Simplest Setup In a New Project. Open the MIDI Environment CMD-0. Show the Inspector by pressing I. Select the Click & Ports layer. Select the Sequencer Input and in the Inspector select "Channelize". Now in Project Settings>Recordings check "Auto Demux by Channel if Multitrack Recording". In the Main Window create two software instrument tracks. In the Inspector under Track Settings assign a "unique midi channel" to each track corresponding to your midi controllers midi channels. "Record enable" both tracks. Each controller will play its respective software instrument track.
About 10 years ago I was trying to figure this out for about a year on and off...wrecked my brain that Logic couldnt do this (so I thought). You Sir...are a GENIUS!!!! Instant Subscribe. Blessings.
Many thanks for this. I was wrestling away with two keyboards and a Mackie MCU Pro in Logic Pro X and a Metric Halo 3d interface, all of which chimed in on everything - if I left Logic with a rec button lit, the Mackie sounded a note each time I touched something. However, now, thanks to you, my Nord is one one channel, the Yamaha KX88 is driving the Korg Triton rack and the Mackie just does its stuff without making its very own random contribution to the sound. Its all separated out and I am so very very grateful!
Thanks for this information Bill, i've been looking for how to set up many MIDI's at the same time with Garageband and when I realized Garageband didn't have that ability I moved up to Logic, and your video was the best i've seen so far on this topic, thank you for sharing.
You are the BEST!!!! I've probably spent 8 hours frustrating myself trying to solve this problem. I found your other video, was super excited, only to realize it wouldn't record :( I stumbled upon that video again today, and saw your comment from a few days ago about this new video. Thank you so much!
Lifesaver! Finally found your video after a year of trying to record a jam of vdrums and piano. All the other videos I watched seemed to glaze over an important step in this process.
YES! So simple and easy to follow. I use this for collaboration. Two people each on separate keyboards writing and coming up with parts. Thank you for doing this!
I wish I had run across your videos sooner. You have helped me more watching 2 videos than I've gotten just trying to figure this stuff out myself... you rock!!!!
Thank you for this. I'd tried other solutions not involving the environment (because I know nothing about it) but your solution made sense, was easy, and so far it works. And one of my controllers is a MPE controller. So, not sure why it works when assigned to only 1 channel but it seems to.
thank you! Very helpful. I couldn't find my midi instruments for some reason and ended up adding them from the same menu that you added transformers from. It's working👍
Thank you, i was thinking of going to Ableton live, but cymbal chokes dont work on Roland V-drums(polyphonic after touch problem/lack of). The trick is to keep the tracks RECORD ENABLED, and it will record the highlighted one of the record enabled tracks, yet still write data on them, bit strange, but good, as you get more midi data. Im using a TB03, Roland Vdrums, and Oxygen 8. So now the TB03, ISNT playing the V-Drums for me!! Awesome, proper smashe dmy head in for weeks. I do wish the MIDI was a bit easier to understand in Logic, Abletons is much more intuitive,. Thank you so much for posting up this. Youre a lifesaver!!!
Thanks man you saved me! you should definitely have more views you deserve them! Very clear and well explained i just bought lots of equipment and was getting frustrated! but you helped me out thanks again.
Fantastic thanks for that. I have spent over 20 years trying to figure that one out. not many vids/sources on this one. I'm hoping the same setup works on external synths the same way. I'm going to try and get back to you
This technique is great when you need a more sophisticated setup such as Sharing Mod, Pitch Bend and Sustain among Multiple Midi Controllers on Different Channels. Why might you want to do this? Well, say you have one keyboard with a sustain pedal, mod wheel and pitch bend and the other keyboard is a digital piano without mod and pitch bend and no sustain pedal connected. After filtering each controller with a transformer to a specific channel you can cable the midi channel filtering transformers to monitor objects which then are cabled to the sequencer input . Select the monitor object cabled to the controller with the mod and pitch bend then cable this monitor object to three transformers. Transformer 1 Condtions for Sustain Status =, Control Channel All Data Byte 1 =, 64 Data Byte 2 Inside, 0, 127 Transformer 2 Condtions for Modulation Status =, Control Channel All Data Byte 1 =, 0 Data Byte 2 Inside, 0, 127 Transformer 3 Condtions for Pitch Bend Status =, Pitchbend Channel All Data Byte 1 All Data Byte 2 Inside, 0, 127 These transformers are then cabled into the monitor object for the digital piano.
Thanks for this! I quit making music for a good bit and recently got back into it. for some reason my old environment routing weren't working like they used to and I was scratching my head trying to get it all to work with my external gear and multiple midi interfaces. Did Not have the auto demix box ticked and I had no idea that that's what it even did. Maybe I had it ticked all those years ago or I had my wacky clustered environment settings to get it to work but once I threw in a midi keyboard in the mix it threw it all out of wack and I was having to go into the environment window every time and change routings. Hopefully when I get home today this does the trick but I'm thinking this is what I was missing/forgetting.
Thank you so much!!! So glad I came across this video!! I was having nightmares trying to figure it out for days!! Now I plugged in my digital piano & Microkey, all working simultaneously in individual tracks! You rock!!! :DD
thank you for this explanation... no other videos seem to even come close to the nail, while you hit right on the head in just a few minutes. Love the shirt thanks, ~Red Comet
You're a genius, and a wonderful tutor, so clear, so elegantly simple and so well presented. Can't thank you enough. I do have one question though, if I didn't have 3 keyboards, but wanted to split one of my two keyboards into multiple sections and each split have it's own channel / instrument - is that possible? I guess I just have to tell the keyboard to make each split have a different midi channel / port number right and then do as this video shows, right?
