Data Logging | Building a Monster Truck Engine Pt 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- As Gale and the Banks engineering team begin development of a super-turbo diesel engine for monster trucks, the first step is examining existing supercharged methanol engines under extreme racing conditions. Where do you start on the project like this? Data logging.
Gale explains how we'll be data logging Monster Mutt Dalmation's San Jose, CA race. At the heart of the data logging system is a Banks iDash 1.8 Data Monster (currently known as the iDash 1.8 + data logging). It's the most intelligent 2-1/16" gauge available. For more info on the iDash and its suite of sensor modules, head to bankspower.com/idash.
iDash 1.8 Super Gauge with Data Logging
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Monster Mutt Dalmatian footage courtesy Feld Entertainment
Just because how high this gentleman’s belt is, I trust him.
I concur.
I'm happy for you that you achieved your dreams being able to have a shop and dyno and be building engines. It's so cool to see your history of evrything you achieved
Yes we do enjoy these videos. If your any kid of gear head and have any curiosity what so ever who wouldn’t love these. Listening to Gale speak about all these things and from 50 years + of knowledge fantastic.
Banks and Papadakis are the two most humble, straightforward and easiest to watch and learn from.
On the other end sometimes you need some video crack like the Hooligan team.
Mr. Gale, thank you for these videos for the ideas and inspirations you spread, and expressing and pursuing your infinite curiosities. You're an inspiration to anyone and everyone in the garage and at the the track.
Thought for sure he would start the video by sipping on a monster energy drink.
This is the stuff I love and understand. I am a retired mechanic. I am also 73 years old. Old age has placed me in observer status, only. I am not complaining, so much, I thought I had more to offer, but I timed out.I am having a good life.. My car is a 1940 Ford with an M90 Eaton supercharger and a TEC3r on a Ford Flathead V8. I like Cummins.
Bob Smith I'd love to see that, your 1940 Ford sounds fun.
Bob Smith I'd love to see that, your 1940 Ford sounds fun. Shame you've got no video of it here on TH-cam.
This technology was already available, even for street applications, from numerous other manufacturers, with a stand alone full instrument gauge, with turn signal, fuel level, rpm, speedometer, the list goes on.
If you're referring to the iDash 1.8, the gauge has never been this small, offered so much and cost so little.
This kind of stuff fascinates me! I love watching them run and I love seeing this sort of behind the scenes stuff!
Gale, thanks so much for making these videos in the name of science and documentation! Data logging is such an integral part of improving something, -you need to know what is going on before you can proceed to making changes. Myself being an older generation gear head, all of the new instrumentation makes it so easy to acquire information, it almost feels like you are cheating. The future is here! Thanks you Mr. Banks for all of your exceptional contributions to the speed and racing community!
Gale I'll help you on the throttle position part. If I remember right as a kid the percentages on gravediggers throttle position were either 0% or 100%!!
SPNFENDER my dad used to tell me “ son, you do know that car has more than just 2 throttle positions on it” lmao
@@Duane002 Lol. Yea we all had our cars in highschool, where the throttle was on a toggle on/off switch ha!
A diesel in one of these makes a lot of sense. They're designed to run at high Duty cycle and bearing loads for long periods of time. 1200hp is an attainable power level. Even if it's down 100hp, the initial hit is so hard, a normal low RPM torque converter will give you your money's worth without being so damn touchy. Even if you do need the boost, just brake torque it. You won't have to pay for rebuilds as often. Banks is the only guy doing diesels with separated banks so they still sound like V8's.
I'm interested to see if Gale will run a supercharged Diesel with enough pressure to keep Propane in the liquid state. As of late, I've come to love the hell out of propane, as Hank-Hill as that sounds, it's true. The latent heat of vaporization. The durability of the tanks. It kicks ass.
diesels are fucking slugs
@@NAPAuniversalJoints have you not seen the pikes peak superturbo truck Banks built?
Deisel Brother's show did this without a super changer, so this will probably solve it. If not guess it will need to build with aliminum rods for some more snap.
Let’s not forget you can build a bbc cheap
Extreme diesel monster truck. TH-cam and Google are your friends
Ladies and Gentlemans, Mr Gale Banks is the Modern Henry Ford, if you know what i mean..
Hector Ortega anti-Semitic?
@@austindoud273, thanks for your reply,
And, no, im not against nobody really.
