This was TOO DANGEROUS for LTT - xTool D1 Pro Laser

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    We got the xTool D1 Pro Laser in for an LTT video, but it was far too risky to use unless you have training and the proper safety equipment. Luckily, we have Tynan! Now that we can use the laser, is this actually something the average person should buy?
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    CHAPTERS
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    0:00 We got a lot of warnings
    0:38 Why it's dangerous
    1:34 Setting up the enclosure and fume extractor
    4:23 Adding the honeycomb base
    5:41 Checking out the fire suppression system
    7:38 Why we're not using the included safety glasses
    8:58 Fire suppression test mode
    9:51 Sponsor - SOLIDWORKS
    10:24 Creative Space software and Base Material Pack
    11:52 Getting ready to etch
    13:44 Etching
    15:36 Testing the fire suppression system with a REAL fire
    16:35 Should this exist?
    17:34 Pricing is... a bit complicated
    18:09 Thoughts on the fire suppression system
    18:28 Outro
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  • @samo9288
    @samo9288 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2330

    Linus looks different

    • @romella_karmey
      @romella_karmey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      He’s become yummier 🫢🥴

    • @Justachamp772
      @Justachamp772 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Looks hotter

    • @racerex340
      @racerex340 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Linus actually looks like a moderately scuffed version of Tynan...
      He's the generic Tynan?

    • @mistakes4all
      @mistakes4all 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      See, the other Linus is the compact easy store model while this one is the normal size version. They worked the opposite way on these designs vs how they designed the screwdriver and stubby screwdriver.

    • @anthonyshiels9273
      @anthonyshiels9273 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@racerex340The resemblance to Linus is remarkable.

  • @JeskidoYT
    @JeskidoYT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +849

    Dang linus actually has a stunt double for when LTT does cinematic intros haha

    • @dolan-duk
      @dolan-duk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Linus + Hacksmith's lovechild.

    • @ulliulli
      @ulliulli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      So... we call Tynan now "RTX enabled Linus"?

    • @Lord_zeel
      @Lord_zeel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Intellectual stunt double!

  • @BrianDickens4
    @BrianDickens4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +620

    I guess they thought having Linus anywhere near this machine would be a bad idea 😂

    • @Anfros.
      @Anfros. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      It's one thing to goof around with keyboards or phones etc. But this is a piece of equipment that could seriously harm the user or anyone in the same room as the machine, or very easily start a fire. Noone who doesn't understand exactly what they are doing has any business messing around with lasercutters.

    • @eXtremeStreamers
      @eXtremeStreamers 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@Anfros. There's a time and place for fun and games.
      It isn't around that machine.

    • @Dylan20579
      @Dylan20579 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They used his stunt double

    • @Naokarma
      @Naokarma 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I mean, even Linus clearly thought that, given his reaction to it.

    • @stellarproductions8888
      @stellarproductions8888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are you kidding? If they let Linus have his way with this machine, he'd either drop it destroying a several thousand dollar laser machine, or he'd burn the place down, and find a way to sneak in a penis joke in there somewhere, cause of course, he can't but help himself to go there, even though his company just fell under serious levels of scrutiny.

  • @LPcrazy_88
    @LPcrazy_88 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1580

    One of the best ShortCircuits I've seen yet: Informative, respect for safety measures, cool tech, and Tynan. Couldn't ask for more.

    • @shawnhartmann1750
      @shawnhartmann1750 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Never have I needed that stupid fire suppression system with ANY of my lasers in the years I have been running them. I have cut cardboards on all of them and many, many other materials. I run a business with C02 and Diode lasers, the only small fire I had was when I was testing a specific kind of door mat that used Coconut hairs and I was right there because I knew the risk as I DID MY RESEARCH. Also, having to run the file from the machine button, that is on LTT for buying without doing their research. Speak with your wallet and don't give vendors who do this kind of thing or online only software (like Glowforge and Cricut) your money. They preach that we speak with our wallet and they do not follow their own advice.

    • @gregor2436
      @gregor2436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@shawnhartmann1750it is the issue with security measures. You should not need them. But if you need them, you are happy to have it.
      And to be honest: 200 bucs seem to be a good deal - especially it is a pretty undestructive method to put out a fire.

    • @halomika4973
      @halomika4973 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      ​@@shawnhartmann1750While I agree with most of your point, you seem to be a professional operator. Most people watching this channel are not professional laser operators.
      Fires can still happen. Has haopened to me.

