exactly! just because it didn't last forever doesn't mean it wasn't a good thing for them and it doesn't just erase the love they had for each other or all of the memories they shared.
@n1kb00n3 sometimes I forget this. Just because it ended doesn't mean the two people aren't amicable or friends anymore. It isn't always tragic. Sometimes it's just what's best!
Like he was there for her when she was going through the worst. And she have said multiple times in her song that she's trying her best to save this thing. It's bittersweet but never a waste
Because those people see it as a reflection of their own lives. People like that will find any reason to see someone else’s relationships as something they’ve been through. It’s a form of not feeling so alone, but obviously very unhealthy. I’ve only had maybe one relationship that I felt was a waste of my years. That’s because it was abusive and only made me miserable and didn’t develop anything good. That being said, I still did learn a few things because it happened. No matter what we spend our time focusing on in life, it will always be a learning experience. Good or bad. That’s just how it works.
Exactly, Joe was the light for Taylor in some very turbulent times, he came into her life for a reason, to help her through it all, and now it's over, so we should let them both move on
i’m sure a lot of swifties are lovely people but watching them explain that everything she does is an easter egg is like watching a disney adult explain that everything in disneyland is a hidden mickey
I don't listen to her music or anything, but as another comment pointed out, she actually does put easter eggs and little clues in her music videos and songs. Not saying it's her fault, but she does somewhat create this environment of people looking into her life.
@@nataliee5236 She did create that environment to ensure fan engagement, but I remember seeing a tweet that said she was wearing a shoe released in 2010 she was making a statement about an interview from 2010…
@@antgrantrant nobody forcing them to be famous? I mean, it's not something someone can just drop either. Taylor didn't ask to be liked by crazy people, and she can't stop that.
THANK YOU, as a swiftie it's her and Joe's business none of ours, if they did, I'm sad but it's their choice, if not, great I'm happy, we should be here for Taylor not for any of her partners
tell that to everyone that constantly attacked jake gyllenhaal to the point where he had to turn off comments on a post mourning his dead friend because unhinged and deranged swifties thought it was more important to comment song lyrics 🙏
Exactly i’m a swiftie too and i feel bad for her but some ppl are treating this like this is their own breakup like at the end of the day this is not our business and we should just continue to support her like we always do
I think the thing swifties get confused about it drawing the line on her personal life. Taylor notoriously DOES leave Easter eggs and cryptic messages in her lyrics, clothes, music videos, etc. she’s admitted it. But it always about her career, like future release dates of new songs and albums. She’s never name dropped or shared explicitly about her personal life nor should we be searching for Easter eggs in that regard.
When she was younger, she did leave Easter eggs about her personal life. For example, she would give hints as to which men the song was about. But yeah after reaching crazy amount of fame, she stopped. But I can see why fans still hold onto that, bc there was a time that she did leave hints to her personal life
As a swiftie, when i heard they broke up my response was “That’s sad, she wrote a lot of really sweet songs about him” and then i moved on. She’s just a human person, she deserves the same privacy someone not living under a microscope does. If people talked about my last breakup this much id find it incredibly annoying- i can’t imagine how weird this has to be
Taylor’s brand IS a scavenger hunt for her fans. She does (and admits to) putting crazy clues (including lengths of videos and cryptic messages) into her albums, costumes, red carpet looks etc. I’m not a fan of all of the little Easter eggs but I think it has to be acknowledged that she has created this monster. HOWEVER, I think people need to leave her alone and stop speculating. I don’t think she’s planting Easter eggs about her breakup lol.
as a swiftie, I think many take it too far and don't understand that sometimes an easter egg is simple like the number 13 in the background of a video purely bc that's her favorite number not bc its some elaborate plan or secret message
i wouldnt say shes created this since, as another commenter has said, they never involve her personal life. as well, most of them are quite obvious, they have gotten more subtle over time but theyre still clear enough and deliberate enough that you can tell she meant them. with this, its clear those speculating cannot tell the difference between these clues taylor leaves and over-analysing every detail despite taylor never having hinted at things in this way before.
lol it’s funny cause her easter eggs are not that hidden or cia level hard to figure out like for the lover album title the easter egg was literally a sign that said lover in the me video and the others are her putting lyrics in her videos and showing them on screen. I think some swifties and the GP have made the easter eggs into a bigger thing then they really are.
Swifties are weird dude. It's just sad to be so invested in a complete stranger's life. I have plenty of artist I love and listen to daily, but idk anything about their personal lives because I don't care. These people are basically making their favorite singer their personality.
THANK U. Im a huge swiftie but some ppl are way overboard and sm to have no idea what the word boundaries means. This is literally none of our business, and at the end of the day we're truly here for taylor and her music. Not her relationships or whatever is going on in her PERSONAL PRIVATE !! life
This. She’s a human woman but people like to forget that because she’s a half billionaire. She’s dealt with super public, super messy breakups for her whole career. At this point she’s a veteran of this media cycle and she knows how to deal with it. Nobody needs to worry about her, she’ll be fine, she’s not new to this.
Having been a Swiftie since her country debut, the fandom often leaves me feeling whiplash. During the Fearless era, it was never like this. Being a conversational fan of Taylor during the Love Story lead single period was like an escape from the chaos from the crazy Britney, Bieber, and Carrie Underwood fever as well. I'm really worried about how far lengths this newer batch of chronically online Swifties will go to appear as "the most dedicated fan". Social media being more prominent than ever has turned it into a new extreme. The people who mourned by laying flowers at the Cornelia Street rental house is too much. Even the locals who live on the block have said to respect privacy.
It’s so frustrating how so many people can’t comprehend their breakup because “they seemed perfect for each other” and “she’s so happy on tour while singing Lover” the news outlets that have a good relationship with Taylor literally wrote articles about their breakup reporting that it was mutual and that their relationship had imply run its course so obviously she’s not going to be totally devastated while singing the songs she wrote about Joe.
As a Swiftie of over a decade (ew, I’m in my 20s and typing that made me feel old), I 100% agree. I think the fanbase loves her to a fault sometimes. She gives so much that we feel like we know her (esp those like me who grew up with her), but we don’t know her at all really. Just as us “normal people,” she needs space and time and respect. She doesn’t have to share as much as she does with the world, we can’t take advantage of her kindness and generosity (we shouldn’t be taking advantage of anyone’s but that’s a dif topic)
Like blonde haven't posted a personal pic since 2016 and we all here thinking we know her. She had become a highly private person and we gotta respect that
this comment reminded me of dbatc, "i gave you too much, but it wasn't enough" :( it's sad to me that that line can be related to her fans / media. I think the best support we could give her is the privacy shes always asking for
During my early TH-cam days I dated someone and made the mistake of being super public about everything. When we were together I felt all this pressure, and when we broke up I kept hearing how sad everyone was. “But you were so perfect together. If you two don’t make it there’s no hope for me.” This went on for years. And it made everything so much more painful when strangers projected their hopes or fears onto you. I literally cannot fathom how difficult it must be to experience that on the level that someone like Taylor Swift does.
Whether you’re a Swiftie, casual listener, or not a fan, it’s not anyone’s business besides what they CHOOSE to share publicly. Unless someone is possibly in danger (not either of them, just celebrities or public figures in general) it’s not ok to go digging, and even in that type of scenario, there’s a line.
ok i’m a swiftie and i honestly don’t care if they broke up because they deserve privacy. i have always thought that people care too much about people they don’t even know.
exactly also we literally know NOTHING about their relationship? why is everyone acting like we know anything about them TO mourn? all we have is paparazzi pictures and songs we can only assume are about him if we even assume they are entirely based in truth and reality to begin with. personally i never spent my time trying to figure out which song is about which boyfriend, that always felt odd to me
Literally same lol, one of my closest friends is so upset about it, and while that is a valid emotion, I do feel like a lot of fans have this super bad parasocial relationship with her and Joe. It’s definitely making me really second guess my thoughts towards even using the word “swiftie” to describe myself.
as a swiftie i completely agree! I also disagree with the people who think she left easter eggs about this break up. her easter eggs and clues are always about her music and references to tours, music videos and whatever: not her personal life. and especially considering how private she was with her relationship with joe it wouldnt make sense either. and even if she has left easter eggs about her personal life in the past, i doubt she would leave clues for something like this. i feel that a huge problem in the swiftie community is that people look into things too much and think everything is an easter egg for one thing or another.
Me and my partner of 5 years stayed together because we were best friends and our lives were so intertwined but when we decided to finally end it we were both ecstatic and have had such a better relationship as friends. We also found people that we actually want to be with almost immediately after we broke up. There is so much nuance to relationships. Breakups can be a good experience or at least bittersweet.
not related to Taylor but... feel like I'm heading towards a similar situation with my partner and I really don't want it to happen :( what made you feel like you were better off as friends (especially since you said you were best friends)? it's generally accepted that you should also be friends with your partner so I'm just wondering why your relationship didn't work out. only if not too personal a question of course!!
I've been a Taylor Swift fan since her first album, but I've honestly never understood the need to analyze and speculate and make conspiracy theories about what happened in her relationships or who certain songs are about. Part of the fun, for me, of supporting an artist who is so open about her feelings and so relatable has been finding songs I can relate to my own life more so than trying to envision her life. She's had so many AMAZING songs about growing up or experiencing betrayal or trying to fit in or just whatever topic that have gotten me through SO many tough times; there's something magical in trying to connect with the music and the messages/feelings the artist was trying to convey more so than trying to construct a puzzle and figure out the person or situation every single line in a song was about.
