The question I have yet to see answered is: Why was it so important that the band stop playing? Don’t they usually play until pretty much everyone has left? Am I that old that we don’t “play the crowd out” anymore?
These games have had a recent history of violence, which is why there is such a police presence there in the first place. The cops are there to disperse the crowd and make sure there are no fights or vandalism after the game. The band was giving people a reason to stick around on field and in the parking lot, which is where the trouble starts, and exactly what the officers are there to detur. If violence and damage weren't a problem, the officers wouldn't be there in the first place.
@@Deeznuts69290 "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin. He was an abolitionist if that helps you.
@@craigwatkins3569 sounds like BS to me. I live in a subdivision, called Jeffersons woods. Across the street from our subdivision is a place called Poplar Forest, which was owned by Thomas Jefferson. They have really cool slave quarters there. Bars on the windows, the whole 9 yards. And if you really look into it, Thomas was into raping young black girls and that explains why he had mixed slaves on his property. And your boy, Ben Franklin sounds like one of those people who want term limits, but just not on their watch. Check out John Brown if you want to know what a real abolitionist is.
He KNEW that Birmingham City School prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday. "Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired. If he/they felt that the school district's policies pertaining to their properties were unjust, he should have quit and gone looking for a school district that allowed "Fifth Quarters".
I saw the main clip, and keep asking, "why? Why? Why are they bothering him, when he's just doing his job?" Music means so much to me, and the kids too. So I became interested in this story. I am waiting to hear what the excuse was for this action. What in the world is the reason for doing anything to this music director? Any of it. Why? Wasn't it arranged that they were going to do three songs afterwards? So why rush then to finish the song, or stop it Early, and why get crazy on the band and director? Why cut the lights off so quick? I don't understand why any of it happened. Why was there an issue? Bizarre!
The director “DISOBEYED AN ORDER” to stop the music immediately, and so was TASED and jailed. Lucky he wasn’t shot 20 times. THAT WAS A SERIOUS OFFENSE for the school games. Bullshit‼️
A police state is exactly what you described. Always be suspicious about the police when there is no crime until the police shows up and when the crime has no victim.
There was a crime. Trespassing, disturbing the peace then the swearing at the officers, and failing to comply to their orders. If this fool is convicted like he should be he won’t be working around children anymore.
@@Republicanismisadiseasehe's commented on every message posted here. Either he's ignorant or a bot. Either way just a hope to spark conflict or confusion.
Birmingham City School said that it prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday. "Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired.
That band sounded absolutely awesome! My heart goes out to those children who were exposed to such violence as well as the band director, his family and all the others present.
If he acted like an adult the kids wouldn’t have been exposed to any of it. He was in the wrong. He escalated the situation. There were consequences. Maybe that’s a good lesson.
@ericeandco just cow down to authority when it makes zero sense. By forcing the band an director of said band down while they still could not safely exit out of the stands wouldn't get anyone out faster or safer. SMH
Birmingham City School said that it prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday. "Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired.
Not just orders but the actual law. It’s a noise ordinance. I lived directly behind a HS for a couple of years. You better believe that multiple people would be calling the cops if the noise kept going after the game. But it was never necessary. Since the school never broke the law.
@@JustsewJoeJones He displayed courage. A character trait that apparently presents itself as alien to many people in this country today. If nearly 1/3 of the country can elect the biggest coward this nation's ever seen as President, then it should be of no surprise they don't know what courage looks like when it's staring them in the face. @trainboy192 I seriously hope your band director isn't the weak-kneed coward you portray him as. I hope he would be ashamed that you think that of him. Certainly he doesn't bow to unlawful commands from tyrants...BUT if he is that type...i just might make a trip to your local band director for a blowjob, you know... since he just follows orders. Glad this man showed his students how to stand up to tyrants. So sad this garbage behavior has to recycle in current events every few years in Alabama. I've lived in Alabama my entire life and it hurts to say this but things like this aren't uncommon. Never have been. This very moment, in parallel to this story, the supreme court for the SECOND TIME rejected congressional maps drawn by AL Republicans. These maps have been gerrymandered since before the 2020 election and 3 years later they still can't do their job properly. For 4 years now they have failed to do a simple job, not because it's hard, but because they are wicked evil souls always insisting on 2 steps back for every 3 steps forward. This is EXACTLY why Alabama is and remains at the bottom of the barrel of national standards and civil rights. None of this is new. It's just sad and weak. Made worse by the always-present bottom of society clambering over each other to be first in line to carry that flag of injustice, bigotry, prejudice, and racism for the tyrants at the top.
I live right by a high school here in lousiana. Sometimes they practice as early as 6 am. Last weekend, homecoming, they played till 1030 pm. We're just happy the kids are busy, having a great time.
First seen the video, I said it was all about the police officers and security guards ready to leave and get out. In my opinion that is exactly what happened. There is a right way and a wrong way to approach anything in life,, and this was the wrong way just because you ready to leave and you want to get out of there and when you bring up getting double-time pay, you know and understand the real reason
As an educator, I just have to comment. He wasn't respecting authority and should be condemned for showing his awful behavior in front of his students. He is NOT a good example on how to handle yourself with police. He needs to lose his job for sure. Insubordinate actions. Regardless of the agreement of 3 songs, the POLICE were saying WRAP IT UP and he didn't obey the police. Sorry dude. You f-ed around and found out. Good luck with your ridiculous union fighting a battle you shouldn't have created.
It's frightening that you would justify any part of this as proper use of force, as a self proclaimed educator. The fact you give direction to this nation's youth is terrifying, but not unsurprising. Unlawful commands should never be obeyed, and I'm glad at least some of us still have the backbone to stand up to such tyrants. I would ask you to describe in your own words how this use of force was justified, but it's a moot point as their actions were and remain indefensible. His students will learn courage, while yours learn submission and blind obedience. What a sad state of affairs. Again, I find it really hard to believe you actually support the statements you made in your comment, as an educator. Your students deserve better.
the POLICE said stop, he didn't, he got tased. You don't listen to police giving you direction, you will be taken down. @@_FirstLast_ What HE is teaching his students is to carry on even when the POLICE said stop. He didn't RESPECT AUTHORITY. Coming for me, really??? That's the problem with KIDS these days is that they are being hardly raised by ADULTS like you. Let's cry victim in EVERY situation that comes our way in life...such a joke. My students deserve better, you're right. BETTER PARENTING OVERALL.
@_FirstLast_ Yeah I figured out first hand the school system isn't about education. It's about training the future work force to be obedient to the masters and question nothing.
He had his boss, his boss's boss, AND THE POLICE ask him to stop. He didn't. Enough said. Y'all are delusional. He's a grown man who should know right from wrong. He wasn't "doing his job" when he didn't do as TOLD. @@psychobeam99
@@royharper2003him and the other director said they were going to make a video of their performance that's what they were doing the police do not control of that property that is school property and the band directors could be there performing and there was no reason why they shouldn't have been able to do that they did nothing wrong😂
Republicans think they own every thing in the usa. Even people. All the resources all the land. The air. The river streams oceans. Animals. Everything. We need to put a stop to them
He was following school policy, actually. He said in his statement that he coordinated with school officials to play three songs at the end of the game. The cops attacked him for doing his job.
Not my fault!!! Serial victimization. The sad part - one of those screeching children might some day tell a policeman to get out of their face and get shot instead of tased. Good leadership (NOT).
