@@taylor7264agreed they are all great, but bontempts goes wild sometimes 🤣 seems like it happens every week at this point. but don’t get it twisted, he is the man! the dynamic between him and windy makes the whole pod. wouldn’t want bontempts any other way, seems like a good guy and it makes for amazing TV - but he definetely has quirky and wild takes on a lot of topics 🤣
I think a best duos to build around is a fun conversation. A good in-depth discussion of how players that are not on the same team could perform together would be interesting.
@@kohsmoger1567 okay but bro led the playoffs in steals and defense can be tough it’s about want and effort so Luka knows that’s his only flaw so yes I’m taking Luka Da Don 🐐🐐🪄
@@kohsmoger1567 If you still believe the BS narrative that Luka has no defense, you’re a complete casual and a ESPN takes merchant! You saw the worst version of Luka in the finals, dont let ESPN fool you. Luka’s injuries got too much so he had to rely on team defense instead of 1v1 for two reasons: a. to conserve energy for facilitating offense and scoring b. that was their gameplan the whole playoffs is to lure the attacker to the help defender so naturally he’ll let em blowby and switch to the other player. I suggest you watch a yt channel called "Awful Coaching” where he had a couple videos praising and analyzing Lukas defense during the OKC/Clippers series and Mavs strategy into winning games. As someone who watched full mavs games all season Luka is "GOOD” at defense this season and oftentimes a GREAT defender when he really tries. Stats show you he was a good defender all season. If you watch Mavs Ball yk He was playing the best defense of his life this season and in the playoffs, specifically Clippers/OKC series that guys were shooting 2/17 fg when guarded by Luka. He had a great all around defensive year before he got injured right before the playoffs and you can tell it just got too much in the Finals that he had to take painkiller injections before each game. He needed to conserve energy more than ever to make the injury bearable, also to facilitate and score cuz all of a sudden no one can. He had to rely on team defense but Boston was just too good and they lost. If Dallas had faced a team like the 2023 heat and not a superteam they would’ve won! But they lost so the narrative shifted again and just blame it all on Lukas defense cause thats easy right, when his literal teammates couldn’t make shots to save their lives and most of em choked! All I can say to all Ignorants out there is to expect a more focused and determined Healthy Luka at both defense & offense next season
@@UTube-gs1yfSGA gotta win for that be the case what I think separates them is SGA consistency and his foul baiting nature while on the contrary Tatum rarely gets calls considering his superstar status
@@UTube-gs1yfif Tatum has always had great teams around him, him averaging 30 surrounded by talent is wildly more impressive than shai doing it. Beyond that, Tatum is a better post player, passer, rebounder and defender. It feels like everyone is enamored by shai because he’s new on the big stage and Tatum has been doing it for the better part of a decade now
@@UTube-gs1yfSGA has more talent if not equal to Boston. Cpaul helped shai get better too so thats dumb stance. Jaylen brown takes away from Tatum in fga & pts yet Tatum still gets good numbers. I think they're even skill wise but Tatum has been further in postseason now champ. SGA has alot of help and future Draft picks on the way. Let's see him do that on wizards team cuz JT would do fine there.
I think Tatum is being extremely disrespected. Not just every player leads their team in every statistical category while winning a title and being on the first team all nba.
Joker-1 Luka-2 Wemby-3 Interchange wemby and luka if you really want im happy either way but joker has proven it luka and wemby are yet to prove it especially wemby theres a lot of hope and promise with him but one bad injury could really destroy his body type
Nope. Jokic needs way more help than Luka. Jokic can’t win with Murray, Gordon, and MPJ alone. He needs all that plus KCP and Bruce Brown. Imagine if Luka had Murray, Gordon, and MPJ as teammates. Luka also dominated the wolves who beat the nuggets. Jokic also stole 2 mvps from Luka (2022 and 2024) Luka has made more 1st teams than jokic even though he’s younger. It’s laughable to compare jokic at age 25 to Luka at age 25 lol
To much injury risk for my liking. Give me Luka(already took his team to the nba finals on one leg) or ANT over him. If you guarantee he will stay healthy when needed the most then the choice is obvious. But he likely won’t due to history
@@afifsamirnasreddine3768 Guys his size. And I know what your angle is going to be that we’ve never seen someone exactly like him. I am completely bought in to him as a talent but I am more conservative and sensitive to potential injury risk for someone of his build. I’ll take the safer bets. Luka can get injured but has recovered and come back stronger everytime. We don’t know how someone with the build of wemby will come back when an inevitable injury hits him like most athletes eventually deal with.
For me it’s kind of crazy calling Tatum a “second tier star” when he’s been a guy that averages 30, when he is a wayyy better defender than most on the list, when he’s already got a ring and has been every year in deep playoff runs, like I don’t know if I am just high on Tatum or everyone is just jumping on the hate bandwagon
They’re overreacting to his shooting slump, and even then despite the shooting slump he’s one of 6 players to lead his team in points rebounds and assists en route to a championship
The thing that elevates him, is also the thing that holds him back. He has a great team around him, making it so that he's able to make deep playoff runs, but it also means sacrificing his stats. From a pure talent perspective, I think Tatum is in the first tier, but he can be inconsistent which is a hurdle for him cementing himself there. I do think that he needs to get off-season surgery for his wrist though, he mentioned that it was fractured before, I would assume that's probably what's hampering him for his consistency.
Bro please stop hyping this dude up! lol i guess Luka has retired, Luka is all around a better player and a bigger prodigy then wemby. To say he's the greatest defender of all time just because he's super tall and blocks shots? There's more to defending than blocking shots. Luka is the greatest young player of this generation and there's no debate.
Let’s see who wins more championships lol spurs got better this offseason getting the point guard who will lock Luka up for the rest of his life and Chris Paul to mentor him, meanwhile mavericks got worse with klay he better win it this year cuz after that it’s all wemby and the spurs with the hawks draft picks smartest franchise in the nba
Man are you thick… The 25 year old is currently better than the 20 year old? WOW, shocking. The question is who do you want to start a franchise with - meaning who do you want for the next 8, 10 (or more) years. That is not even a contest. 1) Wemby is already awesome, at 20 (like Luka was). He’s a game changer right now. 2) His ceiling is as high or higher than any player in history. That is not an exaggeration. He has the potential to be (easily) the best defender in the league and a top 5 offensive player at the same time, and to do so in his early 20s. 3) Luka is one of the best offensive players I’ve ever seen, but will never be even a top 40 defender. Defense is literally half the game. 4) Contracts really matter, especially with the new CBA. Wemby is locked in to a rookie contract for the next 3 years, while Luka is making >$40 mil and will likely get a supermax extension as soon as he’s eligible (literally next offseason). Under the new CBA, having multiple players making the supermax will make it very hard to build a team without filling it out with bargain basement salaries. Having 3 more years before you have to pay Wemby the Supermax is extraordinarily valuable to a franchise because it allows them far more firepower and flexibility to add big time pieces around him. It also means that his supermax would hit its highest numbers as the new TV deal money balloons the salary cap, meaning that it will be easier to retain the other expensive talent you add around him than it would be if it started earlier. This really isn’t a contest. Wemby is by far the best answer for starting a franchise.
