The Politics of Dune Explained In FIVE Minutes
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It’s also of note that this whole transfer of who controls Dune was a play from the Emperor to weaken BOTH houses. The Baron had to spend considerable funds and lives to retake the planet.
Yup! That's why I can't wait for part 2 of Dune. I want to see the Baron quake in his suspensors before the emperor's humble court noble
Yup, there are three basic types of power in this universe. Economic, military and political. The Atreides had a lot of political and military power, the Harkonnens had a lot of economic power. The Emporer was able to get the Harkonnens to wipe out the Atreides (almost), in a way that diminished most of their economic power.
@@chrisdoe2659 two birds with one stone
Whoa.. that just blew my mind. REALLY puts the movie into another perspective and adds such depth to the political landscape.
@@chrisdoe2659 Plans within plans ...
I always found it interesting that there weren't non-guild space travelers. Interstellar travel is still possible without Navigators, but there's a 10% chance the ship will be lost in every trip. That's certainly a massive risk but human greed has never been stopped by massive risk. There are periods in human history when almost half of mercantile and exploratory ships were lost. But the profit from such undertakings was so great that people were willing to take that risk.
I always assumed the guild muscled out any real competition that even considered getting around the ban
Noone who would have the resources has the need for it. Because the Guild is good at keeping everyone else comfortable with the Guild.
The only party that could have both the means and the cause would be Ix, perhaps. And I am not sure about their motivation...
Bene Tleilax has the obvious motivation, but they probably don't have the technical capability to make a ship that can "jump".
@@Aeolusdallas ...leaving only the sole traders, smugglers and privateers to pick up the crumbs?
@@misterjei well we know there are smugglers at the very least
Well there are still smugglers I assume, since they are mentioned in the series occassionally, I gotta assume they aren't guild affliated.
Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos all fight over an entire planet of Cocaine. Got it.
Ass poop. Got it.
lol
The entire video summarized in one simple sentence. I love it.
And Amber Heard with Elon Musk's frozen embryos is the beginning of bene gesserit
More like Oil-Cocaine, to be more accurate
I’m not a movie buff and I don’t know a lot about movies as I’m just a casual viewer, but I can say, this movie is a huge breath of fresh air! I would definitely sit for 2 hrs 30 mins again for Dune
I just went and saw it again and I don't really like movies but my sibling does so we went again to a cheeper laid back theater.
@@wonderstuck-gg For and a WHOLE a lot of people, This WHOLE movie did justice to the original novel and story ENTIRELY and captured a lot of the visuals of the book through pure cinematic aesthetics and creativity as it’s fantastic and phenomenal movie and one of the greatest films of the 21th century already! MASTERPIECE of a movie here!
As I said, The new Dune movie is a MASTERPIECE!!! It’s fantastic and phenomenal movie and one of the greatest films of the 21th century already! MASTERPIECE of a movie here!
@@wonderstuck-gg sibling? 🤔 we say brother and sister here on earth 👽
Yup 😊
Another thing that should be mentioned about spice is that it is literally what makes space travel possible for the Empire. The navigators from the Spacing Guild are heavily mutated humans that are have the ability to set courses to other planets and see the potential hazards for the voyage. They’ve gotten all of this power and mutations from spice. Without the flow of spice, there would be no traveling from planet to planet.
dune is all about space crack
It would actually… in theory.
I don’t know if the holtzmann engines run on spice, need spice to function or if only a navigator can operate them, but assuming the navigator only points the way, you could technically just yolo it and run in blind without guidance accepting the fact you most probably won’t make it to the finish line.
@@Ballin4VengeanceOnly the Navigators need spice to see a safe page, the engines are all tech. In the prequel novels they did that during the AI war to win, use Holtzman engines in a blind jump. The attrition rate was about 10%per jump.
Reminds me of the movie fantastic planet
You definitely commented that before watching the video
I read the first three books but these videos help me fill in gaps of stuff I was a confused about. I need to reread the books again. I am watching Dune today in IMAX here in Bangkok. So excited!!!!
Oh, im jealous!!! Im also watching today in thailand, but in pattaya & no imax here... maybe its an excuse to go to bkk haha
Have a good time.
It opened in Canada yesterday where I am.
Make sure to read all 6 books. Everything clicked by book 5, it was at that point I finally felt like I understood the Dune universe
What did you think of the books?
Just watched It ; Absolutely breathtaking. Must watch on the biggest screen possible
Quinn the screenshot you've chosen for House Atreides with everyone waiting to leave the ship is literally my favorite shot in the entire film. There's something grandiose about seeing the entire house standing together as they arrive on ArrakIs.
