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Michael must be having financial difficulties.
Michael knew about the conservator ship in his 2011 book.
He knew about it when he was 18. I have to believe he was dimwitted and needed a conservatorship if he couldn't read or understand the paperwork by the age of 18.
He was told that the word "conservatorship" meant afoption of person over 18 years old. He was just a teenager for goodness sake
@@greatmatth3093exactly. they lied for misleading for what the word meant, and as a teenager assumed good faith from a "family" that took him in.
@@decksranred4183have you ever heard him speak? He's certainly not "dim witted"
@@user-rh4qv4gd8t So you think he speaks like some kind of *intellectual* ? Seriously???
They're blaming the victim for finding out "too late."
I wonder if the Brittany spears situation made him start putting things fully together.
I was wondering the same thing....Do they know the Tuohy family? If he is a victim then They're "Victim Blaming"....They lost some credibility with me....
I don’t think Mike is victim blaming he’s just speaking in terms of the actual legality of the claim when taking into account the law in context with the statute of limitations
Duh this is what these ghoulish people do: they enslave and exploit you then blame you for your chains.
The law is stupid for sure and I feel bad for the guy if he was taken advantage of
He wrote a book in 2011 and he knew about the conservativeship
Yeah. These clowns haven't done their homework.
The good part is that this case will be easy to determine the facts. All you need is a forensic accountant and follow the money. See where it went. This case is all based on documents.
They dont want an accounting. So they will fight it tooth and nail.
@@Bruss813who is they? MO or the Tuohys?
If the Tooheys have nothing to hide then they should hand all accountable documents over to Michael.
They are trying to cover their tracks now
The father said they didn't make money off the movie. The biological son said he made money off the movie. Then the father changed his story of money was made. Something is wrong
I don't think so. The family sold their business for over 200 million. I don't think the royalties from the movie even scratch the shins of their wealth. But I'm gonna wait for all the facts to come out before I label anybody.
It’s no accounting we will never know
@@markydan1232 Selling a business for $200 million doesn't mean that the family would turn down MORE Money, right? People continues to earn money beyond their present net worth, right? Bill Gates and Warren Buffett who are worth BILLIONS continue trying to earn more money right?. So that would be a poor argument about the family having $200 million, and would not try to earn more money in any way possible?
@@markydan1232 The family did not have $200 million 19 years ago, same as the founder of FB didn't have $2 million 19 years ago in 2004 before FB was launched on the INTERNET, but now he is worth BILLIONS, right? These crooks saw a BIG investment in the BIG BLACL football player, so they reeled him into their home, and have him unknowingly sign a conservatorship without proper knowledge . ALSO, they could have ADOPTED him in Tennessee because that state allows ADULT adoptions, so they LIED..
@@etruscancivilization but why would they rip off Michael? The family is getting slain on the internet when nobody knows the facts.
The fact he never received money for a 300,000,000 grossed movie about him is sickening 🤬🤬
Agreed,but that is how it always goes
1000% agree
They talked about the law and how long it took instead of what that family did to him
@@ufounionfilmingoperations94 Whoa people, there’s other details that I don’t know the answer to.
The 2009 film is based on a 2006 book, written by a journalist, that was written about the evolution of Offensive Football, after the impact of LT, that also included Oher’s story.
There’s going to be a web of licensing and adaptation, etc. here.
The father that family came out and said they never received a dime for any of it, which has to be bulshit I'm hearing so many stories that they bought over 100 Taco bells with the money from the movie
That family was worth over 100 million before the met Michael. They didn’t need his money
They didn’t need his money but greed is that the more money people have, the more they want. ,the most selfish people
Are always the richest.
...and they didn't *take* any money. _Right?_
If the Touhys had any class at all, they wouldve included Oher in the royalties even if they didn't have to contractually. Sounds like they are not classy.
they gave him a home. why would they risk it. They did well because of what he is capable of
They paid for his life, clothes, food, college, shelter for years. Now he has $40 million in NFL earnings, why does he need more of their money? And I do believe he was paid in some part.
they gave him a home for less than a year@@AG-vb6vv and he was getting by without them. Before het met the TUohys he was an American All Star player at just 15 (2 years before he met them) and was getting scouted by recruiters who were pushing great deals his way. This is absolute shite - the movie is not real life.
@@basicallyno1722 Giving someone, anyone, a home is a very personal thing, letting them stay at yours I mean. Would you do that if you didn’t feel any affection, compassion or care for someone? Would you do that if you were racist abusers? And don’t say it was some nefarious ploy to use him, please… that’s some 7D chess there. This kid there is the one amongst thousands to become successful, he will even have a movie on his story, he’s going to have a great career, etc etc. And also they were already rich millionaires, if they wanted more wealth pretty sure they’d just invest in their business (sold later foe $250 million) than some long winded plot to groom a kid to raise as an NFL star… to what end, who knows? Honestly, something is wrong about the story that you paint.
