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THE AGONIST - The Hunt (Official Video) | Napalm Records
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
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Montreal Metal - a seal of approval to be reckoned with: the perfect breeding ground for bands looking for a rather menacing wall of sound! Next to Despised Icon, Beneath The Massacre and Cryptopsy THE AGONIST seem to be designed to make it all the way to the top of the extreme metal scene with their fine-tuned mixture of melodic death metal and metalcore. “Five” makes the exceptional position of the Canadian fivepiece even clearer - as well as its goal to escape all things ordinary. Ever since singer Vicky Psarakis joined the group in 2014, THE AGONIST `s knack for touching melodies became much stronger (just give the lascivious ‘The raven eyes’ a whirl), and flirting with alternative rock turned into a habit. Still, there is enough palpable aggression in the air that discharges in technical death metal solos, beastly growls and massive breakdowns. THE AGONIST keep the throne of all things luscious, catchy yet indefinitely brutal!
Produced and mixed by Mike Plotnikoff @ West Valley Studios
Mastered by Maor Appelbaum @ Maor Appelbaum Mastering
I really don't understand why some of you "hardcore fans" are hating on Vicky. A band is a band. Alissa left The Agonist and joined Arch Enemy. GO follow Arch Enemy if you "hate Vicky". She is a sweetheart and so are all the other guys in the bands! Haters, go hate elsewhere. This is Metal. *drops mic*
Boys kicked Alissa out of the band. She had planned everything out to be able to work on both projects and informed about the whole AE deal to the whole band before doing anything. Alissa was contacted by AE, Alissa was focusing on The Agonist from start to finish.
I don't like Alissa on AE, but I loved her on The Agonist.
Read the articles man. These guys backstabbed her so bad.
@@mattirundelin1430 If by planning everything out to be able to work in both bands you mean a skin the agonist to cancel tours and even their first European festival shows then yes she had it all planned out. She expected the boys in the agonist to basically put their musical careers on hold for her, and kept them completely in the dark about joining Arch Enemy. Also she lied to the Agonist's record label and went behind their back and told them her band mates were OK with all this.
@@mattirundelin1430 It's all here in the bands telling of the situation. loudwire.com/the-agonist-fire-back-alissa-white-gluz/
@@mattirundelin1430 Like Eddie above said, read Danny Marino's side of the story. Even on festivals where both AE and Agonist were booked, AE were forcing The Agonist to cancel.
AE is a Mother and The Agonist is a Daughter
It's not that Alissa is better than Vicky or not, it's people simply hate when things change, The Agonist fans miss Alissa, Arch Enemy fans miss Angela, Nightwish fans miss Tarja, Kamelot fans miss Khan although in my opinion, non of those bands have negatively changed due to changing their vocalists... They're all awesome!
yeah because a lot of fans can't move on and just enjoy music. They all have to be judges and act like they know everything about music.
No its that Alyssa is much better.
you got all the reason Sir!!
The same with AC/DC, when Dave Evans left the group Bon Scott took over and led the group to stardom. When he died Brian Johnson took over, and a lot of die-hard Bon fans decried it as though it wasn't AC/DC anymore, but he proved them wrong. The same goes when Axl Rose took over while Brian was recovering from his hearing loss, people said he would bring AC/DC to ruin, but they were wrong. And now Brian's back and the band is ready to cut another record. Whether you like AC/DC or Arch Enemy or The Agonist or Nightwish, as long as the overall sound doesn't change, it's still the same band, and people will go to concerts if they know it's the band they wanna hear.
Except that new guy in Kamelot sounds 99% like Khan so it's no big deal. Lmao
I love this song. But, I must say. Her scream vocals have drastically improved since this song was released. Vicky has definitely proven herself
Ever since Vicky came into the picture, The Agonist has experimented with more melody and variety. which is pretty damn good.
I love Vicky's voice, the combination of clean vocals and growls, it matches perfectly, and I'm proud to say that The Agonist is still an awesome, heavy band!!
honestly her clean vocals and her screams are amazing and i dont see why people are complaining about her screams i think they sound fine
Even when she's clean singing in this song, her vocals are just as intense as the harsh vocals! Wow what a set of pipes she has!
