed, fender eliminator kit, upgraded triple clamps, LED signals etc. They wanted $12,000.A new one is $12,500 plus another $2500-3000 in fees. I offered them $11,000. I guess they realized Christmas is coming and took it. I had to pay tax and tags. I saved around $6000. Plus I got a faster, lighter, sportbike. Back to my roots. 40 years after buying my first sportbike in 1982. I had plenty of them in between.
I swear, this guy must get a royalty check from HD every time he hates on the Vulcan. I have yet to meet anyone who hates, criticizes or makes fun of my Vulcan 900 Custom. I have a whole family of HD riders and they love my bike. I agree with the Vulcan S being strange, but i wouldnt lump it in with the rest of the Vulcan lineup. Any time i want feel bad about my bike, i just have to pull up one Noobs videos. I enjoy his channel but good grief.
@@iuyozx I like it when he said that Vulcan riders get so mad at him when he hates on them. Well i wonder why? Maybe its because he is the only one saying it. LOL
You saved yourself with the TW 200. I had one and it was a terrific little bike. Yes it's a little slow... ITS A 200!!! We know it's going to be slow! It's a damn good all round dependable small bike. On road, off road and it will carry you at 60 to 65 on the highway. To and from work, perfect! On the farm, (where mine is now) perfect. People like this bike.
The reason metric cruisers exist is because they come with a lower cost & less Maintenance. Yes, I am a metric noob with a C50, I like the FI and shaft drive and smooth revving of the 805cc VTwin. It's my first bike & I'm not pretending to be a Harley rider!
@@jamesjones5523 It's a nice bike and even tho it really is heavy (600lbs) it doesn't feel heavy and rides nice. I'm happy with it, I got a good deal on it and don't regret it! Much better then trying to find a cheap Harley IMO
I like my Vulcan 1600. It's more powerful and handles better than by brother's Harley, it looks better, it cost me a tiny faction of the Harley (older used Vulcans are practically free), and it's more reliable. Call it a Harley wannabe if you like. I say a lot of the Harleys are Vulcan 1600, or 1800, or Vulcan 2000 wannabes.
The DR650 is a pretty great bike, ironically my dad has one (and to make it better, I ride a WR250R). He has done alot of tinkering to it, but coming off a KTM SXF250, he wanted better suspension. Month later he has WR450 front suspension and an oliens rear shock, and wow it soaks up rough riding very well. It's a total dad bike, but I've watched dad do massive wheelies on it, and rip it at neck breaking speeds down trails I was getting nervous to keep up with, and I'm on a 2020 WR250R, tuned, setup perfectly, and other mods. It's crazy
i got a 2022 drz and i’ve absolutely loved every second of modifying every little thing i could. i bought it at 19 and love it to death. DRZ deserves a little less hate
I got a 2019 vulcan 900 custom with 15k miles for just under 8 grand out the door a few months ago As a first bike, it’s perfect and looks great Is it fast? Hell no. But it’s fun to ride, handles well, and is absolutely bullet proof
Love my Honda rebel 1100 dct. I'm older now with arthritis so the dct gave me a new lease on life when it comes to riding. I like alot of other bikes but the rebel 1100 is just near and dear to my hart.
I'm a Harley guy. If I ever defect from Harley, I really like the Rebel 1100, and the smaller 650cc, Rebel might be an option also. I ride an 02' FXSTDI Soft Tail Deuce. I refuse to own a fly by wire Harley. I am older also. I can't stay in the saddle all day, like I used to. I hang onto my bike because I believe 2002 was the best of the 88ciB engine. timkin, solid crank, Delphi injection and my bike is an uncommon soft tail. 2cm bigger frame than a soft tail standard of its day. Maybe I will ad a Rebel to my barn and keep my Deuce.
The last bike my dad owned (back in the 90s) was a Virago 750. I've had a SR125, GPX250R, GSX600F, and now a Fatboy. Looking at a Scrambler/Adv bike next up as I moved house and there are more off-road potentials here (and I want something lighter now). Never understood the hate for metric cruisers, they played a their own niche game. Yes, they looked like Harleys but were plastic not iron and chrome; but that is a good thing to some and a bad thing to others. No one criticized road-focussed adv bikes for not being enduros, you just accept that they offer a particular experience. Likewise, metric cruisers offered a light (literally) crusier experience, Harley/Victory/Indian offer the more heavy-weight end. Anything beyond these 2 roles is just badge snobbery, and I really don't get that. Though, to be honest I don't get why you pay x amount of £ or $ more for a shirt that has Gucci written on it over one that says Walmart....its still just a shirt and probably comes out of the same factory. The only bikes I struggled to understand were the road rockets of the late 00s, when macho statistics over-ruled on-road (if not track) capability, especially in the 600 class. But eventually people realised the Emperor was wearing no clothes, and the class died...until the 'road sports bike' now sees its long overdue return (eg: R7, CBR650R, Aprilia 660)
6 foot 300lbs of me loves my Vulcan 900. It is a good start bike for me because I fit really comfortably and has decent power for someone like me. My ONLY gripe with it the 5 speed transmission. I got it for 8k so absolute bang for buck.
If you want to pep it up without spending much ,air cleaner Vance n h short shots ,n screaming eagle race tuner , have o7 ç model , stock it was ok now ,she completely different animal , couple of hrs and a laptop ,friends with real Harley s admit it's fast for 883 , I'll take a strong block over the 12oo any day
@@jeffreystorer4966 mine is a 2005 so it's carbureted. Already have k&n air filter and Vance and Hines exhaust. It's just enough to cruise around and be enjoyable.