How do you know they didn't? The facts have not been presented yet.
Speaking of Mississippi, why is Brett Favre still walking around free?
The same reason why the governor who gave it to him is. Or the same reason why some people who scammed the PP Loan are.
He White.
Exactly
Easy. *He`s White.* I remember 3 Black NFL players sentenced to Federal prison the last 3 years:
- *Clinton Portis was sentenced to 6 months Fed Prison for health care fraud* (he claimed he paid out of pocket for a fake injury, and got the money reimbursed from his insurance. Feds found out and jailed him).
- *Josh Bellamy was sentenced to 3 years Federal prison, for taking Covid-19 "Business loans" even though he had no business.* 😆😅🤣😂
- *Robert McCune was sentenced to 5 years in Federal prison for defrauding the NFL player health care benefit plan for retired NFL players.*
Great question. What is with Mississippi anyway?
Like how Mike gets animated when discussing legal issues🤣
Publicity stunt. He has a book that just happened to come out right before this lawsuit. 😂
That's the allegations. He did not get paid from the book at all.
He's suing now because the Touhy family just sold their restaurant franchise for $200 Million and he wanted his advance inheritance from it.
Exactly. You are the first to mention his RIGHT to an inheritance if he was adopted. Again, people keep glossing over the fact that he had no legal representation at 18 years of age. The judge denied him that. Any contracts he signed are null and void because he was DENIED proper legal representation.
@@williejohnson5172 All of his NFL contracts and endorsements and book revenues was his. The Touhy's had ZERO anything from any of his adult earnings.
What about the fact he tried blackmailing the family for $50 million after the husband sold his business and they refused. What happened to all the money michael made in the 9 years of football ? blow it like most of the athlete's do ?
Hes using this to help his book sales. 🤣
Even when that movie came out. It was reported that some of that movie was fabricated from family, friends and teammates that knew him best. From reports. But, thats wrong of that family to get money and and still get a percentage of the money from that movie and not Michael Oher. Smh.
I don't believe a word that Michael Oher has said. Ungrateful POS.
The family claims he did get money from it and BTW the movie was just as much about them as it was him. Sandra Bullock won an Oscar for her performance portraying the mother and was the star of the movie.
@@ljcalhounfamily got royalties and Michael didn't. The author of the book is a friend of the Tooheys and made money, Michael made nothing from the book, the daughters husband made money from working on the movie as well as others in his family. They also put a lot of earnings into the Tooheys foundation. They were all involved making a movie about Michael where Michael looked stupid and pathetic and they were the hero's.
He has every right to take action.
If they are above board with their accounting they have nothing to hide
Priveledge shows up in weird ways. These two biffs just whining about an arbitrary statute of limitations instead of what the heck actually went down is a real gem of a moment. Did this family all get paid exept for him? Did the movie producers portray this man as something he is not? These seem to be way more important questions than "oh well how much time has past? Can't catch us now!" What?
He got paid plenty from the movie. And earned $35 million in his career. Before they met him, he was homeless. He owes everything he has to them, he should be grateful.
No, the movie didn't portray him as something he's not. It very early on showed he had issues learning and no one took the time to address them. Having worked in and helping in the education system, learning disabilities go unrecognized until someone WANTS to deal with it. The movie even shows he just needed to be taught a different way in order to learn - which is true for all people. Never did it show he was stupid, which he's claimed for a while. What we'll get to in the end of this is that Michael Oher is at a place in his life where he's redefining his history and has been influenced in a way that makes him question how things went down. The real fact of the matter: if someone hadn't helped him at a young age, he'd either be dead or stocking shelves at Home Depot.
Ohhhh just beeee quiet. Geez
You are so right.
At 37 yrs old and has a conservatorship is a damn shame!
There is no statute of limitations applicable in this case since the conservatorship is still extant.
He waited because of the trust and love he had for them! He was blind sided.
Easu can never love
Jacob
Yes, that’s the real Blind Side!
Or maybe he's just dumb like is alleged in the movie.
You can tell he didn't take classes at Ole Miss, 10 years and had to have someone tell him 😆😆😆
Statue of limitations doesn't matter because i don't think he's after money, unless the money belongs to him. The petition is to terminate the conservatorship for the future. If the Tuohys wasn't up to no good, why wouldn't they terminate this thing themselves in all this time?
I don’t know what to think it’s just sad to see this . No winners in this . Crazy it took this long to file this.
All of the falsehoods we are aware of were told by the Tuoys. Adult adoption WAS an option. Conservatorships are meant for those with severe limitations, and provide zero familial status to the conservatee - ALL of which the Tuoys lied about.
