Rock Island Armory / Armscor 1911 Rock Ultra MS (cast frame)
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- Product Information - Rock Island Armory Rock Ultra MS 1911
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The culprit is the magazines. The ammo doesn't come up the feed ramp quick enough since the commander-sized slide cycles faster than the full-sized 1911. The commander-sized pistol also need to be gripped tighter than the full-sized 1911 to prevent malfunctions. The longer Mec-gar magazine needed to be tuned with the pistol in order to activate the slide lock. Lube that new 1911 well before you shoot it.
These pistols are tight. Tighter that a couple pistols I have cost 3 times this pistols cost. A break in is a good thing with some of these. I own 3 RIA pistols and my .45 and .22 TCM both had to being broken in a little. After about 200 rds though each the 4 combined failures were never seen again. My 10mm Rock Ultra tactical II never had one hiccup. Looking for a 4.25" when I see one for carry. I can honestly say I own $1400-$2300 1911's that don't shoot as well as my $600 Rock Island 1911's. I trust my life to them. I even take my 10mm on Texas hog hunts because I know it won't let me down. Good job.
The malfunctioning only happened with the fellow with the small hands and it's a fact that he was shooting rapid fire on several of them. It's easy to limp wrist rapid firing.
at 4:20 he loads a new magazine and it immediately malfunctions after one shot
I have the full size version in 45acp. It had issues with fail to lock back and stove piping until I switched to Wilson 47D 8 round mags. Runs flawless now. Some 1911's can be picky when it comes to different mag manufacturers.
Extremely true. Most of the time stove pipping and feed issues usually are because of bad mags
3 of the malfunctions I saw were due to your grip… still I’m in the process of purchasing a new 4” 1911 and this video was not only very informative but also very well put together. It’s helped me make a smart decision thanks
Grip? More like an inferior pistol with use of questionable spaghetti western 1911 magazines. The only 1911 magazines anyone should be using should be Tripp Research Cobra Mags, Wilson Combat or mcCormick mags. We are the number 1 reviewer of 1911’s on TH-cam.
Most made in the Philippines 1911’s suck to be completely honest. Cast frames and poorly assembled. - B9USA
@@roaringsteelmedia what did YB say that you did not like here?? He has strong opinions on magazines! I don’t see any disrespect or foul language. How did he hurt your feelings?? Spaghetti westerns?? I don’t get that either, but I don’t get butt hurt about it myself. Back up your statement so I can understand where you are coming from.
Regards, Beretta SR.
Odd for a Rock Island to malfunction like that, Rock Island says if they dont work out of the box send it back and they will replace it
Sure ! If you can get them to talk to you. Good Luck
Ambidextrous safety did not work from right side , Rock Island repaired in very quick turn around time
You mix malfunction bullet to sabotage
I’ve heard some negative things about the Freedom Munitions ammo.
I've got exactly this firearm. Thanks for the video! I'm not understanding however why you're tossing the mags on the ground?
Thanks for the honest review!!! Greatly appreciated!
I bought the RIA 1911 GI A1 FS on sale $415, after a thousand round without problem, I want some thing better than GI sight, I bought another RIA the same the one that you are testing but mine is 5 inch full size. Both of them function without any problem. RIA 1911 is a very solid pistol, I will buy another RIA if I feel that I want another 1911.
I appreciate your honesty in revealing that you were sent the pistol and ammunition to try out. Keep up the good and honest work.
Michael Weaver Thank-you Sir, and Thanks for watching! Beretta Sr.
RIA really does put alot of nice features on this gun for the price point. It's definitely worth a look for the budget minded.
TheGunfighter45acp Thanks my friend! I appreciate you watching the Channel.
Beretta Sr.
It would be nice if they would tell the truth about the functionality, the failures of ejecting or loading jams.
When they correct these problems, they will get a better review and not just looks or features.
I have the 9 mm version with a 3.5 barrel and had constant malfunctions with the factory mags My gunsmith polished and cleaned up the inside and replaced all three mags with Wilson Combats and it now works like a charm-the way it is supposed to work Really like the gun, but until i had it worked on I couldn't take a chance on it being an EDC
Great video!! I think the malfunctions were magazine related. I just purchased the 1911 A1 Tact Ultra FS in .45 ACP....along with 3 Wilson Combat 8 round mags.
