Simple Duck Load With Any Hull/Primer-- 🦆🔨
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- Here I show you how to put together a simple waterfowl load you can put in any hull, with any primer and any shot size. Here is the load... 1-1/4 ounce steel shot, 35 grains Steel powder, LBC50 wad, 1450-1480 FPS.
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Disclaimer
I am NOT responding for your safety and load practices. Load this recipe at your own risk. don't be an idiot. You can't sue me because I don't own anything. You want my sh*tbox truck?... That's all I got.
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Let me know if I should do a video on some loads with available powders!... I have lots of 12 and 20 gauge loads with Lil'Gun and Longshot!
I would definitely be interested seeing some 12 gauge loads with Longshot.
Yes to the Longshot!!
Very interested in some 2 3/4 options for longshot woth steel shot, seems to be the second best thing to Steel powder
20 ga would be nice
Some Lil gun 12 gauge loads would be nice.
Those reloads have far better crimps than factory ammo. Dang good job.
That's the goal! Thanks man!
Lol first thing I noticed
Very nice setup! Looks like a lot of work.
This is my set up at home... Not my shop. It can get cluttered when I'm loading for the season. But thanks! 😆
Great video, good stuff
Tried some .25 steel slingshot ammo at wallyWorld couple of weeks ago and done a few 2-3/4 inch 12 and 20 Guage loads.. works really good.. feels fast but very light recoil at about 1 to 1-1/8 Oz. Kinda expensive tho.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Great video.
Great info! Thank you for sharing my friend! Great ino! Thank you for or shanyy tinh my frir
Good stuff .
I would love to see you work up a load like that for 2 3/4” hulls
I have a few in mind, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
there is load out there, called (10gaOkie HG load). Very similar to this load. Csd118 or LBC43 wad 32-34 Asteel, 1 1/8 oz of steel shot. Google it there lots of info regarding 10gaOkie HG load.
@@saltcreekammo any idea yet?
Have you ever had any of the LBC wads, like the 43 or the 50 used in the video pinhole after shooting?
Interested in the pattern results and what choke you used.
Good question. Have you used lil gun powder for your 12 ga duck load before?
I’m snowed in and looking for that long shot load
I'm away from home for the holidays, and besides that have no time to get to making videos and expanding this channel.
Here is the load in case I never get to making a video about it.
2-3/4" Cheddite hull/primer.
32 grains Longhsot.
MG42 wad
1 ounce steel (#2 to #4 is ideal)
Fold crimp.
11,400 PSI
1570 FPS.
I’m wondering if you could be of a little help, thanks in advance for your time and help. I’m looking for a Wad I can use to reload some 28ga. TSS / Steel Duplex load. I can’t find 28ga. TPS Wads ANYWHERE. I’m sure there has to be something out there. Thanks again for ANYONE that can help me out.
@@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984 I would consider the HV28 wad... Not sure if there is a TSS/steel load using it, but @bullet225ho has what he called the "cheat code" duplexing TSS and bismuth.
@@saltcreekammo 👍 Yep I seen that very load and it definitely is a Cheat Code for sure.
My published load in the Remington I reload is only 26 grains of steel powder to 11/4 oz curious on if I’m losing velocity or if your load would be ‘unsafe’ for it lol
have you loaded anything like this with Blue dot ?
What primers do you use?
On average, How many shells can you load with a 1 pound bottle of The Alliant steel powder?
7000 grains in a pound divided by 35 grains per load equals 200 loads.
Do you load turkey loads for sale? If so do you load tss for the 16 gauge
Sure do... Email me at--
saltcreekammo@gmail.com
ok thanks but in Italy we are still behind and steel is hard to find here.
Can I lower the powder charge to 34 gr? With 35gr I cant get a very good crimp on them.
Was the original load 32.5 gr of alliant steel powder?
I'm not sure, there are several like it with lower powder charges. I haven't personally tested this for pressures. My friend who gave me this load (who works in the industry) said he did and it's in spec. I'm guessing it's on the upper end. All I know is it kills ducks pretty well. I might do a follow up video pattering and sharing the P/V results from my own testing.
@@saltcreekammo we would love to see the pattern results
Just subbed good content Have you any experience with loading bismuth?? I have some older fixed choke guns I wanted to try some bismuth in. You might like my other channel Badlands ballistics
Yes, my 2-3/4" bismuth load was stolen then bastardized by a bigger company... I might make some videos soon on some hammer jammer bismuth loads.
@@saltcreekammo doesn’t sound like they’re really any magic tricks about loading bismuth and I think it’s pretty cost-effective, even though the materials are so expensive
good stuff! have you pattern shot these? yardage?
Never really patterned them. All I know is they shoot very well on ducks. Been my go-to cheapo/bulk load for a few years now.
Great video, just curious where you get your steel wads? I can only find them at Precision Reloading. Thanks!
I get 95% of my components from Ballistic Products Inc.
@@saltcreekammo Thanks, appreciate that. I'll check them out.
@@saltcreekammo Do the unslit work as is or do you have to make the slit yourself? Thanks.
That is, the wads for steel shot.
What range are you shooting these load at on duck?
Normal ranges... Idk, anywhere from decoy range to pass shooting.
Just wondering what the pressure is of your load? I’m loading 1oz steel with 1/4 oz of of tss. With 31.5 grains of alliant steel with cheddite hulls an it does a ticket on waterfowl. Wanted to bump up fps but Leary of pressure.
What wad are you using with your 1oz & 1/4 tss.
@@anatoliykutsyy8937 TPS wad
Have you try 11/8 oz daisy bb on ducks?