Almost like Spaniards coming to central america... We come to rule you.
@@unwokeneuropean3590 yeah, that scene in Apocalypto still resonates with me
All I could think when I saw that scene was "oh shit, everyone in one place. they're gonna all die"
I was disappointed that they didn't show them folding space, they just went from leaving Caladan to walking out onto Arrakis.
@@emgee44 Legendary space folding sequence in the old movie, lol. I think it's because it's not really explained anywhere in the canon how it actually happens, so any depiction is fanciful. Even the navigators are still pretty mysterious to this day, not to mention how they operate. Dune is just a very mysterious universe all over.
The way you used real-world companies and explained everything so well is gold.
I had cursory knowledge of this but haven't thought of them like this way.
He had me at CHOAM = Space Amazon 😂
I loved that choamazon logo
@ㄉㄎㄉ • ꨆꨟꨮꩆ ꨣꨰꨕ What? what are you even saying?
I've read Dune twice. It was one of the most challenging books ever endeavored (next to LotR). It was also one of the most captivating. But I feel like I missed a lot, and couldn't keep all the information together. This video really coagulated the content, and got me a little pumped to dive into my third read.
Thanks for the content!!
"Dune", the first book any way, is good for at least 3 or 4 reads over time. There are so many concepts in the plot that become known once you are familiar with the book and Herbert's writing.
How do I read dune
@@chimdinduobidike3821 buy the book and start from the beginning
@@chimdinduobidike3821just buy the book??? Nah I'm kidding 😅 there are 6 Dune books that the author Frank Herbert wrote. The 1st book, titled "Dune" is the one most people read, but if you like that one you can then read the other 5
@@chimdinduobidike3821watching videos like this one for context before reading will help. It’s not as hard to read as people say so just go for it
I think the most valuable thing you've done here, is create an almost entirely spoiler-free breakdown for Dune novices. I use Dune as my central text in some of the composition courses I teach, and I find myself endlessly editing my proposed necessary summary of the Dune text/universe so that we can all approach it with equal footing within a given course. That's hard to do without spoiling certain nuances of the story while also remaining concise, but I think you've achieved both of those qualities here.
Nice job, dude.
Dude? Let me guess; you’re American. 😂
The only spoiler is at the end, saying that they need to keep Arrakis dry for the spice production. The movie and at least the fist half of the book I've read so far leave the question of why they don't terraform Arrakis to be more habitable open, at first saying it would just be too expensive. The guild doesn't even let Leto Atreides deploy weather satellites.
Watching a 5 minute lore video was very refreshing
Huh?
@@CadetKosmov thanks for spoiling it bro
The political system of the empire in Dune is heavily inspired by of that of the medieval Holy Roman Empire (HRE). Even the term "Landsraad" clearly has a medieval German/Dutch root, just like you'd expect from the HRE.
The HRE also had a council of noble families who had their own fiefdoms with a high degree of autonomy. Their leaders had various titles like "duke", "baron", or "prince", just like in the Dune empire and they officially elected the emperor, though often this was just a rubberstamp because an imperial house was so powerful (though never powerful enough to take on all the other houses combined, again just like in Dune) it simply had their male heir of choice confirmed by the electors.
The HRE didn't have the Bene Gesserit but in many the Catholic Church had a similar role.
Interestingly the HRE was torn apart in the 17th century (and never really recovered) by the Thirty Years War, a religious civil war between catholics and protestants that killed a significant portion of the population. I guess that's something that stuck with Frank Herbert in history class.
And, of course, the Bene Gesserit were based upon the Jesuits (hence the similar name). They didn't exist in the HRE, but substitute the Dominicans (or any other order) and...
There are similarities, and differences. House Corrino rules through military power. The emperor of the HRE was never a great military power, and both elected by a small subset nobles (not a Landsrat) who had inherited that privilege, and also invested by the Catholic pope. The emperor was not always the male progeny of the previous emperor, in part because not all emperors had male progeny. And, unlike kings, the emperor could not invest and divest nobles under his jurisdiction at will. The emperor and the pope jointly invested the bishops of the empire, but only the pope could divest them again.
The HRE was disbanded by Napoleon Bonaparte in the 18th century. (Purely by military might; he was not a member, let alone the emperor, of the HRE.)
The Thirty Year War was the most terrible war Europe had ever seen, and inevitably part of the HRE was part of that war. It did not tear apart the empire though. Members of the empire had been at war with each other before and afterwards as well.