As Spurs fan, the best realistic scenario I have for this season: -Spurs are a lot more competitive, don't quite make the play-in -Castle shows real potential for a rookie PG. He will get a lot of time at that role with CP3 not playing a full season/30+ minutes a game -Wemby cuts down turnovers and starts to hone in on his 2 or 3 pet moved -Spurs get THREE lottery picks (Spurs, Hawks, Bulls) that they can trade for a superstar level player, develop, or both depending where those lotto picks are
@@murdabeatz4252 100% literally plays 1-5 on defense. 1-4 on offense. its fascinating how much he bothers ppl. his resume is so impressive folks doing mental gymnastics to discredit him smh
@@murdabeatz4252 Dude is the most overrated POS of all time. Kerr proved hes not a top 10 player. Hes barely top 15. Funny how rent free he lives in Mama Tabum wannabes delusional heads lol
Awesome player. Here's what Luka has done by age 25: NBA Finalist (2024) 5× NBA All-Star (2020-2024) 5× All-NBA First Team (2020-2024) NBA Rookie of the Year (2019) NBA scoring champion (2024) All-FIBA World Cup Team (2023) All-EuroBasket Team (2017) EuroLeague champion (2018) EuroLeague MVP (2018) EuroLeague Final Four MVP (2018) EuroLeague 2010-20 All-Decade Team (2020) 3× Liga ACB champion (2015, 2016, 2018) Liga ACB MVP (2018) FIBA Intercontinental Cup champion (2015)
@JERWINIVANCORBETA old but still true. is this about Luka or Luka playing with Kyrie? He's still slow and lazy on defense. Not a GOAT candidate til he's dominant on both sides of the court
Yeah when you have embiid and giannis that high I laugh cause giannis is gonna age poorly as he gets banged up and is surrounded by bad defenders with the milage on his body and embiid is always hurt...jokic went a hair too high for me as well
@@alexgalarza6908 the Celtics won despite Tatum...... You could've swapped him with 15-20 other players and they still win. Lmaooo Like I said, "Constantly"-- He had a historically bad shooting performance in BACK TO BACK FINALS then followed it up by going 0/16 in the Olympics. YOU get the fck out of here with your hurt and delusional @ss. 🤣
It's a great list. I think Jaylen Brown deserves a mention. He was finals MVP on the championship team. He's a better defender than Booker and Brunson.
@@carter5377Booker has been the best player on an NBA finals team, and a team that won 64 games. There’s more of an argument that he’s too low on this last than an argument he shouldn’t be on it
@MrShaad316 I was thinking of KD, lol. Booker had one good year as far as playoffs go. Fluke year. He's been a first - or 2nd round exit every other year. He's a great 2nd option. Defenses have been picking him apart in the playoffs since then. The Dallas series is a perfect example. As soon as they figured out all they needed to do is trap him and CP3, the series was a blowout. He's a worse Ray Allen. There is nothing wrong with being a 2nd option in the NBA, but no one is picking him to build their franchise around in a draft style like this.
I would def take Doncic over Wemby. Wemby will be a great, great defensive player. But Luka is one of the best offensive engines this league has seen already. And that end of the floor is just more important
It’s so hilarious how these bozos swear Tatum is not in the elite group of players yet he wins more than all them bums and I don’t wanna hear about team because Tatum has had a different roster every single year of his career and still was one of the last teams standing and they suck when Tatum is not on the court every year and name one of these other players that don’t have a great team around them lmao
@@billybangs oh yea I already know he’s a Tatum hater because we always smoke he beloved Embiid/ 76ers im more so talking about McMahon because he’s salty that the Celtics fan killed him when he said “Ant is way better than Tatum” glazing ant after like 4 good playoffs games lmao and he’s been wrong ever since plus we was right about…Basically the whole season so he’s extra salty about Tatum’s chip
No sense if you do not define the criteria for the Franchise - as TB points out time horizon is key and with it the potential for growth of the player vs decline rate . For me, if i was starting to a franchise I would want the guy with the best potential who was under 22 and that would be Wemby not just because of the growth in physical talent but also his mindset. Happy if I had Luka but there are others that I would likely pick ahead of him as each person /GM will give different weights to different skills including their view of non- physical matters
@@Azhmatazh22 You're a blinded celtics fanboy than, Luka is 99999999% better, so is Embib, so is Joker, so is Gianiss.. Get that JT d!ck out of your mouth.
Before I get destroyed for this the question is who should you build your franchise around Tatum has won a chip and been to the finals and conference finals more then any of these guys he got drafted a year before luka and the spurs won the same amount of games pre and post wemby
Tatum leads celtics to the finals with one of the best regular and post season records ever in nba history...then the collective states "he didn't have a great post season run, he's not in the top tier of guys." This is when I turn it off and listen to the pros content.