I don't think I have. The pellet count isn't ideal. I like the 1-1/8oz with #4's
@saltcreekammo and to let you know, the pellets count with 1 1/4 oz of air gun bb are 102 bb
Would using the TPS 12 3” wads be a problem instead of the LBC50?
There are loads with the TPS in 3.5" with more powder, so I assume it'd be fine as long as it all fit together tiddy. I would test it in a 3.5" gun as well (for pressure safety).
*I am not liable for your safety or load practices* *Shoot at your own risk*
Is there any variance in pressure between all those hulls? Not trying to die over saving 25c a shell lol
There probably is, but I've never had an issue shooting them. The developer of the load had them pressure tested in multiple hulls. You will also run lower pressures if you load it conventionally without a rolling crimp finisher. Hope this helps... The original load was under 1400 FPS at 33 grains. So if you want to run it there, go for it.
What's the psi?
Hi, I'm an Italian hunter. But are these pellets safe for reloading? Aren't they too hard?
No, that's a common misunderstanding. If it's an issue, simply use the steel shot of your choice.
Ive seen pictures of older fixed choke guns with barrels bulged from it.. I actually whitnessed my buddy ruin a brand new rem 870 with less than 15 rounds.. Sparks flew from muzzle as he shot. He was using the TPS wads in fed hulls as yours.
Super Mag barrel. He split the choke tube by
using the steel airgun shot in his reloads
As he was unable to locate BB. Super Sam steel... So he went bought 7 or 8 bottles of daisy BB'S.. And it was a steel rated modified tube that the gun came with... Personally i wouldnt..but thats my choice from experience.
@@rodsvintagesxschannel.3095 i have stainless steel mesh i toss my bbs into to anneal them in a fire. Can put about 12 lbs into each basket. Softens them up real fast
This load will work with federal blackcloud 3 inch?
Yep
How did they pattern?
What primer are you using?
Cheddite CX2000.
What choke do you use for these load?
@@clks1165 Light Modified
@saltcreekammo would it work with IM and full steel shot rated choke?
Is that a roll crimper your using to make a taper?
Sort of... It's made to finish fold crimps, but can roll crimp shells as well. I like the Reloaders Network 4 pin roll crimp tool over the GAEP tool I'm using here to roll crimp.
Is the Gaep
BN2 or BN4?
How fast do you have your drill press running for the GAEP tool?
The slowest setting on the harbor freight drill press... I think 1100 RPM
Quick question the fed hull is white donut base wad?
I believe it has a plastic base wad.
Would the TUPRW123 wad work with this load ?
I use the TUPRW105 for my ten gauge loads and i notice the wad is much thicker.
It works great with BB gun BBS the wad looks great after shooting.
Where are you finding Alliant steel I can’t find anywhere pm me please I’m in need of it I got some published loads that I’m working on 1605fps with BB an I can’t find steel powder to load up shells
I got a bunch of it for cheap like 4 years ago. Sorry, I'm not parting with it.
@@saltcreekammo that’s ok I wasn’t asking if you would I just was curious if you had found it and where haha if I woulda known when I first started I woulda stocked up too but I didn’t know anything about Alliant steel so I stayed away now that’s all the load data I have calls for Alliant steel 🤦🏻♂️😂
Can you do a 3" bismuth load?
Yup
@Salt Creek Custom Ammunition what is the load data for 12 gauge? Got some bismuth to mess with and want to try to make some up
What primers are you using on these loads?
Winchester 209's or Cheddite CX2000
What’s the tool in the drill press called?
GAEP BN2 or BN1
What velocities are you getting with these loads?
Between 1450-1485 FPS.
Out of curiosity, does the Gaep crimp finisher help with any mushrooming/flaring on hulls?
It tapers the crimp for more reliable feeding (and ignition).
@@saltcreekammo Thanks for the response. I load a few different hulls and as such, I sometimes get some mushrooming on some of the finished ones.
What model MEC is that?
600 Jr... Pulled it out of a trash heap at the dump 😆
@@saltcreekammoI also wanted to ask which GAEP did you use for this video cause from what I’m seeing on the ballistic products website is it the BN3?
Air rifle BBs ARE NOT annealed and are MUCH harder than steel shot used for waterfowl ammunition!!! You'd better have a VERY tough wad, or you will absolutely risk barrel scoring. Being harder shot, it will also run at higher pressures because it won't set back or flow through the choke as easily as annealed steel shot. C'mon man. You're going to get somebody hurt or at least damage a barrel
Even if anything you claim is true, none of that matters when you're using a wad rated for tungsten super shot, which is harder than any steel out there. Been shooting ducks this way for 5+ years now in multiple guns with no issues... Happy hunting.
@@saltcreekammo hey man like the video but density and hardness are not synonyms
@@MrJuiceyjuice9 tungsten is more dense and harder than any iron steel out there. That's a fact. The main point is these coated BB's aren't going to harm modern shotgun barrels-- which are usually chrome lined, adding even more hardness and protection to the inside of barrels.
You do you all you want, but i've shot hundreds of loads like this without issue. Put commercial steel shot in this load. Makes no difference.
I use air gun bbs no scoring or anything they are the same hardness as normal steel shot they are a shot size B not true BB
@@saltcreekammo I was blowing crossman bbs out of my old double gun , not even steel proofed 40 years ago , 👍👍💥💥 ps new subscriber from the UK
What primer are you using?
Any non magnum primer will work... I typically use a CX2000 (cheddite) or Win209.
@@saltcreekammo can you also try tps 2 3/4" wads?
What primers are you using in these loads?
I use mostly Cheddite and Winchester primers.