I love Alyssa as much as the next guy but the clean to growl vocal ratio of Vicky are perfect for me. I love the new Agonist.
I've been a fan since The Agonist's first album, and although I was skeptical with the change of vocalist from Alyssa to Vicky, the evolution of the band is just getting better and better. I've been counting the days to this album ever since I found out they were coming out with a new album. The hype is real
How has the evolution gotten better when there's no evolution this is a simple and plain regression in their style. The progressiveness left with the heart of the band 2 years ago honestly. Now why I think the new album has moments in it it just fails to leave an impression and could be consider the worst album in their discography possibly. The album leaked like two weeks ago you can go and hear it for yourself if you want.
Samer T.
Must be talking to the girl because I already heard it isn't gonna make a difference to me. I still like the band just not their new direction. So don't make it out to seem like I'm trying to be the villain or something because I'm not.
change is good though
Both vocalists are fantastic. Leave it at that.
if only there were more people like you!
...and less people like you.
+BirdsElopeWithTheSun Bands changes and that's all...
Agreed its like metallica vs megadeth all over again, i know not the same genre the two combinations compared ,both are great in my opinion i do prefer megadeth tho but don't compare them like one is good and other sucks, both the singers of the agonist were/are good, i do prefer alissa but this new chick gives er
Yep....I agree with you. Mainly because I also prefer Megadeth to Metallica. But I do like Vicky over Alissa. That's my only disagreement. No disrespect intended though.
oooh Vicky Psarakis..One of My Favorites..
Vicky and Agonist : Alissa and Arch Enemy bravissimo!
The whole scenery in this video is beatiful
I think the change of Alissa to Vicky made the band different. Maybe less aggressive/powerful. Maybe a little more easy to listen on a day job. Not better, not worse, just a different band. And I kinda like it.
Gonna be controversial here and say I think this is the best Agonist album yet, including the ones with Alissa. Vicky fucking nails it.
I see comments on this saying the screams are bad, I'm just gonna assume they're all jokes. Or people from another universe accidentally switching over when commenting on a different video. This girl puts even Angela Gossow to shame at times, she is nothing but amazing.
Vicky actually does bring a certain refreshing and new force to the table. I kinda see the rest of the guys more comfortable with her around and that makes me happy. They're doing their thing and who cares? Just enjoy it!
Don't kill me for saying this. I prefer Vicky
Raging Finn
Agree
@@Sayuku_P Screaming is stupid. Nuff said
You get to live this time lol
You do you, but I personally preferred Alyssa’s growl over Vicky’s
K
AMAZING, as always! The Agonist' new sound is better, Vicky's voice is having a good process on this new album. It's different from EOP, a little bit. I like this new stuff very much! They know that I've been their fan since many years ago, I've been supporting them because I like their music a lot, Vicky is amazing and just came to give the band a good change. The Agonist is one of those bands that do what they do, you like it anyway because they have that power and strenght in every single song you listen to. I AM SO PROUD OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS. #FIVE will kick asses, I'm pretty sure you all will love it as I do! \m/ Great job with the video as well! LOVE IT.
While you sound like a genuine fan I don't see the mind blowing unique band we once had here. A lot of things change and dropped musically, vocally and lyrically made more simpler which isn't appealing since this band earned a rep off of it's complexity. I think the new album has moments in it but fails to leave an impression much less lives up to the previous material in anyway whatsoever. Now I like Vicky but only half her vocals are on point. And the new direction is just following trends what happen to being in their own lane you know lol.
I like how they layered the different vocal tracks, making it so we can hear her lyrics screamed and sung at the same time. I'd definitely give this another listen. And if you have an ear for the rhythm, you can follow the guitar notes fairly easily despite the tempo. They're not so much notes as patterns of notes that you have to listen closely to hear, but that's mainly the way it is with most heavy metal and metalcore songs. Hard to play, easy to hear, and loads of fun to jam out to.
Everyone is complaining about Vicky's screaming technique, but they are ignoring one fact: Alissa didn't have any training either. She said so herself. And nobody is concerned about that, just because it's Alissa.
