One of my favorite things about my retroid pocket 2+ is I can dock it and use it like a switch for my older games. I love it. Definitely getting this when I get the money lol
Latest Dimensity SoC 9300 seems faster or at the same level as latest Snapdragon. SO they can stay with it. But those chips cost in the range of 150-220USD (just SoC). So, they can not be cheap now. In 2-3 years of course will be different story.
MTK chips always have decent benchmarking stats and it gives them the appearance of being as good as an SD chip of equal specs. It's when they put them to real world abuse that we find they're nowhere near Qualcom in quality. MTK is for budget builds.. I think this handheld with a SD 8 gen 3 would be amazing.
@@mackdaddypeypey1 when comparing apples to apples, the RP4 Pro ($199 USD) should be compared with the Odin 2 pro which is $369 USD. And in this case, yes it’s almost a $200 difference.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but in your video you discuss the mini-HDMI out and claim it does 1080; I believe this is slightly incorrect. The HDMI out does 720 out; to get 1080, you need to use the USB-C on the bottom.
Noob question, does that mean that this device can possibly use dual monitors? One with the mini HDMI and the other with the usb-c to HDMI? Not a deal breaker, I must get this.
@@Carcosahead yes, Switch emulation just isn't as well optimized or programmed yet, so-to-speak, for MediaTek processors, as it is for Qualcomm Snapdragon processors of course, but it's coming along, especially for the Dimensity chipsets. MediaTek Dimensity compatibility is something that the Yuzu developers are actively working on.
@@Carcosaheadno dawg you cannot emulate switch smoothly on this. You’re gonna want an Odin 2 pro for that. Switch is famous for eating a ton of memory. Most recommend OVER 8 gbs which this doesn’t have.
Been using the pocket 4 pro for a while now and it’s absolutely the coolest piece of gaming tech I’ve ever had. I’ve always been a handheld gamer with game boy color being my first ever handheld, I even hold the switch in higher regard to other consoles for its portability alone. I just can’t describe how cool it is to have a N64, ps1, ps2 and SNES in my pocket. And once it’s set up it’s mind numblingly easy to add roms. For the price, easy 10/10
@@muhammadfarhan7177 haven’t played any of those titles yet but I have beaten Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Jade Cocoon 2 and put a lot of hours on Godzilla Save the Earth and it ran them all flawlessly. It also runs ps1 and N64 perfectly
I like how the RP3+ was already really really good and even with heavier stuff it at least tries to defend itself as best as it can. Then they announce this for literally almost the exact same price (only 30-ish more for the pro which is not a bad deal in the slightest).
I don’t understand why reviewers keep comparing it to the Odin 2? They all mention the fact that Odin is more powerful but cost more, as if that is the only difference. For me the size of the Odin is the real deal breaker. While it does play NS somewhat reasonably, it comes with the price of almost DOUBLE the weight of the RP4 pro. As someone who chose regular IPhone over the pro version because of 45g weight difference, I find it weird that no one mentions that the Odin weight almost half kg, which is not usable in many scenarios like bed time play. And if you go that route of mentioning the price tag, then why won’t you go directly for the steam deck? The LCD version is only 420€(nice), while the Odin pro(the base version is not available) costs 370€ before shipping. You get more performance and you are already in the realm of un pocketable devices with the Odin, which makes it a bad choice in my eyes. RP4 is not for everyone, but Odin is just a poor middle ground.
@@westlee1626 Pretty great to be honest. it does everything I'd hoped it would. I got EmulationStation up and running and it looks so sleek. I've only really tested PS2, Gamecube and Dreamcast on it and for the most part it runs great. not gonna bother with Switch though since I have an actual Switch for that lol.
i wouldn’t mind seeing pokémon colosseum or monster hunter 3 ultimate running on that thing appreciate all you guys do for the hobby i’m just getting into it :)
I was very close to getting this one. The deal breaker was screen size. I really wanted something closer to a switch size so I coughed up the extea cash and orders an Odin 2. Just a bit bigger screen on the retroid and I would have gone with it.
plus this device hurts ur hand after 30 min of playing its like playing on a skinny smart phone the thicker ordin makes it perfect to hold for long hours
@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude yup, I have big hands and I was worried about that too. The price was the main selling point of the RP4 but playing games in 3:4 aspect on that would just be too small for me to enjoy.
I ordered retroid pocket 4 pro on dec 27. Actually immediately with the grip and the case, unavoidable purchases- really. But then started worrying about the screen and about the green tint. Odin 2 costs about 400€ in holland, retroid with all aforementioned bits and shipping was about 230$. If the screen really realy proves bad/ small i will sell it and splash more on the odin/ steam deck etc. However i am very hopeful
Retroid really has struck a niche no other company has right now. they strike an almost perfect balance of pricing, everything you can emulate and everything not emulation-wise (like by having just having a legit phone, you can do everything else). There are obviously other devices that do specific things significantly better... But none of them have the balance of price. That's the thing. No matter what this little device does wrong, it doesn't sum up to the amount of amazing things it can do for such an incredible low price.
Yeah,one impressive points in retro game console is that sometimes an interesting mixture of hardwares will release a amazing "balanced" gaming experience. Guess you also collected many nice consoles at your home.
The RP4 pro is the perfect balance of performance, size, and cost. The odin 2 mini is the closest comparison, but the extra performance isn't worth almost double the price.