Their story about the amount of the movie and book proceeds has changed about 5 times since this news came out.
The Tuoys did not file ANY of the annual accountings of the handling of Oher's finances mandated by the court.
The lawyer Micheal had is so close to the Tuoys, Micheal was told to call her"Aunt Debbie". In the court proceedings for the conservatorship, Aunt Debbie waived Michael's right to a court-appointed, independent advocate who would have operated in his interest and make sure he understood the legal ramifications. Pretty shady.
Michael apparently went to them privately and asked them to make things right. They told him to kick rocks, so he filed the petition demanding an end to the conservatorship and a full accounting of funds. They PUBLICLY accused him of a shakedown.
Leigh Ann has made her whole identity as The White Lady Who Adopted a Black Teen and Turned Him Into a Linesman, which she knew to be false. She has created a whole cottage industry for herself based on these lies.
More info may come out, and Michael may not be guessing the right dollar amount, but so far the Tuoys have the bulk of explaining to do.
No winners? The family won heavy, even if this gets settled, the family still made bank
On the Jim Rome show posted 2 days ago Michael Oher says he was All American before he met the family.
No he wasn't. He's lying.
That is a load of crap. He met the Tuohys in 2005 and became All-American in 2008.
It’s not a lawsuit, it’s a filing to terminate conservatorship.
The statute of limitations, huh? They are literally CURRENTLY the conservators with no accountings up to date. What is this guy saying? The court itself, by statue, is supposed to receive yearly accounting. Unfortunately, the Tuohys have not followed the law.
The court of public opinion is completely irrelevant when come to the written code of law.
The question I would like to have answered, is this. Would Michael Oher ever have made the NFL without the Toheys? Where would he be today without them?
He was already a highly-recruited, All- American BEFORE he met the Touys. Did you really believe Leigh Ann and SJ (with his condiment bottles) taught Michael Oher how to play football??? He was sought after by much more prominent colleges than Ole Miss, and would likely have been picked even earlier in the first round by the NFL if he'd attended one of them. The book was written by Sean Tuoy's best bud since kindergarten to portray the Tuoys as White Saviors. Get real.
Not being tricked! Quit making excuses for greedy ass people. And it doesnt matter what they did for him! Bring Greedy by going behind his back is still wrong
@@sirtrucks-a-lot4478 do your research ..you have no idea what you are talking about..Michale wrote in his own book that he knew and understood the need for a conservatorship to satisfy the NCAA during his recruitment process back in 2011.Also, who paid for Michaels tuition in HS? The Touhy's ..Who paid for the tutor so Michale could get the grades to get into college and then continued paying for that same tutor to help him in college? The Touhys..Would Michale have received a scholarship to Ole Miss with out the Touhys assistance...No ..Also the Touhys were all paid equal shares in the movie including Michale.
@Highrockman nah clearly you the one who dont know wtf you're talking about and you clearly dont know the difference between right and wrong. It doesnt matter what and how much they did for him, YOU DONT GET FUCKIN GREEDY!
@@Highrockman you're so racist you incapable of processing information. Michael had already received a scholarship to and was already attending the private high school.
In his 2011 book, Michael repeated the manipulative lie the Tuoys had told him, that conservatorship is just the word used for an adult adoption. Actual adult adoption was available to them, BUT THEY CHOSE TO TAKE AWAY HIS RIGHTS RATHER THAN WELCOME HIM INTO THE FAMILY, ALL WHILE CONSTANTLY LYING IN PUBLIC ABOUT IT. It was not REQUIRED by the NCAA that Michael be stripped of his legal rights. Even there, the Tuoys ADMIT trying to GET AROUND THE RULES prohibiting Boosters from financially manipulating prospects to benefit their beloved alma mater. Michael had scholarship offers from more prominent college programs than 3rd rate Ole Miss from which he would have benefitted more. And the Tuoys DID NOT PAY HIS COLLEGE TUITION. I guess in all your "personal research" you missed the part about what a SCHOLARSHIP IS.
Each of the Tuoys were represented by a high-powered talent agency in the movie negotiations, while sticking Michael with their close attorney friend they told Michael to call Ain't Debbie. She is the same lawyer who handled his part of the conservatorship, wherein she waved Michael's right to an independent ad litum advocate who would have looked out for his interests and made sure he understood the ramifications.
Leigh Ann has made a cottage industry of the lies she told about herself and Michael ever since. The Tuoys have made numerous conflicting claims about the amount they made off of Michael's story, and have failed to file a single annual accounting of his finances as required by the court.
The Tuoys have been caught in lie after lie after lie. Your apparent need to cling to this White Savior fantasy has blinded you to the established facts. How sad for you.