You seem like the kind of fella to think telling a police officer to "suck my d!ck, swallow it down, then turn around and spread cheeks" is illegal, too. You also probably give them your ID whenever they ask because you've been trained to obey rather than stand up for the rights they've conditioned you to abandon. Band director taught those kids courage. Cowards like you and these officers are teaching them fear, ignorance of the law, blind compliance, and forfeiture of civil rights. I like to think his students aren't so helpless or clueless as the dredges of this comment section. After seeing Rump elected in 2016, it's no surprise that 1 in 3 Americans don't know what courage looks like and can't identify it when it's staring them in the face at a press conference.
He has no right to speak out the cops ask him 10 times to stop he told them get the f out f my face he was instigating the whole thing just for this trying to get a payday
@@diannelaws9441Disobeying lawful orders from a peace officer will result in legal consequences in virtually any state in the US. People like you spreading this dumb shit is what empowers band teachers like this to act out and get deservedly tased.
Publicly embarrassing that officer alone isn't near enough, he should be fired and stripped of his pension as well. If you start justly and correctly hitting these fuck up officers in the wallet and bank account maybe they will start coming correct. They also need better training and proper support of course so the incidents like this happen far less or not at all in the first place. That said, once it's come to the point of them overstepping protocol and the law to incorrectly use violent force the repercussions should be severe and there should be no excuses or exceptions, period. Until that's the way it goes across the country the endemic and systemic issues with policing will continue!
Those children shouldn’t have been there. The director put them in harms way. So yes, the cops should be there. The band director should have been the adult but he wasn’t.
first of all, they said there was other videos, other than what was showed,so before you SPEAK see all sides , use your BRAIN and SEEK the TRUTH ALWAYS
There is video of the band director being noncompliant and disrespectful telling the officer to get out of his face several times. He’s not a role model for the students.
I'm so glad the black privilege problem is being addressed in America, time to take accountability for your over played antics. Welcome to the new normal !
Birmingham, Alabama. This is one of the epicenters of police brutality in the USA. No art, culture or human archivement. A place to be avoided whenever possible.
You don't get to act like a petulant child. You don't get to "just finish the song" after you're asked to leave by the superintendent, after you're asked to leave by the police, after you're LAWFULLY ordered to leave by the police, and you sure as hell don't get to swing on officers just because you don't get your way. The other band had 0 issue leaving, but you wanted to act like a child n only have it your way.
Thank you. Finally someone with some common sense. What has happened to our country. People can't be this dumb and eager to be a victim. He was definitely in the wrong.
@@lambsoffaiththroughjesusch7919 victimhood is an easy way to make money, especially when a certain side of the aisle makes identity politics one of their core issues.
@@lambsoffaiththroughjesusch7919 Commonsense is not to create chaos when it in danger the general public at large. The police officw was out of line. This could have had a real tragic ending. The students could have panic and pandemonium could have resulted in this police officer unprofessional cowardly behavior. Alabama might retrain the police officers in how they should conduct and enter act when dealing with a non threatening individual. And boss; there is no place on this earth where the teasing of a treacher who is during his job is acceptable.
He was asked by the superintendent to leave, to the point they had to call the cops, he was asked to leave by the police, he said "get outta my face!" He was then lawfully ordered to leave, he didn't, guess what, after that you're trespassing and you get forced to leave in cuffs. He then swung on an officer forcing the officers hand n getting him get tased. Wtf you talking about "nobody was doing anything wrong"?
As someone who has raised good citizens may I suggest this. "Honey, if a police officer is doing his job and asks you to follow an order, just do it. As you know we have rules to help us all to get along and make our society a better place. You should remember the police are doing a job, at risk of their lives sometimes, to make sure we are all safe and everyone follows the rules" Hope that helps you. Of course the words of this little chat could be simplified to help very young children understand but most children over the age of five should be able to comprehend this message.
“I was just trying to do my job”. Show me where in your job description it says your job is to violate local noise ordinances, and tell the police to “get out of my face”, to police officers trying to enforce the ordinance. This man is a disgrace to black people.
No as a white woman I can say this man, is exactly what black men have gone through in this country. And it bs. Those police officers especially the one who pulled the trigger were wrong for that. And if you don't see a problem here, then you are part of the problem.
This is one of the biggest problems in our country everywhere in every state. These superintendents do nothing the help teachers or students. But they are more willing to cause chaos for them. With disregard for the well being of thier students and the teachers. Those of you saying we have bigger problems. This is definitely one of them. Our schools are falling apart.
Birmingham City School said that it prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday. "Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired.
Let's see now, the police gave him a perfectly lawful order to stop and leave. The guy blatantly ignores them, and then gets hostile with the police. Here's a newsflash for everyone who supports the rabble rouser Mims... When a police officer gives you a lawful order to leave the area, then you obey it, plain and simple. I can guarantee you that if you properly leave, then the odds of any trouble coming about are about as close to zero percent as it can get. Instead, Johnny boy behaves immaturely and impetuously, while resisting arrest, and was rightfully subdued and arrested.
A police state is exactly what you described. Always be suspicious about the police when there is no crime until the police shows up and when the crime has no victim.
Wrong again. Obey a lawful order, act in a civil manner, and don't stir up trouble. You can move your band to another location to play if you so choose. Mims should be sued by the city for the city needing to expend resources to arrest and jail him, along with court costs. @@hectorrodriguez2686
This makes me so upset that this school department thinks the officers are wrong and not the band director! Excuse me, this could have been totally avoided if Mr Nims had just shut it down and left. What came afterward were consequences of his defiance.
Okay these policemen are there to control the crowds not to bully the band directors or the staff staff members were simply playing music after the game and recording it as lots of times our band at our school does we also have police members even though we've never had any incidents at our school because we have a very small school district and our placement are all locals and Everyone likes them and one gets along and our police members and any of our School Employees but not have a problem with each other because once again we're from a very small community tell her that being said these policemen are hired to work these football games and just because they want to go home connected into the rights of forcibly removed the band members because they want to go home what if the game would have gone an extra hour do you think it would have been okay for that copies on out there and start hazing the football coach because he wouldn't get off the field😂😂 I can just stop when you go home he's in a pissy mood and he wanted them to leave he didn't have a right to tell them to leave what band director has every right to be on his home football field at his school to perform as he sees Fit until they are done performing😢 they both could have acted like adults but that being said if this policeman would have waited five minutes that song would have been done
I have the feeling that you were the German who would have told on the Jewish neighbors because the cops told you tell them where are the Jewish people were hiding you know you knew for what was in Morrow you would do it because you have some warped sense of morality😂 morality is what God says what you as a card-carrying member of the Karen Club in her own wisdom says right😂
Mannnnnnn they turn the lights out, get yo asset’s outta here!!! He had a whole band playing while the police told them it’s time to go….. and he didn’t go?!?!?! My goodness it’s REAL problems in this country, this ain’t one of them!!!
what is wrong with these people? DO people not know how to be respectful and follow directions. He was not assaulted he refused police orders kept yelling get out of my face just like thugs do. What a band leader (not) Instead of just doing what was asked and show respect and teach that to the students. He is looking for a pay out
@@joemamma137 That is a lot of cops M.O., besides rape, molestation, human trafficking… just to name a few. But they are given the “OKAY” by the courts . MUCH RESPECT TO THE REAL COPS‼️
The police were wrong. I saw the cam footage and he didn't not swing on them. He was doing his job, this is why we have lost faith in our police. Shame on that superintendent for doing this to this man and to those students. What harm would it have been to just let them finish playing? They sounded amazing btw. Watching from Texas. I'm praying for justice and that who cause this chaos be exposed and fired from that school. They have no place around our youth.
@@ak102986 Yes I did, that was not a threat, or a reason to tase him, those police officers went to far. Plus they tased him when he had hand cuffs on. They ganged up on him making a hostile scene.