    • @shawnhartmann1750
      @shawnhartmann1750 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@halomika4973 I wouldn't call me professional, everything is a Medium Side (cuz that's a thing right?) Hustle out of our house as we both still have day jobs. Do you know what the point of failure was that caused your fire?
      Most of the ones I have seen, were user error due to lack of cleaning and maintenance. Others have been lack of items such as upgraded exhaust and/or air assist. Not one that I have seen was because of the dangerous machine and a flammable material meeting for a late night tussle.

    • @LPcrazy_88
      @LPcrazy_88 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shawnhartmann1750 You seem to have missed quite a lot of what they tried to drive home in this video. This product is geared towards hobbyists and the default package is not safe period. Scoff all you want at a cheap safety system, but when you're spending thousands of dollars on a product, 200 for slight bit more peace of mind makes perfect sense to me. Accidents happen, failures happen, new people happen.
      I repair and maintain medical equipment, I work with just about about every laser that exists in my diagnostic equipment and in the medical equipment themselves from Dermatology lasers to CT machines. I really appreciate how they made an emphasis on the eye protection specifically because when I train new people that's one of the biggest things I harp on. Never trust the manufacturer, and check the wavelength rated on the glasses and the output of the device.
      They clearly didn't do their research but they also admitted as much and it's not exactly unsurprising. Lasers are cool and most people think "oh hey if it wasn't safe why would the manufacturer sell it". I can't speak to your software point, I have no idea what you're talking about because I have no experience using any of that. I will say xTool has a 30 day return window, and I highly doubt they were within that window for the first video they mentioned this thing.

  • @thatnerdyeight
    @thatnerdyeight 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +586

    Didn't even realize this video was 18 minutes long. Super educational, informative, and the pace & tone were perfect. We need more videos with Tynan as the host!

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Tynan is welcome to present Long Circuit any time. Knowledgeable guy.

    • @tynanstack7924
      @tynanstack7924 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Glad you enjoyed it!!

    • @stellarproductions8888
      @stellarproductions8888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@harbl99 Agreed! Tynan is knowledgeable in his field, professional, cares about safety as #1 priority when working with dangerous tools, doesn't drop things like an idiot, also presents information without having an immature uncontrollable urge to make a penis joke. Pretty much everything Linus should be but is not.

    • @henrikjohn6590
      @henrikjohn6590 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isnt that the guy that pissed off gamers nexus and that other yt creator?

    • @123superatom
      @123superatom 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@henrikjohn6590nope that guy is bald and Tynan does not

  • @MikeSamways
    @MikeSamways 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

    Linus's stunt double 😊

    • @BryAlrighty
      @BryAlrighty 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Linus if Linus was attractive.

  • @RyanMorash
    @RyanMorash 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +219

    Would love to see Tynan review more makerspace equipment like this in the future.

    • @FuttFel
      @FuttFel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He let the laser tickle the edge of a single board and then whinged about safety the other 17 minutes. They need to do better than that. Other TH-camrs that review these machines on weekly to daily basis do far more. Grid power tests, cut tests of various thicknesses, engraving on metal, plastic, paper, felt, cardboard, they test the rotary unit, the efficiency of the extraction from the manufacturers enclosure and so on.

    • @isaachenrikson3197
      @isaachenrikson3197 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FuttFel safety should be #1 priority, everything else is secondary. *after* you have a guaranteed safe system, the ability matters (especially for consumer devices such as this)

    • @FuttFel
      @FuttFel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@isaachenrikson3197 Of course. I have a 22w diode laser on the way and I ordered an enclosure and extraction system before even receiving the laser. So the video should've been 25 mins then. 10 mins about safety and the rest should've been about what the laser can do.

    • @isaachenrikson3197
      @isaachenrikson3197 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@FuttFelI think the reasoning is that Tynan wanted to make the video more about the safety (or lack of) of these hobby laser machines rather than the product itself

    • @lionnelmurimi651
      @lionnelmurimi651 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So he wasnt actually reviewing the product. Ive worked with 120W industrial lasers and the ammount of effort he is going through for safety is over the top, What I would recomend for a machine like this is to YES buy the expensive safety glasses as the number one thing. then afterwards make a heavy lunch, sit down and read the manual as you eat said lunch. the follow and do everything the manual says keeping common sense as the number one protector of your safety, IE dont put your hand in front of the laser to find out how hot it is.@@isaachenrikson3197

  • @huskers1278
    @huskers1278 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    Tynan needs to host more. Dude is super knowledgeable.

