Played this build on delirium. Absolute beast. I recommend picking up jewel with konckback chance on hit, and put annoiment from casia on amulet for knockback. I hope ball lighting and miner will be not heavy nerfeted so I can start with this build again :)
Hey Matth, is there anything changed since you've published video?) Planning to try same build for 3.13 start, but I haven't played miners before and not aware about changes from last couple of patches.
"how strong minors can be" yeah man, those kids at the sandbox always kick my ass when I pass the park. Jokes aside, this is great you have convinced me on my next league starter ^^
In your POB you are using hypothermia in your ball lightning 6 link. What’s the reason for that and do you recommended it over your video gem links? Thanks!! Great vid. I pray ball lightning miner is looked over by GGG. It’s so fun and crazy good.
Path of Matth hi, been playing this build to lvl 88 and it’s great. However, how do you sustain mana? My 6 link ball lightning consumes 24 mana per mine so it’s very expensive. Despite my mana flask, I often go oom esp during boss fights. Thanks.
Hey man! Thanks so much for this video. I think I'll be doing this as a league starter! Quick question, will you have any info of a leveling guide/written guide? I have your pastebin on PoB, but I just want to make sure I have everything correct for the skill tree. Would it go something like this? Assassination/Saboteur > High Explosives > Phase Acro > Fill in the small nodes before heading to witch area > Finish up heading to Devotion And the ascendancy going: Bomb Specialist > Pyromaniac > Explosives Expert > Born in the Shadows? Sorry if you talked about this in the video and I didn't see. Thanks again!
I tried this entire league to figure out why I was dying so much with BL. Apparently the answer was lack of Acro/Phase Acro (and not skipping Delirium), so thanks for that.
Bit late, but he has the detonate mines tied to his left click, so as you move around it's automatically triggering. It's a nice trick for miner builds, it also works for warcrys.
I guess another (hidden?) plus is that since tremor rods are usually pretty cheap, getting two and 5l one (prophecy?) then use that while throwing fuses on the other is very nice in early stages off the league. Skipping the tabula is also ~20c extra to spend on other things.
@@pathofmatthI didn't buy it, i sold it for 40c (got for 7c day 1) I linked mine to 6 links so sold 5s, admittedly it was 2 off perfect but I sold a meh one for 35c aswell , made me v happy day 2 Edit: poe.ninja shows 38c-33c first 2 days so about right for mine even if I was lucky
i would like to make this build my starter in harverst but im not used to PoB . how can i see the skill point to put in order ? like to lvl 0 until 20 , 21 to 40 , etc ? so far i only used arc totem hierophant kikarazu+soul mantle build . its verry good for clean map but not for boss , i will be able to play this build ? thk you
to the people playing this build, do you have mana issues too? I can't play a single map without using my flask and in the video he barely touches his mana while he is fighting mr. Chicken
If you dont have it get the "Enduring" prefix on your mana flask, that makes it so it doesnt stop even if you are at full mana so basically you regen all the time whith your flask piano
can you post some levelling explanation-guide? i.e. what gems to use/what passives take first and so on? really nice build, whant to try it on the new league :)
Mines being able to be detonated again AND the 7th link is crazy hard to beat I guess farm t16 tower for "the tower" cards and use your ancient orbs on staffs, but afaik there's no guaranteed way I've dropped 2 so far in ssf, it's not t1 rarity
Hey Path of Matth im currently trying out your build, i think its really good for a starter but im having trouble with my strength, i need 191 strength to be able to use the kaom's heart. How did you fix that problem?
Alira is a very good choice early in general (easier gearing) and usually the go to for crit builds (except very high char lvl where a jewel socket might be better). For Miner the mana regen is also great.
So started this build today. pretty smooth leveling so far using dual axiom's... Lvl 59 now, and just got tremor rod so was juggling around some gear and started using Malachai's Artifice to apply EE with armageddon brand.... the problem is my tooltip is showing some lightning damage on the brand from Herald of Thunder... doesn't this basically screw up my EE? or at least make it only half as effective? Please let me know.. thx.
Yeah. Herald of Thunder is going to add lightning damage to your armageddon brand, which will add resistance to your enemies. I’d recommend something like Wrath or Zealotry instead if you need a damage aura.
hey man, thanks for the build,I want to use this build for the next league, but im new and im not sure about how to level it, i would appreciate it if you could elaborate on this part
I'd go with the trap boots, with ball lighting/arc socketed in them. This way you have a pseudo 5link for leveling, until you get all the right gear. But this is just me!!!!
Use stormblast mines and take all the mine nodes on the tree. Take some life and mana too. Use orb of storm for additional dps and you'll do the acts easily
Did you end up running this in Harvest? BL and slower proj got hella nerfed, but I think for your purposes the end result is probably a buff and they mostly nerfed my archmage shotgunners?
@@pathofmatth I might build one cos I'm finding the midgame of my ice crash build to be a little expensive. Maybe need to play something else to carry this into t16s
@@pathofmatth So my ice crash raider kinda stalled out a bit and I'm thinking of trying this build out. How's the bossing? I'm still newish to the game and haven't cleared all the uber bosses before. Would you suggest this if I've already got a build that's in red maps (struggling a little, but there)? It does look fun.
