7 Motorcycles That Drive Harley Haters Crazy
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The evolution of Harley has produced some interesting motorcycles that have drawn praise and hate alike. Let's look at the motorcycles that driver Harley Haters and Purists nuts.
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Hate the most about Harleys is the price.
This is at the top of all lists and you cannot afford a new one or even a used one is because of the $$$$$$ and many riders will look somewhere else for another make where they save from 1/2 to almost 3/4 on a purchase.
And the fact that Harleys are SLLLLOOOWWWWW, loud, heavy, ugly AF and you pretty much look like a tool riding them.
It will happen similar situation with the Tatra car when the Volkswagen Beetle is a knock off of a Tatra Model 97, but yet the CF-Moto V-Rod knockoff will be loved by Harley haters.
Parts prices in the UK. The parts are made everywhere from Japan for the discs to Taiwan for the chrome plating that is not very good.
@@theodavies8754 Even for parts that are made in China.
Been riding since 1974. As a die-hard biker, i really don't give a shit what you ride. You do you. Ride safe, y'all!
Damn good point, well stated. Peace, and safe riding to you always.
I ride a Harley and even I can't stand the snobby Harley attitude that a lot of owners have.
I agree. I’ve been riding 30 years. Bought my first Harley 2 years ago after lots of sports and sport touring bikes. All these Harley guys talking shit can’t even make a u turn on their bikes or come to a stop without waddling like a duck.
Understood. Completely.
Amen to that bro!
We had a saying, "harley riders are so stuck up they won't even wave at each other."
Absolutely
No bike is worth hating. Never owned a Harley, mostly because I could buy literally any style of any other bike, ride it for a couple years, insurance, and full riding gear, buy accessories I want and still have money left over over the cost of a Harley today.
Who the hell has enough time on energy to hate an inanimate object?..
Unfortunately Chief it’s real and definitely ridiculous.
Same with a lot of truckers, I am a tanker driver and see and hear all day people belittling others because the truck they drive.
@@frankcastle1183 if you have gratitude for what you have, belittling others seems a bit petty, IMHO?
@@frankcastle1183If that tanker isn't HazMat, I look down on you.😂
How about not see the point or appreciate them? The New Sportster S is more like the "SON OF V-Rod" than Sportster from the EVO era. Not very versatile... yet. More Sports Bike than from the Sportster Family. People love them. The LiveWire... Electric anything is a turnoff to me. Very limiting. Some people love them. The new bike that I thought was SPOT ON was the PAN AMERICA. It hit BMW right where it hurt. So those coming off the Africa Twin or a Tiger and want to upgrade now have two choices and one of those choices is SUPERIOR.
Don’t think folks hate the bikes. It’s the culture/attitude of the owners/followers that rubs people the wrong way.
It's like Rick & Morty: I love the show but the fans... they're the worst.
Bingo
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Yeah, you betcha. I can feel your juxtaposition in the love in your comment. Maybe you’re seeing through your HonYamKawSu glasses, or maybe you’re looking real hard to find a reason to do your own hatin’.
@@MrDoyle07I have a good reason to hate harleys
The bikes are mechanical junk
And the riders are conceited Assholes
I started riding on two wheels 56 years ago
Average hd rider rides 300-350 miles a year
Pathetic
I’ve ridden twice that in one day
Every ride with a harley in the pack, we made sure to have a support truck
Every time it was the harley that got dragged home broken!
I don’t hate any bike. I love them all.
Bro, get over yourself. Harleys, Hondas, Yamaha, BMW's or whatever are just TWO WHEELS with an Engine. Motorcycles are meant for fun. Enjoy it. Ride what you can AFFORD and don't worry about what other people ride!!
He didn't hate on anything.
There are real harley snobs out there that die on these hills.
Last year he was dead set on getting the Indian Elite. He is a fan boi.
What's more important, what I ride, or what YOU ride? That question will shut up a few of the morons.
I rode Japanese bikes my whole life. Owning a Harley-Davidson was way unattainable for me. And there are, ALOT of Harley deuschbags out there. I have a old harley now, first one, but I hate being considered an elitist because of what I now drive. I refuse to buy shit from the dealership, do almost all my own work on my bike, don't buy and wear Harley-Davidson everything. Shit I also have and ride a 1981yamaha xs650, and a kawasaki vulcan. Anyways your right though, ride what you can afford, enjoy it, and just respect the next man fir being out there playing frogger with car traffic.