    • @TheCodeDaemon
      @TheCodeDaemon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes,of course that is the first thing I noticed.... 😜 #RTXLinus

  • @OddlyIncredible
    @OddlyIncredible 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    The scariest thing about laser cutter/engravers systems generally and open-frame setups like this in particular is the fact that human vision has a lot of failsafes and compensation mechanisms built into it, and you have to do a _LOT_ of damage to your eyes before you actually begin to notice. It's not uncommon for people that work with lasers to have retinas the look like Swiss cheese but are still able to "see" more-or-less because their brains are editing out the blind spots.
    To give an idea how dangerous a setup this really is: _The light from a 40W blue laser will almost instantly burn a hole in your retina just from the dot of laser light reflecting off a white wall._
    One of these days I might build myself a laser cutter/engraver, but if I do it'll be a fully enclosed box with an optically shielded camera inside to use to see what it's doing, and safety interlocks galore so it won't kill my peepers.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This mirrors my plan. Steel, no windows. Also only 5.5W

    • @OddlyIncredible
      @OddlyIncredible 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a green laser pointer. Only 5mW. I still treat it like an eye hazard even though it's not powerful enough to be one because holy _crap_ it's bright to the eye.

    • @NG-VQ37VHR
      @NG-VQ37VHR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Personally, I think the hysteria over laser cutters/engravers is over blown. I regularly work with a 2500 watt CO2 laser built by Cincinnati that has no issue cutting through 3/8" stainless. We've ran it for 15 years without an enclosure. Just don't be dumb and you'll be fine. It's the same with any tool you purchase. These small lasers aren't any more dangerous than an angle grinder. That's not to say an angle grinder isn't dangerous. I've personally seen an inch long metal wire sticking out of someone's eye, which had to be surgically removed, just because they forgot to put their glasses back on.
      But go watch any review video of an angle grinder. You won't find the same hysteria.
      People tend to handle self-preservation just fine on their own. Those that don't, will end up hurting themselves even with you telling them they need an enclosure.

    • @OddlyIncredible
      @OddlyIncredible 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NG-VQ37VHR _" Just don't be dumb and you'll be fine."_ Have you _talked_ to people lately? _"Dumb" is the norm._
      These are being sold to Joe & Jane Sixpack, who more than likely don't have any actual experience working with eye-hazardous lasers. The threat profile here is that you can get eye damage and not even know it, and in a home or home-workshop environment you have secondary victims (e.g., family/pets) that can also get hurt without realizing it.
      A hopefully-trained professional working with a commercial system that will almost certainly have integrated safeties (for example, I'd wager your CO2 system has interlocks to keep things like fingers out of the beam path) is a whole different animal than an amateur with a basic consumer system that has no real safeties to speak of aside from a little plastic shield around the diode's output end.

    • @Black3ternity
      @Black3ternity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@NG-VQ37VHR IMHO the main issue is that a laser seems fun and tinkery for everyone. Oh you can make nice wedding cards and wood puzzles. Theehee.
      An Angle grinder is loud, noisy and scary because it is a rotating machine. Laser? Probably fine because it has a tinted glass and I have fancy googles.
      Yes, both are dangerous. So is a kitchen knife. But you know a kitchen knife can be sharp as heck or stab your leg if it falls. Because you were taught properly. Laser? Oh it's just a 3D Printer or a cutting plotter with a laser instead of a knife. What could probably happen, right?

  • @sturdybutter
    @sturdybutter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +241

    I appreciate the seizure warnings even for small flashes like in this video. Having an epileptic child, little things like this really do help in day to day life when it comes to little things like enjoying TH-cam. Thank you.

  • @Jack-SecITGuy
    @Jack-SecITGuy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Listen here LTT, THIS IS EXCELLENT CONTENT. He didn't just break down the tool, he taught me wide safety concerns when working with lasers. Even if it is in generals, I feel much more informed when looking for a product, what to consider. Can you please do a series with your engineering staff where they walk through purchasing and safety considerations for CnC's, Laser engravers, etchers, etc. Think "Etsy Safety" cause lets be honest, all of us have a side hustle now a days. I've used laser engraver before (low watt), and never considered half of the warnings he gave in this video.

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

    This video was super rad. I love the atmosphere and how educational it was. Good stuff!

    • @reyods
      @reyods 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      This. I really enjoy this type of video. No forced jumping from talking point to talking point in the script or flashy "tiktok"-text on screen.