@Path of Matth why you didn't go for Hearth of thunder or Breath of lightning? What build is more stupid-friendly - this one or toxic rain trickster(i mean which would survive better Sirus of-screen shit)? Thank you in advance
dont need it, its fairly minimal damage, the tree is also very low lvl, so you can get it if you really want to tbh. I think mines and TR Trickster are both amazing, but they have very different playstyles, so it comes down to what you enjoy playing more
@@pathofmatth ok, thank you for answer. Also do you have suggestion what to upgrade to take this starter build to "uber cleaner" as like Witch spellslinger volatile dead?
Awesome build , my go to top league started and end game push next season.ty for the awesome guide.also, has been any changes with the new league announcement and if there if could you kindly give any updates we should know about or changes.this will be my first time playing miner n I really regret no seeing this build earlier. Ty once again ;)
@@ВладПотапенко-б6э yeah, but i've seen only 1 really dodgy trapper - angry roleplayer build (th-cam.com/video/xAEfDkXPLTY/w-d-xo.html) and that's it. Other trappers have shity dodge compare to it
It has decent Regen if you occasionally use mines, and the boss fight is a joke It's definitely viable, but it's nowhere near as good as a lab farm build
Popularity: About 12% roughly (top build at start) of players used this for delerium including myself as tytykiller promoted it last league - very strong and cheap - the pre Nerf delirium made it a high death char as standing still but it made made me enough to swap chars I spent 7c for day1 tremor (as huge demand) managed to six link one day 2 sold my 5 link for 40c day 2 Koams was 98c ish when I got it Good starter and if it's not nerfed I can't not play again but it definitely suffers from it's popularity
@@Oxbow861 Google Path of Building. It's a program that allows you to test out builds and see actual numbers. But in the description of this video he has a "PoB" pastebin link. Once you open up Path of Building, click the "Import/Export Build" button in the top left. Then there will be a button that says "Import from pastebin." You can just copy and paste the link he provided in that box and it will show you his full build and tree. As you are progressing just make sure you alternate between the life/survivability nodes and the damage stuff. If you still need more help there are lots of other Miner leveling build guides on TH-cam. Hope that helps brother
@@Oxbow861 Here's a link to the download page for Path of Building. It's easiest to just use the Setup.exe but there's also a Zip file if you want to go that route. github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases
My favorite ability in Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance back in the day was Ball Lightning so I've wanted to play that skill since I got deep into PoE (3.5) but never have found a good self cast build. I've never done mines but I don't think I've ever seen a league start capable pseudo 4L easily clear T16s so I may look in to this build. Thanks!
Hey man I appreciate your content. By looking into your videos I've made the most amount of currency playing poe this league as opposed to my previous.(maybe like 15ex, which isn't too much but I'm not too hardcore of a player and the highest level I've reached is 89 if I recall correctly). And I haven't even sat down to watch all of your videos. I'm sure there's much more to learn. btw this was my first ever league flipping and your videos have helped a lot. Also one last thing, I've never played a trapper/miner before and was wondering if reflect would be an issue for this kind of build, might try it next league.
Hey Matth ,i've actually went ahead and leveled up a shadow,started doing your build,i'm currently level 89 ,so yea ,i can confirm that this build can handle any content the game has to offer,i only spent like 2ex on it ? even with the 6l tremor since i got it for an ex .but my question is ,how can we take this build further? where can we improve on damage mainly since survivability is enough.
@@pathofmatth well, i destroyed all the endgame content with your build.This will surely be my league starter for Harvest league,thanks for the cool build mate
@@pathofmatth I just mean in your PoB that's linked to this video has different gear (slightly) and different skills linked together hence why I am confused as to why you have it disabled in the PoB but in the video it's enabled.
@@paselitoru the PoB has both the single aura setup (early game) and the "end game" setup with wrath once you gain access to a lvl 3 enlighten. Then you drop infernal legion and can acquire fire dmg somewhere on the build. I guess I'll makea build / tree video with the options available haha
Couple leagues ago I played GC miner and I used Kaoms roots and it should be easy to farm up div cards for it. Roots also give you massive boost in HP while keeping links in chest so you can even opt for shield set up. If you are interested in ES based miner check out bearleague's guide on forum there is plenty of information there.
I was looking at playing this in new league and just read the patch notes, they BUFFED Ball Lightning. Ball Lightning Now deals 3 to 57 Lightning Damage at gem level 1 (from 3 to 48), to 28 to 533 Lightning Damage at gem level 20 (from 22 to 426). Now has an added Damage effectiveness of 50% (from 40%). Now costs 12 mana at gem level 1 (from 13), up to 23 mana at gem level 20 (from 25). 😂🤣
this was my league starter as well. I am not a fan of tremor rod so I skipped it and started straight as wand/scepter. while a good league starter, the ceiling is pretty low and I would not use it to farm for more than 2 weeks into the league.i farmed about 200 ex on my miner then swapped to harold early into league. not sure if I will repeat doing miner. I think cyclone slayer might be a better league starter depending on the farming strategy.