I as a junior swiftie approve, and I have been seeing a lot of misogynistic jokes about how she is going to write new songs about him or how she never can't find any man to keep it sucks a lot Ig I just want her to be happy, so I can't help but to feel bad
How is commenting/ thinking that she'll write a new album/ songs about him misogynistic? There's nothing wrong with her doing that, just as she has in the past. It's only misogynistic if people are hating on her for it. But joking about it is fine imo lol
Honestly I’ve always felt bad for Taylor and Joe because from the lyrics and some pictures it seemed like they had an amazing relationship (from what we have seen) but they always had the media shoved in their face. Joe got compared to a lot of Taylor’s richer boyfriends while Taylor also got a lot of unfair misogynistic comments, even quite a few people who really just wanted to be a third wheel in a relationship they didn’t really know all about, pushing a lot of boundaries. And every time I saw these things I could only imagine the kind of strain that might put on any regular relationship and I could just feel how awful people were going to react if they ever ended it. And I am upset at my fellow Swifties that I was right. I am sad they broke up but I respect their wishes to not talk about it public
This is actually giving me hugee kpop industry vibes. I'm not a swiftie and the only knowledge I have of Taylor and Joe is from this video, and by the looks of it, fans should just leave it alone. It is soooo obvious that neither of them are comfortable to tell the whole world about themselves so shouldn't we just respect. Some people say 'oh if they became an artist I'm sure they knew what they were getting into' but I'm sure they didn't become artists so they can get hated on or stripped of any privacy of their OWN lives. They became singers because of their interests and passion and we should respect that. As a kpop fan too I'm always infuriated by 'fans' who get wayyyy too upset over their idols/artists literally trying to live their lives. I get you can be upset by their breakup bcuz they seemed perfect but no relationship in this world is perfect. Fans are a hugw part of the artist's life but don't be so delusional as to think YOU have a say in THEIR life. Thank you for listening to my rant, if your still here:)
I feel so bad for Taylor. She’s had so many interviews saying how hard it has to have a normal life with the paparazzi following her. Imagine having thousands of people talk about your personal life???
I'm not necessarily a swiftie but I am a huge taylor fan and have been since she came out in the mid 2000s. I was so happy she'd found somebody and this saddens me that they broke up. Wish them well but that's as far as anyone should go with it, it's none of our business why.
people thought they broke up when she wrote breakup songs on folklore only to learn he helped write at least one of them i believe? regardless of the situation she’s clearly thriving on her most successful tour ever so im v happy for her
Thank you for your empathetic approach!! I feel like a lot of my fellow swifties are not taking this sensitively, we are not a part of Taylor's life, we are just fans
Hi Nick! Yesterday my boyfriend and I of three years broke up. It was very much like how you described how Taylor and Joes breakup could have been. Amicable and not full of resentment but just doing what is best for each of the parties. I’m not really a Swifty and honestly didn’t even know she was in a relationship. I just wanted to thank you for the grace and nuance you brought to this discussion and hearing you talk about how the end of a relationship can be a good thing was really helpful for me.
The thing is Taylor DOES leave Easter eggs and cryptic clues in her videos and lyrics BUT every single one is ALWAYS in reference to her other projects, her albums and her music and stuff she’s ok with us figuring out. She’s never used her scavenger hunt esque method to tell us Swifties about her private life. Why would she start now?
As a swiftie, the thing that makes me sad about the breakup is how many songs Taylor has written about her anxiety that her relationship, which I’ve always personally related to my anxiety in my own relationships. It makes me think about how devastated I would be if those anxieties were true and my relationship ended, and I can’t help but feel sad for Taylor
@Casie i care about MY relationships with (parts of) my family but idc if my aunt divorces my uncle or my sister and my 'dad' are fighting, none of my business
As a long time swiftie, I've kind of learnt not to trust what the media says until Taylor confirms herself (based off how much she has mentioned no one understanding the relationship better than them and the media is full of shit etc) but at the same time it's not my business/place to give a shit about a relationship that has been intentionally kept private and it's her happiness at the end of the day
As a Swiftie too, I find it a bit insane in the way that Taylor Swift always wants to keep everything private so the news and press always creating rumours whilst she’s getting a lot of success is not surprising especially about her “boyfriends” and in her songs about how she would rather want a lover in her bubble “a fishbowl” so she can keep it just between her and her lover- but tbh, who knows? Apart from herself considering how private her relationship with Joe is. To me it just seems like press trying to tear away / distracting people from her success in the eras tour ❤ Everyone’s (the media) is more curious about who she is dating than her music which says it all. Also, I don’t think Taylor would do Easter Eggs for her personal life.
Right the Easter egg theory is so weird. Why would she do that for the fans like bffr that’s her life not a funny little show. Some swifties are seriously detached from reality and it shows
right she has literally NEVER dropped any hints or easter eggs pertaining to her personal life. they're all always about her career- songs, albums, tours, etc. The fact that people try to analyze her songs to figure out the dirty details of her relationships is gross. She's an artist- of course a lot of her work is going to be inspired by her personal life, and she's openly talked about the ones she's okay with people knowing the meaning of (Example: she was honest about her mom's fight with cancer, and openly talked about the song that was inspired by it). But song lyrics dont tell the whole story of a situation, and sometimes theyre fictional altogether. Trying to figure out all the details of someones personal life from song lyrics is stupid and creepy. I think the grossest instances of people doing that are 1) people speculating about her sexuality and insisting shes gay/bi (this is getting A LOT worse now with the breakup story of course) and 2) people speculating that she had a miscarriage. Those are both extremely personal and sensitive things and its abhorrent for people to spread that kind of stuff online. If she wants the public to know something about her personal life, she'll say so.
people who analyse celebrities personal life , they r not a good persson, they perpetuate the abusive and parasocial ,creepy, paparazzi culture. i hate those twitter acc. who announce the private life of clebrities for an example x celbrity is dating another y celebrity ,"they were seen outside hanging" ,also they r so braven that they post paparzzi photos,videos of them without their consent.
If you went through a break up. That ended amicably like it’s being reported here. And thousands of people keep reminding you. Every ten seconds. Saying things that they could literally know already. 1. Taylor has released songs about old relationships while WITH Joe. 2. They have commented so many times that they wanted to be left alone. As a Swiftie, whether they are together or not ITS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. Jfc LEAVE IT ALONE. If they are broken up ok I get it as fans we want them to be happy… but the end of the day we fall asleep in our own beds with our own problemss. It is not fair to claim to be a fan and then demand to know things that she has asked for some space on.
very level-headed video haha. after the chaos of Twitter it is nice to see everything summed up. we definitely thought it was just rumours at first because, well, that happens a lot. then hours went by and no rep was denying it... 🤷🏻♀ sad situation but ultimately we will all be okay
As a HUGE swiftie. Thank you. People, even in her own fan base, dig way too deep into their personal life. We should just be here for her music. The misogyny that surfaced after this “news” broke has been absolutely disgusting.
I just want to add on that some swifties are now going as far as to dox Joe and his whole family. It feels so awkward as a swiftie to watch others go crazy over a relationship they never knew that much about. Some stating they are booking more therapy sessions because of the breakup. I loved all the points you are saying in the video and as a swiftie I believe more need to watch
i appreciate the way you're talking about swifties and you're not just insulting them. i'm not a swiftie but as a stan of a certain group myself it's hard to find someone who's willing to understand the connection some people have with their favorite artists.
Today at dinner my friends asked me how i was doing with the break up. I was kind of taken aback because I am a fan, but I explained that I'm not thrilled that someone is going through something that doesn't sound fun, but it feels icky to care SO much about someone I don't personally know. I am a fan that is interested in easter eggs, but a lot of times when I see theories I think "hm. Maybe, I'll never know" at first I wasn't sure if they broke up because I had heard falsd headlines before, but I wasn't distraught, and when it was confirmed I didn't feel the need to "accept" it because it wasn't something I was part of. I just sorr of thought, "oh okay, now we know." I do think some of her songs will he hard to listen to when theres the idea that she doesnt have the same relationship with someone she cared about as she once had, but i dom't expect to break down as if my parents are divorcing. I see jokes sometimes such as calling taylpr swift "mom", and laugh, but to me these are just jokes.
I'm 13. I've been a swiftie my whole life, but wasn't old enough to remember most of Taylors breakups. This was the first big one I experienced. If I am being honest, I was super sad. I cried, but then I got over it. Its not my relationship, and if they chose to breakup, than obviously there was a reason. I've seen 2 types of people on tiktok: 1: The grown ass adults SOBBING over their breakup and looking for easter egg after easter egg and the least favorites, 2: the gaylors, who are literally popping champagne bottles CELEBRATING. both are disgusting, especially the gaylors. Both taylor and joe don't owe anyone any sort of explanation on their breakup or what happened. I hope both of them are doing ok.
I’ve loved Taylor Swift since I was like 13 and I remember going to target with my mom and buying her red album lol, her seeming unfazed by the breakup is completely fine, I waited tables the night after I signed divorce papers, it doesn’t always hit you
i’ve been a fan of her since i was like 6, and when i read it i was like aw that’s sad , her songs about him were so sweet and moved on like , i relate her music to my experiences so it doesn’t ruin her music at all. her songs are like poems, but i don’t get involved in her life really
Taylor does enjoy doing Easter eggs for her career but she definitely does not do Easter eggs hinting at important personal things in her life like a break up. Very well thought out video and I agree with a lot of what you said as a swiftie myself. And you're right that it is so easy to get caught up in it all because we can get too invested with her being so open with her fans lyrically. Even I have to step back and find self awareness that some things are just not any of my business.