0:50 Its funny, because if 'heritage vibe' were what most Harley riders actually wanted, they'd be buying stuff like Janus or Royal Enfield because that's what pre-WWII Harley's and Indians looked like, and unless you were Quasimodo, you sat with your junk at the same height as the fuel cap and your handlebars would have been belt-level. Even the Army Harleys during WWII only had 750CC engines putting out 25hp. But Harley Guys are fine letting Easy Rider and the Hell's Angels define "Harley Davidson" instead of real Harley-Davidson history. That's why Harley won't remake the old Hummer, which sold 32,000 bikes in the '50s with a 2hp engine, or the Aermacchi-made rebadged Italian bikes of the '60s and '70s.
The iron 883 is like the Nickelback of motorcycles. Everybody swears they hate them, but they keep selling albums🤷🏾♂️. "It's a girl's bike" but let's be real most Harley bros start on one. You have no problem finding a used one, but that also means a dealer sold it to someone at some point. The aftermarket parts availability to these bikes is so big you could arguably build one that has no Harley Davidson parts on it. So clown on it all you want but I imagine that HD is laughing all the way to the bank.
They didn't discontinue them due to sales. They couldn't meet emissions regulations in Europe. So they built the new nightster with the rev max engine and it just didn't make financial sense to keep making the iron 883. 🤷🏾♂️
Of course looks aren't everything but personally I think the Vulcan 900 Custom is one of the best looking bikes out there. I don't have one but I'd like to
7:45 Hahaha! Suzuki... Right... Here in the Philippines, motorcyclists and drivers also hate another Suzuki, the Raider R150 (150cc). About 90% of those who own one are hardcore squids who always cause trouble.
Honda CBR500R is meant to be a daily commuter bike that looks good much like the Rebel 500. That is why the handlebar is higher than other sports bike. It is not meant to be the fastest. It is also more fuel efficient than the Kawasaki Z400/Ninja 400 and Yamaha R3/MT-03 despite of the CBR500R being heavier and have a higher displacement.
Wow just googled the mpg on this bike, 72mpg. My ninja 400 gets around 50. Of course the fuel efficiency is also affected by how you ride it, and with the Honda only revving to 8k rpms vs the Ninja 12k, it kinda forces you to have better mpg
I had a Vulcan EN500. Threw 40k miles on that bike. It wasn’t exciting power-wise, but it did it’s job and maintenance requirements were low. As long as you changed the oil and swapped the tires, that bike would get you there. Add: I also threw 10k miles on a CBR500r. It was a great beginners bike. Parts were cheap, easy to maintain, had a fuel gauge, and it rode perfectly for a beginner. I’d still recommend one for a first bike. That said, would I ever recommend anyone keep one forever? No. I also had a Gixxer 750. 🤷🏻♂️ Add 2: my current daily is a BMW GS. Man. You following me around? 😣
Yikes, riding a Vulcan 900 classic currently. I’m not proud of it, but when you have limited means, you do what you have to do. And no, I’m not at all defensive when someone craps on it! 😅 I do it too…
@@seriousandy6656 Nice, I’ve looked quite a bit at the Vaquero reviews on various channels, they look quite formidable, I worry a bit about the weight difference from the 900, but I’m sure it’s balanced well…
@@ShortCircuit1987 The Vaq 1700 is balanced well but very heavy, a bit tall (for me)and the lean angles aren't great. But if you just want a bagger for 5k less than the Harley EQ, then this is the bike for you...
Be proud! I get nothing compliments on my 18 900 classic. From harley guys to car normies. It lacks on power now that I'm out of the begginer stage but still a blast to ride. I changed the front pulley and getting it Ivan tuned this month and adding exhaust next month should wake it up quite a bit.
My first bike is an 06’ Vulcan 500 that I got for a steal. Wife wanted my first one to be something I wouldn’t necessarily kill myself with. It’ll get up and go and handles extremely well for a cruiser. I’m looking to ride it maybe another year and then getting something more sporty with a few more ponies. As a first bike I could have certainly done worse. Asked around with some friends and such that have been riding for years even sport bikes and they all agreed when I was looking for one that it would be a great starter and have a good reliability record.
The Iron 883 has one strength. It's exactly what you call a weakness. You can buy a used one for a bent nickle. If you want to be a Harley guy but need to learn to handle the weight, an underpowered 883 isn't a terrible buy. Get it, ride it, drop it, then sell it when you are ready for a fat bob or whatever.
The older Vulcan's are half decent. My Cousin has a 2000 800 I think and it Rides Pretty good. Plus He has a set of Vance and Hines Pipe's that honestly sound better than most Harley's.
I'm fairly new to the Motorbike scene and didnt know the Iron883 was hated. I saw a custom that looked particularly cool and was probably what i was going to get full licence but now im not sure. @Yammie Noob maybe you could suggest alternatives for folks who maybe got hit with the markerting factor? ' you like the looks of X, maybe get the Y instead because of better all round stats'. Maybe that could be another video?
Get what appeals to you within reason. The 883 is a decent starter bike and was my first one. Although it’s not the easiest to turn and definitely isn’t fast, i never bought it for the speed factor. My primary draw was the classic look and vast customization ability to make it your own. I got nothing but compliments and questions about what it was and never any hate. 883 is as barebones as it gets with little to no technology/ creature comforts so bare that in mind
Word, I have a 883 and have never gotten anything but positive comments on it. Starting to think Yammie is the one who hates these bikes and not others
For a first bike and or cruiser I'd go for the suzuki intruder Vz800, very easy to ride, reliable, cheap bike with very little maintenance, found the harleys heavy and uncomfortable with awkward clunky controls and the 2 guys I know with harleys never ride them because they're broken 90% of the time, in a straight line though wouldn't say they're slow though, the torque from the 1200 feels great, but that's one of the only good things I can say about them though
I have a '21 Z650 and the engine is OK. It's like "yes, I am doing the thing. I am a motorcycle." Really not inspiring, but it's reliable and gets the job done. I like the looks of the Z650, they make some people vomit, but I like it. (It is my first bike so it's been plenty exciting). My coworker just bought a '23 Vulcan S 650. It looks REALLY good in person. All my coworkers are AMERICAN CAPITALISTS who ride HARLEY DAVIDSONS BROTHER and they're gushing about how good that bike looks and how I'm a little wussy man for having a trash bike. Whatever. Moral of the story, If you're trying to relax and want a stylish cruiser and aren't into the Motorcycle culture metagame, the Vulcan S is probably a pretty sweet option.