Zoe Summers Hi Zoe, sorry for the late (super late) reply. You can use an environment Filter object to create a key split within the environment, so all the notes from one key range (say B2 below) go to one soft synth and everything else (C3 above) goes somewhere else.
Hi, Bill. I'm Will from Brazil. I loved your video, I learned a bit more about Logic Pro, but I have not solved an issue that has long bothered me in Logic Pro and that in Sonar it was very easy to solve. I use a workstation and a controller together and always need to direct each channel to a different instrument (use 5 or 6 or more channels with splits in the workstation for live), so playing completely independent and power during a show to turn some instruments on and off. But using auto demix there is an automatic function that when I manage another track, deactivates the track (rec) that was selected and other tracks as well. In the Cakewalk Sonar there is a button that sets the track sounding, in the cubase there is, but in this I can not individualize the channels. You know in Logic Pro how to solve this. I want to have total control of the tracks, when to sound or not, without the automatic rec on/off function ... I tried connecting my workstation in physical input to a different transformer for channels 2, 3 and 4, but it is not possible. For your video, it's as if I needed each workstation channel (as controller) to be a physical input, but de logic in the environment does not create several physical input, only one. Do you know how to solve this in Logic Pro? Thanks
Can you get four controllers to trigger four different sounds in Logic at the same time using Midi instead of using external sounds from external keyboards?
Hi Are you doing I was watching your you tube video. I had a question I’m using Logic Pro x and I have a motu micro lite midi. I have a korg vintage , motif, Hammond sk1 and a Roland octopad. I’m having problems recording individual midis and getting them to play back in logic can you help me with this gestión. I would greatly appreciate it. Abe
Hi! Thanks for this! All clear. One question though. What if one (or more) of the controllers needs to input midi data to more than one midi channel/virtual instruments? To be more specific, in an example: a jam when one keyboard player plays instrument-1 in part A and instrument-2 in part B. I have been playing around with: making two or more transformers AFTER a monitor object, so actually sending to two or more midi channels ; and some volume automation (which I find more reliable than mute automation, especially when cycling) per track to overcome the disadvantage of the first step. Hope my question is clear.Oh... and the reason why I needed to ask this is because my 'solution' sometimes does the job and sometimes doesn't
John Thomas Hi John. Sorry for the late reply - If I’m understanding your question correctly, you could try using a filter and transformer to create a ‘key split’ in the environment, where say everything from B2 down goes to one soft synth and everything above C3 goes to another one.
Hi, i'm having a hard time getting this to work could you help me please ? So i've watched your first tutorial and it works just fine : with the routing directly in the mixer view in MIDI environnment. My e-drums trigger my drums and my keyboard triggers keyboard no problem. But i can't get this to work with the "click and ports" technique. I made sure my Instrument tracks are Channel 1 and 2, but creating transformers doesn't seem to have any effect. My keyboard triggers both keys and drums and my drums triggers both keys and drums as well. Do you have any idea why ? Thanks a lot
Colin Mignot I’m running into this same problem. The transformers don’t seem to change anything and I’m still getting both sounds triggered from both midi controllers! Did you ever get anywhere with this problem? (Incidentally, hi from another Colin. 😉)
@@thepianojuggler Hi Colin hehe, no unfortunately, i haven't dig this much deeper after my comment, but i will. If i ever get this to work i'll let you know in this thread
Hiya mate. Ive had no problem with getting two MIDI controllers to play two separate instruments, however, I can only assign controls to one midi controller at a time. Say I want to take low pass filter out on one instrument, and add reverb to another at the same time. This isn’t possible, and my controller assignments only correspond to the selected instrument. (Yet the keys aren’t). Hope you can help. 🤙🏻
TT Sessions Howdy. I reckon you need to look at using the MIDI Transformer in the environment to look at controller data (CC data) rather than the note values I’m talking about in this video.
@@hirogarimusic Hi and thanks for your helpful tutorial, would you have more precise suggestions on that specific question? I can't find anything related to CC data in the environment…
ok I did it again, and when I did record it worked, I guess it has to be in record mode to work . kinda kooky, but now I just did it again, and it worked like it supposed to. I did a few restarts and did voodoo spells and all of a sudden it works. I think Logic/Apple has dropped the ball on revamping that part of logic. like the screens in the midi Environment suck and are so small . they could really improve that clunky thing. but thanks , now it works.
Hey great vid, and I did all the settings, but even if I set the external keyboards to a single midi channel matching the soft synth, it will still play the other synths if I go to another synth. I've been trying to figure this out for 25 years, not joke and still it is illusive
ive tried this isn logic pro x 10.4.8 but it doesn't work. i can't set individual channels on the transformers like you did in the video. if i change the channel on one it changes it on all of them. is there a different method for my version of logic?? or some step i'm missing. thanks
This is so close to fixing a problem I have but it's the reverse I'm wanting to do. I have a few instruments loaded and my MIDI controller connected. I'm wanting ot be able to switch between MIDI channels on my keyboard and it activate different instruments in Logic. The tracks have been assigned MIDI channels 1-4, I have a monitor setup in the environment and can see which channel my keyboard is sending on but no matter which channel I use all of the tracks are receiving the MIDI signal and playing simultaneously. Any suggestions as to what I should do?