There's levels to superstars. Tatum's a top-10 player in the league, which is obviously elite, but there's a number of guys that you can confidently say that are better than him (Jokic, Luka, Embiid, Giannis, etc.). Obviously the Celtics postseason record is incredible in a vacuum, and not to take anything away from them, but it came against the weakest Eastern Conference in perhaps the last 10-15 years. Not to mention Tatum wasn't even the best player on the Celtics in that run. Tatum v. Ant is certainly closer than you might think. Although Tatum has the edge today, he's also had the benefit of playing on vastly superior teams than Ant over the course of his career
@@cameronkelly8258 these guys are pros but you have to remember who they wrk for. the celtics fanbase bating drives engagement and espn bet earnings... 90% of the bets placed on espnbet were for the mavs in the finals yet boston was still favored at -210. that means that they were CERTAIN the celtics would win otherwise they would've risked a devastating loss n therefore wouldve adjusted their odds (even more). no way espn talking heads couldve influenced the betting action right???? 👀 they also forget rookie jason tatum took bron to 7 games in the ecf with a starting 5 of: 1. 3rd yr terry rozier 2. 4th yr marcus smart 3. soph yr jaylen brown 4. rookie jayson tatum 5. al horford not exactly the superteam ppl keep telling us he needs to win at a high level
not sure why noone picked jalen brunson, 27 yrs old all nba top 5 mvp voting led a team with everyone injured to game 7 of the 2nd rd with 3 straight 40 pt games in the playoffs
Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond. 7"4 1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36) 2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24) 3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents) 4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31) 5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33) 7"5 1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21) 2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34) 7"6 1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30) 2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32) 3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26) 7"7 1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33) 2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29) Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory. James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP. Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯💯
@@Sir-Seaniel The Tabum Glaze is Insane. GOAT Coach Kerr proved that Tabum isnt even top 10. Hes barely top 15. Hes overrared AF by delusional Stans in severe denial pf reality Cry harder, Mama Tabum
I can’t believe Brian still does not understand the order of a 3 person serpentine draft. They do these types of drafts between the 3 of them at least twice a year. I’ve been waiting for 2 going on 3 years now. Brian is not a meme, stop trolling us we know you understand the snake draft
@@jacobchambers7201 Thats a good lil doggy Now go play with your little Burner Bros, Mama Tabum April 17, 2017 THE JIG IS UP!!! CHECKMATE!!! Jaylen Brown 4 LIFE!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☘️☘️☘️☘️
Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond. 7"4 1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36) 2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24) 3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents) 4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31) 5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33) 7"5 1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21) 2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34) 7"6 1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30) 2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32) 3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26) 7"7 1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33) 2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29) Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory. James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP. Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
this is a terrible n biased take. he was not great in the clutch last yr. steph, sga, brunson, trae, dame, hali, dmitch were all significantly better in terms of production and efficiency victors jersey (#4 top selling jersey) sold more than lukas (#6) last yr too. victors already a bigger draw than luka and hes a rookie on a terrible team with a fraction of the national tv games that all the other top guys get. for victor its only up from here
I wouldn’t say should but for me he would be but I’m a Mavs fan so I’m bias but Wemby would be my sure fire number 2 and in a few years would be number 1.
@@ILLWill1027 feel you bro id take tatum first n wemby 2nd. i too am biased but my tatum reasoning is that his skillset makes it easier to build winning rosters v giannis/jokic/luka/ jts a versatile two-way guy that can adjust his role to fit the personnel a team is able to put around him. where as all those other guys have pretty significant deficiencies you have to account for when constructing a roster
@@taylor7264he wasn’t great in the clutch last year because he was on a top 5 injury riddled team with trashy spacing and only got the defensive pieces every other contender had at the deadline. As soon as Luka got DECENT help he took his team to the finals 😂
@@victorvic4659 i hear you. thats reasonable logic. we'll see what happens but sga out played luka in last yrs post szn and the thunder have a much better roster construction w a ton of young talent who i think we all expect to have a pretty steep learning curve...n by the ock is fully mature and had their run victor will be in his prime at which point i see him being by far the most dominant force in the league - not all "best in the worlds" are created equal
@@taylor7264 do you know that Luka and Lively are younger than Shai/Chet. I understand "young Okc" narrative but check Mavs rotation. Only 3 players that are older than 30 years old. This team,at least for next 2-3 years is primed for success
Thank you to Steve Kerr, Grant Hill, team USA, and all major media outlets for continuously downplaying and disrespecting Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum & my Boston Celtics. Sincerely, thank you keep it up. We are going to dominate the league again this year and we will secure banner 19 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
The reason Tatum is so low is he’s consistent as the guys above him in the playoffs????? The only person that argument makes sense for is jokic and giannis(if he even makes it) stupidest take ever
No Donovan Mitchell the guy hasn’t done anything but lead two different teams to the playoffs every year he’s been in the league one of those teams was in the almighty western conference
Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond. 7"4 1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36) 2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24) 3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents) 4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31) 5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33) 7"5 1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21) 2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34) 7"6 1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30) 2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32) 3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26) 7"7 1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33) 2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29) Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory. James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP. Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
The Thunder Built a team around SGA he’s been cooking for a few years now and was second in MVP votes double check that and Ant hell yea can sell seats and is crazy nice and can defend they gone build around Ant and trade KAT watch but your right about Tatum
The Jayson Tatum takes are so brain dead. “He didn’t have a good playoffs” ok then why is he the sixth player ever to lead his team in points, assists, and rebounds in a championship run? The other guys to do it are all time greats: Lebron, Hakeem, Bird, Jokic, and Duncan. How can he be carried by his superteam (of two all stars and one all-NBA guy, himself, by the way) if he led them in points, rebounds, and assists?? Make it make sense man
We get that but Tatum is the 8-9th best player in the league bro a second tier star he got a ring with a great team if it wasn’t for brown wouldn’t have a ring
38 pct fg in the Finals yet he took wayyyy more shots than any of his teammates because hes an empty stat padding ballhog ala WestBRICK in his trip doub days Cry harder, Mama Tabum. Your boy was the 11th man for Team USA. GOAT Coach Kerr exposed the Overrated primadonna 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Luka doncic is the only answer as 1st pick Learned that y’all don’t know ball 😂wow Jokic won mvp at 6 seed he doesn’t need to win media like y’all just don’t have eyes apparently when it comes to voting
@@ilovekaiyko Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond. 7"4 1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36) 2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24) 3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents) 4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31) 5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33) 7"5 1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21) 2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34) 7"6 1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30) 2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32) 3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26) 7"7 1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33) 2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29) Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory. James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP. Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
Since McMahon reads these comments, I'm going to keep mentioning Nebraskan things for McMahon to tease Windy about. Windy, does he like or ove Runza? Inquiring Nebraskans want to know.
@@Neofilmcriticyou're projecting the next 10 years with a franchise if you were to start one today. While it's an overly played joke about his love of horses, as a native from Denver, even I must admit Jokic is probably the first to retire out of all these top considerations
1. Luka 2. Wemby 3. SGA Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond. 7"4 1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36) 2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24) 3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents) 4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31) 5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33) 7"5 1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21) 2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34) 7"6 1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30) 2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32) 3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26) 7"7 1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33) 2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29) Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory. James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP. Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond. 7"4 1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36) 2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24) 3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents) 4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31) 5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33) 7"5 1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21) 2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34) 7"6 1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30) 2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32) 3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26) 7"7 1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33) 2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29) Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory. James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP. Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
Macmahon coward for not picking Luka, your not Welcome in Dallas
Who cares?!
He still mad Luka called him out for his BS that one time at a presser after a game 😂😂🤣
@@BabylonGateLA you do, you commented re ta rd🤡
Bontemps just casually started his own TED talk
what a quirky guy! 😂
its almost like he is part of a pod and get paid for that. Lmao get outta here the hate is insane. Man is espn's number 2.
