2017 Fiat 500X AWD vs Fiat 500 FWD vs Gold Mine Hill Off-Road Mashup Review
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Had to comment before finishing. "Thanks sweetheart" made me laugh enough to spit my food out. Thanks. lol
It's a pity that this Fiat had totally useless tires for this trail. It 'performed' as I was expecting.
I wonder if one of the 4x4 trucks , like a Ram or a Silverado with highway tires on it would have done a whole lot better. Now obviously, they would have had more articulation in the axles, but I'm curious as to what the road tires would have done ( or not done ).
I watch all of your Gold Mine Hill vids and it makes me wonder how my Mazda CX5 would do. I'm a mere mortal driving an SUV on paved roads just so I can get home in the snow. I wish you would test more of the small crossovers on Gold Mine....for us mere mortals that don't drive a 2500 diesel and don't tow 18,000 pounds. Thanks
I bet a little momentum woulda made it work. I’m always rooting for the underdog hehehe. Nice review as always.
Did the 4x2 had the "Traction Plus" feature? Was it "On" ?
Haha, I just watched the FWD version of this video yesterday, and I just saw a link for this and thought TH-cam thought I had never seen it, then I realized it's a new video. Funny how that works!
Roman, a suggestion. 500x vs Jeep Renegade - whichever versions match these two fiats!
Reliability? I'm the proud owner of the same Fiat since 1981. She's never left me on the side of the road, which is more than I can say about some of my winter cars. Plus she's beautiful and so much fun to drive! give the new one a chance.
You're literally comparing two completely different cars separated by over a decade that just happen to have the same name..
like you guys, like Ms Hall! great reviews!
Actually this car is "tougher" looking than "cute" in my opinion.
I always enjoy these videos. However, I will comment that the 500X is meant to be a street car with excellent on the road driving characteristics and traction in the tradition of a European family car. The tuning leans more towards on-road capability, while its cousin, the Renegade is geared more towards off-road driving conditions. While the two vehicles share the same chassis and drivetrain, they are, by intent, meant to perform two different roles in the FCA lineup. For example, the 500X has sharper turn-in than the Renegade, for crisper handling. Directional stability and high-speed driving also have the edge over the Renegade.
It can be argued that what Nathan says about appealing more to the heart than the brain is not really the case. The 500X is not meant to do all the off-roading truck biased SUVS are geared towards, just as those cars can't carve up a mountain road in the Alps. Most crossover owners will never use their car even remotely similar to what was seen in the video, so the flip side of the heart/ brain argument is why suffer with a street car that drives more like a truck? I'd argue that the 500X has demonstrated it has all the capability most crossover shoppers need and that appeals to the brain as well as the heart.
Fiat500USA.com, what nathan meant by more for the heart and not the brain was/is that it limited by its own capabilities and more for/as a toy or dinky than most of its competitors
my wife has a 2013 500 sport and we have had 0 issues with it.i have a 500e for a year and a half and have had one problem - the 120v charger stopped working. we just bought a 500X lounge and are enjoying it so far. YMMV of course.
I own two fiat's love them ......far more reliable than my mini cooper or even my old Audi A3
i love my 2017 AWD 500X😁 Bridgestone Blizzak tires and you rock the snowy Swiss Alps
Was this the Trekking model? If so what differences would the Trekking have?
I want one so bad ! Love it
I like the benchmarking.
How do you turn the traction control off? I have one and there is no botton or configuration option.
I wanted to know too.did you find anything?
They make it in manual?
is goldmine hill part of the Switzerland trail network, cause it sure looks like I have been there when I went on that trail system when I was in boulder
scott choate yes it is
Just for the record, how long is that straight you use for the 0-60 tests?
Not quite long enough.
What really let it down was traction control/AWD sytem which failed to lock the spinning wheels.
Continuity error, the first Fwd car is wearing the Continental Tires off the Awd 18” higher clearance wheel and it doesn’t make it up... then you see the 2nd Awd car wearing what looks like the Nexens with the 17” lower clearance wheel...