If they family has any love for him they would have made sure that movie would have been a monetary source for him just like they made sure it was for themselves and their kids.
The money source is called the NFL and his $40m career earnings
@@gk5908what does his NFL Salary that he earned have to do with the family? Lol the movie was bull rap anyway they didn’t teach him how to play football lol he was already an all American before they met him… there is no movie without Michael Oher so he should have gotten a cut
I said the same thing. If he was my adopted son, I would have made sure he was taken care of just like my other children. I would have taught him to invest his money and made sure he was secure. He is not broke but still he has a right to question the finances.
Also the Tuohys. It was about both. And all of them should have gotten their share of the money 💰
gtsound ... I can absolutely agree with that statement. That's the only part that makes the Tuohy's look bad.
If the Tuohy's believe they did nothing wrong, they should tell the lawyers that the statute of limitations shouldn't be raised. Take it to trial if you're innocent. Someone is lying and not getting this resolved makes it look bad for them. If anything, if they believe what they did was above board, they should have filed an order to cease the conservatorship as soon as he entered the NFL.
Wrong. Why give up a very important legal argument/defense ( statute of limitations) and risk a case not going your way? Ignorance and arrogance.
every person on death row "believes they did nothing wrong" stop it
Oher thought the family loved him. All of you are forgetting about the human aspect. It’s not that easy to just cut them off
That’s the equivalent of saying “if you did nothing wrong you should talk to the police.” No, you should take every legal avenue to defend yourself, no matter how it looks. Because being found innocent is better than being found guilty because you tried to act moral.
@@misinfluence this is contract law. not criminal law
This crap that Michael Oher started, will make people not want to help anyone anymore. Nice job Oher. You did more damage than you think you did with this.
You know nothing dude. Both of us know nothing about this. Logic would say that Michael Oher is full of crap. It's a money grab. Are you really that dumb to believe this story before all of the facts come out? @@princecynebaldEl3164
Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic strip : "The best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people; just get the fuck away."
Can’t trust these rich churchy people.
A little research guys the family sold a business for 200M they didn’t need the money. It was never said in the movie they adopted him either.
Yeah cuz rich ppl are in the habit of turning down more money😂 Also, dont think ppl care if the book or movie didnt specify an adoption. Clearly Mike didnt know, which is the bigger gut punch.
They’ve been calling him his an adopted son for years - are you serious?
I hope Mike provides updates because i like the lawyer point of view
He did a terrible job because he didn't even state what the title of the petition was for or the parameters of such a thing, that being a conservatorship. He made it seem like it was a typical civil tort and/or contract suit when it wasn't. Ironically, he betrays the same bias as Jason Whitlock in this matter, being pro-Tuohy and anti-Oher.
Blaming the victim. Nice guys!
Yep
@kc23 this is about the Tuohys, HOWEVER it makes you wonder why he didn't end the conservatorship once he entered the NFL. The case's outcome could go either way because of that issue.
I don’t consider anyone who made 37 million dollars within 8 years, a victim.
Plot twist:Sandra Bullock wins her second Oscar by starring in the sequel as the villain this time.
I’m sure she has already signed on for the sequel
Who cares if they were compensated for the movie. They took this kid into their home when his own threw him away. This is the thanks he gives them? What a POS…
He was an All-American at 15 years old and they took him in at 16... Do you really believe that Mr. and Mrs. Tuoy had no agenda when they decided to take in a homeless 5-star football recruit? They were literally boosters at Ole Miss lol. If Michael had been on the Robotics team the Tuoy's probably would not have extended the invite for him to crash lol. That dynamic is likely the biggest mis-portrayal from the movie because it shifted the ownership of everything Michael had ever worked hard for on his own, and gave all the credit to the Tuoy's. I could see how that would be frustrating as he became an adult.
As soon as I saw the trailer I knew it was going to be the biggest BS evangelical white christian savior garbage, so glad I never watched it.
I made this point, at 16 you know what a young man is going to be built like as an adult. If he was built like Kevin Hart they would’ve never looked at him twice. It’s so gross because there’s good folks out there like Mike Chandler who has a (very young) adopted black son who he clearly loves to death, this is going to make it seem suspicious anytime a couple adopts outside their race and I think that’s a real shame.
Bro, he was an offensive tackle. He wasn't the next Patrick Mahomes or Jerry Rice. 🙄
@@jirky015tackles get paid better than running backs. It’s a very important position. Left tackle has to protect the QB’s from blindside hits
@jirky015 He was one of Ole Miss top recruits also 1st round draft choice who played in NFL for 8 years
Yeah I said The same thing Why Now? All this time past and This Just came to light? Never was mentioned in the 2009 interview? Something not Right!
