2022 Honda CRF250F vs 2022 Honda CRF250R Back to Back Ride! Woods Loop
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2022
- Fun back to back ride on my buddy Greg's 2022 Honda CRF250F and my 2022 Honda CRF250R on a short woods loop.
The CRF250F (MSRP $4749) is a fun trail bike with a fuel injected air cooled 4-stroke engine that runs clean with no stalling or hesitation and almost no vibration. The power is smooth (great for beginner riders) and the exhaust note is quiet. The suspension is very plush and works well for slower paced trail riding but quickly uses up all of it's 8.5" of travel as speed increases. The seat to footpegs to handlebar ergonomics feel modern with a thin overall feet. The disc brakes offer decent stopping power with good modulation. Excellent front end steering feel and smooth vibration free power were my favorite characteristics of the '22 CRF250F. The weight (265 lbs full of gas) was my least favorite part of the bike - not sure why this bike weighs so much. Lap time around the woods loop: 2:49
The 2022 Honda CRF250R sets the bar for "Fun to Ride" 250F moto bikes with an almost 125 2-stroke like agility and lightweight handling feel. The '22 CRF250R engine finally has decent low to mid power with good top end pull too. The biggest weakness on the CRF250R is the firm damping in the forks, especially noticeable on the choppy sections of trail on this short woods loop. Lap time for the '22 CRF250R on this loop was 2:35.
Fun to ride (2) Honda 250 4-strokes off road bikes back to back! The 2022 CRF250F exceeded my expectations with impressive front end turning feel and modern ergonomics. The '22 CRF250R is just plain fun to ride with quick and agile handling and a responsive engine. Ride Red!
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I just want the F motor in the R frame 😅
That would be a very reliable, low maintenance, great handling bike!
I feel like the aftermarket probably gives us the opportunity to upgrade the F and dial it in to personally fit u as a rider for probably the same price as the R
What he said!
@@chrisfederoff1047 hell yeah buddy😎 although after a year I would change it to :
Juiced up F engine (like 25-30hp) still air cooled, in a RX frame (more trail oriented)
But I still agree with my original comment :)
I want the reverse of that. I like the shorter seat, but want the power.
Incredible video and riding man! It really shows when you can keep your train of thought going when ripping it up.
Thanks!
Glad you made this vid. I’m still waiting for my 2022 250F to arrive. Idaho
I saw (2) new 22 CRF250F's at a Honda dealer today...I hope yours shows up soon!
Just bought a 23 CRF250RX. Sold my 450 because it was to much for a 52 year old anymore. Very happy with it so far. Didn’t think it would be enough but now I have time on it and you are right, they are really all most mortal men need to have fun. Picked up a crf125 big wheel to play on also. Honda still makes great bikes.
Congratulations on your new '23 CRF250RX - such a fun do it all bike! The new CRF125F and CRF250F are kind of like modern day (fuel injected) Honda XR's. Ride Red!
Great video straight to the point
Thank you! I hope to get some more time on the 22 CRF250F soon - it is a fun bike to ride!
Glad to see a review where the creator didn’t rag the “F” model. Two totally different bikes. I’ve got the 250F pre ordered. Only way to get one. I like slow, predictable, and reliable. Great video!
Glad you enjoyed the video! I really like the CRF250F - reminds me of a modern day Honda XR250 - this time with fuel injection! Hope your CRF250F comes in soon!
i went from a klx 140 to a 250f and it is easy and fun to ride all my buddy’s ride 250rs and i can go up anything they go and keep right up with them in the woods
@@pmasttv8454 I rode a 22 CRF250F again yesterday - will load the video soon! Also rode with a buddy's daughter who was on a KLX140....CRF250F and KLX140 both fun and capable bikes!
@@pmasttv8454 to be honest you don't need a lot of power unless you like open desert with the throttle pinned. Everything else you can do even on a crf70f, there rest is pure technique and yes good suspension. Power wise you need very little.
I'm in the market for the CRF250F, I could ride the R, however I also want something I don't need to take in to the shop for regular maintenance and something I can let my kids, friends ride. I may, one day pick up the R for myself but one step at a time.
Finally a good review video!
Thank you! CRF250F is a great bike! I had fun riding the CRF250F chasing my buddy Greg.... th-cam.com/video/o6Qgjja12hQ/w-d-xo.html
Will get more rides on the CRF250F soon
Great review 👏 thanks
Thank you!