@@Subaruej20 what did Henry ford pioneer?
@@Subaruej20 and he was no genius his engines where based off of very basic designs even for those times and he also didnt design everything himself. Nor was the assembly line his idea other companies had used it for vehicles before him just not for mass production
@@Subaruej20 and gale banks isnt pioneering or a genius how?
That would be so fun to hang out for 5 minutes
it seems like you guys should develop a stand alone ecu given how many proprietary sensors you have developed. the hardest part about running most of the ones ive looked into is getting the stock sensors to play nice with it.
Shit, those wheels in the beginning are funny😂😂
00:04 awwwwww. The puppy has training wheels
Imagine how fast it would be just on the small tires
I like how they use “smole” wheels for transport lol
THATS A VERY BIG NEEDLE VALVE over your shoulder at the begining haha
A puppy? Wake me when the diff cover vids start again.
Lol, not a fan of awesome engineering but have that user name. Interesting.
@@AdamAus85 Its the shell I cant get past. It would be like putting those eyelashes on a Morgan. ✌
Wtf this isn’t even a diesel truck!!!
i'd say diesels have "lethargic" throttle response;)
If I was gale I would’ve shot the guy who hung up on chandler lol
Will it work on a 69 Firebird👀
how do they not kill those engines with going upside down and all that... wont is starve for oil
That's the advantage of the dry sump system, engine angle and G-Forces don't matter as much when running a dry sump.
I enjoy listening to Mr banks, and he’s an amazing engineer, so why are 99% of his products air intakes and exhaust? I would love to see him offer some aftermarket vgt turbos, advanced custom tuning, etc. I would love to have a smoke free quick spooling setup like he is always talking about, but he offers no real solutions.
Love the videos. Love your presentation. Keep it up please.
Gale, Always interesting to watch!
hey...i subbed you years ago, lol...Gale is a living legend
This is one of the best no bs just solid nuggets of info channels around!
i couldnt find monster truck events any more boring but the machines themselves are amazing creations
Ok, I'm new to this channel. The diff cover video caught my attention. About 2 minutes in I subbed. Not only does this man know his stuff, he can explain it! I understand him! His enthusiasum is infectious. I'm old but not dead, just a little disabled, and he's giving me ideas! I love diesels because they're stout and make real torque. All my diesels have been natural or turbo. Supercharged has got to increase throttle responce because it does on a gas motor. Some of these so called superchargers like Vortec and Pro Charger look like belt driven turbos to me and they have lag, too. The Roots type of charger makes boost off idle and that's old school! I'm sure the answer lies in supercharging or a combination of supercharger and turbo like today's 4 stroke outboards. I can't wait to see the out come of the diff cover issue. Maybe a system like NASCAR uses is the best solution. We'll see soon because Gale Banks is on the case.
screw blower. different than a roosts blower. you know those make A LOT of power
gale banks been the man for diesels for YEARS!!
I love that Banks is personally getting into this social media campaign. I almost want to switch to a diesel just to do business with Gale Banks!
Great video! I am a high school engineering and applied technology teacher and I thank you for your passing along your knowledge and wisdom in a exciting, relevant and professional manner. I use your videos to help inspire the next generation of gearheads, engineer's, and computer science students. The relevance and excitement in your videos make them ideal learning tools! Thanks!!!
I really like this gentleman
it would only be right if Bob Chandlers Bigfoot was being data logged not monster mutt smh.But man I could only imagine how much faster bigfoot 1 would of been with a turbo back in the 80s.
Man I love the way these gauges look. Small and clean with a crisp display. And this has got to be one of the best channels I've ever subbed to. Gale Banks is a really cool guy for sure. Definitely will be buying some Banks products for my truck in the future.
Damn, this would be good on a racing lawn mower since there isn't a lot of space on them.
Love this guy, this man single handedly taught me about how diesel engines work and forced induction, Gal you are awesome
Great video...awesome to see your enthusiasism so strong after so many years in the business. Keep these video coming, and thanks for sharing.
Mr. Banks you are really building a crowd, awesome job!
I could listen to this guy describe how he buttered his toast for an hour- so engaging. Bank should have been pushing videos like his differential cover series A LONG time ago. And make some products for GM 6.0L gas engines!!
