PLEASE NOTE: This video was shot before we started offering the Vacuum Chambers for sealing jars on our store. We are currently out of stock but should have more up some time today (10/8/20) and no later than tomorrow morning. If you do not see them in stock, just keep checking back, Patrick has been working constantly to hunt down more parts and to get more made so please be patients since it is just him making them. Thank you! etsy.com/shop/raincountryhomestead
With food saver, putting the second one on top upside, down seals and keeps the second one from attaching to the first one, and keeps the gasket on! A win win for those using food saver
Get an old pressure cooker stick the hose on the weight stem put tape over safty vents. Fill it with jars. Pump and seal them all at the same time be blessed
I drilled a small hole into a lid and glue tacked it into the top the the sealer cap. This not only pushes the lid to be sealed down like an extra lid would but also relieves the vacuum between the lids. This eliminates the double lid problem as demonstrated in the video.
THANK YOU for this video! I thought I was going crazy...one worked and one didn't. It's good to know I'm not alone. I haven't tried your tips yet, but am hopeful they'll solve my problem.
Morning everyone! I have a vacuum sealer, and I was having problems with it not sealing, also. After watching lots of help videos that didn’t help, I finally bowed my head and asked the Lord what I haven’t tried! He told me that when I put the vacuum hose into the sealer appliance and put the lid down to seal, hit seal, then hold in the vacuum hose tightly to the appliance! Since then, I have had a seal every time! You can hear the difference. I guess the “tube” on the hose may not be long enough to reach inside? Thought I would pass along my success!
Omg I finally got my regular mouth jar sealer I put myself on Amazon when it comes in to ship and it finally came so I have 1 large and 1 regular mouth sealer and I got my brake bleeder...I also ordered oxygen absorbers...I'm so happy..Love your videos they are so helpful!!❤❤
I just got my tops from EBay! Came here because I started on regular jars and became very frustrated after one seal in the tries.,. I'll do the one extra lid placed upwards. Also I've been saving papers to wrap my jars in to pack away so that they don't get broken. They aren't going up on some shelves
Hello Heidi , you can just use an old lid drill a small hole in it and it will seal and you never have two lids stick together i just tried it on mine works perfectly .
THANK YOU!!!!!!! The double lid method worked for me because it would seal but the blue ring kept pulling the lid back off. Now it's working fine. 😃 Blessings and greetings from Chicagoland.
Great video... thank you! I noticed in the video you pried off the lids with a can opener. There's a better way to get the lids off the jar that doesn't ruin the lids. Use a spoon with the convex side facing up. Then run the spoon along the rim of the jar until it reaches the lid. Then just lift the spoon up to pry off the lid. It doesn't ruin the lid at all. I've had some lids for over 10 years and they still look practically new.
I am SO excited. I got a FoodSaver and the jar accessories... played with it and sealed dried beans tonight. Getting my brake bleeder soon and one of Mr.Rain's cannister is next on my list. My list of things that I'm going to use it for is expanding..lol thanks for the info Heidi!!
Oven canning isn't recommended by the jar manufacturers because they aren't designed for dry heat and can cause breakage...just putting that out there ....
Thank you for all the info. My problem was that I didn't know to leave the ring off. Use the attachment with the lid on the jar. After sealed THEN put the ring on the jar. Lord what a mess I've made but so glad I didn't give up. I do plan to get the pump in this video though. Ty ty THANK YOU
Thank you so much for this great video!!!! I am absolutely going to get a hand pump!!! After too many frustrating dry canning failures with those food savers, I am so over these gadgets. I just oven sealed 25 jars of Oats, after most of the lids did not seal properly with a brand new food saver. By the way, Rolled Oats seal in a 200 degree oven in 30 minutes!!! Easy peasy!
Heidi, I wanted to share that I have found that removing the regular mouth vacuum top with a gentle twist, comes off easily without pulling the gasket off, hope that helps
Thanks for the good information. I couldn't get my regulator seal with my new vacuum sealer and thinking the sealer was not strong enough. But I will try your method. Enjoy your video as always!
Heidi, I have had issues both sealer tops. I am waiting to get the one Patrick is making. Thank you Heidi for covering all of the problems with the jar sealer! just love how to try to keep helping us.
I had an issue getting a consistent vacuum seal with the wide mouth sealer top due to inconsistent jar shapes. I tried all the tips but finally resolved the issue with an easy and inexpensive fix. I put 1 to 2 appropriately sized rubber bands around the rubber seal lip and now no issues and it seals much faster.
Apply the rubber bands to the outside diameter area around the soft seal and not directly on the jar mouth. You can adjust the tightness of the seal by how many and the strength of the rubber bands applied. Regards
I don't quite understand either. Do you mean you put the elastic around the edge of lid? If so, how do you place it on the jar? Does the elastic get sandwiched in between the lid and jar?
I had many small jars that wouldn’t seal. After watching this video I found that the two lids stuck together so I drilled a small hole in the top lid, about a 1/4 inch, and have had very few miss seals since. When I do have a miss seal now I find that the lid is slightly bent. Enjoy your videos.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just recently I received my jar sealer attachment. Thanks to you teaching me about which way to put in the gasket...worked immediately. Very grateful. I also have received the sealing chamber from you for other jars with brake bleeder. Works great!
Thank you for your video, it helped a lot. I thought it was me or my lids were ALL bad. For future reference, if you use a dented one for the top it doesn't seal to the other one and no lid waste.
I had a LOT of problems with sealing jars…large mouth and small mouth…NOTHING WORKED. THEN I found…especially when sealing the small mouth jars, that if i press down on the hose that goes into the white jar sealer, AND on the white jar sealer, I no longer have problems sealing my jars. Thank God!!! 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸
THANK YOU THANKYOU!!! I ORDERED A SECOND FOOD SAVER SEALER THINKING THE FIRST ONE WAS JUNK FOR REGULAR SIZED LIDS. IT DID THE SAME CRAP! CAN'T AFFORD A BRAKE BLEEDER RIGHT NOW BUT WILL KEEP IT ON MY WISH LIST. YOU ROCK!!!
Heidi on a lot of the older jars the rim is the problem. The rim is not at a standard placement. This is why you will need two lids. The two lids raises the lid attachment off the rim making the jar seal. I have found on older jars the rim is a shorter distance from the top of the jar.