Nick Eklöf Hi Nick. Have a look at the original tutorial (Linked in the video above). It should help you better with the environment and channels deal,
@@hirogarimusic Thanks for the fast response! I actually came to this video after watching the previous one as it hadn't quite solved my problem. In the first video you are using two separate controllers and assigning them to control two synths but in my case I am attempting to use one controller and by switching between the MIDI channels its sending on, be able to control different synths in Logic. My problem is that while the monitor is showing MIDI being sent on channel 1, the instrument tracks that have been assigned to 2-4 are too being activated. I was wondering if there is perhaps a function/transform that I should be inserting in the environment or something? Again, thanks for your response, your videos are great!
@@hirogarimusic Hi! Well l've made some progress after playing about in the environment a bit, it seems that using a channel splitter has allowed me to direct MIDI from my keyboard to the instruments that I've got loaded. Now the only problem is that when I hit record Logic isn't receiving any of that data itself so nothing gets recorded. Solve one problem and create another :-P
Nick Eklöf The environment is a rabbit hole! Try using a splitter to route the output from your channel splitter to both the instrument and a sequencer object to record it.
So I am trying to learn about How to use and create a Modulation Matrix`s In Logic Pro x Where I can group many midi parameters into one patch group and then map or to a physical mod wheel on my midi keyboard So I can have more expression options on one mod wheel can this be done in Logic Pro x ? But I donot know where yo start
my "clicks & ports" window opens without a physical input, why?! And when i create a new one it deletes the other one from mixer view. Im trying to record keys and drum at the same time, it shouldnt be this hard... Keyboard is (Yamaha P-150) via usb to mac , and Drums is (Alesis Strike Pro) via 5-pin midi -> focusrite interface -> mac via thunderbolt. Pls help ur my only hope Bill from Hirogari
To be clear, this will work without having to change anything in the Environment as described here www.logicprohelp.com/instruments-tracks-midi-channels/. Not changing the Environment has the advantages of the session still working if your midi setup changes in the future, or if you share the session with collaborators with a different hardware setups. To achieve the same result, enable "Auto remix by channel if multitrack recording" in Project Settings > Recording and set the send/receive midi channels of your hardware. Using the transformers as you show is nice as you can ignore setting the midi channel on your hardware, but you then need to update the Environment when you update your hardware or share the session.
Yeah, so the method you link to works fine IF you have multiple devices outputting different channels BUT coming in through the SAME input (ie an MPC2000 on ch1, a JP8000 on ch2 and a Proteus on ch3, all daisy chained using MIDI and coming in through the same MIDI Port). My video is about when you have MULTIPLE MIDI devices on different ports, so for example 16ch of MIDI to control that Proteus through Port A on a Midiman 2x2, the JP8000 on Port B as well as a MiniNova via USB direct. Entirely different but similarly appearing issues. In the case of scenario one, the manual for Logic (recapped by LogicProHelp) has a solution. In the case of scenario two, I made this video explaining how I use the Logic Environment to get around that problem of wanting to use MULTIPLE MIDI _PORTS_ not just devices.
Interesting. I may not understand fully but on Logic Pro X 10.3.1 I am using multiple devices on multiple ports also with no central midi interface as you explain, and the Logic Pro Help link above works for me without editing the default Environment (e.g. all ports on Physical Input route to Sum -> Input Notes -> Input View -> Sequencer Input). In my case, I have three devices, each connected directly to the Mac via USB, each appearing as a different Physical Input port. They are: Akai MPK249 - Keyboard - Port A, channel 1 - Drum pads - Port B, channel 10 Yamaha S90XS - Keyboard, Ports 1-5, all set to channel 2 DSI OB-6 - Keyboard, Port 1, channel 3 Essentially port appears to be ignored by the sequencer; it doesn't differentiate Port X, channel 1 from Port Y, channel 1, it just sees channel 1 on any connected port and routes to a track set to channel 1. Not sure if it factors in but I am using the External Instrument plugin in each case...
Márcio Biaso Well easiest solution would be to just record it to one track and then copy it over. Alternatively, you could set the input of the two tracks in the main Arrange window to the same MIDI device/channel and then record them simultaneously.
This is very helpful, my only question is maybe a dumb one...how are the 3 keyboards (or in my case, 6) physically connected to the computer? Is it all USB? Is there some kind of hub?
Allegro SCHOOL OF MUSIC Hi Allegro. Yes, each one of these keyboards is on either a separate USB connection directly to the computer or connected through a multiport MIDI to USB device (midiman 2x2 in my case).
Make sure that you have gone into the Project Properties and selected the 'Autodemux by Channel...' checkbox. Also make sure that the output of the transformers match the inputs on your midi channels.
can i do this and still add a monitor to send one of my controllers to record multi software instruments? the problem i'm having is when i add a monitor in the click and ports section i cant seem to rout(drag) the out to the mixer section. what can i do here?
Miles R You may need to to insert a splitter in the environment if you want to send elsewhere. You can pretty much stack as many splitters as you want, since it’s just data in the environment you don’t have to worry about signal degradation.
Thanks for the video! I have been searching for a solution for a problem that remains after this set up and that is controlling knobs and faders on these tracks independently. Logic has only allowed me to control whats focused and I really don't need that. I really want to control Filters and other parameters on a soft synths in those tracks without having to focus. Do you know if there is a workaround for that?
hristo stoev Hi Hristo. I think what you need to do in that case is to create a series of Filter objects in the environment that take those particular controller changes and send them to where you need them.
HELPPP this video did not work for me! :( I've spent days trying to solve this. In the "click & ports" view when I add the physical input, it automatically deletes the physical input from the Mixer view, which negates the solution from your first video and that's a problem again (all midi instrument make same sound). What do i doooo i love u bill
I'm using Logic X and when I switch the view to Clicks & Ports, I don't have the ports section that you have on the left side of the window. Was this removed in Logic X or is my setup messed up?