    • @alicia9290
      @alicia9290 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Very much this. I don't know how much of this was planned/shot/edited before or after the recent break, but... If this *is* representative of future video plans, my interest is piqued. The focus on safety, the pacing, and the tone of the whole thing really made it a nice watch.

  • @Eden21425
    @Eden21425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Tynan is a great host.
    Also its really great that there are seizure warnings, ive never noticed them before, are they new?

    • @baldsohard
      @baldsohard 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      They've used them for a good while now! Very nice that they include them

  • @antoniousai1989
    @antoniousai1989 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    They tested the laser on Linus pre-recording and sculpted him into Tynan

  • @Jamvan001
    @Jamvan001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Love the return to substance over style. No flashy editing, a healthy respect for the subject matter, lots of good information. A video you watch to actually learn something rather than just let play in the background.

  • @3DPrintingNerd
    @3DPrintingNerd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This Short Circuit was FANTASTIC.

    • @tynanstack7924
      @tynanstack7924 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am glad to hear you enjoyed it! The feedback is greatly appreciated!

  • @Keade66
    @Keade66 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love the goofiness of LTT in general, but damn I would love to see more videos with Tynan that are just a tad bit more serious.. Imagine what this man could do with some of the watercooling projects 👏💪

    • @rev_dude
      @rev_dude 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Have you seen his Extreme Tech Upgrade? Man did copper watercooling and made an induction forge, absolute legend.

  • @CraftDPham
    @CraftDPham 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    as the head of the safety committee of my workspace. i thoroughly enjoyed this video. it's complete bliss for me.

  • @rosshalz
    @rosshalz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Oh look Linus has a safety conscious version of himself!

  • @azblurbit
    @azblurbit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    This is probably my favorite ShortCircuits. Super informative, done by someone who seems well educated on the subject, and gives an honest take on the product.

  • @Th0rodin
    @Th0rodin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Really well done on this Tynan! I really love the conclusion and the focus on safety.

  • @MisterSixty
    @MisterSixty 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What a _calm_ Linus would look! And easy on the eyes and ears ☺️!!
    Safety above all else. Would like to see other examples of what the laser can do.
    Thank you for the video!

  • @pablolema4021
    @pablolema4021 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great to see a REAL presentation with respect for safety.

  • @DekanPrime
    @DekanPrime 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tynan and Dan are always so informative in a nice soothing way

    • @ayol1011
      @ayol1011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Dad energy lol

  • @sumitsah4174
    @sumitsah4174 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Linus had a make over

  • @1234barua
    @1234barua 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I like him. He reminds me of my teacher teaching STEM in school. Some comedy, but non nonsense. 👍👍

  • @JamesCoyle95
    @JamesCoyle95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    That pricing is mental... You can get a fully enclosed CO2 laser for that!

    • @chadhowell1328
      @chadhowell1328 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yet ppl will buy this dumb thing for some reason.

    • @DracolegacyOfficial
      @DracolegacyOfficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@chadhowell1328 simply because of cheap entry point not realizing how much more equipment they still need but will justify not having

    • @chadhowell1328
      @chadhowell1328 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@DracolegacyOfficial yep! The more expensive models are more expensive for a reason. Lasers are one place I wouldn’t cheap out

    • @rexsceleratorum1632
      @rexsceleratorum1632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@DracolegacyOfficial This is meant for China or the third world in general where we don't care/obsess about safety. The little shield surrounding the laser is meant to protect against direct reflections, and combined with the glasses, that's considered more than enough.

    • @Deses
      @Deses 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@rexsceleratorum1632 Ah yes, the third world, where human lifes are worthless, am I right?

  • @saladgreens912
    @saladgreens912 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    This video made me realize that I’ve been letting LMG videos play in the background. It feels like it’s been a while since there was a video that was actually worth actively giving my attention to.
    Really glad we are going back to quality videos.

    • @stellarproductions8888
      @stellarproductions8888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      IKR? I am really loving the new quality video's like this, no more of that cheap garbage that they were spitting out just to maintain an unrealistic 25 video quantity every week BS. This is the quality we deserve if they want to keep us as viewers. I really loved this segment, and Tynan deserves to be in more video's IMHO!

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      back to??? you must be new here cos even Linus has said they have always been shovelled out

  • @Appl_Jax
    @Appl_Jax 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:15 damn, wasn't expecting you guys to be firing M1's in this vid. Bringing back the flashbacks.