Swiftie or not, I don't understand why people are so obsessed with other people's lives. It's their business, not ours, and basic respect still applies even if it's a celebrity.
She’s dealt with super public, super messy breakups for her whole career. She’s a veteran of this media cycle, she knows how to deal with it. Nobody needs to worry about her, she’ll be fine, she’s not new to this.
Great video Nick. I’m a massive swift head and I totally agree. I do think the media hammered into our heads way too young that celebrities (like Taylor) deserve no boundaries or something. I’ve loved her music for like 12 years and i still catch myself getting too invested sometimes. I get why people are attached, but you have to really think about how this is benefiting anything. There’s no “right” way to be a fan but Taylor’s a musician and that’s the part of her that she wants to share with the world so idk I just wish we could focus on that more some time. I think if you really care about her you’d just want her to be happy like any other person you care about. Anyways speak now supremacy
I definitely agree with you. and additionally, Taylor isn't known for dropping easter eggs and clues about her personal life, shes known for keeping it very private. the only thing she drops clues about is her career.
I thought a lot of the points in this video were brought up in a very openminded way which allows for everyone to feel how they feel. I also believe that a lot of what nick said about relationships is valid and important to consider in every situation. Love the video
Finally some words of wisdom. I remember watching Miss Americana and thinking I would have lost it if people literally crowded outside my door daily. And that's what people all over the world are doing right now digitally. If her fans love her so much why don't they give her some privacy?
I'd categorize myself as a die-hard swiftie who is too poor and too lazy to devote my entire life to following her like some of these people do. The breakup made me sad only because I've spent the past several years listening to some really gorgeous love songs about this relationship, where she expressed insecurities due to both the consequences of fame and her past relationships, but also she wrote SO MUCH about how grateful and heads-over-heels she was for him, and how she never wanted to lose him. As a fan of both her art and her as a person, it's just a huge bummer! Not the end of the world, just sad for both of them because all the information we had on their relationship made it seem really healthy and strong. On a more selfish note, they've written some really great songs together and I'm not sure we'll get that collab again lol But this is the first time I'm saying this to literally anyone, irl or online, because at the end of the day it's not my business or about me at all. Unfortunately I think swifties are known as crazy and vicious because if you sample a very large population such as one as wide-reaching as "Taylor Swift fans" you're gonna find some unhinged, aggressive, and delusional people who like to be very loud about everything from her relationships to like, her choice in jewelry. Combine that with a lot of unfair criticism Taylor has gotten since she was a teenager (this is not to say there are no fair criticisms of her - but much of the hate for her boils down to misogyny), and you get some fans who have defended her for years who now feel like they are actually a part of her life and have relevant opinions on her private issues.
im a swiftie and ngl when i first heard about the breakup i was kinda sad since shes wrote so many songs about the highs of their relationship as well as just the longevity of it in general HOWEVER, seeing people 1) immediately jump at the chance to make comments about how excited they are that we're going to 'get one of the best heartbreak albums ever' out of this and 2) inspect and overanalyse every little detail, arguing her past songs were all hints or that they broke up years ago and this was all some elaborate set up is SO WEIRD! also just the weird comments of people with full on parasocial relationships who fully believe without any hint of a joke that they know taylor well enough to be able to determine the exact ins-and-outs of the relationship/breakup and actually know more than has been reported
THANK YOU for pointing this out! I love Taylor Swift, huge fan, but I've never understood the obsession with her personal life. Especially when she says over and over again that she prefers to keep it more private?!
I think sometimes swifties (me being one and i had to legit delete my twitter because swifties on twitter are something else) can sometimes treat taylor like a mythical creature. or like a god. but she is human. very human. she makes mistakes and has flaws and it's important to note that. and it's her flaws that make her art so beautiful and relatable.
as a swiftie its so strange to me to see you talk about this whole world in such detail LOL but i agree with you 100% even tho i can completely understand the emotional reaction to this news and its definitely upsetting to me too it’s ridiculous to indulge in it that obsessively
I am no fan of hers but like i think this has to be mostly children who are analyzing these articles right? Where my mind goes is people just want to see her happy with someone which is sweet and sad. My perception of her is her using her breakups as a direct fuel for her lyrics and I personally want her to be happy so she doesn't box herself as the breakup singer
unfortunately a lot of these people are full grown adults. i’m 21 and my most recent ex is a gaylor and obsesses over this shit and they’re all over twitter too. fully grown people
also for the twit user's point at 8:59, couldn't have this just meant that taylor actually likes her job and she loves performing? it's kind of like having a work-life balance where if you enjoy going to work, the personal things just blur in the background in the meantime.
Especially after she said in the Miss Americana doc that she hates people/the media scrutinizes her relationships, I dont see why fans are so invested and demanding about wanting answers I feel like they probably realized their relationship wasn't working because both work in entertainment and are super busy, so they mutually decided to go their separate ways
People using lyrics from Taylor’s songs as proof that they did/didn’t break up is hilarious to me. Like, sure she uses some autobiographical details in her songs. But she also writes songs that are complete works of fiction. “No body, no crime” isn’t her admitting to a crime. That one’s obvious to most people. But the feelings ones are always assumed 100% true autobiography from her. Last I checked most of the interpretation of what each song is supposed to be about is mostly done by the fans (and without confirmation from Taylor) **I could be wrong about this, but I recall her not wanting to confirm/deny who/what songs are about in the past**. Even if every single fan agrees X song is about Y, there’s no guarantee that’s the way Taylor meant it. As consumers of media, we are welcome to interpret how we will, but it’s hard to ascribe intent to the writer without hearing directly from them.
this was a really good video! i think you covered this topic really well, and folklore is my favorite album of hers, so we both have great taste. ALSO i love your shirt
not a swiftie but ik some of the lore. people need to realize that even if an artist drops easter eggs about their music, that does NOT mean you get to feel entitled to easter eggs about their PERSONAL lives. i love following celeb gossip and news, but people seriously become parasocial with these celebrities to an unhealthy extent.
Maybe it’s because I’m older but my reaction was “damn that’s rough” because she talked about him like he was her soulmate. And when they said nothing crazy happened they just grew apart I thought “yea that makes sense”. He is in England doing his thing, and she’s touring all over the world probably busy every second of her life rn. It’s probably really hard to maintain a relationship like that. I hope they’re both better off, and I hope they both find happiness afterwards. I appreciate your kindness towards the young swifties who are constantly written off, Nick
YES! I’m a die hard Swiftie and totally admit that yes we can be absolutely crazy, but I totally agree that people are going way too far-as long as she is happy, healthy and safe; she and Joe are adults and it’s none of our business. Hundo p agree with you! All very well said. 🎉
as a huge swiftie myself it is rly disappointing to see so many of the reactions of others online be frankly just really embarrassing. you can be sad for her that she might be going through a rough time or whatever but beyond that no one else should have any input or opinions on it
Dude I dated someone for 6 yrs til I was 22, and the happiness I felt when it was finally over is like indescribable lmao. And I LOVED my partner! He was a wonderful, sweet, kind man, and breaking his heart is one of the most difficult things I've had to do, but it was absolutely the right choice bc otherwise I would've kept feeling trapped and would grow to resent him. There's SO many feelings when you break up with someone, it's possible to be both happy and heartbroken. And it's difficult enough to go through, but to have the entire world following your breakup too jfc I don't envy these people at all :(
this is the best take i've seen. swifties, chill. give it space, it's none of your business and blowing the situation out of proportion and speculating helps no one. I can only imagine the spectacle fans have made of this makes it so much harder. so chill.
I didn’t hear about this until you posted and this video is great and actually helped me process! Didn’t even feel the need to text my swiftie friends by the end. People really need to learn the definition of a stretch (and have needed to for yeeeeaaars). The eras tour looks like a great show. Taylor’s music remains powerful regardless of how her personal life progresses. She only uses that to her advantage, and that’s her business.
Taylor and Joe broke up and she'll be fine. People need to stop crying and sobbing and denying it. 6 year relationships don't end overnight, it's usually a pretty drawn out process of figuring out it won't work. I personally think she seems happier than ever on tour, and is excited for her next chapter. Let's just keep supporting her and celebrating her success!
As a non swiftie, I remember when she was up and coming and in some of her earliest albums she did used to leave cryptic messages in her song lyrics, I don’t know if she still does that but the idea that she might is probably why swifties go so hard on these conspiracies
As a major lifelong swiftie, I wholeheartedly agree. It’s extremely selfish to assume Taylor owes us an explanation of her break up. We’re allowed to be sad because of the break up but we need to respect her privacy
if i tell you about a cool pillow that i have on my couch, that’s not an invitation to break into my house to look around. just like when taylor tells us some small things about her personal life, it’s not an invitation to theorize or try to “figure out” the rest of it.
thank you for this!!! reminds me of when jesse rutherford (the neighbourhood) and devon split - so many people were posting edits of them captioned things like “if they really broke up then love is dead”. like how do you think that makes the artist feel, seeing things like that?? also to add onto what you said about her being a performer - katy perry performed after her husband ended things via text directly before the show. it’s a heartbreaking clip to watch, but like you said, their careers are based on being good performers so all the “she looks so happy/how could she sing X song if she was sad” makes no sense. i hope her & joe are both doing okay regardless of what happened ! ❤
actually you handled this so well. I was afraid you were going to be too mean to the swifties that are making a big deal out of this. I do hope taylor and joe are both doing ok, but I wont cry about it lol. she definitely deserves her respect and privacy.
I am a huge swiftie and I want to thank you so much for making this video!! The days since the announcement have been absolutely insufferable. I get it that we all care about her but this is nobody’s business besides hers and joes. The last few days have really shown me the swifties that respect Taylor and the ones that don’t. I feel like people treat her like a fictional character in so many ways and I can’t imagine how that feels :( again thank you so much Nick!!
