Draft Grades: 2024 NFL Draft - AFC West & NFC West | PFF NFL Show
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2024
- PFF's own Sam Monson and Steve Palazzolo discuss every pick in the NFL Draft division by division!
00:00 - Intro
02:39 - Broncos
22:37 - Chiefs
35:49 - Raiders
50:46 - Chargers
01:04:52 - Cardinals
01:17:30 - Rams
01:31:31 - 49ers
01:45:06 - Seahawks
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Get That Franchise Guy on the show!!!
YES
💯! TFG and these 2 are my favorite NFL analysts in the TH-cam game. He’d absolutely kill it on this show and deserves the shine‼️
@@R41D3RNAT10N couldn’t agree more
He'd fit right in since he already uses PFF for a lot of his analysis anyway
1:21:40 The problem with Barnwell’s interpretation of the draft analytics is that he’s looking at trading up and comparing all GM decisions. What would be more effective and meaningful is to analyze GM’s successes v failures in that scenario individually.
After seeing big run in first on OT I believe Chargers made right call at 5 with Joe Alt. Can’t wait till start of season.
safe is sometimes the best
Steve when your evaluating the Bower pick you can’t just look at him as a TE because he is simply more then that. Dude brings so much more to them than just that label.
So it's your contention that they claim he only brings a label to the team?
@@AJHart-eg1ysDudes actually got two label makers
This would mean so much more if we weren't talking about the almost absolutely incompetent Raiders offense. It's basically the exact opposite to the Worthy pick: a player that was highly regarded from the beginning but since he is going to the best QB and HC in the league the hype skyrockets.
So, don't blame this guys, blame the Raiders.
@@user-hs5vb6kc9o Raiders offensive struggles were NOT due to lack of talent. McDaniels scheme was horrible, and once he got fired Bo Hardegree was promoted to OC (He’s never called an NFL offense before) so calling the Raiders offense horrible for this upcoming season is flat out wrong.
The Rams d-line and o-line are gonna be incredible. Only place of potential improvement going forward will be ILB and CB depth that's it. and then in 2025 LT depth or a replacement
I think Seahawks O and D line improved with this draft as well
Lonely Chargers fan checking in. I wanted Nabers until I heard Joe Alt on a podcast with the Long bros. That dude is as sure of a thing at Tackle as exists in the draft and these last years of ass have made me nostalgic for Marty ball. Dudes got Great physicals, great mentals, great pedigree. I’m stoked getting Ladd just made me feel even better about the pick
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I LOVE the fact that the Bengals wound up with Mims because the Chiefs wanted to move up and take him. Shout out to whoever said no about moving up!!
The whole AFC West qb stuff is crazy. The Broncos have too many holes to compete with the Chiefs or really make the playoffs so drafting Nix is suboptimal. The Raiders have : 1. 2:qbs who’re could be at least average and have a better overall roster. Drafting Bowers and JPJ (both just 21:yrs.): therefore makes a lot more sense. There’s a very good chance both of them will be around when the Raiders are,able to draft or sign a qb. that gets them over the hump.
AOC is better than a lot of people think, the Raiders may already have their QB and i wouldn't be surprised if he has a good year. The rest of the Raiders roster is much better than a lot of people think too they have a lot of good young hungry players with great work ethics don't be surprised if they have a really good year.
People are seriously doubting AOC, he was thrown into the fire as a 4th round rookie and played like the 2nd or 3rd best rookie QB of his class. Not saying he is the answer but he deserves a chance to prove himself this season.
@@R41D3RNAT10N He's got a legit shot he's talented check PFF talking about him before last years draft they think he had a chance to be good and if he came out after his junior year he would have been a first round pick.
The Rams discussion is separable. The Rams draft haul was unreal and they have been dominant lately at drafting. Top 5 at value added even without high draft picks. The trade up was certainly an overpay, but their class was unreal and they should feel amazing about it. As should y'all and now their roster is extremely deep
Take off the banana yellow glasses. Aaron Donald left and nobody on that roster is replacing him since he was probably the best overall player in the league for years.
Go Hawks!
@@travistwelfthmanKobie Turner had more sacks than Donald last year despite being double teamed more frequently and not starting most of the games. They found their AD replacement
Sorry, but Donald was declining. He's not going to be as big of a loss as you're making him out to be.
Have fun continuing to be the Rams bitch.
Worthy is definitely not just a deep threat...will be top 3 rookie WR's this year!