Tempest some people have their heads up in Alissa's ass.
I know, they are so far up, I can see their legs peeking out.
Thanks to you, The Agonist! Great video shoot at St-Adolphe d"Howard, this place not as nice as before but I like it ,bring me a lot of good memory!
I loved the singer, I think she's great !
Haven't had a chance to hear the whole album yet but really loving the sound of this. Great job Agonist, gonna buy this album :)
so thats good to know that im not the only one that just absolutely loves this song
they came to our tiny town when they were off a tour. bar with 120 ppl and did a full ,hour and 30.old singer never would have come here. big fan of the new sound.
Saw them live yesterday, and the crowds energy went over the top compared to the other three bands, everyone was having a good time :D
I liked The Agonist with Alyssa But with Vicky I love it ! I don't know why I suppose to hate her .... But I love her !!!! This album it's going to be great !!!!!!
i feel you, i think i was supposed to hate her but i love her
+Paulo Amorim yes she is awesome
Oh man! I liked the song, and i feel exactly what you, i suppose to hate her ... it´s very weird.
Why are you guys suppose to hate her? In metal, we don't take sides.
I don't know how to explain, people keep saying that Vicky sucks now and the band has gone mainstream
But Vicky is awesome! 😊
I will never forget that telephone call asking for Mike Hunt. My world was never the same thereafter.
Vickys voice is amazing, and whould be lovely to hear her in a records without screaming like they do in this type of music. Vicky+powermetal=honey for my ears. Thats only my subjective opinion.
it's not bad, i think vicky is better at clean vocals (in my opinion) but not bad
Su voz limpia es muy buena, su estilo gutural no lo es tanto. Coincido contigo. Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷
Damn, Vicky is fierce!
fuck yeah she is she is also sexy as fuck
I don't know if her screaming vocals are unhealthy, but I think they are made on purpose to transmit agony. I love the part at 2:25, you can feel the suffering on her voice.
I'm a monster in their eyes
but they fail to see
They created... me
They created... me
I wanna thank Danny and The Agonist for not just doing the same album and style over and over again!!! Love this song and Vicky you kick ass.
Remember this isn't progressive this is going backwards but maybe you're just into that. Overall the album is alright nothing mind blowing or next level though.
Julian Felton you should write some of your own music... They obviously wanted to write this album like this. That does not mean it is going backwards it's just not as heavy.
CMOOREtbay
Who's to say I don't write my own music but that's neither here nor there though. Also let me ask you something? If a band starts off with an avant-garde style that made them not only unique but brought in a legion of fans why would you devolved and commercialize your sound? Because this transition wasn't organic but made out of choice to soften up the music for Vicky's limited voice. Not that she's a bad singer just not for this type of metal maybe alternative metal/ hard rock maybe.
Julian Felton The way your talking it's as if you only listened to this song. That is not how music or art of any kind works for me... I sit down put the album on and listen and this album is a damn good listen. I guess some ppl just have their charts and categories out to compare... But to say Vicky is limited is just ignorant im not trying to be rude but this girl has skill.
CMOOREtbay
You're clearing assuming things so let me clarify it for you. I have had the album for two weeks and I have listened to it musically, vocally and lyrically. And have yet to be impressed that's not to say their are moments on the album. But overall it pales in comparison to their classic stuff which had direction I felt. That's doesn't mean I prefer heavier just the avant-garde approach basically. Also I'm not denying that Vicky has skills just not in the guttural department is all.
Scream vocals I'd pick Alissa
Clean vocals I'd pick Vicky
Very beautiful voice, love the music
My favorite track off FIVE thus far!
I haven't heard this band since Once Only Imagined... This does not disappoint. Great job.
I got some feelings similar to the ones i got from Prisoners .. Pretty good , some songs are good , they are evolving , but her screaming just somehow got worse ? Maybe she should stick to cleans , she can nail them sometimes
Her harsh vocals sound strained. I really like her cleand vocals on the album
Serenata yeah , thats what i meant .. they feel , not ntaural , not at all
They should get a second vocalist, even if they kind of already have that with Kells.