Good info on the brake bleeder, it may not pull the powder up under the sealing ring. will try that. We have had good luck using the food saver canisters and pickle jars, pasta sauce jars, olive jars from the grocery store. One commenter said they were sealing multiple jars with a pressure cooker, we will try that next. Thanks for the info/ideas!!!
Thank you for this video it has been so helpful. I thought I just got a bad regular mouth vacuum sealer and was very disappointed. After watching your videos I bought a break bleeder and I am vacuum sealing all kinds of good stuff. Much appreciation🙏
Heidi, off topic, but wanted to let you know that thanks to your wine making inspiration, I started a gallon and half gallon of mint wine the beginning of September. I removed the air locks last night and both were a success. I used apple mint, chocolate mint and a little lemon balm. They will be perfect for making some elixirs and alone have the benefits of the mint as well I would imagine. I had lots of mint, and wondered if mint wine was possible to use, so googled and found that it was indeed. I used my own berry ferment starter which I also learned from you for one, and the half gallon, I tried bread yeast. I made mint tea and then added the sugar and water to it after straining. The half gallon with the yeast is stronger, I am not a fan of wine and don’t drink, but had hubby taste it, he said it tasted a little like whisky, the other jar tasted better a little sweeter tasting maybe. Regardless, even though we don’t drink, I was super excited they worked and I now have homemade bases for elixirs. Thank you so much for sharing, for inspiring, for teaching. You are appreciated more than you may ever know. ❤️
Just thought I'd let you know that I couldn't get any of my regular jar lids to seal and was about to break down yet and buy another piece of equipment, but the double stacking of lids to seal the jar worked and I haven't had any double seals yet only the one that is suppose to. Thanks for sharing the info. I still might get the brake pump though just in case the SHTF
Many suggested turning the top lid upside down to prevent double sealing. Mine likely did that because I used the brake bleeder which seems to draw a better vacuum than the standard foodsaver machines, which is why I never needed to use a double lid with it
Heidi - Thanks for the tips! I was not able to get my Jar Sealers during the fall. Right after the first of the year, they became available on FoodSaver's website. I ordered and got them! I had no problems with the wide mouth jars, but the regular ones were a challenge. First mistake - put the gasket in upside down. (Thanks for that instruction!) After that, I was 6 for 7 and got the 7th on the second try. Love your videos!
The two lid trick does work and it’s not difficulty to separate the two lids should they seal together. To save time and effort I simply start with two lids.I’ve totally given up on Food Saver products after receiving poor customer service from them. It’s funny that you mentioned the canisters and their use. I didn’t know what they were for either.
Heads up people. I just received my vacuum sealer chamber yesterday. It is such a simple tool to use. Patrick is building a tool that equals ones from the past. I would recommend buying this instead of the food saver lids. I am noticing a shortage of jars for canning. With this handy tool one can reuse store bought food jars. If canning jars become a hard to source item, this will free up some of your canning jars from storing dehydrated foods. If you compare the price of a set of food saver lids to the vacuum sealing chamber, right now they are comparable due to the rising cost of the lids. Factoring in the ability to utilize various size jars up to a quart, in my opinion the vacuum sealing chamber is the most cost effective way to go. As more people run out of canning jars, the alternative use of mylar bags with O2 absorbers will see a shortage also. Plus the cost of purchasing them will rise. God bless.
I also found that sometimes the height between the jar threads and the jar shoulder is too short for the sealer top, so by adding a 2nd or even a 3rd lid, a seal can be made. And as someone else stated, some jars might not have a flat top lip, so the lids will never seal or stay on. I use a dark red nail polish to mark an X on each side of the jar so I don't try to reuse it. Those are saved for simple non-seal storage.
I had huge problems with the regular lid sealer vs the wide mouth . this is what helped 1) make sure to have adequate head space so there is plenty of vacuum holding the lid down. 2) put a thin film of vegetable oil on the FS blue ring so it slides off easier 3) remove the food saver hose from the sealer before attempting to remove the sealer so there's no suction on that side.
It took me a while to figure out the Food Saver mason jar vacuum lids, here is what i learned and now it works for me every time. First I put the mason jar lids in the oven at 170*F, this makes the “rubber” gummy and soft. Place a warm jar lid on a jar and when you put the Food Saver vacuum lid on the jar with the lid, twist the Food Saver vacuum attachment as you are pushing it down, this will stop the gasket from rolling in its groove and peeling off. Do the same when removing it from the jar. Second, as soon as the vacuum machine has finished the cycle, while pressing down lightly on the Food Saver lid, quickly disconnect the hose AT THE FOOD SAVER LID not at the machine. I think if you disconnect at the machine or use the off switch on the machine the pressure differential is not abrupt enough between the inside of the jar and the inside of the vacuum attachment to let the jar lid "grab" onto the jar and make a seal. Hope this makes sense...
What a helpful video! I have had several issues with the small mouth sealer. Your hint about the foodsaver canisters was the bomb! I have them and the jars seal wonderfully. Thanks.
Great and timely video, for me! Yep, it happened to me...my NEW small mouth sealer, is malfunctioning, Will try the double lid, Will also check out your Vacuum Chambers, I have the Break Bleeder put have not tried that yet. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!!
I wish I had found this video months ago - I finally saw the double stack method of regular lids and successfully worked it this weekend. I had to use the brake bleeder pump on regular jars until now.
Thanks so much!!I I found out a possible reason this happens with the smaller lids. Some people found the Older lids in antique stores and they had about four times as much rubber!!! We used them again and again. Now they skimp on the rubber and recommend you only use them once and throw them away! Another way to sell more and Waste good materials!! I appreciate your New Method! I gave up on Foodsavers too breaking after two years. I use mostly jars. I have some things over 30 years old I treat kindly. However, three different sealers broke sealing mostly jars so I am doing it your way!! Thanks again! Foodsaver is going to carry the lid sealers. They ran out and had to wait a long time for them to be made again. And shipped during Covid I imagine from another country!