Statute of limitations doesn't really apply. It's not a lawsuit and as long as the Tuohy's are still the conservators of his estate he can file at any time to terminate the conservatorship.
If it’s judged he was defrauded in this statue will start from the time
He found out
@@JTScott1988correct. Depends on statute.
Exactly. It's amazing he didn't have the conservatorship ending a decade ago.
Exactly, and Emily d baker is talking about it now. She's a top prosecuter
It is a civil case where he has asked for profits from the movie, attorney fees and punitive rewards (ie cash). Oher stated in his 2011 book that he was in a conservatorship. This case will be dismissed. But he will get the conservatorship ended which is one of his demands.
Lawyer: Why did it take this long to realize you didnt get any money?
Oher: "Didn't you see the movie? I'm dumb as fuck"
They took him in and fed him, put a roof over his head, bought him clothes. Supported him when, initially, he was a nobody. Oher made $30 million dollars as a player. Where is his money? Did he blow it? Probably so. Oher is full of crap. Disrespecting the family that took him in.
"Took him in" I still don't see $30 million worth of "help"
The statements from the family lawyers were very compelling, i really want to know the truth here
read the book they referenced. The 2011 book says that the conservatorship was presented by Leigh Anne Tuohy and their "Aunt Deb" (who was actually their family lawyer) as "type of adoption" but for adults - he says Leigh Anne and "Aunt Deb" stated that signing the conservatorship would "basically mean he was adopted." Theyre even lying about what the book says.
It's simple, the Tuohy's lied. If he was truly a part of the family then they would've made it a point to give him some of the money. They didn't. Think about this in the simplest form. How did everyone else in the family get paid and he didn't BUT he was supposed to be a part of the family? Whether or not anything becomes of this it just shows you how greedy this family actually is.
agreed. they are the definition of devils that many ppl warned us about.
Tuohys came out made a state. Mightvwant to read. Every member even Michael got 14 thousand dollars for the move. Also said the NCAA would not let Michael go to Old Miss if he was not part of family. So they contacted Michael mom and they went to court to do paper work. So Michael could go to Old Miss. Also Michael has a book coming out. Needs some press to get people to buy book
I agree, if they really loved him, they would of gave him a piece of the pie too. Plus they had money. They didn't need that money for real. So for then to not rake care of him shows they true colors.
All 4 family members also shared the same CAA agent while he was represented by the "family friend" who happened to be the lawyer that made the conservatorship lol...
You don't know that he didn't get paid. He was shopping for lawyers spin this.
The movie was just as much about the Family as it was about him. And how ironic he has a gripe the movie supposedly makes him look dumb but he claims he just realized he wasn’t actually adopted over a decades later. Now that’s dumb.
I was pissed at the movie for how they made the black kid look pathetic.
I liked his story and I liked the idea of someone helping him. Yet the movie most certainly made him look pathetic.
If anyone cared about him they wouldn't have let that happen
These court filings defy what we know. Michael Oher is claiming this all started in February 2023, but there's been talk that the relationship between Oher and the Tuohys has been deteriorating for years, so why is that? Also, Oher admitted he knew there was a conservatorship in place at least as far back as 2011, when he acknowledges it in his book.
If Sean Tuohy can prove Oher was trying to shake them down a few years ago, Oher is toast.
Notice how Florio and Simms both give Oher the benefit of the doubt. Simms obviously knows absolutely nothing about law with his dumb comments.
There's texts, he's toast. A burnt piece of crusty old toast. What a jackass
Seems like my initial suspicious about that movie might be correct. I've always found that portrayal of Oher a little icky and exploitative. It's also a red flag to me whenever someone is quick to make a movie about something that just happened. It reeks of opportunism.
Hollywood made the movie. Talk to them.
Sounds like a big hassle to go through bringing a teenage kid into your home, doesn’t it? I don’t see people bothering after hearing about this story.
Yup sounds about rite Hollywood is trash
The movie sucked and was extremely overrated. Can't believe it's considered a good movie or that it was successful but i hope he gets every dime he's owed.
You don’t have good taste, the movie was powerful
@@Dub257 The movie was almost a complete fabrication.
@@joemillz10 still was a good movie
The reason why he waited so long was simply that at the time the conservatorship was entered into, he loved and trusted the Tuohys and he believed what they told him, that this whole thing was equivalent to an adoption. Precisely because of that reason, he also did not question what he signed or look more deeply into the papers; he did not dream that he had been hoddwinked, not by these people. He probably thought it would be cruel and ungrateful to question. And he did not dare question it for a long time afterwards for the same reason. He probably thought he was being taken in for himself, the whole person, but it's very doubtful he would have been taken in by them if not for his football talent. They may not have ripped him off for his money (so far there does not seem to be an indication for that) but they certainly used him to enhance their prestige with their old alma mater, for which he had been playing.