I bought the RIA 1911A1DE and although I didn’t have any problems with RIA Mag I thought it was Cheap. I didn’t like loading it so I bought 4 Wilson Combat Mag’s.
Damn those were smooooth to load.
I’ve shot about a 150 rounds threw it so far including ball ammo and hollow points without any malfunction.
Love the RIA 1911
Looks like it might be a magazine issue. Use Wilson Combat mags.
Wilson is the way to go for any 1911!!
Wilson or Tripp ( cobra ) mags
@@gutadin5my favorite mags are now the cobras. Wilson are my second fav.
I own this gun, a friend and I bought one each new at the same time. The Good: Overall great value. Super trigger, great sights, very accurate. Cycles everything through factory mags as well as Wilson Combat mag. The Bad: Grips: while they look & feel great, the holes were about 0.030" off spacing and gun was assembled whereby the screws drew the grip down & stripped the threads. I had to grind my grips with a Dremel and replace the screws with Wilsons. From the factory, my trigger bow was right to the magazine and the empty mag would not drop out. Notified Rock Island and had to send him back, waited about 4 weeks. No communication in between. The gun returned with new grips and trigger bow, all good now. Frustrating experience, but I get that it's not a Colt price or quality. Now that it's back, love the gun. My buddy's gun had no issues and digests everything as well.
Note gun is a 45 ACP, not sure if they offer it in other calibers.
Cycles factory and hand load ball, hollow point, semi wadcutter, reduced and full loads. Extremely reliable. Feed ramp comes already polished well.
I have the same series but full size. I've ran 1000's of rounds through mine and have only had a handful of failure to feeds that were caused by mags. Just found the mags the gun liked and never had one since then.
I have the exact same pistol. Have no issues so far with it. I use wilson and chip magazine. Very accurate and although heavy. It feels right.
Great review
Damn. Really wanted to like this one. Thought it was going to be the one that dragged me back down the 1911 rabbit hole.
seraph1926 I am going to continue to shoot it and give a update video in the Spring. I just wonder if 400 more rounds will get it to being reliable. It is a good looking 1911 and I want it to work out if I can get it there. Update video in March or April on 2018. Beretta Sr.
Just need to polish the feed ramp and you should be good. I had same issue once I did that not an issue since
Great video, as always guys. Sometimes they just don't run smooth... for whatever reason.
Justin Opinion Your Right Justin, as you know we just show the results of the testing. You do this on your Channel as well, and I dig that about you and your Channel! Keep up the Great Work my friend. Beretta Sr.
Its the slide stop causing the malfunctions its fitted too loose.
I had the same problem with my RIA when I shot left handed. When you shoot left handed your causing the slide stop to walk out just enough to lock the gun up. I replaced mine with a Wilson problem solved
Isaac H Thank-you Sir, I will check this out on the next Range Trip.
Merry Christmas on Christmas Day!
Beretta Sr.
Good to know
You can also take a dremel and grind the slide stop till the stud is flush with the frame....I'm a lefty and I do it to every 1911 I own.....
Great video
4:25 I’ve never seen a malfunction like that before lol Rock Island says they don’t have a break-in period, but it looks like they might. It’s a good looking gun anyway. Nice video!
Very good, honest review. Thanks.
I hear a lot of good things about this brand. Don’t own any, but hear good things. I have considered their 1911 that comes with 2 barrels, 9mm and 22TCM and it comes with 2 recoil springs for each barrel. I would buy one, but my wife don’t understand why I need another gun! LOL, I have too many already. According to her, oh yea, look at all those shoes you don’t wear!!! You know what they say, happy wife= happy life!!!
It seems they are hit or miss, I had one that ran flawlessly for awhile, about a year into it, it got really bad. It was too the point rather then send it back to have to worked on under the warranty I got rid of it.
They are also the Armscor Guns , the biggest and prime gun company in the Philippines .
I've had a rock island 1911 9mm for 3+ years. I've put over 9k rounds through it. I have replaced the recoil and firing pin springs, have replaced the extractor after 1500 rounds because I thought it needed it. I notice getting the right magazine is important for 1911's. But I love this gun it just runs and runs. I also have Remington's 1911 and have shot over 15k rounds through it and love it too.
Bob Hartman Thank-you Sir for sending in this comment. I appreciate it very much. Beretta Sr.