O yes, I have found that too, I came across some never opened boxes of wide mouth Kerr lids at a garage sale one time that looked to have been from no later than the 70's. MUCH thicker! However, since the wide and regular mouth lids of today are both as thin as each other, if that were the issue with using the foodsaver tops, then it would be problematic for both sizes. I stopped having problems with the regular mouth when I started using the brake bleeder pump instead but never had problems with the wide mouth when using the foodsaver machine.
Following your example, I found a bleeder kit at my local Harbor Freight store. Medical supply stores have oxygen supply tubing at various sizes. I found that oxygen supply tubing with an ID of 1/8" and 1/4" OD, will fit snugly into the opening of the food saver cap so that you don't have to hold it in place. This tubing also has quick disconnects that fit nicely into the brass nipple of the vacuum pump. And yes, I agree with you in that food savers do not hold up and are ultimately a waste of money, but if you are so inclined, you can take one apart and I bet that you would find that the pump part still works. Extract that and put it in its own housing, along with its power source and you have an alternate way to gain vacuum. Also, I was thinking that the air pump found in blood pressure monitors might be adapted for that same purpose. ... heck, if you can find a way to adapt the opening of a vacuum cleaner, you would have a neat way to suck the air out of your Vacuum Chamber ... think larger vacuum chambers for larger jars.
Dennis Bosworth...would you please tell me what ID 1/8th & 1/4 OD mean? Inside diameter and outside? I don't know how to even ask for this or look for it....I want so much to try this given I have the Food Saver tops-quite a few of the wide & regular.... thank you...very much !
I reuse old lids with my vacuum jar sealing. Thanks for the tips on using the regular mouth jar sealer, which has been a problem for me, too. We are on vacation, but I'll try the tips when we get back home. My Food Saver machine that is over 20 years old, and I use it several times a week mostly with the bags.
I have had issues with the regular mouth gasket popping out... not a huge deal as it goes right back in as you said. Just glad I had ordered these before the pandemic and the shortages began...now they are gouging people like crazy. People are having to pay double and triple the cost for these accessories. I haven't used my Food Saver in quite awhile because it hasn't been sealing right.
I have done this several times ( years ) except I put the second lid the opposite way ( the waxy part of the spare lid next to the top inside of food saver piece) which will eliminate the lids sticking together
If I found foodsaver tops here in UK, anybody can too. The secret is to still order even when they say it is out of stock. It worked too on pressure canner Presto.
Thank you so much, I just got mine from amazon today. They have been on back order. I placed my order maybe three weeks ago but they did finally show up😇😇😇
this is my take on the regular mouth sealer issue... first off, ensure the rubber gasket on the lid is not cold, but at least room temp so it is pliable. i cut an 11inch cable tie to fit the wall inside of the sealer lid, crocheted a chain of cotton yarn and stuck it inside the the gap of the gasket to tighten evything up, then place a used lid upside down on the jar lid... viola! enjoy!
I ordered my lid kit straight from the FoodSaver website 3 weeks ago and received them a few days ago. Granted, I had to keep checking, but they finally came in!!!
Also, I am impressed with your very informative presentations and subscribed , Looking forward to your demos. Love be with you and your viewers. Thank you !!! P. S. just checked lids on the tops and they are still vacuumed and tight and I can still pick them up by the lid edges. This is so easy when you know what your doing ! Bless you. Maybe I did it right.. Yeah !
Thank you so much for this video. I am having fun vacuum sealing with the Brake Bleeder Pump! Grew tired of looking for sealer kits. Found Ball Lids at Walmart and Ball Jars at Lowe’s ! Thanks
@@jeddiajones4570 I am pretty happy with it so far. I only bought it to try it out so I could review it because for those just starting out, it is certainly the most cost effective way!
Heather Gravel....I'm so glad to hear that...mine came today...I have two from Ebay...but don't know what hose to use with it....Can you tell me what to use? I haven't opened pkg...yet... thanks much
I was having a hard time getting mine to get on and off and would pull lid off even if it sealed. So I put just a drop of cookin oil on rubber Then it would not seal at all
Thank you so much for sharing this information, you are a beautiful person and l’m grateful I found your channel it’s so helpful. God bless you. From NYC 🕊
I had been looking for the food saver jar lids and happened to notice that Amazon was expecting a shipment and was allowing pre orders. I ordered the set of both on September 8, 2020 and they shipped them to me on September 28, 2020. I just wanted to encourage others to read the print to the right. Even if they are out of stock at the moment, if Amazon knows there is more on the way, you can preorder. They didn't charge me until it shipped.
Yep, I did a video just on that about a month ago. When it says "Temporarily out of stock" but still allows you to order, then you should order as you will get it shipped to you once they restock
It does work using 2 lids and you can just remove the second lid easily. You have to use "already used lids" for it to work the right way but you can try a new lid heated in hot water before you vacuum .
I ordered both attachments in July. I received my wide mouth a few weeks ago, my small mouth came yesterday. I was told they were going to quit taking orders for both sizes until they are caught up on back orders
I get that. We have had a hard time keeping up on the vacuum chambers Patrick has been making. Hope to get a bunch up later today but between the time it takes to make them, the availability of parts and even the availability of packaging for shipping being scarce, it has been quite the challenge!
The two lid trick worked for me…..but without the ring! I put the ring on and it won’t seal. In either case, the two lid method is what I’ll use for now. Thank you folks for your help! 👍😉
Hey I couldn't get this to work until I used the vacuum sealer on the flat lid alone. It clicked right away and showed me it was working by releasing the scent of the contents. Putting the pump on the table and pushing down on it reduced hand fatigue. I put the rings back on afterwards - which is something I never do with heat- canned jars. Remember not to stack jars on top of each other. . . . And seal them with the rings off!
Yes, when using the foodsaver tops, you cannot leave the rings on, only put them on after the jar is sealed but when using the vacuum chamber instead, the rings need to be on but not tightly. I always store vacuum sealed jars with the rings on and I also stack them..