Funny how he takes this legal action after the Tuohys sell their company for $250M and Michael Oher realizes he’s not getting any of that money. We’ll see once this gets to court but I predict Michael Oher will lose and he loses BIG time. They should then counter sue him for slander, ask for a $1 settlement, and disown him.
It should not be surprising that NBC didn't even bother to get the other side of the story, but instead ran with it to get clicks or push a narrative.
1. The Tuohy's COULDNT adopt him as he was 18 when he signed into conservatorship.
2. His MOTHER was there during the signing
3. The PRIMARY reason the Tuohy's did this was because the NCAA wouldn't allow Oher to play without an adult or family authority.
4. The Movie wasn't BASED on a script by the Tuohy's, but a book by a different author. The Tuohy family members each receive $14,000 apiece from the production studio, and according to Mr. Tuohy, Michael himself was paid the SAME $14,000 as everyone else.
This overall sounds like an ex-football player who had a fucked up childhood who is now broke and found some sheister lawyer to ambulance chase for cash from a wealthy family who did NOTHING but help him when his original parents abandoned him.
And they sold their restaurants for 250 million. They never needed his money.
If you want us to believe this shit as the movie came out years into his career you crazy…plus he’s been questioning this movie for a decade !
I thought adpption has no age limit?
@@azieldaly2965 good question. According to the Tuohy's their lawyers said it wasn't an option and instead settled for conservatorship. Maybe the fact Oher's mother was still around played a factor.
@@kenschortgenjr7540 "settled for a conservatorship". A conservatorship is far more controlling.If his mother was still in his life and they opposed the adoption why would they then approve a conservatorship? Doesn't make sense.Seems like they tricked him.
I smell a sequel. The blindside 2: the blindside
They should counter sue for defamation
how did Oher have capacity to agree ?
The movie's transcripts never claimed he was adopted..And Michael Oher wrote a book in 2011, stating he wasn't adopted also.
That’s not true at all
@@kevinheat1942 The movie transcript is not going to be admissible evidence. Oher did in fact state he was in a conservatorship in his 2011 book.
@@ericandbeethoven in the 2011 book Oher said that a conservatorship is the same as an adoption. It’s obvious he didn’t understand the conservatorship and believes he was intentionally misled
They made 200k off the movie. He made 36 million in his career and blew it. What an ingrate.
Oher spent all his NFL money
The rush to judgment and hate on this story is staggering.
journalism is dead
It's typical human nature sad
There’s another issue here, the 2009 film, was based on the 2006 book written by Michael Lewis, a mostly financial journalist.
The book was a more general evolution of Offensive Football book, that also told Oher’s story, based on Lewis’ research.
While I’m sure the Tuchy family was compensated, Michael Lewis’ Book rights were purchased and adapted.
There’s many different ways these licensing rights could be divided up?
Also, when and who told the original lie?
Was it to the guy writing a book on “Offensive Football”?
Did the author misunderstand or take creative liberties with details in the story?
This kinda adds another layer of complexity.
Why’re these guys carrying the Tuohy’s water for them? Talk about missing the point. Gross.
Uh the question is why didn’t he get any money from a movie about his life ?
And the answer is.... he DID get money. Just as the Tuohys proved on Nov 8th with the evidence they provided the court.
The statute of limitations is a moot point if the patient is LYING about having the sponge left inside of him. And Michael is *lying* here.
Adopted children are entitled to a share of the family inheritance. It's not too hard to realize why they didn't adopt him .
I wouldn't adopt the POS either
Biological children and adopted children are not “entitled” to an inheritance. I’ve seen kids written out of wills all the time.
Even when the kids are written in a will, I’ve watched nursing homes take everything. That’s their job; to get every last dime some old resident has.
But, if they had a conservatorship for him at the time the movie deal was made, why didn't they get him a contract, too? For any amount of money? I don't have details, but this isn't how you act towards people you care about, whether family or friends. In fact, this isn't how you act toward strangers.
They still have a conservatorship over him to this day.
The nature of having a conservatorship exists so that the signee of the agreement does not have any control regarding business decisions but instead allows the people specified in the agreement to control their financial affairs so there would be no reason to have a separate contract for him, they act for him and legally are able to dictate all financial endeavours
It’s fucked up if true though
Yeah but If they did that then where would he absolutely no way he wouldn’t have noticed. I could understand not noticing not getting money from the movie due to the fact that mans was already well off at the point in his life and they could have easily sent him some money that’s not even close to what he should have got and acted like it was the revenue from the block buster
@liamc8729 made 15$ million lmfao they were rich before he met them 🤣🤣 He couldn't use his Ole Miss education that they provided to read his contract....had to have someone point it out? Seems like the movie was right, he was Big and dumb. Still is.