Sean Hyland Hi Sean, I’m not that familiar with the environment in Logic X but all the same terms should be there. Try googling for ‘Environment Logic Pro X’ and you’ll probably find someone has solved the same problem you’re having.
not working at all, when i hit record it doesn't even make a new midi region it's not picking up any inputs after i hit record before that, i can hear everything perfectly fine but as soon as i hit record it stops working i followed the steps exactly so i don't know whats up
@@hirogarimusic yes i have, and its still not working, i am trying to use 3 midi controllers, one for a piano, the second for another piano pitched up 50 cents and a third for drums. after doing all the steps in the previous video, i then did all the steps in this video but when i exited the clicks and ports window and it went back to the way it was before, all the midi controllers controlling the one track, tapping the "R" button also does nothing.
@@hirogarimusic i found out that i made a simple mistake: i forgot to klick on the recordbutton in the channel.... :) now it works ... sometimes its so simple ... thx for your reply... greeting from vienna austria
Sorry, but your tip doesn't work for me. I am using Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 with Logic Pro X and am trying to connect an AKAI MPC2000. I have 16 Tracks of midi song data sequenced on 16 tracks 1 thru 16 and Channel 1 thru 16. Problem is Each and every time I enable record (Red R) on each track then press the Record Nothing is recording on the individual tracks. No midi data. Even tried your Capture Data trick but its just a trick. No positive results.
this video is to close to my need, my brain is burned. im trying to make some similar, but with only one keyboard with separated channels by zones on the keyboard
Great vid. Easy to follow, but I have a bone to pick with you. Why are you trying to use Logic 9 for lessons. We all know how different Logic 10 is and you’re trying to teach with a prehistoric software program. For those Logic x users who can’t pull up the environment window, it isn’t com 8. It is com 0 or Choose Window > Open MIDI Environment
1. The environment isn't different between X and 9. 2. Logic 9 isn't prehistoric, particularly when it comes to what I'm demonstrating. 3. The original tutorial was done in 9 (in 2014), this is a follow up. 4. Logic X Users will also need to enable 'Additional MIDI Options' in the Advanced preferences pane before Command 0 will work, or the option will appear in the Window environment.
Hi hiro. Just so you know that wasn’t me who posted the comment. I’m here with three other guys trying to figure out how to record five keyboards into logic. We all want to play our Porch together. If you could shed some light on how to access advance many options because I tried but you show me and I’m getting no sound. And I apologize for my bonehead other friend Mackie. Yes I called him out and his name on TH-cam is Keynator. Lol
Simplest Setup
In a New Project. Open the MIDI Environment CMD-0. Show the Inspector by pressing I. Select the Click & Ports layer. Select the Sequencer Input and in the Inspector select "Channelize".
Now in Project Settings>Recordings check "Auto Demux by Channel if Multitrack Recording".
In the Main Window create two software instrument tracks. In the Inspector under Track Settings assign a "unique midi channel" to each track corresponding to your midi controllers midi channels. "Record enable" both tracks. Each controller will play its respective software instrument track.
About 10 years ago I was trying to figure this out for about a year on and off...wrecked my brain that Logic couldnt do this (so I thought). You Sir...are a GENIUS!!!! Instant Subscribe. Blessings.
Many thanks for this. I was wrestling away with two keyboards and a Mackie MCU Pro in Logic Pro X and a Metric Halo 3d interface, all of which chimed in on everything - if I left Logic with a rec button lit, the Mackie sounded a note each time I touched something. However, now, thanks to you, my Nord is one one channel, the Yamaha KX88 is driving the Korg Triton rack and the Mackie just does its stuff without making its very own random contribution to the sound. Its all separated out and I am so very very grateful!
You’re very welcome. I’m glad the video helped.
Thanks for this information Bill, i've been looking for how to set up many MIDI's at the same time with Garageband and when I realized Garageband didn't have that ability I moved up to Logic, and your video was the best i've seen so far on this topic, thank you for sharing.
You’re very welcome. Thank you!
You are the BEST!!!! I've probably spent 8 hours frustrating myself trying to solve this problem. I found your other video, was super excited, only to realize it wouldn't record :(
I stumbled upon that video again today, and saw your comment from a few days ago about this new video. Thank you so much!
Thank you! Glad it helped!
same here i think
i was about to end it all, you saved my life good sir!!!
dude i feel your pain
Lifesaver! Finally found your video after a year of trying to record a jam of vdrums and piano. All the other videos I watched seemed to glaze over an important step in this process.
YES! So simple and easy to follow. I use this for collaboration. Two people each on separate keyboards writing and coming up with parts. Thank you for doing this!
I'm glad you found it helpful - what a great use for it!
This is exactly what I was searching, stacking few weeks ... deeply appreciate for sharing
You’re very welcome.
I wish I had run across your videos sooner. You have helped me more watching 2 videos than I've gotten just trying to figure this stuff out myself... you rock!!!!
Darian Harris Glad you found it helpful! Thanks!
Thank you so much! I have been looking for this solution for hours and you've explained it really clearly.
You're welcome!
Hi Bill, thank you for your excellent video. You've just save me from a 2 days of headache regarding splitting the midi to logic. You're the best!