I just find it a bit weaker now...
BirdsElopeWithTheSun true . the harsh just seem , almost dead , like its hurting her ..
firstly, this is the best new song so far, i love it. secondly i can see that they are changing and evolving, and although with the first 2 tracks i was not completely and fully hyped about the new album, this surely made up my mind!
Yes! I completely agree. Cannot wait for friday :)
I think the song is not bad, but like the other two new songs it's not good enough compared to the prevous album. Only one problem for me. The Voices not enourgh clear (I mean the normal singing and the harsh vocals as well). Vickys voice is better than this. Few times in this song the screams not enough clear and it's not comfortable for my ears somewhere in 1:20 and 1:34 and the same as a few other moments. It's surprises me, because I'm not felt this in the prevous songs and the first album with Vicky. I hope the other songs better, because I like Agonist and Vickys singing as well.
Wait till you hear the album they tone down the sound it's not as captivating and brilliant it's just decent and below average which is not Agonist standards for their albums.
finally a voice with RANGE!
FIRST OF ALL the intro is something very out of thew box i cant stop hitting the replay button this song got me threw pritty tough times AGAIN THANKYOU GUYS I LOVE YOU ALL!!THANKYOU THANKYOU
That's a hell of a catchy chorus, well done.
Replacing the original lead singer is a very difficult thing for a band to do, most of the time it fails. Not many bands find the same success as they did with there original lead singer. AC/DC and Van Halen are the two most obvious bands that found success with a different lead singers. I'll admit I don't listen to this genre of metal that much, but I have listened a lot of Vicky's covers on You Tube.I love her voice and think she has incredible vocal range(just my opinion). Because I am more familiar with Vicky, I'm more likely to listen to her version of The Agonist.
Still very happy that I saw you in Tilburg! Even my love likes you after that performance (I tried a view years to stimulate her to like your music, and now, after 1 concert, she likes it! ;-) ) So we will see you next time when you are in Holland! ❤️
I love vickly and the band is so good. And all the songs touch me. Because i love heavy metal . A lot. There music keeps me going. And five is so good . I listen to it all the time and please keep me up dated with the live stuff to.
Damn, people in the comment section cant move on can they? Alissa is gone Vicky is here and just as good! Cant wait for the album release tommorow!
wow just wow! I love how you guys have evolved and loving this new sound.
Did you just talk to yourself? lol
haha oops! it was under the wrong post.
Samer T. Hahah
Great band, great album.
There is more diversity in this one album than in all the others combined. I'm glad they crawled out of that little agonist box they made for themselves.
That's not meant to be rude, I like the past albums. I just like the songwriting on this one. I like the change.
I think I'll enjoy whatever they do in the future.
Just a good band.
My biggest complaint about the change of singers years ago was that Alyssa was obviously the main songwriter for the Agonist and when she left all the poetry left too
I don't know why people are hating on them, really the choruses in their new songs are a lot better than anything Alissa has done, alissa's songs were great but it always felt like they made a cool instrumental track and alissa was trying so hard to fit the lyrics all over the song, I'm in love with this album, probably Eye Of Providence was easier to like and to listen to, but Five is such a unique and different album, they tried a lot of new awesome things
I think so too that with Vicky, their songs sounded more melodic.
I agree with you 100%
Vicky has songs where she sounds amazing and others where she sounds just alright. Overall she is a decent vocalist, I would say Alissa's voice has more strength though. But I like them both when it comes down to it.
I like this album... but the last one was amazing! better than this one! in my opinion...I want to listen to Alissa I also listen to Arch Enemy without talking shit of Viccky or the agonist..the reason of separation is their own business..I don't like their decision but I still like their songs.. and I like Vicky's voice...so..I'm glad I'll be able to see them live :D.
The people should comment like you do
Thanks.. btw I just realized I have some spelling mistakes haha thta's not good.. but anyway.. I know people can read this hahaha... cheers!! :D
+Paola Abril Stupid Spanish lol
It's my language btw! hahahah
I enjoy both bands now. Also can't wait for Alissa's solo album.
Orphans, Five & Eye of Providence i Love 🤟
This song is incredibly good, at that moment she needed to improve her guttural. Although her clean vocals were very amazing.