Armscor Ammo is known for being underpowered. I have some of their 308 and it is less powered than Wolf Steel Case.
I have the 5" barrel pistol. Feeding issues until I took some 1000 grit Emory cloth to the top of the feed ramp. After some trial and error It performed flawlessly!!! I love mine and carry it daily!!!! Paid $600 at the gun show!
another great review! i always appreciate seeing the truth,
warts and all.
1 arspyder74 I agree completely, it's funny not long ago a viewer said I always do positive reviews..... this was on an AR15 or AR10 review and the Rifle just fired 450 rounds or so without a malfunction..... I want to report the positive and the negative. Viewers and Subscribers count on this honesty. IMO
:) Beretta Sr.
Very nice
Can’t wait to see y’all review the Kimber khx or
I love mine I'm super accurate with it and it was my first gun too
Looks like you guys had fun. Gotta expect some early issues until after break in. Yesterday I was looking at RII 22TCM models at one of my LGS’s. Have you guys ever tested one? The one they had in stock was a clone of the CZ.
It was priced at about $389.00
I hear they (RRI) have a 1911 version that comes with 2 barrels (9mm&22TCM) that sounds like a great value. Nice video as always guys!!!
Love your honesty.....not to be a wise guy but just for info ....my Ruger SR1911 ran well no problems....I have a feeling that will clear up with use..... nice to see you want to do reviews of budget friendly stuff...all the best...thanks again
russ elder Thank-you Sir. I would love to test a Ruger 1911, but so far they have not responded to our e-mails. Maybe Ruger does not see a value in TH-cam Gun Channels, or maybe they did not like our Channel. If nothing else, maybe I can buy one in 2018/2019. :)
Beretta Sr.
I don't think you guys have made any enemies yet lol.
They just made one with Rock Island...LOL.
Love the Ultra MS....magazines may be the cause of your head aches...great video👍
I just bought one today, can't wait to get it.
Good review.
Hey Beretta Sr. and Jr., I have that same 1911 in the CS Series and LOVE It! I come from strong 1911 roots (My deceased Father a Custom 1911 Pistol Smith) and trying this particular was a bit outside my wheelhouse but Sootch00's video sealed the deal for me. Right out of the box, accuracy was stellar at 25 feet to the point where I could put 7-8 rounds under a 1/2 dollar consistently with little to no effort! I did have a couple of malfunctions but called Armscor Customer Service the suggester that it may be the extractor. they sent a new extractor and firing pin spring with retainer and the issue was solved without sending the gun back. The Parkerized Finish gets better with each Castle 50-5 wipe-down and I did smooth down the VZ Grips a bit with a Red 3M Scotch Pad to remove the sharpness. LOVE THIS Gun and thanks for the featured road test. I am currently looking to get the same MS Tact II Ultra in 9mm but a Glock 26 LE Trade in/Excellent Condition seemingly made it to the collection first!
ConquestN98858 Great Stuff there! Thank-you Sir. You know I LOVE my Glock 26 in FDE.... videos are up on it, it is a little Beast! Enjoy it.
Beretta Sr.
Late to the party here-but another great review, Gents. I owned an RIA Ultra FS in 10mm. Very similar to your gun here. It shot very well, and the trigger was pretty darn nice. Only paid 500 bucks for mine new. I'm embarrassed to say that I sold it, but I'm planning on getting another one at some point-I miss having a 10mm 1911 in my collection.
I’ve got a RIA ROCK Ultra FS SE in 45. I like the trigger on it and the slide is very smooth.
I appreciate all your 1911 videos and reviews by someone who knows about 1911s.
In addition to 3 Colts and 2 Kimbers, I added a "Charles Daly" 1911 EFS (Enhanced Full Size), basically the same gun as the test, but 5" barrel, also made by Armscorp in the Philippines. I picked it up for $525 and couldn't pass on it for that price. I have been very pleased with it. One of my Colts, is a Series 70 Gold Cup National Match I have owned since 1975. If there is any difference in accuracy between the two, it would take a better shooter than me to find it. I prefer the sights on the Colt for target shooting, but as far as accuracy there is little difference with equal ammo.