Also did you see that when they finished they immediately ganged up on him? They were just pissed they didn't stop playing. They could have said on they are done now, they didn't do that, that assaulted him and restrained him for no reason.
@@sabrinabeavers2396 Threat or not, he was the one who created the hostile scene. You are supposed to comply with officers, even if you think they are wrong/regardless. Did he do that? No. They also told him he was going to be arrested but he still continues. As for the taseing, I would need to hear the officer's reasons why they tased him before making a judgment. Regardless, he created the situation by not complying with the officers.
@@sabrinabeavers2396 I would not call it ganging up on him, officers are trained to support each up, it is called backup. They did not assault him and have a legal right to restrain him for not complying. Explain to me, why it is just on the officers to do everything right or de-escalate the situation? The situation is his fault since once again he did not comply. All he trying to do not is to get away with his bad behaviors. There are numerous videos on youtube showing people thinking they are above the law or do not have to comply/obey officers.
Whether he was told 3 songs or not, when the other band stopped he should have stopped to. Let the school get after him for not doing his 3 songs because he followed police directions. But no he kept telling them to get out of his face. He should have taught the children respect by following police orders. To keep playing against all commands, is teaching children to be defiant.
@@AceMoonshot if they had agreed to 3 songs each and the other band shut down before the 3 songs as the lawyer stated, it should have signaled him to shut down.
@@diacrawford5587 They alternate. So the away team would stop and the home team then starts. That is the tradition. So the away team stopping would be exactly what the home team would use as their cue to start.
Why didn't he just let them arrest him? This is ridiculous! Police tell you are under arrest and being cuffed,you comply! Less charges no fuss no muss! He was wrong! I was in the marching band in high school and I can't imagine my Band leader doing anything like this. He is a disgrace! He deserved what he got!
@@sarashepard7504 uhm. Because Mims ASKED to be tased. He ASKED to be brought to the ground. All he had to do was stop his students from playing and left the stadium. MIMS escalated the situation with TWO THUMBS UP. He escalated the situation with not complying. Basically, he thought he could George Floyd his way to $$$$.
When a cop tells you to do something do it. Don't fight back then sue the brakes out of cop. The moment you start fighting is when you loose your case. I saw the video go see for yourself before you listen to mainstream media.
This could have turned out so badly. When the police turned off light it could have caused a panic among the students, someone could have been hurt or killed. There were others across the field, not just this band. These police over stepped themselves, no reason to ras this man. Police are way too fast to do bodily harm to some people. When he was asked to stop,the band leader should have stopped. Yhis incident should never have happened.
The game was over and all these people should have been on their way home. You can’t just be on a field public or private because you feel like it. He was wrong. Then he escalated the situation. As a parent I would take my kid out of any school that would employ that fool. They have enough examples of poor character and bad judgment.
Everybody got their own opinions and a lot of them are just that opinions. The fact to the matter is it should have never went that far. The cops always take everything to tge extreme and this is what they did. They turn out the lights so that noone would've seen their dirty deeds being done.
Nonsense. The police gave him every opportunity to comply, but he rudely told them to go jump in a lake (figuratively speaking) and disobeyed a lawful order. The arrest is justified, as is the use of non-lethal force.
To all those people asking why he just couldn’t do what he was told - is that what you *really* think we’re all here for? Doing Master’s bidding? Are we independent Americans or are we property of the State? Are we to follow every order, bow and scrape, inject foreign substances into our bodies, lie about our perceptions, not even question why? This is so much bigger than just some HS band teacher. This is the question we’re fighting on ALL fronts right now. Black and white, rich and poor, left and right, man and woman, every last one of us are affected by this. Do we want an authoritarian or libertarian society? Do we want to be the slave or master of our lives? And we better hurry up and decide because it’s only going to get uglier if we don’t.
Yea, we all stop following all lawful orders, that sounds smart you mental giant. You know what happens after these football games, and why the school and superintendent wants people to disperse? Get a clue.
This could have also been avoided if dude stopped playing and pursued the matter with the authorities. Good example teaching kids how to handle conflict responsibly. I'm sick of this garbage.
How about do what law abiding citizens do obey the officers commands let the officer do what the officer intends to do. The fight begins and ends in Court then if the officer broke the law the officer will face disciplinary action. If you resist arrest you allow the officer to use what ever force is deemed necessary to stop you from resisting!
@@diannelaws9441 Don't even bother with this person. They are unaware of qualified immunity, for starters. Not to mention proper use of force and escalation/de-escalation techniques . Next thing they'll say is "just comply" or "you have to do whatever law enforcement officers tell you to do." Dude's confident in his ignorance, he's using exclamation points.
My 8 year old is holding a press conference at 3:00 pm. She was told to stop playing her flute, but thinks she doesn’t have to do what her mom and say. She feels like a criminal after being forced to stop.
I must say that they asked him so many times to STOP playing... They told him that it was over.... My main concern was what kind of leadership is it for the kids to teach them about following directions.... I can't side with him in this situation... It didn't have to happen...
Grown adults act like children. The band director teacher had every right to play as long as they wanted WTH is the big deal. The police need to go after real criminals and leave law abiding citizens alone. This is a school band on schools property.WTH the police going after a band are the police crazy stupid or what man how silly this looks for the police. 😂😂😂😂😂 its a joke right 😂😂😂😂
Birmingham City School said that it prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday. "Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired.
@@deli9247why do you people always lie about what the use of force was used for? You do know no one buys your lies, right? Taser for resisting arrest, more on
W.T.F. “ you can’t work in bama without getting into a fight on “ (river boat) the children 👦🏽 can’t play sports in school without being harassed and called out their names “ now the band can’t play and certain people can’t voice their opinions to police 👮♀️ without being tased “ are we sure this is 2023 when they’re still allowed to do these kinds of things and get away with it without consequences or repercussions ? Time’s way out for the B.S ! Things must change! HOLLA 🤙🏿 !
In the South it is commonplace for high school bands to continue playing after the game. The other band was playing also. The police escalated a situation and turned it violent, in front of children and families! Mr. Nims was allowing his students to finish their scheduled song. Mr. Mims was in the right. The more you know...
I'm sure Deputy Fife was in fear for his worthless life from all that threatening music, so he HAD to whip out his taser. Yes, we need to welcome the boot on our neck, so we enjoy the police-state you so fervently desire.
I just want everyone to remember how some people handle personal emotions. The band director was doing his job in front of children and he was tased and treated horribly. The students will probably never have respect for law enforcement.
The band director was disobeying a lawful order. He was rightfully subdued and arrested. The students should learn from this, that when you behave as impetuously as Johnny Mims did, then you'll be seeking trouble. Those who seek trouble will find it.
That band director set a terrible example in front of his kids. Disrespect of authority is never a good thing. He was asked to do something that was not hard to do. Stop playing. But instead he chose to ignore the police who have the right to enforce the law. Just another self-absorbed, entitled black man that thinks the law no longer applies to him. BLM has made things worse because they believe they are now above the law. They are not. He should go to jail for assaulting the officers. He got what he deserved and I have absolutely no sympathy for that obnoxious punk at all.
The school already responded and said that was not allowed at THEIR SCHOOL. Not all schools have the same rules. They were not at their home stadium so they shouldn’t have assumed they could stay as they did ESPECIALLY after being asked to stop playing and leave. Forget school rules and office asked him to.
He lead the band to play beyond athletic hours, beyond school district hours, and in the dark, endangering the safety of the students and his safety. Does he not understand what he’s responsible for?
yes, and for the safely of all, why not just let him finish the last song, as they were, and let everyone go on their way? this yet another overreaction by johnny law who knows about how to interact with people and/or de-escalate a situation.