  • @mindgamesnl
    @mindgamesnl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    BY FAR the best shortcircuit yet! absolutely loved this one.
    He's such a great host and knows what he's talking about

  • @rattslayer
    @rattslayer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Loved the follow up, and love the breakdown on how unsafe it is

  • @fhs7838
    @fhs7838 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the greatest shortcircuit videos. Very detailed about pros and cons (instead of YOLO it).

  • @tobiasolsson1593
    @tobiasolsson1593 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent to see proper respect for the tools. Very info heavy and the future fore shortcircuit i hope.

  • @kakaroto5045
    @kakaroto5045 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This should be it’s own category like
    lo fi this should be called lo fi asmr review so calm

  • @Chefbigpp
    @Chefbigpp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Linus bigger brother Linos

  • @tristanxxxx
    @tristanxxxx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video that taught me a lot. I was hanging on every word. I'm not into every single video Short Circuit puts out, but this one was worth my time.

  • @alexelectricx
    @alexelectricx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This guy needs to host more videos!!

  • @TheJunnutin
    @TheJunnutin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Looks like Linus, is calm and collected like Dan

  • @dreadafk
    @dreadafk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was a very informative and chill vid. Loved it.

    • @evilleader1991
      @evilleader1991 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No screaming Linus is always welcome

  • @tellingyoustories
    @tellingyoustories 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Would love to hear your recommendation for a safe beginner laser. I've used an old omtech laser before, but looking for something for use at my home that is safe but not wildly expensive.

    • @da3dsoul
      @da3dsoul 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've heard good things about Cricut desktop lasers. AIO system so those worries mentioned are lessened. I would still vent it out a window or run it in an open garage

    • @tellingyoustories
      @tellingyoustories 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@da3dsoul thanks! Definitely a good option, though I'm not a fan of their proprietary software.

    • @da3dsoul
      @da3dsoul 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tellingyoustories yeah it's pretty common for maker equipment to either be very DIY (not a simple package) or maliciously proprietary

  • @sportsfamily77
    @sportsfamily77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like Tynan as a host, his speech tempo is just the right speed and very easy to listen to.

  • @Zeldur
    @Zeldur 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok, this is probably the best laser video I've watched so far. This with Maker Muse's video on what you should and shouldn't use on a laser make for a great pair. Thank you for making an in depth video on how to use a laser properly. It is interesting that with all of those features, the Glowforge ends up being a better value and with a better enclosure. Not sure about their fire suppression system though. I don't know if this video has been in the works for a while, but I'm glad it's out now after the controversy. This is a great direction to go for discussing potentially very dangerous tools that aren't obviously dangerous to some people (versus something like a table saw where anyone knows to stay away from it).

    • @gmillerjr
      @gmillerjr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d have to disagree. I felt like he just opened the box one day and decided to do the video. It looks almost like no research was done and he did not have a good grasp of understanding the basics of the machine. For instance positioning is 101 and spelled out in the software when you go to process it. There was nothing in depth to this. Safety is important and I’d never fault anyone to go above and beyond what they need, but the shields and glasses are rated for safe use with these. They’re made for reflective or stray beams. If you have someone pointing the laser directly at your eyes then there’s something else wrong.

  • @skyhigh24
    @skyhigh24 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    we use Lasers on my Workplace and i cant stress enough how bad of an idea it is, to use them without an enclosure.
    id go further and say that the Enclosure they provide is way to cheap to trust it 100%.
    if id need to have a Laser at home, id be using Webcams as "Windows" and would built the Enclosure without any physical windows.
    Also the Enclosure shoud have a Detection if the Panel is open. and if it is, it should cut power to the LaserHead
    And requiring to press a button INSIDE of the Enclosure, so you have to start the Laser without the Enclosure closed is Highly Dangerous and Dumb...
    Nice ShortCircuit and all of your concerns are 100% the same as mine

    • @chadhowell1328
      @chadhowell1328 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree that these “cheap” lasers just aren’t worth it in the end and are shockingly dangerous to the end user. Ppl just want to be cheap and ignore the safety aspects of these things in order achieve said cheapness.

    • @davidskidmore3442
      @davidskidmore3442 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The level of electronics/electrical skill required to re-wire that button to the outside of the enclosure is pretty low, but again with the 'why is this even sold this way?'

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@davidskidmore3442 On most of them its literally just unscrewing the panel and moving it outside your enclosure rather than on the frame, the wires are generally long enough.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It nice seeing pro laser users with teh same plan as me. Engineering technician but not had a laser before, got a cheap 5.5W output and the plan is to build it into my 1T racking with full steel panels and a webcam, no windows. Thinking about fireplace seals for where the panels meet.