I love my TW it was originally bought for my wife but she doesn’t ride it so it’s mine now. It’s modified to my liking has a long off-road range and has taken me to mountain tops without fail. How did it make it on this list it just can’t be not the beloved tdub I demand a recount!
I had a teedubb many years ago, one of my favorite memories is wheeling away from a light after being stared down by an Acura intgregra full of teenagers, reviving the cam bearings off of it ❤😂
Jokes on you yammie, im so used to getting made fun of on my vulcan 650 that my next bike is about to be a ktm 890. They will still make fun of me, but not outrun me.
Nobody anymore, they were a big thing in the '00s, and I do mean big as they were in a V-twin arms race that harley chose not to participate in haha. Bikes like the Vulcan 2000 (yes an actual 2.0L v-twin) the Yamaha roadliner/stratoliner with a 1900cc v-twin, the suzuki M109R which has nearly 130hp and has been around since 2006
If you count the Rebel 3/5/11 -00's as a cruiser, check out LifeOfBurch on youtube, he's maybe the most consistent Rebel youtuber. Also, I own a Shadow 1100, no regrets
Imagine being from the UK. I’m 16 on a 50cc lecmoto Diablo. Can’t get anything bigger than a 135 until I’m 17. Love hearing people complain about 250s being too slow😭
Great video, a few honorable mentions: Honda XLs (those letters matter?) NC700 (lazy rider) Can-Am Spyder (thats not a motorcycle) just buy an original Mini Cooper, it’s easier to split lanes with.
Holy Christ already. Ride what you love. Love what you ride. Who gives a rats ass what anyone else thinks about it as long as it makes you happy. In the end thats all that matters.
Very well done video. I'm so pleased to learn there are no Triumphs on your hate list. That's my bike; the 2018 Speedmaster, 1200, 6 sp., gets all the attention in a parking lot of bikes. :)
I ride a '77 BMW R100RS with over 250000mi. I have ridden the Alaska highway several times and many more places than I can remember. Your characterization on BMW riders is totally untrue from my experience but admittedly I don't travel among others often preferring the road and the scenery to talking.
I live in SEA part of the world. Here, we got a cruiser bike named SM V16 (for some reason it has alot of other names such as WM moto v16, lyfan lucan(?)) its my first ever cruiser bike at 250cc, its the bike that gets me into riding motorcycles esp cruiser types. You might wanna check this one out yammie, i know its extremely low end compared to all the bikes you have reviewed so far. But imho, it is definitely a good choice for newbie riders to see if they really do like cruiser type bikes and super easy to ride. Like. Really easy.
I was looking at the tw as a first bike after I got my class m, then my car shit the bed. Now all I'm looking at is my bank account to make sure my car loan payment has already come out before buying gas & food 😡
I bought an '06 DRZS new and sold it last year. I've owned numerous bikes along side it but eventually I replaced it with a '21 690E. From a power-to-weight perspective, the 690 replaces like 9 motorcycles and I am super happy with it. I can't relate to what the DRZ crowd degenerated to. When I see a new DRZ on the road, I look at it like a classic car "wow, they still make that thing." Tired of reading posts like "what's the best gearing?" The $700 ACT gearset, not a final-drive sproket combo ya broke bastard. Or a dirtbike made in an SM variant with a confused owner rocking knobbies on 17s... I can't do it.
My most hated bike was one a girlfriend rode. Do you remember the Honda Matic? The bike was made famous by a certain recording artist, Who Loved purple.
Funny more than a few big displacement Harley riders have trouble keeping up with a good rider on on an 883 Sportster on anything but an interstate highway. Slow bike + fast rider is better than a slow rider on a slightly faster bike. Pretender bikes from yester year from Japan are a little sad yet the Chinese knock offs is just wrong. The BMW R9Ts are not expensive, have a bit of character and the performance is much better than most expect.
I still have my Vulcan but it's an '04 800 Classic. I don't really ride it much since I bought an Indian Chief Vintage and I honestly have no idea what to do with it. Do I sell it? For a '04 I probably won't get much for it. Keep it? Idk I hardly ride it much anymore as it is so I have no idea what to do with it
My '99 883 is in the same category as a Triumph twin, the real clown bikes that make me laugh are the big baggers with their 36" front wheels & $3,000. paint jobs.
People don't buy metric cruisers because they're cheap. People don't want to spend $20,000 for a Harley-Davidson when they can buy just as good a bike for a fraction of the cost. It doesn't make them cheap, it makes them smart. I'd rather own BOTH a metric cruiser and something like an MT07 rather than one overpriced Harley-Davidson any day of the week, twice on Tuesday.
Did not know that the TW was so "disliked" there. Because here in Japan (at the time) it was actually quite an easy to ride inexpensive popular base motorcycle for custom bikes too, cheers
I have a ninja 636 and love it but i want a daily and was thinkin a vulcan 650 just cuz gas mileage and to put bags on it. Thought it has potential being that i dont care for the vtwin sound. Their cheep, reliable and a quick exhaust change will do it with some bags. Or so i thought
Guy's STOP HATING ON CARB'S lol. There are way to many misconception's about Carburetor's that just aren't true. You don't need to basically rebuild Them every Season. They do Preform just as well as EFI, especially in Naturally Aspirated application's. Actually Carb's can typically make more Power than an EFI set up. And the Emission's benefit's of EFI aren't even really noticable...