Thank you for this. I'd tried other solutions not involving the environment (because I know nothing about it) but your solution made sense, was easy, and so far it works. And one of my controllers is a MPE controller. So, not sure why it works when assigned to only 1 channel but it seems to.
thank you! Very helpful. I couldn't find my midi instruments for some reason and ended up adding them from the same menu that you added transformers from. It's working👍
Thank you, i was thinking of going to Ableton live, but cymbal chokes dont work on Roland V-drums(polyphonic after touch problem/lack of).
The trick is to keep the tracks RECORD ENABLED, and it will record the highlighted one of the record enabled tracks, yet still write data on them, bit strange, but good, as you get more midi data.
Im using a TB03, Roland Vdrums, and Oxygen 8.
So now the TB03, ISNT playing the V-Drums for me!! Awesome, proper smashe dmy head in for weeks.
I do wish the MIDI was a bit easier to understand in Logic, Abletons is much more intuitive,.
Thank you so much for posting up this. Youre a lifesaver!!!
Incredible! Didn't know this (@ 5:14) the whole time I've been recording in Logic!
Thank you very much! I couldn't solve this problem for years until watching your video... Blessings your work...
What a good explanation man. Thank you very much. Without your video I won't be able to figure out how this works. Thanks a lot.
Thank you! I'm glad it helped.
Very useful , this and your previous instruction on multiple midi sources. Thanks so much!
You're welcome! I'm glad they helped you out!
you are the absolute man! i couldn't figure this out for so long and you saved me!
Thanks so much for this! I was so frustrated trying to mess with the MIDI channel on my controller and this worked perfectly!
You’re welcome. I’m glad you found it helpful.
Thanks man you saved me! you should definitely have more views you deserve them! Very clear and well explained i just bought lots of equipment and was getting frustrated! but you helped me out thanks again.
OMG I wasted an entire day yesterday and this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!!!!
You're welcome!!
Really useful, this and your previous one on multiple midi controllers. Thanks so much!
You're welcome!
Fantastic thanks for that. I have spent over 20 years trying to figure that one out. not many vids/sources on this one. I'm hoping the same setup works on external synths the same way. I'm going to try and get back to you
This technique is great when you need a more sophisticated setup such as Sharing Mod, Pitch Bend and Sustain among Multiple Midi Controllers on Different Channels. Why might you want to do this? Well, say you have one keyboard with a sustain pedal, mod wheel and pitch bend and the other keyboard is a digital piano without mod and pitch bend and no sustain pedal connected. After filtering each controller with a transformer to a specific channel you can cable the midi channel filtering transformers to monitor objects which then are cabled to the sequencer input . Select the monitor object cabled to the controller with the mod and pitch bend then cable this monitor object to three transformers.
Transformer 1 Condtions for Sustain
Status =, Control
Channel All
Data Byte 1 =, 64
Data Byte 2 Inside, 0, 127
Transformer 2 Condtions for Modulation
Status =, Control
Channel All
Data Byte 1 =, 0
Data Byte 2 Inside, 0, 127
Transformer 3 Condtions for Pitch Bend
Status =, Pitchbend
Channel All
Data Byte 1 All
Data Byte 2 Inside, 0, 127
These transformers are then cabled into the monitor object for the digital piano.
Thanks for this! I quit making music for a good bit and recently got back into it. for some reason my old environment routing weren't working like they used to and I was scratching my head trying to get it all to work with my external gear and multiple midi interfaces. Did Not have the auto demix box ticked and I had no idea that that's what it even did. Maybe I had it ticked all those years ago or I had my wacky clustered environment settings to get it to work but once I threw in a midi keyboard in the mix it threw it all out of wack and I was having to go into the environment window every time and change routings. Hopefully when I get home today this does the trick but I'm thinking this is what I was missing/forgetting.
Yes! If you'd know how long I was searching for the solution to this problem. Thanks!
Thank you so much!!! So glad I came across this video!! I was having nightmares trying to figure it out for days!! Now I plugged in my digital piano & Microkey, all working simultaneously in individual tracks! You rock!!! :DD
simply explained.. . great work man
Raphael Recordings Thank you! Glad you found it useful!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and your knowledge. You saved my life.
You’re very welcome
This is one of the biggest eye openers
You are a brilliant human being.
You have no idea!! You ROCK. Thanks so much!!
I’m glad you found it useful. Thanks!
THANK YOU!!! I would have never figured this out!
THANKS SO MUCH BRO THAT REALLY HELPED
Thanks!
This is very useful - thanks!
thank you very much! Helped me out loads
Glad it helped!
Thanx a lot ! Only you you explain it the easy way , again
Thank you very much!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you HirogariMusic!
Hey mate i just wanna thank you for the video. Amazing job!
Thank you!
thank you for this explanation... no other videos seem to even come close to the nail, while you hit right on the head in just a few minutes. Love the shirt
thanks,
~Red Comet
Thank you very much!
very nice video and a basic question how to set midi channel port for the keyboard before launching the midi environment?
I think that would be a setting on your keyboard.
You're a genius, and a wonderful tutor, so clear, so elegantly simple and so well presented. Can't thank you enough.
I do have one question though, if I didn't have 3 keyboards, but wanted to split one of my two keyboards into multiple sections and each split have it's own channel / instrument - is that possible? I guess I just have to tell the keyboard to make each split have a different midi channel / port number right and then do as this video shows, right?
Zoe Summers Hi Zoe, sorry for the late (super late) reply. You can use an environment Filter object to create a key split within the environment, so all the notes from one key range (say B2 below) go to one soft synth and everything else (C3 above) goes somewhere else.
@@hirogarimusic thx !this is very useful too!
PERFECT! PERFECT! Its clean, logic! Thank you for this incredible help!