I have done a limited amount of oven canning but just to kill bug larvae in rice and such. It's not difficult but you need to do your research on what things are appropriate. 😊
I never had any luck using the Food Saver to seal the regular mouth jars without doubling the lids. Since I got the brake bleeder (same one as yours), I’ve had success every time. And it’s way more convenient than dragging out the machine especially since I weigh out my coffee beans in individual pots in the jelly jars. I love the brake bleeder. You also mentioned oven canning. I tried that last spring (when we first went into lockdown) since I had a lot of very expensive flour (yeah, your wondering just how expensive flour can get. Well $60/10 Kg bag expensive) that I didn’t want to lose. We eat ketovore here the last couple years so I am not currently using it. I followed the U-tube videos to the letter and had condensation form inside the bottles on cooling. And I absolutely had no moisture inside my jars (they were in the oven of my gas stove for 3 or 4 days drying at 130 degrees F). The pilot light keeps the oven constantly at 130. Neither was there any possibility that the lids weren’t dry for the same reason. I’m guessing maybe my kitchen is too cool in the early spring for this to work. Don’t know why but wasn’t a success story here.
I have never tried oven canning myself but seems like more of a hassle than what it is worth but I can see it being a good option for those who have no other means and are also looking to kill any bugs/eggs that may be in flours and grains
Rain Country: I had it in the freezer for a few years (along with a specialty pasta, herbs, dried beans and other stuff that needn’t be there). I wanted the freezer space for, you guessed it: animal proteins. I’d be embarrassed to buy yet another freezer sooo.... Freezers here were pretty scarce last spring as folks were kicking themselves for discarding their old 25 cubic foot freezers and replacing them with 3 cubic foot freezers and were all trying to buy big ones again - in the usual panic.
I ordered the brake bleeder per your recommendation a ways back, but haven't used it yet. At least I have it when the time arises that I need it, thanks for these valuable tips, blessings
I have the brake bleeder, I just can't find the tops to put on the jars to use it. Any suggestions where to find especially a reg size one. Want both tho. Thank You
I ordered the brake bleeder too per her recommendation and I have used it and it works. Just make sure there is absolutely nothing on the rim of the jar or the rubber part of the lid. Seals every time. Just like she said pump until you see the needle on the gauge quit moving and , Voila! Sealed jar
They have discontinued making the Regular Jar Sealer. I had one on back order and I received an email saying the Company will not be making them to ship to the vendors and they were being discontinued. I ended up buying one on eBay for 3xs the price.... UGH! Prices on these are getting really high. So if you need one get it while you can (No Pun) . Also I have heard two rumors about the jars and lids. I heard no new shipments will be sent to vendors prior to March of next year and then I heard another not until fall of next year. So if you see jars and lids you may want to grab them as the ones out there are all that is available. Happy Hunting!
Thank you, I saw you do this a couple of months ago and the brake bleeder is the only way I can seal the regular mouth jars. The Foodsaver will not work, at all for me on those.
After putting the jar sealer on the jar, I stretch a Healthcare glove over the entire lid to the jar, then snip an opening to connect the tubing and seal. It works for me everything using only one jar lid.
I've been using the vac lids for several years. What I found was I have to press down on the reg mouth vac lid while the foodsaver was running. Works every time for me.
Thank you! I was kind of expecting her to use a vacuum sealer to show the regular mouth problems. My hand are in bad shape with arthritis so the brake bleeder is out for me. I am definitely going to try this today. I have been so frustrated with this that I gave up on sealing the regular size.
Here is a suggestion, poke a tiny hole in the middle of the lid and place electrical tape with a one side curled on to idself so when you go to remove the lid, you can pull on the tape with the crease in it so you don't have to use those edge removers, they destroy lids quickly.
Being unable to find a FoodSaver lid sealer, I purchased an Olivia Mason jar sealer. Works the same. I was going to include a link, but looks like they’re now out of stock, too.
The vacuum chamber Patrick made since I shot this video has been a good seller on our store. We just keep selling out so it is not always available. He was able to put a bunch up last night though.
Thank you for sharing ❤️💗❤️💖 I have the wide mouth top, can't find my reg top I do have one of the canister.....YAY.....now I can do the regular tops..... Awesome BOSTO:BE OF SERVICE TO OTHERS Sharing your channel is BOSTO 😁👍👏🤗💖
Someone commented on Amazon about this trick. Just a bit differently. Second lid , still 3 small holes into it, place in too of dealing lid tops facing each other. That way they don't stick to each other.
PLEASE NOTE: This video was shot before we started offering the Vacuum Chambers for sealing jars on our store. We are currently out of stock but should have more up some time today (10/8/20) and no later than tomorrow morning. If you do not see them in stock, just keep checking back, Patrick has been working constantly to hunt down more parts and to get more made so please be patients since it is just him making them. Thank you!
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With food saver, putting the second one on top upside, down seals and keeps the second one from attaching to the first one, and keeps the gasket on! A win win for those using food saver
I cut out parchment paper to fit between the two regular top lids. That keeps the lids from sticking together.
Thanks for the tip
Get an old pressure cooker stick the hose on the weight stem put tape over safty vents. Fill it with jars. Pump and seal them all at the same time be blessed
No kidding. What a great idea!
What a great Idea.
Seriously? Why an old pressure cooker? The newer ones don't have the vent? Thanks for the tip! 😍
Wow this is awesome news !! I want to use other jars too!! Thank you so much!!
I drilled a small hole into a lid and glue tacked it into the top the the sealer cap. This not only pushes the lid to be sealed down like an extra lid would but also relieves the vacuum between the lids. This eliminates the double lid problem as demonstrated in the video.
THANK YOU for this video! I thought I was going crazy...one worked and one didn't. It's good to know I'm not alone. I haven't tried your tips yet, but am hopeful they'll solve my problem.
Morning everyone! I have a vacuum sealer, and I was having problems with it not sealing, also. After watching lots of help videos that didn’t help, I finally bowed my head and asked the Lord what I haven’t tried! He told me that when I put the vacuum hose into the sealer appliance and put the lid down to seal, hit seal, then hold in the vacuum hose tightly to the appliance! Since then, I have had a seal every time! You can hear the difference. I guess the “tube” on the hose may not be long enough to reach inside? Thought I would pass along my success!