My first bike was an Iron 883. Shit suspension, shit brakes, dog of an engine, rode like a tractor. It was awesome and I rode its tits off as often as I could. And if the cement salesman with the farkled out Ultra Glide called it a girl's bike, I just had to start it. It was louder than his. But then again, that was the problem. It was loud enough to be a dad magnet.
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O great shammy dude been asking LONG time but plz gimme a good break down on Honda cb1000R??? Looking at buying one soon coming from their 13' cb1100 n can't wait to test ride one! The whole throttle by wire and rider modes seems interesting and the custom setting sounds amazing! But would love a good break down from ol papa noob plz?????
The TW 200 is actually a Farm Bike marketed to people who own farms that use them to get around their property and also lets them check fences without burning a lot of gas. They're a utility vehicle.
Australia and South Africa call it the AG 200. The AG(riculture) variant has a few goodies that the TW doesn't like an included kick start to back up the electric starter (because what can go wrong 10 miles deep on your property?) and a rear and front rack standard. You never see them sold used because people never get rid of them. You find them on the Yamaha Australia website if you want to see the difference.
Tough as nails, slow as hails but who cares , every one is a little beast.
Loved my tw200, very fun bike to ride
Get a lot of compliments from bikers and non-bikers alike. If you want something for the love of the ride and explore where other bikes wouldn’t dare it’s a solid choice.
For oldsters like me, the T-Dub is a nice easy trip down memory lane. It reminds many of their first bike (me included).
The Vulcan 900 is the ultimate beginner cruiser. Well balanced with manageable power, makes all the right V-twin noises, is incredibly reliable and cheap to maintain, and are cheap AF on the used market.
Not so cheap in the European market, sadly :(
900cc for begginer... Yeah right. Less then 900 doesnt exist then
@@javiersalvatierra9425 It's a 900cc v-twin, barely pushing 50hp - it's more than decent for a beginner
@@StirbMensch thats the point. I think to mucho even haha
@@javiersalvatierra9425 Vulcan 900 has 55hp, and a very low center of gravity with good balance, actually very good cruiser for a beginner who wants to get into cruisers
my main selling point on the vulcan s was that i could comfortably handle it even though i’m only 5’1 (maybe 5’3 in boots). the adjustable options they offer for it are super cool and it’s a great beginner bike. yeah if you’re a super experienced rider i can see how it would be pretty lame but i think it could potentially last me a long time because it handles well but will whip if i want it to. as someone who could never touch the ground on almost any sport bike, it’s nice having a bike that will slide right out from under my butt if i rip the throttle. i can totally get how seasoned riders who know everything about every bike wouldn’t look twice at a vulcan, but for some of us, it’s a great bike and easy to just have fun with.
I'm a seasoned biker who is happy Mid engined. For weight and handling benefits. As a 5'3" I properly reviewed and researched. My test ride had me smiling so much, i shook hands. The adjustable pegs are my first delve into forward sets.
Smile and wave at the haters.
I've been riding H-D's for 30 years, and I'm often recommending Japanese bikes to new/ vertically challenged riders.
Bought both my kids Vulcan 650's when they graduated highschool.
Now that they're grown, I'm keeping my Geezer Glide, but looking for a deal on a Honda Fury.
As someone who works at a BMW dealership, can confirm about all the BMW owners' clichés
No matter the brand, the hate remains the same.
Don't own one, but the Vulcan 900 is one if the best bangs for your buck if you're into old-school cruisers
I just bought one for 9k new Vulcan 900 classic. I love it
@ImChronicallyMe he’s not a Harley fan at all thiugh
I've had Harleys Triumphs Yamaha, and my favorite bike so far is the Honda Shadow 1100 Spirit. It's built really well Water Cooled Self adjusting valves shaft drive mechanical clutch and rear brake no electronics carburated and looks great and keeps up with all the other cruisers out there and only costs 8k brand new and will run forever with no issues. I was bummed when they stopped making them in 2007. I think it was the best motorcycle ever built for longevity and low maintenance.
I got a 94 shadow 1100 back in April and I love it, I have hydraulic clutch on mine though and honestly I love the feel of it
Yup had two
I got a 2016 shadow phantomand I love it but I wish there was an 1100 or 1200 to upgrade to later. It’s a great bike though and I got one with 4K miles for 4600$ , definitely feel like I got the right bike for me.
My father has a spirit 1100 and he’s got an obscene amount of miles on it. The other day he mentioned that he’s only changed the fluids and tires and brakes. It’s never had a single part fail. I don’t remember the exact number but it’s over 100k
@@lilxtra6211 Check out the VTX 1300
I love my Vulcan 900 Classic and got it new for 8k. I've paid three times that in the past for a Streetglide and loved that bike too but it cost me a fortune. Not daring to risk voiding the warranty on a bike that had numerous small issues. For the money I put pipes an intake and flashed the ECU within 2 months of buying it. That was kind of the point. The Vulcan allowed me to do what we all used to do with Harleys back in the day. I've been able to customize it to my liking and I haven't tried to start it without it roaring right to life in over 3 years. Oh yeah, sounds like a Harley used to sound too. Don't get me wrong, I still love Harleys but I get what I want without paying thru the nose with my 900.
Only Vulcan we get over here is the 650.
Since developing a new engine with modern restrictions is a very costly affair, manufacturers will make an engine and throw it on many different platforms.
You cannot possibly interchange an engine between your superbikes and choppers though, they need to have very different characteristics.
A chopper with an engine you need to rev to enjoy isn't cutting it right from the start.
So yes, lots of people like it but cruiser lifestyle absolutely calls for cruiser engine.
I spend 99.9% of my time in the low to mid range and if I'm on the lookout for a cruiser style bike the Vulcan is a huge compromise.
