Coyote Trap Comparison and where to buy traps
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Traps aren't the only thing that you need when you get started trapping, there's a list of them including stakes, dye, lure, and a myriad of other things. The problem is that some places that sell traps sell only that, traps. That can get would be trappers off on the wrong foot if they purchase traps thinking that is all they will need. Hardware stores are a common culprit for this. The best place to get traps and trapping supplies is a trapping supply dealer. Not only will they have everything you need but they have good quality supplies as well. To learn more about trapping visit www.coyotetrappingschool.com.
i use mongomery #3 for coyotes, have been for years except when they quit making them. onidea starting making them again and they are awesome. center swiveled, jaw tips turned up, thick jawed, and i got dogless. really like the info, been trapping for over 30 years and still love to learn new stuff.
That's what makes trapping so fun to me, there is always something to learn. I messed around with some bridger dogless #2s this year. In GA we've got a jaw spread restriction and can't go larger than #2. Those #3s sound jam up though, I like a quality trap
ya i agree mbs are the best trap by far. i use duke #2's and the work fine, but like you said the mbs are the better trap. but for people like me who are just a kid and can by 2 or 3 traps for the peice of a mb they work fine.
i bought a duke a while back hate that thing man its like really hard to set and its like it doesnt wanna open up you gotta set there and play with it and force the dog maybe i just got a bad one idk
Best damn video I have ever seen. Every thing this man said I have had happen to me and lost a lot of game stealing my chickens.
I like the educational value of the video
Very beneficial video, thanks for creating and posting. This is extremely helpful.
thanks for this video. I've been using Duke #2s. it's my first season trappin and I only started around mid January. I'm going to the 550s for sure. .....what is a good bait and lure combo ?
Duke 2s suck might be able to catch the neighbors cat and hold it.
Which trap would be better holding on the offset or just straight?
The new trapper has a lot of gear to buy and a lot of learning to do, that 9 dollar duke is not the best coyote trap on the market. However, It is one of the most affordable, tunable, and versatile traps on the market.
Been using Victor#3 coils for years. Very little modifications, hold anything I get in Nebraska except deer, thankfully!
That's all you can ask, hold what you want and not what you don't!
Once I get my money up I will be up grading for sure I got Duke and Bridger and you can clearly see the difference. Love the CHANNEL man .👍🤘👊
Another great educational video. Thanks for all you do to help trappers be better informed. Would it be possible to do a video where you show a trapper a basic starter set up with the different kinds of traps you would recommend and a cost breakdown?
Then could you provide some options on expanding the set up as a trapper becomes more skilled and wants to move up, again with some cost estimates.
Not everyone who starts trapping is going to be willing to invest $1,000, $2,000, or $5,000 to get a good variety and number of foot holds, conibears, dog proofs, snares, live traps, etc. of all the different types and sizes along with all the anchors, drags, tools, waders, baits, lures, bags, poke and catch poles, fleshing equipment, fur shed equipment, and so forth that a dedicated trapper would have.
Could you show us what items you would purchase if you were starting out and had a budget of no more than $500 then tell us how you would expand it when you got your next $500 to spend? I bet a lot of people would love to see a video like that.
That is a good idea. It can be a sizeable investment for sure, and knowing how much would probably help alot of people plan how they may (or may not) get started. Ill start working on that. Thanks for the idea!
My hardware store sells the MB 550 and all necessary supplies. I'm guessing it depends on the locale of the hardware store.
Joe Lee That's awesome. Most of the hardware stores I've been to in the south don't carry much of anything except maybe a few cheap traps
I always remember that back in the day the 70s, our hardware store carried Oneida Victor .