Noticed people complaining this device is lame and to get Odin 2 instead, it's stronger, bigger, more comfortable to hold. Yes those are all true, but rp4 is smaller, more pocketable, and a whole lot cheaper. Odin 2 in range of steam deck, why not get steam deck instead? It's stronger, bigger, more comfortable to hold... By then, why not get a giant gaming desktop? It's stronger, bigger, easier to place instead of moving it around 🤷♂️
It's more about what you're getting for the price with the RP iterations. Not going to come close to Odin but that's fine because it's cheaper. You get what you pay for
I kind of wish that none of these handhelds had micro HDMI output and only had USB-C. Because if you need an adapter or dongle anyway, it might as well just be USB-C because everyone had one of those lying around. I suppose it might not just be as simple as putting a USB-C port that only supports video out (so no data or charging) though, perhaps that would require a more complex / expensive design internally.
I got the original pocket 3. Would love to see them make one with 5.5in screen or so. I think that would address readability and ergonomics, I struggle with the distance from bottom of the device to the analog sticks being too short
I really enjoyed this showcase/first look video. I liked how you used a stock photo of the 16 bit model as a picture frame of sorts for your video capture segment. It wasn't needed, but it was cool and I appreciate the extra attention to detail. As far as games go I'm a sports and driving game fan, especially rally racing. Games I'd like to see tested: · "WRC Rally Evolved" - the magnum opus WRC game from Sony and Evolution Studios - is very hard to run. I've never been able to figure out how to get it to run acceptably on my SD845 phone. It's a legendary game and if it could run here at full speed that would be a huge selling point for me. · "Colin McRae 05" is another very hard to run PS2 game. Even the PSP version is lag city until you disable the sun using block transfer effects in PPSSPP's settings (they've since renamed that option to something I don't remember). If that version is unacceptable to you, 3 and 2004 are fine too. · "Richard Burns Rally" was absolutely amazing. The PC version still has a modding community. In cockpit view the PS2 version will almost run well on my phone until thermal throttling starts. I haven't played it enough yet to figure out if there's a special settings configuration that will work. It should be child's play here though. Maybe. · "Madden 12" for the PS2 is the last non-crappy Madden because for the last five years of PS2 Madden, EA basically just rolled with roster updates to "Madden 07". I'm much more of an "NFL 2K5" guy though. That's what is on my phone. 2K5 runs well on it with a slight underclock. The last time I tried Madden it was not ideal. Granted that was quite a few revisions of Aether ago. It might be fine now. I should reinstall it and see; but, I'm almost out of storage, 64GB yo(!) and there's nothing I want to delete yet. If it didn't run well here then that'd tell me there's no point in trying it on my phone. · "MVP Baseball 2005" is, in a lot of people's opinions, one of the finest baseball sims ever made. The PC version still has a huge modding community. The PS2 version runs on my phone like a slideshow where the clicker is manned by a drunk guy just on the verge of passing out. It's not ideal. If it could run well on this at 1X or better that would be a huge selling point for me.
The only handheld that can touch this and still be somewhat affordable is the Odin 2 Base.. which you def get a good amount of performance boost but is also about $150 more after shipping.
Great video, man. I've been looking for something like this to take with me on back-to-back road trips later this year. I'll be grabbing one for sure now. Answered all my questions.
Just offered one, particularly the watermelon one. Love the fact that it is Android based, for that price. I honestly think it will be used a lot more than my Switch.
Odin 2 pro is what I have. It’s endgame hardware though. Most aren’t gonna want to pay 400$ for a emulation handheld. Even though it doesn’t get better. I love this damn thing!
While I don't plan on picking this up, I'm glad they seem to have listened to a lot of the criticisms of other devices. The Start & Select buttons are in a better spot and the watermelon color is definitely more transparent than on the Flip. For me the screen is just a bit too small which is why I upgraded to an Odin Lite from the RP3. But this is definitely great for people who want a smaller Odin Lite or better and for a lower price. I also love the simplicity of the Retroid Launcher and how easy it is to add box art from Google Images if the scraper doesn't find it. Only problem I've had with it is it seems to name some games wrong. Megaman X, X2 & X3 were all just seen as Megaman X. This seems to happen with games that have numbers at the end of the name. I also wish it wouldn't automatically put the region at the end of the name. But other than that, it's a nice simple experience.
I really hope Retroid can make something at least 6" screen. I am still choosing between Odin Lite and Logitech G Cloud. I mainly just do remote play from my PC. Do you like Odin Lite?
What I would like to see is if more than 1 BT controller can be paired with the device. Really like the video out option, so would make sense to play 2 player games on a big screen. Dont think any of these handheld videos show if thats possible
Well RP3+ does multiple BT controllers. I think I did it once so maybe it's misremembering but basically if it's android chances are you can connect a lot of BT devices.
Is there any chance you can throw in a few of the Netflix games on Android based devices? I don't know if it will work on these devices, or if it will recognize the controller, but since Netflix is throwing games like the older GTAs and more modern indie games it would be interesting to see how these devices handle them.
I’m looking forward to downloading so many retro games. I’m glad they came up with a handheld device that can maintain 60fps. How many games does the retro pocket 4 come with?
Am really interested in this one. Have been waiting on a reasonably priced handheld that I can play my old ps2 games on. Love that it can be connected to a bigger screen. I know movies aren't the main focus, but can Google TV movies be downloaded to this device? I live in an area with very poor internet and if I can also download movies so I can watch them off line later, that would be a huge bonus.
@suhtangwong I've had problems in the past with an Android TV box that wouldn't let me download movies from Google Play where another one would allow it. Have also tried an Android emulator on my laptop that wouldn't allow it. Where we are, you need satellite internet to be able to watch anything. If the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro allows movie downloads from Google, then I'm set as I can download movies while at work. My phone doesn't have the ability to connect to a TV, unfortunately.