Vtx 1800 twice as fun as any Harley at around 3000 to 5000. Fast fun. And can cruse anywhere and way more reliable I own one cause Harley’s are way to expensive!
Fact.
Nobody has ever said they hate Harley’s except for Harley riders. Nobody has said sportster are girls bikes Except for Harley riders. Seems that a lot of Harley riders are very insecure.
Yeah its like firebird owners- they eat each other for lunch. Fukkit sticking to Triumph Bonnies
Good point
It's all to complicated now, it was easy when you had a Sporster, a Superglide and an Electra Glide, those were the days !
V-Rod was one of their greatest motorcycles and yep Harley Riders never accepted it as part of their family
That would make me like it more. Decent bike I thought. Sort of dyna sized. I seem to recall the fork being raked out a little too much. I’d get one if it came up for cheap.
I rode my father in laws V-Rod. Very good feel. One of the most balanced bikes I have ridden.
Two wheels and a motor, I don’t care what it is. Vespa, Honda, Husky, Zundap, Harley, Guzzi.
Don’t matter get on it and ride!
Would you ride a Chinese knockoff of a Harley-Davidson?
@@Embargoman wish I could show you a picture of my Chinese copy of Honda 100cc -Pagsta- Captain America Chopper.
@@Ronald-TH-cam Well I could imagine that, to say Harley-Davidson is facing trouble right now with China, CF-Moto is working with Daimler with a knockoff of a V-Rod.
@@williamforbes5826 plus I used to have a Jawa CZ 250.
@@williamforbes5826 sounds good to me.
I think you're off base on the VRod. Harley haters actually like the bike. It's everything that Harley has never been up till that point. Fast, high tech, great handling, high revving and liquid cooled. The ones that hated the VRod the most, were the Harley purists.
Tend to agree, the one harley I would add to the stable.
The bike was meant for younger riders but they're all broke
Yup. I think they’re an awesome ride. However, my riding stile is touring. The VRod isn’t a great long distance, multi day rider.
I always think of Randy Savage. Hey Brother! And of course South Park just nailed it😂🤣
I'm surprised Buell wasn't mentioned! As a Buell XB12SCG owner, I get hate all the time with people saying I couldn't afford a Harley badge so bought a renamed Harley everywhere I take it
Buell's Engineering was Superior to Harley. Going to a Rotax Engine was the final straw for HD. Dealers tended to place Buells in the back corner next to the restrooms thus they did not sell. Can you imagine Harley with the M8 and Revolution Engines with Buell innovations today? HD was very dirty when they sacked Eric.
@@exexpat11that your opinion
Never heard that before.
@@scottbowles9574 Buell started out as making kits for Sportsters then expanding into making a bike using the Sportster as a base in the Mid 80's.
1. Underslung exhausts
Erik Buell pondered on why riders should put up with side-mounted exhausts that were non-aerodynamic, spoiled the line of the bike and made the rider hot. His answer: an exhaust mounted centrally under the bike.
2. Fuel in frame
Erik’s passion for racing made him question why a race bike had to handle like a pig when the fuel level dropped. Using a bike’s aluminum beam frame as the fuel tank means the weight of the fuel remains low, so the bike handles well no matter how much fuel is onboard.
3. Mass Centralization
Years before Honda spouted mass centralization as MotoGP magic, Erik Buell was building it into his bikes. It was part of a three-pronged attack to achieve handling nirvana: moving components nearer to the centre of mass, achieving the lowest unsprung weight possible and making a frame torsionally rigid.
4. Zero Torsional Load (ZTL) Braking
A huge single rim-mounted disc and reverse mounted caliper that performed as good as a normal two-disc set up but with less unsprung weight. Arguments still rage on the increased gyroscopic effect.
5. Engine Oil in Swingarm
Similar to fuel-in-frame concept and it increases cooling action too.
100% correct
I do not ride to please others nor make others happy I ride because I enjoy riding, could care less what you think/feel about my choice.
😮😮😮
So what do you ride?
So what do you ride?
@@thollingsworth4910 1300 VTX, 1600 Roadstar silverado, had an American Ironhorse a year ago.