The new album showed she is fucking doing a great job. Thank you, Vicky. You're a great singer and now better than never.
I am LOVING the more progressive direction they're going in! It also has a bit of atmospheric influences in it too that I'm loving. CALL THEM MCDONALD'S BECAUSE I'M LOVING IT!!!
Great stuff loving the new vocal pitch track 3 The anchor and the sail really shows it off must buy album no question
Must be referring to her clean voice right? Because those gutturals are still god awful and I don't see them improving anytime soon.
there's a somewhat in between vocal which is sounding awesome on the album. real grower this album had it on constantly the last 2 weeks I like the direction they are going can't wait to get my hands on a physical cd
Patrick Atkin
I heard the album 2 weeks ago too. But the thing of it is that musically, vocally and lyrically the music has dropped and became manufactured into formula that a lot of bands are following. Theirs no originality or uniqueness to drive them in their own lane which is what made this band great. While I felt the album had some moments in it it has to be the worst album of their catalogue and their playing it safe. I don't know if you're a fan from the beginning but their albums use to surprise and blow you away. This album doesn't none of that but instead leaves you with under performed material that while it sounds okay doesn't really an impression whatsoever.
She is amazing on live shows!! Her screams and growls are so powerfull :D Regards from Wrocław, Poland!!!! :)))
Imagine "The Hunt" with Alissa's vocals. I'm a guitarist in the Russian melodic death metal and metalcore band. Alissa ... she is my inspiration ... I love her so much. ♡
Vicky is not supposed to act/be like Alissa. Move on guys. They're trying something new, different, and they're doing great!VICKY, YOU'RE FUCKING AMAZING & THE BAND ARE LEAVING ALISSA'S SHADOW. LONG LIFE TO THE AGONIST! \m/
I agree with you!
Who asked Vicky to be like Alissa at least keep up the intensity and lyrics that she laid the groundwork for. But instead we have lyrics that are derivative or just not as good period and vocals where one succeeds and the other fails but flaws have been pointed out on her cleans from others. The band is still okay just not an unique identity anymore now their lumped in with all the other bands who are riding the trend wave right now. Where's the element of surprise everything is clearly simpler and predictable.
Samer T.
Can't handle the truth get out the comment section! It's criticism everyone deals with it just need to toughen up there.
You mean "are not good" because YOU think that, right? lol - They're not obligated to write such thing as they used to, just because it's "sounds better". What you call 'simpler' and 'predictable' I call innovating and challenging; so different of being just simple since they're trying to move on and leave 'Alissa's legacy/shadow' for good.
By the way, you should leave the comment section (but it's up to you, of course), can't believe people still waste their time to bash artist/bands. LOL
Luan Cristian
How is innovating and challenging given streamlined material that any band could've played other than themselves? That's pure laziness if you want to be honest. And when you build a reputation on a avant-garde style then abandon it because of some of singers limited capabilities of course theirs gonna be backlash. What you call a shadow is what made this band so popular and drew many fans to the band. You can never count Alissa out which is what all of you new fans try to do but it won't happen so deal with it. Also maybe you should toughen up instead of being so sensitive to say leave the comment section. Because I don't have to do shit I have just as much right to be here as anyone else including you. The purpose of the comment section is for feedback whether positive or negative. Besides my criticism comes out love because I'm passionate about the band so maybe you should know what you talking about first before assuming something.
plzzzz dont let the agonist be the next haters topic like every NW song with tarja vs floor
this sounds good and if you wanna hear alissa go to arch enemy you wanna hear vicky stay hear
Too late it's already taken place on here and facebook so strap your seat belt on and prepare for the long trip we call a debate.
Samer T.
Well for me it's just the music isn't as interesting as earlier stuff with Tarja and maybe Annette. I don't compare them vocally their both great but their new album with Floor just didn't blow me away. Apparently she has talent but wasn't showing it much and basically playing it safe to be honest.
Vicky Forever and EVER
i love how this band is so different!
Oh and no one should comment until they see Vicky live it is the heaviest shit you will ever see.
yeah I saw Vicky live twice and she killed it!
