The most often overlooked aspect of the Arwing is ironically overlooked here. The Arwing is *absurdly* durable. Its boosted shielding can withstand flying through a planet-cracking laser for 80% of its total blast. (The Gorgon Laser is described as a planet cracking weapon).
It's the TIE Defender elite of it's universe. Limited production run, best performance money can buy. The average cornerian dog soldier gets something about as durable and strong as a tie fighters.
@@ToonDoge The problem is that Arcade rail shooters are dead nowadays, because their so short. The good news is that they still exist in indie games. For games like SF 64 there's, Ex-Zodiac, Astrodogs, Gridd Retroenhanced, Whisker Squadron: Survivor, Project Nimbus: Complete Edition and Astebreed: Definitive Edition.
It's a complete shame. There aren't too many games on it and the lore is severely lacking. This franchise could be like the Nintendo version of Halo or Mass Effect in that regard but they choose not to do that. Metroid however is much more lore heavy.
@@generaljimmies3429 As cool as that would be, I don't think that's the case even though cameos are definitely a probably and them having a shared universe is not outside the realms of possibility. But I cannot verify that myself.
There's a fan written sequel story called "Sunrise Over Lylat" that manages to streamline nearly every game into a single time line, while providing tons of backstory and lore snippets to make the universe so much more expansive and rich. It's worth a read, even if updates have slowed over the past year or two. The writing never gets stale, even after steady progress over 9 years of writing. The overall tone is your standard SF space shooty goodness with a huge infusion of both Ace Combat and Battlestar Galactica. I'd recommend the story to any fan of the Star Fox series.
1. From a purely nostalgia standpoint: I would say X-Wing wins for me. 2. From a functional standpoint: Arwing, definitely. It just shreds everything. 3. From an appearance standpoint: I would say that's a tie for me. They're both really cool for their own reasons. Also, I noticed you used some footage from Starlink: Battle for Atlas. You should cover that game a bit!
@@stefanreindel9888 Agreed. I will say I like how the Arwing is super sleek looking, while the X-Wing (especially the T-65) is a little chunkier. Also, the pivoting wings and dual G-diffusers of the Arwing kinda remind me of the F-14 Tomcat, which is pretty neat
I concur with Obi-Wan Canoli, tho I do have a major desire to keep my legs fully intact. So I'd probably go pilot an X-Wing over an Arwing Yeah Eck ya forgot about that oh so little detail that most if not all Arwing pilots have to go through, They gotta have their lower legs SAWED! off and mechanical ones put on to prevent the G-Diffuser system from killing the pilot!
Honestly, I wish I could pilot an Arwing, only partially because Star Fox 64 is my favorite game of all time, but they are just so cool and have such a sleek design
honestly, i would love to hear about every. single. star fox ship. star fox is my most favourite thing ever and has been a big part of my childhood and life. seeing and hearing and learning about all the ships would be the sickest thing ever
By this logic, the Wolfen would soon become the fighter of choice for the empires which would want to expand their area faster, as the lasers are much more powerful than the Arwings and its Hunter form is faster than the Walker. The Arwing would probably be the fighter of choice for peacekeeping organizations, and it’s also gonna be used on the offensive just as much as its shields are superior(to the Wolfen). Ultimately, the Arwing would ruin Star Wars and the Wolfen would ruin it even more.
@@Tartarus144 and extremely difficult to fight against because of the arena, and the Wolfen II's improvements including the ability to summersault. Though the ship would fit much better in a space setting than an atmospheric one.
Just some food for thought: at 1:15, when discussing armaments, it's mentioned the Arwing has T&B laser cannons. Many ships in Star Wars carry Taim & Bak Laser cannons... Let that sink in for a moment. Enjoy!
@@LMoftheCoast You have to realize a defender going against the arwing is pretty much the same as a ME-262 going against an F-22. That ship is practically busted compared to any star fighter in star wars.
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To me, the thing that makes the Arwing a cut above even my beloved TIE Defender (Legends) and T-70 is that it's got both the durability, firepower, and low-speed manouverability of an A-10 (in spaaaaaaace) AND the high speed performance and small target profile of an A-Wing.
By most standards, especially one on one the ArWing would win simply due to its more versatile and cost effectiveness. The X-wing would perform better however in the aspects of durability, longevity, and the significantly lower costs (seeing as how the ArWing was sent out in extremely limited numbers at first). ArWings also needed constant upgrades to keep them in the pinnacle of operating conditions. In short: ArWing simply would win 9/10 times in a one on one dogfight but in terms of performance in an all out war where experienced pilots are often times a luxury the X-Wing would win merely due to its drastically lower costs, durability, and most of all sheer longevity (given that proper maintenance for their fighters was a luxury at best for the Rebels, this lends them bonus points in that department.)
Its Arwing, not ARwing pls edit. It infuriates my soul lmao, but yeah Arwing's the choice to go for an Elite group, and X-wings are more on an infantry level. Something to keep in mind (which I've put on my own comment along side some of Arwing's history and lore) is that G-Diffusors need EXTRA care and handling otherwise they fail and explode. However you are wrong in that durability thing. Arwing is simply WAY superior than an X-wing in every single aspect.
The Arwing actually has allot of interesting history to it and the heart of it's success and troublesome design comes from it's Gravity Diffusion system that it uses not only as a power source but also to bend the laws of physics. For most space craft the idea of inertia Dampening to reduce the stress of gravity on both pilot and ship is nothing new however G-Diffusion allowed a pilot to reduce its effects but also to control Gravity forces against it. The first model Arwing and the most famous in Starfox and 64 had the first hybrid G-diffusion system installed making it a space superiority fighterWhile early versions used a hydrogen fuel system this was replaced by Starfox assualt for a full G-diffusion system like the Wolfen-II in 64 allowing it even greater control and has actually a wide variety of different models and types that fit different roles. Expensive and complicated to fly it shares allot in common with the X-wing but over all it's design is a beast and its development in the Cornaria air force is much like going from a P-51 mustang to an F-15 allowing a long range multi-role fighter to hit deep into enemy territory pretty much unmatched. It is probably no accident though that these two ships share the basic profile, mission specs and transformation features that likely helped create the Arwing we know today. From humble Triangle polygons to sleek state of the art war machine, if Luke Skywalker was a furry fox there is no doubt he would feel right at home in an Arwing. Arwing all the way but the X-wing is certainly the roots to its Iconic look and nature.
Huh...didn't know the Arwing was that powerful. Next you should do a comparison of the capital ships in both universes. I'd like to know how an ISD or MC80 holds out to Star Fox universe equivalents
Being a Nintendo franchise lore isn’t a high priority so not much for any real stats for the ships that you don’t fly as. Most of the capital ships in the games seem like the equivalent to well armed Star Wars frigates. Well expect for the Planet betrayer in Star Fox two that kinda looks like a Harrower from the old republic except it came first and has super laser in the realm of the Mandator 4 to eclipse dreadnaught.
