Is a Porsche Cayman the Best $20k Sports Car Deal? Filippo Investigates the 987!
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In this video, Filippo Bulgarelli, Head of Operations at Cars & Bids, continues his search for his first modern sports car. The idea of buying one of the best value modern offerings from Porsche has caught Filippo's attention. Today, he gets to drive a 2008 Porsche Cayman 987 and see if it lives up to the hype of being one of the best value modern sports cars on the market.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Introduction
01:03 CARS & BIDS!!!
01:05 Taking The Cayman For A Spin
01:46 Cayman 987 Facts
03:06 It Feels Natural
04:32 Does it Feel Enough Like A Sports Car?
07:36 Kennan's Good Point
10:34 What Are Some of The Cons??
12:25 Drawbacks Applicable to Filippo's Life Specifically
12:59 What Are the Top Contenders?
18:20 Some More Thoughts on the Cayman
21:59 Heading For Pizza!
22:15 Conclusion
23:37 Pizza Outro
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Please make a series called ‘cheapo fillipo’ where we get reviews of depreciated vehicles that offer great all around value. (If fillipo is okay with that branding lol)
i wanna see Fillipo review the gen 1 Twingo
Early Hoovie's Garage but without the hoopties.
Great idea 👍🏻
And then watch the search trends for the cars to spike after the video LMAO
Omg Cheapo Filipo
Big fan of Cheapo Fillipo. He speaks to me
agreed
What he be saying?
@@davidbennett5424true things
😅I'm starting to wonder if MAYBE I just enjoy Car Reviews in general. Like...full stop. I enjoyed Doug, I liked the others...I saw Marques do it well and Tyler, CarWow, Donut and Top Gear obviously...maybe I just enjoy people reviewing cars.
@@davidbennett5424 he's a car guy that's also big on financial responsibility. Most car guys are terrible with money so Fillipo's perspective is really refreshing and relatable.
“Filippo Investigates” Congratulations, Cars and Bids. You’ve just stumbled upon a great title for a recurring series.
Cheapo Fillipo Investigates
Filippo investigates the dark web
Doug teases Filippo too much about his limited high end exotics knowledge. Here we have proof that Filippo is actually the most relatable everyman enthusiast. In a hobby typically ruled by irrational emotion and pursuits of unreasonable speed, Filippo is refreshingly pragmatic.
I might even argue that Doug’s enthusiasm for the older, cheaper, slower Countach (vs the CGT) is actually Filippo’s practical side rubbing off on Doug. That, or it’s the Italian. 😉
Also Abarth 500 isn't bad car to own, you have to be car enthusiast to own one because otherwise you probably wouldn't even know how different it is
Okay Doug, been watching your videos since Jalopnik days, who knew you had such a good hat-trick hiding in your back pocket like Cheapo-Fillipo!!! We all need more Fillipo!
Liking the fillipo vids!
Fillipo keeps talking about wanting similar but a convertible, but instead of saying "Boxster", he says "911". Check out a Boxster!!!!!
Because he also mentioned that he needs backseats, though the 911 backseats aren’t intended to seat two more actual adults.
My favorite new series Doug should stay on vacation forever 🤣
This is the kind of car video that is actually useful to most of us average car enthusiasts/owners. Well done.
I love how Fillipo is experiencing everything for the first time. It's really refreshing to see someone experiencing something for the first time. From corvette to prosche 2 completely different experiences and it's nice to see how Fillipo has different emotions about the 2 cars. Great content!
If only there was a convertible version of the Cayman for Filipo to consider.
Filippo the type of guy who considers a mid-engine Porsche for his pizza to stay warm.
Get the Cayman! I love my 987.1 Cayman S. You're right that the base model has less of a chance of bore scoring. Find out why by watching the 4-part series on bore scoring on the PCA TH-cam channel. I recently installed the PCCM+ made by Porsche Classic, purchased through sun coast parts. Installed myself. Now I have a much better head unit with Apple car play. Anytime I see a 987 on the road, I know that's an enthusiast. You don't accidentally find yourself owning a 987. Find one with the sport seats. They are better than the standard seat you're sitting in.
Problem is IF bore scoring it does happen, is another Cayman’s worth of a cost to fix. Basically, you loose a 20k car without insurance to back you up. They should cost 10k on a good day just for risk of it.
just find 2009+ facelift cars)
@@silhouette300 I know someone with a 987.2 that needed a new engine due to oblong cylinders. Every car has its issues and every engine can fail. If you can't stomach the possibility of it happening you shouldn't buy a used luxury car.