I am proud of my 77 XLH Sportster and my 75 Electa Glide, both AMF machines which I bought new back then. Other than the normal routine servicing and adjustments I've never had to put a spanner near the engines and no oil leaks. Proud to have helped HD survive in my small way. Keep the videos coming. I like all bikes, just some better than others.
The Live Wire hands down …. MC blew a billion dollars on that POS
Yep, and it's garbage compared to other offerings in the catagory, if I'm going electric give me a energica.
I have had all kinds of motorcycles in my life. I own a yamaha road star and a harley road king right now. I loved them all and had lots of enjoyment from them all. Thinking about picking up a duel sport next. Would like to do a little adventure riding before I get to old. Been awhile since I have rode off road. Ride what makes you happy people. Peace✌️
I also ride a roadstar 03 and love it 21 years old and still runs as good as the day I bought it off the show room floor. Did some customization to it.
I have a roadstar Yamaha 2007 ❤
I hate that harley riders dont say wasup on the road, gimme a break
I ride Harley’s and all give the wave to every biker 2 and 3 wheels
@@budredden818 😊
@@budredden818 hey man, so why is it that most dont? Asking for a friend
I greet everyone on two wheels, especially the justeat uber moped delivery nobs, it confuses them and I get a kick out of it.
@@budredden818 Depends on your location.
That's very common throughout "flyover country" but much lesser so in bigger cities along the coasts.
I owners two Vrods and they rocked absolutely loved it! Haha Owned a 883 Iron it was cool, the same time I owned the VRods😎
I will stick to my 93 ultra classic 🇨🇦
The Sturgis first came out with an 80 cubic inch Shovelhead. I bought one brand new in CA and rode it to MD.
Was working at Fletcher's H-D when the Sturgis came out. Owner wouldn't let me buy a WG.
I asked him why,"Because if anyone can break one you can."
Loved the rear belt, didn't care much for the front belt. Shucked two until I figured out to vent the primary cover. The MOCO never did figure it out.
I was wondering if anyone else caught that
Interesting video! I own a Road King and a BMW K1200rs. I like most bikes. I rode Kawasakis and Yamahas last century. First HD I bought was a 2006 Nightrod with mid controls. I loved it, but I ground the pegs constantly. More aspiring newbies wanting HDs should consider an 883 since it doesn't weigh 800 lbs. Keep riding, keep videoing. 👊
Thanks brother
When I first started riding 35 years ago, I started with an HD. I rode for about 5 years thinking only wimps rode other brands. Then a buddy let me ride his BMW. Wow! Years later, I’ve switched exclusively to BMW, Ducati, Triumph. However, anything anybody rides with 2wheels is awesome including HDs
I don't hate HDs. I looked at their bikes and spoke with some HD owners. While I was looking, the only bike that spoke to me was the Ducati XDiavel.
I want to k ow what that bike said because it doesn't appeal to me at all. But if you like it that's fine with me.
@@josephmetiva3575 figure of speech... I just like the aesthetics better than the HDs.
I bought a 883 as well and put a 1250 kit on it and loved the way it rode after that .
Good video to watch at 4am, with mild insomnia. I have a 03 wide glide, with the twin cam 88,@ 1450cc. Not the newest or fastest, but for me it's all that. My speed days are over,I just like to ride the back roads, look like a troublemaker, warrented lol, and not get killed on the road. Newer engines= more horsepower &speed. Still not in my budget. I paid $3800, for mine, and that was a good entry level price that made it a reality to own a bike I thought I'd never afford. Anyways, good video,nice gun collection, your probably a good American. So am I. Have a good day bro.
Thanks man
Great Video. I totally agree about the bags. When I bought my Fat Boy, back in 2007, the first thing I did was put a set of Harley's Leather Bags on! Man, I used to stuff those babies, and then some! Gotta have bags!
I love all makes and models of bikes...
I ride an 09 Buell XB12XP and am a Harley hater because of what they did to Buell. I see the value in thier machines but i just can't get over thier business model.
The new Buell super cruiser is really cool
BINGO!
Never understood the hate on the 883. It's pretty much the springboard to Harley entry. A truly iconic bike that is infinitely moddable.
To be honest the 883 is what you buy your girlfriend or wife that wants to ride her own bike
@@greggarrot8132 Yeah but I'd also never recommend anything Harley currently has as a beginner bike either. They kind of abandoned the starters. The dealership here sells Royal Enfield probably to fill that gap of cheap starter.