I own a HD XR1200 and I will never sell it. It is going to my 12 year old son some day. I went to the Harley Dealership and test rode the Fat Bob 114 it is was a dog. I test rode the new Sportster S. It was faster than my XR but lacked the punch. My XR handled better and is more of a sportbike. The S was ok but it was just a cruiser. It is like a Polaris Indian Scout. The Fat Bob was like $23,000 out the door with all those fees. The S was $15,999 and they wanted $19,000 out the door. No fucking way. I went to the KTM/Husky dealership and bought a KTM 880 Duke R with 1200 miles. It was on consignment. It was already set up. It has a exhaust, flashed, fender eliminator kit, upgraded triple clamps, LED signals etc. They wanted $12,000.A new one is $12,500 plus another $2500-3000 in fees. I offered them $11,000. I guess they realized Christmas is coming and took it. I had to pay tax and tags. I saved around $6000. Plus I got a faster, lighter, sportbike. Back to my roots. 40 years after buying my first sportbike in 1982. I had plenty of them in between.
Metric cruisers are honestly the best bang for the buck in a lot of ways. Great sets of bikes. Vulcans, shadows, V stars, etc etc
I'd say. I picked up a Roadstar Warrior for $3700 a few months back, I couldn't be happier.
I swear, this guy must get a royalty check from HD every time he hates on the Vulcan. I have yet to meet anyone who hates, criticizes or makes fun of my Vulcan 900 Custom. I have a whole family of HD riders and they love my bike. I agree with the Vulcan S being strange, but i wouldnt lump it in with the rest of the Vulcan lineup. Any time i want feel bad about my bike, i just have to pull up one Noobs videos. I enjoy his channel but good grief.
@@iuyozx I like it when he said that Vulcan riders get so mad at him when he hates on them. Well i wonder why? Maybe its because he is the only one saying it. LOL
You saved yourself with the TW 200. I had one and it was a terrific little bike. Yes it's a little slow... ITS A 200!!! We know it's going to be slow! It's a damn good all round dependable small bike. On road, off road and it will carry you at 60 to 65 on the highway. To and from work, perfect! On the farm, (where mine is now) perfect. People like this bike.
Owned the Vulcan 900 years ago and still would love to ride one. Something wonderful about those bikes.
The reason metric cruisers exist is because they come with a lower cost & less Maintenance. Yes, I am a metric noob with a C50, I like the FI and shaft drive and smooth revving of the 805cc VTwin. It's my first bike & I'm not pretending to be a Harley rider!
I'm looking at a C50 to own. I just don't feel right spending money on a Harley.
@@jamesjones5523 It's a nice bike and even tho it really is heavy (600lbs) it doesn't feel heavy and rides nice. I'm happy with it, I got a good deal on it and don't regret it! Much better then trying to find a cheap Harley IMO
As a dentist and avid motorcyclist, this video made me laugh out loud. Thanks YN
Iron 883 or the Sportster is my favourite HD bike. It's the very image that I have when someone says HD, even from young.
YAM to be fair, BMW did win 2022 Stock 1000 Championship in Moto America
I like my Vulcan 1600. It's more powerful and handles better than by brother's Harley, it looks better, it cost me a tiny faction of the Harley (older used Vulcans are practically free), and it's more reliable. Call it a Harley wannabe if you like. I say a lot of the Harleys are Vulcan 1600, or 1800, or Vulcan 2000 wannabes.
And then you get the 900 which is probably the best beginner cruiser around, and also cheap AF on the used market
I have an 883 iron and it’s awesome, love it
Nothing like shitting on a segment of the bike community. Should be encouraging folks to ride, no matter the bike they choose.
The DR650 is a pretty great bike, ironically my dad has one (and to make it better, I ride a WR250R). He has done alot of tinkering to it, but coming off a KTM SXF250, he wanted better suspension. Month later he has WR450 front suspension and an oliens rear shock, and wow it soaks up rough riding very well. It's a total dad bike, but I've watched dad do massive wheelies on it, and rip it at neck breaking speeds down trails I was getting nervous to keep up with, and I'm on a 2020 WR250R, tuned, setup perfectly, and other mods. It's crazy
Great story man. Kudos to you and your dad, what a great thing to share together!
i got a 2022 drz and i’ve absolutely loved every second of modifying every little thing i could. i bought it at 19 and love it to death. DRZ deserves a little less hate
If your over 5ft tall Vulcan forward
controls makes riding easy, I’m 6’3 you expect me to ride a small Honda rebel with mid controls. No way!!!
I got a cbr500r for 3k w 11k miles as my first bike
I loved the DR650 it’s a fun ride
I got a 2019 vulcan 900 custom with 15k miles for just under 8 grand out the door a few months ago
As a first bike, it’s perfect and looks great
Is it fast? Hell no. But it’s fun to ride, handles well, and is absolutely bullet proof
Love my Honda rebel 1100 dct. I'm older now with arthritis so the dct gave me a new lease on life when it comes to riding. I like alot of other bikes but the rebel 1100 is just near and dear to my hart.
I'm a Harley guy. If I ever defect from Harley, I really like the Rebel 1100, and the smaller 650cc, Rebel might be an option also. I ride an 02' FXSTDI Soft Tail Deuce. I refuse to own a fly by wire Harley. I am older also. I can't stay in the saddle all day, like I used to. I hang onto my bike because I believe 2002 was the best of the 88ciB engine. timkin, solid crank, Delphi injection and my bike is an uncommon soft tail. 2cm bigger frame than a soft tail standard of its day. Maybe I will ad a Rebel to my barn and keep my Deuce.
The honda rebel is a joy to ride. If your thinking about adding another bike you can't go wrong there.