Which is very bad decision due to Blastchain support. To maximize your damage you have to detonate only One time. In this case every mine in sequence will deal 5% more damage with every blast. Second Detonation will start a second chain of blasts with separate "5% more damage for each mine in sequence" bonus. All you need is stack up a 20-25 mines then detonate it one time and then keep throwing addition mines while first ones are detonating. All this bullshit shows you a nice damage bonus, 35+ mine in sequence will have a 170%+ more damage and thats what important. If you'll be fast enough you'll see a literally triple damage of your mines. Ofc it depends of your throwing speed, so pay some attention to this stat. In this video detonation occurs a several times in second. There is absolutely NO bonus from Blastchain support. What actually means this build a much more powerful.
Miner is always the easiest league starter since you don't need more than a wand /staff with a bit of spell dmg or tremor rod. The only other that can do this withput currency and equipment is essence drain, but has the problem that for endgame is pretty expensive to min max, but mines always cost nothing.
Well, I've been playing BL since metamorphe. All I can say that all you need for this build is a Tremor Rod. Now I'm playing SSF Delirium and I'm using a craft wand (spell + critical by using essences) and a shield. Using this combination will increase your survivebility. Btw, Tremor Rod drop is pretty good. I got two during my SSF leveling. You can also use Arc. Mapping with Arc and bossing with BL. Please dont nerf BL GGG 😭😭😭😭
@@porkypie1231 your Tremor rod should look like this: 1R, 2G, 3B. Arc main gems: Controlled Destruction Trap Damage Swift Assembly. BL main gems: Slower Projectiles or Greater Projec. Swift Assembly. The reason for that is bc u can use Swift Assembly and Minefield, throwing 21 mines as fast as you can on the ground when you're bossing. pastebin.com/kJke9X0B
No, Archmage wasn't intended to work the way it did with SB and brand recall. It was an oversight that will be fixed. This build wasn't popular or over abused this league so I am sure that it isn't even on the Dev's radar.
Great build, bro, tested it out rerolling a mid 70's shadow I had here and it work great with little to no currency. What would you do to improve damage of this build?
If you want to level with a miner, you should go with stormblast mines and orb of storm. You take SB mine, link it with trap and mine damage, swift assembly, and something else that does damage, take every mine node on the tree, take the mana and life on kill nodes near shadow tree start and you should level your shadow easily. For other links you can do OOS + added lightning and CoH+curse or pcoc or faster casting. Use smoke mine for movement, and stack a lot of mines on bosses while they talk before fighting. Also take lightning spire trap for bosses, it helps
Tried akanes ball lightning miner and it was rly nice. u can facetank EVERYTHING with 3k life. A little bit of flask cluster abuse but yeah...nearly every build does it by now. Also dmg isnt rly that high bcause u invest a lot in survivability but ball lightning still does his work. It just gets a bit more expensive if u want some more dmg. I love miners in general but always had the problem that u cant lay and instant detonate with most spells. But it works perfect with ball lightning AND the balls also target enemies theirself. Have also an icicle sabo and hes extremly nice for bossing but gets nuked against huge crowds of enemies which is pretty normal in delirium so i did quit it. Also good idea with detonate on left mouse button ;) i normally run phase run there.
I'm online basically at all times, I'm only basically ever "playing" when I'm streaming, otherwise I'm afk or talking with people, as for how much time I spend making currency, about 1/3rd of my time streaming is spent actively trying to make currency, since the majority of the time I'm just answering questions and whatnot
the mine itself doesnt gain charges, but the mines arent the ones using mana, YOU are, so you gain the charges which affects your global spell dmg / crit chance which affects your mines in turn
All you need is a little bit more aoe in the tree and you’ll still be hitting the max amount of damage ticks on most enemies. And ball lightning gem got buffed anyways so it’s still an amazing starter
No you are right. But in this league it was so easy to get currency.. specially for gmaers who farm like 8-10 hours each day.^^ I left the League 3 weeks ago with 10 Mirrors and 2k Exalts.. (Without selling all the items out of my stash.) So I mean.. when you know, how to get or make currency, it´s so easy.. flipping currency is a good way. (As example Essences.) Buy many Essences and sell them in bulk. Trades are shit. when you have 40 good essences of one type, you can sell one for 14c instead of 3-5c. :) Because people are lazy.
Oh man, I forgot to shoutout the patreons!!! Sorry boys, love you guys and appreciate the support!
Hi is it working if i Link infernal legion to skitterbots and dont use malach?
Is it viable hc?
True league starter if the build works on a 3 to 4 link set up. I cleared all the way to red maps with my Creepinfrost Miner on 4 links.
3:10 "tremor rod will be cheap" - day 2 tremor rod 110 c
Ikr
Homie just chilling with a cool 6 mirrors and 200 ex.
lol, shit didn't even see that
at least he is not using disgusting mirror tier gear
Path of trade jew
makes 20 chaos build but has 6 mirrors and doesnt abuse herald stacker jewels. respect
It's for 3.11 league start. Herald abuser gonna get nurfed then
Played this build on delirium. Absolute beast. I recommend picking up jewel with konckback chance on hit, and put annoiment from casia on amulet for knockback. I hope ball lighting and miner will be not heavy nerfeted so I can start with this build again :)
Hey Matth, is there anything changed since you've published video?)