@FangABXY FangABXY Yeah in the warship department, the star fox universe is lacking there. In area 6 (SF64), most of those warships seem to be small, lightly armed, and lightly armored. Along with no shielding. They wouldn't last too long against imperial ships. And in Assault and Zero the firepower has increased (In assault the range and rate of fire is greatly increased and zero, individual ships have absurdly powerful beams of plasma that they fire.) but most ships have still have no shielding. Not to mention Venom ships have laughable overexposed weak points. In zero Venom super ships like the Granbe (With its shields. Which I think is the most capable ship in the Lylat system to fight imperial ships.) and the Salvadora with its 12ish heavy plasma canons could do the most damage. And the area 6 boss in 64 would probably also be a large threat with its laser, large amounts of missiles and phasing tech.
I like to think that if the Arwing existed in Star Wars, its unusual power could be explained by them being outfitted with Kyber Crystals for energy amplification. Extremely expensive, and the reason why Arwings never saw mass production.
the ar-wing seems more like an equivalent to the tie defender. It's an incredibly powerful and incredibly complex super fighter that never went into production because of all the hyper advanced space magic that went into making it.
It's actually far superior to the defender. In fact, if you replaced all Venom fighters with the defender, you'll more less get the same result. Overall Cornerian victory. Even if the arwing's pilot was slippy. The only real threat I see to the arwing from fighters from star wars is the missile boat from TIE fighter. And only in space. In atmosphere, the arwing will go completely unchallenged.
Honestly, the Arwing is a no brainer for the better fighter. The problem comes from the fact you need an ace pilot to really make the most of it, and an ace tech to keep it in peak performance. X-wings require much less maintenance and skill, making them much cheaper and easier to field for a navy. You mentioned the upgraded Cornarian fighter, and while it's true its design was based on the Arwing, its durability, power, and cost were much reduced. I think a comparison between it and the X-wing would be more interesting- at least, if we had more data on the Star Fox side of things.
Very interesting, I'd love to see some exploration into some of the enemies from the stream gameplay, they are very unique, and I would be interested to see how they all fit together.
Im very curious how the arwing would par against the tie defender elite. That thing was a beast and was to be equipped with just about everything you would need to take down any ship. Including shields the most powerful lazer canons, more missile capacity, and on top of it all it was far faster and had more movability than any other fighter. Even when crashing it did massive damage to star destroyers.
I'd also like to say the Arwing is a plausible design for an exoatmospheric fighter in a fully-Newtonian setting, with or without the magical tech that is the gravity diffuser.
Dude! Arwing is so damn cool . Didn't know about it . Thanx . The Arwing is very powerful yet I feel it would require extremely capable and excellent person to pilot it. Also do astromechs exist in StarFox ?
See, the thing about some sci fi is that it ignores science. G suits are irrelevant the moment you try to pretend FTL travel is a real thing. I know that's obvious, but a g suit is just way too scientific and real of a concept to belong in spaceships.
For looks, maneuverability, speed, firepower, versatility, and nostalgia, nothing will beat the Arwing. The X-Wing is awesome, don't get me wrong, but in lore and in-game, the Arwing is the king. It is an absolute menace to anything in front of it. Even though it is the image in the thumbnail, the SF Assault Arwing design that is most slept on variant; I am glad it was brought back for Battle for Atlas :) It is the Arwing design that really matches the size and shape of what you would expect from a true interstellar-capable heavy fighter. It is much larger than the reported size in the wiki, and rightfully so; it is almost the size of small cruisers, but much, much faster. I'll bet it is about the size of the Millennium Falcon in length and breadth, but much "taller". Great video; thanks for letting my favorite sci-fi starship take the limelight again :)
I remember someone actually made an in-universe starfighter in Star Wars that was a cross between the X-wing and the Arwing. If the Alliance ever had something like that, they would’ve hit the Empire a lot harder.
But.... They're basically the same thing? The only thing the Arwing really has over an X-wing are the overcharging laser's (I assume they're plasma like the X-wing, not actual laser) Problem with citing numbers is.... They're bs. Numbers don't lie, except when they're made up by people not thinking about ramifications.
I figured the Arwing would WRECK an Xwing in combat. -Relatively compact design (you can see this in perspective in Starfox Adventures and Assault. Bear in mind that Fox is 5'8"). -Has the ability to not only fly much faster in atmosphere but accelerate and deccelerate INSTANTLY without killing the pilot. Thats like putting rockets on a Porsche Taycan Turbo S (an already very fast car off the line). The G diffuser also would theoretically grant the ability to supermaneuver (dont know what it is, look it up). -Superior armament. The high power lasers fire in a much tighter spread, making the fact that you get only two and not four a moot point. But it DOES have a few flaws: -The roll maneuver that overcharges shields is disorienting and makes it difficult to track enemies. -Rear visibilty is obscured and the pilot would be more exposed by the glass canopy. The G diffuser units and rear positioning of the cockpit would also block some side visibility. -Because they're exclusively used by Starfox Team members, its easy for the enemy to identify. But this could also be used to intimidate the enemy. -Losing a wing disables the side lasers altogether and also negatively effects stability even in space for some reason. -No seperate counter measures to deal with missiles. But maybe you won't need chaff if you can either roll and have the magnetic field act like an ECM, or try to outmaneuver it. -And finally the fact that gamplay never has the Arwing come anywhere close to its established canon abilities.
>also negatively effects stability even in space for some reason Maybe wings house some secondary G-Diffuser components and losing them makes gravity alteration field uneven?
Arwing is my favourite, love that vehicle since the SNES I think it was on. Lylat wars is probably still my most played game. The only thing I’d say, is that the Arwing is the main protagonists in the games meaning it has lots of health and advantages. If you look at the Xwing piloted by the player in Roque Squadron it is just as good and you even single handed take out like 3 star destroyers in a Battle of Endor level, just like jet fighters in other games , you get far more missiles and can take more damage than the actual jet in real life.
Shame that the best version of that game is digital only so that you don’t lose upgrades by losing toys. Still, may as well be a love letter to Starfox 2, and despite being repetitive, was a lot of fun.
The arwing is one of Nintendo's most interesting underrated space vehicles, as it can decimate fleets, other underrated Nintendo space craft include the hunter gunship from Metroid, as this gunship is capable of being used via remote control via the varia suit to perform bombing runs, another feature is the following: whilst dogfighting, the occupant can lend their offense to the gunship and finally there is the Expy of the battleship of the holy imperium of man itself, capable of destroying the wish granting machine known as nova
I love the Arwing. The design of the Arwing could easily fit into a hard science fiction setting (minus the laser cannons), and is one of the few space ships I have seen that can reasonably preform in microgravity, and in most atmospheres.
I grew up with Lylat Wars and Star Wars Rogue Squadron on the N64. I think I like the X-WIng design more, but the Arwing is the ship I would pick over anything.