After watching 3 reviews of this device from 3 other YT channels I'm REALLY looking forward to A Linux version of this hardware, A $150 Anbernic or Powkiddy device must be right around the corner! Great review of the RP 4 Pro... So uhh... Is anyone gonna review the RP 4 "regular non pro" version?
I hope some day we can get something like this but running a Linux distro that's not Android. Having Android as OS makes me consider these like smartphones with physical inputs rather than emulation consoles. Sadly, it doesn't seem there are PS2 and Vita emulators that are up to the task in non-x86 Linux yet.
Agreed--it's impressive price-to-performance, but for me and I'd presume many others, there's a lot of value in the feeling of a unified, neat system that feels like it was designed for purpose. A unified front-end like the Linux distros and EmulationStation setups we've seen from Anbernic et al. is really important to me, and is the reason that when I bought my dad a retro gaming handheld, I went for an Anbernic that's nowhere near as powerful as something that can be had for not much more money; I wanted him to have something that felt like a purpose-built console, not a clunky, piecemeal-designed phone operating system shoehorned into a game controller. The experience is the thing you're paying for as much as the technology powering it, and until there's something for PS2/ GC as streamlined as SteamOS for this money, I'm not really interested!
Video we've been waiting since the reveal! Amazing review 👏 I would like to point out, the sticks are not like the switch, at least not exactly. They're from the rp flip, much bigger and more range. Can't wait to get mines in hand!
I want to get it, but currently have the RP3+ and if I have the money for it I'll easily get this or save a bit more and get the Odin 2 Pro/Max But still having fun with my RP3+ which is a good purchase for me back in Dec 2022
Another great video, been waiting on your look on this exiting new handheld. A few things I would like to see on a follow up video - Xbox Game Pass streaming and PS5 remote play - N64 and Saturn emulation - Some King of Fighters emulation, I really would love some confirmation from at least one reviewer that "pretzel motion" inputs are easy to pull off on this handheld - What the limits of Yuzu emulation are on this thing Thanks for the great work over the years ETA PRIME
ill tell you boss-man ever since you started having the devices on in the box and taking them out i want to buy everything lol. HAPPY NEW YEAR sorry lil late
I pre-ordered and am very excited, but do you guys think the screen is too small for DS games? I'm going to stick with it but I'm worried it might be hard to see as I'm getting older lol.
I played Castlevania Order of Ecclesia on my RP3+, which has the same screen as the RP4 Pro. It wasn’t a bad experience as I just had one screen active at a time and used hot keys to swap between the DS’s top and bottom. I can see the challenge if a game requires one to look at both screens at the same time. 4.7 inches is not a good size for that…
been waiting for something that can handle PS2, everything else is huge or over priced, this is EXACTLY wehat i have been looking for, espoecially for the price
Maybe a hot take, but I want membranes for R1/L1 too. The PSP and a few controllers have them, and they are awesome. I just find the tact switches are too noisy, especially when playing at night.
Shadow of the Colossus! What settings/hacks can you apply to the rp4p to run SotC at max/consistent fps - be it lowering to 0.5x resolution or shader caching, I wanna know, thanks!
Why? The Steam Deck Emulates everything this does and then some. Even though it's looks pretty great, if I had the cash and didn't mind the size I'd probably get that over this.
Only downside I see is, it's the same small screen as their predecessor... Wish it was at least a 5.5 - 6in screen. But I ordered mines on launch and can't wait!
This thing got a higher Antutu score than my Galaxy S21 for only $200?! Dang, I was thinking on converting my S21 into a dedicated retro handheld once the S24 came out but I might just use it as a trade in for the s24 and get the Retroid instead.
That's a tough choice. On one hand this has higher benchmarks and active cooling. On the other hand, the Galaxy has that glorious AMOLED screen whereas this has a third party iPhone SE2 LCD panel. Another benefit of keeping the Galaxy is having it serving as a backup that's ready to go if you break your current phone.
Doesn't seem so bad for streaming slower or turn based games from a budget PC on 720p Ultra settings, on a good internet connection, ofc. Might be even better than buying a backbone controller for your smartphone
For a strictly streaming device, I think I'd go with the RP4, instead of the 4 Pro. the extra $50 you spend for the Pro doesn't include a wifi upgrade.
Jeez the quick settings look oddly familiar... LOL... Looks like the two branches do talk to each other. Some might not know but Retroid and AYN are the same company, and it's quite apparent with these quick settings.
~I'm of the opinion that the $100 price difference is worth getting Odin2. Some people buy RP every year for the performance jump when you can just get a 8gen2 now for the exra 100 and skip next year RP. They'll probably release the 5th version with a lower or similar performing SoC anyways. You'll save money in the process. Just like those who never got RP3+ or 4 and went straight to the Odin2. $299 vs $350 and much better performing SoC.
can you play special stages from gran turismo 3? Those scenarios are very demanding. Rome too. Cool console and review :D I have the 3+ and it's very good.
My RP4pro came and in 24 hours the R2 Trigger broke down just like many others. The issue is I paid extra money for DHL, now they maybe doing regular shipping for the replacement parts which Im sure is going to take at least another month. (Apparently its holiday now and they are not even responding) Basically this is not a very good customer service approach, as they should have made sure we receive the replacement asap for a device that malfunctions in 24 hours. I would not buy this device unless the issue is resolved and there is respectable customer service.
i think ill be investing in 1 of these i like my anbernics and miyoo mini but i want a high end handheld this year also have the r36s and anbernic RG351V coming later today.
Sadly I picked up a retroid pocket 3 + if only I waited a little longer I would have gotten this because performance and button placement seems incredibly better.
It's either the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro or the Odin 2. Since the RP4 Pro is a $100 cheaper this might be the one to get. I have a cheap R36S for retro gaming but it's pretty limited. Even PSone emulation is spotty.