Taylor Swift has explicitly stated how much she doesn't want the public involved in her love life. A long relationship ending is always sad and maybe disappointing but jesus.
Thank you so much Nick! This right here, as a swiftie this has been over saturating my twitter timeline when yea if it is true I feel for Taylor but if it isn’t Taylor will see this content and not appreciate it. Some fans have not been respectful and it’s not nice to see after the countless times she’s said that media has taken her relationship status too far and now it’s weird to see fans do that. So thanks Nick this was a good way to put everything.
10 days before my ex and i called it off, he took me to one of the best bd dates ever. We were in love. We dated for 3 years. But sometimes people just part ways. I still love him. I feel people should experience more in order to understand adult relationships and that's why they're reacting this way.
People want to ship celebrities like they're Disney princes and princesses who can live happily ever after. I think it's the same reason why the whole "traditional marriage" trope still hangs around. We have a long history of gaslighting ourselves by condensing complex issues into magic that we can manipulate with populist individualism.
As a swiftie, some of the swifties are insane. There are the ones who say her entire relationship with Joe was a cover up for her dating one of her female friends, and so its no surprise there is now a group theorizing they didn't break up. To these swifties everything in Taylor's life is a game, a theory and treating it like Taylor isn't an actual human being. There are a good chunk of swifties who are constantly an issue for this shit and other shit they pull. Honestly if they did break up its sad, if they didn't great. But honestly we should be respecting them and their space for once in Taylor's career it would be great to see those specific swifties just ya know not, this time around.
9:30 thank you Nick. You brought to words everything I was thinking - my parents have been happily married for 25 years and I've never had a relationship that's more than a middle school fling. Yes, it's weird to me that they've broken up after six years, but I understand that we aren't getting the full story, and honestly I don't want the full story. I just want her to be happy and successful. And release speak now Taylor's version (jk unless)
i’m really happy you made this video nick- i feel like you’re person who’s very good at articulating things like this and humanizing people && it’s been. frustrating how much people refuse to let people have their own relationships when they’ve asked people not to be involved. it’s cool you’re able to both validate people who are speculating (while also disagreeing with it) and explain the situation at the same time ik you aren’t into making commentary videos anymore and that things have been rough in this transitional period but you are very good at what you do even if it isn’t your main passion
I'm a huge swiftie, and have been for about 14 years. Ive grown up with her and thats why she means so much to me, but that also means I've seen how the media has treated her and her relationships, which is why she's been so private with Joe. Ive stayed away from all this because I don't want to be like the media that hounded her every move
larries and swifties always throw around "they" as in "they are controlling them" n i'm like GIRL what omnipotent being do you know that i don't (this is a joke oh god please don't come for me)
Really great video. You made a lot of points that should be obvious to people but aren’t for some reason, and did it in a delicate way, which isn’t easy.
haven’t watched yet, finding this late and i work tomorrow so will later 🙏🏼 but bless for making a video. it’s not our business. sad if it’s true but also could be for the better. i just won’t form an opinion bc i don’t know her, she doesn’t know me so it can’t affect me personally. sometime being a fan of her music is embarrassing bc of how the swifties act
i love taylor swift's music i think she's amazing. her personal life is her personal life and she deserves for it to be personal. im sorry that she can't find someone shes consistently happy with, but its not really our business. unless taylor becomes like a completely different person, im always gonna have her back
i always try my hardest to NOT look into my favorite's singers family, friendships, relationships etc because its none of my business and i geninuely feel weird knowing stuff that isnt necessarily super public. i feel this should be standard
hell yeah. also to everyone being like 'i don't believe in love anymore' because of this.... relationships shift and end?? so does everything else in life! just because it's ephemeral doesn't mean it's not meaningful !
Well, people wanted to fight Jake Gyllenhall for the song All Too Well when it was like a two month relationship over ten years ago. The villain in that story was Scooter Braun. Or whatever his name is.
i mean it’s shocking and there’s a certain amount of a reaction that’s normal. i was shocked, a little sad, and then i moved on. taylor wants to keep her life private and i can’t imagine how much this will get out of hand when she’s back on stage saturday.
i’m not a swiftie, but we have this same stupid problem in the 1975 fandom. obviously not quite on the same scale, but fans are constantly speculating about matty’s relationships, how’s he’s doing with his addiction, and his wellbeing. it DRIVES ME CRAZY!!! i’m a long time fan and have seen him grow as a person, but that DOES NOT MEAN i know the first thing about his personal life. THE ONLY THING you can ever know for sure is what HE HIMSELF shares. when he’s on stage, he’s PERFORMING!! stop making assumptions just cause he seems off one day. having parasocial relationships is okay AS LONG as you understand that it’s really a one way street… celebrities are NOT your friends
i’m a huge swiftie, have been for my whole life but bro leave her alone. just like every other celebrity couple stop involving yourself in a relationship you only see in interviews and you know nothing about other than what you’ve heard on buzzfeed
i know their breakup is none of my business and maybe people are taking it too far making speculations and involving themselves too much with a celebrity's personal life. but it sort of hurts on a personal level because us swifties feel so connected to taylor and it felt comforting and hopeful to see someone who went through so many hardships (exactly what some of us are going through/went through) finally be happy and stable. them being together for six years and us not knowing much about their relationship made us idealize them as a couple. in my head, knowing them just by the love songs taylor wrote about them, they seemed to have a perfect relationship and if taylor had it, maybe it meant i could someday have it. i don't know, that's my personal perspective, maybe that's why other people are spending so much time thinking about it.
1. No relationship is perfect. 2. Life will always be good, then bad, then good again. No such thing as "true" stability. None. Especially not unless you're a gazillionaire like TS, and mostly not even then. 3. You have to be happy on your own before you'll truly be happy with anyone else, and idealizing a relationship like it's gonna fix or save or complete you is exactly how you end up with an endless string of losers who only do more damage to you that you have to heal before you're REALLY ready for a grown up, long term commitment. Taylor has yet to learn that, but I hope you do.
@@analuzanoni not any weirder than taking a celebrity's relationship so seriously and claiming that it's perfect and wanting one just like it lmao she don't know u boo.
@@dangerxbadger2300 kkkkkk véi i can't believe i'm taking time out of my precious life to respond to a youtube comment (from someone who clearly doesn't have anything else better to do) because they were rude to me, but i have some free time on my hands so here we go. the comment i made was to offer a new perspective that possibly people who watched the video hadn't thought about -- that's fucking it. i never claimed that their relationship was perfect. "in my head, knowing them just by the love songs taylor wrote about them, they seemed to have a perfect relationship" was what i sad. emphasis on "in my head" and "it seemed". for some people who listen to taylor's music it might've seemed that way because she only showed the highlights of it and when it did she did mention the hardships they had, the song usually focused on how they got over it. "them being together for six years and us not knowing much about their relationship made us idealize them as a couple", i said, emphasis on the "us not knowing much about their relationship". i didn't fucking say they were perfect, how could i know if they're perfect if i don't even know them?? dudeeee. idealizing something doesn't mean i honestly took the relationship super seriously and really thought they were perfect. feelings and being connected to a song and hoping that one day you might feel that kind of love is not rational, why the fuck are you trying to rationalize it? of course don't think their relationship was really perfect, i didn't say they were, it was you who obviously can't fucking read or just decided to respond to a silly little youtube comment because -- i honestly don't know. why you would take the time out of your day to do that. i hope i don't get another notification from you again. go watch a movie and fucking chill. boo.
I didn’t even know they broke up. Once again, your videos jumping from random topic to random topic saved me from being out of the know. 😂 I love this channel.
It would be amazing to hear Nick out on this and then we try to pick THIS video apart for if any time stamps link to any of Nick’s past relationships /j
its kinda cringe of people to act like if they broke up it means the relationship becomes a total tragedy and the six years were a waste
exactly! just because it didn't last forever doesn't mean it wasn't a good thing for them and it doesn't just erase the love they had for each other or all of the memories they shared.
@n1kb00n3 sometimes I forget this. Just because it ended doesn't mean the two people aren't amicable or friends anymore. It isn't always tragic. Sometimes it's just what's best!
Like he was there for her when she was going through the worst. And she have said multiple times in her song that she's trying her best to save this thing. It's bittersweet but never a waste
Because those people see it as a reflection of their own lives. People like that will find any reason to see someone else’s relationships as something they’ve been through. It’s a form of not feeling so alone, but obviously very unhealthy. I’ve only had maybe one relationship that I felt was a waste of my years. That’s because it was abusive and only made me miserable and didn’t develop anything good. That being said, I still did learn a few things because it happened. No matter what we spend our time focusing on in life, it will always be a learning experience. Good or bad. That’s just how it works.
Exactly, Joe was the light for Taylor in some very turbulent times, he came into her life for a reason, to help her through it all, and now it's over, so we should let them both move on
i’m sure a lot of swifties are lovely people but watching them explain that everything she does is an easter egg is like watching a disney adult explain that everything in disneyland is a hidden mickey
It's like being a Directioner all over again 🫣
I don't listen to her music or anything, but as another comment pointed out, she actually does put easter eggs and little clues in her music videos and songs. Not saying it's her fault, but she does somewhat create this environment of people looking into her life.