Wow He Answers Prayees when we really need it isn't it awesome??! 🙏🙏💜
The green attachment is real loose on the food saver, it just wobbles. What am I doing wrong
Omg I finally got my regular mouth jar sealer I put myself on Amazon when it comes in to ship and it finally came so I have 1 large and 1 regular mouth sealer and I got my brake bleeder...I also ordered oxygen absorbers...I'm so happy..Love your videos they are so helpful!!❤❤
I just got my tops from EBay! Came here because I started on regular jars and became very frustrated after one seal in the tries.,. I'll do the one extra lid placed upwards. Also I've been saving papers to wrap my jars in to pack away so that they don't get broken. They aren't going up on some shelves
Hello Heidi , you can just use an old lid drill a small hole in it and it will seal and you never have two lids stick together i just tried it on mine works perfectly .
THANK YOU!!!!!!! The double lid method worked for me because it would seal but the blue ring kept pulling the lid back off. Now it's working fine. 😃 Blessings and greetings from Chicagoland.
Great video... thank you! I noticed in the video you pried off the lids with a can opener. There's a better way to get the lids off the jar that doesn't ruin the lids. Use a spoon with the convex side facing up. Then run the spoon along the rim of the jar until it reaches the lid. Then just lift the spoon up to pry off the lid. It doesn't ruin the lid at all. I've had some lids for over 10 years and they still look practically new.
I am SO excited. I got a FoodSaver and the jar accessories... played with it and sealed dried beans tonight. Getting my brake bleeder soon and one of Mr.Rain's cannister is next on my list. My list of things that I'm going to use it for is expanding..lol thanks for the info Heidi!!
I got my food saver tops on ebay
Oven canning isn't recommended by the jar manufacturers because they aren't designed for dry heat and can cause breakage...just putting that out there ....
Thank you for all the info. My problem was that I didn't know to leave the ring off. Use the attachment with the lid on the jar. After sealed THEN put the ring on the jar. Lord what a mess I've made but so glad I didn't give up. I do plan to get the pump in this video though. Ty ty THANK YOU
Thank you so much!! The “double lid for regular mouth” solved my sealing issue. Cheers! 🍻
Thank you so much for this great video!!!! I am absolutely going to get a hand pump!!! After too many frustrating dry canning failures with those food savers, I am so over these gadgets. I just oven sealed 25 jars of Oats, after most of the lids did not seal properly with a brand new food saver. By the way, Rolled Oats seal in a 200 degree oven in 30 minutes!!! Easy peasy!
Heidi, I wanted to share that I have found that removing the regular mouth vacuum top with a gentle twist, comes off easily without pulling the gasket off, hope that helps
Thanks for the good information. I couldn't get my regulator seal with my new vacuum sealer and thinking the sealer was not strong enough. But I will try your method. Enjoy your video as always!
Heidi, I have had issues both sealer tops. I am waiting to get the one Patrick is making. Thank you Heidi for covering all of the problems with the jar sealer! just love how to try to keep helping us.
I had an issue getting a consistent vacuum seal with the wide mouth sealer top due to inconsistent jar shapes. I tried all the tips but finally resolved the issue with an easy and inexpensive fix. I put 1 to 2 appropriately sized rubber bands around the rubber seal lip and now no issues and it seals much faster.
I don't understand what the rubber seal lip is. Are you putting rubber bands around the jar lip?
Apply the rubber bands to the outside diameter area around the soft seal and not directly on the jar mouth. You can adjust the tightness of the seal by how many and the strength of the rubber bands applied. Regards
I don't quite understand either. Do you mean you put the elastic around the edge of lid? If so, how do you place it on the jar? Does the elastic get sandwiched in between the lid and jar?
I had many small jars that wouldn’t seal. After watching this video I found that the two lids stuck together so I drilled a small hole in the top lid, about a 1/4 inch, and have had very few miss seals since. When I do have a miss seal now I find that the lid is slightly bent.
Enjoy your videos.
The double lids did the trick! Thank you so much!!!!
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just recently I received my jar sealer attachment. Thanks to you teaching me about which way to put in the gasket...worked immediately. Very grateful. I also have received the sealing chamber from you for other jars with brake bleeder. Works great!
Thank you for your video, it helped a lot. I thought it was me or my lids were ALL bad. For future reference, if you use a dented one for the top it doesn't seal to the other one and no lid waste.
I had a LOT of problems with sealing jars…large mouth and small mouth…NOTHING WORKED. THEN I found…especially when sealing the small mouth jars, that if i press down on the hose that goes into the white jar sealer, AND on the white jar sealer, I no longer have problems sealing my jars. Thank God!!! 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸
Thank you for the tips. Using double lid method on regular mouth jars worked great!!!! Thank you!
THANK YOU THANKYOU!!! I ORDERED A SECOND FOOD SAVER SEALER THINKING THE FIRST ONE WAS JUNK FOR REGULAR SIZED LIDS. IT DID THE SAME CRAP! CAN'T AFFORD A BRAKE BLEEDER RIGHT NOW BUT WILL KEEP IT ON MY WISH LIST. YOU ROCK!!!
Heidi on a lot of the older jars the rim is the problem. The rim is not at a standard placement. This is why you will need two lids. The two lids raises the lid attachment off the rim making the jar seal. I have found on older jars the rim is a shorter distance from the top of the jar.
Good info on the brake bleeder, it may not pull the powder up under the sealing ring. will try that. We have had good luck using the food saver canisters and pickle jars, pasta sauce jars, olive jars from the grocery store. One commenter said they were sealing multiple jars with a pressure cooker, we will try that next. Thanks for the info/ideas!!!
Thank you for this video it has been so helpful. I thought I just got a bad regular mouth vacuum sealer and was very disappointed. After watching your videos I bought a break bleeder and I am vacuum sealing all kinds of good stuff.
Much appreciation🙏
You’re a great teacher. I have been very successful at these tools thanks to you.
I just got my set up and I tried a regular mouth jars and had a tough time. So glad I came across this video.