Planning to try same build for 3.13 start, but I haven't played miners before and not aware about changes from last couple of patches.
im wondering this too
@@jmkeff Found by myself that he've made a video about that here: th-cam.com/video/oYkFNXlASK8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=PathofMatth
Biggest take away I have from this, denote mines on left mouse. How have I played miner so long without knowing this...
Same hahahaha
Just don't do it on builds where chaining the mines matter
why is detonating better in left mouse button?
@@porkypie1231 Because mines will trigger automatically when you move, always hitting detonate is one of the worst part of playing a miner tbh
@@charo703 Or just make a macro on your mouse/ keyboard that repeatedly detonates ?
"how strong minors can be" yeah man, those kids at the sandbox always kick my ass when I pass the park.
Jokes aside, this is great you have convinced me on my next league starter ^^
hi thank you for this video can you update the pob link for the optimal version of the items to have when you are done ?
I like the fact that you dont make some kind of regular meta builds with super high budget while you are super rich :)
In your POB you are using hypothermia in your ball lightning 6 link. What’s the reason for that and do you recommended it over your video gem links? Thanks!! Great vid. I pray ball lightning miner is looked over by GGG. It’s so fun and crazy good.
its a toooon of sinngle target dmg, at no cost unlike say controlled destruction 😁
Path of Matth hi, been playing this build to lvl 88 and it’s great. However, how do you sustain mana? My 6 link ball lightning consumes 24 mana per mine so it’s very expensive. Despite my mana flask, I often go oom esp during boss fights. Thanks.
Hey man! Thanks so much for this video. I think I'll be doing this as a league starter! Quick question, will you have any info of a leveling guide/written guide? I have your pastebin on PoB, but I just want to make sure I have everything correct for the skill tree. Would it go something like this?
Assassination/Saboteur > High Explosives > Phase Acro > Fill in the small nodes before heading to witch area > Finish up heading to Devotion
And the ascendancy going: Bomb Specialist > Pyromaniac > Explosives Expert > Born in the Shadows?
Sorry if you talked about this in the video and I didn't see. Thanks again!
The most RIP mechanic was the start of betrayal league. Intervention was the most RIP. Until it got nerfed.
Why intelligence over elemental damage first 5 skills?
Man your vids are great dude. You speak very well and organized which is pretty rare on youtube. Thanks for the content.
thank you sir!
This still viable for next build you think?
I tried this entire league to figure out why I was dying so much with BL. Apparently the answer was lack of Acro/Phase Acro (and not skipping Delirium), so thanks for that.
Mine with Purifying Flame is a well balanced build in both defensive and offensive. Entire screen will be covered with consecrated ground.
Sounds just as much fun as CwC portal
@@nimyron3536 blastchain mine support amplifies damage if there are several mines detonated in sequence. Screen dps can't capture those numbers.
inb4 GGG nerfs tremor rod + saboteur + mines + ball lightning IN ONE PATCH
jokes aside, thanks for the build :)
They already nerfed mines so I'd say we're safe
How crazy that it seemed impossible to have a spell on left click as well as move : / thankyou!
Dude I saw this and thought god damn it how easy...
What's you're take on the patch notes? Is ball lightning damage increase enough to offset change to slower projectiles?
is there any specific type of defence for your rare gear, or can I wear whatever has good stats, no matter if Armour, Evasion or ES?
how can you cast mines that fast ? it looks like you are casting the lightning ball not putting mines and then detonating them
Bit late, but he has the detonate mines tied to his left click, so as you move around it's automatically triggering. It's a nice trick for miner builds, it also works for warcrys.
Can't have enough theory crafting in this game. Keep up the good work
For some reason i cant bind detonate mines on left mouse button. its greyed out. Can anyone help me out ??
I guess another (hidden?) plus is that since tremor rods are usually pretty cheap, getting two and 5l one (prophecy?) then use that while throwing fuses on the other is very nice in early stages off the league. Skipping the tabula is also ~20c extra to spend on other things.
Day 2 - 5 link tremor was 40c in delerium as it's sadly not that hidden
@@TheSecondSlice you got scammed, get a tremor and the prophecy and you can get it done for about 25c
@@pathofmatthI didn't buy it, i sold it for 40c (got for 7c day 1) I linked mine to 6 links so sold 5s, admittedly it was 2 off perfect but I sold a meh one for 35c aswell , made me v happy day 2
Edit: poe.ninja shows 38c-33c first 2 days so about right for mine even if I was lucky
Love it!thank you. But what pantheon ? Lunaris+shakari?
I pretty much always go brine king and tukohama but thats cuz i'm lazy
i would like to make this build my starter in harverst but im not used to PoB . how can i see the skill point to put in order ? like to lvl 0 until 20 , 21 to 40 , etc ? so far i only used arc totem hierophant kikarazu+soul mantle build . its verry good for clean map but not for boss , i will be able to play this build ?
thk you
i have another video about this 20c build which i go over all the lvling and tree and stuff :) check it out
to the people playing this build, do you have mana issues too? I can't play a single map without using my flask and in the video he barely touches his mana while he is fighting mr. Chicken
If you dont have it get the "Enduring" prefix on your mana flask, that makes it so it doesnt stop even if you are at full mana so basically you regen all the time whith your flask piano
can you post some levelling explanation-guide?
i.e. what gems to use/what passives take first and so on?
really nice build, whant to try it on the new league :)
Is there a specific way to farm for tremor rod in SSF or is there a different unique / rare (with certain stats) that would do just as good? Thanks!