Except for the one 1918 mfg. Colt 1911 I own which is 100% original, my standard procedure on any 1911 is to replace the extractor with a Wilson Combat extractor, mirror polish the barrel and frame feed ramp and *use ONLY Wilson Combat magazines.* I just no longer bother with anything else. The factory mags stay in the box. I just don't have any failures to feed or extract. *An extractor and polish job is a lot cheaper and takes a lot less time than a 200-500 round "break in".*
I have 3 - 5" guns, One Colt Commander and 2 - 3" Kimber Ultras (Ultra Carry and Ultra CDP) They all run well with 230 gr. FMJ and Federal HST ammo and my normal practice load using a 230 gr. Lead RN which I cast myself from straight wheelweights.
You should sell your factory mags
Most problems with feeding are related to your magazines.
They should use wilson or Tripp cobra mags
@@gutadin5 And.the limp wrist jams.
Love this gun shoot great. little heavy but not bad the value is 100% there
I feel like no firearm should have a break in period. But maybe because of the old (classic) design of the 1911, it does need a break in. Still a nice looking firearm.
Grover Glock Thank-you Sir, I am not giving up on this RI 1911. I want to put another 300 to 400 rounds through it and see if it works out. I love the looks of it. Beretta Sr.
Thanks
I own a 38super RIA they are awesome , I have over 800 rounds never had a problem to feed or to eject.
John Gotti Thank-you Sir, We appreciate the information. This will be good for the viewers to read also.
Beretta Sr.
If I bought one, I would polish the feed ramp, which they don't do. I would also check and if needed, I would throat the barrel. From what I've seen on other videos, the barrel is only partially floated. The ejection port looks like It's lowered and it is faired so these 2 operations should take care of any reliability issues. At the price point these weapons sell at, it would be worth the effort. I think I want one. Also the dwell time may be off. Changing the recoil spring would fix that.
Unfiltered legit review, thank you!
Second "malfuction", the unspent stove pipe! That was the mec-gar magazine! The spent shell was ejected.
I've been shooting 1911's for over 40 years. EVERY time I've tried the 'thumb on top of the safety', it has been very uncomfortable. I seldom use that method, except to prove to myself, once again, how uncomfortable it is, and I have NEVER had an issue with accidentally applying the safety. Decide what works best for you and train accordingly.
Note the amount of muzzle flip between the two shooters vs the number of jams. The 1911A1 requires a VERY firm grip. Also, any new 1911A1's I have shot have required that the barrel feed ramp be polished (and the edge "broken"), regardless of how well the frame ramp is polished. I firmly believe the first accessory for any such pistol should be a Dremel tool!
It’s normal had to do the same with my colt government model upgrading to a full length guide rod helps to
I owned a RI 1911 A1 compact
It had the same issues you had with your T&E gun
Sent it back to RI for repair still had issues when I got it back
Sold it and bought a Springfield Range officer compact
Zero issues with that pistol
I owned a RIA 1911A1 and don't have any issues with my after almost 1000 rds.
When the live round stove piped I kinda thought that's a magazine problem. The only 1911 magazines that I buy are Wilson Combat and Chip McCormick
Try Tripp cobra magz
In all the video reviews I've seen of RIA guns they ALWAYS have some sort of issue with that ARMSCOR AMMO, as well as many other brands of guns having issues with that ammo.
And then again I've never had good luck with extended mags in a 1911 platform.
I have the GI series 1911 45 acp and have not had a malfunction yet!
Very helpful and informative review, thanks! That S&W performance center 1911 does not sound like the best.
Keeping it real like that.
BATJAC J.W Always honest, just like you..... It is the only way to do this as our viewers and Subscribers are counting on us to do a great job. Take Care,
Beretta Sr.
One thing ive heard about RIA pistols is that they hate Armscor ammo, which is funny because its the same manufacturer.
Lindas e perfctas.....
ROCK SOLID! ❤❤❤
My 2 sigs 1911’s stainless and parkerized did no need brake in they shoot like a champ 💯
Thank you gentlemen really enjoyed your video
Thank-You Mr. Trump!! God Bless & I Voted For You….. Both Times.
:) Beretta Sr.
@@BERETTA9mmUSA thank you and I voted for me two times too.
Awesome review on this 1911.
BATJAC J.W Thanks my friend. Beretta Sr.