Heidi, off topic, but wanted to let you know that thanks to your wine making inspiration, I started a gallon and half gallon of mint wine the beginning of September. I removed the air locks last night and both were a success. I used apple mint, chocolate mint and a little lemon balm. They will be perfect for making some elixirs and alone have the benefits of the mint as well I would imagine. I had lots of mint, and wondered if mint wine was possible to use, so googled and found that it was indeed. I used my own berry ferment starter which I also learned from you for one, and the half gallon, I tried bread yeast. I made mint tea and then added the sugar and water to it after straining. The half gallon with the yeast is stronger, I am not a fan of wine and don’t drink, but had hubby taste it, he said it tasted a little like whisky, the other jar tasted better a little sweeter tasting maybe. Regardless, even though we don’t drink, I was super excited they worked and I now have homemade bases for elixirs. Thank you so much for sharing, for inspiring, for teaching. You are appreciated more than you may ever know. ❤️
Just thought I'd let you know that I couldn't get any of my regular jar lids to seal and was about to break down yet and buy another piece of equipment, but the double stacking of lids to seal the jar worked and I haven't had any double seals yet only the one that is suppose to. Thanks for sharing the info. I still might get the brake pump though just in case the SHTF
Many suggested turning the top lid upside down to prevent double sealing. Mine likely did that because I used the brake bleeder which seems to draw a better vacuum than the standard foodsaver machines, which is why I never needed to use a double lid with it
I used an extra lid with a amall hole punced in the top on top of the jar lid for the regular lids - worked great. Will try it with the brake bleeder.
Good thinking!
Heidi - Thanks for the tips! I was not able to get my Jar Sealers during the fall. Right after the first of the year, they became available on FoodSaver's website. I ordered and got them! I had no problems with the wide mouth jars, but the regular ones were a challenge. First mistake - put the gasket in upside down. (Thanks for that instruction!) After that, I was 6 for 7 and got the 7th on the second try. Love your videos!
The two lid trick does work and it’s not difficulty to separate the two lids should they seal together. To save time and effort I simply start with two lids.I’ve totally given up on Food Saver products after receiving poor customer service from them. It’s funny that you mentioned the canisters and their use. I didn’t know what they were for either.
Heads up people. I just received my vacuum sealer chamber yesterday. It is such a simple tool to use. Patrick is building a tool that equals ones from the past. I would recommend buying this instead of the food saver lids. I am noticing a shortage of jars for canning. With this handy tool one can reuse store bought food jars. If canning jars become a hard to source item, this will free up some of your canning jars from storing dehydrated foods. If you compare the price of a set of food saver lids to the vacuum sealing chamber, right now they are comparable due to the rising cost of the lids. Factoring in the ability to utilize various size jars up to a quart, in my opinion the vacuum sealing chamber is the most cost effective way to go. As more people run out of canning jars, the alternative use of mylar bags with O2 absorbers will see a shortage also. Plus the cost of purchasing them will rise. God bless.
Thank you Elizabeth!
I also found that sometimes the height between the jar threads and the jar shoulder is too short for the sealer top, so by adding a 2nd or even a 3rd lid, a seal can be made. And as someone else stated, some jars might not have a flat top lip, so the lids will never seal or stay on. I use a dark red nail polish to mark an X on each side of the jar so I don't try to reuse it. Those are saved for simple non-seal storage.
I had huge problems with the regular lid sealer vs the wide mouth . this is what helped 1) make sure to have adequate head space so there is plenty of vacuum holding the lid down. 2) put a thin film of vegetable oil on the FS blue ring so it slides off easier 3) remove the food saver hose from the sealer before attempting to remove the sealer so there's no suction on that side.
I have tried everything you said with the small lid and I can not get it to seal, and I just got them I am ready to give up I am so frustrated
@@reneellis7101I agree with ya on that!!
Using your method works! Using the table to help me pump worked perfectly! Thanks!
It took me a while to figure out the Food Saver mason jar vacuum lids, here is what i learned and now it works for me every time. First I put the mason jar lids in the oven at 170*F, this makes the “rubber” gummy and soft. Place a warm jar lid on a jar and when you put the Food Saver vacuum lid on the jar with the lid, twist the Food Saver vacuum attachment as you are pushing it down, this will stop the gasket from rolling in its groove and peeling off. Do the same when removing it from the jar. Second, as soon as the vacuum machine has finished the cycle, while pressing down lightly on the Food Saver lid, quickly disconnect the hose AT THE FOOD SAVER LID not at the machine. I think if you disconnect at the machine or use the off switch on the machine the pressure differential is not abrupt enough between the inside of the jar and the inside of the vacuum attachment to let the jar lid "grab" onto the jar and make a seal. Hope this makes sense...
Turn the top lid upside down on top of the sealing lid then vacuum seal so the top one will not seal to the jar and waste a lid..
This still didn’t seal my jars.
Thank you for the information. I just received my food saver tops from Amazon this week. I took 6 weeks to get them.
I use the FoodSaver handheld sealer and am very pleased.
You are such a good teacher. Love your videos.
What a helpful video! I have had several issues with the small mouth sealer. Your hint about the foodsaver canisters was the bomb! I have them and the jars seal wonderfully. Thanks.
Great and timely video, for me! Yep, it happened to me...my NEW small mouth sealer, is malfunctioning, Will try the double lid, Will also check out your Vacuum Chambers, I have the Break Bleeder put have not tried that yet. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!!
I wish I had found this video months ago - I finally saw the double stack method of regular lids and successfully worked it this weekend. I had to use the brake bleeder pump on regular jars until now.
Thanks so much!!I I found out a possible reason this happens with the smaller lids. Some people found the Older lids in antique stores and they had about four times as much rubber!!! We used them again and again. Now they skimp on the rubber and recommend you only use them once and throw them away! Another way to sell more and Waste good materials!! I appreciate your New Method! I gave up on Foodsavers too breaking after two years. I use mostly jars. I have some things over 30 years old I treat kindly. However, three different sealers broke sealing mostly jars so I am doing it your way!! Thanks again! Foodsaver is going to carry the lid sealers. They ran out and had to wait a long time for them to be made again. And shipped during Covid I imagine from another country!
O yes, I have found that too, I came across some never opened boxes of wide mouth Kerr lids at a garage sale one time that looked to have been from no later than the 70's. MUCH thicker! However, since the wide and regular mouth lids of today are both as thin as each other, if that were the issue with using the foodsaver tops, then it would be problematic for both sizes. I stopped having problems with the regular mouth when I started using the brake bleeder pump instead but never had problems with the wide mouth when using the foodsaver machine.
Following your example, I found a bleeder kit at my local Harbor Freight store. Medical supply stores have oxygen supply tubing at various sizes. I found that oxygen supply tubing with an ID of 1/8" and 1/4" OD, will fit snugly into the opening of the food saver cap so that you don't have to hold it in place. This tubing also has quick disconnects that fit nicely into the brass nipple of the vacuum pump.