Hi, Bill. I'm Will from Brazil. I
loved your video, I learned a bit more about Logic Pro, but I have not
solved an issue that has long bothered me in Logic Pro and that in Sonar
it was very easy to solve. I use a workstation
and a controller together and always need to direct each channel to a
different instrument (use 5 or 6 or more channels with splits in the
workstation for live), so playing completely independent and power during a show
to turn some instruments on and off. But using
auto demix there is an automatic function that when I manage another
track, deactivates the track (rec) that was selected and other tracks as
well. In the Cakewalk Sonar there is a button that sets
the track sounding, in the cubase there is, but in this I can not
individualize the channels. You know in Logic Pro how to solve this. I want to have total control of the tracks, when to sound or not, without the automatic rec on/off function ... I tried connecting my workstation in physical input to a different transformer for channels 2, 3 and 4, but it is not possible. For your video, it's as if I needed each workstation channel (as controller) to be a physical input, but de logic in the environment does not create several physical input, only one. Do you know how to solve this in Logic Pro? Thanks
Legendary, thank you
You’re welcome.
Can you get four controllers to trigger four different sounds in Logic at the same time using Midi instead of using external sounds from external keyboards?
Sure can. Check the previous tutorial linked in the description of this one.
@@hirogarimusic I found it! Thank you so much!
Omg, thank you. Been pulling hair out over this for ages..
Hi Are you doing I was watching your you tube video. I had a question I’m using Logic Pro x and I have a motu micro lite midi. I have a korg vintage , motif, Hammond sk1 and a Roland octopad. I’m having problems recording individual midis and getting them to play back in logic can you help me with this gestión. I would greatly appreciate it. Abe
PDR CIGARS Hi. Exactly what problem are you having?
Hi! Thanks for this! All clear. One question though. What if one (or more) of the controllers needs to input midi data to more than one midi channel/virtual instruments? To be more specific, in an example: a jam when one keyboard player plays instrument-1 in part A and instrument-2 in part B. I have been playing around with: making two or more transformers AFTER a monitor object, so actually sending to two or more midi channels ; and some volume automation (which I find more reliable than mute automation, especially when cycling) per track to overcome the disadvantage of the first step. Hope my question is clear.Oh... and the reason why I needed to ask this is because my 'solution' sometimes does the job and sometimes doesn't
John Thomas Hi John. Sorry for the late reply - If I’m understanding your question correctly, you could try using a filter and transformer to create a ‘key split’ in the environment, where say everything from B2 down goes to one soft synth and everything above C3 goes to another one.
Hi, i'm having a hard time getting this to work could you help me please ?
So i've watched your first tutorial and it works just fine : with the routing directly in the mixer view in MIDI environnment. My e-drums trigger my drums and my keyboard triggers keyboard no problem.
But i can't get this to work with the "click and ports" technique. I made sure my Instrument tracks are Channel 1 and 2, but creating transformers doesn't seem to have any effect. My keyboard triggers both keys and drums and my drums triggers both keys and drums as well.
Do you have any idea why ?
Thanks a lot
Colin Mignot I’m running into this same problem. The transformers don’t seem to change anything and I’m still getting both sounds triggered from both midi controllers! Did you ever get anywhere with this problem? (Incidentally, hi from another Colin. 😉)
@@thepianojuggler Hi Colin hehe, no unfortunately, i haven't dig this much deeper after my comment, but i will.
If i ever get this to work i'll let you know in this thread
WHY YOU ARE GREAT THANKYOU
Hiya mate. Ive had no problem with getting two MIDI controllers to play two separate instruments, however, I can only assign controls to one midi controller at a time. Say I want to take low pass filter out on one instrument, and add reverb to another at the same time. This isn’t possible, and my controller assignments only correspond to the selected instrument. (Yet the keys aren’t). Hope you can help. 🤙🏻
TT Sessions Howdy. I reckon you need to look at using the MIDI Transformer in the environment to look at controller data (CC data) rather than the note values I’m talking about in this video.
hirogarimusic after hours of messing around. I can not configure it. Exhausted with trying now 😂😂
@@hirogarimusic Hi and thanks for your helpful tutorial, would you have more precise suggestions on that specific question? I can't find anything related to CC data in the environment…
ok I did it again, and when I did record it worked, I guess it has to be in record mode to work . kinda kooky, but now I just did it again, and it worked like it supposed to. I did a few restarts and did voodoo spells and all of a sudden it works. I think Logic/Apple has dropped the ball on revamping that part of logic. like the screens in the midi Environment suck and are so small . they could really improve that clunky thing. but thanks , now it works.
Amaaaaaazing. Thank you so much :D
No problem 😊
Hey great vid, and I did all the settings, but even if I set the external keyboards to a single midi channel matching the soft synth, it will still play the other synths if I go to another synth. I've been trying to figure this out for 25 years, not joke and still it is illusive
ive tried this isn logic pro x 10.4.8 but it doesn't work. i can't set individual channels on the transformers like you did in the video. if i change the channel on one it changes it on all of them. is there a different method for my version of logic?? or some step i'm missing. thanks
Have you seen the earlier tutorial this one builds on?
This is so close to fixing a problem I have but it's the reverse I'm wanting to do. I have a few instruments loaded and my MIDI controller connected. I'm wanting ot be able to switch between MIDI channels on my keyboard and it activate different instruments in Logic. The tracks have been assigned MIDI channels 1-4, I have a monitor setup in the environment and can see which channel my keyboard is sending on but no matter which channel I use all of the tracks are receiving the MIDI signal and playing simultaneously. Any suggestions as to what I should do?