I’m fortunate enough that I’m in a position where I could go buy any reasonably priced dirtbike if I wanted to. I very specifically went for ‘22 F. Less cost, less maintenance, and more forgiving while I work on building from my existing skill base into more tight off road stuff. The money saved can get put into going out and riding more, and honestly I have zero desire to do a full service every time I wheel it out of the shop. The motor is bombproof, and these bikes hold their value really frickin well so if I decide down the road to get something more racey I’m not losing my shirt on it like a lot of high end bikes on the used market(near me at least).
Really cool seeing the 2 ridden back to back by a competent rider. Right on.
Thanks Aaron! Glad you liked the review. The CRF250F is a very capable bike and as you noted low maintenance and will last forever. Kind of what got some many people hooked on Honda motorcycles. Glad that Honda still makes these kinds of dirt bikes.
I've bought a crf250f 2022 couple months ago. I was in the same mindset as you are. I wanted a simple and low costs bike just to have fun on trails. I went from an old chinese 250 with a honda xl185 engine swap. I think it will be night and day compared to the old Frankenstein.
@@cebastienlarochelle8182 The '22 CRF250F is a very fun and capable trail bike. The updated frame and engine work well together. Ride Red!
im almost 50 and looking at riding with my 14 yr old (we're first timers) im thinking the 250F so i can ride it on the road as well. Can you hit some light jumps on it if i even get that far lol?
Outstanding
Great video
Thank you!
Good video
Its nice to hear someone give these bikes some love for what they are, and are intended for. Its unfortunate Japan doesnt make any competitive trail bikes like the XR anymore. Low maintenance motor, in a good chassis and suspension. KLX300R is kinda close, but really heavy. Chinese bikes are really hitting that market here, and they are good bikes. One has become my fun bike
The GPX and SSR seem to be really good Chinese bikes for trails.
Yes the '22 CRF250F exceeded my expectations: a capable and fun to ride off road bike with Honda quality and dealer support. Honda sells the '22 CRF450RS: basically the previous generation CRF450R. Can you imagine if Honda put a low maintenance air cooled fuel injected engine in a previous generation R chassis...like a modernized XR250/350/400. I'd buy one in a heartbeat!
The crf f models in both 230 and 250 cc are in fact the replacements for the xr’s and at least the 22 model is fuel injected. Here’s a cool video of cross training enduro talking about it: th-cam.com/video/-P0WNxvAooo/w-d-xo.html
The xr and the crf were the same motors just different suspension ttable like the crf 230f I'm the same as the xr 200
Why not just buy a Xr it'll go for ever
I got myself a crf450r & crf230f. Best of both worlds, 230 for tight trails and 450 for open trail
Ride Red!💪
Nice, real world comparison and thoughts, thanks for sharing.
Also, your audio quality is very good. What's your microphone and camera setup, if you don't mind sharing?
I use a GoPro Hero 7 with the GoPro microphone adapter and a TNE gaming microphone all connected to a Dango GoPro mount which is clipped to the chinbar of my helmet. The microphone is inside the chinbar and has a foam cover on it. Works great!
@@mxengineer1 Awesome, thanks for the info and getting back to me! Do you remember which model mic?
@@MotocrossHideout It is a gaming microphone. I think it is a TNE?...I recall it was very cheap - like maybe $8.99?
@@mxengineer1 Aight, I'll figure it out, ha. Thanks again!
@@MotocrossHideout Pretty sure it is this microphone... www.amazon.com/TNE-Replacement-Microphone-Nintendo-Headphones/dp/B07HJDX61Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2BXA1PM5TG1WF&keywords=Ninge+Replacement+Microphone+3.5mm+Game+Mic+Boom&qid=1691150714&s=electronics&sprefix=ninge+replacement+microphone+3.5mm+game+mic+boom%2Celectronics%2C96&sr=1-1
I used to ride a 230f when I was just lesrming in the desert but the second o got on the 250r I instantly knew I liked that bike more. I was ridin the 230 like a race bike tho. Also now I go to the track which the 250r is made for
Honda 230 or 250R...Ride Red!
I’m looking a trail bike/ just mess around on bike and I can’t decide between a 150rb or 250r, the small frame 150 looks so fun
I owned a CRF150RB (the big wheel version) for a while. I am 6' 2" tall to I put tall handlebars and lowered/back footpegs and it was such a fun bike! So playful and lightweight and a little cramped too. If you can fit on the CRF150RB it is hard to beat that lightweight flickability. The CRF250R (or even the CRF250F) both have fuel injection so engine runs perfect in all temperatures and e-start too. Nice to have choices
Wouldn’t it be a little better if a comparison if you do a back to back with the 250R and the 250X?