@@nataliee5236 She did create that environment to ensure fan engagement, but I remember seeing a tweet that said she was wearing a shoe released in 2010 she was making a statement about an interview from 2010…
10/10 comment
Like literally she's the most private person rn. She won't ever leave Easter eggs on her personal life. People should understand this
Can’t help but feel bad for celebrities that every little thing is an article
Edit: I did not mean to start a war in my replies 😬
it sucks more ppl need to see that they r literally jus ppl like it's so weird
Boo hoo
The millions of dollars and freedom to do whatever you want might help a bit
Except nobody is forcing them to be famous. Not to woke scold here, but there are so many more groups you can reserve you pity for.
@@antgrantrant nobody forcing them to be famous? I mean, it's not something someone can just drop either. Taylor didn't ask to be liked by crazy people, and she can't stop that.
THANK YOU, as a swiftie it's her and Joe's business none of ours, if they did, I'm sad but it's their choice, if not, great I'm happy, we should be here for Taylor not for any of her partners
Amen
tell that to everyone that constantly attacked jake gyllenhaal to the point where he had to turn off comments on a post mourning his dead friend because unhinged and deranged swifties thought it was more important to comment song lyrics 🙏
Right like 💀 some fans in massive fandoms are really that detached from reality it’s terrifying
@Eros Bruh stop making this something it's not.
Exactly i’m a swiftie too and i feel bad for her but some ppl are treating this like this is their own breakup like at the end of the day this is not our business and we should just continue to support her like we always do
I think the thing swifties get confused about it drawing the line on her personal life. Taylor notoriously DOES leave Easter eggs and cryptic messages in her lyrics, clothes, music videos, etc. she’s admitted it. But it always about her career, like future release dates of new songs and albums. She’s never name dropped or shared explicitly about her personal life nor should we be searching for Easter eggs in that regard.
When she was younger, she did leave Easter eggs about her personal life. For example, she would give hints as to which men the song was about. But yeah after reaching crazy amount of fame, she stopped. But I can see why fans still hold onto that, bc there was a time that she did leave hints to her personal life
As a swiftie, when i heard they broke up my response was “That’s sad, she wrote a lot of really sweet songs about him” and then i moved on. She’s just a human person, she deserves the same privacy someone not living under a microscope does. If people talked about my last breakup this much id find it incredibly annoying- i can’t imagine how weird this has to be
Taylor’s brand IS a scavenger hunt for her fans. She does (and admits to) putting crazy clues (including lengths of videos and cryptic messages) into her albums, costumes, red carpet looks etc. I’m not a fan of all of the little Easter eggs but I think it has to be acknowledged that she has created this monster. HOWEVER, I think people need to leave her alone and stop speculating. I don’t think she’s planting Easter eggs about her breakup lol.
as a swiftie, I think many take it too far and don't understand that sometimes an easter egg is simple like the number 13 in the background of a video purely bc that's her favorite number not bc its some elaborate plan or secret message
True but she never mix her personal life with easter eggs. Those swifties are just crazy.
i wouldnt say shes created this since, as another commenter has said, they never involve her personal life. as well, most of them are quite obvious, they have gotten more subtle over time but theyre still clear enough and deliberate enough that you can tell she meant them. with this, its clear those speculating cannot tell the difference between these clues taylor leaves and over-analysing every detail despite taylor never having hinted at things in this way before.
lol it’s funny cause her easter eggs are not that hidden or cia level hard to figure out like for the lover album title the easter egg was literally a sign that said lover in the me video and the others are her putting lyrics in her videos and showing them on screen. I think some swifties and the GP have made the easter eggs into a bigger thing then they really are.
Swifties are weird dude. It's just sad to be so invested in a complete stranger's life. I have plenty of artist I love and listen to daily, but idk anything about their personal lives because I don't care. These people are basically making their favorite singer their personality.
THANK U. Im a huge swiftie but some ppl are way overboard and sm to have no idea what the word boundaries means. This is literally none of our business, and at the end of the day we're truly here for taylor and her music. Not her relationships or whatever is going on in her PERSONAL PRIVATE !! life
This. She’s a human woman but people like to forget that because she’s a half billionaire. She’s dealt with super public, super messy breakups for her whole career. At this point she’s a veteran of this media cycle and she knows how to deal with it. Nobody needs to worry about her, she’ll be fine, she’s not new to this.
hehe stay
Having been a Swiftie since her country debut, the fandom often leaves me feeling whiplash. During the Fearless era, it was never like this. Being a conversational fan of Taylor during the Love Story lead single period was like an escape from the chaos from the crazy Britney, Bieber, and Carrie Underwood fever as well. I'm really worried about how far lengths this newer batch of chronically online Swifties will go to appear as "the most dedicated fan". Social media being more prominent than ever has turned it into a new extreme. The people who mourned by laying flowers at the Cornelia Street rental house is too much. Even the locals who live on the block have said to respect privacy.
A SWIFTIE AND A STAY WOOOOOO
It’s so frustrating how so many people can’t comprehend their breakup because “they seemed perfect for each other” and “she’s so happy on tour while singing Lover” the news outlets that have a good relationship with Taylor literally wrote articles about their breakup reporting that it was mutual and that their relationship had imply run its course so obviously she’s not going to be totally devastated while singing the songs she wrote about Joe.
It's a break up,of course it's hurts at first lol
As a Swiftie of over a decade (ew, I’m in my 20s and typing that made me feel old), I 100% agree. I think the fanbase loves her to a fault sometimes. She gives so much that we feel like we know her (esp those like me who grew up with her), but we don’t know her at all really. Just as us “normal people,” she needs space and time and respect. She doesn’t have to share as much as she does with the world, we can’t take advantage of her kindness and generosity (we shouldn’t be taking advantage of anyone’s but that’s a dif topic)
Like blonde haven't posted a personal pic since 2016 and we all here thinking we know her. She had become a highly private person and we gotta respect that
this comment reminded me of dbatc, "i gave you too much, but it wasn't enough" :(
it's sad to me that that line can be related to her fans / media. I think the best support we could give her is the privacy shes always asking for
During my early TH-cam days I dated someone and made the mistake of being super public about everything. When we were together I felt all this pressure, and when we broke up I kept hearing how sad everyone was. “But you were so perfect together. If you two don’t make it there’s no hope for me.” This went on for years. And it made everything so much more painful when strangers projected their hopes or fears onto you. I literally cannot fathom how difficult it must be to experience that on the level that someone like Taylor Swift does.
Whether you’re a Swiftie, casual listener, or not a fan, it’s not anyone’s business besides what they CHOOSE to share publicly. Unless someone is possibly in danger (not either of them, just celebrities or public figures in general) it’s not ok to go digging, and even in that type of scenario, there’s a line.
ok i’m a swiftie and i honestly don’t care if they broke up because they deserve privacy. i have always thought that people care too much about people they don’t even know.
100% same. Huge Swiftie, but her breakup is not mine to care about. We don't know her personally, and are simply appreciators of her art.
exactly also we literally know NOTHING about their relationship? why is everyone acting like we know anything about them TO mourn? all we have is paparazzi pictures and songs we can only assume are about him if we even assume they are entirely based in truth and reality to begin with. personally i never spent my time trying to figure out which song is about which boyfriend, that always felt odd to me
@@alenanela1743 frrr like I’m only here to enjoy her and her craft, not her personal stuff 💀💀
I was shocked mainly cuz I just started being interested in it. It affects how I listen to the songs, but I really don't take it personally.
When I heard the news I was a bit upset and thought I was being dramatic.
Then I opened Twitter
Literally same lol, one of my closest friends is so upset about it, and while that is a valid emotion, I do feel like a lot of fans have this super bad parasocial relationship with her and Joe. It’s definitely making me really second guess my thoughts towards even using the word “swiftie” to describe myself.
I felt werid being mildly sad about it I feel you 😭😭
as a swiftie i completely agree! I also disagree with the people who think she left easter eggs about this break up. her easter eggs and clues are always about her music and references to tours, music videos and whatever: not her personal life. and especially considering how private she was with her relationship with joe it wouldnt make sense either.
and even if she has left easter eggs about her personal life in the past, i doubt she would leave clues for something like this. i feel that a huge problem in the swiftie community is that people look into things too much and think everything is an easter egg for one thing or another.
Me and my partner of 5 years stayed together because we were best friends and our lives were so intertwined but when we decided to finally end it we were both ecstatic and have had such a better relationship as friends. We also found people that we actually want to be with almost immediately after we broke up. There is so much nuance to relationships. Breakups can be a good experience or at least bittersweet.
not related to Taylor but... feel like I'm heading towards a similar situation with my partner and I really don't want it to happen :( what made you feel like you were better off as friends (especially since you said you were best friends)? it's generally accepted that you should also be friends with your partner so I'm just wondering why your relationship didn't work out. only if not too personal a question of course!!
I've been a Taylor Swift fan since her first album, but I've honestly never understood the need to analyze and speculate and make conspiracy theories about what happened in her relationships or who certain songs are about. Part of the fun, for me, of supporting an artist who is so open about her feelings and so relatable has been finding songs I can relate to my own life more so than trying to envision her life. She's had so many AMAZING songs about growing up or experiencing betrayal or trying to fit in or just whatever topic that have gotten me through SO many tough times; there's something magical in trying to connect with the music and the messages/feelings the artist was trying to convey more so than trying to construct a puzzle and figure out the person or situation every single line in a song was about.
I as a junior swiftie approve, and I have been seeing a lot of misogynistic jokes about how she is going to write new songs about him or how she never can't find any man to keep it sucks a lot Ig I just want her to be happy, so I can't help but to feel bad
How is commenting/ thinking that she'll write a new album/ songs about him misogynistic? There's nothing wrong with her doing that, just as she has in the past. It's only misogynistic if people are hating on her for it. But joking about it is fine imo lol
@@casie6609 but people are hating on her for it, just in a joking format
@@strawberryjam7902 who?