Nick Eklöf Hi Nick. Have a look at the original tutorial (Linked in the video above). It should help you better with the environment and channels deal,
@@hirogarimusic Thanks for the fast response! I actually came to this video after watching the previous one as it hadn't quite solved my problem. In the first video you are using two separate controllers and assigning them to control two synths but in my case I am attempting to use one controller and by switching between the MIDI channels its sending on, be able to control different synths in Logic. My problem is that while the monitor is showing MIDI being sent on channel 1, the instrument tracks that have been assigned to 2-4 are too being activated. I was wondering if there is perhaps a function/transform that I should be inserting in the environment or something? Again, thanks for your response, your videos are great!
Nick Eklöf Try using a filter or transform looking at what channel the notes are coming in on and passing that to the track/device you waht
@@hirogarimusic Hi! Well l've made some progress after playing about in the environment a bit, it seems that using a channel splitter has allowed me to direct MIDI from my keyboard to the instruments that I've got loaded. Now the only problem is that when I hit record Logic isn't receiving any of that data itself so nothing gets recorded. Solve one problem and create another :-P
Nick Eklöf The environment is a rabbit hole! Try using a splitter to route the output from your channel splitter to both the instrument and a sequencer object to record it.
How do you make this happen with monitor tracks (like the ones in your last video)? Thanks!
Hello thanks for sharing. How did you connect your midi controllers in just one computer ?
Each keyboard is connected via a separate USB input through a hub.
Thanks for the information and time to make this video. It is really helpful.
So I am trying to learn about How to use and create a Modulation Matrix`s In Logic Pro x
Where I can group many midi parameters into one patch group and then map or to a physical mod wheel on my midi keyboard
So I can have more expression options on one mod wheel
can this be done in Logic Pro x ?
But I donot know where yo start
what if i have something that can split and send on 2 channels. how would i go about setting that up?
my "clicks & ports" window opens without a physical input, why?! And when i create a new one it deletes the other one from mixer view. Im trying to record keys and drum at the same time, it shouldnt be this hard... Keyboard is (Yamaha P-150) via usb to mac , and Drums is (Alesis Strike Pro) via 5-pin midi -> focusrite interface -> mac via thunderbolt. Pls help ur my only hope Bill from Hirogari
To be clear, this will work without having to change anything in the Environment as described here www.logicprohelp.com/instruments-tracks-midi-channels/. Not changing the Environment has the advantages of the session still working if your midi setup changes in the future, or if you share the session with collaborators with a different hardware setups. To achieve the same result, enable "Auto remix by channel if multitrack recording" in Project Settings > Recording and set the send/receive midi channels of your hardware. Using the transformers as you show is nice as you can ignore setting the midi channel on your hardware, but you then need to update the Environment when you update your hardware or share the session.
Yeah, so the method you link to works fine IF you have multiple devices outputting different channels BUT coming in through the SAME input (ie an MPC2000 on ch1, a JP8000 on ch2 and a Proteus on ch3, all daisy chained using MIDI and coming in through the same MIDI Port).
My video is about when you have MULTIPLE MIDI devices on different ports, so for example 16ch of MIDI to control that Proteus through Port A on a Midiman 2x2, the JP8000 on Port B as well as a MiniNova via USB direct.
Entirely different but similarly appearing issues.
In the case of scenario one, the manual for Logic (recapped by LogicProHelp) has a solution. In the case of scenario two, I made this video explaining how I use the Logic Environment to get around that problem of wanting to use MULTIPLE MIDI _PORTS_ not just devices.
Interesting. I may not understand fully but on Logic Pro X 10.3.1 I am using multiple devices on multiple ports also with no central midi interface as you explain, and the Logic Pro Help link above works for me without editing the default Environment (e.g. all ports on Physical Input route to Sum -> Input Notes -> Input View -> Sequencer Input).
In my case, I have three devices, each connected directly to the Mac via USB, each appearing as a different Physical Input port. They are:
Akai MPK249
- Keyboard - Port A, channel 1
- Drum pads - Port B, channel 10
Yamaha S90XS
- Keyboard, Ports 1-5, all set to channel 2
DSI OB-6
- Keyboard, Port 1, channel 3
Essentially port appears to be ignored by the sequencer; it doesn't differentiate Port X, channel 1 from Port Y, channel 1, it just sees channel 1 on any connected port and routes to a track set to channel 1.
Not sure if it factors in but I am using the External Instrument plugin in each case...
Makes sense and agree. The Logic Pro Environment is powerful and deserves more attention. Kudos for experimenting and sharing the information.
amazing, thankyou so much
THANK YOU!!!!
Great!
hey man! how do i record the same midi controller in 2 or more different tracks at the same time?
Márcio Biaso Well easiest solution would be to just record it to one track and then copy it over. Alternatively, you could set the input of the two tracks in the main Arrange window to the same MIDI device/channel and then record them simultaneously.
This is very helpful, my only question is maybe a dumb one...how are the 3 keyboards (or in my case, 6) physically connected to the computer? Is it all USB? Is there some kind of hub?
Allegro SCHOOL OF MUSIC Hi Allegro. Yes, each one of these keyboards is on either a separate USB connection directly to the computer or connected through a multiport MIDI to USB device (midiman 2x2 in my case).
Thank you, Bill!
Having a problem with my top channel playing 2 different sounds at once and i believe i followed the way you said. can you help?
Make sure that you have gone into the Project Properties and selected the 'Autodemux by Channel...' checkbox. Also make sure that the output of the transformers match the inputs on your midi channels.
And make sure your record buttons are all pressed and red. Otherwise they won't record.