Mines being able to be detonated again AND the 7th link is crazy hard to beat
I guess farm t16 tower for "the tower" cards and use your ancient orbs on staffs, but afaik there's no guaranteed way
I've dropped 2 so far in ssf, it's not t1 rarity
very very very common unique, but no real way to farm it sadly. like firudu said!
Hey Path of Matth im currently trying out your build, i think its really good for a starter but im having trouble with my strength, i need 191 strength to be able to use the kaom's heart. How did you fix that problem?
amulet implicit, 30 str node on the tree, you also get quite a bit of str on the tree, and you can also just craft str on your gear if necessary
really love your content and passion for the game man, ty for finding my next league starter
what is the link in boots?
I have a question. In your pob you chose alira, but would it be viable to choose eramir instead ?
Alira is a very good choice early in general (easier gearing) and usually the go to for crit builds (except very high char lvl where a jewel socket might be better). For Miner the mana regen is also great.
Both are fine, this build gets all benefits from Alira tho. Easier to cap resists on league start, some crit multi and some mana regen.
So started this build today. pretty smooth leveling so far using dual axiom's... Lvl 59 now, and just got tremor rod so was juggling around some gear and started using Malachai's Artifice to apply EE with armageddon brand.... the problem is my tooltip is showing some lightning damage on the brand from Herald of Thunder... doesn't this basically screw up my EE? or at least make it only half as effective? Please let me know.. thx.
Yeah. Herald of Thunder is going to add lightning damage to your armageddon brand, which will add resistance to your enemies.
I’d recommend something like Wrath or Zealotry instead if you need a damage aura.
Any thoughts on a Purifying Flame variant? Just in case ball lightning gets the nerf hammer.
ye that works too! pyroclast, icicle, etc are all good enough
u use kaoms heart only for the hp and armor?
ye, just for the HP tbh, its pretty massive, like 1200+ life in a single item that isnt all that expensive
hey man, thanks for the build,I want to use this build for the next league, but im new and im not sure about how to level it, i would appreciate it if you could elaborate on this part
will do tomorrow
@@pathofmatth Thanks a lot
I'd go with the trap boots, with ball lighting/arc socketed in them. This way you have a pseudo 5link for leveling, until you get all the right gear. But this is just me!!!!
Use stormblast mines and take all the mine nodes on the tree. Take some life and mana too. Use orb of storm for additional dps and you'll do the acts easily
Very nice. Thank you. This will be my next league start.
Did you end up running this in Harvest? BL and slower proj got hella nerfed, but I think for your purposes the end result is probably a buff and they mostly nerfed my archmage shotgunners?
yes I did and i still do, overall not much changed except the loss of either an annoint or a couple skill points on the tree, SUPER solid build
@@pathofmatth I might build one cos I'm finding the midgame of my ice crash build to be a little expensive. Maybe need to play something else to carry this into t16s
@@pathofmatth So my ice crash raider kinda stalled out a bit and I'm thinking of trying this build out. How's the bossing? I'm still newish to the game and haven't cleared all the uber bosses before. Would you suggest this if I've already got a build that's in red maps (struggling a little, but there)? It does look fun.
And will you update POB with leveling gems setup and what not? Would be neat for lot of people POG
check the community section on my channel, I just posted that :)
How does movement work without having LMB on move only? Been a bit since I last played poe dunno if they changed something
LMB will always move your character, so you can put whatever you want to instant cast on cooldown :)
@Path of Matth why you didn't go for Hearth of thunder or Breath of lightning? What build is more stupid-friendly - this one or toxic rain trickster(i mean which would survive better Sirus of-screen shit)? Thank you in advance
dont need it, its fairly minimal damage, the tree is also very low lvl, so you can get it if you really want to tbh.
I think mines and TR Trickster are both amazing, but they have very different playstyles, so it comes down to what you enjoy playing more
@@pathofmatth ok, thank you for answer. Also do you have suggestion what to upgrade to take this starter build to "uber cleaner" as like Witch spellslinger volatile dead?
@@poligrafpoligrafson6561 I did A8 Sirus on a 2L with this build. It's already an uber cleaner hahaha
@@pathofmatth ok, thank you very much :)Last question - why not pyroclast mine?
@@poligrafpoligrafson6561 since the nerf to pyro, BL is just superior in every way and way less laggy.
Awesome build , my go to top league started and end game push next season.ty for the awesome guide.also, has been any changes with the new league announcement and if there if could you kindly give any updates we should know about or changes.this will be my first time playing miner n I really regret no seeing this build earlier. Ty once again ;)
Any recommendations if you wanna push this build further after league start or would you reroll into sth else after you got some currency?
you would switch to Lowlife probably, look up "akane's ball lightning miner" it's pretty insaaaaane
Does this change at all with the brand updates?
why it's ball lightning and not just arc? and when i was playing this build i was all the time 1-shoted by hard phys hits. How you deal with it?
Dodge. Or call of the brotherhood if we talking about porcupines. Ball lightning deals much more damage compared to arc.