Most anyone only carries Dukes nowadays
I'll catch more with 24 dukes than you will with 12 mb550 and I can a bottle of the lure with the savings. How many pull out have you had from duke? just sayin
None, cause I don't use them! I also value my time, and the less time I have to spend tinkering with traps is more time I can spend with my family, or out on the trapline
Why in the world people are giving you so much crap about this video is beyond me. Your just trying to show people the difference in how a entry level trap compares to something built better. A lot of comments are pushing 1.5 coils for coyotes and arguing every point. 1.5 coils for coyotes is like taking a north american arms .22 mini revolver to a gunfight. Will it do the job, yes but your gambling quite a bit. People may be wanting to justify using a 1.5 on coyotes because that's what they use and they want to re-assure their decision. Here in the east, if you ran 1.5's on coyotes, your not going to hold very many. I don't care whether it's a Duke, Sleepy Creek, or Bridger. Might as well use a #11 longspring, you'd be better off and you'd hold a lot more. Out west where the coyotes are smaller, you might get away with it. If people want to use a 1.5 on coyotes, it better be laminated, baseplated, and 4 coiled with some stout music wires and the jaws bubble tipped. I have nothing against people who use 1.5's on coyotes, but to me it doesn't make sense when there are TONS of better choices. If your serious about catching and holding coyotes anyway. I have a couple Duke's, and they are a good trap for what little they cost. I run Sleepy Creek #3 longsprings with expanded pans and I run some fully modified Montana #3's and fully modified Montana #2's. Why is that, well for the money they are a LOT of trap. I'm more of a longspring guy simply because they can't be beat for holding power, in my opinion. Are their better traps, yep. I think the 550 is probably the best out of the box coyote trap on the market. You can take them out of the box, degrease 'em and wax 'em and put them right in the ground. Kris likes the 550, and for good reason. I like the concept of the 550 myself, but I like a little bigger trap. Just my preference. Like Kris has said before, you can catch stuff with cheap equipment but anyone serious about catching any game in the long run will benefit themselves if they buy better made equipment. He's not bashing Duke traps. He's just showing new comers what they can expect out of a common hardware/farm store trap and what they can find at a better price and selection of a trap supply dealer. People only hear what they want and they lash out when someone doesn't do stuff their way. Kris isn't at fault for that and it's dumb to bash the video because of how someone watching the video does things. Great video Kris
Thanks DJ. You hit the nail on the head, sure you can catch a coyote with a 1.5 duke but there are alot better options out there. I'm just trying to give people new to trapping an idea of things to look for and why I like certain features. And I think overall there's more people learning than leaving negative comments so I'm gonna keep posting videos.
I try to have my fellow trappers back when they get bashed or hated on. Your definitely helping a lot of people out. In the beginning, it is an information overload when you get started. So many methods and techniques and so many different ways to employ them from a lot of different people and their style of trapping. I'm the only trapper in my family, and I have to say that it was a struggle trying to get the basics down. The internet is a blessing and a curse as far as information. There's a ton of info out there on the internet to teach you how, when, where, and why when it comes to trapping and that's awesome. The bad thing with that, is that there are a lot of videos that are ridiculous from an educational point of view. A lot of mis-information out there. Your one of the channels that puts out real world experience and extremely valid information to help that new comer make that first catch, or the seasoned guy take their trapping to the next level to up their catch. I also like that you trap in the south/east. There's not a whole lot of info out there for the eastern/southern trapper. Again, I agree 110% with you on your opinions of coyote trapping. I watch for notifications that you made a new video. Gotta support ya man. Hope your wearing the fur out
@Coyote Trapping School AND D.J. Taylor: I for one appreciate the tips and advice. As far as the people giving you crap about the vids, SCREW EM!! Y'all just trying to help. If the advice doesn't "fit your need", no harm no foul but don't put it down, is my philosophy. What doesn't "fit" for one, works for others. THANK YOU for the vids, Coyote Trapping School!
i would never advocate a 1.5 any trap for coyote. I use duke 3's and 4's i did buy 6 of the square jaw #2's to give them a shot. I do put some time and effort into the dukes, but I,ll give you that the mb's are just bad ass.
You can't fix stupid!
I like dukes but MB’s are pretty awesome 😎 too
Duke traps are good for there price and with a little bit of Modifing they have plenty of good use..over the years I have quit using coil springs all together and went long spring on all of my trap lines. but duke coil Spring traps have always had plenty of holding power for me you just have to pick the right trap for what animal you are trapping you would not use a mb550 on grizzly bear would you.
do u work for mb or what? IMO, mb traps are over priced. Dukes have been around for along time . Hell I've been using Victor long spring traps that are the best out there.