@@johnmcm7690 love all these guys ! bontems on his own timing tho sometimes lol
A pretty bad one at that
@@taylor7264agreed they are all great, but bontempts goes wild sometimes 🤣 seems like it happens every week at this point. but don’t get it twisted, he is the man! the dynamic between him and windy makes the whole pod. wouldn’t want bontempts any other way, seems like a good guy and it makes for amazing TV - but he definetely has quirky and wild takes on a lot of topics 🤣
Luka is the best player. Period.
Y’all want Tatum to be top 3 sooooo bad 🤣🤣🤣
Is this the conversation???? Or player to build around??
Luka all day every day of the week
I think a best duos to build around is a fun conversation.
A good in-depth discussion of how players that are not on the same team could perform together would be interesting.
Wemby and Doncic would be the best.
@@JimBrave-ri1oc That's a good start.
Doncic all day for me
If all you care about is one side of the basketball sure.
@@kohsmoger1567 okay but bro led the playoffs in steals and defense can be tough it’s about want and effort so Luka knows that’s his only flaw so yes I’m taking Luka Da Don 🐐🐐🪄
@@kohsmoger1567 If you still believe the BS narrative that Luka has no defense, you’re a complete casual and a ESPN takes merchant! You saw the worst version of Luka in the finals, dont let ESPN fool you. Luka’s injuries got too much so he had to rely on team defense instead of 1v1 for two reasons: a. to conserve energy for facilitating offense and scoring b. that was their gameplan the whole playoffs is to lure the attacker to the help defender so naturally he’ll let em blowby and switch to the other player. I suggest you watch a yt channel called "Awful Coaching” where he had a couple videos praising and analyzing Lukas defense during the OKC/Clippers series and Mavs strategy into winning games. As someone who watched full mavs games all season Luka is "GOOD” at defense this season and oftentimes a GREAT defender when he really tries. Stats show you he was a good defender all season. If you watch Mavs Ball yk He was playing the best defense of his life this season and in the playoffs, specifically Clippers/OKC series that guys were shooting 2/17 fg when guarded by Luka. He had a great all around defensive year before he got injured right before the playoffs and you can tell it just got too much in the Finals that he had to take painkiller injections before each game. He needed to conserve energy more than ever to make the injury bearable, also to facilitate and score cuz all of a sudden no one can. He had to rely on team defense but Boston was just too good and they lost. If Dallas had faced a team like the 2023 heat and not a superteam they would’ve won! But they lost so the narrative shifted again and just blame it all on Lukas defense cause thats easy right, when his literal teammates couldn’t make shots to save their lives and most of em choked! All I can say to all Ignorants out there is to expect a more focused and determined Healthy Luka at both defense & offense next season
The guy that cost his team the title? Haha Celtics pick on him over and over again until he quit. Casuals thinks only one side of the ball matters.
So you're just ignoring steph and jokic@@kohsmoger1567
I’ll keep asking, what has Shai done to be ranked so significantly higher than Tatum?? Same age, almost no playoff experience
Buckets. Every which way humanly possible.
Tatum had great teams around him. Real good player, but not on SGA's level now.
@@UTube-gs1yfSGA gotta win for that be the case what I think separates them is SGA consistency and his foul baiting nature while on the contrary Tatum rarely gets calls considering his superstar status
@@UTube-gs1yfif Tatum has always had great teams around him, him averaging 30 surrounded by talent is wildly more impressive than shai doing it.
Beyond that, Tatum is a better post player, passer, rebounder and defender. It feels like everyone is enamored by shai because he’s new on the big stage and Tatum has been doing it for the better part of a decade now
@@UTube-gs1yf bro stfu mf talking about buckets this aint the park this the NBA
@@UTube-gs1yfSGA has more talent if not equal to Boston. Cpaul helped shai get better too so thats dumb stance. Jaylen brown takes away from Tatum in fga & pts yet Tatum still gets good numbers. I think they're even skill wise but Tatum has been further in postseason now champ. SGA has alot of help and future Draft picks on the way. Let's see him do that on wizards team cuz JT would do fine there.
I think Tatum is being extremely disrespected. Not just every player leads their team in every statistical category while winning a title and being on the first team all nba.
He also shot the very worst percentage of anyone to win a championship.
@@Joeshiesty286he shot worst while also leading his team in every category. Y’all bums just wanna hate cuz it’s the cool summer trend.
Obviously Derrick White
Of course ☘️💯
Followed by Fred van vleet
It feels crazy to me how Giannis is still disrespected, when healthy he is pretty arguably the second best player the league
Joker-1
Luka-2
Wemby-3
Interchange wemby and luka if you really want im happy either way but joker has proven it luka and wemby are yet to prove it especially wemby theres a lot of hope and promise with him but one bad injury could really destroy his body type
Jokic can't shoot
@@sbkamara2003 tell that to the lakers
Nope. Jokic needs way more help than Luka. Jokic can’t win with Murray, Gordon, and MPJ alone. He needs all that plus KCP and Bruce Brown. Imagine if Luka had Murray, Gordon, and MPJ as teammates. Luka also dominated the wolves who beat the nuggets. Jokic also stole 2 mvps from Luka (2022 and 2024) Luka has made more 1st teams than jokic even though he’s younger. It’s laughable to compare jokic at age 25 to Luka at age 25 lol
Victor Wembanyama
Nah
To much injury risk for my liking. Give me Luka(already took his team to the nba finals on one leg) or ANT over him. If you guarantee he will stay healthy when needed the most then the choice is obvious. But he likely won’t due to history
@@hobowithagun24What's his injury history?
@@afifsamirnasreddine3768 Guys his size. And I know what your angle is going to be that we’ve never seen someone exactly like him. I am completely bought in to him as a talent but I am more conservative and sensitive to potential injury risk for someone of his build. I’ll take the safer bets. Luka can get injured but has recovered and come back stronger everytime. We don’t know how someone with the build of wemby will come back when an inevitable injury hits him like most athletes eventually deal with.
@@hobowithagun24Jokic...proven winner.
Anthony Edwards. 5ive is the 5ace of the NBA 🐜
Can we get limited bontemps takes, thank you!
For me it’s kind of crazy calling Tatum a “second tier star” when he’s been a guy that averages 30, when he is a wayyy better defender than most on the list, when he’s already got a ring and has been every year in deep playoff runs, like I don’t know if I am just high on Tatum or everyone is just jumping on the hate bandwagon
The talent around the league is just that good.