Either that or he ends up as a highly drafted gadget player with a miniscule catch radius I would put my money on that. The only reason he has a shot is because Andy knows how to use limited guys like him.. I can't believe they didnt trade up and draft a tackle I thought for sure Guyton would end up a Chief. I knew WR was a need but I thought OT was a bigger one the guy they drafted is raw as hell and won't help them much or at all this year. That's why I didn't like their draft that much they drafted a of athletes that aren't polished much and need a lot of work after rd 1 even the WR at 1 is far from a polished player and may struggle as well. It looked like one of the Raiders bad drafts to me.
@@jameshannagan4256 Chiefs did draft a raw tackle but Guyton is really raw, too.
@@claytonweaver7335 Guyton's tape was pretty good it just came so late to us mortals that no one was talking about him. He was the last tackle drafted that could start his rookie year he might need a little help and he's better off at RT at least in his rookie year anyway. He's a much better prospect than the kid the Chiefs drafted but that's what happens when you win the SB you draft last in every round but my issue was positional value there was much better pickings at WR in rds 2 and 3 for tackle not so much. Don't get me wrong he's not in any way a bad prospect in a normal draft even guys like him that are good enough athletes to eventually play OT in the NFL, are gone by the end of the 2nd rd he's just not helping them this year and may even struggle in year 2 but the Chiefs are good a developing guys they have to be they draft late every year.
@@jameshannagan4256 Is it fair to say it would be weird for the Chiefs to draft OU's RT when they need a LT and they drafted a LT last year?
Trey Taylor the safety from Air Force also won the fucking Thorpe award which is given to the BEST defensive back in America. Why the fuck isnt anyone talking about that?? Like the year before last in 2022 Sauce Gardner was a CBfor Cincinnati and he had a teammate who was also a CB named Kobe Bryant. Bryant won the Thorpe award in 2022. Not Sauce. Sauce never won the Thorpe. Why not? Sauce went in round 1 and Bryant went in round 4. wtf is going on here? If Bryant was the best defensive back in the country why the hell wasn’t he taken in the 1st round? I just don’t understand. Do coaches not care about that kind of thing? I mean when drafting college players I think it ,for the most part but not always, is important to target guys who were All American or made All Conferance teams. Some think that doesn’t matter. Bullshit it does matter. Making All American and All Conferance and winning the Thorpe and Balitnikoff do matter because it means that a group of people who know football vote on these things and the awards mean you are the best.
I’m tired of the Nix slander. He’s going to fit perfectly into what Payton wants. Quick read, timing, accuracy, with an occasional deep ball. He’ll be fine. I’m a Chargers fan saying this.
To be fair… Sean is pooping the bed pretty bad
Need to get Renner on to defend Nix Monday
Nix will be a solid 25th best starter in the league
nobody hates bo nix as a player. people hate taking him 12th overall when a player of his talent SHOULD go early round 2. Bad process all for a quarterback with a limited ceiling
the thing is… what else could Denver do without a 2nd rd pick? Nix is serviceable. has a stronger arm than advertised.
Aiden OC, if he plays more consistently… will actually be better than Nix IMO.
KC winning the division again.
Raiders first two picks are a TE and IOL. The only way they come out of this draft feeling good is if they are both pro bowl talents. Thats a high bar to expect.
To be fair, Mahomes was considered a late 1st round pick and Lamar was thought of as a late 1st early 2nd. So qb ranking isn’t a science, it comes down to who you go to and what do they have
Do you think if Bo nix was available at 13 the raiders wouldn’t of picked him?
Nonsense! Both of the Bengals starting Defensive Ends were gotten in round 3. Hendrickson and Hubbard. One of their other edges Joseph Ossai was gotten in round 3 too.
Mordechi was at Oklahoma before SMU. He got beat out by Spencer Rattler then he cut a ran to SMU. After a few years there he was beat out again I guess then goes to Wisconsin and has his worst year yet. I think he had like 7 tds all year or something ridiculous like that. Good athlete for sure but I wouldn’t want him
Playing QB on my team. Maybe he can be converted to a TE because he does have some
Size on him. Oftentimes QBs are converted to TEs or WRs. Travis Kelce was a QB when he got
To college. Julian Edelman was a QB at Kent State. Bengals TE Tanner Hudson was a QB in college.
Rams might think Stafford window is closing. Go for it this year and next and maybe that's second round pick from a good team won't be a starter at a position they need
Bonex fits Sean Payton's offense like a glove.I think the hate is gonna be unjustified.