Everyone has their own preference. I'd rather buy a trap that is ready to use than buy a brand new trap and have to do a bunch of work to it. And I've used plenty of traps, for a long time I used Victor 1 3/4 traps, and they caught and held alot of game, but I'm always looking for a more efficient method and MBs to me are more efficient.
Why not compare to the Duke 650 Pro?
Maybe his store didn't carry those?
Where is the best place to buy the good traps?
Minnesota Trapline Products is a great place
I think your videos are very good! I like #2 Longsprings
Thanks! You're old school with the longsprings, I like it. You trap in a sandy area? Digging a larger trap bed has always kinda deterred me, we have hard red clay
What do you recommend for fox traps ?
For strictly fox, a 1 1/2 or 450 size trap is fine. If there's a chance of catching coyotes, and nowadays most places there is, then you might bump up to a 1 3/4, 2, or 550. I catch plenty of foxes in MB550s without any problem
All I need is traps and anchors for blind sets
Most of the problems you showed with the Duke traps they have changed. Just letting you know
I'll have to look again, I just looked them up recently and hadn't seen much change. They aren't bad traps, in my opinion there are just better options. Still plenty of fur caught every year with Dukes though
Great informative video ! Im a firm believer that you get what you pay for and I want traps that can be passed down to my next generation.
You got it. Traps will last several lifetimes, I've got some that my granddad and his father used. I don't use them but I know I could and they would catch critters.
I know im a lil late to the show but one good reason for cheap traps is those of us trapping strictly public land and theft. Id rather loose $9 than $17.
You're 100% right on that, I'd go cheap on public land for sure
Same. when I see human activity or Hunters around my trap I'll just dig them up and put in my bag safe and sound. There's always another day for trapping.
I agree that mbs are better but I dont have an unlimited budget and that's a hardware store most people I know buy em online way cheaper but my grandpa has all the stuff to modify the dukes and you can make a pretty decent trap out of em that all I use are duke
Any trap is better than no trap!
The new square jaw duke #2s are 4 coil base plated and center swiveled. I put the pawsi trip step down pan on. Just like the mb's. Awesome trap
Good to know, but I don't think I'll ever go back to Duke from MB! Duke's will catch critters though for sure. Its more about the trapper than the trap
Amy Engle I’m using duke 175 4 coiled with lots of mods Lamar jaws bubbble weld jaw tips paws I trip pans with ss dogs added pan stops re welded factory base plates replace chain with 2 machine chain added 3 crunch proof swivels. Never tried them as they were when I bought them but I can tell you with the mods they will hold any coyote here in PA. If I buy any more traps they will be mb550
I bought 1 Duke 1 1/2 to catch coyotes. 1 trap. With no dye, anchors, lures, or anything other than some basic bait. I caught 3 coyotes out of that set in one month. So you can't really say that a single cheap trap won't get you good catches, but it's also true that the better and more numerous your traps, the better you'll do in the long run.
There's no doubt that you can catch game with cheap equipment, but you're right, in the long run a coyote is probably going to be more than that 1 1/2 can hold, whereas a sturdier trap will last longer. What did you use to stake your trap, you said you bought no anchors but you had to use something to hold it down, rebar?
I like your video but you forgot anyone can modify there own traps to be just as good or better than an mb trap have done it for years
You're right and that's what I did when I started trapping but if you can buy them ready to go thats hard to beat
Duke trap is a great company with great people
I got nothing against Duke, I use 1 1/2 dukes for raccoons, but they are cheap traps, just look at the price. In my opinion for serious coyote/predator trappers it takes a lot of modifications to get a Duke trap to perform like other traps.
Kris thanks for sharing this information I am a new trapper and kneed all the help I can get
You bet!
Thank you sir!
Yes sir!
Good information thanks.
WhiteBuffalo46 You bet, thanks for watching
If your going to do a comparison try using the duke #2 off set pro! Come on man!
A duke is a duke, still no comparison to an MB
Duke 1 3/4 will hold a coyote just fine with plenty of paw in the pan. Never had a coyote pull out. I run them all the time. Ill fix whats broken when i stop catching. Mb550s are an excellent trap tho just to high of a price point to run them in numbers
Nothing wrong with Duke's at all, my point is that by the time I night latch the pan, beef up the chain, and put real swivels on the trap I could have bought an MB550 and been trapping. I've got nothing against Duke's but there is a quality difference.