I would consider anything over 20 mpg good
"while in teurope, under 35mpg is considered pretty uneconomical" - Nonsense. Auto makers lie a lot more brazenly in Europe in their fuel efficiency estimates. There have been many articles in European press on this showing that some cars get literally HALF of promised mileage.
My cheap, 2006 awd Escape Hybrid gets close to 30mpg in Utah mountains. I got 31.4 driving cross country. Anything under 30 is bad for new cars. Even all gas cars
@@veganpotterthevegan why are you comparing a hybrid vehicle to gas only lol
@@H3YB33ZY my Escape is an 06 dumbass. Plenty of non-hybrid, AWD SUVs do better now. But I don't own them so I didn't mention them.
@@veganpotterthevegan ur the dumbass comparing gas and hybrid vehicle fuel economy dumbfuck. Hybrids are literally designed so you get better gas mileage it’s not rocket science
you guys need to add some echo and sound effects every time you say "Pontiac Aztec" maybe even stand st the top of a mountain with a large staff and cape and yell it with sound effects and cut to that footage every time you need to say Pontiac Aztec
Try timing trucks up gold mine hill to see which is fastest
1.4 gasoline engine is torquier and better suited for light offroiad than the 2.4, even more in Colorado.
Even better the diesel versions.
Let's see the 2019 with the 1.3 try it.
Andre > Emme or Emmy or however you spell her name
To me Andrea seems honest while emme still acts like a goofy wannabe rapper or something.
Considering the Subaru Crosstrek (a benchmark competitor in the segment) is full time AWD and manages to achieve 29mpg combined, the Fiat 500X AWD only pulling off 24mpg is complete rubbish. Giving up 1 or 2 mpg to the competition is forgivable. Lagging behind by 5 mpg is heresy.
www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=38044&id=38183
This 2.4l Multiair engine is dreadful in every car.
Subaru's weak engine makes 148 hp vs 180 hp for the Multiair. Since it takes fuel and air to make horsepower which engine would get less gas mileage...this is a test.
Since when is "who has more power under the hood" the primary driver within this class of cars? As for making horsepower I think we can agree it goes well beyond which motor sucks more air and throws more fuel at it in the requisite proportions. In particular some engines do a dramatically better job of managing parasitic losses than others (roller rockers vs non, more efficient intake/exhaust porting and manifolds, better quality lubricants, more precise fuel injection etc.).
If you want a smallish SUV with decent grunt the 2017 Forester 2.0XT Premium rings in at $30,170 USD MSRP (vs $29465 USD for this Fiat) and puts out 250HP/258lbft. It also manages to do 25mpg combined (vs the Fiat 500X AWD's 24mpg) in spite of its larger size, and 70 more HP. Admittedly the turbo adds significant volumetric efficiency in this case and does require 91 octane. The real world cost difference running premium fuel works out to about $200/year driving 45/55 highway/city for 15000 miles/year as per EPA estimates.
www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=37367&id=38183
In the end by all means purchase whatever vehicle best suits your purposes. Commentary regarding the Fiat 500X AWD's rubbish fuel economy relative to other vehicles in the class is fair play.
bellissima auto
If a company is attempting to sell a vehicle as off road capable, even if it's a soft roader, how about putting some decent tires on the thing from the get go.
Did you call the Renegade manly? lol
Every time these guys take a vehicle up gold mine hill they leave the stupid traction control on. Every time. Traction control does not add traction. It just takes away power you need power to get momentum and push through
Same car in UK with 170 ps 1.4 turbo or 2.0 turbo diesel hits 62 mph (100kmh) in just over 8.5 secs. Why have such a big engine that is so poor in performance and fuel economy???? A Dacia duster here( Might be Renault duster in US and Canada) has a 110hp 1.5 diesel and can break 12 secs to 60. And is about the cheapest 4x4 you can buy new.