I would definitely like to see more about Star Fox and other game franchises on this channel. Very few breakdowns happen for games that aren’t Halo or too a lesser extent mass effect.
It's because many games don't give much detail on the ships, making proper breakdowns harder to do. The sci-fi franchises Halo and Mass Effect are exceptions because they do give a lot of lore in that regard. Metroid has a lot of lore but it's more confined to planetside creatures, bounty hunters, and aliens you have to fight. Not on vessels and fighters. Except maybe on Samus' personal gunship.
Put it this way; A T-65 X-Wing starfighter piloted by SW's best, Wedge Antilles VS Arwing 1(You can say 2, but I'm sticking to 1) pilot by Fox McCloud Wedge is 'god tier' on piloting skills in anything he flies. With or without the assist droid unit, Wedge can take on one on one dogfights along with space armadas. X-Wings, on the other hand ARE kind of weak. Think; If a Tie Fighter is a manual shift, then X-Wing is automatic. Without the assistance of a onboard droid, most starfighters would get decimated in the cold darkness of space. So the pilot inside counts for a lot! Fox isn't no slouch & has far more canon than is ever mentioned. Put him in a Arwing starfighter & you are asking for a 'quick death'. The Arwing doesn't look as menacing as the X-Wing, but it more than makes up for it. Adequate shielding, sturdy firepower & a smart bomb that clear a path of almost anything. & the flight capabilities are ridiculous & endless to list. Wedge would put up a long enough dogfight in space, air or near land/water. But once Fox gets tired of it, 'press that S/B' button & Wedge better jump hyperspace out of there or die trying.
Actually it would be more fair in a space fight. In an atmospheric battle its a ME-262 ace has a better chance of shooting down a F-22 pilot than Wedge does trying to shoot an arwing with an X-wing. The TIE Defender can't even fair better.
For me the X wing is only slightly more favorable because it has a hyperdrive, unlike the Arwing which needs the Great Fox to travel vast distances, I love both tho
And those distances are within the Lylat system. You need the orbital gate seen in assault to leave the system. But there is a galactic community in the star fox universe and in one of command's endings; Kursed (Krystal turned independent bounty hunter) takes extra-galactic bounties. So far FTL exist its just that the Arwing doesn't have it.
I'd love a video going into more Star Fox tech! Star Fox Assault I feel had some really interesting designs for its spaceships, guns and planets too, would be really cool to see!
OK, slight nitpick, the Arwing IS NOT A FLYING WING, it has a clear fuselage and wings, not the blended form requisite to be a flying wing, true examples would be the B-2 Stealth bomber, and Ace Combat 7's Arsenal Birds
Arwing. a lot of fond memories using it in Star Fox Adventures. also found it funny that the Arwing was a ship you could build in a Star Wars mod. it's a thing of beauty when the Arwing is on duty.
Favorite StarFox ships: Katt's catspaw, Krystal's Cloudrunner, and The Interceptor Arwing. Favorite StarWars ships: the B-Wing, ARC-170, and the TIE Avenger. I tend to prefer StarFox ships, given their simplistic angular look.
Funnily enough, Cornerian starfighters in Assault actually look a lot like V-Wings, which is quite the coincidence given that Assault and Revenge Of The Sith both came out in 2005.
I noticed you didn't cover the fact that the arwing (At least from 2 and Zero) can turn into a walker. With both laser and smart bomb capabilities intact.
I would have to disagree with the X-wing being the comparable fighter, and instead have compared it to the A-wing. 1.similar size profiles 2.similar armament capabilities 3. similar nimbleness and agility 4. The X-wing lacks any form of stealth or E-warfare suites to compare to the AR-wing's stealth systems, which , oddly enough, the A-wing has in the form of the 4X-Phantom short-range sensor jammer.
I personally think the PyroGX from the Descent games would be absolutely devastating in most other universes, if for no other reason than the sheer amount of whoopass it can carry on board (it must be bigger on the inside or equipped with a high-tech Bag of Holding. I'd be interesting in seeing how it compares to the X-wing or Arwing.
I'll do it here myself. In comparison to star wars warships, the great fox actually isn't all that great. It only has 2 heavy plasma cannons as offensive weapons. (Granted they're more powerful in star fox assault due to upgrades but it would take many shots to go through the shields of star wars capital ships.) The Battleship Halberd. (I'm assuming we're talking about the version in the games not the anime. Also let's use the brawl version as a reference since its the most detailed and future Kirby games use this model.) Well the role of such a ship is truly a role of supremacy. Meaning it's best used when there are no ships that are around or that surpass its power. (AKA vessels like the subspace gunship in SSBB or the access arc in KPR.) It has been believed that it has a count of 150 guns across its surface. Which depending on the game can use slug rounds or anti air flak artillery. It also has a fair targeting system. Both facts combined mean that it excels in going against small snub fighters by the use of a highly thick flak screen. Compared to other star wars vessels, this would be an absolute nightmare of a ship to go against with fighters but other capital ships would have an easier time dealing with it. The Halberd has no shields and uses slug weapon that don't go too much faster than the speed of sound. It could have a really hard time cracking through shielded vessels. And in star wars, there are some really large warships in the galaxy.
Starfox was my first big dive into the sci-fig genre, and still holds up as one of my personal favorites. Despite my love for star wars as well, the Arwing is probably my favorite starfighter of all time. I shudder to think what Anakin could do flying in an Arwing.
Well, Star Fox Zero is more of a re-telling of both Star Fox and Star Fox 64 soo yeah. Also, to be fair, he didn't mention both Adventure's and Assault's Arwings.
I heard the arwing before and its subclasses as despite its advanced tech equipped it is limited due to its high cost to make The X-wing other hand despite it slower speed it had more durability and twice the firepower and its cheaper to produce and can use in many numbers
Ive been an X-wing fan since A new hope....when Star Fox hit the scene...the Arwing stole my heart...It's design, its power and presence...(to me) The x-wing's appearance resembled that of a brave resistance fighter whereas the Arwing had the form of a dominant hero...worthy of insurmountable odds
I love the X wing, but you have to give the Arwing credit where it's due. Problem is, I thought the Arwings Starfox used were only as good as they were because Slippy had worked on them as opposed to coming straight from Space Dynamics. The two advantages I'd give the X wing over the Arwing is the fact that X wings come with a hyperdrive by default for FTL while the Arwings have to be carried into battle by a carrier. The other advantage is its ability to be produced and train pilots to fly it mucn easier then the Arwing's prototype status.