Coyote Trapping School your right mb550 are a great quality trap.. everyone has their own personal preference when it comes to traps. But i look at things a little differently. I look at the simplest most effective way to get it done.. night latching and pan upgrades are not a necessity. Theyre a preference. So in your case i guess after upgrading all your traps its easier to just by something different. I dont nite latch or change pans or switch out chains or any of that. I run simple 1.75 dukes. Its easy, simple, cheap and most importantly gets the job done..
That's the most important thing, getting the job done! My first coyote I ever caught was in a stock #2 Duke. They've been around a long time and there's a reason for that. It is all preference and what you get used to. Ask 10 trappers the best trap and you'll get 10 different answers! Good luck this season
and the center swivel don't help any u want it side run if it's coming off the side the animal don't fight it as hard if it's center swivel the can pull out easy
i been trapping 23 years and that's what I find to be true and Matt Jones says the same thing
I don't think the location of the swivel affects the animal pulling out, that's more a function of how well the animal is caught. But a center swiveled trap is less likely for the animal's foot to slide in the trap, which is easier on the animal, that's the point I wanted to get across with the center swivel.
Had to use a rock to beat one of two duke traps I have on my line just to get it in a position so I could reset it after catching a bobcat> Haha yes a bobact. The animal that is easier on traps then any other furbearer haha. Bridgers are the same price and amd have always been a better trap especially now since Minnesota Brand bought them out. But no trap beats the MB550.
you're right about MBs. I tried some Bridgers last year and didn't have any complaints with them, if I were trapping public land that probably would be my trap of choice
a 1.75 duke will catch and hold any coyote, yes you might need to hammer the dog flat after a catch so what, big deal. i drive a oldsmobile to work, yes a rolls royce would be better but i,m a working man. same with traps, you buy what you can afford ! caught forty seven yodel dogs last season not too shabby for a farm boy .
A bike will get you to work too but a car is a better option. Absolutely buy what you can afford but there is no debating some traps are better than others
you cant go rong with American made period. plus duke are inhumane the jaws a like razorblades on a animals foot. plus mbs will hold evrything from a mink to a wolverine.
Duke traps will still work.
Now I'm feeling a little sick to my stomach after buying Bridger cause they told me they were good, wish I'd seen this first, I spent over 600.00 buying trappin stuff. My wife wouldn't be happy if I told her I needed to buy another dozen of different traps. So much information, I'm in overload.
LOL no worries, give the Bridgers a try, there's nothing wrong with them. The good thing about traps is it isn't usually too hard to sell used traps, so you didn't waste your money. Once you get used to the bridgers you could always buy or borrow an MB trap and see what you think.
Bridgers are good traps! I catch loads of yotes with them.. but I also set them where I wouldnt want an mb550 to be stolen
If your gonna complain about duke then dont buy them and then just bash them about, if they werent successful then they wouldnt still be in business
Arkansas Hunting & Outdoors I'm not bashing any traps. I've said before I caught my first coyote in a duke #2 and still use duke dog proof traps and 1 1/2 coilsprings. My point is dukes are cheap traps and there is no comparison in quality between dukes and Minnesota brand traps. I want people to see the difference before bailing off and buying a dozen and realizing there is a better option out there.
Coyote Trapping School yes but like you said CHEAPER not everybody has $200 to buy a dozen MB-550's, I personally can't afford those and 80% of people can't either so please just take in consideration of money next time, but nice video anyways
I appreciate getting the traps you can afford starting out. That's what I did and as I could afford them I bought better traps. For a lot of people time is more valuable than money. When I started I had plenty of time to tinker and adjust traps. Now with a family I don't want to spend a couple hours in the fur shed modifying traps when I can pay a little more and get traps that are ready to go. Everyone has their own preferences and considerations. Good luck out there!