Samer T. I got to meet her after we saw them live and she is really chill and nice
yeah I met Alissa years ago with the agonist and she was very rude and mean. I would like to meet Vicky someday! she looks super nice.
Samer T. Definitely try to see them live again with Vicky if you get the chance! We got a super cool pic with her and she was not swamped with fans at the time so we got to chat with her a bit.
nice! yes I will do that when I see them with Epica soon!
Congrats from your biggest fan in Brazil!!!!
this is something different but I really enjoyed it.
She sings this song properly with good technique live, idk what happened in the studio but she is a capable vocalist, just no one knows what happened with her growls here, me neither
Death Sentinel I agree with you dude. She's amazing live
Saw them in Nijverdal. Vicky rules. The production of the last albums sucks imo
This is perfect cuz. Amazing job. Keep this up.
So fucking wonderful...~ I'm listening to that everyday when I wake up :'D
Video in an old warehouse! How original!
It's an old military satellite station...
triptoxic
Oh, pardon my ignorance then i guess.
lol.. right.
Albert Suchan ayeeeee, bmth ❤
Why is everyone hating on Vicky she is good
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!! Love it!
Her voice is getting more and more interesting. Is The Agonist going on the Thrash side of metal?
That sound is far from thrash the drumming is mid paced at best and you must mean her clean voice because the gutturals are still terrible no denying that fact.
Stop passing your opinion as facts. Her gutturals are fine.
Are you deaf or something? Those gutturals are fucking terrible compare to previous vocalist or many others in the genre and that is facts. You obviously need to clean your ears because I'm pretty sure anyone with good ears can tell those things are nowhere near fine except for you.
wow. so many fanboyz here! I find this song very good ans I really like her way of singing here! Thé screams are really good. it change from everything i've heard before. I wasn't a fan of their previous productions. Ans again I didn't said it was a real thrash métal song, but some riffs reminds me of it. Dont over reacts guys, that's crazy. btw m'y ears were clean when i discovered the video. And if one day someone is not of the same opinion than you, dont be a stupid internet kid, you can respond to me nicely.
Yes my tastes are not universals, neither yours.
valentin kientz
Fanboys? Not even just a person who appreciates good music point blank period. The only thing going for her here are the cleans those screams are beyond terrible. Listen to any metalcore band and see the huge difference in the screams you're listening to here. I don't see how you're not but this is better when this is basically a simplify and under performed version of that. First off their are no kids here let's get that straight were simply agreeing to disagreeing. And my musical taste is very eclectic even with metal but with this band I appreciated that unique thing not this trend following machine it's become now.
Regardless of skills the agonist has to have one of the best lead singer changes of all time. They def didn't downgrade
Just a hint here. Never ever get rid of Vicky.
This battle of Vicky vs. Alissa is ridiculous. Alissa really skyrocket The Agonist so good, "Panophobia" is just so good and Prisoners as an album is a masterpiece. but. Five IS WOW. Like how can u still think of Alissa when u r hearing this beautiful feminine voice? this band has too many virgins that are closed minded creeps:(
Hopes this comments wont appear again on the next album.
Imagine "The Hunt", "The Moment" or "My Witness, Your Victim" with Alissa's vocals. I'm a guitarist in the Russian melodic death metal and metalcore band. Alissa ... she's my inspiration ... I love her so much. Alissa ♡
Николай Есаков I dont know... your comment doesnt have anything related with the band
+Luis Psarakis.
I disagree with you.
I talked about Alissa White-Gluz, she was the first vocalist of The Agonist. My comment is a my love confession.
I love her, as a guitarist loves the singer, I write short love poems of course about Alissa.
She inspired me. What's bad about it ?
Sorry for my bad English and for the late response.
vk.com/video214820947_171567626
Love it Vicky prove herself to everyone. Plus she made the band whole again.
It's actually nice to see a chick that can do clean vocals and then scream. Kiddos to you Vicky. I don't consider someone who can only scream to be a vocalist. Working on the screaming part myself. It's hard to master without damaging ones voice. Wish there were more Melissa Cross' out there.