I give you that but there are some key differences on the uses for each fighter. The X-Wing has its use to fight in an intergalactic rebellion so not only do you need as many pilots as you can get, but many defected from the empire as well. So it is a bit easier to get pilots. The Arwing is used to fight an open intersystem war, with elite mercenaries doing precision strikes on enemy strongholds and destroying deadly super weapons while protecting vital assets and territory. Meaning in this instance, you don't need more pilots, you need a small team of some of the best pilots. Two different ships for different types of war. Also the technology in each is a bit different from both series. With star wars actually being less advanced than the star fox universe in most technologies excluding FTL. (Which I'll talk about right now.) By the time of the empire and onwards, hyperspace capable snub fighters were becoming greater and greater in importance. Before that, most star fighters didn't have hyperdrives like they do now. Even with the hyperdrives, if the X-Wing were to need to fight in the Lylat wars, hyperspace capability might not be so valuable. You need proper hyperlanes and a great distance between jumps and most of the time you can only exit 'safely' from hyperspace once you reach a certain point in a planet's gravitational influence. ( th-cam.com/video/Y2g7LUlL5Xg/w-d-xo.html ) (Precision jumps are actually really difficult and dangerous. A jump between one nearby system to another is considered very precise.) Simply put it, if the X-Wing were to be in the star fox universe, it too might need to rely on a carrier. With the Arwing, I see it performing better than usual in a strategic sense. Most fighters do rely on a carrier in star wars so if the star fox team could get their hands on such a vessel, they could do fine. Though it cannot be the Great Fox as it needs warp gates for proper FTL travel. FTL is kind of slow in that series. Granted there are ways to travel and even leave the galaxy, but for the sake of the games, it isn't important.
I think the Arwings had FTL by default, Star Fox simply chose to launch from the Great Fox to keep on top of maintenance. How else was Peppy able to return to Corneria after Pigma's betrayal. Remember, the team were using a leapfrog(World War 2 Pacific Theater Strategy)/blitzkrieg strategy in the Lylat System, you were constantly moving from one target to the next with no downtime between each battle(unless the plot demands it XD). If it was only the Arwings moving around the system any damage they incur will stack up after each battle, they would be whittled down to nothing. But if the Great Fox was nearby the Arwings can repair their damage while in transit to each planet. It's more pragmatic to launch from a carrier when using this style of strategy.
@@generaljimmies3429 I disagree. The only form of FTL we've seen in star fox are either warp zones like in 64 or the orbital gate in assault. It's more likely to me, someone friendly picked Peppy up. Even then, Pigma's betrayal has not been visualized. Also if star fox zero is an indicator, these arwings may have a relatively high relativistic speed. Seen when Wolf escapes the first battle in sector beta. th-cam.com/video/2Q7k69QPUEk/w-d-xo.html
The most often overlooked aspect of the Arwing is ironically overlooked here. The Arwing is *absurdly* durable. Its boosted shielding can withstand flying through a planet-cracking laser for 80% of its total blast. (The Gorgon Laser is described as a planet cracking weapon).
FINALLY!!!! Someone who acknowledges the Arwing's true power!
It's the TIE Defender elite of it's universe. Limited production run, best performance money can buy.
The average cornerian dog soldier gets something about as durable and strong as a tie fighters.
@@eps200 At least they're quieter.
HONESTLY.
@@ToonDoge The problem is that Arcade rail shooters are dead nowadays, because their so short.
The good news is that they still exist in indie games.
For games like SF 64 there's, Ex-Zodiac, Astrodogs, Gridd Retroenhanced, Whisker Squadron: Survivor, Project Nimbus: Complete Edition and Astebreed: Definitive Edition.
Xwing is cool but the Arwing is just cooler imo
Also this makes me want a star wars EoW Star fox mod lol
Imagine a Rogue Leader mod where you control an Arwing and can coordinate the Cornerian Army
The Star Fox universe needs more lore/EU content. Its a shame it's so underdeveloped
It's a complete shame. There aren't too many games on it and the lore is severely lacking. This franchise could be like the Nintendo version of Halo or Mass Effect in that regard but they choose not to do that. Metroid however is much more lore heavy.
@@marrqi7wini54 I read once somewhere that Star Fox, Metroid and F-Zero have a shared universe. Doubt it's actually cannon though.
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As cool as that would be, I don't think that's the case even though cameos are definitely a probably and them having a shared universe is not outside the realms of possibility. But I cannot verify that myself.
There's a fan written sequel story called "Sunrise Over Lylat" that manages to streamline nearly every game into a single time line, while providing tons of backstory and lore snippets to make the universe so much more expansive and rich. It's worth a read, even if updates have slowed over the past year or two.
The writing never gets stale, even after steady progress over 9 years of writing. The overall tone is your standard SF space shooty goodness with a huge infusion of both Ace Combat and Battlestar Galactica. I'd recommend the story to any fan of the Star Fox series.
Check out A Fox in Space, It's only one episode rn and progress on the second episode is meh. But it's a great adaptation of the storyline.
1. From a purely nostalgia standpoint: I would say X-Wing wins for me.
2. From a functional standpoint: Arwing, definitely. It just shreds everything.
3. From an appearance standpoint: I would say that's a tie for me. They're both really cool for their own reasons.
Also, I noticed you used some footage from Starlink: Battle for Atlas. You should cover that game a bit!
Definitely agree
well said. similar lines, but I like the arwing body just a bit better than the t65 x-wing. its a tie for the t70 x wing though. that ship is cool
@@stefanreindel9888 Agreed. I will say I like how the Arwing is super sleek looking, while the X-Wing (especially the T-65) is a little chunkier. Also, the pivoting wings and dual G-diffusers of the Arwing kinda remind me of the F-14 Tomcat, which is pretty neat
Yes Starlink is such a underrated game
I concur with Obi-Wan Canoli, tho I do have a major desire to keep my legs fully intact. So I'd probably go pilot an X-Wing over an Arwing
Yeah Eck ya forgot about that oh so little detail that most if not all Arwing pilots have to go through, They gotta have their lower legs SAWED! off and mechanical ones put on to prevent the G-Diffuser system from killing the pilot!
Honestly, I wish I could pilot an Arwing, only partially because Star Fox 64 is my favorite game of all time, but they are just so cool and have such a sleek design
The Arwung is one of my favorite starships. Even from just an aesthetic standpoint it’s amazing
honestly, i would love to hear about every. single. star fox ship. star fox is my most favourite thing ever and has been a big part of my childhood and life. seeing and hearing and learning about all the ships would be the sickest thing ever
By this logic, the Wolfen would soon become the fighter of choice for the empires which would want to expand their area faster, as the lasers are much more powerful than the Arwings and its Hunter form is faster than the Walker. The Arwing would probably be the fighter of choice for peacekeeping organizations, and it’s also gonna be used on the offensive just as much as its shields are superior(to the Wolfen). Ultimately, the Arwing would ruin Star Wars and the Wolfen would ruin it even more.
Hey, what's the worst that can happen than what has already happened?
Interested in covering the alternative builds of the Wolfen, the Hunter is definitely a decent talking point.
- Charlie
P LL I don’t quite understand what you’re saying.
EcksToo Not to forget the Wolfen II, which is the most elite ship in Andross’ Hangar and likely the most OP starfighter in all of Star Fox.
@@Tartarus144 and extremely difficult to fight against because of the arena, and the Wolfen II's improvements including the ability to summersault.