@@kimchee411of course, but in my country like 80% of 996 997 987 NA cars have scoring in cylinder, for 987.2 problems with engine much rarer. Same on 997.2. Problems could be with early PDK gearboxes. Better buy 2011-2012 cars
I have a 2012 Cayman 987.2 base for around 2 and a half years now, and it's by far the best car i've owned. The handling, the torque, the everyday usability with the storage space, and even the quirky stuff like the pop-out cupholders, it's excellent.
The facelifted interior in the 987.2s and Porsches after 2009 in general also look fantastic, taking away the absolutely cluster of buttons and streamlined it alot more, making it feel alot more driver focused. It ain't luxurious, you're certainly reminded it's a sport car. But it's a really comfortable cabin to be in, atleast in my opinion.
Regardless of whether you get a 987.1 or .2, if you get one, I hope Filipo finds it to be a super enjoyable experience. I love Porsche, I love 911s, but Caymans are an absolute steal for what you get out of them.
Best $20k used car, best $150k sports car, cayman is the answer
Great owner instructing Filipo to drive it hard!!! Especially on this car, that’s when it shines!
Joe average doesn’t know the difference between a CGT and a Boxster
If there was ever a doubt as to Fillipo’s nationality, the hand gestures WHILST DRIVING are crazy!
Loving the content. Man is a natural
Yes. Yes it is. All the 6 cylinder caymans are amazing. 981 flashed to gt3 steering is the sweet spot. Even the 4 cylinder’s are fun and fast! Mid engine Porsches are the best. 914s and Caymans are underrated and usually undervalued because of the 911.
That 836hp Corvette for 40k - wow.
Definitely looked like you liked the Corvette better
yes. it is.
Fridays with Filippo!! I’m starting to love these. I hope he keeps doing them, even if he does eventually buy something… which is highly unlikely!!
base c6 manuals go for around 20k. Better deal I think. That's my bias towards V8s though. Early Caymans are super nice as well and it's all based on preference
Or get the z06 for not much more. Aluminum frame carbon fenders wider track width more muscled body. More power better brakes etc etc etc
@@mr.lowslow7702 All C6s have an aluminum chassis. It was the C5 that differed from the Z06 chassis. Having owned a C5, C6 (LS3) and 987.1, I would take the Cayman any day. The base Cayman is not Corvette fast but has usable power. I was always too scared to push my C6 on a mountain run, but not the Cayman. And at the end of the day, a base Corvette will not how value like a base Porsche. Plus a base Cayman has a nicer interior and finish than a 1LT or 2LT Corvette.
@@isreyjr7201 You might want to do some of your own fact checking about the Corvette frame materials before correcting people. mr.lowslow is right.
Filipo would need the C7 to get near the base Cayman build quality, anyway.
I stand corrected on the build material it is steel for the base models.
Fillipo is the jam at these drives. Keep it up gents.
Absolutely loving Filippo content! Keep it up
This series is great, please keep it going!
Great video, Filipio. I enjoyed all of it and was far more relatable than most reviews.
LOL the intro was great
Great video! I'm looking forward to future videos as you figure out what you would like to buy next. One thought: Have you considered a Panamera? Four seats, a very roomy and practical hatch, but still fun, sporty, and I see many used in great shape for very good prices.
Great car review!
I've been saying for years that the Cayman/Boxster is the best sports car platform on the planet. Literally the only thing holding Porsche back from making it better than the 911 is the fact that 911 owners would lose their mind if they made a car that was better. If porsche gave the the cayman/boxster the 911's engine, and improved suspension, it would be better than the 911 in literally every way.
Great vid and review. 10/10 👍
Big fan of Filippo's videos! He's incredibly relatable.
Commenters, you know it's possible not to pick sides between people on Cars and Bids, and just enjoy the (free) content?
I like all of the presenters - variety is a good thing.
GORGEOUS car - those rollers from the rear 3/4 are actually breathtaking. I love that color.
You’ve convinced me! Great video by Filipo!
Awesome content, Filippo provides a great POV and is a natural storyteller
Really like this porsche the color and quite a bargain given its a Porsche even with that mileage.