Found the Celtics fan
@@natedunn3933that doesn't change anything the comment said lmao
They’re overreacting to his shooting slump, and even then despite the shooting slump he’s one of 6 players to lead his team in points rebounds and assists en route to a championship
The thing that elevates him, is also the thing that holds him back. He has a great team around him, making it so that he's able to make deep playoff runs, but it also means sacrificing his stats. From a pure talent perspective, I think Tatum is in the first tier, but he can be inconsistent which is a hurdle for him cementing himself there. I do think that he needs to get off-season surgery for his wrist though, he mentioned that it was fractured before, I would assume that's probably what's hampering him for his consistency.
Bro please stop hyping this dude up! lol i guess Luka has retired, Luka is all around a better player and a bigger prodigy then wemby. To say he's the greatest defender of all time just because he's super tall and blocks shots? There's more to defending than blocking shots. Luka is the greatest young player of this generation and there's no debate.
The main thing about Defense is Blocking Their Shot.
Fr😂💯
Let’s see who wins more championships lol spurs got better this offseason getting the point guard who will lock Luka up for the rest of his life and Chris Paul to mentor him, meanwhile mavericks got worse with klay he better win it this year cuz after that it’s all wemby and the spurs with the hawks draft picks smartest franchise in the nba
@@JERWINIVANCORBETA biggest luka nut rider ive ever seen. under every comment
Man are you thick…
The 25 year old is currently better than the 20 year old? WOW, shocking.
The question is who do you want to start a franchise with - meaning who do you want for the next 8, 10 (or more) years. That is not even a contest.
1) Wemby is already awesome, at 20 (like Luka was). He’s a game changer right now.
2) His ceiling is as high or higher than any player in history. That is not an exaggeration. He has the potential to be (easily) the best defender in the league and a top 5 offensive player at the same time, and to do so in his early 20s.
3) Luka is one of the best offensive players I’ve ever seen, but will never be even a top 40 defender. Defense is literally half the game.
4) Contracts really matter, especially with the new CBA. Wemby is locked in to a rookie contract for the next 3 years, while Luka is making >$40 mil and will likely get a supermax extension as soon as he’s eligible (literally next offseason). Under the new CBA, having multiple players making the supermax will make it very hard to build a team without filling it out with bargain basement salaries. Having 3 more years before you have to pay Wemby the Supermax is extraordinarily valuable to a franchise because it allows them far more firepower and flexibility to add big time pieces around him. It also means that his supermax would hit its highest numbers as the new TV deal money balloons the salary cap, meaning that it will be easier to retain the other expensive talent you add around him than it would be if it started earlier.
This really isn’t a contest. Wemby is by far the best answer for starting a franchise.
As Spurs fan, the best realistic scenario I have for this season:
-Spurs are a lot more competitive, don't quite make the play-in
-Castle shows real potential for a rookie PG. He will get a lot of time at that role with CP3 not playing a full season/30+ minutes a game
-Wemby cuts down turnovers and starts to hone in on his 2 or 3 pet moved
-Spurs get THREE lottery picks (Spurs, Hawks, Bulls) that they can trade for a superstar level player, develop, or both depending where those lotto picks are
tatum is low maintenance n also an ironman
Tabum is a high maintenance primadonna PUNK
Just ask GOAT Coach Kerr
Cry harder, Mama Tabum
hes underrated at this point. 6’10 point forward who can guard centers or the perimeter on defense. funny how rent free he lives in peoples heads
@@murdabeatz4252 100% literally plays 1-5 on defense. 1-4 on offense.
its fascinating how much he bothers ppl.
his resume is so impressive folks doing mental gymnastics to discredit him smh
@@murdabeatz4252 Dude is the most overrated POS of all time. Kerr proved hes not a top 10 player. Hes barely top 15. Funny how rent free he lives in Mama Tabum wannabes delusional heads
lol
@@Nostalgia9478keep it up. this is probably what you do all day. keep entertaining me
If nobody got me I know hoop collective GOT ME
Then nobody gots you lil mane
Tatum apology tour
By laying a lot of bricks, he proved everyone right lol
Luka Doncic future GOAT
Awesome player. Here's what Luka has done by age 25:
NBA Finalist (2024)
5× NBA All-Star (2020-2024)
5× All-NBA First Team (2020-2024)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2019)
NBA scoring champion (2024)
All-FIBA World Cup Team (2023)
All-EuroBasket Team (2017)
EuroLeague champion (2018)
EuroLeague MVP (2018)
EuroLeague Final Four MVP (2018)
EuroLeague 2010-20 All-Decade Team (2020)
3× Liga ACB champion (2015, 2016, 2018)
Liga ACB MVP (2018)
FIBA Intercontinental Cup champion (2015)
Luka has the ability but he is too ball dominant and needs to drop 20 lbs so he can be better on defense
Facts💯
@@kicrockssuch an old narrative, hes sharing the ball now with kyrie amd besides them no one can playmake good enough.
@JERWINIVANCORBETA old but still true. is this about Luka or Luka playing with Kyrie? He's still slow and lazy on defense. Not a GOAT candidate til he's dominant on both sides of the court
I am easily picking Luka over wemby lol it’s not even close
Unusually silly even for the 'experts' at ESPN.
Its late August there's nothing to talk about 😆
What would you talk about Mr sports producer expert?
@@freeman0048 I have no problem with the topics. Just the conclusions.
Yeah when you have embiid and giannis that high I laugh cause giannis is gonna age poorly as he gets banged up and is surrounded by bad defenders with the milage on his body and embiid is always hurt...jokic went a hair too high for me as well
Tatum better not be in the top 5 of that list cause he's constantly shown us he's not that guy in the biggest moments. Lol
Constantly??! How many times???. He just won chip . Get the f outta hea
@@alexgalarza6908 the Celtics won despite Tatum...... You could've swapped him with 15-20 other players and they still win. Lmaooo
Like I said, "Constantly"-- He had a historically bad shooting performance in BACK TO BACK FINALS then followed it up by going 0/16 in the Olympics. YOU get the fck out of here with your hurt and delusional @ss. 🤣
Doncic , end of the discussion.
Dude can pass , rebound and shoot from anywhere.
All you need is a good #2 option and 3&D players.
Idiot doncic is trash,lazy and slow,crybaby.overated
He had that this season.
Idiot.doncic is trash,crybaby,alow
Wemby. end of discussion
Wrong
Bontemps doing Bontemps things 🤣
Tatum aint no mf 6'10'' what tf am I hearing
Bontemps second pick- names 50 players
It's a great list. I think Jaylen Brown deserves a mention. He was finals MVP on the championship team. He's a better defender than Booker and Brunson.