Great song!!
Today is the day of Five’s album release. And there are some things that need to be addressed so let’s address them.
First off I like the song at least for the clean part of it. The lyrics were okay but not as interesting as past ones. And the bad parts being the instrumental which is great but basically is one dimensional not much there changing or keep it interesting. And the gutturals have somehow worsened than ever which is front and center. Other than that that’s how I feel about the song meanwhile the video was an okay addition to it.
This band has clearly changed which is obvious here as we know. But with Alissa they were like this beautiful woman with direction and an intelligentsia that attracted many to them. And now the band is just a commercialized beautiful woman with a pretty face with little to none of her smarts left. Both sides have put out music and everyone clearly has the own preference here which is fine. But the comparisons are pointless when one is trained and the other is not in this type of vocal arena.
Now as far as the new album goes here’s my review on it. The only positive here are the cleans they are good but at times can become boring or monotonous to a degree. While the lyrics are meant to tell separate stories they seem more like just regular lyrics honestly. While past lyrics were more interesting and made you want to dig more into them. The negatives being the instrumentals while great as I already said one dimensional not much there to keep you interested just basic. And the gutturals are terrible not much to argument it’s front and center. It has moments inside of it but could be the worst album in the discography. Overall the avant-garde element which kept things interesting has been reduced to ashes for something more streamlined. Others may enjoy while others may disapprove agree to disagree.
Finally but lastly I’m going to address all you Vicky supporters/protectors. Don’t get oversensitive and say moronic things like feel free to leave or go listen to Arch Enemy when someone has an opinion different from your own. You need to develop thicker skin because the criticism is coming and probably will only get worse from here. Now my own criticism doesn’t come out of hatred but love because I am passionate about this band. Like many others this was one of my favorite bands.
But when I see such lackluster material being pushed of course I will say something. I’m not going to kiss their asses because I love them and tell them their great when they’re not. Even if Alissa were here and did this I would still criticize it but I don’t think they would have compromise this much to make their future albums. With that said I want to see them live up to their full potential but devolving isn’t the answer sorry folks. Also stop attacking and fabricating stories about Alissa because rumors of such false claims of what you think of her are irrelevant not to mention untrue anyways.
If you don’t like her fine but to say her and the guys didn’t have chemistry to create the music they did is absolutely blasphemous. You don’t evolve like that with every album if there was such discord in the band. At the end of the day I know Alissa is gone but don’t discredit her like she isn’t synonymous with this band. I know Vicky’s here now she’s great singer but just doesn’t have the right vocal skills for this kind of music. But it is what it is and let see what happens in the future with the agonist.
Hi! Im tottaly yhe oposite, i prefer the band like it is now xD
Im a Screamer for 5 years, i thim my screams are really nice, and i know that in screaming art Vicky its very low, but i still like her screams dont know why, her clean vocals are beautiful, i think she can be a great singer for a clean vocal metalcore. But i still love her job with the agonist most than alissa idkw.
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Oh okay well hopefully you're taking care of your voice to be able to continue those kind of vocals. Also Vicky's screams aren't great because she's never done it much or had proper training to maintain it. Which is very important to prevent her from ruining her voice in the long run. And yes her cleans are nice but can become tiresome at times at least for some. In the end it all comes down to preference I myself prefer Alissa because she's trains her voice and properly knows to transition from gutturals into cleans effortlessly.
Thanks guys, you are amazing!
Will be listening to the album more in depth later today... for now, I like this song more than "The Moment". As for who was the better frontwoman? Alissa, of course. But I like this BAND. "Eye of Providence" was one of my favorite albums last year, and I see this being a good listen. As for Alissa, I followed her to Arch Enemy, and that album, "War Eternal", is amazing... quite more succinct and stripped down that their previous works, but I love her sound. Vicky was a very good fit and a great replacement for Alissa. No complaints there.
Anyone else thinks her growls sounded better in Eye Of Providence? This just doesn't sound good. Love the cleans though
Nope, you're not the only one
I agree, her screams sound like shit but I love this band
yeah... sounds pretty bad indeed
When i heard the chain i was like no to the harsh vocals I thought it was terrible but then i just started to enjoy it so, i do like her harsh vocals in both albums.