You do know that the only reason there is a police presence there is because there is a history of violence after the games that the school can't control. That officer had a job to keep everyone safe by dispersing the crowd, which was meandering due to the bands still playing, this just gives opportunity for the trouble they are specifically there to stop. If these kids and parents could control themselves, the police wouldn't have been there in the first place. @@johndoe-ep7qk
@@johndoe-ep7qkI was playing my guitar years ago and wasn’t being too loud. The police showed up because of a noise complaint. If I would of acted like the director then I would of been arrested too.
Law enforcement aren't the only ones who need to set an example. Maybe they are telling the truth and he did not hit an officer but he was clearly under arrest. The kids shouldn't have been brought into it, but they were BY YOU when you resisted. Maybe the arrest was unlawful and the courts drop the resisting charge, but YOU are still the one who decided to resist. The video they released didn't show what happened immediately before the arrest but it definitely showed YOU resisting instead of fighting the arrest in court. YOU most definitely do not deserve your job back.
This is absolutely disgusting what they did to this band director. What was the big deal. There was nothing wrong with staying over and playing music for as long as they wanted WTH. What is wrong with people WTH. This band leader is capable of shutting off the lights. This is just ridiculous and dangerous to shut the lights off. This is a school paid by our tax dollars this educator should be allowed to play music as long as they wanted. This is a outstanding excellent teacher who puts in many hours of his own time. This was just disgusting and disgraceful.
If you are given a lawful order by a certified law enforcement officer, then you must comply. Mims didn't, and instead deliberately caused trouble to stroke his own ego. He was rightfully subdued and arrested. You know I am 100% correct.
@@theokaczynski2794no your 💯 wrong. The police were idiots. This is not Nazi Germany. This will be a law suit and the police department will lose and it's going to cost a few million dollars. Pony up tax payer.😂😂😂😂
When directed to stop playing-instead says get out of my face and directed the children to keep playing-this could have escalated for some of the children in his care to get involved-but I do think the police could of handled it better
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The question I have yet to see answered is: Why was it so important that the band stop playing? Don’t they usually play until pretty much everyone has left? Am I that old that we don’t “play the crowd out” anymore?
The students were not leaving because the band continued to play.
Everyone left and they were told to leave to. It's was well after the game was over.
These games have had a recent history of violence, which is why there is such a police presence there in the first place. The cops are there to disperse the crowd and make sure there are no fights or vandalism after the game. The band was giving people a reason to stick around on field and in the parking lot, which is where the trouble starts, and exactly what the officers are there to detur. If violence and damage weren't a problem, the officers wouldn't be there in the first place.
Sadly, "playing the crowd out" might not be possible anymore, it's a new world of aggression and ego.
It’s a noise ordinance. It’s extremely common for every HS that is in close proximity to a residential neighborhood.
If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Thomas Jefferson
And how many slaves did he own?
@@Deeznuts69290 "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin. He was an abolitionist if that helps you.
@@craigwatkins3569 sounds like BS to me. I live in a subdivision, called Jeffersons woods. Across the street from our subdivision is a place called Poplar Forest, which was owned by Thomas Jefferson. They have really cool slave quarters there. Bars on the windows, the whole 9 yards. And if you really look into it, Thomas was into raping young black girls and that explains why he had mixed slaves on his property. And your boy, Ben Franklin sounds like one of those people who want term limits, but just not on their watch. Check out John Brown if you want to know what a real abolitionist is.
@@Deeznuts69290 second was Benjamin Franklin. Since most of the founding fathers had slaves. I guess that null and voids the constitution.
He KNEW that Birmingham City School prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday.
"Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired. If he/they felt that the school district's policies pertaining to their properties were unjust, he should have quit and gone looking for a school district that allowed "Fifth Quarters".
I saw the main clip, and keep asking, "why? Why? Why are they bothering him, when he's just doing his job?" Music means so much to me, and the kids too. So I became interested in this story.
I am waiting to hear what the excuse was for this action. What in the world is the reason for doing anything to this music director? Any of it. Why? Wasn't it arranged that they were going to do three songs afterwards? So why rush then to finish the song, or stop it Early, and why get crazy on the band and director? Why cut the lights off so quick? I don't understand why any of it happened. Why was there an issue? Bizarre!
He wasn’t doing his job. The game was over. They should have been going home.
The director “DISOBEYED AN ORDER” to stop the music immediately, and so was TASED and jailed. Lucky he wasn’t shot 20 times. THAT WAS A SERIOUS OFFENSE for the school games. Bullshit‼️
You should have left like the officers asked, period, I love music just as much as anyone else, but the law is the law or have we forgotten?
A police state is exactly what you described. Always be suspicious about the police when there is no crime until the police shows up and when the crime has no victim.
There was a crime. Trespassing, disturbing the peace then the swearing at the officers, and failing to comply to their orders. If this fool is convicted like he should be he won’t be working around children anymore.
@@ericeandco. Sure, Jethro. So you will be OK with cops treating white men that way, right?
@@Republicanismisadiseasehe's commented on every message posted here. Either he's ignorant or a bot. Either way just a hope to spark conflict or confusion.
Birmingham City School said that it prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday.
"Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired.
That band sounded absolutely awesome! My heart goes out to those children who were exposed to such violence as well as the band director, his family and all the others present.
If he acted like an adult the kids wouldn’t have been exposed to any of it. He was in the wrong. He escalated the situation. There were consequences. Maybe that’s a good lesson.
@@ericeandco. You were there?
@ericeandco just cow down to authority when it makes zero sense. By forcing the band an director of said band down while they still could not safely exit out of the stands wouldn't get anyone out faster or safer. SMH
He is humbled today but was acting out that night
Birmingham City School said that it prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday.
"Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired.
And as I've noticed they tazed after they cuffed him? How can you swing on someone if your hand cuffed?
Just pure sadism. That's why they recruit stupid bullies. They enjoy hurting people.
He should have complied and cooperated. It's his own fault for getting tasted by resisting lawful arrest.
@@theokaczynski2794 You are wrong.
@@raghailligh1080 I agree their moms should have swallowed.
Our local band director would have followed orders but that’s how we do things.
He made an azz out of himself in front of those kids.
Not just orders but the actual law. It’s a noise ordinance. I lived directly behind a HS for a couple of years. You better believe that multiple people would be calling the cops if the noise kept going after the game.
But it was never necessary. Since the school never broke the law.
@@JustsewJoeJones He displayed courage. A character trait that apparently presents itself as alien to many people in this country today. If nearly 1/3 of the country can elect the biggest coward this nation's ever seen as President, then it should be of no surprise they don't know what courage looks like when it's staring them in the face.
@trainboy192 I seriously hope your band director isn't the weak-kneed coward you portray him as. I hope he would be ashamed that you think that of him. Certainly he doesn't bow to unlawful commands from tyrants...BUT if he is that type...i just might make a trip to your local band director for a blowjob, you know... since he just follows orders.
Glad this man showed his students how to stand up to tyrants. So sad this garbage behavior has to recycle in current events every few years in Alabama. I've lived in Alabama my entire life and it hurts to say this but things like this aren't uncommon. Never have been.
This very moment, in parallel to this story, the supreme court for the SECOND TIME rejected congressional maps drawn by AL Republicans. These maps have been gerrymandered since before the 2020 election and 3 years later they still can't do their job properly. For 4 years now they have failed to do a simple job, not because it's hard, but because they are wicked evil souls always insisting on 2 steps back for every 3 steps forward.
This is EXACTLY why Alabama is and remains at the bottom of the barrel of national standards and civil rights. None of this is new. It's just sad and weak. Made worse by the always-present bottom of society clambering over each other to be first in line to carry that flag of injustice, bigotry, prejudice, and racism for the tyrants at the top.