Though the ship would fit much better in a space setting than an atmospheric one.
Just some food for thought: at 1:15, when discussing armaments, it's mentioned the Arwing has T&B laser cannons.
Many ships in Star Wars carry Taim & Bak Laser cannons...
Let that sink in for a moment. Enjoy!
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with that information
@@Tjerty Possibly a Star Wars reference in Star Fox...
Arwing : they said i'm too OP!
K-wing : first time?
Tie Defender : you’re both a bunch of wusses!
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Wolfen II: _AMATEURS!_
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You have to realize a defender going against the arwing is pretty much the same as a ME-262 going against an F-22. That ship is practically busted compared to any star fighter in star wars.
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Tie defender is all In one
I like both but for different reasons but I would choose the X-wing
@@plaguemaster308 Personally I prefer the TIE Hunter myself.
Many ships in star wars especially in numbers would easily defeat the ARWing
To me, the thing that makes the Arwing a cut above even my beloved TIE Defender (Legends) and T-70 is that it's got both the durability, firepower, and low-speed manouverability of an A-10 (in spaaaaaaace) AND the high speed performance and small target profile of an A-Wing.
Put an R2 socket in the Arwing and it becomes bloody perfect.
The ARWing is a fantastic example of a multipurpose starfighter
As much as I love the X-Wing I’ve always loved the design of the Arwing more, I’ve always been a sucker for angular designs.
By most standards, especially one on one the ArWing would win simply due to its more versatile and cost effectiveness. The X-wing would perform better however in the aspects of durability, longevity, and the significantly lower costs (seeing as how the ArWing was sent out in extremely limited numbers at first). ArWings also needed constant upgrades to keep them in the pinnacle of operating conditions.
In short: ArWing simply would win 9/10 times in a one on one dogfight but in terms of performance in an all out war where experienced pilots are often times a luxury the X-Wing would win merely due to its drastically lower costs, durability, and most of all sheer longevity (given that proper maintenance for their fighters was a luxury at best for the Rebels, this lends them bonus points in that department.)
The Arwing can take hits from capital ships and keep flying: the X-Wing isn't beating it in durability.
Essentially, the arwing is a better choice for a small mercenary group, but the X-Wing is the better choice for an army.
Its Arwing, not ARwing pls edit. It infuriates my soul lmao, but yeah Arwing's the choice to go for an Elite group, and X-wings are more on an infantry level. Something to keep in mind (which I've put on my own comment along side some of Arwing's history and lore) is that G-Diffusors need EXTRA care and handling otherwise they fail and explode. However you are wrong in that durability thing. Arwing is simply WAY superior than an X-wing in every single aspect.
The Arwing will always be my favorite.
The Arwing actually has allot of interesting history to it and the heart of it's success and troublesome design comes from it's Gravity Diffusion system that it uses not only as a power source but also to bend the laws of physics. For most space craft the idea of inertia Dampening to reduce the stress of gravity on both pilot and ship is nothing new however G-Diffusion allowed a pilot to reduce its effects but also to control Gravity forces against it.
The first model Arwing and the most famous in Starfox and 64 had the first hybrid G-diffusion system installed making it a space superiority fighterWhile early versions used a hydrogen fuel system this was replaced by Starfox assualt for a full G-diffusion system like the Wolfen-II in 64 allowing it even greater control and has actually a wide variety of different models and types that fit different roles.
Expensive and complicated to fly it shares allot in common with the X-wing but over all it's design is a beast and its development in the Cornaria air force is much like going from a P-51 mustang to an F-15 allowing a long range multi-role fighter to hit deep into enemy territory pretty much unmatched.
It is probably no accident though that these two ships share the basic profile, mission specs and transformation features that likely helped create the Arwing we know today. From humble Triangle polygons to sleek state of the art war machine, if Luke Skywalker was a furry fox there is no doubt he would feel right at home in an Arwing.
Arwing all the way but the X-wing is certainly the roots to its Iconic look and nature.
Huh...didn't know the Arwing was that powerful.
Next you should do a comparison of the capital ships in both universes. I'd like to know how an ISD or MC80 holds out to Star Fox universe equivalents
the Great Fox only has a single pair of heavy vcanons...so wouldn't expect much.
All you need to do is watch the Great Fox in Thrawns Revenge. That was balanced absolutely correctly.
Being a Nintendo franchise lore isn’t a high priority so not much for any real stats for the ships that you don’t fly as. Most of the capital ships in the games seem like the equivalent to well armed Star Wars frigates. Well expect for the Planet betrayer in Star Fox two that kinda looks like a Harrower from the old republic except it came first and has super laser in the realm of the Mandator 4 to eclipse dreadnaught.
@@attilathehun5067 do you have a link for that video? Thanks
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Yeah in the warship department, the star fox universe is lacking there. In area 6 (SF64), most of those warships seem to be small, lightly armed, and lightly armored. Along with no shielding. They wouldn't last too long against imperial ships. And in Assault and Zero the firepower has increased (In assault the range and rate of fire is greatly increased and zero, individual ships have absurdly powerful beams of plasma that they fire.) but most ships have still have no shielding. Not to mention Venom ships have laughable overexposed weak points. In zero Venom super ships like the Granbe (With its shields. Which I think is the most capable ship in the Lylat system to fight imperial ships.) and the Salvadora with its 12ish heavy plasma canons could do the most damage. And the area 6 boss in 64 would probably also be a large threat with its laser, large amounts of missiles and phasing tech.
The one thing to note that the X-wing has over the Arwing, is the Arwing does NOT have a faster-than-light drive, while the X-wing does.
I like to think that if the Arwing existed in Star Wars, its unusual power could be explained by them being outfitted with Kyber Crystals for energy amplification. Extremely expensive, and the reason why Arwings never saw mass production.
Thank you for the nostalgia trip. I used to play StarFox 64 for hours as a kid, one of the few games I ever completed 100%
the ar-wing seems more like an equivalent to the tie defender. It's an incredibly powerful and incredibly complex super fighter that never went into production because of all the hyper advanced space magic that went into making it.
It's actually far superior to the defender. In fact, if you replaced all Venom fighters with the defender, you'll more less get the same result. Overall Cornerian victory. Even if the arwing's pilot was slippy.
The only real threat I see to the arwing from fighters from star wars is the missile boat from TIE fighter. And only in space. In atmosphere, the arwing will go completely unchallenged.
Honestly, the Arwing is a no brainer for the better fighter. The problem comes from the fact you need an ace pilot to really make the most of it, and an ace tech to keep it in peak performance. X-wings require much less maintenance and skill, making them much cheaper and easier to field for a navy.
You mentioned the upgraded Cornarian fighter, and while it's true its design was based on the Arwing, its durability, power, and cost were much reduced. I think a comparison between it and the X-wing would be more interesting- at least, if we had more data on the Star Fox side of things.
Very interesting, I'd love to see some exploration into some of the enemies from the stream gameplay, they are very unique, and I would be interested to see how they all fit together.