Plan on picking up RP 4 pro, I got a miyoo mini plus, r36s as well, miyoo can only play up to ps1 so let’s not talk about it, r36s can play some psp games, tried monster hunter it runs quite smooth, Lego Star Wars sometimes lag, and gow is pretty much unplayable
Went with the 16bit US Pro. Finally a $200 one that looks like it is powerful enough. Was thinking about the Odin 2, but couldn’t bring myself to spend that much without it being a pc handheld
I'm sonconfused on this unit. Other reviewers say that it doesn't run GameCube or PS2 very well while some say it runs all of it at 2x resolution. Thinking of cancelling my preorder now.
I think the problem I have with the RP3 dpad is that it isn't good for fighting games. When I was playing Marvel vs. Capcom 2 on PS2, I was dropping shoryuken and hadouken motions fairly often. I never have this problem on the PlayStation dpads
Flip was garbage, and that's from a Retroid veteran. It was a total joke of a design. Now if you mean a total redesign and it's just the 'New Flip' ok sure, but no, abandon that previous iteration, it was awful.
@@cyclonex65if only stock Android could implement split screen somehow. I mean, Google already has their own split tablet so the software feature should be there.
I'm still curious to see the price for the future Ayaneo android device that was announced. It'll be more around the price of an ayn odin at $299 starting though.
Would love to see Game Cube and PS2 emulation on the RP4 regular, NOT the Pro version. Just finished scrolling through like 50 reviews of the Pro and NONE of them were none Pro version reviews. =(
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Finally a handheld for people with no deep pockets
both figuratively and literally lol
no theres not@50086gt
This comment goes 2 ways lol
Not sure what youre saying because there have been tons of good handhelds in this price range AND CHEAPER for years.
Same price as a switch lite isn't it?
I hope Retroid Pocket continues to succeed. I'm also hoping we get a Retroid console with a Snapdragon chip some day.
One of my favorite things about my retroid pocket 2+ is I can dock it and use it like a switch for my older games. I love it. Definitely getting this when I get the money lol
True! Snapdragon chips are very well optimized for gaming!
Latest Dimensity SoC 9300 seems faster or at the same level as latest Snapdragon. SO they can stay with it. But those chips cost in the range of 150-220USD (just SoC). So, they can not be cheap now. In 2-3 years of course will be different story.
MTK chips always have decent benchmarking stats and it gives them the appearance of being as good as an SD chip of equal specs. It's when they put them to real world abuse that we find they're nowhere near Qualcom in quality. MTK is for budget builds..
I think this handheld with a SD 8 gen 3 would be amazing.
@@josephl3602 The chips are fine, they just need to get more support, which only happens when more devices use those chips.
Starting 2024 with a big leap of a handheld performance, LOVE IT!
This is gonna be awkward when you discover the Odin 2 pro….😅
except this ones cheaper xD@@mackdaddypeypey1consider a lite version of it xD
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I think the power it has for 200 dollars is pretty good
@@mobusargentumanema 200$ more? Nah dawg you’re shilling. Relax. It’s 199 vs 299 🤦🏾♂️
@@mackdaddypeypey1 when comparing apples to apples, the RP4 Pro ($199 USD) should be compared with the Odin 2 pro which is $369 USD. And in this case, yes it’s almost a $200 difference.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but in your video you discuss the mini-HDMI out and claim it does 1080; I believe this is slightly incorrect. The HDMI out does 720 out; to get 1080, you need to use the USB-C on the bottom.
This is correct.
Typically ETA
Noob question, does that mean that this device can possibly use dual monitors? One with the mini HDMI and the other with the usb-c to HDMI? Not a deal breaker, I must get this.
The Dimensity 1100 is basically the Dimensity 8020, which is fantastic. I've had phones with both, from Poco & Motorola.
Can you play switch games with it?
@@Carcosahead yes, Switch emulation just isn't as well optimized or programmed yet, so-to-speak, for MediaTek processors, as it is for Qualcomm Snapdragon processors of course, but it's coming along, especially for the Dimensity chipsets. MediaTek Dimensity compatibility is something that the Yuzu developers are actively working on.
@@JustinPennito thanks for your response, I’m confident now to get a RP4Pro
@@Carcosaheadno dawg you cannot emulate switch smoothly on this. You’re gonna want an Odin 2 pro for that. Switch is famous for eating a ton of memory. Most recommend OVER 8 gbs which this doesn’t have.
Been using the pocket 4 pro for a while now and it’s absolutely the coolest piece of gaming tech I’ve ever had. I’ve always been a handheld gamer with game boy color being my first ever handheld, I even hold the switch in higher regard to other consoles for its portability alone. I just can’t describe how cool it is to have a N64, ps1, ps2 and SNES in my pocket. And once it’s set up it’s mind numblingly easy to add roms. For the price, easy 10/10
@@watchtowergaming5285 bro, how the performances for ps2 games? Like god of war, all gta, resident evil 4, call of duty? No lag?
@@muhammadfarhan7177 haven’t played any of those titles yet but I have beaten Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Jade Cocoon 2 and put a lot of hours on Godzilla Save the Earth and it ran them all flawlessly. It also runs ps1 and N64 perfectly
Finally, the Goldilocks Zone of handheld gaming based on size, price, and performance.
I like how the RP3+ was already really really good and even with heavier stuff it at least tries to defend itself as best as it can.
Then they announce this for literally almost the exact same price (only 30-ish more for the pro which is not a bad deal in the slightest).
INCREDIBLE device. Right on the money. Getting one very soon!
My 16 bit US variant just shipped. Exciting times for handhelds young lad.