I live right by a high school here in lousiana. Sometimes they practice as early as 6 am. Last weekend, homecoming, they played till 1030 pm. We're just happy the kids are busy, having a great time.
More than anything who called the cops? Suspicious! It's common for the band to play while the crowd leaves in this area.
Probably many of the neighborhoods who expect the loud noise to end when the game does.
First seen the video, I said it was all about the police officers and security guards ready to leave and get out. In my opinion that is exactly what happened. There is a right way and a wrong way to approach anything in life,, and this was the wrong way just because you ready to leave and you want to get out of there and when you bring up getting double-time pay, you know and understand the real reason
Why escalate the situation by tasing after the band leader told the band to stop after the last song?
because black people can't just do whatever tf they want and still have a functioning society . Ride the lightning jemarcus !
Why cause a scene and resist arrest? Why not comply in the first place?
As an educator, I just have to comment. He wasn't respecting authority and should be condemned for showing his awful behavior in front of his students. He is NOT a good example on how to handle yourself with police. He needs to lose his job for sure. Insubordinate actions. Regardless of the agreement of 3 songs, the POLICE were saying WRAP IT UP and he didn't obey the police. Sorry dude. You f-ed around and found out. Good luck with your ridiculous union fighting a battle you shouldn't have created.
It's frightening that you would justify any part of this as proper use of force, as a self proclaimed educator. The fact you give direction to this nation's youth is terrifying, but not unsurprising.
Unlawful commands should never be obeyed, and I'm glad at least some of us still have the backbone to stand up to such tyrants.
I would ask you to describe in your own words how this use of force was justified, but it's a moot point as their actions were and remain indefensible.
His students will learn courage, while yours learn submission and blind obedience. What a sad state of affairs. Again, I find it really hard to believe you actually support the statements you made in your comment, as an educator.
Your students deserve better.
the POLICE said stop, he didn't, he got tased. You don't listen to police giving you direction, you will be taken down. @@_FirstLast_ What HE is teaching his students is to carry on even when the POLICE said stop. He didn't RESPECT AUTHORITY. Coming for me, really??? That's the problem with KIDS these days is that they are being hardly raised by ADULTS like you. Let's cry victim in EVERY situation that comes our way in life...such a joke. My students deserve better, you're right. BETTER PARENTING OVERALL.
@@_FirstLast_it was a lawful order, stfu man.
@_FirstLast_ Yeah I figured out first hand the school system isn't about education. It's about training the future work force to be obedient to the masters and question nothing.
He had his boss, his boss's boss, AND THE POLICE ask him to stop. He didn't. Enough said. Y'all are delusional. He's a grown man who should know right from wrong. He wasn't "doing his job" when he didn't do as TOLD. @@psychobeam99
There was no need for cops to tase that man. Completely unnecessary. Sue them!
Whistling at a white woman
He doesn't deserve a penny, he brought it on himself and is now playing the victim.
@@royharper2003him and the other director said they were going to make a video of their performance that's what they were doing the police do not control of that property that is school property and the band directors could be there performing and there was no reason why they shouldn't have been able to do that they did nothing wrong😂
Republicans think they own every thing in the usa. Even people. All the resources all the land. The air. The river streams oceans. Animals. Everything. We need to put a stop to them
The cops upset the band was fire 🔥
Why didn't he leave in accordance with school policy? Why did he refuse to listen to the officers? The band teacher is a victim of his own ego.
They certainly wouldn't have tazed me if I did the same thing... Use your head.
He was following school policy, actually. He said in his statement that he coordinated with school officials to play three songs at the end of the game. The cops attacked him for doing his job.
Both bands stayed after to play 3 songs. It's common in high school football in the South. If he were white would you still be so judgemental?!
@@svenvaltik5657more on. Yeah, they would. Dipchit
Wow you have bootlicking Stockholm syndrome. Comply yourself into submission.
Not my fault!!! Serial victimization. The sad part - one of those screeching children might some day tell a policeman to get out of their face and get shot instead of tased. Good leadership (NOT).
You seem like the kind of fella to think telling a police officer to "suck my d!ck, swallow it down, then turn around and spread cheeks" is illegal, too. You also probably give them your ID whenever they ask because you've been trained to obey rather than stand up for the rights they've conditioned you to abandon.
Band director taught those kids courage.
Cowards like you and these officers are teaching them fear, ignorance of the law, blind compliance, and forfeiture of civil rights. I like to think his students aren't so helpless or clueless as the dredges of this comment section.
After seeing Rump elected in 2016, it's no surprise that 1 in 3 Americans don't know what courage looks like and can't identify it when it's staring them in the face at a press conference.
He has no right to speak out the cops ask him 10 times to stop he told them get the f out f my face he was instigating the whole thing just for this trying to get a payday
There's no law requiring anyone to obey police on demand. They can ask all they want, he wasn't REQUIRED to obey.
@@diannelaws9441Disobeying lawful orders from a peace officer will result in legal consequences in virtually any state in the US. People like you spreading this dumb shit is what empowers band teachers like this to act out and get deservedly tased.
@@diannelaws9441 If police are giving a lawful order, yes there is law requiring compliance.
@@rustynails8756 that's the point, telling him to stop was NOT a law.
If a police officer gives you a lawful order, then you are REQUIRED to comply. @@diannelaws9441
Entitled black. "Don't you know who I think I am?" My band will do whatever I want. As long as I want. Key word sweetie pie: "AFTER" the game.
No Ben Crump? This must not be a slam dunk. No need to publicly humiliate a public servant though.
Publicly embarrassing that officer alone isn't near enough, he should be fired and stripped of his pension as well. If you start justly and correctly hitting these fuck up officers in the wallet and bank account maybe they will start coming correct. They also need better training and proper support of course so the incidents like this happen far less or not at all in the first place. That said, once it's come to the point of them overstepping protocol and the law to incorrectly use violent force the repercussions should be severe and there should be no excuses or exceptions, period. Until that's the way it goes across the country the endemic and systemic issues with policing will continue!
A little to late to avoid embarrassment lol 🤣
I'm so glad the Birmingham Police Department are policing Bands playing at football games. I feel SO much safer!
Never been to Birmingham huh?
😂
Those children shouldn’t have been there. The director put them in harms way. So yes, the cops should be there. The band director should have been the adult but he wasn’t.
So the officer that tased him was also Black, but they are claiming that he would not have tased a white band director?
Great. Teach kids to resist arrest. That usually ends well.
Use stun gun 3 times and let the court handle the rest lol 🤣
first of all, they said there was other videos, other than what was showed,so before you SPEAK see all sides , use your BRAIN and SEEK the TRUTH ALWAYS
At minimum he should be put on leave. The incident was uncalled for and should have been handled differently. Glad the band director has counsel.
As a parent I’d e glad to dee him convicted for the misdemeanors he committed and fired from his job. That’s no role model for children.
His fault. They even turned the lights of and he kept playing. Hey Bruh... this ain't no TITANIC...
He is lucky they didn’t woop his ass. He deserved everything that happened to him. He should be fired. Fuuuuck him
Should have ended on time.
You put yourself and your students in this position.
This is self inflicted.
I thought he was told to stop playing but didn’t.. so..? Where’s the disconnect? What am I missing?
What LAW required him to OBEY the police? Oh that's right...there ISN'T one!
@@diannelaws9441I hope you try to not listen to police orders and it’s caught on body cam
@@theghostofrethsich2813 cities across this country have paid out millions upon millions to people whose civil rights were violated by police.
@@diannelaws9441Is it possible that you could post a comment that’s actually intelligent?
@@joemamma137 Is it possible that you stop being a bootlicker?