@@davidwuhrer6704 House Corrino didn't rule through military means: it's literally said that the combined military power of the Landsraad would overpower House Corrino, just like in the HRE. The Ottonian and Habsburg dynasties definitely had powerful armies of their own. I'm unsure why you think the Landsraad is anything other than a small group of select nobles.
'The Holy Roman Empire was Neither Holy, Nor Roman, Nor an Empire' - Voltaire
@@TheAventine Haha, yeah, and the Empire of the known universe was neither an empire nor encompassing the known universe, so it fits really well.
I love how you use Amazon, and the GOT to illustrate your point hahaha...I'm just choked up over Space Amazon...
George RR Martin wishes he could do court politics as well as Frank Herbert, lol
@@warestari2000 George Martins politics is just to create fake dinners that turns to be manslaughters and other types of gore trauma
@@reflectcard6258 where do you think he got the idea? The red wedding &noble warriors leading their families into traps was a DIRECT lift from dune
Hell without dune &berserk GOT probly wouldn't exist
@@o-wolf I know, I was just stating, and Martin seems like he really like to do that
I love berserk but I don't think kentaro miura had any inspiration on George's writing I could be wrong but I doubt it .
I tried to read Dune so many times, but it was just too dense. The movie blew me away, and you've been the perfect guide to finally getting into the series
First two books are completely worth it, the other four of the main series are way denser and not as interesting. The ladder 8 books are great for simplicity since they are written by frank herberts son who was not as great a writer
Can't relate, books are so good with a lot of thinking involved. Hard not to enjoy.
Audible my friend. I’ve listened to so many books I don’t think I would have been able to read lol. Also good narrations.
@@blackpyxy9583 that’s exactly how I ended up getting through it, it was fully voice acted so it was a great time
@@EsotericCat The first 3 books written by Frank are Paul's story. God Emperor of Dune is the story of Paul's son, Leto II. The next two books focus on the Bene Gesserit, who have come to power 1500 years later. Frank died before finishing what was to be the final novel.
Then his son and Keven J. Anderson saw $$$$$, pretended to find "notes", and wrote copious amounts of bullshit that prove that if the notes existed, they were not followed, they don't understand the source material, and write for an audience that like explodey stuff and blood/guts/gore - but no intelligent philosophy that will make people debate it decades after.
So Dune is the middle east, and the houses are the rest of the world fighting for oil.
I was thinking just that!
More like opiates. Don't get the oil comparison
@@alexram5679 without oil the world would grind to a halt
I love the "We exist only to serve" mission statement of the Bene Gesserit, sums up the duplicity and mistruth of politics and organized religion.
The duplicity and mistruths found in SOME politics and organized religion. We ought to be careful with blanket statements put forth as all-encompassing fact.
I had no idea about dune until the 2021 movie came out. Then I found your channel when I wanted to learn more. Your videos got me into the books. I just finished Dune Messiah and already ordered Children of Dune 😄I’m so happy I found this series. I’m in love with reading again ❤️
Lol. Watch the old Dune to man as it has got bad ass moments too plus such actors as Sting and Patrick Stewart.
Stop it! Eyes are for screens. Leave your imagination and your critical thinking in the 20th century where they belong, along with handwritten notes and using a phone to actually call people.
😂 just kidding, that’s great lol.
same, on your first point
@@AntoniOrszykowski Yes. It's a classic.
As a many times reader of the series, this was an excellent description of the politics of the Imperium; well done!
As someone who’s reading dune, this was really helpful! Just like when i first read GOT, the first book has a lot of new information that is hard to keep up with and easy to get mixed up. This simplified a lot!
It warms my heart to see Atreides and Harkonnen banners displayed with in-universe colors
If only the people were in in-universe colours. Instead of this blackwashed travesty.
@@TomorrowWeLive wait so those banners in the video are the correct colours?
@@TomorrowWeLive Stfu, Dune is literally set in a Middle Eastern-esque desert planet, how is it “blackwashed” for these characters to be the most appropriate skin colour for that environment?
@@heilmodrhinnheimski Black people in any media role=blackwashing. haven't you heard?
Quinn has the best Dune content, and really helped reignite my love for the books. Im so excited for part 2
Just re-watched it last night with my dad, in anticipation of seeing Dune 2. Your explanation makes things a lot more clear. you should be given us gigs speaking for five minutes before every screening of one or two anywhere in the world.