And the UK isn't over a mile high in altitude either. Thanks for playing.
@@matthewgaines10 ??? The official figures are not set at 1 mile altitude. It is a genuine question as to why in America the engines are swapped from Euro spec.
Traction control guys. Then try gold mine. I can't stand how you guys keep attempting to climb gold mine in all these SUVs with traction control on. Drives me nuts! And it's totally unfair to the SUVs. They would rock if you'd learn to turn off that gosh dang traction control! Get it right and re test all of the SUVs that didn't make it.
I think if Nathan ate less cheeseburgers he would have made it up stage 2.
these aeent bad had one as a rental but the ride is busy
Even if you have the slowest engine, the guy texting in the Ferrari is still gonna be sitting at the crosswalk years after it turns green... numbers and formulas are for scientists to care about, not the jocks and thugs...
This is the world engine. The same 2.4 that's in Mitsubishi crtossovers . The same engine is quieter in the Mitsubishi vehicles I think because of that stupid multi air thing on the fiats and jeeps. Makes it sound loud
26 mpg is pretty crappy considering a countryman S model with far more power pulls off 30 highway mpg pretty easily.
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How is it possible that a 2,4 liter engine with AWD can be so slow? The car isn’t heavy!?!?
Interesting with climbing a mountain, either you can do it with brute force or you can do it with lightness like a mountain goat - guess Fiat Panda Cross would do the job just fine ☑️
We had this as a rental, it was a piece of shit the granny blew
Your granny or someone elses?
The fwd would do better just w tires and a small lift kit lofl
I have that 🚗
THOSE TIRES R ON RAM 3500s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok. Why are you yelling?
Nice cars.
Why did he take that approach on the AWD run? deliberately putting one side in the ditch with a street sprung SUV is asking for that result.
Testing the limits of the car?
@@veganpotterthevegan no shit?
@@ryanjonathanmartin3933 Yeah, that's that I'm saying to the op dummy🤦
@@veganpotterthevegan yes I'm saying that as a response to the op.
You don't know how to drive.. if you have 1 front and 1 rear on the ground it will keep going
Wow never seen car review from such idiot people turned the traction control off. So u can get more power and wheel spin
I love with idiots that can't talk, go off and call other people idiots..
Ugh we miss Emme BUT glad she's on TH-cam doing the Women's Rally's etc.
So glad she's gone.
Let's be honest who buys a Fiat?
I have 1 and love it...BTW I've seen people with car collections you'd only dream of and guess what...There's a FIAT in their driveway as well.
I do, they're pretty much the most reliable European cars. Since I live in Europe, I don't have some gas guzzling Dodge engine and 9-speed can't-drive-box, but the 1.4turbo engine you find in the Abarth 500 mated with a 6-speed manual.
Only issues so far were to do with my after market LPG conversion.
It is even faster than the one using the 2.4 engine.
Dozens of people buy them
Go on then tell us all what you would buy
I miss Emmie!!
I miss Emme. Can we sacrifice Tommy for her? :(
Has to be the worst sounding 4cyl I have ever heard. Wow that thing sounds horrid. The sound reminds of the old Pontiac "Iron Duke" 2.5
Except that the Iron Duke was reliable
Iron Duke lol. Or K car
Sounds fantastic to me...
the Jeep Renegade is far cuter than this damn thing
My 1997 Honda CR-V could beat that XD
what a piece. Do your research these Fiat 500s are at the bottom of reliability ratings and resale is atrocious.
yeah they are absolute garbage
Well, I dunno who's doing all the reviews, but I know my 2015 500 Pop is holding me up well!
@@BikerJim74 don't you like your one
SO SLOW !!!!!!!! Like a car in the 1980's Sad
This car is shit don't ever buy a fiat Chrysler
Yeah, car advice from a child? I prefer people who can actually drive and have owned a few cars...
Pffft! That motor sounds like a blow dryer!