This was just a fun back to back with the CRF250F model...a bike I rarely get a chance to ride - very fun bike!
Super cool video . Hey I was hoping maybe you could help me out. I'd like to buy a 2021 Honda crf250f and there is a good shop with 4 .7 star. And they have the bike for 4k I'd like to know what is a good compression number for that bike. Please help
I am not sure - perhaps a check of a Honda Service Manual for that model would list the expected compression number for that model. Maybe a local dealer could look it up. Here is an owner's manual link to the '21 CRF250F cdn.powersports.honda.com/documentum/MWOM/ml.remawmom.2021_31k99q20_crf250f.pdf
cool video!! i just got a 2022 150rb
I had a 2007 CRF150RB (the big wheel). Even at 6'2" tall and 190 lbs I could lap that bike within 1.5 secs of my bigger 250F. Cool Honda still makes that bike! Ride Red!
@@mxengineer1 Im 5'10" at 150 lbs so the 150r feels a bit more comfortable.
Was thinking of getting a 250f but with an exhaust system but saw one in person and they are way to short for me lol a 250 r alone is already too small which sucks
The CRF250F is a bit more compact in size than the CRF250R
Can you please explain that chatter when hard breaking please? My bike does it to an a lot of other ones I’ve seen online but it drives me nuts. Is it hard on the bike? I just don’t ask understand what it is
That is the rear tire under hard braking skipping along the ground and the chain slapping against the chain slider on the swingarm. Sometimes loosening the rebound on the rear shock helps keep the tire in better contact with the ground under braking and can reduce that chatter sound.
I straight piped my 250f by taking the spark arrester out and I got a huge power boost, quick snappy power like a race bike. Also sounds a lot better
from what I hear in other reviews even though it's very heavy it feels lighter than most of it's class.
Easily done? Pull it out end?
@@derekhebert734 3 8mm bolts and thats it
@@JadenCoffey4 thx pick up bike tomorrow
@@derekhebert734 250f? If you are gonna remove the spark arrester I recommend putting back on the chrome exaust tip with the three bolts, makes it sound less like a fart can. It also keeps the threaded holes from corroding incase you do want to put the spark arrester back on jn the future. You’ll understand what I’m talking about when you get the bike.
Hey I need help deciding I want a bike for enduro and exploring but I also want I bike to go fast on the roads because either way I’m turning whatever bike street legal. I’m 170ib 6’1 I’m leaning towards the r but I don’t want to really deal with a lot of maintenance I really don’t know what bike to get (also I think the f is a little too short and I’m going to look giant on it and I don’t want that I’ve been riding for a year with a xr100 but I need something bigger and something that will last me forever and I can have for a couple years without out growing I’m 16
XR100 is a fun and lightweight bike that is also very durable. I would recommend visiting a few dealers and getting their recommendations on various bikes based on your skill level. Perhaps you have family members that can also give recommendations based on your skill and experience. There are lots of options for street legal off road bikes. Bikes like a XR150L or CR300L would be a step up from the XR100 and both are street legal. KTM/Husqvarna/Gas Gas and Beta all offer higher performance street legal off road bikes. There are a lot of choices!
I have a 2014 crf125f I had when I was younger and a lot smaller, I want more power and size. I ride it round our farm and throw our woodlands no racing or timed stuff I want a simple reliable honda. What would you recommend would a crf250f be enough of a jump or would I have to get a crf450,
CRF125F to CRF450R is a BIG JUMP!!!! Perhaps the CRF450X would be a big more enjoyable riding around the farm. I also find the latest CRF250F's to be very capable too. Both fun bikes! Ride Red!
How do you know when you change the modes in the ecu map thing
A quick press on the map switch will make the blue map light come on and flash the selected map (1-flash is map 1 - the stock map, 2=flashes in Map 2 the Soft map, and 3-flashes is Map 3 the aggressive map)
how tall do you think somebody should be to ride the 250r? i’m 5’6 and a half and i feel really comfortable on a 250f good size
Ricky Carmichael is about your size and had no issue riding full size race bikes. Really comes down to how comfortable you are riding a dirt bike without being able to put your feel flat on the ground (probably you will tip toe or have one flat on the ground and the other on the footpeg). There are people smaller than your riding full size dirt bikes. You can also get lowering links for the rear suspension to get a bike lower to the ground (though it will have an effect on suspension feel).... www.koubalinks.com/
If Honda built a an FI air cooled XR400 in a modern chassis with good suspension I'd buy it in a second.