In terms of appearance and functionality i prefer the Arwing, though X-Wing gets bonus points for allowing for self repair via Astromech Droid.
2:00 We actually do see the Arwings flying at least this fast in Star Fox 64 when you take the warp in either Meteo or Sector Y
Great video. Didn't to mention that the Arwing also gained multi-lock charged lasers and even sideways firing in Star Fox Zero.
Hey Eck & Co., how about an analysis of the Great Fox? I feel like it would be a match for a Nebulon B but it is presented so differently.
Im very curious how the arwing would par against the tie defender elite. That thing was a beast and was to be equipped with just about everything you would need to take down any ship. Including shields the most powerful lazer canons, more missile capacity, and on top of it all it was far faster and had more movability than any other fighter. Even when crashing it did massive damage to star destroyers.
If I were to guess, you could probably replace all the enemies with TIE Defenders of any iteration, and not much would change for your game play.
I'd also like to say the Arwing is a plausible design for an exoatmospheric fighter in a fully-Newtonian setting, with or without the magical tech that is the gravity diffuser.
Dude! Arwing is so damn cool . Didn't know about it . Thanx . The Arwing is very powerful yet I feel it would require extremely capable and excellent person to pilot it. Also do astromechs exist in StarFox ?
ROB 64 could be considered an Astromech that controls the flagship 'Great Fox', but has a much larger role than just an astromech!
- Charlie
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I wouldn't consider ROB 64 as something like an astromech but more a kin to a normal humanoid shaped droid. More or less like C3PO or a B1.
@@EcksToo Oh thanx again for the totally awesome info. Gonna dig deeper into the Starfox universe now
Well, there's Slippy Toad
@@Assh__141 Hope you do! Although not that big compared to Star Wars, the lore is sure deep and the games have lots of fun!
Has to be ArWing as my favorite just kinda wonder what kind of g suit you'd have to use to even fly one
Well you can’t even have you natural legs if you want to fly one, that should give you a good idea.
The whole point is that the g diffusers take care of that lmao that's why it's so maneuverable
A byproduct of the G-Diffusion System is that it protects the pilot from G-Forces among other advantages.
See, the thing about some sci fi is that it ignores science. G suits are irrelevant the moment you try to pretend FTL travel is a real thing. I know that's obvious, but a g suit is just way too scientific and real of a concept to belong in spaceships.
@@nickthecynic587 reason I said kinda wonder I know all about the g diffusers Im just weird like that I wonder about random things like that
For looks, maneuverability, speed, firepower, versatility, and nostalgia, nothing will beat the Arwing. The X-Wing is awesome, don't get me wrong, but in lore and in-game, the Arwing is the king. It is an absolute menace to anything in front of it.
Even though it is the image in the thumbnail, the SF Assault Arwing design that is most slept on variant; I am glad it was brought back for Battle for Atlas :) It is the Arwing design that really matches the size and shape of what you would expect from a true interstellar-capable heavy fighter. It is much larger than the reported size in the wiki, and rightfully so; it is almost the size of small cruisers, but much, much faster. I'll bet it is about the size of the Millennium Falcon in length and breadth, but much "taller".
Great video; thanks for letting my favorite sci-fi starship take the limelight again :)
I remember someone actually made an in-universe starfighter in Star Wars that was a cross between the X-wing and the Arwing. If the Alliance ever had something like that, they would’ve hit the Empire a lot harder.
But.... They're basically the same thing?
The only thing the Arwing really has over an X-wing are the overcharging laser's (I assume they're plasma like the X-wing, not actual laser)
Problem with citing numbers is.... They're bs. Numbers don't lie, except when they're made up by people not thinking about ramifications.
The U-Wing has the X-Wing's engines and the Arwing's wing layout when they're swept back...
Arwing, %100
Definitely up there in the whole "overlooked" and "underrated" category, but what a beast of a machine!
I figured the Arwing would WRECK an Xwing in combat.
-Relatively compact design (you can see this in perspective in Starfox Adventures and Assault. Bear in mind that Fox is 5'8").
-Has the ability to not only fly much faster in atmosphere but accelerate and deccelerate INSTANTLY without killing the pilot. Thats like putting rockets on a Porsche Taycan Turbo S (an already very fast car off the line). The G diffuser also would theoretically grant the ability to supermaneuver (dont know what it is, look it up).
-Superior armament. The high power lasers fire in a much tighter spread, making the fact that you get only two and not four a moot point.
But it DOES have a few flaws:
-The roll maneuver that overcharges shields is disorienting and makes it difficult to track enemies.
-Rear visibilty is obscured and the pilot would be more exposed by the glass canopy. The G diffuser units and rear positioning of the cockpit would also block some side visibility.
-Because they're exclusively used by Starfox Team members, its easy for the enemy to identify. But this could also be used to intimidate the enemy.
-Losing a wing disables the side lasers altogether and also negatively effects stability even in space for some reason.
-No seperate counter measures to deal with missiles. But maybe you won't need chaff if you can either roll and have the magnetic field act like an ECM, or try to outmaneuver it.
-And finally the fact that gamplay never has the Arwing come anywhere close to its established canon abilities.
>also negatively effects stability even in space for some reason
Maybe wings house some secondary G-Diffuser components and losing them makes gravity alteration field uneven?
You can spin in circles for days and armies will fall.
Anakin's dream ship
I mean it's a pretty neat trick
Arwing is my favourite, love that vehicle since the SNES I think it was on. Lylat wars is probably still my most played game.
The only thing I’d say, is that the Arwing is the main protagonists in the games meaning it has lots of health and advantages. If you look at the Xwing piloted by the player in Roque Squadron it is just as good and you even single handed take out like 3 star destroyers in a Battle of Endor level, just like jet fighters in other games , you get far more missiles and can take more damage than the actual jet in real life.
Love the footage from starlink, super game that more people need to know exists
Shame that the best version of that game is digital only so that you don’t lose upgrades by losing toys. Still, may as well be a love letter to Starfox 2, and despite being repetitive, was a lot of fun.
I still play that game. I've played through with all members of Star Fox.
I'm still waiting on the Collection 2 to ho on sale on PSN. $50 for that content is a little steep.
Arwing hands down for me. In fact, Star Fox 64 was the game that got me into gaming in the first place. I was blown away by it as a kid.
If Arwings would ruin the Star Wars fighters, I bet the R-Type series ships would be the nuke.
Reminds me of when my classmates in 4th grade would make giant paper Arwings back when starfox 64 came out.
Arspace Dynamics really knocked it out of the part with their star fighter.
Imagine what Luke or Anakin Skywalker could archive with an Arwing at their disposal.
DONT MESS UP THAT AREWING !
Me: what about the Lwing ? XDXdX
Mainly Luke
Harbingers of death. That's what you get.