Booker and Brunson shouldn't even be in the conversation. They are clearly not players you can build around. They are support pieces.
@@carter5377Booker has been the best player on an NBA finals team, and a team that won 64 games. There’s more of an argument that he’s too low on this last than an argument he shouldn’t be on it
@@MrShaad316 fluke season. He's been swept in the playoffs more times than any other player I can think of.
@@carter5377 he’s been swept once lol so either he’s the only player you can think of, or you have no clue what you’re talking about
@MrShaad316 I was thinking of KD, lol. Booker had one good year as far as playoffs go. Fluke year. He's been a first - or 2nd round exit every other year. He's a great 2nd option. Defenses have been picking him apart in the playoffs since then. The Dallas series is a perfect example. As soon as they figured out all they needed to do is trap him and CP3, the series was a blowout. He's a worse Ray Allen. There is nothing wrong with being a 2nd option in the NBA, but no one is picking him to build their franchise around in a draft style like this.
My god Bontemps can be insufferable sometimes, makes for a really hard watch.
Anthony Davis is better than both Tatum and Brown!
37:35 lazy take on Tatum
Hands down. Upper echelon of podcasts ❤
Brian, I'm happy to see you are losing weight. I want you to stick around for all of us basketball folk but mainly for your family!
In your opinion Donovan Mitchell should be an honorable mention
I would def take Doncic over Wemby. Wemby will be a great, great defensive player. But Luka is one of the best offensive engines this league has seen already. And that end of the floor is just more important
You don’t know ball mate😂
SGA and Edwards above a 2 time finalist and champion Jayson Tatum. Why bother continuing with the list after Edwards
We'll keep collecting banners with our franchise player while you guys rank on hypotheticals ☘️
What about Paolo?
The disrespect Tatum gets is insane man
It’s so hilarious how these bozos swear Tatum is not in the elite group of players yet he wins more than all them bums and I don’t wanna hear about team because Tatum has had a different roster every single year of his career and still was one of the last teams standing and they suck when Tatum is not on the court every year and name one of these other players that don’t have a great team around them lmao
He's consistently wrong about the Celtics and Tatum. No point in really listening to him.
He's got 3-4 other Allstars /former Allstars.
@@billybangs oh yea I already know he’s a Tatum hater because we always smoke he beloved Embiid/ 76ers im more so talking about McMahon because he’s salty that the Celtics fan killed him when he said “Ant is way better than Tatum” glazing ant after like 4 good playoffs games lmao and he’s been wrong ever since plus we was right about…Basically the whole season so he’s extra salty about Tatum’s chip
Tatum is great but he’s not a top 5 player
@@MathewDavis-c5q sorry it’s only 2 players that can walk up to Tatum and say I’ve done more than you and that’s Giannis & Jokic
The Joker disrespect is ridiculous in these comments
Bunch of Tabum Stans hating on Joker
Smh
@@Nostalgia9478Ur literally the only person in the comments to mention tatum and it was u hating on him. u need to get ur priorities straight
@@murdabeatz4252 Keep White Knighting for your pwecious POS Tabum. You need to get your priorities straight
Cry harder, Mama Tabum
lol
The criteria was "starting a franchise", so it was only his age that was the factor.
@@murdabeatz4252bro is actually weird
Ant-man got a tremendous education this summer. Should be fun to watch the results.
No tyrese maxey? No player has improved year after year like he has. He’s the truth.
I would like this question 5 years from now. Luka has not proven he can win yet. Tatum has not hit his prime yet.
No sense if you do not define the criteria for the Franchise - as TB points out time horizon is key and with it the potential for growth of the player vs decline rate . For me, if i was starting to a franchise I would want the guy with the best potential who was under 22 and that would be Wemby not just because of the growth in physical talent but also his mindset. Happy if I had Luka but there are others that I would likely pick ahead of him as each person /GM will give different weights to different skills including their view of non- physical matters
Why the hell is Tatums face on the thumbnail of "BEST NBA Players to start a franchise with" LOLOLOLOLOL
Most playoff points ever before age 27, won a ring at age 26. Seems like a good pick to me 🤷
@@Azhmatazh22 You're a blinded celtics fanboy than, Luka is 99999999% better, so is Embib, so is Joker, so is Gianiss.. Get that JT d!ck out of your mouth.
@@Azhmatazh22 Darko Milicic was CARRIED to a bus rider ring just like Tabum.. Darko was only 21
@@Azhmatazh22 JT is garbage compared to the elites of the NBA,Luka,Giannis,Embid,Joker, hell even ANT is better.
@@RankerTossBosss funny thing is Tatum had a winning record in the playoffs against all them except Jokic and Ant 😂😂😂
MacMahon should picked Chet for the second pick
Booker and edwards????? They can score but what else????
They are both excellent defenders when they can commit their energy to it.
34-10-9. Enuff said "Luka!!!"
Scores 34 and gives up 45. enuff said
@@demarcuscousins8320Yeah, enough said on your part, now you can see that you know nothing about basketball.
@@zoranmarkovic1123your last name ends with “ic”. opinion automatically invalid
@@demarcuscousins8320 Your chauvinism says it all.
@@zoranmarkovic1123 ur right. that was a bad joke, sorry man
I love coming to the comments and seeing how everyone just complains about how annoying and abrasive Bontemps is 😂😂😂
Before I get destroyed for this the question is who should you build your franchise around Tatum has won a chip and been to the finals and conference finals more then any of these guys he got drafted a year before luka and the spurs won the same amount of games pre and post wemby
Edwards over Tatum? Really?
Tatum leads celtics to the finals with one of the best regular and post season records ever in nba history...then the collective states "he didn't have a great post season run, he's not in the top tier of guys." This is when I turn it off and listen to the pros content.
There's levels to superstars. Tatum's a top-10 player in the league, which is obviously elite, but there's a number of guys that you can confidently say that are better than him (Jokic, Luka, Embiid, Giannis, etc.).
Obviously the Celtics postseason record is incredible in a vacuum, and not to take anything away from them, but it came against the weakest Eastern Conference in perhaps the last 10-15 years. Not to mention Tatum wasn't even the best player on the Celtics in that run.
Tatum v. Ant is certainly closer than you might think. Although Tatum has the edge today, he's also had the benefit of playing on vastly superior teams than Ant over the course of his career
@@cameronkelly8258 these guys are pros but you have to remember who they wrk for. the celtics fanbase bating drives engagement and espn bet earnings...