I don’t understand why reviewers keep comparing it to the Odin 2? They all mention the fact that Odin is more powerful but cost more, as if that is the only difference.
For me the size of the Odin is the real deal breaker. While it does play NS somewhat reasonably, it comes with the price of almost DOUBLE the weight of the RP4 pro. As someone who chose regular IPhone over the pro version because of 45g weight difference, I find it weird that no one mentions that the Odin weight almost half kg, which is not usable in many scenarios like bed time play.
And if you go that route of mentioning the price tag, then why won’t you go directly for the steam deck? The LCD version is only 420€(nice), while the Odin pro(the base version is not available) costs 370€ before shipping. You get more performance and you are already in the realm of un pocketable devices with the Odin, which makes it a bad choice in my eyes.
RP4 is not for everyone, but Odin is just a poor middle ground.
Yes,weight is a issue for some game sets. Do you have some small game console with classical game inserted inside that are also with light weight?
I just ordered this, cannot wait to get started with it.
@@lVl_A_L_B_O_R_O I haven't :( took them like 12 days to even ship the thing. Its actually on its way now though. I'll let you know when it comes.
Arrived today :D
@@GLEclipseGaming how is it?
@@westlee1626 Honestly it's pretty great. I'm still figuring out how it all works but what I've got working has been flawless.
@@westlee1626 Pretty great to be honest. it does everything I'd hoped it would. I got EmulationStation up and running and it looks so sleek. I've only really tested PS2, Gamecube and Dreamcast on it and for the most part it runs great. not gonna bother with Switch though since I have an actual Switch for that lol.
i wouldn’t mind seeing pokémon colosseum or monster hunter 3 ultimate running on that thing appreciate all you guys do for the hobby i’m just getting into it :)
I was very close to getting this one. The deal breaker was screen size. I really wanted something closer to a switch size so I coughed up the extea cash and orders an Odin 2. Just a bit bigger screen on the retroid and I would have gone with it.
plus this device hurts ur hand after 30 min of playing its like playing on a skinny smart phone the thicker ordin makes it perfect to hold for long hours
@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude yup, I have big hands and I was worried about that too. The price was the main selling point of the RP4 but playing games in 3:4 aspect on that would just be too small for me to enjoy.
Funny, exact opposite for me, if I buy a handheld I want a pocketable device not one I need a bag to carry, so I went with this
@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydudesame form factor on switch, if you own one it'll do the same damage...
I ordered retroid pocket 4 pro on dec 27. Actually immediately with the grip and the case, unavoidable purchases- really. But then started worrying about the screen and about the green tint. Odin 2 costs about 400€ in holland, retroid with all aforementioned bits and shipping was about 230$. If the screen really realy proves bad/ small i will sell it and splash more on the odin/ steam deck etc. However i am very hopeful
Retroid really has struck a niche no other company has right now. they strike an almost perfect balance of pricing, everything you can emulate and everything not emulation-wise (like by having just having a legit phone, you can do everything else).
There are obviously other devices that do specific things significantly better... But none of them have the balance of price. That's the thing. No matter what this little device does wrong, it doesn't sum up to the amount of amazing things it can do for such an incredible low price.
Yeah,one impressive points in retro game console is that sometimes an interesting mixture of hardwares will release a amazing "balanced" gaming experience. Guess you also collected many nice consoles at your home.
Finally, I'm been waiting for 4 years for a $200 handheld that can play Dreamcast, PS2 and Gamecube!
+shipping= 300$ and there’s better options for that
which ones do you recommend to look at? I'm new to these handhelds@@mackdaddypeypey1
Mine didn't cost tax or shipping. $238 flat fee for the device, add on controller grips, and travel case.
@@B1GIRONMIKE for an extra 70$ you could’ve gotten an Odin 2 🫢
The RP4 pro is the perfect balance of performance, size, and cost. The odin 2 mini is the closest comparison, but the extra performance isn't worth almost double the price.
The ONLY thing I don’t like is the 4.7 inch screen if it was 6 I would buy it immediately
That's why I would choose the Odin2 over this , as good as it is. I need screen real estate of at least 6"
One of the reasons I also got a Odin 2. More power to play switch and the screen. For $100 more from base units I think it is well worth the money.
@@dplalowski I just bought a rog ally. I was also looking at the Odin because of the battery life but emulating ps3 was something I really wanted.
Noticed people complaining this device is lame and to get Odin 2 instead, it's stronger, bigger, more comfortable to hold. Yes those are all true, but rp4 is smaller, more pocketable, and a whole lot cheaper. Odin 2 in range of steam deck, why not get steam deck instead? It's stronger, bigger, more comfortable to hold... By then, why not get a giant gaming desktop? It's stronger, bigger, easier to place instead of moving it around 🤷♂️
Wow, look at those benchmarks! Glad I didn't waste my money on the RP3+.
Would love to know this stacks up against the Odin 2 variants!
Pretty sure the processor on the Odin is more powerful
Odin 2 is top of the food chain currently. Not counting all those expensive "PC handhelds" on X86 architecture.
It's more about what you're getting for the price with the RP iterations. Not going to come close to Odin but that's fine because it's cheaper. You get what you pay for
@@LuisPerez-5pretty sure 😂😂. It demolishes this poor thing. Ps2 runs at 5 ou 6x res.
doesn't even compare
The Dpad is my only caveat. Would be nice to have Genesis style DPad.
Seems awesome. Might have to sell my RP3 and upgrade. The USB-C display output is especially nice.
I kind of wish that none of these handhelds had micro HDMI output and only had USB-C. Because if you need an adapter or dongle anyway, it might as well just be USB-C because everyone had one of those lying around. I suppose it might not just be as simple as putting a USB-C port that only supports video out (so no data or charging) though, perhaps that would require a more complex / expensive design internally.