I love my Sportster 883 for 25 years. I have never felt the need to have anything bigger and the only bike I have that weighs 800 lb is my Euro sidecar tourist outfit.
@@greggarrot8132 Why? I would never put anybody I loved on a 550lb bike to learn on. Maybe as a second bike.
I loved my 2000 ,883. Got a good price on it. Like new , 1150 miles. Rode it to over 50 k. Had 2 crashes and a blast. Easy to customize. Best bike I ever had.
I've been riding for 51yrs this years, Harley's since '79, and the first time I rode an 883, it was so slow, I almost had to get off and push the damned thing to avoid getting hit by traffic.
Iron 883 was my very first bike. Never had been on a bike before that one. Got it brand new out of the dealer.. rode it 400 miles and knew I had to trade it in 😂
So I did! It did its job giving me confidence to ride so it’s a solid choice for new riders that want to start out on a Harley.
Well what was your second bike?
@@loganurquhart11 went to a Softail Slim. I loved that bike! Then a RKS-almost perfection, and now a 2024 RG-better!
The Pan America with the RedMax motor has so many mechanical and electrical issues it has been heavily discounted in order to move them off the sales floor and of course that affects the value of used motorcycles as well.
True with the 2021-2022. Many issues now resolved. I had a 2023 and own a 2024. RevMax motor is a beast and not part of the initial issues.
I've owned many different brands and types of bikes over the years.
All used and bargain basement priced.
My first big twin harley was a 1978 flh shriner.
The only original parts are the tanks, frame, engine, and transmission.
It's been through many mods over the years. ( and I will keep it until my last breath of life)
My other two bikes are Harley-Davidsons, 1991 Springer Softtail, and a 1992 Electra Glide Ultra Classic.
I like bikes that can be maintained with basic hand tools 🔧 and you don't need a computer degree to figure out what is wrong with it.
The EVOS are extremely reliable, and even my AMF shovelhead is very reliable.
I'm not into big hp and going fast anymore, I just enjoy getting out and enjoying back country roads and enjoying life. (61 years old)
Like a good woman, take care of them and respect them, and they won't let you down.
Ignore them and don't give them the attention they need, and you'll learn the meaning of (hell hath no fury like a woman scorned) hahaha
Seriously though, I have an appreciation for most of my motorcycles, especially classic and antique bikes from every part of the world.
The V-Rod was just plain weird. 😢
The Porsche Harley Davidson. Big, tube frame, finless engine. It was as if HR Giger designed a Cruiser.
It may have been weird but it was a great motorcycle!
It was for the tide pod generation but they're too broke to afford it.
It’s interesting that bikes that people like overseas and you often see them customised and appreciated like the V-Rod and street models weren’t popular in North America but massively popular in Australia, Europe, Asia and even the Middle East where baggers aren’t as popular because people choose different types of bikes for long distance riding
It's not what you ride it's that you ride.
The first three years of the v-rod was the best, it had a narrow back wheel and was bomb in the mountains.
Hi Hegshot Rides, another great episode 🔥Hope you had a great July 4th, lots of Harley Haters yesterday, when I was cruising on my RoadGlide..mostly cars…3 lanes and they decided to tailgate me, oh well. Lastly, I can also say from a rider that started riding in 1988 on a Yamaha YSR 50, to a 92 CBR, 02 Gixxer,98 R1, 07 Hayabusa, 2012 Sportster, 2016 Street Glide and now my 2020 RoadGlide, the best and only motorcycle I will saddle up❤sadly most riders will never know, the way a Harley Davidson RoadGlide makes you feel..Ride Hard💪🏼, Be Blessed 🙏🏽, Aloha, Kenneth 🤙🏽
Thanks man
The RUB-GLIDE 💰 not into a love seat on tires.
I love the looks of the Iron 883.
A Sportster is a Sportster is a Sportster... (Chinese voice - ALL LOOK SAME!) Unless it is a Roadster then you have a totally different animal. (Just kidding. Love my Roadster.)