Fillipo is definitely more of a natural behind the camera, and I love the use of different camera angles.Glad to see he's getting good feedback. Felt more like Jay Leno from a video perspective, which is also refreshing. Hopefully, he can get a camera mounted in the back so we get to see different angles, especially out the front screen.
Definitely onto something with buying cheaper cars and looking for an affordable bargain.
I love how Fillipo spends half the video comparing the porche to his fiat 😂
Great video
great video, we need more of Filippo
More Filippo please! Have him review cars going for sale on carsandbids too since I like this style and video format too.
Great video guys, but please work on the audio levels for next time. Audio was low, got loud, got low, etc.
I have owned a base 987.1 for around a year now and absolutely love it. I have done multiple road trips, including a trip to Nurburgring and some track days and haven’t had any major problems. I can highly recommend getting one.
incredible color too btw, love that!
Can't wait to see what you actually get.
Thanks Filippo. I've had my eye on one of these too. This helped me consider the 987. This one sounds wonderful. I can see the fun on mountain roads and even around town. Watch Out Doug, Filippo has game.
Filippo is the best!!
I have had two base 987.2 manuals and now own a 981 base PDK. All amazing cars. But I think the 981 might be the better car. The stock cable operated manual gearbox felt pretty sloppy on the 987. The seating position also feels much nicer on the 981. 981 seems to be aging well too.
The boot however on the 987 is bigger and fits golf bags easier. But these are nitpicks. All generations are excellent.
More of these, please.
Fillipo you are the man, "camera crews" all around you, Doug does not🤣 Great video
The SL55 AMG next!
Love the Cheapo Fillipo vids. For this question of sporty, convertible and 4 seater e46 M3 or E93 M3 are the only choices, surely...
I like this segment
Filippo is the new star of the channel. Relatable and genuine.
This actually was a fantastic review of this car
Definitely interested in seeing the final choice 😁
Beautiful cars.
As a valet I got to drive many 911s as well as various other porsche models, and a slightly tuned caymen is the only one I still think about. It was a great car.
I absolutely LOVE the color on this one.
Filippo's the type of guy to redline his coworker's Porsche while merging.
Not a fan of the exhaust but man do I love a Cayman. To me they look so much better than a 911. Plus the driving experience speaks for itself.
Yes!! We need more filipo even after buys his sports car. Missed the Costco practicality test today tho.
Really enjoyed this review with the cheap man. More of this
Thumbs up for the pizza outro alone lol.
I bet the pizza place liked the (plug) advertisement spot.
Cars & Bids is setting up a series of C7 videos.
996.1 manual c2 cab, you will love it and it will give you very similar feels as a covertible and +2 seats with more power, more room to red line, throw in fister exhausts/gundo hack and a wind deflector and youre golden. 996 is much more fully depreciated and even going up or at least holding value. 987 cayman is great and a 987 cayman S is one of the best track cars but as a top down gt cruiser and what you seem to like the 996 is for you.
Can't wait for more pizza reviews with Filipo!
Cheapo Filippo needs his own eponymous channel.
Fillipo, you should totally test drive a nice example C5. Just bought a manual one with 25k miles as my new daily and it’s surprisingly comfortable inside. The ride quality is amazing too. I don’t think the interior is as bad as people say (maybe mines just in much better condition). They also drive so amazingly well. The convertible aspect and gas mileage is awesome too!
2008 Cayman base owner here, loving the Porsche. Came from a s2000 so somewhat missing the rawness of the Honda. Biggest issue I have is the tc/psm activating coming out of slower corners, even with it shut off. I autocross the car and can't really get the rear loose on slow corners. I think it activates the brakes and cuts power. Car does not have sport chrono so wonder if that would help. Tried searching the Internet for options but not much luck (disabling yaw sensor to kill psm does not solve issue). If anyone has solutions please let me know!
I own a 991.2 base Carrera and a 987.1 base Cayman. I previously owned a base 987.1 Boxster for 9 years. The Boxster/Cayman is more fun to drive even though it’s not as fast and it sounds better since the engine is right behind you in the cabin.
Filippo, there's actually a new Porsche infotainment system, from Porsche, for both the 996 and 997 911, 986 Boxster, and 987 Boxster and Cayman. Plug and play, with a nice new responsive screen, CarPlay, etc.
How much is it?
@@MrJeepmarine$1500. Its called PCCM+ Plus. You can connect a backup camera as well.