Daniel Kwon Good point. Even the best of us miss the obvious sometimes. ^_^
THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!
You are very welcome!
Wow ! Thank you so much!
Great tut!! Thanx
You´re a star!!!! Thank you so much! it worked!!!
Thank you! Glad you found it useful!
Awesome thanks so much!
can i do this and still add a monitor to send one of my controllers to record multi software instruments? the problem i'm having is when i add a monitor in the click and ports section i cant seem to rout(drag) the out to the mixer section. what can i do here?
Miles R You may need to to insert a splitter in the environment if you want to send elsewhere. You can pretty much stack as many splitters as you want, since it’s just data in the environment you don’t have to worry about signal degradation.
hi how you do this for Logic Pro X ? i am having a hard time with this
Thanx so much - U are genius!
Thanks for the video! I have been searching for a solution for a problem that remains after this set up and that is controlling knobs and faders on these tracks independently. Logic has only allowed me to control whats focused and I really don't need that. I really want to control Filters and other parameters on a soft synths in those tracks without having to focus. Do you know if there is a workaround for that?
hristo stoev Hi Hristo. I think what you need to do in that case is to create a series of Filter objects in the environment that take those particular controller changes and send them to where you need them.
even with the fix thing, when I connect to sequencer it does not give me separate sound..? is it just me..?
Merci beaucoup 🙏
De rien
Thanks buddy :)
Glad you found it useful. Thank you!
Thank you😎🎧🎚🇬🇧
TheAardvarkguy No problem. Glad you found it helpful. ✌🏻
HELPPP this video did not work for me! :( I've spent days trying to solve this. In the "click & ports" view when I add the physical input, it automatically deletes the physical input from the Mixer view, which negates the solution from your first video and that's a problem again (all midi instrument make same sound). What do i doooo i love u bill
I'm using Logic X and when I switch the view to Clicks & Ports, I don't have the ports section that you have on the left side of the window. Was this removed in Logic X or is my setup messed up?
Sean Hyland Hi Sean, I’m not that familiar with the environment in Logic X but all the same terms should be there. Try googling for ‘Environment Logic Pro X’ and you’ll probably find someone has solved the same problem you’re having.
I'm having a similar issue. It that a physical input that you're routing to the transformer ?
there is no box in the new logic but you can still click in that area and the drop down comes up
not working at all, when i hit record it doesn't even make a new midi region
it's not picking up any inputs after i hit record
before that, i can hear everything perfectly fine but as soon as i hit record it stops working
i followed the steps exactly so i don't know whats up
Hi. This is the follow up to an earlier tutorial (linked in the description). Have you done all the steps from that one?
@@hirogarimusic yes i have, and its still not working, i am trying to use 3 midi controllers, one for a piano, the second for another piano pitched up 50 cents and a third for drums. after doing all the steps in the previous video, i then did all the steps in this video but when i exited the clicks and ports window and it went back to the way it was before, all the midi controllers controlling the one track, tapping the "R" button also does nothing.
Hmmm. Not sure then. Something in the setup maybe? Without being in front of your rig, not sure I can help...
@@hirogarimusic i'm just gonna mess around with the setting until it works
but still, thanks for the head start
i did everything you told but it dont works ... i have n akai mpk 88 and a roland td1 v drums.... logic x
Have you seen the earlier tutorial this one builds on?
@@hirogarimusic i found out that i made a simple mistake: i forgot to klick on the recordbutton in the channel.... :) now it works ... sometimes its so simple ... thx for your reply... greeting from vienna austria
@@hirogarimusic no but i going to do it
thx
@@audioscape1976 Fantastic! Glad there was a solution!
Sorry, but your tip doesn't work for me. I am using Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 with Logic Pro X and am trying to connect an AKAI MPC2000. I have 16 Tracks of midi song data sequenced on 16 tracks 1 thru 16 and Channel 1 thru 16. Problem is Each and every time I enable record (Red R) on each track then press the Record Nothing is recording on the individual tracks. No midi data. Even tried your Capture Data trick but its just a trick. No positive results.
Thank you
You're welcome!
this video is to close to my need, my brain is burned. im trying to make some similar, but with only one keyboard with separated channels by zones on the keyboard
please guide me
I am about to head off to Japan for two weeks, but I will put up a video for you when I return! Look for it in a few weeks!
Antonio Osses Here it is - how to make keyboard splits and record them: th-cam.com/video/__2YrWmBv9g/w-d-xo.html
hirogarimusic you're great bro, i will turn on my studio again!! And will send a video when its works
Great vid. Easy to follow, but I have a bone to pick with you. Why are you trying to use Logic 9 for lessons. We all know how different Logic 10 is and you’re trying to teach with a prehistoric software program. For those Logic x users who can’t pull up the environment window, it isn’t com 8. It is com 0 or Choose Window > Open MIDI Environment
1. The environment isn't different between X and 9.
2. Logic 9 isn't prehistoric, particularly when it comes to what I'm demonstrating.
3. The original tutorial was done in 9 (in 2014), this is a follow up.
4. Logic X Users will also need to enable 'Additional MIDI Options' in the Advanced preferences pane before Command 0 will work, or the option will appear in the Window environment.
Hi hiro. Just so you know that wasn’t me who posted the comment. I’m here with three other guys trying to figure out how to record five keyboards into logic. We all want to play our Porch together. If you could shed some light on how to access advance many options because I tried but you show me and I’m getting no sound. And I apologize for my bonehead other friend Mackie. Yes I called him out and his name on TH-cam is Keynator. Lol