Spoiler alert!! Don’t read beyond this if you plan on watching the movie! I found the ending prob the most profound part. The Fremen act as if they could care less if Paul and Jessica existed: EXACTLY as I perceived in the book. Additionally Paul is confused as to what his visions/dreams were about: a life for a new life…until faced with that situation. Then in that instance he sees that it’s not his life to be lost, but rather his death/rebirth after taking a life (a person dies to some degree when taking life, but can be reborn when the act is out of honor). Immediately after, all of the Fremen make a point to touch Paul as he walks by…not necessarily out of compassion but to them something more significant. They were validating him and his decision: ‘we now see you’ ‘we now recognize you as a person who has significant honor’ And you are who we hoped you would be.
That scene flagrantly deviates from the book, in that the fight takes place in the open and also not in underwear. It doesn't make as much sense, but it is more dramatic this way.
I find Jessica's answer to Stilgar's inquiry unsatisfying. It makes sense, but the audience might not realise that her answer is not the actual reason why Paul fights the way he fights.
Very cool analysis!
Paul is validated 3 times in the movie. His test with the Reverend Mother confirmed that he is not a mere instinct based man and has deeper thoughts than expected of men. His near-death with the Hunter Seeker showed that he was not the careless fool he was earlier and then when meeting the Fremen he is accepted as one who exists within their circle.
@@davidwuhrer6704 Jessica can't tell him "Paul is used to using a shield" since she has no idea who he is or how the Fremen fight.
@@SantomPh I don't understand. Surely Lady Jessica would know her own son, and that the still suits aren't shielded.
In the book they even fought in their underwear.
Dune with cross 200 million this weekend! Part 2 is looking good!
At least WB got their money back , seeing the issue with COVID I guess they will lake part 2
@@hamzanajji8615 don't they need to get double the budget to get their money back. Hollywood accountancy.
@@diverguy3556 I think it's a good rule of thumb. But because of that Hollywood Accounting, we will never actually know what it makes or what it cost to make. So... yeah, it's all guessing.
Sequel was just confirmed!
This is required viewing by everyone who watches the movie. Especially those who’ve never read Dune or see the 1984 version. Keep up the good work man.
The 1984 movie confuses more issues than it clarifies.
As a fan of the book, the 1984 movie, the mini-series, and now Dune (2021) you masterfully summarized the politics of the Dune universe so well. What a great primer for both the old and new fans alike. Excellently done.
I love how the book feels like ancient history despite being sci-fi set thousands of years into the future. This empire feels so small compared to maybe the empire in star wars or even the federation in star trek.
It's not small at all, we just don't have a lot of info precisely on how big it is and and other, minor houses. What we know for sure from the second book is that there are over 10.000 planets colonized by humans, hundreds of billions of people, maybe thousands of billions humans.
@@pedroeldiablo811 thats huge, but (pretty well thought out) estimates from the star wars empire say there's about 100 quadrillion citizens. That's 100 billion times a billion. I guess in that comparison the dune universe seems a bit small.
Lmao 😂, nothing absolutely nothing could be further from the truth
A single guild highliner could beat the entirety of the starwars and star trek
Dune is small because all living humans are addicted to spice which allows a small group to control what is otherwise impossible to control, dune is a universal empire, starwars and star trek would probably be isolated and ignored .
That's how big dune is
@@pedroeldiablo811
True , even 10000 must have been propaganda considering how easily the scattering happened.
They didn't just start exploring , they just knew where to flee and finally go where they wanted without guild dictates
10000 was what the emperor was allowed to control by the guild
As for the strength, its horrifying even cause the tleilaxu must have had tens of thousands of worlds and yet they were considered " weak" and couldn't quite attack a major house or the witches
Who in turn could not dare the emperor
most worlds were peaceful colonies who ignored the empire most of the time and couldn't be forced to fight
Quinn, I just discovered your channel, and it truly is one of TH-cam's hidden gems. You have a new subscriber ; -)
I wish Charles Dance had been required to wear that helmet in GoT
I wish he'd been cast as the emperor. He was born to play the hyper realistic power player.
@d R One can but hope.
@@graceskerp Can you please compare Dune to Game of Thrones for me? With analogies of who is the "real power in King's Landing," which Houses are the underdogs/most unpredictable, who is most ambitious etc.? I know nothing about the Dune universe.
How do you recommend getting into this series? What are the books/shows/movies to watch?
@@dawn-blade Sorry for the delay. I didn't read Song of Ice and Fire nor follow GoT that closely, so any contrast/compare will be superficial.