    • @skyhigh24
      @skyhigh24 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mycosys youre right. its not RocketScience to move a Button.
      BUT, ignoring the fact it could be bought without an enclosure, there SHOULD be a Header/Connector for a button wich should be integrated in the enclosure. yeah 200$ is way to cheap for an enclosure which meets all Safety Criteria like i said before. but if somebody buys one for safety reasons, there should be an integrated 10ct Button with a long enough cable to just plug in.
      i hate it when Manufacturers cheap out on cent-parts making the end product way more unsafe due to "supposedly safety" where no safety is. to loose sight it doenst need minutes, it needs fractions of a second.
      imaginge someone wants to etch metal, the laserbeam reflect off the surface in the first second while the enclosure is still open to start the process...
      yeah its maybe dark thoughts but theres a Reason LaserEngraver/-Cutters need to match so many certifications in the Industry

  • @De.Pe77
    @De.Pe77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Serious without being dry and very relaxing yet informative. Well done Tynan and team!
    Got sick and tired of all the goofing around from so many others.
    I don’t mind some goofing but so many reviews were just nonchalant and seemed more like a high school project than a review.
    So far Tynan and Dan are absolutely excellent choices as hosts and the script has quality to it.
    Keep it up LMG 👏

  • @Str0ngSad
    @Str0ngSad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For leather, make sure it is vegitanned/naturally tanned. If the leather was quick tanned with chromium, it could be problematic for laser cutting. pretty sure its mainly nasty off gassing but, the laser and the chromium don't interact well.

  • @DarcNoodles
    @DarcNoodles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tynan is easily one of the best presenters at Linus Media since Luke. None of the overly hyped cringy reactions. No silliness for silliness' sake. Just good presentation, information and real, human interaction. 10/10

    • @DizzyBusy
      @DizzyBusy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually liked that silliness. If I want serious stuff, I would read engineering dissertations.
      I'll let my plebeian self out.

    • @DarcNoodles
      @DarcNoodles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DizzyBusy  I don't mind some silliness in balanced amounts, but of late it has been more and more short attention-span grabbing random fluff punctuated by shrill, ear-bleeding squeals, crashes bangs and forced exclamations (that the editors don't level out properly, thus making them literally painful to listen to when they peak)
      Yeah I'm an elder millennial, so a lot of it is just me being old and not vibing with the kids' love for hyper-reactions. I liked the Linus/Luke balance back in the day, and I liked how at first they seemed to keep that with new presenters, before it became balls-to-the-wall content for content's sake. I hope that that will return now that they have had their recent introspection.

  • @DnG-Crafts
    @DnG-Crafts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    for my open frame laser i built a full metal enclosure for it with a window rated for the wavelength of the laser and outside air extraction

  • @lorentzen.montoya
    @lorentzen.montoya 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome vid. Very informative.
    Tynan should do more vids in the future!

  • @Dimondminer11
    @Dimondminer11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks like the lid had two little flaps on the rear flap that are velcro and attach to the sides on the exterior to prevent it from being floppy like you showed in the video.

  • @jaycrank8163
    @jaycrank8163 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for taking your time and saying that you did not do the ideal conditions for the lazer. Information given with some recommendations.

  • @DiazThumb
    @DiazThumb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you suggest for an alternative laser system? I'm looking to add this to my home workshop

  • @rev_dude
    @rev_dude 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Achievement get: Have a comment featured on an LMG channel!
    Seriously though, thank you for producing this in depth follow up hosted by someone who knows what they are talking about. I am not faulting Linus, Yvonne, or those who helped put together the video, cheap laser marketing preys on people who want the tech without knowing the important safety considerations; I hope they built an enclosure or replaced that machine.
    The conclusions here are solid: these types of unenclosed, high powered lasers are simply not safe, and really should not be used by people who don't know what they are doing. I like that this xTool system is trying to bring a safer laser system to a lower price point, which is definitely better than the super cheap extruded aluminum AliExpress kits, but it should all be sold as one kit. I still fear someone who doesn't know better thinking they dont need the extra safety equipment and hurting themselves. And the people who do know better are probably looking for a more professional laser system as you alluded to in your video.. I am glad that the lasers I work with are fully enclosed with professional grade fume extraction.
    We only have one set of eyes people, stay safe!