Luke would be the new Fox. Lol
X-wing is iconic. However I've always preferred the Arwing, because to me it's more nostalgic. It looks sick
The Arwing looks sleek and able to flight while the X-Wings wings look boxy and unable to fly.
I love the Arwing. It's got to be my favorite star fighter in all of sci-fi. Especially its design in Starfox Assault. Such a gorgeous ship.
Where'd y'all find that Arwing diagram @0:19? Also, I'm always happy to find Star Fox content from folks that like to talk ship
The arwing is one of Nintendo's most interesting underrated space vehicles, as it can decimate fleets, other underrated Nintendo space craft include the hunter gunship from Metroid, as this gunship is capable of being used via remote control via the varia suit to perform bombing runs, another feature is the following: whilst dogfighting, the occupant can lend their offense to the gunship and finally there is the Expy of the battleship of the holy imperium of man itself, capable of destroying the wish granting machine known as nova
I love the Arwing.
The design of the Arwing could easily fit into a hard science fiction setting (minus the laser cannons), and is one of the few space ships I have seen that can reasonably preform in microgravity, and in most atmospheres.
Well the microgravity and G-diffuser are a bit far fetched.
Fair enough.
One thing an X Wing can't do the Arwing can : sprout legs.
I grew up with Lylat Wars and Star Wars Rogue Squadron on the N64. I think I like the X-WIng design more, but the Arwing is the ship I would pick over anything.
I would definitely like to see more about Star Fox and other game franchises on this channel. Very few breakdowns happen for games that aren’t Halo or too a lesser extent mass effect.
It's because many games don't give much detail on the ships, making proper breakdowns harder to do. The sci-fi franchises Halo and Mass Effect are exceptions because they do give a lot of lore in that regard. Metroid has a lot of lore but it's more confined to planetside creatures, bounty hunters, and aliens you have to fight. Not on vessels and fighters. Except maybe on Samus' personal gunship.
Put it this way;
A T-65 X-Wing starfighter piloted by SW's best, Wedge Antilles
VS
Arwing 1(You can say 2, but I'm sticking to 1) pilot by Fox McCloud
Wedge is 'god tier' on piloting skills in anything he flies. With or without the assist droid unit, Wedge can take on one on one dogfights along with space armadas. X-Wings, on the other hand ARE kind of weak. Think; If a Tie Fighter is a manual shift, then X-Wing is automatic. Without the assistance of a onboard droid, most starfighters would get decimated in the cold darkness of space. So the pilot inside counts for a lot!
Fox isn't no slouch & has far more canon than is ever mentioned. Put him in a Arwing starfighter & you are asking for a 'quick death'. The Arwing doesn't look as menacing as the X-Wing, but it more than makes up for it. Adequate shielding, sturdy firepower & a smart bomb that clear a path of almost anything. & the flight capabilities are ridiculous & endless to list.
Wedge would put up a long enough dogfight in space, air or near land/water. But once Fox gets tired of it, 'press that S/B' button & Wedge better jump hyperspace out of there or die trying.
Love the comparison. Was a great read!
- Charlie
Actually it would be more fair in a space fight. In an atmospheric battle its a ME-262 ace has a better chance of shooting down a F-22 pilot than Wedge does trying to shoot an arwing with an X-wing. The TIE Defender can't even fair better.
For me the X wing is only slightly more favorable because it has a hyperdrive, unlike the Arwing which needs the Great Fox to travel vast distances, I love both tho
And those distances are within the Lylat system. You need the orbital gate seen in assault to leave the system. But there is a galactic community in the star fox universe and in one of command's endings; Kursed (Krystal turned independent bounty hunter) takes extra-galactic bounties. So far FTL exist its just that the Arwing doesn't have it.
Arwing without a doubt, I always dreamed of piloting an Arwing!
The Arwing has always been my favourite ship across films & games. Simple, highly manoeuvrable and just so cool looking.
I'd love a video going into more Star Fox tech! Star Fox Assault I feel had some really interesting designs for its spaceships, guns and planets too, would be really cool to see!
The Arwing is like a Super Star Fighter to the X-Wings "Real" Star Fighter.
You forgot to mention that the arwing has a furry inside while the x-wing does not!
The Arwing from Star Fox Assault is my favorite variant and my favorite fighter in all of fiction is the Viking from Starcraft 2.
More Star Fox fighters?
Yes, please!
OK, slight nitpick, the Arwing IS NOT A FLYING WING, it has a clear fuselage and wings, not the blended form requisite to be a flying wing, true examples would be the B-2 Stealth bomber, and Ace Combat 7's Arsenal Birds
Tie-Defender is my star fighter of choice.
Ah yes. One of the deadliest star fighters in star wars. Just be sure to keep it in star wars.
Truth be told, I like a lot of spaceship designs but the Arwing is by far easily the most OP starfighter that isn't a dues ex machina
Don't forget about the Star Fox Command version being used UNDER water in Aquas.
I really like the Arwings a lot.
Arwing. a lot of fond memories using it in Star Fox Adventures.
also found it funny that the Arwing was a ship you could build in a Star Wars mod. it's a thing of beauty when the Arwing is on duty.
Favorite StarFox ships: Katt's catspaw, Krystal's Cloudrunner, and The Interceptor Arwing.
Favorite StarWars ships: the B-Wing, ARC-170, and the TIE Avenger.
I tend to prefer StarFox ships, given their simplistic angular look.
I like how the ArWing looks somewhat like a heavily modified Clone Wars Era V-Wing
Funnily enough, Cornerian starfighters in Assault actually look a lot like V-Wings, which is quite the coincidence given that Assault and Revenge Of The Sith both came out in 2005.
I noticed you didn't cover the fact that the arwing (At least from 2 and Zero) can turn into a walker. With both laser and smart bomb capabilities intact.
I would have to disagree with the X-wing being the comparable fighter, and instead have compared it to the A-wing.
1.similar size profiles
2.similar armament capabilities
3. similar nimbleness and agility
4. The X-wing lacks any form of stealth or E-warfare suites to compare to the AR-wing's stealth systems, which , oddly enough, the A-wing has in the form of the 4X-Phantom short-range sensor jammer.
Uh....but haven't you forgotten that the Arwing also can perform as a ground vehicle by making a mode change or am I mixing something up here?
Yes, you're right! It's seen in Starfox 2 and Starfox Zero!
- Charlie
So the only way an X-Wing could put up a fight against an Arwing, is if the X-Wing was piloted by Luke Skywalker.
Commenting before watching the vídeo: GO ARWING!!!!!!
I prefer the Arwing over the X-wing myself and I love both ships!
I personally think the PyroGX from the Descent games would be absolutely devastating in most other universes, if for no other reason than the sheer amount of whoopass it can carry on board (it must be bigger on the inside or equipped with a high-tech Bag of Holding. I'd be interesting in seeing how it compares to the X-wing or Arwing.
The Arwing is one of my absolute favorite star fighters of all time, just… amazing design, and amazing build.
Oooo I love the idea for this video!