Firstly, unlike Westeros the noble houses in the Dune universe don't play a large role in the story. They certainly do fight among themselves, but they wisely make no play for imperial power. The Emperor's Sardaukars make sure they behave themselves. The most ambitious and dangerous is House Harkonnen.
Another compare: Dune is filled with characters who have their own agendas and goals.
Finally Dune has an important fringe group which everyone ignores or dismisses until they show up at the front door. They're led by a charismatic individual who succeed in kicking in the door, but with dire results for both himself and the empire.
Getting into the series: OK, start with the book. It's a dense read, certainly not a weekend or beach book, but it is worth the effort.
Films: Lynch's fundamental problem is the story can not be told in one feature film, just too much background and characters. If you can find it, there's the SyFy's version. It has its problems, doubtful casting choices and the budget definitely shows in the special effects and sets. However, it's far more faithful to the narrative than Lynch's.
Finally, check Quinn's Ideas and Nerd Cookies TY videos. They both do excellent analyses of all things Dune.
I just sw Dune last night with my 23 year old son. I have read Dune twice, the last time being over 30 years ago. You explained the politics of Frank Herbert's Universe almost perfectly. Thank you...
I would like to try some of that spice 😂🥺
Outstanding video. Felt so much more engaged in the lore just by listening to this. Concise and complete, thank you.
Love the Amazon/airline analogies.
Very well done. I really hope the Prequel Series will show in full detail how powerful the Bene Gesserit are and how the Imperium wouldn't exist without them. Loved the point of how the Baron Harkonen and Duke Leto are products of the cross breeding program of the Bene Gesserit.
Quinn one of your older Dune videos got me into reading all the books and I just wanna say thanks! I love your content and I am so happy to see so many views on this vid. GJ!
It always makes me happy when one of your videos passes a million views. Nobody deserves it more than you 👑👑👑
Complete agree! FANTASTIC video for newcomers!
This is gonna resurge again with part 2 coming out soon, and im all for it!
Seeing Quinn finally being able to use screenshots of the 2021 movie makes me happy.
Great video as always man. I heard that the CHOAM were comparable to OPEC but honestly you comparing CHOAM to Amazon makes a lot more sense. I always wondered if maybe the noble houses had their origins as the families of CEOs, Executives, and Board Members of various economic cabals. Gotta love the constant backstabbery (that's a word now) and manipulation in Dune.
I'm not sure it's a shame or a good move that they didn't really bring up the CHOAM shareholders and Noble/imperial House venn diagram being basically a circle.
It's nobles houses then 'CEOs, Executives, and Board Members of various economic cabals', because capitalism evolved from feudalism to mercantilism and finally today's imperialism/capitalism. Up until 1900ish most/all British Prime Ministers had been Lords.
@@queeniegreengrass3513 We have replaced the landed aristocracy with a moneyed aristocracy.
That totally makes sense. Duke Bezos XIII, Baronness Nancy XC of the House Walton.
Harkonnen is bald because they're descendants of House Bezos
The movie blew me away, and you've been the perfect guide to finally getting into the series
Pretty amazing actually how well all of this was conveyed in the movie without a lot of unnatural expository dialogue.
PHENOMENAL film and a masterpiece of modern sci-fi cinema entirely! LOVE this movie for what it was able to achieve and be and I’m so glad many others agree for what it was able to achieve!
your videos have always performed well but i'm so glad the views are spiking with its theatrical release. this series is phenomenal, and your channel truly does it justice. thank you for sharing your passion
I can’t believe I actually saw the movie!! This channel has had me so worked up for so long!! Awesome channel!!
The movie is crap
They're going to cast Doug Jones as Edric in Dune: Messiah. Mark my words
Wow ... that would be perfection.
Or Andy Serkis
@@MagicRobot95 ... was thinking of him as I left my reply because honestly, I think he's more likely to get the job.
THAT would be amazing!!
If I recall correctly David Dastmalchian said that he got a preview of what the navigators will look like and they are totally inhuman in appearance. They are going to be extremely elongated, which, to be fair, fits Doug Jones to a tee
If I was the overlord of a powerful family empire in the Duniverse, my royal family flag would be a smiling stick figure man.
After 2:15 ,brain has unexpectedly stopped,😂
Brilliant. You have truly become my go to guy for explaining Dune to the novices.
In fact I recommend your channel to other TH-camr who try to digest Dune without any research.
"Landsraad" is actually a Dutch word. It literally translates to county council.
Same in German
I think is based on the Holy Roman Empire political system.