@@ВладПотапенко-б6э yeah, but i've seen only 1 really dodgy trapper - angry roleplayer build (th-cam.com/video/xAEfDkXPLTY/w-d-xo.html) and that's it. Other trappers have shity dodge compare to it
This maybe be stupid but can you run uber lab with this build?
It has decent Regen if you occasionally use mines, and the boss fight is a joke
It's definitely viable, but it's nowhere near as good as a lab farm build
Popularity: About 12% roughly (top build at start) of players used this for delerium including myself as tytykiller promoted it last league - very strong and cheap - the pre Nerf delirium made it a high death char as standing still but it made made me enough to swap chars
I spent 7c for day1 tremor (as huge demand) managed to six link one day 2 sold my 5 link for 40c day 2
Koams was 98c ish when I got it
Good starter and if it's not nerfed I can't not play again but it definitely suffers from it's popularity
only 12% ? felt like half league starters were miners. Maybe that was metamorph tho
Bro you seen Akane’s ball lightning mine build? It’s like giving Thanos all 5 stones.
Aren't there 6 infinity stones?
did he made BL for 3.10 ?
@@AdraelKnight yea he did its the same as 3.9 basically, ascendant needs more gear tho than sabo
what is the best way to detonate mines? i've always avoided mine builds to keep from having to spam the entire time.
put detonate on left click :)
@@pathofmatth then what are you using to move?
@@jackhammer2002 Left click. It will detonate mines when available (when mines are on the ground) and if not it will just move you like regular
So with the patch notes for 3.11 out, is this build still viable? Any update link for Path of Building? :)
Stronger cause they buff heavily Ball Lightining so no nerf full buffed for 3-11
Hey, i am new to poe, you said you gonna do a video on how to level this build ?
You can easily level with mines also. Arc mines are probably easiest, get Alira for some easy resists and crit. You'll blaze through the story
@@KingJerbear Thank you very much, how do i progress on the skill tree ?
@@Oxbow861 Google Path of Building. It's a program that allows you to test out builds and see actual numbers. But in the description of this video he has a "PoB" pastebin link. Once you open up Path of Building, click the "Import/Export Build" button in the top left. Then there will be a button that says "Import from pastebin." You can just copy and paste the link he provided in that box and it will show you his full build and tree. As you are progressing just make sure you alternate between the life/survivability nodes and the damage stuff. If you still need more help there are lots of other Miner leveling build guides on TH-cam. Hope that helps brother
@@Oxbow861 Here's a link to the download page for Path of Building. It's easiest to just use the Setup.exe but there's also a Zip file if you want to go that route. github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases
@@KingJerbear Thank you very much that helped a lot !!
Can you tell me how going upgrade till 5 link for gems and what more aside from res should look on weapons and gear?
and the gem set up for everything please? Sorry noob question cuz I don't play a long ago
@@Jyuxx theres a path of building link bro :)
@@pathofmatth lol didn't see the description . Ty any option available to use as league starter till get a tremor rod?
@@Jyuxx any wands will do tbh, i just use act 2 and craft (magic wand, rare ring and 1 alteration)
@@pathofmatthlast question , does work using hypothermia with elemental focus? isn't chill effect consider an ailment?
How about Arc mines, boyo?
wow. i watched every second of this! great video, subbed!
My initial thought "ah, ball lightning miner, that was a fun relaxed play style". Thx for reminding and as you say, a cheap starter!
My favorite ability in Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance back in the day was Ball Lightning so I've wanted to play that skill since I got deep into PoE (3.5) but never have found a good self cast build. I've never done mines but I don't think I've ever seen a league start capable pseudo 4L easily clear T16s so I may look in to this build. Thanks!
What would you recommend for early leveling to ball lightning setup?
just do OOS n Stormblast mine till ball lightning.
@@robertbrown2805 I tested with blastchain mine arc and it worked pretty well... will try your suggestion as well thanks.
@@W4Rnerv np, both work fine. I think storm blast OOS will be slightly faster to get to ball lightning, but just do whichever u prefer more
Before people start to QQ about Slower proj changes from new patch, we have to emphasize gameplay showed is on 4l whiteout slower proj gem. :D
Hey man I appreciate your content. By looking into your videos I've made the most amount of currency playing poe this league as opposed to my previous.(maybe like 15ex, which isn't too much but I'm not too hardcore of a player and the highest level I've reached is 89 if I recall correctly). And I haven't even sat down to watch all of your videos. I'm sure there's much more to learn. btw this was my first ever league flipping and your videos have helped a lot. Also one last thing, I've never played a trapper/miner before and was wondering if reflect would be an issue for this kind of build, might try it next league.
immune to reflect :)
Traps/mines/totems are immune to reflect because technically you aren't the one doing the damage.
@@bbydykdyl7779 Yeah thought it might be like that. Makes sense.
Hey Matth ,i've actually went ahead and leveled up a shadow,started doing your build,i'm currently level 89 ,so yea ,i can confirm that this build can handle any content the game has to offer,i only spent like 2ex on it ? even with the 6l tremor since i got it for an ex .but my question is ,how can we take this build further? where can we improve on damage mainly since survivability is enough.
go lowlife tbh, thats the real endgame
@@pathofmatth well, i destroyed all the endgame content with your build.This will surely be my league starter for Harvest league,thanks for the cool build mate
cant wait to use this as my league starter :)
could u make some leveling trees pls it would be super helpful
Pob link in description man
@@itz_x_salvation395 There are no leveling trees on the POB.
you don't have infernal legion in pastebin, intentional?