@@casie6609 I’ve seen (male) twitter users having a field day with it lmao
“her 20th boyfriend. I’ve run out of fingers and toes to count”
you can’t tell me comments like that are playful + in jest
Honestly I’ve always felt bad for Taylor and Joe because from the lyrics and some pictures it seemed like they had an amazing relationship (from what we have seen) but they always had the media shoved in their face. Joe got compared to a lot of Taylor’s richer boyfriends while Taylor also got a lot of unfair misogynistic comments, even quite a few people who really just wanted to be a third wheel in a relationship they didn’t really know all about, pushing a lot of boundaries. And every time I saw these things I could only imagine the kind of strain that might put on any regular relationship and I could just feel how awful people were going to react if they ever ended it. And I am upset at my fellow Swifties that I was right. I am sad they broke up but I respect their wishes to not talk about it public
This is actually giving me hugee kpop industry vibes. I'm not a swiftie and the only knowledge I have of Taylor and Joe is from this video, and by the looks of it, fans should just leave it alone. It is soooo obvious that neither of them are comfortable to tell the whole world about themselves so shouldn't we just respect. Some people say 'oh if they became an artist I'm sure they knew what they were getting into' but I'm sure they didn't become artists so they can get hated on or stripped of any privacy of their OWN lives. They became singers because of their interests and passion and we should respect that. As a kpop fan too I'm always infuriated by 'fans' who get wayyyy too upset over their idols/artists literally trying to live their lives. I get you can be upset by their breakup bcuz they seemed perfect but no relationship in this world is perfect. Fans are a hugw part of the artist's life but don't be so delusional as to think YOU have a say in THEIR life. Thank you for listening to my rant, if your still here:)
she wrote a song about her relationship being private and people still try to intrude 😢
I feel so bad for Taylor. She’s had so many interviews saying how hard it has to have a normal life with the paparazzi following her. Imagine having thousands of people talk about your personal life???
I'm not necessarily a swiftie but I am a huge taylor fan and have been since she came out in the mid 2000s. I was so happy she'd found somebody and this saddens me that they broke up. Wish them well but that's as far as anyone should go with it, it's none of our business why.
people thought they broke up when she wrote breakup songs on folklore only to learn he helped write at least one of them i believe? regardless of the situation she’s clearly thriving on her most successful tour ever so im v happy for her
As a swiftie we are crazy but we need to respect her
Thank you for your empathetic approach!! I feel like a lot of my fellow swifties are not taking this sensitively, we are not a part of Taylor's life, we are just fans
Hi Nick! Yesterday my boyfriend and I of three years broke up. It was very much like how you described how Taylor and Joes breakup could have been. Amicable and not full of resentment but just doing what is best for each of the parties. I’m not really a Swifty and honestly didn’t even know she was in a relationship. I just wanted to thank you for the grace and nuance you brought to this discussion and hearing you talk about how the end of a relationship can be a good thing was really helpful for me.
The thing is Taylor DOES leave Easter eggs and cryptic clues in her videos and lyrics BUT every single one is ALWAYS in reference to her other projects, her albums and her music and stuff she’s ok with us figuring out. She’s never used her scavenger hunt esque method to tell us Swifties about her private life. Why would she start now?
As a swiftie, the thing that makes me sad about the breakup is how many songs Taylor has written about her anxiety that her relationship, which I’ve always personally related to my anxiety in my own relationships. It makes me think about how devastated I would be if those anxieties were true and my relationship ended, and I can’t help but feel sad for Taylor
how to know if you should care about a relationship:
Is it your relationship?
yes: ok, care (actually please care)
no: shut up, not your business
So you don't care about your family's relationships?
@Casie i care about MY relationships with (parts of) my family
but idc if my aunt divorces my uncle or my sister and my 'dad' are fighting, none of my business
@@casie6609 taylor isn’t your family, she’s a stranger. i love her and her music, i’m a huge fan, and i love joe, but this is none of our business.
humans are humans, we have feelings, not everyone likes everyone and fights happen, feelings change, that's just how it is
@@m1k4444 Maybe it's none of your business but you can still care about other people's relationships, I don't think there's anything wrong with that
As a long time swiftie, I've kind of learnt not to trust what the media says until Taylor confirms herself (based off how much she has mentioned no one understanding the relationship better than them and the media is full of shit etc) but at the same time it's not my business/place to give a shit about a relationship that has been intentionally kept private and it's her happiness at the end of the day
This. Exactly this.
As a Swiftie too, I find it a bit insane in the way that Taylor Swift always wants to keep everything private so the news and press always creating rumours whilst she’s getting a lot of success is not surprising especially about her “boyfriends” and in her songs about how she would rather want a lover in her bubble “a fishbowl” so she can keep it just between her and her lover- but tbh, who knows? Apart from herself considering how private her relationship with Joe is. To me it just seems like press trying to tear away / distracting people from her success in the eras tour ❤ Everyone’s (the media) is more curious about who she is dating than her music which says it all. Also, I don’t think Taylor would do Easter Eggs for her personal life.
That's exactly what I think tbh
Right the Easter egg theory is so weird. Why would she do that for the fans like bffr that’s her life not a funny little show. Some swifties are seriously detached from reality and it shows
right she has literally NEVER dropped any hints or easter eggs pertaining to her personal life. they're all always about her career- songs, albums, tours, etc. The fact that people try to analyze her songs to figure out the dirty details of her relationships is gross. She's an artist- of course a lot of her work is going to be inspired by her personal life, and she's openly talked about the ones she's okay with people knowing the meaning of (Example: she was honest about her mom's fight with cancer, and openly talked about the song that was inspired by it). But song lyrics dont tell the whole story of a situation, and sometimes theyre fictional altogether. Trying to figure out all the details of someones personal life from song lyrics is stupid and creepy.
I think the grossest instances of people doing that are 1) people speculating about her sexuality and insisting shes gay/bi (this is getting A LOT worse now with the breakup story of course) and 2) people speculating that she had a miscarriage. Those are both extremely personal and sensitive things and its abhorrent for people to spread that kind of stuff online. If she wants the public to know something about her personal life, she'll say so.
people who analyse celebrities personal life , they r not a good persson, they perpetuate the abusive and parasocial ,creepy, paparazzi culture.
i hate those twitter acc. who announce the private life of clebrities for an example x celbrity is dating another y celebrity ,"they were seen outside hanging" ,also they r so braven that they post paparzzi photos,videos of them without their consent.
If you went through a break up.
That ended amicably like it’s being reported here.
And thousands of people keep reminding you. Every ten seconds. Saying things that they could literally know already.
1. Taylor has released songs about old relationships while WITH Joe.
2. They have commented so many times that they wanted to be left alone.
As a Swiftie, whether they are together or not ITS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. Jfc LEAVE IT ALONE. If they are broken up ok I get it as fans we want them to be happy… but the end of the day we fall asleep in our own beds with our own problemss. It is not fair to claim to be a fan and then demand to know things that she has asked for some space on.
very level-headed video haha. after the chaos of Twitter it is nice to see everything summed up. we definitely thought it was just rumours at first because, well, that happens a lot. then hours went by and no rep was denying it... 🤷🏻♀ sad situation but ultimately we will all be okay
I had a similar response, I googled her to see if anyone else was reporting it.
As a HUGE swiftie. Thank you. People, even in her own fan base, dig way too deep into their personal life. We should just be here for her music. The misogyny that surfaced after this “news” broke has been absolutely disgusting.
I just want to add on that some swifties are now going as far as to dox Joe and his whole family. It feels so awkward as a swiftie to watch others go crazy over a relationship they never knew that much about. Some stating they are booking more therapy sessions because of the breakup. I loved all the points you are saying in the video and as a swiftie I believe more need to watch
i appreciate the way you're talking about swifties and you're not just insulting them. i'm not a swiftie but as a stan of a certain group myself it's hard to find someone who's willing to understand the connection some people have with their favorite artists.
Today at dinner my friends asked me how i was doing with the break up. I was kind of taken aback because I am a fan, but I explained that I'm not thrilled that someone is going through something that doesn't sound fun, but it feels icky to care SO much about someone I don't personally know. I am a fan that is interested in easter eggs, but a lot of times when I see theories I think "hm. Maybe, I'll never know" at first I wasn't sure if they broke up because I had heard falsd headlines before, but I wasn't distraught, and when it was confirmed I didn't feel the need to "accept" it because it wasn't something I was part of. I just sorr of thought, "oh okay, now we know." I do think some of her songs will he hard to listen to when theres the idea that she doesnt have the same relationship with someone she cared about as she once had, but i dom't expect to break down as if my parents are divorcing. I see jokes sometimes such as calling taylpr swift "mom", and laugh, but to me these are just jokes.
I'm 13. I've been a swiftie my whole life, but wasn't old enough to remember most of Taylors breakups. This was the first big one I experienced. If I am being honest, I was super sad. I cried, but then I got over it. Its not my relationship, and if they chose to breakup, than obviously there was a reason.
I've seen 2 types of people on tiktok:
1: The grown ass adults SOBBING over their breakup and looking for easter egg after easter egg
and the least favorites,
2: the gaylors, who are literally popping champagne bottles CELEBRATING.
both are disgusting, especially the gaylors.
Both taylor and joe don't owe anyone any sort of explanation on their breakup or what happened. I hope both of them are doing ok.