The movie portrayed him as mentally deficient, like the mom taught him to play football, and now seems like these people lied about adopting him. I remember watching that movie and literally cringing at the racist white night undertones. It’s not a good look.
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At age 18, he knew it was a conservatorship. He recounts that in his book (2011). I have to think that he was mentally deficient if he couldn't understand the contract (oh yeah, he didn't read it, or couldn't). I think the Tuohys should have left him with his crack-@#$%^ mother.
Love how everyone made a decision without all the facts
If somthing happened, it freakin happened! It dont matter how long they waited. That shit really pisses me off.
He is mad because other NFL players called him Forrest Gump.
After the lawsuit is resolved, Michael should join writers' protest in Hollywood 😂😂😂. Producers will not pay a nobody at that time😂
Shameful! Actually advising the alleged abusers how to avoid getting found out and persecuted
Even more shameful is calling them abusers before any real facts have been laid out. WOW
He admired he knew it was conservator ship in his 2011 book 🤷🏽♀️
To much tackle football while not wearing a helmet.
He waited because He saw them as family and thought they would do the right thing.
He didn’t know that’s why
He's lying. He mentioned it in his 2011 book.
@@chuck1052 he’s filed to end a conservatorship and requesting a breakdown of what happened to the money they’ve gained. There’s nothing to lie about when you want the truth on record.
The man that played Michael said he only met the real Michael one time. I think he said 2 yrs after they started filming. He doesn’t like being portrayed as being uneducated. How many people have a tutor move near their college and tutor them throughout their entire 4 years?? Actually what I don’t understand is why Michael wasn’t arrested for trying to extort 15 million dollars or he would publicly bad mouth the Tuohy’s. What’s up with that?? His first book mentions conservatorship 3xx. He’s had agents n lawyers throughout his career SO WHY ALL THIS NOW?? Because his first book was a flop?? His 2nd book coincidentally comes out the same time these BS allegations does. When things don’t make sense it’s because they’re not true.
This is a conservatorship! There’s no statute of limitations,
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why would you second guess a family you believed loved you? Blaming the victim. Shameful.
He started emailing his “family” first for 10 million. Then said in the next email that the price went up to 15 million “or else I’m going g to tell the whole world blah, blah, blah….” It sounds like extortion to me.
When you get 37 million bucks in 8 years, someone should have told him he had to make that last for the rest of his life. To make 37 million in your career, most people would have to make a million dollar salary for 30 years of work. But a person can live very comfortably just making a total of 4.5 million in 30 years and retire or $150,000 per year. The average American will make 1.5 million dollars in 30 years.
Why is everyone surprised that this “conservatorship ” is still in effect because At the time the Touhy Family we can’t adopt you because of age or whatever but this Conservatorship is the same thing as adoption so he was not under the impression that he was officially adopted so why would he every revisit this document if you think it was an adoption because that is usually a one time filing the end. Makes me believe his version more than the Touhy family’s version of events
Tennessee law allows for adoption at 18 years of age and even as an adult.
These guys just made me not ever want to watch them again
The lawyer for the Thuoy's said the Thouy's don't need his money.
Well we all know the RICH want to GET RICHER .
And we all know that those who come from the hood remain there, even when given a helping hand.
This has so many holes. Tuohy family were rich when they took him into their family. It's funny how this coincides with his book tour.
They discuss how long it took instead of how foul that family is smh
Can’t talk bad bc they don’t know it’s true
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I know if they make a movie about my life and it makes $300 million and I didn't get a dime it wouldn't take me 13-15 years to take it to court. JMHO
Not one mention of what Michael Lewis wrote about Oher & the Touhys in his book The Blind Side; and not one mention about what Oher wrote in his own book about his life. You guys probably ought to stick to evaluating football games & teams.
Obviously it is not right if Michael Oher were taken advantage of, but i do not buy his story that an intelligent college graduate, such as he is, would not know he has not been paid for 14 years. Sounds like lawyer BS.
Some people are forgetting to ask, "Would Oher have amounted to what he is today, without help from the Touhy family?" He should just move on and keep making his millions from his sport and book deals. Instead, he gives warning to families who are thinking of helping other poor children and youth.
what a disgusting comment.. sounds like shut up & dribble.. smh, shows who you are..
Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic strip : "The best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people; just get the fuck away."
It's always move on and get over it for black people. And I hope no help is given because it usually isn't help at all so those youths are better off
@@gracelove4978 You sound like you hate white people. Sounds like this movie infuriates you because it showed not white-black but a human story. Now it turns out the ‘son’ was a rotten spoilt ungrateful egg, you just have to find a race angle. Taking in a homeless kid is a good thing, and off. He made $40 million in his career, got a home, food paid for, shelter, college, clothes, etc… all of that is a bad thing. You’re a racist idiot.