There is video of the band director being noncompliant and disrespectful telling the officer to get out of his face several times. He’s not a role model for the students.
If this was a White band director, this story would have never made it out of the football field.
Well…he probably wouldn’t have continued to violate the noise ordinance.
He was wrong, he was told to stop out of police so they can clear out he kept playing
He should have STOPED when asked to !
We try and teach kids to stop when asked by authorities he is a Horrible role model
Maybe an adult needs to learn to follow instructions. But he is just looking to get paid now.
I'm so glad the black privilege problem is being addressed in America, time to take accountability for your over played antics. Welcome to the new normal !
Birmingham, Alabama. This is one of the epicenters of police brutality in the USA. No art, culture or human archivement. A place to be avoided whenever possible.
Murderham Alabama.. i suggest i20 outta that place asap
You don't get to act like a petulant child. You don't get to "just finish the song" after you're asked to leave by the superintendent, after you're asked to leave by the police, after you're LAWFULLY ordered to leave by the police, and you sure as hell don't get to swing on officers just because you don't get your way.
The other band had 0 issue leaving, but you wanted to act like a child n only have it your way.
Thank you. Finally someone with some common sense. What has happened to our country. People can't be this dumb and eager to be a victim. He was definitely in the wrong.
EXACTLY. He's a fool who needs to lose his job. Acting like a complete idiot in front of his students.
Thank you
@@lambsoffaiththroughjesusch7919 victimhood is an easy way to make money, especially when a certain side of the aisle makes identity politics one of their core issues.
@@lambsoffaiththroughjesusch7919
Commonsense is not to create chaos when it in danger the general public at large.
The police officw was out of line.
This could have had a real tragic ending.
The students could have panic and pandemonium could have resulted in this police officer unprofessional cowardly behavior.
Alabama might retrain the police officers in how they should conduct and enter act when dealing with a non threatening individual.
And boss; there is no place on this earth where the teasing of a treacher who is during his job is acceptable.
is this 12% worth this much country wide trouble?
You ask a wonderful question.
How can you teach children that cops are good when they’ve seen their band teacher get tased. Nobody was doing anything wrong.
Huh? Nothing wrong?
How can you be a leader for kids and NOT follow simple instructions from legal authorities to vacate?
He was asked by the superintendent to leave, to the point they had to call the cops, he was asked to leave by the police, he said "get outta my face!" He was then lawfully ordered to leave, he didn't, guess what, after that you're trespassing and you get forced to leave in cuffs. He then swung on an officer forcing the officers hand n getting him get tased. Wtf you talking about "nobody was doing anything wrong"?
Just because you work with kids doesn't mean you get to act like a petulant child your entire life.
As someone who has raised good citizens may I suggest this. "Honey, if a police officer is doing his job and asks you to follow an order, just do it. As you know we have rules to help us all to get along and make our society a better place. You should remember the police are doing a job, at risk of their lives sometimes, to make sure we are all safe and everyone follows the rules" Hope that helps you. Of course the words of this little chat could be simplified to help very young children understand but most children over the age of five should be able to comprehend this message.
“I was just trying to do my job”.
Show me where in your job description it says your job is to violate local noise ordinances, and tell the police to “get out of my face”, to police officers trying to enforce the ordinance.
This man is a disgrace to black people.
Call it a hunch, but something tells me you aren't the authority on what is or isn't "a disgrace to black people."
No as a white woman I can say this man, is exactly what black men have gone through in this country. And it bs. Those police officers especially the one who pulled the trigger were wrong for that. And if you don't see a problem here, then you are part of the problem.
This is one of the biggest problems in our country everywhere in every state. These superintendents do nothing the help teachers or students. But they are more willing to cause chaos for them. With disregard for the well being of thier students and the teachers. Those of you saying we have bigger problems. This is definitely one of them. Our schools are falling apart.
Birmingham City School said that it prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday.
"Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired.
@@Aeson-np8tr Say what you want, police officers had no right to tase him.
@@sabrinabeavers2396 The law says otherwise.
Let's see now, the police gave him a perfectly lawful order to stop and leave.
The guy blatantly ignores them, and then gets hostile with the police.
Here's a newsflash for everyone who supports the rabble rouser Mims... When a police officer gives you a lawful order to leave the area, then you obey it, plain and simple. I can guarantee you that if you properly leave, then the odds of any trouble coming about are about as close to zero percent as it can get.
Instead, Johnny boy behaves immaturely and impetuously, while resisting arrest, and was rightfully subdued and arrested.
A police state is exactly what you described. Always be suspicious about the police when there is no crime until the police shows up and when the crime has no victim.
Wrong again. Obey a lawful order, act in a civil manner, and don't stir up trouble. You can move your band to another location to play if you so choose.
Mims should be sued by the city for the city needing to expend resources to arrest and jail him, along with court costs.
@@hectorrodriguez2686
This makes me so upset that this school department thinks the officers are wrong and not the band director! Excuse me, this could have been totally avoided if Mr Nims had just shut it down and left. What came afterward were consequences of his defiance.
Children Playing music isnt a crime boot licker
Why did the cops tell him to stop? Do you really believe you have to listen to every ridiculous thing a bully cop says to you?
Okay these policemen are there to control the crowds not to bully the band directors or the staff staff members were simply playing music after the game and recording it as lots of times our band at our school does we also have police members even though we've never had any incidents at our school because we have a very small school district and our placement are all locals and Everyone likes them and one gets along and our police members and any of our School Employees but not have a problem with each other because once again we're from a very small community tell her that being said these policemen are hired to work these football games and just because they want to go home connected into the rights of forcibly removed the band members because they want to go home what if the game would have gone an extra hour do you think it would have been okay for that copies on out there and start hazing the football coach because he wouldn't get off the field😂😂 I can just stop when you go home he's in a pissy mood and he wanted them to leave he didn't have a right to tell them to leave what band director has every right to be on his home football field at his school to perform as he sees Fit until they are done performing😢 they both could have acted like adults but that being said if this policeman would have waited five minutes that song would have been done
I have the feeling that you were the German who would have told on the Jewish neighbors because the cops told you tell them where are the Jewish people were hiding you know you knew for what was in Morrow you would do it because you have some warped sense of morality😂 morality is what God says what you as a card-carrying member of the Karen Club in her own wisdom says right😂
The culture needs a complete rehab
Band manager deserved everything he got. He should have multiple charges and he should not be around school children.
Listen to the police. Period.
Mannnnnnn they turn the lights out, get yo asset’s outta here!!! He had a whole band playing while the police told them it’s time to go….. and he didn’t go?!?!?! My goodness it’s REAL problems in this country, this ain’t one of them!!!
what is wrong with these people? DO people not know how to be respectful and follow directions. He was not assaulted he refused police orders kept yelling get out of my face just like thugs do. What a band leader (not) Instead of just doing what was asked and show respect and teach that to the students. He is looking for a pay out
He couldn’t afford to be a thug…. he didn’t have a gun OR a badge.
@@buckjohnnie2642I’m sure he could just steal one.
@@joemamma137 That is a lot of cops M.O., besides rape, molestation, human trafficking… just to name a few. But they are given the “OKAY” by the courts . MUCH RESPECT TO THE REAL COPS‼️
Ask yourselves why he kept on after being told to stop. Who was he playing for??
This isn't a black problem. This is an out of control government problem. I would like to see the video.
The police were wrong. I saw the cam footage and he didn't not swing on them. He was doing his job, this is why we have lost faith in our police. Shame on that superintendent for doing this to this man and to those students. What harm would it have been to just let them finish playing? They sounded amazing btw. Watching from Texas. I'm praying for justice and that who cause this chaos be exposed and fired from that school. They have no place around our youth.