90% of the bets placed on espnbet were for the mavs in the finals yet boston was still favored at -210. that means that they were CERTAIN the celtics would win otherwise they would've risked a devastating loss n therefore wouldve adjusted their odds (even more). no way espn talking heads couldve influenced the betting action right???? 👀
they also forget rookie jason tatum took bron to 7 games in the ecf with a starting 5 of:
1. 3rd yr terry rozier
2. 4th yr marcus smart
3. soph yr jaylen brown
4. rookie jayson tatum
5. al horford
not exactly the superteam ppl keep telling us he needs to win at a high level
Tabum isnt even top 10 in the league. Hes barely a top 15 player
Jaylen Brown is top 8
@@jgates9786Tabum isnt top 10. Hes barely top 15
Bossy Bontemps this episode, I love when they get a little zesty.
So Tatum is 7-10 but ant is top 3? Lmaooooo come on man
Mac should have said "for zhe long haul" in a thick French accent. As a Frenchmen, I would have loved it
not sure why noone picked jalen brunson, 27 yrs old all nba top 5 mvp voting led a team with everyone injured to game 7 of the 2nd rd with 3 straight 40 pt games in the playoffs
@@Stevesspeaks Because hes like 6’0 tall 😔 nah jokes aside, i think he lowkey could have peaked already last season. hope im wrong !
they answered this question in the pod. if youre gonna stand up for your guy at least come w some counterpoints!
Who needs a franchise player if he can't deliver a chip. Last time I checked it was Tatum who delivered.
I say thanis his bag deep af fr and he a locker room guy he gets you motivated
Honestly two other names I would add here are Jalen Williams and Sengun.
Shaq for me ALWAYS! No one could defend him!
Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond.
7"4
1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36)
2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24)
3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents)
4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31)
5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33)
7"5
1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21)
2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34)
7"6
1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30)
2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32)
3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26)
7"7
1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33)
2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29)
Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory.
James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP
Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP.
Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc.
He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯💯
How many times will you copy and paste the same comment?
Showing your age young fella
@@christopheb.6121does that supposed to weaken my argument?😂🫵
@@unconditionalLove1showing my age? Ok oldfart, how am i wrong? 😂🫵🥜🧠
@@JERWINIVANCORBETA ill help you out. swap out “does” with “is”.
Bontemps got robbed of a pick. He should have been after Windy if its a snake. Instead he got passed up and didn’t get two in a row.
Gotta go with SGA
The Tatum disrespect is insaaaane. I can’t STAND when people put sga ahead of Tatum. Absolute bs
@@Sir-Seaniel The Tabum Glaze is Insane. GOAT Coach Kerr proved that Tabum isnt even top 10. Hes barely top 15. Hes overrared AF by delusional Stans in severe denial pf reality
Cry harder, Mama Tabum
I can’t believe Brian still does not understand the order of a 3 person serpentine draft. They do these types of drafts between the 3 of them at least twice a year. I’ve been waiting for 2 going on 3 years now. Brian is not a meme, stop trolling us we know you understand the snake draft
Shai is among my fabourite players and i like him more as a fan but Offensive + defensive load i think Giannis has a greater 2 way load no?
Wemby
@@jacobchambers7201 JB>>>>>Tabum
Cry harder, Mama Tabum
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Nostalgia9478 good dog
@@jacobchambers7201 Thats a good lil doggy
Now go play with your little Burner Bros, Mama Tabum
April 17, 2017
THE JIG IS UP!!!
CHECKMATE!!!
Jaylen Brown 4 LIFE!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☘️☘️☘️☘️
1. Wemby
2. Doncic
3. Edwards
Sure😂
Facts
Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond.
7"4
1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36)
2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24)
3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents)
4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31)
5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33)
7"5
1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21)
2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34)
7"6
1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30)
2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32)
3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26)
7"7
1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33)
2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29)
Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory.
James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP
Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP.
Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
@@JERWINIVANCORBETA fact of the matter is youve copy and pasted this under like 5 comments and the answer is still the same
@@jacobchambers7201 fact of the matter is you have a peanut of a brain😂💯
Doncic should be #1. As an owner he's a big draw to fill your arena, and in a close game theres no greater assassin since the late great Kobe Bryant
Not really
this is a terrible n biased take. he was not great in the clutch last yr. steph, sga, brunson, trae, dame, hali, dmitch were all significantly better in terms of production and efficiency
victors jersey (#4 top selling jersey) sold more than lukas (#6) last yr too. victors already a bigger draw than luka and hes a rookie on a terrible team with a fraction of the national tv games that all the other top guys get. for victor its only up from here
I wouldn’t say should but for me he would be but I’m a Mavs fan so I’m bias but Wemby would be my sure fire number 2 and in a few years would be number 1.
@@ILLWill1027 feel you bro id take tatum first n wemby 2nd. i too am biased but my tatum reasoning is that his skillset makes it easier to build winning rosters v giannis/jokic/luka/
jts a versatile two-way guy that can adjust his role to fit the personnel a team is able to put around him. where as all those other guys have pretty significant deficiencies you have to account for when constructing a roster
@@taylor7264he wasn’t great in the clutch last year because he was on a top 5 injury riddled team with trashy spacing and only got the defensive pieces every other contender had at the deadline. As soon as Luka got DECENT help he took his team to the finals 😂
the paolo disrespect will stop after this year
Paolo will definitely pass Tatum this year
@@Mac2Mon literally! that magic team might make the ecf
Hopefully
For next 5 years -Luka.
For next 10 - Wemby
you think luka wins a title in the next 5 yrs?
bc i dont id bet both sga n wemby win a title b4 luka does
@@taylor7264 i bet on a guy who reached Wcf and Finals in last 3 seasons
@@victorvic4659 i hear you. thats reasonable logic. we'll see what happens
but sga out played luka in last yrs post szn and the thunder have a much better roster construction w a ton of young talent who i think we all expect to have a pretty steep learning curve...n by the ock is fully mature and had their run victor will be in his prime at which point i see him being by far the most dominant force in the league - not all "best in the worlds" are created equal
@@victorvic4659 but so we're clear you do think luka wins a title in the next 5 yrs or na?
@@taylor7264 do you know that Luka and Lively are younger than Shai/Chet.
I understand "young Okc" narrative but check Mavs rotation.
Only 3 players that are older than 30 years old.
This team,at least for next 2-3 years is primed for success
Thank you to Steve Kerr, Grant Hill, team USA, and all major media outlets for continuously downplaying and disrespecting Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum & my Boston Celtics. Sincerely, thank you keep it up. We are going to dominate the league again this year and we will secure banner 19 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
The reason Tatum is so low is he’s consistent as the guys above him in the playoffs????? The only person that argument makes sense for is jokic and giannis(if he even makes it) stupidest take ever
The reason why Tatum's so low is that he's 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵
FIFY
No Donovan Mitchell the guy hasn’t done anything but lead two different teams to the playoffs every year he’s been in the league one of those teams was in the almighty western conference
Having Victor first is ridiculous he hasn't done anything yet. Maybe in the top 10.