I got the original pocket 3. Would love to see them make one with 5.5in screen or so. I think that would address readability and ergonomics, I struggle with the distance from bottom of the device to the analog sticks being too short
The official Retroid 3/3+ grip helps a lot with ergonomics, especially using the sticks. I couldn’t use my 3+ without the grip.
This just replaced the Odin lite with the same chip d900 but the pro version has a better cpu/gou and lighter. Still love my lite
I just ordered the odin light...
I really enjoyed this showcase/first look video. I liked how you used a stock photo of the 16 bit model as a picture frame of sorts for your video capture segment. It wasn't needed, but it was cool and I appreciate the extra attention to detail.
As far as games go I'm a sports and driving game fan, especially rally racing. Games I'd like to see tested:
· "WRC Rally Evolved" - the magnum opus WRC game from Sony and Evolution Studios - is very hard to run. I've never been able to figure out how to get it to run acceptably on my SD845 phone. It's a legendary game and if it could run here at full speed that would be a huge selling point for me.
· "Colin McRae 05" is another very hard to run PS2 game. Even the PSP version is lag city until you disable the sun using block transfer effects in PPSSPP's settings (they've since renamed that option to something I don't remember). If that version is unacceptable to you, 3 and 2004 are fine too.
· "Richard Burns Rally" was absolutely amazing. The PC version still has a modding community. In cockpit view the PS2 version will almost run well on my phone until thermal throttling starts. I haven't played it enough yet to figure out if there's a special settings configuration that will work. It should be child's play here though. Maybe.
· "Madden 12" for the PS2 is the last non-crappy Madden because for the last five years of PS2 Madden, EA basically just rolled with roster updates to "Madden 07". I'm much more of an "NFL 2K5" guy though. That's what is on my phone. 2K5 runs well on it with a slight underclock. The last time I tried Madden it was not ideal. Granted that was quite a few revisions of Aether ago. It might be fine now. I should reinstall it and see; but, I'm almost out of storage, 64GB yo(!) and there's nothing I want to delete yet. If it didn't run well here then that'd tell me there's no point in trying it on my phone.
· "MVP Baseball 2005" is, in a lot of people's opinions, one of the finest baseball sims ever made. The PC version still has a huge modding community. The PS2 version runs on my phone like a slideshow where the clicker is manned by a drunk guy just on the verge of passing out. It's not ideal. If it could run well on this at 1X or better that would be a huge selling point for me.
Thanks for this and for getting the red version!!! Wanted to see what is actually looks like....
The only handheld that can touch this and still be somewhat affordable is the Odin 2 Base.. which you def get a good amount of performance boost but is also about $150 more after shipping.
Great video, man. I've been looking for something like this to take with me on back-to-back road trips later this year. I'll be grabbing one for sure now. Answered all my questions.
Just offered one, particularly the watermelon one. Love the fact that it is Android based, for that price. I honestly think it will be used a lot more than my Switch.
Very cool but already got the Odin2. Although I prefer the dpad location here better for retro gameing plus this is much more portable.
Odin 2 pro is what I have. It’s endgame hardware though. Most aren’t gonna want to pay 400$ for a emulation handheld. Even though it doesn’t get better. I love this damn thing!
While I don't plan on picking this up, I'm glad they seem to have listened to a lot of the criticisms of other devices. The Start & Select buttons are in a better spot and the watermelon color is definitely more transparent than on the Flip. For me the screen is just a bit too small which is why I upgraded to an Odin Lite from the RP3. But this is definitely great for people who want a smaller Odin Lite or better and for a lower price.
I also love the simplicity of the Retroid Launcher and how easy it is to add box art from Google Images if the scraper doesn't find it. Only problem I've had with it is it seems to name some games wrong. Megaman X, X2 & X3 were all just seen as Megaman X. This seems to happen with games that have numbers at the end of the name. I also wish it wouldn't automatically put the region at the end of the name. But other than that, it's a nice simple experience.
I really hope Retroid can make something at least 6" screen. I am still choosing between Odin Lite and Logitech G Cloud. I mainly just do remote play from my PC. Do you like Odin Lite?
@@squirtle4519 I love my Odin Lite. I know the Odin 2 is way more powerful, but I don't need that much for what I play.
Who knows, maybe we'll get a Plus version of the RP4P?
What I would like to see is if more than 1 BT controller can be paired with the device. Really like the video out option, so would make sense to play 2 player games on a big screen. Dont think any of these handheld videos show if thats possible
Well RP3+ does multiple BT controllers. I think I did it once so maybe it's misremembering but basically if it's android chances are you can connect a lot of BT devices.
I’ll probably grab one of these once the 5 comes out. This is pretty much what I’m looking for. Did this come with the emulators that you tested on?
Is there any chance you can throw in a few of the Netflix games on Android based devices? I don't know if it will work on these devices, or if it will recognize the controller, but since Netflix is throwing games like the older GTAs and more modern indie games it would be interesting to see how these devices handle them.
I’m looking forward to downloading so many retro games. I’m glad they came up with a handheld device that can maintain 60fps. How many games does the retro pocket 4 come with?
Micro HDMI on this device only does 720p. However it does 1080p USB-C video out.
Fax
Am really interested in this one.
Have been waiting on a reasonably priced handheld that I can play my old ps2 games on.
Love that it can be connected to a bigger screen.
I know movies aren't the main focus, but can Google TV movies be downloaded to this device?
I live in an area with very poor internet and if I can also download movies so I can watch them off line later, that would be a huge bonus.
If you can do that on an android phone you can do it here.