@@startrekgenesis-gdr3723 I think that's correct.
@@markv785 we say Kaiser
@@markv785 hmm interesting.
Just discovered your channel, love all the history, lore and the deep dives into notable houses and power structures. Well done. :D
I search for an explanation and I found it now I need to watch it twice. Thank you.
I'm currently reading the 3rd book - but despite this, some of the stuff was still very difficult to understand and quite unclear! It's amazing how well you've explained this! :D
i want to read the books too, but my english prevents me
@@widjiro the books were translated to many different languages! You should see if you could read it in your native language:) I read mine in Polish ;)
Does your edition of the books still come with the glossary at the end? I remember reading through it and it spells out pretty much everything regarding CHOAM, Laandsrad, the guild etc
This is a perfect summary for beginners.
I'm very new to your channel but I already love it! This videos is very objective. I'll send it to my boyfriend whom doesn't know the whole universe of Dune, yet watched the movie and loved it.
Amazing video mate, spoiler free and super informative! I've just started reading the book and this is a great help, thank you!!
This is great. Well done. 👍🏻
Never read or really even heard of Dune till Denis Vileneuve and I cant thank you enough for the very diguestable and cool videos on the universe man. I know we are all eagerly awaiting PART 2!!!!
You sh rd the books. mn
You never disappoint! Quinn! Thank you for these informative, entertaining and meticulously-crafted videos on Dune.
I just left the theater and I’m still going OMG and wow! This movie made me so happy! Some truly Shakespearean scenes. I’m heading back tomorrow to watch it again!
The arrakis made me remember back when my country colonized by europian , they were come to our land to get spices because at that time spices is very rare and valuable in west
Not quite on topic but I do believe this movie was one of the most stylish creations to be put on film. Alot of it felt like a very high end fashion show and no one was more stylish than Benjamin Clementine (pictured in the thumbnail). Highly recommend watching him in the “Hallelujah Money” music video by Gorillaz. It’s very cool and powerful. He reminds me alot of Sindey Poitier and I would love to see him in similar roles or just more in general. They picked a very visually and charismatically enigmatic cast that really made the feel and vision of the movie it’s own (even though I wasn’t the biggest fan of it’s interpretation)
Much respect to you. This was very helpful to me because when I watch Dune my mind went blank.
"POLITICS IN SPAAAAAAAACCCCCEEEE!" in mel brooks voice
There’s a line in the book about religion in space. It shouts “SPACE TRAVEL” in all caps and in its own paragraph to emphasize the impact of space travel on religion.
I know you weren’t talking about any of this, but your comment reminded me of it. 🙂
@@nav579 I know I come off as mocking with Mel Brooks, but he does respect genre films. His son wrote World War Z and he was hoping Solarbabies would have been a franchise. Rewatching Young Frankenstein and that film is very true to it's source of classic monster films, "it's not the monster who was evil."
I thought the fight over some worm poop is kinda weird but then i realized we also fighting over some bird poop for fertilizer before we can synthesize it.
A very nice and simple explanation. Thank you!
As always, your videos are amazing! I’ve watched your and LMLs videos for years on ASOIAF.
I know you’ve always loved Dune so when the movie came out, I was so excited because I know you will fill in the gaps for me! Plus I’m starting the books soon! Can’t wait. Thanks Quinn.
On a side note, I want to know where they found the actor who played the Representative from the Emporer. Dude has cheekbones for days
His name is Benjamin Clementine, musician/singer.
thanks for this, made me understand dune better
I love that one of the members of Daft Punk was an extra in this very scene! Peace and amor bro
I have a suggestion for a new video. You could talk about economy in the Dune series, the role if CHOAM and about Mercantilism (economic system).
"The Economy of Dune Explained In FIVE Minutes"
The lore of Dune makes me think someone could make a really badass video game in the Dune Universe. Surprised someone hasn't tried it yet. GREAT VIDEO!!
there is one. Its called warhammer
@@incognitonotsure909 wait a minute, your telling me Warhammer is based on the Dune series?!?!?! NO WAY!!
@@DarthRaver-og7qq nope, not literally. But it copied so much from Dune that it might as well be.
Holy shit, I thought I was listening to WarHammer lore for a moment lol
Imperium, Emperor, Navigators…
I can see where 40K got a good deal of inspiration
There’s more.
The Immortal God Emperor. May we remember his sacrifice for all time.
Yep. Somebody read Dune and the Lord of the Rings and then tripped on LSD.