Did you not see the part where he tells the officers to get out of his face? You are supposed to obey the officers.
@@ak102986 Yes I did, that was not a threat, or a reason to tase him, those police officers went to far. Plus they tased him when he had hand cuffs on. They ganged up on him making a hostile scene.
Also did you see that when they finished they immediately ganged up on him? They were just pissed they didn't stop playing. They could have said on they are done now, they didn't do that, that assaulted him and restrained him for no reason.
@@sabrinabeavers2396 Threat or not, he was the one who created the hostile scene. You are supposed to comply with officers, even if you think they are wrong/regardless. Did he do that? No. They also told him he was going to be arrested but he still continues. As for the taseing, I would need to hear the officer's reasons why they tased him before making a judgment. Regardless, he created the situation by not complying with the officers.
@@sabrinabeavers2396 I would not call it ganging up on him, officers are trained to support each up, it is called backup. They did not assault him and have a legal right to restrain him for not complying.
Explain to me, why it is just on the officers to do everything right or de-escalate the situation?
The situation is his fault since once again he did not comply. All he trying to do not is to get away with his bad behaviors. There are numerous videos on youtube showing people thinking they are above the law or do not have to comply/obey officers.
It wasn't a lawful order. Playing music isn't a crime. He's about to get PAID 🤑🤑🤑
Black folks like yall make us unliked.
Nope. He'll have to pay court costs, and reimburse the city for having to spend resources to discipline his whiny self.
Whether he was told 3 songs or not, when the other band stopped he should have stopped to. Let the school get after him for not doing his 3 songs because he followed police directions. But no he kept telling them to get out of his face. He should have taught the children respect by following police orders. To keep playing against all commands, is teaching children to be defiant.
When the other band stops, that is the signal for the other band to play. It is tradition.
@@AceMoonshot if they had agreed to 3 songs each and the other band shut down before the 3 songs as the lawyer stated, it should have signaled him to shut down.
@@diacrawford5587 They alternate. So the away team would stop and the home team then starts.
That is the tradition.
So the away team stopping would be exactly what the home team would use as their cue to start.
Why didn't he just let them arrest him? This is ridiculous! Police tell you are under arrest and being cuffed,you comply! Less charges no fuss no muss! He was wrong! I was in the marching band in high school and I can't imagine my Band leader doing anything like this. He is a disgrace! He deserved what he got!
uhhh HELLO??? He is black.
No arresting or tasing needed to take place. Why do you advocate for violence by the state???? Weird. They could’ve fined him or given him a warning.
He had plans with a white woman though
@@sarashepard7504 uhm. Because Mims ASKED to be tased. He ASKED to be brought to the ground. All he had to do was stop his students from playing and left the stadium. MIMS escalated the situation with TWO THUMBS UP. He escalated the situation with not complying. Basically, he thought he could George Floyd his way to $$$$.
@@machone539 Agree! This was so unnecessary. Comply with the police!
Where's the reporting and outrage over the thugs who ran over and killed a cyclist in Vegas recently?
When a cop tells you to do something do it. Don't fight back then sue the brakes out of cop. The moment you start fighting is when you loose your case. I saw the video go see for yourself before you listen to mainstream media.
This could have turned out so badly. When the police turned off light it could have caused a panic among the students, someone could have been hurt or killed. There were others across the field, not just this band. These police over stepped themselves, no reason to ras this man. Police are way too fast to do bodily harm to some people. When he was asked to stop,the band leader should have stopped. Yhis incident should never have happened.
The game was over and all these people should have been on their way home. You can’t just be on a field public or private because you feel like it. He was wrong. Then he escalated the situation. As a parent I would take my kid out of any school that would employ that fool. They have enough examples of poor character and bad judgment.
Everybody got their own opinions and a lot of them are just that opinions. The fact to the matter is it should have never went that far. The cops always take everything to tge extreme and this is what they did. They turn out the lights so that noone would've seen their dirty deeds being done.
Thank you for your generous comment. These days, very few people give away their ignorance for all to see. You are clueless!
@chrispnw2547 really clueless, mmmm honey, please spare me with this mess.
Nonsense. The police gave him every opportunity to comply, but he rudely told them to go jump in a lake (figuratively speaking) and disobeyed a lawful order.
The arrest is justified, as is the use of non-lethal force.
To all those people asking why he just couldn’t do what he was told - is that what you *really* think we’re all here for? Doing Master’s bidding? Are we independent Americans or are we property of the State? Are we to follow every order, bow and scrape, inject foreign substances into our bodies, lie about our perceptions, not even question why? This is so much bigger than just some HS band teacher. This is the question we’re fighting on ALL fronts right now. Black and white, rich and poor, left and right, man and woman, every last one of us are affected by this. Do we want an authoritarian or libertarian society? Do we want to be the slave or master of our lives? And we better hurry up and decide because it’s only going to get uglier if we don’t.
Yea, we all stop following all lawful orders, that sounds smart you mental giant. You know what happens after these football games, and why the school and superintendent wants people to disperse? Get a clue.
This could have also been avoided if dude stopped playing and pursued the matter with the authorities. Good example teaching kids how to handle conflict responsibly. I'm sick of this garbage.
Poor dude. Don’t let the cops break you. Stay strong. Stay free. Keep marching on.
How dare you keeping the band kids safe longer than your slotted time
Break out the dogs
How about do what law abiding citizens do obey the officers commands let the officer do what the officer intends to do. The fight begins and ends in Court then if the officer broke the law the officer will face disciplinary action. If you resist arrest you allow the officer to use what ever force is deemed necessary to stop you from resisting!
What LAW required him to OBEY the police? There's not one!
@@diannelaws9441 Don't even bother with this person. They are unaware of qualified immunity, for starters. Not to mention proper use of force and escalation/de-escalation techniques .
Next thing they'll say is "just comply" or "you have to do whatever law enforcement officers tell you to do." Dude's confident in his ignorance, he's using exclamation points.
If a certified law enforcement officer gives a lawful order in his jurisdiction, then you must comply. This IS the law. @@diannelaws9441
My 8 year old is holding a press conference at 3:00 pm. She was told to stop playing her flute, but thinks she doesn’t have to do what her mom and say. She feels like a criminal after being forced to stop.
GONNA SUE FOR 100 MILLION DOLLARS BUT WILL SETTLE FOR 20 BUCKS RIGHT NOW. 😅😅😅😅😅
I must say that they asked him so many times to STOP playing... They told him that it was over.... My main concern was what kind of leadership is it for the kids to teach them about following directions.... I can't side with him in this situation... It didn't have to happen...
Grown adults act like children. The band director teacher had every right to play as long as they wanted WTH is the big deal. The police need to go after real criminals and leave law abiding citizens alone. This is a school band on schools property.WTH the police going after a band are the police crazy stupid or what man how silly this looks for the police. 😂😂😂😂😂 its a joke right 😂😂😂😂
Fire him for unprofessional behavior.
gerrymandering isn't the only problem in 'bama'
I hope you sue!
Too bad taxpayers will pay
Always fussin' and feudin'. No self control, none of you, violence is your culture.
I agree that cop and many like him are the epitome of a violent culture. They feel justified.
It doesn't seem to matter how they're dressed. None of them have self control.@@lucindaacosta386
What a trash example this clown set for the kids. The BPD took the trash out
Birmingham City School said that it prohibits the 5th quarter, stating that BCS High School bands are instructed to exit the stadium at the end of football games. "As a safety precaution, fifth quarter performances are not allowed," Birmingham City Schools said in a statement Wednesday.
"Fifth quarter performances are not allowed." His arrest and the Use of Force was authorized and appropriate. Band Director and all related/involved School staff should also be fired.