I do, theres 2 different aura setups depending on your budget, check the 2nd video about this 20c build 😁
@@pathofmatth oh ok thanks, im bad at pob
how much would cost ur helmet enchantemnt on the 1st days of league btw?
the helmet enchant doesn't do anything, but you can get a random one on any base for a couple chaos
pleseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee some can tell me what gems he has in his boots??????????????
flame dash, arcane surge, second wind
got a new sub mate ! nice vid, keep up the good work :D
What game is this? Looks awesome
path of exile :)
What mine are you laying down? Btw, my non ball lightning build must sucks! I did the same map, and got killed by the boss. Died after 6 tries!
ball lightning, of course!
Why does the PoB have Infernal Legion disabled?
enable the burning crit multi from ascendancy and overall just increase in dmg since you cant run anything else to reserve mana anyways
@@pathofmatth I just mean in your PoB that's linked to this video has different gear (slightly) and different skills linked together hence why I am confused as to why you have it disabled in the PoB but in the video it's enabled.
@@paselitoru the PoB has both the single aura setup (early game) and the "end game" setup with wrath once you gain access to a lvl 3 enlighten. Then you drop infernal legion and can acquire fire dmg somewhere on the build. I guess I'll makea build / tree video with the options available haha
@@pathofmatth Makes sense thanks for clarification.
With Detonate mines bound to your left click does this mean no other key must be assigned to it?
what you mean? that key will always move your character anyways :P
@@pathofmatth I did not know this and I've been playing mines for like, forever. LOL.
I'm doing a ssf run using this spec and it seems to be very good so far.Where are you getting stun immunity or avoidance from?
Couple leagues ago I played GC miner and I used Kaoms roots and it should be easy to farm up div cards for it. Roots also give you massive boost in HP while keeping links in chest so you can even opt for shield set up. If you are interested in ES based miner check out bearleague's guide on forum there is plenty of information there.
What are you scalling on? Évasion?
I was looking at playing this in new league and just read the patch notes, they BUFFED Ball Lightning.
Ball Lightning
Now deals 3 to 57 Lightning Damage at gem level 1 (from 3 to 48), to 28 to 533 Lightning Damage at gem level 20 (from 22 to 426).
Now has an added Damage effectiveness of 50% (from 40%).
Now costs 12 mana at gem level 1 (from 13), up to 23 mana at gem level 20 (from 25).
😂🤣
slow projs nerf so its a net nerf.
@@matthewp1083 But they only nerfed the proj speed
@@t4d15 that's the reason why its single target was so good.
the slower proj should be a bigger nurf to it though realistically
They nerfed Slow projs and they nerfed crit so rip
How do you start a league with 20 chaos?
selling random life & res gear; uniques, can flip div cards, farming league mechanic, etc, just playing the game rlly
Is BL mines inherently better than any other spell? I like glacial cascade but seems like most top miners use BL. Why?
the way the skill functions with procs per time per ball just amounts to a SHIT TON of dmg
@@pathofmatth Thanks for the reply!
with the chest piece that's just been shown, can this be even more viable?
this was my league starter as well. I am not a fan of tremor rod so I skipped it and started straight as wand/scepter. while a good league starter, the ceiling is pretty low and I would not use it to farm for more than 2 weeks into the league.i farmed about 200 ex on my miner then swapped to harold early into league. not sure if I will repeat doing miner. I think cyclone slayer might be a better league starter depending on the farming strategy.
BL is better for rushing high maps quickest, but i agree cyclone slayer good too, Can get like 2m dps on 30c with it
Is there reason for GGG to nerf Baal of Lightning or miners? were they too op?
James Sawyer ball lightning got buffed
Man, I just don't like the spamming of detonate with mines....
watch closely to his keybinds...u do not need to spam,just allocate detonate to your left click,and you just detonate while moving...
Which is very bad decision due to Blastchain support. To maximize your damage you have to detonate only One time. In this case every mine in sequence will deal 5% more damage with every blast. Second Detonation will start a second chain of blasts with separate "5% more damage for each mine in sequence" bonus. All you need is stack up a 20-25 mines then detonate it one time and then keep throwing addition mines while first ones are detonating. All this bullshit shows you a nice damage bonus, 35+ mine in sequence will have a 170%+ more damage and thats what important. If you'll be fast enough you'll see a literally triple damage of your mines. Ofc it depends of your throwing speed, so pay some attention to this stat.
In this video detonation occurs a several times in second. There is absolutely NO bonus from Blastchain support. What actually means this build a much more powerful.
@@duelist43 ye he only uses bladchain for turning it into a mine
Withering step even after the nerf is a good choice since you have an open slot
You didn't remove the BL hem.
why the kaoms heart tho?
over 1000 hp from it 😁
How would u min max this build?
u have a video for that i fucking love u WTF
Miner is always the easiest league starter since you don't need more than a wand /staff with a bit of spell dmg or tremor rod.