The Emperor protect us, brother
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He guides us down his golden path. Saving mankind. His prescient power sees all futures at once. His eternal dreaming guides humanity.
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...but geekery aside. the similarities between the God Emperor of Dune and The Emperor of Mankind are quite extensive.
My posts are actually from Dune. But a "non-spoiler...” The Immortal God Emperor is not Paul.
But rather someone from a later book. He has near limitless prescient abilities and the consciousness and memories of all of his ancestors are within him. He sacrifices himself for the preservation of mankind along the “Golden Path.”
I tell a lot of Warhammer fans that Dune is worth a read just to see where they got so much inspiration from.
@@genmaicha.lapsang Spoilers
If I remember the God-Emperor of Dune is Leto II the son of Paul
And I totally agree that Dune is worth reading and/or watching, truly a masterpiece of sci-fi
GREAT, now i already watched the movie... your video become solid foundation for basic DUNE knowledge, time to read novel 😆
You forgot to include IX and the Tleilaxu. They also, even though quite hidden, are powers to not mess with.
There was no reason for him to mention them, as this video was meant for people who have only seen the movie. Neither Ixians nor the Bene Tleilax are mentioend in that movie, even though the Baron's pet and his twisted mentat, De Vries, are both Tleilaxu creations.
Quinn's analogy of Amazon is so spot on!
Spice is more related to DMT, Shrooms, and mainly Andrenochrome, if you know what that is, how its made, and what it does, rather than oil imo.
good comment. I would say more LSD. At that time, the sixties, besides shrooms, I do not know if that other stuff was well known or used as much.
I recall from the book that Tufir reveals to the baron that the Emperor saw the Duke as a serious rival. The Duke according to Tufir managed to train some of his soldiers not only to match those of the emperor but even surpass them... Add to this that the Duke's popularity within the great royal houses was what you call a rising star, it raised a red flag to the Emperor. This 2 things caused The Emperor seeing the Duke as a threat to his reign.
Unfortunatley the movie skipped this, and didnt even showed the military power of each house, we only see that they fight somewhat evenly, and most will probably think that the atreides lose because caught off guard. ive been kinda put off by the movie, cos the in the book, the demise of duke leto is as impactful as the fall of ned stark in ASOIAF. He seems to be almost outsmarting the harkonnens, and then...the movie just kinda glazed over the most important stuff, IMO
The irony is that if Leto had just been younger/ young enough to marry irulan then things might have been different. there is a scene of irulan watching her father looking at an ego likeness = hologram painting combo of Duke Leto and irulan thinking they look so much alike ( distant cousins) & worthy to be the Emperor's son (he has only daughters)
Just wrapped up Book 1/Part 1 of Dune and this helped me so much!! I did look at the glossary occasionally while reading but this put all the moving parts together well.
Day no. 69 of trying to will Mads Mikkelsen as the Emperor for part 2.
yes god please
It's crazy to see how much correlates with Game of Thrones even though they are set in completely different times. Game of Thrones is my favourite show and I know a lot about the lore, but now getting into all the dune lore it's very easy to spot the things that inspired George RR Martin
Although Dune is sci fi its politics and 'aesthetic' are very medieval. I think it's less of GoT being inspired by Dune and more of them both taking from the same source, real European history
Yeah like killing 70% of the protags in the first part lol
@@alahsiaboi8909 RIP to Khal Duncan man..
@@alahsiaboi8909 As goes the Bene Gesserit saying; "Do not count a human dead until you've seen his body. And even then you can make a mistake."
@@WilliamMcSkilliam you're right ,they planned to bring back gurney,thufir,and (spoiler alert) Idaho
The author must have taken some inspiration from Norway and our language because Landsraad literally means "country counsel" and Melange is a type of butter we have here😆🤠
Probably
Quinn I must say that has probably got to be the most clear-cut best explained Internal politics of the dune series. I’ve read most of the books seen all the movies in miniseries well done.
Evil Quinn be like: "May the Force be with you"😆
Really great content it helped me a lot in understanding the context of the movie. Idk if this is possible but if you can when you are talking about the various connections between factions having an illustrative chart would help show the various political connections. For example when you were discussing the connections between various houses in the imperium and their level of influnece in the choam company etc. If this is possible that would be great if not oh well you're still producing great content thanks.
Just finished watching on HBO Max. I’m impressed!
You missed out the most important fact about spice, which is that without it the guild navigators cannot fold space. If the spice stopped flowing, inter-system space travel would end - that's why control of spice production is such an important element in the politics of the imperium.