My first Harley was 85 Sportster 1200kitted...GREAT BIKE..NOW riding a DYNA SUPERGLIDE 1450...EVEN GREATER BIKE.. about to pass it on to my Son...and stepping down to a Royal Enfield gt 650...as im getting older and looking for something LIGHTER and LESS powerful...been riding now for nearly 50years and EVERY BIKE has its JOY....SO.. Enjoy the ride as life is far too short...😊
I almost got a V-Rod until I read reviews of the riding position being so forward that it was uncomfortable.
I’ve recently discovered that Harley might actually suit me better than Indian, but i can’t justify their price tags. While they may be 20 to 30k in the US in Norway they’re 25k to 70k.
One thing i wish both of them would do as well is to make some of their touring and bagger bikes into shaft drive. So for now i’ll stick with my 98 Intruder 1500 which is one hell of a underrated beast.
I seriously think that the people that hate harleys the most are actual harley owners. God forbid you ride a sporster or a V rod or a softail standard. I heard more harley bash those models more than anyone.
I love my Harley and many other bikes, I keep my comments to my self about bikes that don't suit me. But it's not uncommon to hear non harley riders making comments about harley prices, low hp, slow, grampa bike, harley tax, weight, etc. I just tell them to move on. I choose not to point out their excessive plastic.
I considered Indian motorcycles, but after the 5 Harley-Davidsons that I’ve had, my most recent the 2022 Street Bob 114. I have to admit, coming off of a 2013 ElectraGlide it was a drastic change in comfort, but made up for In agility and power. I haven’t owned a four wheeler in quite a while, sometimes wishing to have a heater in the cooler months, or an air conditioner in these Texas summers, but given the choice to ride my scooter or a four wheeler,,, I will always lean towards the scooter. Going on 73 years old, this 5th Harley is just keeping me busy until I can come up with the funds to return to a touring scooter, # 6 !!!!
Ride a Harley,but have had and enjoyed number of machines and makes.99 Zrx 1100 my favorite.The "Look at Me" heir alot of Harley riders have is at times over the Top. Kinda like the Rich kid in School with the Jordans poking fun at your Pro Keds. Just Ride and enjoy,and stay safe while doing it.
As seen in my picture this was my favorite Harley a 2005 V Rod with Road Glide Faring and Bags. Rode it from Florida to Sturgis and back in 2010. It was a great trip. My last motorcycle was a 2004 Honda VTX 1300C with a sidecar. Loved it too but my age got the best of me.
When I went to get my first Harley, back in mid 2012, I was looking at the 883 Iron. Ended up buying the last 2011 Nightster they had in the showroom. Got it for the same price as the 2012 883 Iron. I still love the Evo Sportster. Now I am chopping a 1991 Sportster 883 Deluxe that was already punched out to 1200. I also have a 1997 Yamaha Vmax.
My preference has always been dirt bikes. I totally loved my Yamaha IT125. I'd love seeing HD come out with dirt bikes.
I ride an Iron 883. Modded it out a little bit but for me, it’s the perfect bike. Not going for killer speed and numbers, im going for reliability and fun. I get both in spades
The biggest HD haters are the HD riders. Show up on anything smaller than a huge bag and you’ll here “ I see your wife let you ride her bike “
Hell even on market everyone writes “ selling for my sister, or grandma “
The V-Rod actually has the VT-1000 cc Honda engine, that's why it has lots of horsepower.
I enjoy all motorcycles and am glad that there are many choices and options. As far as Harley’s go, I have owned six, and currently own a near classic Electra Glide which I have owned since 2002 and will never sell. I am also rebuilding a 2005 Road King. In addition, I own and mostly ride a Honda Goldwing GL-1800. I will say that no manufacturer can match the quality and color choices of Harley paints. However, it sadly seems like Harley is pricing themselves out of the market and I can’t justify buying a new one ever again.
Happy trails, Cowpoke
I read too much into the title and thought it was harley bros crankin the hog and hating on my scoot! Lol
Never been better part of a community of all around riders who wave regardless of my little turtle!
As a sport bike rider the only Harleys that appeal to me are the low rider s, sportster S/pan am, fat bob, and the cvo models. It's a fine brand but nobody hates harley just the price
The Harley FXSTC was the best thing they made recently.👍
Fortunately most of us that ride Harleys honestly could not possibly care any less what folks think about our bikes.
My first harley was a v-rod muscle & I love this bike, great setup love the forward controls. People say you can't turn this bike....I can, no problems plus I have a 260 rear. I've ridden a lot of harleys & I can say it's the only harley I'll ever ride.