I have a Rock Island 1911 10 mm and it works flawless
I don't ride the safety with my thumb on my 1911s, and never had an issue with the safety engaging when I shoot.
First off, thanks for the videos guys!! Still building my channel base up myself with the tech side, and am planning starting a channel for firearms as well. I haven't handled a Rock Island yet, but have handled and fired the Springfield EMP, Ruger SR1911(9mm), Smith and Wesson very similar to your older model, Colt Competition (9mm), and my new Dan Wesson Specialist. My initial thoughts are that you definitely start to notice the quality increase with price obviously, but you get to a sweet spot where you can get a great gun for X amount of money. In my personal experience it is definitely in that $800-$1000 range, but that is mostly my observations and opinion.
Thank you also for responding to comments!! That goes a long way for me and that is why I subscribed to your channel. Hopefully you will start seeing some of my vids up in the coming months.
Not easy to make good content and balance other things in your life along with it. Great job guys.
CTR
Captain TechReview Let me know when you get a few videos up on your gun channel and I will come by and watch the videos and leave some comments. I enjoy doing this especially for our Subscribers who are getting their own Channel up and running. I think it is the right thing to do. Some of the bigger Channels never help out the New Channels and Young Beretta and I could never understand this attitude. Let me know after you get 4 or 5 videos up and I will be happy to stop by.
Respectfully, Beretta Sr.
Thanks Beretta.. Much appreciated. I will also add, that your video helped me make my decision when I went to purchase my first 1911 in the Dan Wesson Specialist with Duty Finish. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond and when I do my vid on the Dan Wesson I will be giving your channel some kudos.
Hope to keep in touch. CTR
Just curious guys, did you strip, clean and lubricate the pistol before the test firing? Generally I've found that to be a good practice with any new firearm. For what it is worth, I have the full-sized version of this pistol and the ONLY trouble I've had with it has been with the supplied ACT magazine and with Armscor ammo in combination. I ended up putting the factory mag away and just running my Wison 47D's that I use in all my other 1911's, and had absolutely ZERO feeding issues over the next 500 rounds of mixed Speer Lawman, Federal American Eagle, Wnchester White Box, Fiocchi, and HST.
I wanted to bring to light that tapping the magazine on a hard surface to make sure the cartridges are at the back of the magazine has solved my malfunction issues so far. Maybe give that a try?
Hi, Sir,
I ordered one today. I love it with $350 only
Great video. If you are looking for the best 1911 under $800, its going to be the Magnum Research 1911. I got the stainless 5 inch for $736 from buds. The logo on he side is much smaller now too.
Just bought a new Rock Island 1911 GI FS a couple of weeks ago for $386.00 plus tax and fees, put 250 rounds through it so far, no malfunctions other than slide not locking open on the last round and that only happened with the factory supplied Italian mag, with Wilson and Chip McCormick Shooting Star 8 rounders not a single problem. Also have not used Rock Island ammo, heard of too many problems. Functions 100% with both ball and JHP from Federal, Colt, and Sellior & Bellot. The only modifications I plan on making are a set of walnut or rose wood grips and maybe some Novac styled sights.
ringvaldse I still want this 1911 to work out for me. I really do like the looks and feel of this 1911. Good to hear that you like yours! Thanks for watching.
Beretta Sr.
A lot of people say that the RIA 1911's don't like Armscor ammo. I have the exact same gun, and it runs just fine with cheap ammo (UMC). That being said, I think that's what your issue was. Maybe not, but I thought I should mention that.
chuck miller Thank-you Sir. Beretta Sr.
Thanks guys for the Video. Hopefully with like another 3 to 400 more round she Smoothes out.
tymccutchen I have my fingers crossed..... if not I could try a Ruger 1911 Next. What do you think? Beretta Sr.
BERETTA9mmUSA . definitely go for the Ruger. Hope it fares better
Finally goy my first RIA 1911, i instantly switched the mags, i use tripp research (cobra) mags and Wilson combat. So far no malfunction. In fact I ditched the mag that came with because it wont lovck th slide after the last round.
This will be my next purchase !!!!
I guess the throat of the barrel needs to be polish to avoid malfunction of the bullets,,
I find armscor 45 fmj to be charged nicely compared to other cheap range ammo. Anyone agree?