Stop already with the im black and a victim!!!
He got what he deserved. The cops should sue him for making them tase his sorry butt.
And the band played on
The cop that he shoved was literally twice his size. He is lucky all he did was get tased.
You should have stopped when you were asked to.
One minute longer for the band to finish their song is not worth tasing anyone. Come on everyone…apologize and move on.
You must be those folks who over stay their welcome at restaurants. They close at 9pm and you stay until midnight. Gotcha.
20 minutes longer. Also told by police numerous times to leave. He ignored them. Always bully victims huh
Sounds to me like he needed to ride the lightning several more times.
@@machone539it’s normal to play songs after the game ends. And even if it something the director did was wrong it’s nothing to get tased about
@@deli9247why do you people always lie about what the use of force was used for? You do know no one buys your lies, right? Taser for resisting arrest, more on
This gentleman acted like a child…he showed zero respect….zero intellectual discipline…zero judgement…
grow up.
W.T.F. “ you can’t work in bama without getting into a fight on “ (river boat) the children 👦🏽 can’t play sports in school without being harassed and called out their names “ now the band can’t play and certain people can’t voice their opinions to police 👮♀️ without being tased “ are we sure this is 2023 when they’re still allowed to do these kinds of things and get away with it without consequences or repercussions ? Time’s way out for the B.S ! Things must change! HOLLA 🤙🏿 !
Doesn’t look like much has changed in Birmingham over the last 6 decades I have visions of bull Durham releasing the dogs and firehoses
The police officer did what he had to do. The band director should be fired and charged for teaching kids to disrespect authority
In the South it is commonplace for high school bands to continue playing after the game. The other band was playing also. The police escalated a situation and turned it violent, in front of children and families! Mr. Nims was allowing his students to finish their scheduled song. Mr. Mims was in the right. The more you know...
I'm sure Deputy Fife was in fear for his worthless life from all that threatening music, so he HAD to whip out his taser. Yes, we need to welcome the boot on our neck, so we enjoy the police-state you so fervently desire.
@@raghailligh1080 Let's not forget Mims gave the two thumbs up for being arrested. I love BLACK privilege.
@@chriso.8150exactly! No one seems to understand this is normal for matching bands. This could’ve been handled so much better
@@raghailligh1080well, one doesn’t use a taser when in fear of life. Jethro. Soooooo?
They turned the lights out to have a laugh panicking the pickaninnies!
Fifth quarter shows are absolutely not allowed.
I just want everyone to remember how some people handle personal emotions. The band director was doing his job in front of children and he was tased and treated horribly. The students will probably never have respect for law enforcement.
Like they do anyway which is why they end up shot 🙄
The band director was disobeying a lawful order. He was rightfully subdued and arrested. The students should learn from this, that when you behave as impetuously as Johnny Mims did, then you'll be seeking trouble. Those who seek trouble will find it.
Who cares if they “respect law enforcement”. As long as they respect the law. Otherwise, we can read about them in the arrest report, or the obituary.
Why didn't they just let them finish the song. It looked like to me that some people wanted them to stop and get on the bus.
Look at the look on his face, like he didn’t bring that on himself. He wants that free money! We ALL WANT THAT FREE MONEY!!
So go get tased
He should learn to follow orders! He needs fired.
the taser was also not only a physical attack ...but an attack on his character as well...... loool ... and I only thought it was electric
His character? Ok..
It should t ever happened.
That band director set a terrible example in front of his kids. Disrespect of authority is never a good thing. He was asked to do something that was not hard to do. Stop playing. But instead he chose to ignore the police who have the right to enforce the law. Just another self-absorbed, entitled black man that thinks the law no longer applies to him. BLM has made things worse because they believe they are now above the law. They are not. He should go to jail for assaulting the officers. He got what he deserved and I have absolutely no sympathy for that obnoxious punk at all.
This band director's lawyer can't even say "ask," she had actually said, "axed".😂
So you you are focused on pronunciations?
your comma usage is wild. you have no room to be talking
Wa-chew-takin-bout-Willis?
Y’all fight for the wrong shit the game is over leave them folks got stuff to do too…
The school already responded and said that was not allowed at THEIR SCHOOL. Not all schools have the same rules. They were not at their home stadium so they shouldn’t have assumed they could stay as they did ESPECIALLY after being asked to stop playing and leave. Forget school rules and office asked him to.
Then that should have been communicated BEFORE the game or after. There is no excuse.
The cops were trying to save people from that terrible sound the band was making.
I can’t take her seriously with those glasses 🤓
He lead the band to play beyond athletic hours, beyond school district hours, and in the dark, endangering the safety of the students and his safety. Does he not understand what he’s responsible for?
and you are...?
@@johndoe-ep7qkSomeone with a reasonable IQ.
All they had to do was pack up and leave the stadium !! But you know they a lil ignorant 😂
Who is, "They?" Sounds racist and bigoted, doesn't it?
Wow!!! For the safety of all involved, why not comply with officials?
yes, and for the safely of all, why not just let him finish the last song, as they were, and let everyone go on their way? this yet another overreaction by johnny law who knows about how to interact with people and/or de-escalate a situation.
You do know that the only reason there is a police presence there is because there is a history of violence after the games that the school can't control. That officer had a job to keep everyone safe by dispersing the crowd, which was meandering due to the bands still playing, this just gives opportunity for the trouble they are specifically there to stop. If these kids and parents could control themselves, the police wouldn't have been there in the first place. @@johndoe-ep7qk
@@johndoe-ep7qkI was playing my guitar years ago and wasn’t being too loud. The police showed up because of a noise complaint. If I would of acted like the director then I would of been arrested too.
Mims is trying to be the next Jesse Jackson / Al Sharpton, but failing miserably.
Exactly
Law enforcement aren't the only ones who need to set an example. Maybe they are telling the truth and he did not hit an officer but he was clearly under arrest. The kids shouldn't have been brought into it, but they were BY YOU when you resisted. Maybe the arrest was unlawful and the courts drop the resisting charge, but YOU are still the one who decided to resist. The video they released didn't show what happened immediately before the arrest but it definitely showed YOU resisting instead of fighting the arrest in court. YOU most definitely do not deserve your job back.
There’s that culture we all want 😂
Trump's Fault
I blame Tate
This is absolutely disgusting what they did to this band director. What was the big deal. There was nothing wrong with staying over and playing music for as long as they wanted WTH. What is wrong with people WTH. This band leader is capable of shutting off the lights. This is just ridiculous and dangerous to shut the lights off. This is a school paid by our tax dollars this educator should be allowed to play music as long as they wanted. This is a outstanding excellent teacher who puts in many hours of his own time. This was just disgusting and disgraceful.
If you are given a lawful order by a certified law enforcement officer, then you must comply. Mims didn't, and instead deliberately caused trouble to stroke his own ego. He was rightfully subdued and arrested. You know I am 100% correct.
Stfu u prob blacl too
Not only was he in the wrong but he escalated the situation. He should lose his job too.
@@theokaczynski2794no your 💯 wrong. The police were idiots. This is not Nazi Germany. This will be a law suit and the police department will lose and it's going to cost a few million dollars. Pony up tax payer.😂😂😂😂
When directed to stop playing-instead says get out of my face and directed the children to keep playing-this could have escalated for some of the children in his care to get involved-but I do think the police could of handled it better
Wait until it's your children or grandkids because it's going to happen 😂. The curses of YAH are poured out over you Now. 😂
@@queenmommie100your not Gods chosen.
He lucky it wasn’t worse, I don’t think he is a good example of leading by example!
oh thanks, we missed those charges, we will but them on top