You summed it up quite well. Personally love the Harley and have had one for over 20 years.
A Electra glide with the King of the road package in the 1970s weighed 732 lb with a half a tank of gas now they weigh 900 plus pounds
I got a 2008 Harley sportster 883 low edition for 4,200 total, it had 14k miles, has the classic Harley logo on the tank, I’ve put over 2k miles on it in 3-4 months, I ride when I want, not when the weather permits. This is my 7th bike, 4 different brands, thousands of miles, all bike is a bike, it’s what you make it that matters to you, nobody else
2018 anniversary edition Street Glide Special has the BEST eagle graphic ever!!
My Triumph Sprint ST is my touring bike. 120hp and full luggage. My Harleys are not what I'd use to tour. Not enough power.
Can’t say I actually hated any Harleys! Or anything on 2 wheels. Have had Hondas, Kawasaki’s , a Norton, and Harleys. They all had me in the wind. Currently on a Softail Breakout with the 117, which I downsized from a Street Glide Special 114. BTW, that scooter you like is the Harley Eagle Eye. It’s a Street Glide Special. Only 900 made world wide. My youngest son has one!
The FXB Sturgis bikes did not have an Evolution motor, the original Sturgis was made 1981-82 and had a Shovelhead. The Evolution didn't come out until 1984. It seems like you are confusing the FXB with the FXR and later Dyna.
I do not like the Fourhead Fat Boy. They've only blacked them out for the 30th anniversary. I cannot get over the square headlamp bezel and the single wing badge.
I dont care what everyone says about others riders. I want a video on the kool armor behind u!!
I love my HD Softail 105 anniversary, I am a short guy 5-8, so it fits me perfect
If Harley Davidson continues down the business plan they are currently on we won't have to worry about it. They will be out of business and used bikes will be the only thing left. In 20 years Harley will be an old forgotten Motorcycle company. Most of the riders will also be old and forgotten.
Indian will be the only American brand of motorcycles left and the Chinese will put Harley-Davidson out of business for selling better quality replicas.
People often forget that Harley sold a 250 in the 60's.
Can't be bothered with hd's anymore, had a 128 '18 rks that I built up from new, got bored with it. Sold it and bought a good second hand ZRX1200R. Life is good again.
So, Harley riders hate certain (well, turns out A LOT of) Harley models? I’m confused😬
I genuinely don’t think non-Harley riders care more or less about certain HD models, let alone “hate” certain models. I’m guessing a Harley is a Harley to most folks🤷♂️
I personally quite like Harleys, they just don’t really suit my use for the most part, except maybe the Pan American.
4:16 one of my brothers first bike was a 2019 iron 883, he paid about 8400 or 8500 for it came with a passenger pillion and back rest, his wife hated getting on the back of that bike she didnt feel safe and he did look big on it but he got it to learn to ride and get more comfortable after he got his endorsement. After 6 months he traded in the 19 iron for a 23 Street Glide about 2 weeks after I traded in my 09 softail for a 24 Street Glide.
I think the main reason that many Harley riders call the iron 883 a girls bike is because of its small size, I test rode my brothers iron that i mentioned above and found it to be small and uncomfortable I'm 6'3 the bike had mid controls and the seating position was more aggressive than i was used to. My wife had sat on one in the showroom a few weeks ago because shes deciding whether she wants to ride or stay on the back of my bike and it was perfect size for her being 5'8 she felt comfortable on the bike plus its light weight and easily maneuverable, she also looked at a street 500 and a Sportster S. Hell even my softail is sometimes called a girls bike for the same reason as the iron, its small size.
11:25 I can definitely attest to that, I get so much flack for liking and buying the 24 Street Glide by people that have an 06-14 Street Glide mainly.
Holy hell!!!😮 One thousand a month on a motorcycle is insane. I'm sure you're figuring that payment with minium down and 25% interest rate but that's crazy.