@suhtangwong I've had problems in the past with an Android TV box that wouldn't let me download movies from Google Play where another one would allow it. Have also tried an Android emulator on my laptop that wouldn't allow it.
Where we are, you need satellite internet to be able to watch anything.
If the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro allows movie downloads from Google, then I'm set as I can download movies while at work.
My phone doesn't have the ability to connect to a TV, unfortunately.
After watching 3 reviews of this device from 3 other YT channels I'm REALLY looking forward to A Linux version of this hardware, A $150 Anbernic or Powkiddy device must be right around the corner!
Great review of the RP 4 Pro... So uhh... Is anyone gonna review the RP 4 "regular non pro" version?
Make a comparison video between this and the 2S!!! Is it worth twice the price? We need to know!!!!!!!!!!
if at all possible i would love to see kingdom hearts 2 running on the pocket 4 i haven't seen anyone else test it yet
Taki Udon did one. The PS2 section is last.
I hope some day we can get something like this but running a Linux distro that's not Android. Having Android as OS makes me consider these like smartphones with physical inputs rather than emulation consoles. Sadly, it doesn't seem there are PS2 and Vita emulators that are up to the task in non-x86 Linux yet.
Agreed--it's impressive price-to-performance, but for me and I'd presume many others, there's a lot of value in the feeling of a unified, neat system that feels like it was designed for purpose. A unified front-end like the Linux distros and EmulationStation setups we've seen from Anbernic et al. is really important to me, and is the reason that when I bought my dad a retro gaming handheld, I went for an Anbernic that's nowhere near as powerful as something that can be had for not much more money; I wanted him to have something that felt like a purpose-built console, not a clunky, piecemeal-designed phone operating system shoehorned into a game controller. The experience is the thing you're paying for as much as the technology powering it, and until there's something for PS2/ GC as streamlined as SteamOS for this money, I'm not really interested!
Excellent video, uncle ETA. Any chance of seeing that teardown video of the AceMagic Tank 03 you promised??? Please.
Video we've been waiting since the reveal! Amazing review 👏 I would like to point out, the sticks are not like the switch, at least not exactly. They're from the rp flip, much bigger and more range. Can't wait to get mines in hand!
I want to get it, but currently have the RP3+ and if I have the money for it I'll easily get this or save a bit more and get the Odin 2 Pro/Max
But still having fun with my RP3+ which is a good purchase for me back in Dec 2022
Another great video, been waiting on your look on this exiting new handheld.
A few things I would like to see on a follow up video
- Xbox Game Pass streaming and PS5 remote play
- N64 and Saturn emulation
- Some King of Fighters emulation, I really would love some confirmation from at least one reviewer that "pretzel motion" inputs are easy to pull off on this handheld
- What the limits of Yuzu emulation are on this thing
Thanks for the great work over the years ETA PRIME
I still have my RP2, i cant wait for an upgrade and this looks promising :,)
ill tell you boss-man ever since you started having the devices on in the box and taking them out i want to buy everything lol. HAPPY NEW YEAR sorry lil late
I might be picking one of these up. Looks really cool
I have reteoid pocket 3+ , I will considering buy the pocket 5 pro or 6 pro, this is a bestial change.
I pre-ordered and am very excited, but do you guys think the screen is too small for DS games? I'm going to stick with it but I'm worried it might be hard to see as I'm getting older lol.
I played Castlevania Order of Ecclesia on my RP3+, which has the same screen as the RP4 Pro. It wasn’t a bad experience as I just had one screen active at a time and used hot keys to swap between the DS’s top and bottom. I can see the challenge if a game requires one to look at both screens at the same time. 4.7 inches is not a good size for that…
I want one. Don't need it, but may as well get it.
Add to my collection..
Can you try box86 or something similar to run some older x86 games on ARM? Just so we can see how these faster ARM processors handle Steam
been waiting for something that can handle PS2, everything else is huge or over priced, this is EXACTLY wehat i have been looking for, espoecially for the price
Petition for a viseo guide on using a mini pc with batocera on a CRT tv
Maybe a hot take, but I want membranes for R1/L1 too. The PSP and a few controllers have them, and they are awesome. I just find the tact switches are too noisy, especially when playing at night.
Shadow of the Colossus! What settings/hacks can you apply to the rp4p to run SotC at max/consistent fps - be it lowering to 0.5x resolution or shader caching, I wanna know, thanks!
Other reviewers were disappointed about the screen quality, saying the white looks really yellowish. Have you noticed that?
Looks like a great handheld! How is the remote ps5 play on it ?
I’m so tempted to get this for genshin lol
I have a steam deck lcd version. Thinking of picking up this device for emulation specifically
Why? The Steam Deck Emulates everything this does and then some. Even though it's looks pretty great, if I had the cash and didn't mind the size I'd probably get that over this.
@TheRealAlpha2 Well for me it is more Pocketable than the Steamdeck you are Right about its emulation capabilities tho
@@TheRealAlpha2steam deck don't fit your pockets, heavier, bulkier and more costly. Yes it can do more, but so can a gaming pc
Looks pretty good and amazing review as always, does this support R3/L3 function?
yes
@@toycoma98 good to know, due to most ps and Xbox games use them and I would like to try remote play on it
Only downside I see is, it's the same small screen as their predecessor... Wish it was at least a 5.5 - 6in screen. But I ordered mines on launch and can't wait!
Would love to see Pocket 4 Pro VS Odin 1
Rp4 pro decimates it!
@@suhtangwongno it doesn’t 🤣. Jesus calm down son
Have had my pocket 2 for a long time thinking it might be a good time to upgrade
Man, it seems like exactly what i was looking for.