The only other that can do this withput currency and equipment is essence drain, but has the problem that for endgame is pretty expensive to min max, but mines always cost nothing.
Is this viable after notes?
no way to know before patch notes, obviously ;)
@@pathofmatth ohh thought they were released
K , gl!
Well, I've been playing BL since metamorphe. All I can say that all you need for this build is a Tremor Rod. Now I'm playing SSF Delirium and I'm using a craft wand (spell + critical by using essences) and a shield. Using this combination will increase your survivebility. Btw, Tremor Rod drop is pretty good. I got two during my SSF leveling.
You can also use Arc. Mapping with Arc and bossing with BL. Please dont nerf BL GGG 😭😭😭😭
do you just swap it in ur 6l? no other changes than that?
the arc gem i meant.
@@porkypie1231 your Tremor rod should look like this:
1R, 2G, 3B.
Arc main gems:
Controlled Destruction
Trap Damage
Swift Assembly.
BL main gems:
Slower Projectiles or Greater Projec.
Swift Assembly.
The reason for that is bc u can use Swift Assembly and Minefield, throwing 21 mines as fast as you can on the ground when you're bossing.
pastebin.com/kJke9X0B
I just started watching you, do you have any tips on farming early currency in the league?
I have an entire series about that on my channel bro :)
You think they will RIP it like Archmage (see bex Twitter with Ziz)?
No, Archmage wasn't intended to work the way it did with SB and brand recall. It was an oversight that will be fixed. This build wasn't popular or over abused this league so I am sure that it isn't even on the Dev's radar.
Great build, bro, tested it out rerolling a mid 70's shadow I had here and it work great with little to no currency. What would you do to improve damage of this build?
what do you mean "to improve damage"? he literally walked through a t16 guardian map on a 3link
If you didn’t understand a simple sentence like that, I can’t really say anything else other than “go back to school”. Ciao.
If you can't manage to play the game with that much damage then the only thing i can say is git gud.
I’m sorry, I don’t give a shit to your opinion. 😄 have a nice day.
As someone that just started in metamorh could you make a vid on a leveling process? What gems to take when and what to swap? I'd appreciate it!
If you want to level with a miner, you should go with stormblast mines and orb of storm. You take SB mine, link it with trap and mine damage, swift assembly, and something else that does damage, take every mine node on the tree, take the mana and life on kill nodes near shadow tree start and you should level your shadow easily. For other links you can do OOS + added lightning and CoH+curse or pcoc or faster casting. Use smoke mine for movement, and stack a lot of mines on bosses while they talk before fighting.
Also take lightning spire trap for bosses, it helps
Tried akanes ball lightning miner and it was rly nice. u can facetank EVERYTHING with 3k life. A little bit of flask cluster abuse but yeah...nearly every build does it by now. Also dmg isnt rly that high bcause u invest a lot in survivability but ball lightning still does his work. It just gets a bit more expensive if u want some more dmg. I love miners in general but always had the problem that u cant lay and instant detonate with most spells. But it works perfect with ball lightning AND the balls also target enemies theirself. Have also an icicle sabo and hes extremly nice for bossing but gets nuked against huge crowds of enemies which is pretty normal in delirium so i did quit it. Also good idea with detonate on left mouse button ;) i normally run phase run there.
Can I ask you how many hours a day you play this game? Just curious
I'm online basically at all times, I'm only basically ever "playing" when I'm streaming, otherwise I'm afk or talking with people, as for how much time I spend making currency, about 1/3rd of my time streaming is spent actively trying to make currency, since the majority of the time I'm just answering questions and whatnot
why not minefield?? i just find it alot moere worth
Are you sure that Inspiration is working with mines? I think it's a visual bug, cause description clearly says it is not working with mines.
the mine itself doesnt gain charges, but the mines arent the ones using mana, YOU are, so you gain the charges which affects your global spell dmg / crit chance which affects your mines in turn
awesome video thank you !
How are you detonating your mines instantly like that? If I could do that I'd play mines a lot more.
Skitterbots most likely
He is spamming the Detonate button, as you can clearly see when he's playing!!!! Hotkey D!!!
@@mr.nobody4994 He's got his detonate mines on left click, so just walking around normally will cause them to detonate when available
@@KingJerbear dang. I've never thought about this!!!
they just anounced that slower proj nerf, we need to check how much they will hit, cause i belive it`s a huge dps boost for the build, right ?
for a frame of reference, he didn't even have slower proj socketed when he ran his 3-link
@@diddykangable yep, thats true.
and the slower proj nerf ain't thaaaaat bad.
All you need is a little bit more aoe in the tree and you’ll still be hitting the max amount of damage ticks on most enemies. And ball lightning gem got buffed anyways so it’s still an amazing starter
am I blind or I see 6 mirror in stash ?
No you are right. But in this league it was so easy to get currency.. specially for gmaers who farm like 8-10 hours each day.^^ I left the League 3 weeks ago with 10 Mirrors and 2k Exalts.. (Without selling all the items out of my stash.) So I mean.. when you know, how to get or make currency, it´s so easy.. flipping currency is a good way. (As example Essences.) Buy many Essences and sell them in bulk. Trades are shit. when you have 40 good essences of one type, you can sell one for 14c instead of 3-5c. :) Because people are lazy.