I would love to see something like the Battleship Halberd or Great Fox compared to a Star Wars capital ship.
Imagine a comparisson between Andros and the Death Star😂😂😂
Space Battleship Yamato?
I'll do it here myself. In comparison to star wars warships, the great fox actually isn't all that great. It only has 2 heavy plasma cannons as offensive weapons. (Granted they're more powerful in star fox assault due to upgrades but it would take many shots to go through the shields of star wars capital ships.)
The Battleship Halberd. (I'm assuming we're talking about the version in the games not the anime. Also let's use the brawl version as a reference since its the most detailed and future Kirby games use this model.) Well the role of such a ship is truly a role of supremacy. Meaning it's best used when there are no ships that are around or that surpass its power. (AKA vessels like the subspace gunship in SSBB or the access arc in KPR.) It has been believed that it has a count of 150 guns across its surface. Which depending on the game can use slug rounds or anti air flak artillery. It also has a fair targeting system. Both facts combined mean that it excels in going against small snub fighters by the use of a highly thick flak screen.
Compared to other star wars vessels, this would be an absolute nightmare of a ship to go against with fighters but other capital ships would have an easier time dealing with it. The Halberd has no shields and uses slug weapon that don't go too much faster than the speed of sound. It could have a really hard time cracking through shielded vessels. And in star wars, there are some really large warships in the galaxy.
Marrqi7 wini Appreciate the analysis!
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I can talk about the anime version if you'd like.
Since I remember a time before the Arwing existed, the X wing has always held a place in my heart.
That thing looks like something straight out of a Nintendo 64 game from the late 90s
It is
yeah it was. Rogue squadron, a game which featured the x-wing as its main fighter, was exclusive to the n64 fora number of years.
It is. Star Fox 64 was 1997 and Star Wars Rogue Squadron was 1998.
I'm pretty sure the x-wing is faster at 100 megalight which is like faster than light
Starfox was my first big dive into the sci-fig genre, and still holds up as one of my personal favorites. Despite my love for star wars as well, the Arwing is probably my favorite starfighter of all time. I shudder to think what Anakin could do flying in an Arwing.
Arwing is my favorite. I always had a soft spot for the simple poly version from SNES. They are a joy to fly in SF64!
I've never played Star Fox, but seeing this gameplay, I understand now why it's still such a name!
Kinda wish there was a _Star Wars_ Switch game with some _Star Fox_ DLC so Arwings could appear alongside X-Wings.
Absolutely do more star fox content.
Broo their design is so cool!
the wolfen 2 is cool. but it is no match for a single Arwing flying in a circle spamming its laser cannons.
He didn't even _mention_ the Arwing that can transform into a walker.
Well, Star Fox Zero is more of a re-telling of both Star Fox and Star Fox 64 soo yeah. Also, to be fair, he didn't mention both Adventure's and Assault's Arwings.
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In star fox 2, the arwing also had a walker mode.
@@marrqi7wini54 not cannon, therefore it didn't happen
The Arwing was my favorite to use in Starlink.
I heard the arwing before and its subclasses as despite its advanced tech equipped it is limited due to its high cost to make
The X-wing other hand despite it slower speed it had more durability and twice the firepower and its cheaper to produce and can use in many numbers
Tie Defender. I don't deal with rebel scum
^^ this, so much this!
Ar-wing! I played Star Fox 64 for the first time on the original xbox when we had download class in school.
Ive been an X-wing fan since A new hope....when Star Fox hit the scene...the Arwing stole my heart...It's design, its power and presence...(to me) The x-wing's appearance resembled that of a brave resistance fighter whereas the Arwing had the form of a dominant hero...worthy of insurmountable odds
Arwing for sure! Something about its design seems so intuitive and sexy at the same time. I'd definitely paint it black and tan. Space Shiba!
I love the X wing, but you have to give the Arwing credit where it's due. Problem is, I thought the Arwings Starfox used were only as good as they were because Slippy had worked on them as opposed to coming straight from Space Dynamics. The two advantages I'd give the X wing over the Arwing is the fact that X wings come with a hyperdrive by default for FTL while the Arwings have to be carried into battle by a carrier. The other advantage is its ability to be produced and train pilots to fly it mucn easier then the Arwing's prototype status.
I give you that but there are some key differences on the uses for each fighter.
The X-Wing has its use to fight in an intergalactic rebellion so not only do you need as many pilots as you can get, but many defected from the empire as well. So it is a bit easier to get pilots.
The Arwing is used to fight an open intersystem war, with elite mercenaries doing precision strikes on enemy strongholds and destroying deadly super weapons while protecting vital assets and territory. Meaning in this instance, you don't need more pilots, you need a small team of some of the best pilots.
Two different ships for different types of war.
Also the technology in each is a bit different from both series. With star wars actually being less advanced than the star fox universe in most technologies excluding FTL. (Which I'll talk about right now.) By the time of the empire and onwards, hyperspace capable snub fighters were becoming greater and greater in importance. Before that, most star fighters didn't have hyperdrives like they do now. Even with the hyperdrives, if the X-Wing were to need to fight in the Lylat wars, hyperspace capability might not be so valuable. You need proper hyperlanes and a great distance between jumps and most of the time you can only exit 'safely' from hyperspace once you reach a certain point in a planet's gravitational influence. ( th-cam.com/video/Y2g7LUlL5Xg/w-d-xo.html ) (Precision jumps are actually really difficult and dangerous. A jump between one nearby system to another is considered very precise.) Simply put it, if the X-Wing were to be in the star fox universe, it too might need to rely on a carrier.
With the Arwing, I see it performing better than usual in a strategic sense. Most fighters do rely on a carrier in star wars so if the star fox team could get their hands on such a vessel, they could do fine. Though it cannot be the Great Fox as it needs warp gates for proper FTL travel. FTL is kind of slow in that series. Granted there are ways to travel and even leave the galaxy, but for the sake of the games, it isn't important.
I think the Arwings had FTL by default, Star Fox simply chose to launch from the Great Fox to keep on top of maintenance. How else was Peppy able to return to Corneria after Pigma's betrayal.
Remember, the team were using a leapfrog(World War 2 Pacific Theater Strategy)/blitzkrieg strategy in the Lylat System, you were constantly moving from one target to the next with no downtime between each battle(unless the plot demands it XD).
If it was only the Arwings moving around the system any damage they incur will stack up after each battle, they would be whittled down to nothing.
But if the Great Fox was nearby the Arwings can repair their damage while in transit to each planet. It's more pragmatic to launch from a carrier when using this style of strategy.
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I disagree. The only form of FTL we've seen in star fox are either warp zones like in 64 or the orbital gate in assault. It's more likely to me, someone friendly picked Peppy up. Even then, Pigma's betrayal has not been visualized.
Also if star fox zero is an indicator, these arwings may have a relatively high relativistic speed. Seen when Wolf escapes the first battle in sector beta.
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Please more of the Star Fox ship variants