I’ve loved Taylor Swift since I was like 13 and I remember going to target with my mom and buying her red album lol, her seeming unfazed by the breakup is completely fine, I waited tables the night after I signed divorce papers, it doesn’t always hit you
i’ve been a fan of her since i was like 6, and when i read it i was like aw that’s sad , her songs about him were so sweet and moved on like , i relate her music to my experiences so it doesn’t ruin her music at all. her songs are like poems, but i don’t get involved in her life really
Taylor does enjoy doing Easter eggs for her career but she definitely does not do Easter eggs hinting at important personal things in her life like a break up. Very well thought out video and I agree with a lot of what you said as a swiftie myself. And you're right that it is so easy to get caught up in it all because we can get too invested with her being so open with her fans lyrically. Even I have to step back and find self awareness that some things are just not any of my business.
Swiftie or not, I don't understand why people are so obsessed with other people's lives. It's their business, not ours, and basic respect still applies even if it's a celebrity.
She’s dealt with super public, super messy breakups for her whole career. She’s a veteran of this media cycle, she knows how to deal with it. Nobody needs to worry about her, she’ll be fine, she’s not new to this.
Great video Nick. I’m a massive swift head and I totally agree. I do think the media hammered into our heads way too young that celebrities (like Taylor) deserve no boundaries or something. I’ve loved her music for like 12 years and i still catch myself getting too invested sometimes. I get why people are attached, but you have to really think about how this is benefiting anything. There’s no “right” way to be a fan but Taylor’s a musician and that’s the part of her that she wants to share with the world so idk I just wish we could focus on that more some time. I think if you really care about her you’d just want her to be happy like any other person you care about.
Anyways speak now supremacy
I definitely agree with you. and additionally, Taylor isn't known for dropping easter eggs and clues about her personal life, shes known for keeping it very private. the only thing she drops clues about is her career.
I thought a lot of the points in this video were brought up in a very openminded way which allows for everyone to feel how they feel. I also believe that a lot of what nick said about relationships is valid and important to consider in every situation. Love the video
Finally some words of wisdom. I remember watching Miss Americana and thinking I would have lost it if people literally crowded outside my door daily. And that's what people all over the world are doing right now digitally. If her fans love her so much why don't they give her some privacy?
I'd categorize myself as a die-hard swiftie who is too poor and too lazy to devote my entire life to following her like some of these people do. The breakup made me sad only because I've spent the past several years listening to some really gorgeous love songs about this relationship, where she expressed insecurities due to both the consequences of fame and her past relationships, but also she wrote SO MUCH about how grateful and heads-over-heels she was for him, and how she never wanted to lose him. As a fan of both her art and her as a person, it's just a huge bummer! Not the end of the world, just sad for both of them because all the information we had on their relationship made it seem really healthy and strong.
On a more selfish note, they've written some really great songs together and I'm not sure we'll get that collab again lol
But this is the first time I'm saying this to literally anyone, irl or online, because at the end of the day it's not my business or about me at all. Unfortunately I think swifties are known as crazy and vicious because if you sample a very large population such as one as wide-reaching as "Taylor Swift fans" you're gonna find some unhinged, aggressive, and delusional people who like to be very loud about everything from her relationships to like, her choice in jewelry. Combine that with a lot of unfair criticism Taylor has gotten since she was a teenager (this is not to say there are no fair criticisms of her - but much of the hate for her boils down to misogyny), and you get some fans who have defended her for years who now feel like they are actually a part of her life and have relevant opinions on her private issues.
im a swiftie and ngl when i first heard about the breakup i was kinda sad since shes wrote so many songs about the highs of their relationship as well as just the longevity of it in general
HOWEVER, seeing people 1) immediately jump at the chance to make comments about how excited they are that we're going to 'get one of the best heartbreak albums ever' out of this and 2) inspect and overanalyse every little detail, arguing her past songs were all hints or that they broke up years ago and this was all some elaborate set up is SO WEIRD!
also just the weird comments of people with full on parasocial relationships who fully believe without any hint of a joke that they know taylor well enough to be able to determine the exact ins-and-outs of the relationship/breakup and actually know more than has been reported
its so frustrating seeing fellow taylor fans obsessing over it, pretty obvious she wouldnt want that with how private she has kept this relationship
THANK YOU for pointing this out! I love Taylor Swift, huge fan, but I've never understood the obsession with her personal life. Especially when she says over and over again that she prefers to keep it more private?!
I think sometimes swifties (me being one and i had to legit delete my twitter because swifties on twitter are something else) can sometimes treat taylor like a mythical creature. or like a god. but she is human. very human. she makes mistakes and has flaws and it's important to note that. and it's her flaws that make her art so beautiful and relatable.
as a swiftie its so strange to me to see you talk about this whole world in such detail LOL but i agree with you 100% even tho i can completely understand the emotional reaction to this news and its definitely upsetting to me too it’s ridiculous to indulge in it that obsessively
I am no fan of hers but like i think this has to be mostly children who are analyzing these articles right? Where my mind goes is people just want to see her happy with someone which is sweet and sad. My perception of her is her using her breakups as a direct fuel for her lyrics and I personally want her to be happy so she doesn't box herself as the breakup singer
unfortunately a lot of these people are full grown adults. i’m 21 and my most recent ex is a gaylor and obsesses over this shit and they’re all over twitter too. fully grown people
also for the twit user's point at 8:59, couldn't have this just meant that taylor actually likes her job and she loves performing? it's kind of like having a work-life balance where if you enjoy going to work, the personal things just blur in the background in the meantime.
Especially after she said in the Miss Americana doc that she hates people/the media scrutinizes her relationships, I dont see why fans are so invested and demanding about wanting answers
I feel like they probably realized their relationship wasn't working because both work in entertainment and are super busy, so they mutually decided to go their separate ways
I think it's insane that anyone is actually talking about this at all. People shouldn't have Twitter.
Folklore is her best too imo
People using lyrics from Taylor’s songs as proof that they did/didn’t break up is hilarious to me. Like, sure she uses some autobiographical details in her songs. But she also writes songs that are complete works of fiction. “No body, no crime” isn’t her admitting to a crime. That one’s obvious to most people. But the feelings ones are always assumed 100% true autobiography from her. Last I checked most of the interpretation of what each song is supposed to be about is mostly done by the fans (and without confirmation from Taylor) **I could be wrong about this, but I recall her not wanting to confirm/deny who/what songs are about in the past**. Even if every single fan agrees X song is about Y, there’s no guarantee that’s the way Taylor meant it. As consumers of media, we are welcome to interpret how we will, but it’s hard to ascribe intent to the writer without hearing directly from them.
this was a really good video! i think you covered this topic really well, and folklore is my favorite album of hers, so we both have great taste. ALSO i love your shirt
not a swiftie but ik some of the lore. people need to realize that even if an artist drops easter eggs about their music, that does NOT mean you get to feel entitled to easter eggs about their PERSONAL lives. i love following celeb gossip and news, but people seriously become parasocial with these celebrities to an unhealthy extent.
Thank you for your content and being your true authentic self, Nick.
Maybe it’s because I’m older but my reaction was “damn that’s rough” because she talked about him like he was her soulmate. And when they said nothing crazy happened they just grew apart I thought “yea that makes sense”. He is in England doing his thing, and she’s touring all over the world probably busy every second of her life rn. It’s probably really hard to maintain a relationship like that. I hope they’re both better off, and I hope they both find happiness afterwards. I appreciate your kindness towards the young swifties who are constantly written off, Nick
YES! I’m a die hard Swiftie and totally admit that yes we can be absolutely crazy, but I totally agree that people are going way too far-as long as she is happy, healthy and safe; she and Joe are adults and it’s none of our business. Hundo p agree with you! All very well said. 🎉
as a huge swiftie myself it is rly disappointing to see so many of the reactions of others online be frankly just really embarrassing. you can be sad for her that she might be going through a rough time or whatever but beyond that no one else should have any input or opinions on it
Dude I dated someone for 6 yrs til I was 22, and the happiness I felt when it was finally over is like indescribable lmao. And I LOVED my partner! He was a wonderful, sweet, kind man, and breaking his heart is one of the most difficult things I've had to do, but it was absolutely the right choice bc otherwise I would've kept feeling trapped and would grow to resent him. There's SO many feelings when you break up with someone, it's possible to be both happy and heartbroken. And it's difficult enough to go through, but to have the entire world following your breakup too jfc I don't envy these people at all :(
this is the best take i've seen. swifties, chill. give it space, it's none of your business and blowing the situation out of proportion and speculating helps no one. I can only imagine the spectacle fans have made of this makes it so much harder. so chill.
I didn’t hear about this until you posted and this video is great and actually helped me process! Didn’t even feel the need to text my swiftie friends by the end. People really need to learn the definition of a stretch (and have needed to for yeeeeaaars). The eras tour looks like a great show. Taylor’s music remains powerful regardless of how her personal life progresses. She only uses that to her advantage, and that’s her business.
Taylor and Joe broke up and she'll be fine. People need to stop crying and sobbing and denying it. 6 year relationships don't end overnight, it's usually a pretty drawn out process of figuring out it won't work. I personally think she seems happier than ever on tour, and is excited for her next chapter. Let's just keep supporting her and celebrating her success!