And yes, I agree with you in that food savers do not hold up and are ultimately a waste of money, but if you are so inclined, you can take one apart and I bet that you would find that the pump part still works. Extract that and put it in its own housing, along with its power source and you have an alternate way to gain vacuum. Also, I was thinking that the air pump found in blood pressure monitors might be adapted for that same purpose. ... heck, if you can find a way to adapt the opening of a vacuum cleaner, you would have a neat way to suck the air out of your Vacuum Chamber ... think larger vacuum chambers for larger jars.
Dennis Bosworth...would you please tell me what ID 1/8th & 1/4 OD mean? Inside diameter and outside? I don't know how to even ask for this or look for it....I want so much to try this given I have the Food Saver tops-quite a few of the wide & regular.... thank you...very much !
I reuse old lids with my vacuum jar sealing. Thanks for the tips on using the regular mouth jar sealer, which has been a problem for me, too. We are on vacation, but I'll try the tips when we get back home. My Food Saver machine that is over 20 years old, and I use it several times a week mostly with the bags.
I have had issues with the regular mouth gasket popping out... not a huge deal as it goes right back in as you said. Just glad I had ordered these before the pandemic and the shortages began...now they are gouging people like crazy. People are having to pay double and triple the cost for these accessories. I haven't used my Food Saver in quite awhile because it hasn't been sealing right.
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I have done this several times ( years ) except I put the second lid the opposite way ( the waxy part of the spare lid next to the top inside of food saver piece) which will eliminate the lids sticking together
If I found foodsaver tops here in UK, anybody can too. The secret is to still order even when they say it is out of stock. It worked too on pressure canner Presto.
Heidi, I use 2 lids but turn the top one upside down. That way it doesn’t seal together. This gives the extra pressure to the bottom lid.
Thank you so much, I just got mine from amazon today. They have been on back order. I placed my order maybe three weeks ago but they did finally show up😇😇😇
this is my take on the regular mouth sealer issue... first off, ensure the rubber gasket on the lid is not cold, but at least room temp so it is pliable. i cut an 11inch cable tie to fit the wall inside of the sealer lid, crocheted a chain of cotton yarn and stuck it inside the the gap of the gasket to tighten evything up, then place a used lid upside down on the jar lid... viola! enjoy!
I ordered my lid kit straight from the FoodSaver website 3 weeks ago and received them a few days ago. Granted, I had to keep checking, but they finally came in!!!
I got my vacuum chamber and cant wait to work with it. Thank you for sharing.
Thank You ! that double lid method did the trick!
Thank you for showing how to do this. I ordered the brake bleeder and a friend sent me a jar sealer so thank you. I needed these instructions.m
Also, I am impressed with your very informative presentations and subscribed , Looking forward to your demos. Love be with you and your viewers. Thank you !!! P. S. just checked lids on the tops and they are still vacuumed and tight and I can still pick them up by the lid edges. This is so easy when you know what your doing ! Bless you. Maybe I did it right.. Yeah !
Thank you so much for this video. I am having fun vacuum sealing with the Brake Bleeder Pump! Grew tired of looking for sealer kits. Found Ball Lids at Walmart and Ball Jars at Lowe’s ! Thanks
This solved my problem with regular mouth lids! Thank you!
I just picked up a jar sealing kit on Amazon that came with a regular and wide-mouth top, a hose and a vacuum pump for under $20. Works great.
likely the same one I covered in this video: th-cam.com/video/gBp7TuZ1jhw/w-d-xo.html
@@RainCountryHomestead That's the one!
@@jeddiajones4570 I am pretty happy with it so far. I only bought it to try it out so I could review it because for those just starting out, it is certainly the most cost effective way!
Thank you I was having this exact problem .
Agree. The regular mouth is a pain. I do use the food saver but I know Harbor Freight carry the bleeder
Just ordered your chamberand hose amazing!! Picking up my brake bleeder kit tomorrow so I will be ready!
I use the small and large sealers with the little fresh saver vacuum. Works every time.
Heather Gravel....I'm so glad to hear that...mine came today...I have two from Ebay...but don't know what hose to use with it....Can you tell me what to use? I haven't opened pkg...yet... thanks much
Just to let you know, they now make mylaar storage bags that are channeled so they can be used with vacuum sealers just like food saver bags.
A bit of lard on the gasket of the food saver lids helps also
I was having a hard time getting mine to get on and off and would pull lid off even if it sealed. So I put just a drop of cookin oil on rubber Then it would not seal at all
@@coolpop19 I'm surprised that happened because mine has never worked better.
Thank you so much for sharing this information, you are a beautiful person and l’m grateful I found your channel it’s so helpful. God bless you. From NYC 🕊
AWESOME!! PULLED OUT 1/2 MY HAIR SUNDAY. I noticed my wide mouth one is actually GLUED in unlike the regular mouth.
Did you glue the gasket into your regular mouth one? I have been contemplating doing this. If so, what type if glue did you use? Thank you !
I had been looking for the food saver jar lids and happened to notice that Amazon was expecting a shipment and was allowing pre orders. I ordered the set of both on September 8, 2020 and they shipped them to me on September 28, 2020. I just wanted to encourage others to read the print to the right. Even if they are out of stock at the moment, if Amazon knows there is more on the way, you can preorder. They didn't charge me until it shipped.
Yep, I did a video just on that about a month ago. When it says "Temporarily out of stock" but still allows you to order, then you should order as you will get it shipped to you once they restock
Thank you for sharing. Mine would not seal and I pumped 40 pumps on my big mouth sealing. Will continue to try again.
Thank you! I had a heck of a day with the regular mouth yesterday!
It does work using 2 lids and you can just remove the second lid easily. You have to use "already used lids" for it to work the right way but you can try a new lid heated in hot water before you vacuum .
What? Must use *used* lid?
I am thoroughly confused.
Thank you!! I just got the wide mouth one in so hopefully I won't have any issues! ~jc
I never had problems with the wide mouth myself
I ordered both attachments in July. I received my wide mouth a few weeks ago, my small mouth came yesterday.