  • @the_undead
    @the_undead 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the blowtorch to light a candle, makes you question why he didn't just use a lighter

  • @collinclark6086
    @collinclark6086 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was very cool to watch. I have operated some large co2 lasers (4kw) as well as a fibre laser (2kw) and this is definitely the easies to use for the hobbyist. I agree with the enclosure argument, since more than a few watts makes for a very dangerous laser.

  • @pedrozaalfredo
    @pedrozaalfredo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Linus 2.0 now with 50% less controversy

  • @JS-hs1ss
    @JS-hs1ss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also, whoever gave LMG the notes on how to properly do Seizure warnings! Thank you! You are a hero.

  • @DarrylAdams
    @DarrylAdams 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tynan: don't buy this dangerous laser product.
    Alan Pan: wow, I made a laser fly swatter with aggressive lack of safety features!

  • @EliteMinerZMC
    @EliteMinerZMC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really good review, I bought a different laser from xtool with enclosure xtool M1 and use those green glasses, will be switching out based on this video to different eye protection.
    The M1 itself does however use orange plastic unlike the Greek if the included eye protection here

  • @pandaman144.
    @pandaman144. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As "monotone" as this is, I absolutely love this video. Its someone that understands the tech and the safety, and I wouldn't be surprised if Tynan insisted that the camera op and anyone else nearby wears the safety goggles

  • @davidzeager262
    @davidzeager262 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I do not want to turn it on and blast in my face." See Tynan, this is where we differ.

  • @thexgamer8240
    @thexgamer8240 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Where is Linus and what have you done to him?
    Also, he looks like if Linus and Luke had a child together.

    • @Jaxv3r
      @Jaxv3r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So what his name Linke or Like or Lunus

    • @halomika4973
      @halomika4973 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Jaxv3rLilnukes

  • @Octagon-514
    @Octagon-514 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me for years: i need a laser tool for my shop
    me after watching this video: oh its actually dangerous, maybe i dont need one

    • @tynanstack7924
      @tynanstack7924 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are some that can be safer when used properly just make sure you do your homework and are aware of what risks exist!

  • @aaronperl
    @aaronperl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have no use for a laser cutter, but I really appreciate learning about it from someone who actually knows what they're doing/talking about

  • @stephena2720
    @stephena2720 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I see Yvonne has finally upgraded!

  • @BrodieFairhall
    @BrodieFairhall 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Say it with me, "If the laser doesn't come fully enclosed, we refuse to review it".

  • @flikflak24
    @flikflak24 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wouldn't even put in a window in my enclosure but use a cheap camera sensor with a cheap lens to the outside with a screen on ( and good thing about the sensor and lens being cheap is that if it break/die from some odd reason its easy to replace) and since it's a camera and a screen there is absolutely no way that all the bad rays gets through to my eyes

  • @danielbeaumont3744
    @danielbeaumont3744 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this is so informative, thank you. I've been looking at this exact machine for a while and I think I'll pass for now, it seems like it needs a LOT of extras just to make it safe

  • @TammyBoy
    @TammyBoy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Linus finally went through puberty

  • @Gertol31
    @Gertol31 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video and Solidworks appears to me to be almost the perfect sponsor for this kind of video.

  • @Jeffdoeswhat
    @Jeffdoeswhat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That’s a great laser. I use it daily as well as many other lasers depending on what i am working on. I do hate the lasers without enclosures. Do prefer Co2 or Fiber.

  • @abudhabikid
    @abudhabikid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    hell yes, give me more Tynan videos

  • @Nightowl80
    @Nightowl80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, really enjoyed it and learned a lot!

  • @p0larb3arzer0s
    @p0larb3arzer0s 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, more like this is what i hope we get with Labs. Educational but still lots of fun

  • @Rohinthas
    @Rohinthas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not a longtime viewer and I can appreciate the fast pace and goof-level of LTT as a form
    Of entertainment but this video is a really good example of the kind of video I appreciate most! People who are majorly into DIY and Maker culture telling me about their particular interest!

  • @olid7947
    @olid7947 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved this super informational and safety conscious Vid!

  • @CrowleyHZT
    @CrowleyHZT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good review. Keep up the good work👋🏻

  • @user-bp8yg3ko1r
    @user-bp8yg3ko1r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need more Tynan please, he's a brilliant host!

  • @MarcSpctr
    @MarcSpctr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I guess the laser got to linus before he could read the warning comments.

  • @callumery119
    @callumery119 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At my secondary school they had a laser cutter. One of those professional ones that was built around a metal enclosure, however looking back, I don't think it ever had a coloured look through, it was just clear.