4:02 Wait so the Type of Engine In a 12,000 pound Monster jam Truck in Monster Jam Runs a 540ci Merlin Big Block Engine With the K&N Blower Motor attached on top of the Engine that is used on Dragon Grave Digger EL Toro Loco Max D Wild Side Whiplash Blue Thunder Scooby Doo Great Clips Mohawk Warrior Megalodon Monster Mutt Dalmatian Monster Mutt Original and other Monster Jam Trucks!
Greetings from Germany! Simply amazing! I love the U.S. for this. In Europe, this would have been totally impossible. Amazing!
Love your passion for diesel , I want your diesel monster truck too kill the the spark ignition . My thoughts may be wrong but here they are , clearly I don't have a dyno cell or do i have any proof to back me up . Its only information I've gathered through out my life , and my passion for solving problems , Disclaimer thoughtful enthusiast theory only.
- Torque transfer time , idle to full coupling torque lock up sec. ____________
- engine rpm vs wheel speed map
- adjust the gearing in drop box to match the lower diesel rpm band width.
-run a full lock converter 1800 to 2000
- lower rpm torque values mapped against wheel speed
- 540 usable torque range ( dead stop wacking it , wheel starts to move record rpm ________ . Full lock up red line rpm __________. I'd guess 4500 to 7200
- Original 540 max wheel speed
- I'm guessing the 540 produces a average 1100 ft lbs of torque in a 3000 rpm window
- matching the torque window at a lower rpm , and gear up to match wheel speed ,
- The missing hp is still a concern for reaction time and can be made up with coupling the torque faster
- Also setting up the l5p to produce a average of 1400 ft lbs torque in its usable 3000 Rpm window to compensate for the loss of hp
- the faster you can couple a diesel and take advantage of the long slower burning power stroke the more torque it will produce.
- keeping the rpm lower will net the most gain .
- I'd concern my team's focus on torque numbers and throw out the hp number with the boost gauge.,q
Works on big block marine engines. We don't have an engine for you. WUT?!
Gale, don't know if you've seen Bro Dozer. It is a diesel powered monster truck. See th-cam.com/video/rEn8yM32XJ0/w-d-xo.html
If you watch the run you can see it suffers from major turbo lag compared to a supercharged methanol engine so you are 100% on the right track looking into measuring the response on those and trying to duplicate it (or get close) with a supercharged diesel. It does show that a turbo-diesel can make the power needed. Can you get both the power and throttle response with just a supercharger or will it need to be a more complex supercharged turbo system I wonder...
if youre looking for another brain ive been playing with trucks, computers, metal fab, carpentry, plumbing, small DC electronics since i was about 9 years old. ive always felt id be good at RnD
Y'all should reach out to cleatus McFarland. He's got a Cummins powered Galaxy I think you could help him with. Big drag racing and building channel
I'm gearhead studying mechanical engineering and I love seeing science and engineering being applied in the aftermarket.
I would love to sit and talk to Mr. Banks one day and just listen to stories and pick his brain on performance.
I wish I could work with you just to learn
Wow i never knew that info.. professionals never like to say we cant do something and shut down. If capital and commitment, we can do it or be apart of it being done.
I would have loved to see where banks would have taken the trucks engine builds from back in those days. Glad to see it now, the excitement you show when finding and getting the numbers on this tech is awesome.
This guy come off more friendly than Mr. Rogers... Imma binge watch this.
Man the diesel market place owes this guy so much thank u Gale Banks u opened diesel world to perfomance world and man is it awesome long live diesel power
Interesting how they ship these with what looks like sub compact utility tractor tires so they can fit in an enclosed trailer.
I am 100% convinced not a single person on this planet knows more about forced induction or Diesel engines than Gale Banks. Well done sir. You are an inspiration to many. Keep up the great work.
it just blows me away at how in tune Gail is with things! I wish I had the intellect to work for him
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Why are the videos in the playlist backwards and jumbled up?
Wait a minute.Dont the BroDozer allready have a diesel engine in it?
Grabbed a diesel magazine today and it had Brodozer in it I believe it's an LB7 in it built to 1,100hp.
I think your a little late to the party Gale....
So glad to see more content from Banks Power.
Sharpening and refining the cutting edge of motor sports performance!!
Wow that engineer hung up the phone on Bigfoot? Just there to punch the clock.
can you make a kit for datalogging my 2020 ford explorer ST before i start doing mods?