Finally got round to watch this film and was blown away but I had a lot of questions! This has been super helpful, thanks!
This is a great video for new fans and I’ll definitely be sharing it so they don’t have to hear me talk for hours about DUNE’s depiction of human politics, or Frank Herbert’s subtle commentary of the fallibility of human leaders. You should do a 5 minute video on fighting / warriors of DUNE! The Sardakaur are superb warriors not just because of excellent training, but because of the brutality of life on the prison planet of Salusa Secondus. It’s implied that the Fremen are their equal if not superior because of the equally harsh environment of DUNE, the influence of the Spice on Fremen biology, and their strong religious beliefs / culture of dueling, such as Paul’s fight against Jamis. Paul himself has been trained his whole life as a fighter in the Atreides tradition (Duke’s son), trained by a sword master (Duncan), with the mental agility of a mentat (Hawat), and the superior conditioning of Bene Gessirt mother. If DUNE: Part 2 doesn’t have some more anti-Harkonnen raiding by the Fremen, I’ll be so disappointed!
Herbert was the GOAT universe-creator, but not so much a dialogue/plot wizard. The Dune storyline is both bit banal and too complicated in the same time, but you just have to fall in love with the fantastic world he created. If born 50 years later he would surely be a creator of on of those all immersive video games.
No way, I've got to STRONGLY disagree with that claim entirely. Don't agree at all that the storyline/plot is in anyway "banal" in ANY way, as it's VERY original for the time it was created and filled with fresh new ideas and amazing concepts for the story to be unfolded under as ALOT of stories AFTER Dune came out took HEAVY inspiration and influence from Dune's plot and world because of how amazing it all was.
The dialogue in dune IS pretty good, great, even amazing considering how many iconic lines of dialogue there are there that have become widely knows but it's just very dense and not so easy to read as the characters don't all talk super casual like modern ordinary people.
How is this channel not bigger?
This guy is fantastic.
Also you should do audio books
Clear, concise and to the point!! Thanks so much for this video
Loved Dune in IMAX!! What a experience definitely something I’ll remember for sure!! 😎
Wow, A film based on an all-time great work fiction book that is completely well done and enjoyable to watch. Bravo to Denis Villeneuve and everyone involved
It's not just "Well done", it's a PHENOMENAL Masterpiece of a film and it's only part one!
Quinn, you wear that pimp outfit like a certified sci-fi boss. 😂👍👌
Straight up. Quinn really killing it
Guys got style.
"Only an American would assume a fashion-forward Black man looks like a pimp.”
-Zemo
@@johnnywilliams4984 He could be white, Latino, whatever, and still look like a pimp in those clothes.
Your metorphoric way of describing the politics is brilliant
The Bene Gesserit claiming to "live to serve" reminds me of Varys saying the same thing. Even the vibes kind of match
Spice is illegal in Star Wars.
And it is just a simple drug, it doesn't heal or give you extra lifespan.
Star wars is for kids, Dune is for actual adults
@@richardalvarez2390not really
Star wars Legends is actually very complex. Vitiate and Palpatine were very gruesome @sharkquisha3407
Of course the spacing guild cannot do anything at all without large amounts of spice.
If you really think about it the world of Dune is really depressing and extremely dystopian.
Yes, but we grew accostumed to the idea that the future will always be better and brighter, and that is not necessarily the case.
It's not at all "dystopian" at all. It starts off fairly and there places there are unbelievably cruel and harsh but there are other places that are peaceful and nice. It's a mixed bag of places so it's not at all "extremely dystopian" at all, yes the galaxy gets worse through evil actions but it doesn't start off as "dystopian" to be categorized one right off the bat as a label in genre at all. There are good places and bad places, just like in real life. It's a mixed bag of situational conditions, at the start anyways.
Because it is based on places on earth....
@@archvaldor uhhhh no that’s not the reason and even than dune still isn’t dystopian. Well it doesn’t start off that way.
THANK YOU! this will help when i read Dune again 20+ years later. Now that i know the difference between Sci-Fi and Space Fantasy.
I'm new and this is all F-ing SICK!!!! love it.
This is great. Perhaps a more detailed account of each group would be possible? I'd love a video on Caladan, or The story of house Atreides and its beginning with Vorian Atreides or Harkonen's or the Bene Gesserit and the how they morphed from the Sorceresses of Rossak. Or just house Corrino and their long line, their origins from before the Butlerian jihad. I'd watch any of those and more
lol this WHOLE channel is about Dune entirely, I'm sure he made a video on everything you said here.