They should aim to make a 5-inch screen system. Other than that. It's a great psp replacement. :)
This thing got a higher Antutu score than my Galaxy S21 for only $200?! Dang, I was thinking on converting my S21 into a dedicated retro handheld once the S24 came out but I might just use it as a trade in for the s24 and get the Retroid instead.
ur s21 will still be faster in games, if its a snapdragon cpu.
That's a tough choice. On one hand this has higher benchmarks and active cooling. On the other hand, the Galaxy has that glorious AMOLED screen whereas this has a third party iPhone SE2 LCD panel. Another benefit of keeping the Galaxy is having it serving as a backup that's ready to go if you break your current phone.
Doesn't seem so bad for streaming slower or turn based games from a budget PC on 720p Ultra settings, on a good internet connection, ofc. Might be even better than buying a backbone controller for your smartphone
I hope it arrives before the end of this month !
Very informative review! Thanks.
For a strictly streaming device, I think I'd go with the RP4, instead of the 4 Pro. the extra $50 you spend for the Pro doesn't include a wifi upgrade.
I love that lite blue DSI. ❤
can't wait to play shaolin monks on that handheld
ETA Prime I love your videos, could you test the Acer swift go 14 with an m.2 to oculink egpu. Please I'm looking into this
Can you run Kagero Deception? Btw love the red😊
Using an updated ExaGear I can play Fallout 3 in the wasteland on the RP3+ but I’d love to know if you can run more of the game on the RP4Pro?
Nice!! Great review on the RP4 Pro. Thanks for testing out MVC2 dude.
great review ..i luv too have this handheld..
Jeez the quick settings look oddly familiar... LOL... Looks like the two branches do talk to each other. Some might not know but Retroid and AYN are the same company, and it's quite apparent with these quick settings.
~I'm of the opinion that the $100 price difference is worth getting Odin2. Some people buy RP every year for the performance jump when you can just get a 8gen2 now for the exra 100 and skip next year RP. They'll probably release the 5th version with a lower or similar performing SoC anyways. You'll save money in the process. Just like those who never got RP3+ or 4 and went straight to the Odin2. $299 vs $350 and much better performing SoC.
Joey's Retro Handelds just released his review. Was really down on the ps2 emulation.
can you play special stages from gran turismo 3? Those scenarios are very demanding. Rome too. Cool console and review :D I have the 3+ and it's very good.
Perfect emulation and price point
Now they need to make it bigger. Pocket4+ ?
Do you plan to test the upcoming Gameforce ACE too?
My RP4pro came and in 24 hours the R2 Trigger broke down just like many others. The issue is I paid extra money for DHL, now they maybe doing regular shipping for the replacement parts which Im sure is going to take at least another month. (Apparently its holiday now and they are not even responding) Basically this is not a very good customer service approach, as they should have made sure we receive the replacement asap for a device that malfunctions in 24 hours. I would not buy this device unless the issue is resolved and there is respectable customer service.
i think ill be investing in 1 of these i like my anbernics and miyoo mini but i want a high end handheld this year also have the r36s and anbernic RG351V coming later today.
Sadly I picked up a retroid pocket 3 + if only I waited a little longer I would have gotten this because performance and button placement seems incredibly better.
Which is stronger, this or the qled pimax portal? My portal can play Genshin at 60 fps pretty well
Could this play wii or switch games? Also, is the screen a touch screen?
It can play very few titles but it does work. I'm guessing you're new to portable emulators? Yes touch screen.
I really would like to see it run Metal Gear solid if you could. I ordered the RP4pro and just trying to get as much info as possible.
cant wait for my Crystal Clear Version to arrive
It's either the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro or the Odin 2. Since the RP4 Pro is a $100 cheaper this might be the one to get. I have a cheap R36S for retro gaming but it's pretty limited. Even PSone emulation is spotty.
Plan on picking up RP 4 pro, I got a miyoo mini plus, r36s as well, miyoo can only play up to ps1 so let’s not talk about it, r36s can play some psp games, tried monster hunter it runs quite smooth, Lego Star Wars sometimes lag, and gow is pretty much unplayable
Went with the 16bit US Pro. Finally a $200 one that looks like it is powerful enough. Was thinking about the Odin 2, but couldn’t bring myself to spend that much without it being a pc handheld
Same, fax!
Docking capabilities? Charging, usb hub, and video at same time?
I'm sonconfused on this unit. Other reviewers say that it doesn't run GameCube or PS2 very well while some say it runs all of it at 2x resolution. Thinking of cancelling my preorder now.
did u get it ? how is it if so
I think the problem I have with the RP3 dpad is that it isn't good for fighting games. When I was playing Marvel vs. Capcom 2 on PS2, I was dropping shoryuken and hadouken motions fairly often. I never have this problem on the PlayStation dpads
No, I don't need this. I'll just wait for a Flip version of this.
My retroid pocket 3+ and flip collect dust. I'll pass
Flip was garbage, and that's from a Retroid veteran. It was a total joke of a design. Now if you mean a total redesign and it's just the 'New Flip' ok sure, but no, abandon that previous iteration, it was awful.
I just want a ds emultation device and maybe ayaneo ds flip gonna cost 1500😢
@@cyclonex65if only stock Android could implement split screen somehow. I mean, Google already has their own split tablet so the software feature should be there.
@@ESTE_ES_POLLITO_CON_FRENO if you can get your hands on a used surface duo for ds that would be the ultimate.
I'm still curious to see the price for the future Ayaneo android device that was announced. It'll be more around the price of an ayn odin at $299 starting though.
Would love to see Game Cube and PS2 emulation on the RP4 regular, NOT the Pro version.
Just finished scrolling through like 50 reviews of the Pro and NONE of them were none Pro version reviews. =(