It’s to build your franchise with. It’s not who’s better now. Thank god you aren’t a GM
Steve Kerr doesn’t agree with the thumbnail used
Wheres the Paolo conversation???
Maybe, He's like A Point Forward that can't shoot though.
It's hilarious how unbearable Bontemps is sometimes.
I’m sure everyone watching from 38:20 to 38:30 thought the same thing Tim said
Ja.... 1 good season. Most overated player in nba
McMahon picked tatum earlier than i thought
Guess it'd depend if said owner wanted to put butts in seats or banners in the rafters.
Wemby
Tatum
Luka
Giannis
Jokic
They other players lol no Gm is picking SGA/Ant over Tatum lmao I can’t wait until the Gms/coaches poll comes out
Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond.
7"4
1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36)
2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24)
3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents)
4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31)
5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33)
7"5
1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21)
2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34)
7"6
1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30)
2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32)
3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26)
7"7
1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33)
2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29)
Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory.
James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP
Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP.
Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
The Thunder Built a team around SGA he’s been cooking for a few years now and was second in MVP votes double check that and Ant hell yea can sell seats and is crazy nice and can defend they gone build around Ant and trade KAT watch but your right about Tatum
I knew Tatum was a first World problem when he locked up Nets Kevin Durant in the playoffs couple years ago.
Victor, no contest
Give me Booker over Tatum forreal
Jackson da real MVP
The Jayson Tatum takes are so brain dead. “He didn’t have a good playoffs” ok then why is he the sixth player ever to lead his team in points, assists, and rebounds in a championship run? The other guys to do it are all time greats: Lebron, Hakeem, Bird, Jokic, and Duncan.
How can he be carried by his superteam (of two all stars and one all-NBA guy, himself, by the way) if he led them in points, rebounds, and assists??
Make it make sense man
You're telling us objectively he had a great playoffs?
We get that but Tatum is the 8-9th best player in the league bro a second tier star he got a ring with a great team if it wasn’t for brown wouldn’t have a ring
@@Ronski1900Tabums not top 10. Hes barely top 15
38 pct fg in the Finals yet he took wayyyy more shots than any of his teammates because hes an empty stat padding ballhog ala WestBRICK in his trip doub days
Cry harder, Mama Tabum. Your boy was the 11th man for Team USA. GOAT Coach Kerr exposed the Overrated primadonna
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@Nostalgia9478 I agree I was trying give him a break frfr but yea I can name and would take 10 players before Tatum
NBA on ESPN, nice content it was really good
No Zion or Ja is craazzzyy
They Miss Alot of Games.
Luka doncic is the only answer as 1st pick
Learned that y’all don’t know ball 😂wow
Jokic won mvp at 6 seed he doesn’t need to win media like y’all just don’t have eyes apparently when it comes to voting
so emotional because u know its wemby
@@ilovekaiyko Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond.
7"4
1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36)
2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24)
3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents)
4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31)
5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33)
7"5
1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21)
2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34)
7"6
1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30)
2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32)
3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26)
7"7
1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33)
2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29)
Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory.
James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP
Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP.
Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
@@JERWINIVANCORBETAFact of the matter is you’re annoying and no one is even responding to your 100 copy and pastes
@@ilovekaiykowemby is a baby deer year 1 doesn’t give me enough to pick ‘em 1st sorry
Luka has proven to come up big in playoffs time and again 😂
Tatum? No thanks
using tatum for views
tatums a doormat
Shouldve at least mentioned the finals mvp
What Macmahon know about gunna😂
😂😂
Since McMahon reads these comments, I'm going to keep mentioning Nebraskan things for McMahon to tease Windy about.
Windy, does he like or ove Runza? Inquiring Nebraskans want to know.
@JessicaClariceElsener Joker for a short term project, he's 30. Victor for a long term project.
1. Jokic 2. Wemby 3. Doncic 4. SGA
@@UTube-gs1yf Your franchise is gonna cash and burn once jokic retires home to his horses in 4 years
@@mathewherrera8517what does that have to do with the question?
@@Neofilmcritic im sorry ur too slow to understand. just give it time
@@Neofilmcriticyou're projecting the next 10 years with a franchise if you were to start one today. While it's an overly played joke about his love of horses, as a native from Denver, even I must admit Jokic is probably the first to retire out of all these top considerations
1. Luka 2. Wemby 3. SGA
Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond.
7"4
1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36)
2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24)
3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents)
4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31)
5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33)
7"5
1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21)
2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34)
7"6
1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30)
2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32)
3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26)
7"7
1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33)
2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29)
Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory.
James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP
Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP.
Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
I mean its wemby end of story
Fact of the matter is any 7’3+ player, doesnt matter superstar or nonsuperstar caliber ALWAYS start to have career ending injuries and frequently injured as early as year 5 and beyond.
7"4
1. Mark Eaton - 11 seasons (age 26-36)
2. Priest Lauderdale 2 seasons (ages 23-24)
3. Boban Marjanovic - 8 seasons and ongoing (ages 27-presents)
4. Ralph Sampson - 10 seasons (ages 23-31)
5. Rick Smits - 12 seasons (ages 22-33)
7"5
1. Pavel Podkolzin - 2 seasons (ages 20-21)
2. Chuck Nevitt - 9 seasons (ages 23-34)
7"6
1. Yao Ming - 7 seasons (ages 22-30)
2. Shawn Bradley - 12 seasons (ages 21-32)
3. Tacko Fall - 3 seasons (ages 24-26)
7"7
1. Manute Bol - 10 seasons (ages 23-33)
2. Gheorghe Muresan - 6 seasons (ages 22-29)
Luka is the smartest pick as he literally is on a ridiculous GOAT trajectory.
James’ First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, five-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA First Team, two-time All-NBA Second Team, league MVP
Doncic’s First Six NBA Seasons: averages of 29 points, nine rebounds and eight assists, five-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA First Team, Western Conference Finals MVP.
Not to mention all those Euroleague MVP, Championships, etc. He’s always available, plays through injuries and a playstyle that’ll age beautifully. Luka is a proven championship caliber player and will be a longtime franchise player so I think to most competent GM’s out there, he is the Man💯
@@jacobchambers7201💯
@@jacobchambers7201yeah sure instead of having a reasonable discussion insult me.🤣🫵🤡🤡🥜🧠
@@jacobchambers7201 explain how.
Every rule has an exception...