As a non swiftie, I remember when she was up and coming and in some of her earliest albums she did used to leave cryptic messages in her song lyrics, I don’t know if she still does that but the idea that she might is probably why swifties go so hard on these conspiracies
As a major lifelong swiftie, I wholeheartedly agree. It’s extremely selfish to assume Taylor owes us an explanation of her break up. We’re allowed to be sad because of the break up but we need to respect her privacy
if i tell you about a cool pillow that i have on my couch, that’s not an invitation to break into my house to look around. just like when taylor tells us some small things about her personal life, it’s not an invitation to theorize or try to “figure out” the rest of it.
thank you for this!!!
reminds me of when jesse rutherford (the neighbourhood) and devon split - so many people were posting edits of them captioned things like “if they really broke up then love is dead”. like how do you think that makes the artist feel, seeing things like that??
also to add onto what you said about her being a performer - katy perry performed after her husband ended things via text directly before the show. it’s a heartbreaking clip to watch, but like you said, their careers are based on being good performers so all the “she looks so happy/how could she sing X song if she was sad” makes no sense.
i hope her & joe are both doing okay regardless of what happened ! ❤
actually you handled this so well. I was afraid you were going to be too mean to the swifties that are making a big deal out of this. I do hope taylor and joe are both doing ok, but I wont cry about it lol. she definitely deserves her respect and privacy.
I am a huge swiftie and I want to thank you so much for making this video!! The days since the announcement have been absolutely insufferable. I get it that we all care about her but this is nobody’s business besides hers and joes. The last few days have really shown me the swifties that respect Taylor and the ones that don’t. I feel like people treat her like a fictional character in so many ways and I can’t imagine how that feels :( again thank you so much Nick!!
Taylor Swift has explicitly stated how much she doesn't want the public involved in her love life. A long relationship ending is always sad and maybe disappointing but jesus.
As a swiftie a I've never thought I would see nick talking about Taylor, it just seems two different perfect worlds colliding
Thank you so much Nick! This right here, as a swiftie this has been over saturating my twitter timeline when yea if it is true I feel for Taylor but if it isn’t Taylor will see this content and not appreciate it. Some fans have not been respectful and it’s not nice to see after the countless times she’s said that media has taken her relationship status too far and now it’s weird to see fans do that. So thanks Nick this was a good way to put everything.
10 days before my ex and i called it off, he took me to one of the best bd dates ever. We were in love. We dated for 3 years. But sometimes people just part ways. I still love him. I feel people should experience more in order to understand adult relationships and that's why they're reacting this way.
yesss i definitely agree. Obviously it’s okay to feel sad about something we knew meant a lot to her. But some of these swifties are… yeah
People want to ship celebrities like they're Disney princes and princesses who can live happily ever after. I think it's the same reason why the whole "traditional marriage" trope still hangs around. We have a long history of gaslighting ourselves by condensing complex issues into magic that we can manipulate with populist individualism.
As a swiftie, some of the swifties are insane. There are the ones who say her entire relationship with Joe was a cover up for her dating one of her female friends, and so its no surprise there is now a group theorizing they didn't break up. To these swifties everything in Taylor's life is a game, a theory and treating it like Taylor isn't an actual human being. There are a good chunk of swifties who are constantly an issue for this shit and other shit they pull.
Honestly if they did break up its sad, if they didn't great. But honestly we should be respecting them and their space for once in Taylor's career it would be great to see those specific swifties just ya know not, this time around.
9:30 thank you Nick. You brought to words everything I was thinking - my parents have been happily married for 25 years and I've never had a relationship that's more than a middle school fling. Yes, it's weird to me that they've broken up after six years, but I understand that we aren't getting the full story, and honestly I don't want the full story. I just want her to be happy and successful. And release speak now Taylor's version (jk unless)
i’m really happy you made this video nick- i feel like you’re person who’s very good at articulating things like this and humanizing people && it’s been. frustrating how much people refuse to let people have their own relationships when they’ve asked people not to be involved. it’s cool you’re able to both validate people who are speculating (while also disagreeing with it) and explain the situation at the same time
ik you aren’t into making commentary videos anymore and that things have been rough in this transitional period but you are very good at what you do even if it isn’t your main passion
I'm a huge swiftie, and have been for about 14 years. Ive grown up with her and thats why she means so much to me, but that also means I've seen how the media has treated her and her relationships, which is why she's been so private with Joe. Ive stayed away from all this because I don't want to be like the media that hounded her every move
larries and swifties always throw around "they" as in "they are controlling them" n i'm like GIRL what omnipotent being do you know that i don't (this is a joke oh god please don't come for me)
Nick ur spitting fire here. Speaking as a huge swiftie you hit the nail on the head
I never expected you to make a video on this but you have some of the best takes. Some swifties are going way too far. (I'm saying this as a swiftie)
Really great video. You made a lot of points that should be obvious to people but aren’t for some reason, and did it in a delicate way, which isn’t easy.
haven’t watched yet, finding this late and i work tomorrow so will later 🙏🏼 but bless for making a video. it’s not our business. sad if it’s true but also could be for the better. i just won’t form an opinion bc i don’t know her, she doesn’t know me so it can’t affect me personally. sometime being a fan of her music is embarrassing bc of how the swifties act
i love taylor swift's music i think she's amazing. her personal life is her personal life and she deserves for it to be personal. im sorry that she can't find someone shes consistently happy with, but its not really our business. unless taylor becomes like a completely different person, im always gonna have her back
i always try my hardest to NOT look into my favorite's singers family, friendships, relationships etc because its none of my business and i geninuely feel weird knowing stuff that isnt necessarily super public. i feel this should be standard
hell yeah. also to everyone being like 'i don't believe in love anymore' because of this.... relationships shift and end?? so does everything else in life! just because it's ephemeral doesn't mean it's not meaningful !
Well, people wanted to fight Jake Gyllenhall for the song All Too Well when it was like a two month relationship over ten years ago. The villain in that story was Scooter Braun. Or whatever his name is.
two of my best friends broke up and i was more composed about it then some swifties are being rn
i mean it’s shocking and there’s a certain amount of a reaction that’s normal. i was shocked, a little sad, and then i moved on. taylor wants to keep her life private and i can’t imagine how much this will get out of hand when she’s back on stage saturday.
i’m not a swiftie, but we have this same stupid problem in the 1975 fandom. obviously not quite on the same scale, but fans are constantly speculating about matty’s relationships, how’s he’s doing with his addiction, and his wellbeing. it DRIVES ME CRAZY!!! i’m a long time fan and have seen him grow as a person, but that DOES NOT MEAN i know the first thing about his personal life. THE ONLY THING you can ever know for sure is what HE HIMSELF shares. when he’s on stage, he’s PERFORMING!! stop making assumptions just cause he seems off one day. having parasocial relationships is okay AS LONG as you understand that it’s really a one way street… celebrities are NOT your friends
i’m a huge swiftie, have been for my whole life but bro leave her alone. just like every other celebrity couple stop involving yourself in a relationship you only see in interviews and you know nothing about other than what you’ve heard on buzzfeed
i know their breakup is none of my business and maybe people are taking it too far making speculations and involving themselves too much with a celebrity's personal life. but it sort of hurts on a personal level because us swifties feel so connected to taylor and it felt comforting and hopeful to see someone who went through so many hardships (exactly what some of us are going through/went through) finally be happy and stable. them being together for six years and us not knowing much about their relationship made us idealize them as a couple. in my head, knowing them just by the love songs taylor wrote about them, they seemed to have a perfect relationship and if taylor had it, maybe it meant i could someday have it. i don't know, that's my personal perspective, maybe that's why other people are spending so much time thinking about it.
1. No relationship is perfect.
2. Life will always be good, then bad, then good again. No such thing as "true" stability. None. Especially not unless you're a gazillionaire like TS, and mostly not even then.
3. You have to be happy on your own before you'll truly be happy with anyone else, and idealizing a relationship like it's gonna fix or save or complete you is exactly how you end up with an endless string of losers who only do more damage to you that you have to heal before you're REALLY ready for a grown up, long term commitment. Taylor has yet to learn that, but I hope you do.
@@dangerxbadger2300 KKKKKKKKKKK dude it’s so funny that people take such an innocent comment so seriously - coisa de gringo, não é possível
@@analuzanoni not any weirder than taking a celebrity's relationship so seriously and claiming that it's perfect and wanting one just like it lmao she don't know u boo.
@@dangerxbadger2300 kkkkkk véi i can't believe i'm taking time out of my precious life to respond to a youtube comment (from someone who clearly doesn't have anything else better to do) because they were rude to me, but i have some free time on my hands so here we go. the comment i made was to offer a new perspective that possibly people who watched the video hadn't thought about -- that's fucking it. i never claimed that their relationship was perfect. "in my head, knowing them just by the love songs taylor wrote about them, they seemed to have a perfect relationship" was what i sad. emphasis on "in my head" and "it seemed". for some people who listen to taylor's music it might've seemed that way because she only showed the highlights of it and when it did she did mention the hardships they had, the song usually focused on how they got over it. "them being together for six years and us not knowing much about their relationship made us idealize them as a couple", i said, emphasis on the "us not knowing much about their relationship". i didn't fucking say they were perfect, how could i know if they're perfect if i don't even know them?? dudeeee. idealizing something doesn't mean i honestly took the relationship super seriously and really thought they were perfect. feelings and being connected to a song and hoping that one day you might feel that kind of love is not rational, why the fuck are you trying to rationalize it? of course don't think their relationship was really perfect, i didn't say they were, it was you who obviously can't fucking read or just decided to respond to a silly little youtube comment because -- i honestly don't know. why you would take the time out of your day to do that. i hope i don't get another notification from you again. go watch a movie and fucking chill. boo.
the literal girl on the radio was crying about it 😐 honest she was talking about her ‘speak now’ FANTASIES?????
I didn’t even know they broke up. Once again, your videos jumping from random topic to random topic saved me from being out of the know. 😂 I love this channel.
It would be amazing to hear Nick out on this and then we try to pick THIS video apart for if any time stamps link to any of Nick’s past relationships /j