Me too!!!
They would sell like hotcakes wouldent keep em on any showroom floor.
Where are you riding? Is this a private place? Thanks.
Yes a private farm
I have both a 250F and a 250X. Sure the X is fast but just to ride I will grab the F every time. To tell the truth, If we go on an all day ride I will be on the old XR 200r.
Cool you have both the CRF250X and CRF250F AND a XR200(!!!) I like the smoothness and perfect running in any temperatures or conditions of the EFI on the new CRF250F but would be cool if weighed closer to the old XR200. Something about those old air cooled Honda XR's...indestructible and so much fun to ride!!!
cut the baffle cap out an itl make it sound a nice little crack on the top.... aight to make it breathe 99% better. little buddy got one, we did this,,, he loves the sound now
Cooler sound and more power is always nice!
I like the CRF250R so much more because it's more of a race bike hahaha, both really nice bikes though
Yes both great bikes - just a fun back to back ride. Wish Honda would make something between these models...kind of like a modern day XR250
Ohio rocks! Allen County here. Ride for life. #Honda #KTM #Maxima
Some great riding in Ohio!
Where In ohio are good easy trails for young kids to learn?
Never owned a dirtbike, sold my street bikes, and would like to go tool around on trails, what would you recommend. 6’2 210. I know they don’t handle like street bikes obviously, but how much Different skill is involved that would bar me from getting a higher end bike versus a beginners bike if there is such a thing, and if there is what is it? Thank you
Really depends on your approach to riding. The '22 CRF250F is a very fun bike for anyone and super easy maintenance and will last a long time. The '22 CRF250R is a full on high performance race machine designed to go fast around a motocross track - not for putting around in the woods. See if you can bum a ride on a friend's dirt bike and see what matches your interest and skill level.
@@mxengineer1
OK wasn’t sure if there’s a different type of bike for trails, Suspension, chassis, etc. Verses one for track. Of course I would like better suspension. But do not need a race bike.
Klx300r
Finally Honda Blue/Red. 👏
I agree!
First time I have seen a good rider on the 250f, pretty cool. I wish I got the r model but I’m stuck with the F lol
The CRF250F is a very fun bike!
@@mxengineer1 it definitely is! How much faster does the R feel?
@@W.M_MotorSport A lot faster - more power and about 30 lbs lighter combine to make the R feel much more responsive though still easy to ride
How u like it ?
@@mxengineer1 is the r gold for trail ? And dessert terrain ?
Think an average C rider could be competitive on the 250f?
The '22 CRF250F is a capable and easy to ride bike with a broad usable power range and solid handling characteristics. However a rider of similar skill on a '22 CRF250R which is 30+ lbs lighter and makes twice the power is going to have a significant performance advantage. For me that added up to about 14 seconds faster lap time on a short woods loop. I would assume you would go faster on the CRF250R too! Some people say dirt bike riding is 85% rider and 15% bike....that is probably true as most times a highly skilled fast rider on a slow bike will beat a slow rider on a fast bike! Depending on the type of riding and racing you are doing a CRF250F might be a fun bike to race!
@@mxengineer1 totally agree with the 85/15% rule . Many times I’m only 10 seconds slower than the next guy on a bike that’s double the cost of my bike .
Could I buy a plastic kit for a 2022 honda crf250r and put it on a 2022 honda crf250f?
They are completely different frames and plastic so I do not think it would work without a lot of modifications and fabrication.
Just got my 22 250F home from the dealer I am I'm Canada so going to be some months until I can take her on the maiden voyage!
New rider, kind of wish I ponied up for the big bike but don't think I'll be doing any jumping for a long time and hopefully the bike can take some of it when that time comes
Enjoy your new Honda...maybe ride in the snow! Ride Red!
Hey man, once you feel up for trying those jumps there are some spring options for the 250f that make it work better.
@@wanvaldez wait which ones
@@wanvaldez please elaborate:)
Wich is the best for wheeling ?
Both are good wheelies bikes...I think the CRF250R is a little easier for me!
Unless someone is racing for a living it's hard to justify and extra $3300 for only 14 seconds on a recreational vehicle. Was the 2:35 lap not fun enough?
Nice that Honda gives us choices in 250F dirt bikes and both put a big smile on my face when I ride them!