    • @tynanstack7924
      @tynanstack7924 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was most likely a CO2 laser, the windows for that type can be optically clear as they only need to block infrared radiation since that’s the wavelength of that type of laser.

  • @lemmonsinmyeyes
    @lemmonsinmyeyes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent video, good points on the product, particularly because it is alot more dangerous than most people expect it to be. Good call on the thor labs glasses

  • @ungrave5231
    @ungrave5231 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    actually confused me for a few moments when I wasn't looking too closely at the screen because that was not the voice I was expecting from linus

  • @makedaevilmage
    @makedaevilmage 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Tynan, this was a really interesting and informative video. Kinda sucks that these unsafe products exists, tho it's it's good to be well informed

  • @caspersmith7112
    @caspersmith7112 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very new and informative format, NICE!!!

  • @taj1994
    @taj1994 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More Tynan, please!

  • @Velkanis
    @Velkanis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    short circuit video that aint so short? aight thats cool also heyo tynan! glad to have you on camera again

  • @GregtheMad
    @GregtheMad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I really like that he warns not to buy this product. These seems to be for a market where human live (and eye-sight) is expendable.

    • @Ragnorok64
      @Ragnorok64 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why did you, apparently, make this comment before even watching the video?

    • @rexsceleratorum1632
      @rexsceleratorum1632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be the third world in general

    • @GregtheMad
      @GregtheMad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ragnorok64 Because TH-cam's displayed times are broken.

  • @kaicube5967
    @kaicube5967 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    once again saying thank you for the audio cues with your seizure warnings, it's extremely helpful 🙏

  • @Kyle_McQ
    @Kyle_McQ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Additionally regarding the leather, be aware of the tannage and treatments of the leather. Oil tanned hides will often just burn

  • @galgrunfeld9954
    @galgrunfeld9954 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LMG?
    Amazing.
    Seriously
    Entertaining -
    Really!

  • @robkaminsky9736
    @robkaminsky9736 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most informative vid I’ve seen for a while. Really feel safety was important AND he was being honest and sincere. 10/10

  • @mrstatue.a3087
    @mrstatue.a3087 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got an xtool ad on this video for a food laser engraver. They were filming it with the enclosure open

  • @stevengunter3457
    @stevengunter3457 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like tynan as a host on of tech type tools. he is a great fit for this. also funny guy. an he not missing anything important about the device which is great for someone like me that looking at one of these.

  • @SRC267
    @SRC267 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy should be the real Linus

  • @chasonsnotes
    @chasonsnotes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much money is it all assembled safety and correctly? Does it come with insurance or do you have to buy that separately or can that thing be added to you insurance or can it even be insured to be used by the untrained user?

  • @shepshifter8742
    @shepshifter8742 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One extra safety thing to point out with all that plywood they give you, be very careful when laser cutting plywood as low quality material with a lot of voids will be more prone to fires. Depending on the quality of what they sent it could be a fire hazard right from the get go.

    • @Metal_Maxine
      @Metal_Maxine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've seen things like this in store and the demo projects are inevitably plywood. There is a huge craft market in (overpriced or low quality) laser-cut plywood thingies for making cards and decorations. That's the sort of user these things get aimed at (which is worrying as heck)

  • @Jman116Films
    @Jman116Films 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Back in high school, I had designed a laser cutter based on one of those diode lasers as part of a engineering design competition. This appears to be missing some key safety features required for the laser class (IIRC).

  • @maulerrw
    @maulerrw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 3w blue laser, it will burn through a leaf in about 4 seconds and looks like an infinite lightsaber shooting into the air. 40w is over 13 times as strong. It is so powerful that even a mildly shiny object would reflect enough that it could cause permanent and instant loss of sight. a full reflection of a metal surface or a direct hit would instantly blind you and boil a pocket inside your eyeball.
    it only takes less than 0.1w of laser power to cause potentially permanent eye damage, they absolutely deserve serious respect and maximum safety

  • @e-mail6728
    @e-mail6728 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome! thx for the many warnings,
    you are right, we only have two eyes!

  • @LelouchLamperouge235
    @LelouchLamperouge235 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You pronounced "Průša" much closer to the original Czech way here than in the actual Mark 4 unboxing.

  • @the4utomatik
    @the4utomatik 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bought one of these to test at work, as a hobbyist machine it could be pretty decent. For any semblance of production speeds it is unusable. Also need a well ventilated area and/or a vacuum to pull out fumes.