239 a month on my 2021 Road Glide Special certified pre-owned with extended warranty. I did put a good bit down though.😊
You didn't mention the Harley Davidson Topper. A motor scooter built 1960-65. I think a lot of folks would hate them if they actually knew about them or if Harley brought them back even in a modern-day format. What I hate the most about HD is the premium price when the features are not truly 'premium' compared with say BMW, Triumph and Ducati (with 1 exception, the Pan America). For example, even the 2024 'premium' CVOs still don't have electronic adjustable suspension, truly premium brands have done so for over 10 years. The Pan America, for example, you don't have to adjust preload whether you are riding solo, 2-up, with or without all the gear - the bike does it all for you, automatically.
A lot of the V-Rod, and the Dyna, lives on today in the RevMax Nightsterand Sportster S. As a Night Rod fan, I want a Nightster in black, with the little fairing!
All bikes are great . I cannot appreciate intolerance . 😊
No one cares enough to hate these or any Harley. They’re everywhere and not special. I didn’t even watch the video before typing this because the premise is silly. I had a modern Harley until recently. Very well made and gave me no trouble but if I happened to ride it the same day as I rode my 2005 GS it was a pretty stark letdown. My main Harley riding thought is usually hoping nothing unexpectedly gets in front of me. Fun to get on it once in a while for a change.
I've been riding since the late 60's. As long as they ride and not doing anything stupid around me I don't care what they ride. To each his own.
The CVO is not a bike for everyone. It is a premium motorcycle, without a doubt.
The only premium about a CVO is the price,...the gismo's and gadgets are just show
If its got two wheels its good with me. Had a used 100k vrod and it never failed me for the next 37k. Think was bullet proof.
My wife is interested in riding. I’m thinking of getting her an Iron 883 for her first bike.
Willie G designed the FX in 71. In 1980 the FXB Sturgis was out to the market, it was just an FX with a belt primary and belt fianl drive. It's a sought-after bike, but really, what saved HD was the buyback in 81. The FXR was introduced in 82. The R indicated the rubbermount motor. The Sturgis only ran a few years and was replaced by the FXSB in 1983.
I worked at a Harley dealership. The most hated Harley Davidson was the 1977 XLCR. I hated it too. To be honest, I hate all the newer Harleys since 1987. After that, they all blow.
I don't hate the bikes. I hate the elitist attitudes that some bikers have. It shouldn't matter what you ride, so long as you ride safe and enjoy the ride.
Sportglide, number 1 bike for me , Harley have put out. Love my sportglide
Harley owners seem to hate on every other brand. Riders on every other brand don't care about enough about Harleys hate them.
I liked the show where owners bet their bikes at the drag strip. Brand new V Rod awarded to a guy with a 1981 Suzuki GS1100. A standard do it all motorcycle introduced in 1980 as i recall but quicker and faster than a V Rod and with normal ergonomics.
When I was young I liked the little rice rockets and we made fun of Harley's but as I got older I moved to the cruiser style I want to enjoy the ride and fast is ok at times but going slow and taking it easy is where I enjoy myself the most
The 883 is one good looking bike. Lacks in comfort and power, but great first bike.
And there it is at 7:29 ish. "If it gets a girl, or a guy into riding and buying Harley Davidson" now your masters will pat you on the head and tell you how good a boy you are.
I ride a 2019 street bob blackout special,,,love it.
The biggest problem with Harley-Davidson is that as an American, they should be our version of honda. Instead, they keep making fewer bike for fewer riders. Yes the Pan America is good, but eric buell was doing the same thing with the Ulysses starting almost 20 years ago. Harley-Davidson should have scooters and sports bike in their company catalog, but they dont. They dont even make a decent entry-level motorcycle anymore. They company is far from its roots, you think the company's founders would ride a new cvo or a hayabusa? My money is on the hayabusa.
With the economy is nowadays all of our money is going to China for buying replicas of better quality to say CF-Moto will outsell Harley-Davidson for a matter of fact Harley-Davidson will help put the USA into the number 2 economy in the world and put the Chinese economy to be the number 1 economy in the world, with these prices of their bikes Harley-Davidson will help lead China to be number 1 in the world’s largest economy and the USA into number 2.
My older brother had a 1973 AMF Sprint. A great Harley 350
I think they should make thes small 350s again
As for me, I don't hate Harleys; my street-legals have been Kawasakis. KZ700, and a Voyager XII. Water cooled, shaft drive, inline four-cylinder and enough creature comforts to suit me. Harleys are not for everybody; if they were, everybody would be riding them, which would cause them to lose their specialty. Ride what your gut tells you.