Coyote Trapping School yes money is a huge consideration for a 12 year old jobless boy who can only a buy a few traps here and there
But i don't agree with the offset allowing blood flow to the foot. Offset or not, the animal has full contact of metal on the foot. I cant think of any land animal that has a paw or leg that is a 1/4" or smaller. We are required to use them on #2 sized traps or larger here in Nevada. I use them on all my traps just because I believe the offset allows for the levers to ride up a little higher, giving you more locking power and gives you a better hold. The offset just looks more humane to the non trapping communitee and is the reason some states require them. Haha its like the ribber jaw traps. Worse trap in the world when it comes to saving a paw. Works like a tourniquet. While the most humane trap is the "scariest" looking. Toothed traps are the only traps that allow blood flow and at the same time keeps the paw from twisting which prevents the jaws from cutting the skin. And for those who don't believe that, when they trapped wolves to reintroduce into Yellowstone the wolf advocates pushed for toothed traps to be used because they knew they were the best trap to insure there was no paw damage so the wolves could be released.
That's the first time I've heard a state have a minimum size on land traps! Here we are NOT allowed to use bigger than a #2 trap on land. I've read several rabbit hole threads about the offsets allowing the levers to lock higher, took alot of thinking for me to comprehend what they were talking about. Like you said perception is reality to most folks and the offsets do look more "friendly" to the uneducated
Yep, Nevada has no maximum trap size for land sets. I’ve never seen anyone set something bigger then a #4 dbls set. I’m sure some guys use their 7-1/2 spread beaver traps. I mainly use #2 and #3 for my bobcat sets but will be switching over to all 1.65s this next season. Easier to pack around and just as effective since they are all exposed trap sets.
Yep, Nevada has no maximum trap size for land sets. I’ve never seen anyone set something bigger then a #4 dbls set. I’m sure some guys use their 7-1/2 spread beaver traps. I mainly use #2 and #3 for my bobcat sets but will be switching over to all 1.65s this next season. Easier to pack around and just as effective since they are all exposed trap sets.
Yep, Nevada has no maximum trap size for land sets. I’ve never seen anyone set something bigger then a #4 dbls set. I’m sure some guys use their 7-1/2 spread beaver traps. I mainly use #2 and #3 for my bobcat sets but will be switching over to all 1.65s this next season. Easier to pack around and just as effective since they are all exposed trap sets.
Yep, Nevada has no maximum trap size for land sets. I’ve never seen anyone set something bigger then a #4 dbls set. I’m sure some guys use their 7-1/2 spread beaver traps. I mainly use #2 and #3 for my bobcat sets but will be switching over to all 1.65s this next season. Easier to pack around and just as effective since they are all exposed trap sets.
Duke is the best trap out there I got some I bought wen I was 13 iam 32 now it pisses me off Duke cheap buy Bridger or MBS I put my Duke up agenst them high dollar pises juke u don't need cats jaws or base plate I got 1.5 and 1 3/4 dukes is all u need the 1.5 I got has caught tons yotes and cats so don't believe all the hipe
The Model T is still around too but there's alot better and nicer cars to drive now
dukes are half the price as mb. i dont have 200 dollors to spend on 12 traps.
Well, with the money you saved you could have purchased a spelling book. Guess not!
Go to bass pro
You're making me feel guilty and wasting money from buying duke
Those dukes will catch coyotes, but may take a little tweaking to get them primed. It boils down to time or money. You can make those traps work by putting some time into them or you can pay more for traps that are more ready to use.
ok,andre,have you made it to this one/oh,boohoo,,
i dont have 200 dollars to spend on 12 mb traps
You don't have to buy MB traps, there are plenty of traps out there that will catch coyotes. Many of them will need a little tinkering to be most effective. Its just my opinion that MBs are some of the best traps on the market. If you're looking for a budget trap with minimal tinkering might take a look at the Bridger #2 dogless. I haven't tried them yet but they look like a good trap and the pan comes night latched, which in my opinion is a big plus.
Coyote Trapping School I would but I those aren't legal where I am.
What are the regs? Got a max trap size?
Coyote Trapping School JUST THE MB550 and Duke number 2. And Bridger 1.75.
Thats odd, what state you in?
Go MB or go home....
I'm with ya all the way!
A coyote is not that strong and its not going to get out