Have you had a chance to ride the 2021 KX250 yet?
I have not had the opportunity to ride a '21 or '22 KX250 though I did get to ride a new '22 KX450SR!
@@mxengineer1 I really enjoyed watching your videos. Thank you for the reply.
@@morrisboyracing7696 Thanks!
I have a crf 250f and a yz250 and although it lacks some power in comparison it is such a fun bike the only thing I don’t like is how low I sit on it I’m 185 lbs and 6 ft tall and I feel like the suspension is so low
Yes the suspension travel on the CRF250F is quite a bit less than your YZ250. Honda targeted a lower seat height. I wonder how much better the stock CRF250F suspension would work for faster riders with just stiffer springs?
@@mxengineer1 I believe the rear shock is adjustable so I was going to bring it in and have it raised I’m just not sure how that will effect the overall ride
@@mxengineer1 also, great video brother ride safe
@@lucaslaroche2246 I believe there is some kind of preload adjustability on the rear shock spring so making it stiffer will make the rear ride a little higher which steepens the head angle a little - perhaps quicker steering feel?
@@lucaslaroche2246 Thank you! I rode this '22 CRF250F again last night - will post another ride video soon on this bike
No tenes en cuenta que a la 230 no podras mejorar mucho el tiempo. En cambio la 250 le queda mucha potencia por entregar y puedes mejorar mucho el tiempo
Just wish the F had better suspension..engine will go forever where the R will need freshened up more often...like to see adj Yamaha style suspension on the F like the Ttr. Great bike though but I still prefer a 99 to 03 XR 250...they were the bomb.
Yes the air cooled 250F engine in a more moto capable (adjustable suspension) chassis would be a fun bike. I really enjoyed the last Honda XR250/400's very good bikes - last forever.
@@mxengineer1 my 2018 230f has nearly 1600hrs on the original motor! It's starting to use oil now but still runs like a clock!
@@shanestirling3535 Wow! That is Honda quality!! So do you have an hour meter or speedometer on your CRF230F? At 18mph average that would be 28,800 miles...that is a lot of riding!
I have the 250F and put the upgraded front and rear springs from BBR on it and it has made a notable difference.
@@wanvaldez Good to know!
I’m 5”11 do you think I’ll fit a 250
Your height seems enough to reach the ground flat footed but best for you to go to a Honda dealer and check for yourself how comfortable you feel on the bike.
I want a 300cc 4 valve, air cooled engine on an aluminum frame with fully adjustable racing suspension. That would be my dream bike... but I'm just dreaming right?
1979 Kawasaki KLX250 was an air cooled 250F engine in a close to moto chassis! The 1996 Honda XR400 had adjustable suspension but a steel frame that was more off road focused. Air cooled engines in a full on moto frame are custom builds today.
@@mxengineer1 yup... I love my crf450x chassis, and I love the bullet proof nature of the Honda air cooled motors. I wish they would combine them. Maybe someday I'll try to make my own.
Trail bike vs race bike!
Yep - just a fun back to back comparison
10.7.22 no ww3
for trail riding and playing 7% slower for half the maintance and price take the f
Interesting take on these bikes....I like you logic!
Was I the only one thinking about the other bike left alone and been stolen whilst he was riding???
Bikes getting stolen is not good. We are riding at a buddy's private farm so and I had some friends around keeping an eye on the bikes while I was riding each one!
Im 1.69cm which one the best?
I assume you mean 1.69M tall? The CRF250F seat height is much lower than the CRF250R seat height - maybe better for shorter riders?
@@mxengineer1 thanks so much
@@mxengineer1 CRF 250f now price?
@@user-ll2mi5td3s In the US the base price 2024 CRF250F MSRP is $4999 while the 2024 CRF250R is $8299
I’m in Ohio too
O-H...I-O!
Me 2
MX bike is 8.3% faster than the trail bike. 155 secs / 169 secs = 91.7%
Nice! How much is going 8.3% faster worth!!!
reappearance of the 250
This video was from a ride back in September in warmer weather (21F today in Ohio!)....my CRF250R now has a new home with a buddy in Maryland
Always in Ohio
Sometimes Pennsylvania;)
@@mxengineer1 haha I ended up buying a 2023 Crf250F. I went with my buddy this past weekend to buy his crf450xr and I saw that they had 1 250f left so. Well.. we left with two bikes that day
@@jacobbrown3097 Congratulations on your new Honda CRF250F! Very cool!