Bravissimo Filippo, bel vidéo. Continua così e che la pizza sia buona 🍕 😋
Filippo finding the best cheap cars.
I dig it.
I don’t comment on videos too much but I’d just like to say that Filippo is excellent and should keep doing stuff like this after he buys his sports car!
Do these have more legroom that the Boxster? I looked at a 987 Boxster a few years ago and it doesn't have enough legroom, I'm 6'5".
I wonder about that too. I am 6'4" and tried a Boxster a few years ago. I could barely get my leg wrapped around the steering wheel and my knees were hitting the wheel when driving. Also the ceiling was too low. Gave me NA Miata vibes, which I also do not fit in at all.
21:23 nice save Fillipo 😂
this is the one filipo
I had the same 2.7 987. Unfortunately I can confirm they do suffer from bore scoring 😂 you can’t assume they don’t. But they are amazing cars, you get a proper sports car feeling
At least over here where they came from, these are the ones you (should) want while the 911 is the one you (probably) get because of outside factors or because you had this and needed more.
I met a Canadian Dude (guess where? The first Tim Horton's from Ambassador Bridge😅) who parked an 06 Cayman S, complimented him on it and while we spoke I mentioned the point above. Nice guy.
He left later with a "there's Cookies for you all at the checkout, enjoy your stay"
We were 4 people, he'd bought 8 of their top of the range Cookies just for me saying "nice car dude" basically.
Canadians...you actually HAVE to love them😅
Fillipo should get his own series : Testing cars . I’d love to see him in a McLaren P1 GTR just ripping it 😂😂
2015 Mustang gt convertable. thats what you need. back seat, tons of torque, manual. great sound. so what its not german. your wife will be happy and you will have a smile on your face when you drive it.
If you want an affordable convertible that wants to rev, there is the M Roadster with the same engine as the E46 M3.
But also look at the 987.2 boxster
How about a z4m? Verts can be sub 20 and I’m seeing some coupes under 30 even with good maintenance
I’m here for the Filippo content. Any one of Doug’s cars (minus the A-class) costs more than I have cumulatively spent on cars.
How does this compare to a new GR86 from a sports car experience?
Everyday driver did a great comparison test of the two on TH-cam.
We need more Fillipo cheap car reviews
I honestly think an e46 m3 is a fantastic option if you get a clean one but make sure you allocate some cash to do rod bearings, vanos and subframe. Also, they’re not going down in value from here, they’ll only go up you can drive it for years and still make money. And with proper maintenance they can be pretty reliable. Drive one next! Also love this series!
Doesn’t compare to a true sports car like this though it is still a big heavy sedan converted to be a sporty drivers car. Idk why people always talk about the E46 M3 but you don’t hear much about the Z4M which also has the S54, a much more ridgid chassis than the E46 (even the roadster), CSL brakes, quicker steering rack, better manual, and less weight.
You really do have to take it on a good twisty mountain road to get the most out of a Cayman. It really comes alive in those environments. You feel the mid-engine balance. Right near redline and on the edge of a cliff :-).
Cheapo Filippo for the win!
Cheapo Filippo is my spirit animal.
The early NDs had a weak trans. In 2019 Mazda updated the engine and had sorted the trans.
Nobody watches these videos with a group of people, the traditional way of speaking in journalism is to speak as if addressing an audience of one. Great content
I think Fillipo needs to drive a depreciated S550 mustang GT convertible
Filippo offers a great view on these cars, he seems like a regular, down to earth and relatable guy. Doug and Kennan are amazing, but its hard to relate with Ferrari or Carrera GT ownership 😂
I was talking to an experienced Porsche mechanic while I was considering a 996 911 vs a 987.1 Cayman… and he said that at that price, he recommended the 987.1 by far. IMS may be exaggerated but he said why chance it…
First time I drove a 987 it was simply the more exciting version of my 2002 5-speed Honda Civic, which is exactly what I was looking for. Love it.
If you’re tall (6’5”+) make sure you sit in it. I can fit at that height and is fine for around town, but a 997 911 has more room if you need to commute in it.
This is great to hear I'm at the same height and was curious. Unlike 996 which I don't fit, the 997.1 or 2 are glorious in terms of seating position and space for tall drivers. In that regard 981 Cayman or Boxsters seem roomier than 982 oddly.
986/987 base models are the most fun