The last bike my dad owned (back in the 90s) was a Virago 750. I've had a SR125, GPX250R, GSX600F, and now a Fatboy. Looking at a Scrambler/Adv bike next up as I moved house and there are more off-road potentials here (and I want something lighter now). Never understood the hate for metric cruisers, they played a their own niche game. Yes, they looked like Harleys but were plastic not iron and chrome; but that is a good thing to some and a bad thing to others. No one criticized road-focussed adv bikes for not being enduros, you just accept that they offer a particular experience. Likewise, metric cruisers offered a light (literally) crusier experience, Harley/Victory/Indian offer the more heavy-weight end. Anything beyond these 2 roles is just badge snobbery, and I really don't get that. Though, to be honest I don't get why you pay x amount of £ or $ more for a shirt that has Gucci written on it over one that says Walmart....its still just a shirt and probably comes out of the same factory.
The only bikes I struggled to understand were the road rockets of the late 00s, when macho statistics over-ruled on-road (if not track) capability, especially in the 600 class. But eventually people realised the Emperor was wearing no clothes, and the class died...until the 'road sports bike' now sees its long overdue return (eg: R7, CBR650R, Aprilia 660)
The TW200 is for very old guys like me that want to move up from a Honda Trail bike without endangering their lives too much.
6 foot 300lbs of me loves my Vulcan 900. It is a good start bike for me because I fit really comfortably and has decent power for someone like me. My ONLY gripe with it the 5 speed transmission. I got it for 8k so absolute bang for buck.
I LOVE my 883. I didn't buy it for anyone but myself. I surly didn't by it for speed or handling.
If you want to pep it up without spending much ,air cleaner Vance n h short shots ,n screaming eagle race tuner , have o7 ç model , stock it was ok now ,she completely different animal , couple of hrs and a laptop ,friends with real Harley s admit it's fast for 883 , I'll take a strong block over the 12oo any day
@@jeffreystorer4966 mine is a 2005 so it's carbureted. Already have k&n air filter and Vance and Hines exhaust. It's just enough to cruise around and be enjoyable.
Why you gotta hit me right in the ethereum?
Right in the (n)ether region?
0:50 Its funny, because if 'heritage vibe' were what most Harley riders actually wanted, they'd be buying stuff like Janus or Royal Enfield because that's what pre-WWII Harley's and Indians looked like, and unless you were Quasimodo, you sat with your junk at the same height as the fuel cap and your handlebars would have been belt-level. Even the Army Harleys during WWII only had 750CC engines putting out 25hp.
But Harley Guys are fine letting Easy Rider and the Hell's Angels define "Harley Davidson" instead of real Harley-Davidson history. That's why Harley won't remake the old Hummer, which sold 32,000 bikes in the '50s with a 2hp engine, or the Aermacchi-made rebadged Italian bikes of the '60s and '70s.
The iron 883 is like the Nickelback of motorcycles. Everybody swears they hate them, but they keep selling albums🤷🏾♂️. "It's a girl's bike" but let's be real most Harley bros start on one. You have no problem finding a used one, but that also means a dealer sold it to someone at some point. The aftermarket parts availability to these bikes is so big you could arguably build one that has no Harley Davidson parts on it. So clown on it all you want but I imagine that HD is laughing all the way to the bank.
Yeah, ,, must be why they discontinued them, and everybody is so jealous of Harleys growth and profits ...
They didn't discontinue them due to sales. They couldn't meet emissions regulations in Europe. So they built the new nightster with the rev max engine and it just didn't make financial sense to keep making the iron 883. 🤷🏾♂️
Of course looks aren't everything but personally I think the Vulcan 900 Custom is one of the best looking bikes out there. I don't have one but I'd like to
7:45 Hahaha! Suzuki... Right... Here in the Philippines, motorcyclists and drivers also hate another Suzuki, the Raider R150 (150cc). About 90% of those who own one are hardcore squids who always cause trouble.
Just bought a Vulcan 900 and it's great! I love it. I get the jokes tho
I own a BMW and my dad went to prison when I was 8. Never saw him again.
Honda CBR500R is meant to be a daily commuter bike that looks good much like the Rebel 500. That is why the handlebar is higher than other sports bike. It is not meant to be the fastest. It is also more fuel efficient than the Kawasaki Z400/Ninja 400 and Yamaha R3/MT-03 despite of the CBR500R being heavier and have a higher displacement.
Wow just googled the mpg on this bike, 72mpg. My ninja 400 gets around 50. Of course the fuel efficiency is also affected by how you ride it, and with the Honda only revving to 8k rpms vs the Ninja 12k, it kinda forces you to have better mpg
I had a Vulcan EN500. Threw 40k miles on that bike. It wasn’t exciting power-wise, but it did it’s job and maintenance requirements were low. As long as you changed the oil and swapped the tires, that bike would get you there.
Add: I also threw 10k miles on a CBR500r. It was a great beginners bike. Parts were cheap, easy to maintain, had a fuel gauge, and it rode perfectly for a beginner.
I’d still recommend one for a first bike. That said, would I ever recommend anyone keep one forever? No.
I also had a Gixxer 750. 🤷🏻♂️
Add 2: my current daily is a BMW GS.
Man. You following me around? 😣
BMW’s are rockstars.
hey.... at 00:04 what is that YELLOW COLOUR bike..??
Yikes, riding a Vulcan 900 classic currently. I’m not proud of it, but when you have limited means, you do what you have to do. And no, I’m not at all defensive when someone craps on it! 😅 I do it too…
I had one... it was perfectly acceptable. TRaded it for a 1700 Vaquero....
@@seriousandy6656 Nice, I’ve looked quite a bit at the Vaquero reviews on various channels, they look quite formidable, I worry a bit about the weight difference from the 900, but I’m sure it’s balanced well…
@@ShortCircuit1987 The Vaq 1700 is balanced well but very heavy, a bit tall (for me)and the lean angles aren't great. But if you just want a bagger for 5k less than the Harley EQ, then this is the bike for you...