I have two RIA 1911s, .45 and 10mm. Shoot ball ammo out of good magazines for the first 250-500 rounds. It will settle in. I would almost guarantee your malfunction problems were mostly magazine related.
I would get some Wilson 47d mags and start there, My brother has one and it hated the factory mags that came with the pistol. The wilson mags pretty much cleared the malfunctions up. Me and him took fighting pistol at tactical response in Camden Tennessee. 2 day thousand round class and the pistol finished the class fine. Which is means its GTG IMO.
Full Metal jacket 88 Thanks very much for the information my friend, I appreciate it.
Beretta Sr.
BERETTA9mmUSA Any update on the pistol??
BERETTA9mmUSA also thought you might like to know. I don't know if it's Google Plus or TH-cam doing it but they keep on some not unsubscribing, but they keep taking off my bell notifications so that I get all your videos. I have to keep hitting it so all your videos pop up on my subscription list
I gotta say Wilson combat has the 1911 mag game down!!!
I had a ria gi commander model and I had constant failure to feed and double feeds for the price I would get a remmington r1 around 700 or a Ruger sr1911 for around 700
Polish the feed ramp and you should be good to go. Once I did that then it did not matter what magazines I used. They all worked. The ACT Mag that came with my RIA CS would never lock back so I pitched it. I only had malfunctions during the first hundred rounds.
hounddog234 3 Thank-you for the info. I will do that. I will be doing an update video on this pistol in June 2018. I still like this pistol allot for its size and features. Beretta Sr.
Which mags did u end up going with your RIA CS
hounddog234 3 What did you use to polish your feed ramp?
hounddog234 3 it's not the gun,maybe a magazine issue or his left handed.
The RIA mags are ACT mags*
Polish the feed ramp. I had same issue
Never had a malfunction in my Springfield 1911 45cal Look at would you suggest upgrading bore or just use mags that come with weapons. The lock Back malfunction not unusual for 1911 45cal but not often.
I have the fs one for almost half the price brand new....guess I got a deal...well it was on sale
president excellent pistol fantastic great alot of fun shooting there great excited everyshoot perfict fantastic have nice day karon *****
Edwin Gallardo Thank-you Sir.
the longer the spring of the magazine stretch, the slower it feeds the chamber,. it didn't have any problems with standard magazine. still a good pistol.
I just got the Gi standard 1911 ms I like it but the 8 round act-mag that came with it sucks. Do to failure to feed. But it works just fine in my full size Springfield 1911-A1 and my willson combat mag works perfectly in both of them. And my mill-spec mags form my Springfield 1911-A1 works in my rock island but after the last round is fired it won't cycle
Well I don't know what to tell you cuz I own 2 Rock Island 1911s 1 has about 2,000 rounds thru it without a single malfunction and the other has about 500 rounds thru it also without a single malfunction.....EVER only difference between the 2 is one is the exact style yall were shooting and the other has the light rail on it. Is my duty gun. Theyre both right out of the box only thing I changed on my duty gun was the addition of night sites and a light.
It'll work
Things to replace to fix rock islands acp 1911 ria 45s
Main spring needs to be replaced to a heavier spring
And slide lock spring needs to be replaced to a lighter spring.
It will never fail again
Break 'er in more, boys!
Use Lucas synthetic gun oil and slightly oil the factory magazines as well !! Get some oil down in the magazine and push them #own several times with no ammo in the magazine , feel for any hang or bind anywhere , if you oil the slide and barrel slightly then you shouldn't have any problems with it ! If you do have issues after this oiling change magazine to aftermarket magazine and yes oil it too !
Just picked one up cant wait to shoot it! Great review guys
Rafael Tyron I hope you like it Sir. I did. 🤔🤗💯👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Iv done alot of research on RIA 1911s and this certain one grabbed me. I have heard of the clips being the problem. Do you recommend a brand that I could look into?
Rafael Tyron Cobra Mags, or Wilson Combat Magazines. Take Care.
I seen this gun online for 446..I’m getting this firearm
It would be really cool if you guys could get a TAC ULTRA FS HC 9mm for T&E. I've been debating it for years I want to see it in action. Also, I go up in the mountains in Estacada to shoot and do my videos. Are you guys on private property? Looks like a great location.
been looking for this exact model... can't find it anywhere... where did you get this?... thanks in advance
Swap out to Wilson combat mags you will never have problems again