I was told they were going to quit taking orders for both sizes until they are caught up on back orders
I get that. We have had a hard time keeping up on the vacuum chambers Patrick has been making. Hope to get a bunch up later today but between the time it takes to make them, the availability of parts and even the availability of packaging for shipping being scarce, it has been quite the challenge!
@@RainCountryHomestead I can understand that. Patrick making those will be a great help. I forwarded that link to my sister 😊
The two lid trick worked for me…..but without the ring! I put the ring on and it won’t seal. In either case, the two lid method is what I’ll use for now. Thank you folks for your help! 👍😉
Yes, when using the food saver tops, you cannot use the band while sealing, that goes on after sealing
@@RainCountryHomestead aaaahhh I did not know that! Geez 😬
Hey I couldn't get this to work until I used the vacuum sealer on the flat lid alone. It clicked right away and showed me it was working by releasing the scent of the contents. Putting the pump on the table and pushing down on it reduced hand fatigue. I put the rings back on afterwards - which is something I never do with heat- canned jars. Remember not to stack jars on top of each other. . . . And seal them with the rings off!
Yes, when using the foodsaver tops, you cannot leave the rings on, only put them on after the jar is sealed but when using the vacuum chamber instead, the rings need to be on but not tightly. I always store vacuum sealed jars with the rings on and I also stack them..
@@RainCountryHomestead Thank you!
I have done a limited amount of oven canning but just to kill bug larvae in rice and such. It's not difficult but you need to do your research on what things are appropriate. 😊
I never had any luck using the Food Saver to seal the regular mouth jars without doubling the lids. Since I got the brake bleeder (same one as yours), I’ve had success every time. And it’s way more convenient than dragging out the machine especially since I weigh out my coffee beans in individual pots in the jelly jars. I love the brake bleeder.
You also mentioned oven canning. I tried that last spring (when we first went into lockdown) since I had a lot of very expensive flour (yeah, your wondering just how expensive flour can get. Well $60/10 Kg bag expensive) that I didn’t want to lose. We eat ketovore here the last couple years so I am not currently using it. I followed the U-tube videos to the letter and had condensation form inside the bottles on cooling. And I absolutely had no moisture inside my jars (they were in the oven of my gas stove for 3 or 4 days drying at 130 degrees F). The pilot light keeps the oven constantly at 130. Neither was there any possibility that the lids weren’t dry for the same reason. I’m guessing maybe my kitchen is too cool in the early spring for this to work. Don’t know why but wasn’t a success story here.
I have never tried oven canning myself but seems like more of a hassle than what it is worth but I can see it being a good option for those who have no other means and are also looking to kill any bugs/eggs that may be in flours and grains
Rain Country: I had it in the freezer for a few years (along with a specialty pasta, herbs, dried beans and other stuff that needn’t be there). I wanted the freezer space for, you guessed it: animal proteins. I’d be embarrassed to buy yet another freezer sooo.... Freezers here were pretty scarce last spring as folks were kicking themselves for discarding their old 25 cubic foot freezers and replacing them with 3 cubic foot freezers and were all trying to buy big ones again - in the usual panic.
I used an old lid for my top it comes off easy.
I tried the ziplock pump on my food saver jar sealer tops and it worked for sealing my jars lid's
I ordered the brake bleeder per your recommendation a ways back, but haven't used it yet. At least I have it when the time arises that I need it, thanks for these valuable tips, blessings
I have the brake bleeder, I just can't find the tops to put on the jars to use it. Any suggestions where to find especially a reg size one. Want both tho.
Thank You
I ordered the brake bleeder too per her recommendation and I have used it and it works. Just make sure there is absolutely nothing on the rim of the jar or the rubber part of the lid. Seals every time. Just like she said pump until you see the needle on the gauge quit moving and , Voila! Sealed jar
They have discontinued making the Regular Jar Sealer. I had one on back order and I received an email saying the Company will not be making them to ship to the vendors and they were being discontinued. I ended up buying one on eBay for 3xs the price.... UGH! Prices on these are getting really high. So if you need one get it while you can (No Pun) . Also I have heard two rumors about the jars and lids. I heard no new shipments will be sent to vendors prior to March of next year and then I heard another not until fall of next year. So if you see jars and lids you may want to grab them as the ones out there are all that is available. Happy Hunting!
Heidi I’m going to try your method. Your a wealth of knowledge. I appreciate you sharing all of your tips and tricks. God bless y’all.
I haven't had any trouble with the regular lids since I started using the brake bleeder pump.
Thank you for your tips.
Thank you, I saw you do this a couple of months ago and the brake bleeder is the only way I can seal the regular mouth jars. The Foodsaver will not work, at all for me on those.
After putting the jar sealer on the jar, I stretch a Healthcare glove over the entire lid to the jar, then snip an opening to connect the tubing and seal. It works for me everything using only one jar lid.
I've been using the vac lids for several years. What I found was I have to press down on the reg mouth vac lid while the foodsaver was running. Works every time for me.
Thank you! I was kind of expecting her to use a vacuum sealer to show the regular mouth problems. My hand are in bad shape with arthritis so the brake bleeder is out for me. I am definitely going to try this today. I have been so frustrated with this that I gave up on sealing the regular size.
Here is a suggestion, poke a tiny hole in the middle of the lid and place electrical tape with a one side curled on to idself so when you go to remove the lid, you can pull on the tape with the crease in it so you don't have to use those edge removers, they destroy lids quickly.
Being unable to find a FoodSaver lid sealer, I purchased an Olivia Mason jar sealer. Works the same. I was going to include a link, but looks like they’re now out of stock, too.
The vacuum chamber Patrick made since I shot this video has been a good seller on our store. We just keep selling out so it is not always available. He was able to put a bunch up last night though.
Lee Willis I got mine on Amazon, but it took months to actually get it.
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I have the wide mouth top, can't find my reg top I do have one of the canister.....YAY.....now I can do the regular tops..... Awesome
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Someone commented on Amazon about this trick. Just a bit differently. Second lid , still 3 small holes into it, place in too of dealing lid tops facing each other. That way they don't stick to each other.
Just turn the top lid over so the seal faces up.
Good advice! Thanks
When the two lids seal together, I pop the top lid off with a butter knife.