All you need is the iDash DataMonster for your data logging needs. It's plug-an-play with your 2020 Explorer! www.bankspower.com/i-2760
@@bankspower will i need to add more sensors to see the difference in MAD thru the system. want to make videos before and after upgrading intake, intercooler, exhaust, etc
Gale, if you were any cooler you'd start a new ice age!!!
$370 and it includes a $$$$ vbox? There’s plenty of data recorders out there that can do 10hz logging. I wonder if they’ll plug everything into that $$$$ vbox and then send the data to their gauge via CAN.
The new iDash 1.8 DataMonster records at 20hz. Also, the VBOX was only used in this application. It is not something we typically use or need, nor do we sell them.
They are in Adelaide Tonight South Australia
Bobby Magoo Chandler...havnt heard that name in decades
I love the "little" tires for transporting the truck.
Man I really appreciate your work. I’m building a budget 8.1 for a 62 c10 muscle truck love to be able to get 9 seconds. I been picking your brain watching your videos. Thanks
BTW what I would give to have your place in my back yard.
God damn tremendous respect to Mr. Banks and anyone who loves mechanics and engineering in the ICE area as much as him. I fear not too many kids in the coming generations will ever feel the love as much as us.
you're the Walter White of vehicle engineering. I imagine if you just talk in the way you understand it. that most people wouldn't comprehend what you are saying.
This man is amazing...always love the videos... it's nice to know how things work instead of just watching it work...I know next to nothing compared to Gale but I'm thinking supercharged diesel will be the only way its gonna work in monster truck because of the instant boot needed to hit jumps or do wheelies throttle response is everything in monster truck...
Drops the Data Monster in October of all months... on a monster truck, named Monster Mutt, going to Monster Jam, coincidence? I think not!!
Thanks MR. POWER for your great work. Thanks again for the great video
Stop fiddling with a monster truck and finish the differential cover series. 😂
I have a gas 8.1L Chevy now and in the next few years I’m goin to be moving to a Cummins platform because my towing needs will be greater can I buy one idash and switch it between two totally different platforms
This country needs more extremely intelligent men with common sense like you Gale. Thanks for your videos.
Man, he really spared no expense on the harbor freight hearing protection
asus6983 they work better than nothing
Can this run shock travel sensors ?
Always enjoy Gale Banks videos a living legend that has done more for the hot rod industry they we will ever know. Thanks for sharing GW
I need a water proof 4 channel egt
These are probably the most interesting videos on TH-cam. God bless you Gale and please keep up the good work on these awesome videos
WHAT an awesome product! 100 channels? In that small-ish set-up? Crazy....
So you blew off Bob Chandler and then went to commercial and never finished the story.
Dear Gale, add Phantaslube (www.phantaslube.com) to the engine and watch it rip!
Never mentioned that you have to be a millionaire. Now I’m heart broken. 😂😂
Awesomeee. Saw Monster Jam in Brisbane (Australia). Fantastic show.
By far my favorite TH-cam channel, i could watch this stuff all day long
That's a MAD puppy!
Mr Banks, man I would like to just sit and talk to you for an hour or two!
He looks nervous
Great, now It confirm why I love Bank Power product.
Diesel brothers made the brodozer and now everyone gotta have a diesel monster truck
The engine that we're designing is for the BroDozer.
@@bankspower oh thats awesome I wasn't trying to talk smack. Shows how much I know
Such a cool project
Luv it sir! It's good to see you on TH-cam! Smart man.
just sayin
Gale is the man, i hope he lives a long time and keeps putting out these great videos
Lol, Yes Sir:
Enjoyed very much. ! Awesome. !
Thank you Banks Power. I hope give us some input on how things ture on.
Great video, definitely in interested in getting a iDash !!
Great video I enjoy your commentary over the years I have given up on mechanicing and being technical Savvy like you cuz everybody told me that I didn't know what the hell I was talking about you've inspired me to do some things and I'm not a rich man I'm a mechanic and it doesn't pay very well no matter how hard you work so I gave it up two years ago and I haven't looked back since I enjoy your content I truly believe in what you do but just like that engineer in your story I've been told many years that is not possible so I have just give up don't know if you read your comments but thank you for your service as a master
Maybe he's looking for someone like-minded who wrenches.