Don't be ashamed it's a good bike Yanmie just despises all bikes that can't go 230 mph and v twins
Be proud! I get nothing compliments on my 18 900 classic. From harley guys to car normies. It lacks on power now that I'm out of the begginer stage but still a blast to ride. I changed the front pulley and getting it Ivan tuned this month and adding exhaust next month should wake it up quite a bit.
I miss old, helpful yammie… this new yammie is rlly
My first bike is an 06’ Vulcan 500 that I got for a steal. Wife wanted my first one to be something I wouldn’t necessarily kill myself with. It’ll get up and go and handles extremely well for a cruiser. I’m looking to ride it maybe another year and then getting something more sporty with a few more ponies. As a first bike I could have certainly done worse. Asked around with some friends and such that have been riding for years even sport bikes and they all agreed when I was looking for one that it would be a great starter and have a good reliability record.
Loving the comment about the kawasaki having all the character of a bathroom extractor fan! Made my day! Truly hilarious!
Dad here with drz400s, does the things you mentioned about the dr650 guys. Guess I bought the wrong bike.
The Iron 883 has one strength. It's exactly what you call a weakness. You can buy a used one for a bent nickle. If you want to be a Harley guy but need to learn to handle the weight, an underpowered 883 isn't a terrible buy. Get it, ride it, drop it, then sell it when you are ready for a fat bob or whatever.
Cringe? Cringe is exactly what this video is.
The older Vulcan's are half decent. My Cousin has a 2000 800 I think and it Rides Pretty good. Plus He has a set of Vance and Hines Pipe's that honestly sound better than most Harley's.
I'm fairly new to the Motorbike scene and didnt know the Iron883 was hated. I saw a custom that looked particularly cool and was probably what i was going to get full licence but now im not sure.
@Yammie Noob maybe you could suggest alternatives for folks who maybe got hit with the markerting factor? ' you like the looks of X, maybe get the Y instead because of better all round stats'. Maybe that could be another video?
Get what appeals to you within reason. The 883 is a decent starter bike and was my first one. Although it’s not the easiest to turn and definitely isn’t fast, i never bought it for the speed factor. My primary draw was the classic look and vast customization ability to make it your own. I got nothing but compliments and questions about what it was and never any hate. 883 is as barebones as it gets with little to no technology/ creature comforts so bare that in mind
Word, I have a 883 and have never gotten anything but positive comments on it. Starting to think Yammie is the one who hates these bikes and not others
For a first bike and or cruiser I'd go for the suzuki intruder Vz800, very easy to ride, reliable, cheap bike with very little maintenance, found the harleys heavy and uncomfortable with awkward clunky controls and the 2 guys I know with harleys never ride them because they're broken 90% of the time, in a straight line though wouldn't say they're slow though, the torque from the 1200 feels great, but that's one of the only good things I can say about them though
Buy an Indian Scout Rogue Sixty or Bobber Sixty instead.
Get the bike that you like or you will always wish that you had.
DRZ is one of the best motorcycles ever. I got the 650S. Which I absolutely love.
I have a '21 Z650 and the engine is OK. It's like "yes, I am doing the thing. I am a motorcycle." Really not inspiring, but it's reliable and gets the job done. I like the looks of the Z650, they make some people vomit, but I like it. (It is my first bike so it's been plenty exciting).
My coworker just bought a '23 Vulcan S 650. It looks REALLY good in person. All my coworkers are AMERICAN CAPITALISTS who ride HARLEY DAVIDSONS BROTHER and they're gushing about how good that bike looks and how I'm a little wussy man for having a trash bike. Whatever.
Moral of the story, If you're trying to relax and want a stylish cruiser and aren't into the Motorcycle culture metagame, the Vulcan S is probably a pretty sweet option.
Just bought my first bike, been watching this channel for about a year and full sent on a 2016 Yamaha FZ09 when I came across one just the other day.
...I got a cbr500 😂 I love it lol
I love my TW it was originally bought for my wife but she doesn’t ride it so it’s mine now. It’s modified to my liking has a long off-road range and has taken me to mountain tops without fail. How did it make it on this list it just can’t be not the beloved tdub I demand a recount!
Whoever is having the most fun on their bike is winning.
Exactly right .
The honda cbr500r looks better than the ninja 400 though.
Yammie, have you seen the Aston Martin AMB 001? The bike looks like it’s from tron or cyberpunk.
I had a teedubb many years ago, one of my favorite memories is wheeling away from a light after being stared down by an Acura intgregra full of teenagers, reviving the cam bearings off of it ❤😂
Jokes on you yammie, im so used to getting made fun of on my vulcan 650 that my next bike is about to be a ktm 890. They will still make fun of me, but not outrun me.
I'm still mystified at who is buying these Japanese Cruisers. WHO ARE YOU?
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Just kidding, they don't exist.
Nobody anymore, they were a big thing in the '00s, and I do mean big as they were in a V-twin arms race that harley chose not to participate in haha. Bikes like the Vulcan 2000 (yes an actual 2.0L v-twin) the Yamaha roadliner/stratoliner with a 1900cc v-twin, the suzuki M109R which has nearly 130hp and has been around since 2006
If you count the Rebel 3/5/11 -00's as a cruiser, check out LifeOfBurch on youtube, he's maybe the most consistent Rebel youtuber.
Also, I own a Shadow 1100, no regrets
Also 'sup.
@@MotoDash1100 Yeah to be honest I've never heard anything bad about the Rebel unless it was from a Harley person.
6:15 what kind of bike is the right one?
Imagine being from the UK. I’m 16 on a 50cc lecmoto Diablo. Can’t get anything bigger than a 135 until I’m 17. Love hearing people complain about 250s being too slow😭
Great video, a few honorable mentions:
Honda XLs (those letters matter?)
NC700 (lazy rider)
Can-Am Spyder (thats not a motorcycle) just buy an original Mini Cooper, it’s easier to split lanes with.