Who listened to this band for the clean vocals? This band is just crap now without Alissa.
I love this song. I actually listen the album and it's very good. It's true that is more soft, but has very interesting tracks, and a very good job. In my opinion, FIVE surpasses (I don't know if is the best word, I speak spanish) EOP a little. The Moment and The Chain are the only two tracks which left me a little dissapointed, the rest is very good.
(Hey Julian Felton, I'm waiting for your response xD)
The album is mediocre but still decent enough to listen too. I would say if you want to be blown away play their first three albums they would do the trick for you man.
Also thanks for the promotion by mentioning my name what a way to show me right lol, Is that all you got seriously you sensitive types need to toughen up and not be so serious.
+Julian Felton i feel the same here... The Agonist aint bad BUT since the album "Prisoners" they sound so repetitive both musically and vocal wise... is even more frustrating since they even change vocalist and they still sound the same.. they do however have some good song in EOP and im sure some songs in this album might be good too... dont know what this band needs to stop repeating themself but they sure need some change ASAP
Alejandro Roa
Thanks man! I mean people wanna making me out to be the villain but I'm just honest as I truly love this band. But apparently too many people here can't handle criticism and switch into defense mode. And you have a point about the repetitiveness because we all know as fans Prisoners was the best album to date. And that style obviously has influenced EOP greatly while sounding watered down still had some good songs despite the imbalance to it. But this album was too much of a transition to ignore and not say something about it especially with two singles that really didn't do much to encourage to buy the album. The album has moments but overall fails to captivate and blow me away like previous efforts. A change is very much needed but their shouldn't have been one to begin with at least not if Alissa was still around.
+Julian Felton thats a good point my friend! the change is already made and yet PRISONERS, EOP and FIVE sound like one long album with some differences but yet is repetitive has hell.. im glad im not the only one here who feels this way :-)
Alejandro Roa
Thanks again! And pretty much you hit the nail right on the head. Prisoners was the catalyst for why the next two albums sounded the way they do. And yeah you're not alone on this man this is all straight facts that people can't deny. What do you think of the vocalist? And what's your favorite album?
It's good to see old CFS Lac St Denis being used for something. It's all borded up again (for now)
thanks for more quality Canadian metal, that's what I'm talking aboot.
realy powerfull! I like that!
She's pretty in person 😍
And kind too
Best song ever
I thought "The Moment" was pretty weak, but this song is actually pretty strong. It'll be interesting to see how the album turns out
Check out the album! its fucking amazing.
Goodbye powerful growls and black metal vocals type :'(. Now I got this metalcore style screaming
Love it!
Vicky's growl is so much powerfull, I like it :D
Vicky is actually REALLY GOOD!!!
Greece\m/
2:24 - 2:44 Whahaha, this is sooooo bad x'D
Eye of Provindence was awesome with Vicky, after getting a bit used to her.
But this screaming in these new songs is terrible!
god damn you i didnt realize that, i was still trying to love this song now i will hear that shitty screams everytime i listen it :////
I'm sorry dude, I really wanted to like it too, but this just made me laugh.
Why would we try so hard to like a song.
If a song is worthy, we don't need to try, it just happens automatically, you know.
Production of the growls is bad. They should have used the same producers as from Eye of providence imo
She’s gotten better now. If you listened to the new stuff
I really enjoy this song now, my old comments make me cringe
one of the best looking girls in metal
David Dougher next to their old singer
i like vicky so much, stop comparing both are uniques
Beatriz Martin exactly
i must say, i like her vocal voice and with the agonist it sounds good, her growls are not so powerful like alissasand the growl voice is not so deep like alissas, but well she is not alissa and i think the agonist has get a good choice to make with her music now. its different but i like it. and yes alissas vocal voice is now delete in arch enemy :/ sad but well.
She is the hottest woman in music.
the way she screams makes it sound like she's in actual pain. does not sound healthy in comparison to other people in this industry
but her cleans are great & overall it's a good song
Agreed
Great band.
Never was a big fan of this band but this is actually pretty good.