Exactly.
Conspicuous by their absence and what hasn't been addressed is where was Michael's advisors and or legal counsel in the last 14 years? Surely, they would have/should have had some knowledge of the fact that he allegedly was not adopted. Moreover, where was his legal counsel prior to the making of the movie ensuring that he would be compensated in some way? Regardless of the circumstances this entire scenario is mindboggling but not surprising.
So he was never Blind? I feel betrayed.
Thats why they call it "The Blind Side"
Michael Orr has a new book dropping. If this is Michael’s attempt at selling more books, they deserve each other.
Those two things are equal?
@@wastenotwantnot5953yes. Wait long enough you will notice once a book deal is signed all friendships, family matters, and personal relationships. I mean come on there is a book that has a former president's personal thoughts of sleeping with men out there. Book deals just as equally evil as Hollywood. Money to sell your soul. Live frugally be happy. These are millionaire problems. Leave them alone.
You have no brain. The two scenarios are not equal.
Who cares that he waited?? It’s his business why he waited.
Can’t wait for the Chappelle skit
🤔 Michael Lewis probably got more money because the movie was based on his 📖. 🧑⚖️ If Oher was too old to be adopted, then a conservatorship by the Tuohys may have been the legacy channel through which he could enroll at the University of Mississippi without incurring an NCAA violation.
If's that the case, the Tuohys should have never represented to the public that he was adopted.
True but your missing a key issue. Because oher isn't legally part of the family he got zero royalty money for Blindside.. while the biological kids got over 250,000 each this is what pissed him off, on top of the fact he hates the movie because it portrays him as dumb and shy which he isnt
>>f Oher was too old to be adopted, then a conservatorship by the Tuohys may have been the legacy channel through which he could enroll at the University of Mississippi without incurring an NCAA violation.
BINGO!
That does not make any sense since he was recruited for football and admitted to Ole Miss based on his football ability, no legacy connection required. The Toueys conned him into a conservatorship because of their greed.
@@WinterChoir 🔬Oher was recruited by several universities, but he WANTED to go to Ole Miss, where the Tuohys had attended. However, there may have existed rules in 2005 that forbade alum acting as agents for a university in recruiting student athletes who are not part of their family. Oher's guardianship status seemed informal, so they may have been given legal counsel to go with the conservatorship status since adoption was not available.
The old man sold his business for 200 million$$$$$! End of story.
Turn Around by Leigh Ann Tuohy.
Page 3. Chapter 1. Second paragraph
Page 21. Chapter 9. Last paragraph
Just one fact. The author of the blind side is Michael Lewis.
The truth will come out, and many of the legal experts in the comments section will be shocked to find out they don’t know a damn thing.
Michael Oher knew about it 2011 it stated in his own book. Read his book. Quit saying he just found out about 2023. He found out 2011 2011 2011 2011 stated in his own words.
No good deed goes unpunished, eh? Always knew Oher was just another thug.
The Tuohys sound like the were recruiting an NFL prospect for Ole Miss. The Touhys are toast in the court of public opinion. It's an awful look to say you were adopting out of the goodness of your heart when you really lied to get a movie deal.
They never claimed to adopt him.
@urusledge , according to Michael Oher, the Tuohys said they adopted him. That's the whole basis of the case.
@@mac609 Right. And that would be easy to prove based on media interviews back when the movie came out, as well as witnesses (friends, family) who will be called to testify about how Michael was identified to them by the Tuohys.
@@mac609 he wrote about the fact that he wasn’t really adopted in his first book. In 2011. 12 years ago.
What a load of shit. We will see when all this dirty laundry is aired.
Conservatorships are NEVER a good idea unless the person is unable to care for themselves. Especially depending on the state bc the person under conservatorship has very little rights. I wonder how the statutes will work out for him, but why file unless there’s enough proof OR he believes the Tuoy’s will settle out of court? Most ppl don’t understand conservatorships anyway-he’s admitted to not reading contracts before signing, but ignorance is not a great excuse. Either way-this is crazy. I think they’ll settle!
I don't think they will settle. They didn't need Michael to make money for themselves. He needed them. He'd be just another crack-w@#$% like his mother if they had not intervened. This will go to court, I think, and the Tuohys will come out sparkling.
Blame the victim
Y’all have an under tone as if y’all don’t think he should get justice. I’ll never watch this cast again!
The Touhys come back with that Michael tried to extort him with no evidence
Oh, they have evidence, but it will come out in court.
@@decksranred4183. Someone mentioned emails. It was not smart to send a blackmail request through emails.
How much money did the Touhys steal from his NFL contracts? Why doesn't he bring that up?