Holy Christ already. Ride what you love. Love what you ride. Who gives a rats ass what anyone else thinks about it as long as it makes you happy. In the end thats all that matters.
Not the heated seat subscription😂💀
Im not into cruisers, however the 883 makes sense in europe as it is A2 Liscence legal stock, only in america it doesnt make sense
Very well done video. I'm so pleased to learn there are no Triumphs on your hate list. That's my bike; the 2018 Speedmaster, 1200, 6 sp., gets all the attention in a parking lot of bikes. :)
Well, he is a Triumph simp
I ride a '77 BMW R100RS with over 250000mi. I have ridden the Alaska highway several times and many more places than I can remember. Your characterization on BMW riders is totally untrue from my experience but admittedly I don't travel among others often preferring the road and the scenery to talking.
I live in SEA part of the world. Here, we got a cruiser bike named SM V16 (for some reason it has alot of other names such as WM moto v16, lyfan lucan(?)) its my first ever cruiser bike at 250cc, its the bike that gets me into riding motorcycles esp cruiser types. You might wanna check this one out yammie, i know its extremely low end compared to all the bikes you have reviewed so far. But imho, it is definitely a good choice for newbie riders to see if they really do like cruiser type bikes and super easy to ride. Like. Really easy.
I am getting a TW in the spring.. My main reason? I love the way it looks.
Ain't NOBODY like ol Nooby Yam!!
I was looking at the tw as a first bike after I got my class m, then my car shit the bed. Now all I'm looking at is my bank account to make sure my car loan payment has already come out before buying gas & food 😡
My friends first bike was and still is the Vulcan 900 custom...
What’s your opinion on the Harley Davidson Softail Standard?
I bought an '06 DRZS new and sold it last year. I've owned numerous bikes along side it but eventually I replaced it with a '21 690E. From a power-to-weight perspective, the 690 replaces like 9 motorcycles and I am super happy with it. I can't relate to what the DRZ crowd degenerated to. When I see a new DRZ on the road, I look at it like a classic car "wow, they still make that thing." Tired of reading posts like "what's the best gearing?" The $700 ACT gearset, not a final-drive sproket combo ya broke bastard. Or a dirtbike made in an SM variant with a confused owner rocking knobbies on 17s... I can't do it.
the T Dub looks like it'll last longer than the Humanity.
Good video Pappa Yams.
isn't the HD iron 883 the only HD left that sounds like a HD?
Fact
My most hated bike was one a girlfriend rode. Do you remember the Honda Matic? The bike was made famous by a certain recording artist, Who Loved purple.
Yammie just said edgelord!!! Lmfao what have you guys done to him lol 😂
Funny more than a few big displacement Harley riders have trouble keeping up with a good rider on on an 883 Sportster on anything but an interstate highway. Slow bike + fast rider is better than a slow rider on a slightly faster bike.
Pretender bikes from yester year from Japan are a little sad yet the Chinese knock offs is just wrong.
The BMW R9Ts are not expensive, have a bit of character and the performance is much better than most expect.
Best background music yet
I still have my Vulcan but it's an '04 800 Classic. I don't really ride it much since I bought an Indian Chief Vintage and I honestly have no idea what to do with it. Do I sell it? For a '04 I probably won't get much for it. Keep it? Idk I hardly ride it much anymore as it is so I have no idea what to do with it
Yammie good you review a GILERA runner sp50
Am I the only one not squiding on a gixer 600?
My '99 883 is in the same category as a Triumph twin, the real clown bikes that make me laugh are the big baggers with their 36" front wheels & $3,000. paint jobs.
People don't buy metric cruisers because they're cheap. People don't want to spend $20,000 for a Harley-Davidson when they can buy just as good a bike for a fraction of the cost. It doesn't make them cheap, it makes them smart. I'd rather own BOTH a metric cruiser and something like an MT07 rather than one overpriced Harley-Davidson any day of the week, twice on Tuesday.
Ive said it once and ill say it again. These crotch rockets are race bikes with lights. However, the street is just a race track with lights!!
Now I'm worried. Is there hate for my Honda VTX 1800?
Yamaha bolt has been a blast riding.
Did not know that the TW was so "disliked" there. Because here in Japan (at the time) it was actually quite an easy to ride inexpensive popular base motorcycle for custom bikes too, cheers
It's not disliked it's just nothing fancy. It shouldn't be on this list (but neither should most of the bikes... Except the HD 883 and the CBR500).
I have a ninja 636 and love it but i want a daily and was thinkin a vulcan 650 just cuz gas mileage and to put bags on it. Thought it has potential being that i dont care for the vtwin sound. Their cheep, reliable and a quick exhaust change will do it with some bags. Or so i thought
My Vulcan 500 is fast cheap and reliable. When I want to have fun I get on my 99 gasgas ec250
You're laughing at the Vulcan 900, but that's EXACTLY the direction that Harley-Davidson is headed.
We don't like harleys because they're terrible yet they think they're premium and charge Triumph prises for terrible bikes
The 883 is a Hardley Worthitson.
Guy's STOP HATING ON CARB'S lol. There are way to many misconception's about Carburetor's that just aren't true. You don't need to basically rebuild Them every Season. They do Preform just as well as EFI, especially in Naturally Aspirated application's. Actually Carb's can typically make more Power than an EFI set up. And the Emission's benefit's of EFI aren't even really noticable...
My first bike was an Iron 883. Shit suspension, shit brakes, dog of an engine, rode like a tractor. It was awesome and I rode its tits off as often as I could. And if the cement salesman with the farkled out Ultra Glide called it a girl's bike, I just had to start it. It was louder than his. But then again, that was the problem. It was loud enough to be a dad magnet.
I feel like the z900rs’ fake cooling fins should get an honorable mention.