THE RETURN OF RENNER ❤❤❤ Thanks Big Ugly
Troy Franklin had 2 opportunities to run the 40. The Combine AND his pro day. He may very well have been coming off of a stomach bug. All
He would need to do is run again at his pro day and weigh in there too. He did not do that so that leads me to believe that the figures that are out there are as good as it’s going to get. And Brian Thomas Jr was the 2nd best WR in the whole dam
Class. I don’t give a dam what you say about Odunze or Harrison.
What is the source for this idea that we should just accecpt that a plurality of NFL teams saw Penix as 8th overall level talent? As far as I'm aware, the only team rumored to trade for him that hasn't come out to deny that was the Raiders.
I heard that one during the South podcast. Plurality in this case can only mean two or more. It can't really be applied to the draft. The teams that passed on him obviously weren't that impressed, and the teams after No. 8 who weren't thinking about QBs weren't thinking of him at all. Even today they used Nix to continue gaslighting their water-carrying regarding the Falcons.
I don't think it means he was regarded as 8th overall, but if, let's say, 3 or 4 teams considered him to be QB3 in their boards is easier to justify the 8th overall selection. What is hard to justify is not the pick itself being 8th, but Atlanta being the one to spend it after giving Kirk Cousins a massive deal.
Rams are going pro set with Williams and Corum
Spent the whole time hating the rams draft when they still have a 1st and 2 3rds next year. Sam needs to be bagging groceries; 0 ball knowledge
Big Goofy said “the shorts” the same way a southern politician says “the blacks” lol
Don’t want to waste Adams on the Raiders so let’s trade him to a significantly worse patriots team lmao?
I like Nix more than McCarthy Maye and Penix. Have you seen Penixs numbers when he is pressured?? They aren’t good. He had the best o line In the country last year and was only sacked 11 times all year. And when he finally faced a good defense in Michigan he collapsed and easily had his worst game in his career. He will be facing defenses like that every week in the NFL. The fact that he landed in the weakest division and in the weaker conference will help him somewhat. Yea Atlanta had a good o line but the main thing they are really good at is run blocking. Atlanta had an elite run blocking offensive line. Pass blocking they are at best average
A few thoughts:
1) Good to see they're using Nix as an excuse to continue gaslighting us about the Penix pick.
2) Also glad to see Steve is still basing some things at least partly on WAR, something that is impossible to actually quantify.
I dont think the sewell and chase oicks were a wash.. imo the lions with penei sewell won over bengals taking wr chase.. look at the lions now.. they are way better.. had the bengals got sewell, burrow wouldnt have been injured.
Thanks to Atlanta 😅
When is the AFC North and NFC North being discussed because after the draft... both of these conference are going to be Nasty! Every conference game is going to be a dawg fight!
Like 2 days ago
@54 minutes. I never comment. Love your show. Staying Sewell vs Chase is a wash is the worst take I've heard. Chase is amazing but offensive lineman are in SHORT SUPPLY. Having Penei allowed JG to make ARSB amazing. What are we doing, comparing a great WR to one of the best O lineman in the league?
Agreed a star wr is great if you have a star qb who doesn’t have health/mobility issues which burrow clearly does but having a star tackle raises the entire offenses floor
It's strange how both LA teams use basically the same color schemes.
Says more bout chargers fans than the Alt pick if theyre mad
Stop saying 165 poounds. He will be 175-180 when playing. He shed 10 pounds to set the 40 record.
He still has a tiny catch radius and might get pushed around at the line of scrimmage if it wasn't for Andy's genius I would have predicted him to flop big time in the NFL especially early and he still might.
Harbaugh = Jimmy Johnson
I hate Atlanta GM. I would love to get an octagon with them. I can’t stand them.
The donkeys overdrafting Blow Dix was hilarious
Niners received a 4th from Dallas. I wish a 2nd.
Sam has the weirdest obsession with comparing himself to nfl athletes…
Nix is a plain bagel 🥯 nothing great a 3rd round after listening to these people im even more sure he be a regular sandwich with nothing on it the type that replaces what could have been a very enjoyable meal that what been delicious and left satisfied but wanting more at the same and i hope im wrong i hope wears a gold jacket by the end his career but im sure he nothing more but a future Pat Mahomes backup and wins a Super Bowl ring while the Broncos sell off the most of team for late draft picks to supplement the very next time we trade 1 round draft picks
A DUCKING COACH 🤷🏽♂️!!!! 😡
The Broncos SUCK!! They’ve been completely irrelevant in the league since Manning. Nix was a massive reach for a franchise desperate to grab a shred of notary. When he was asked to carry a team at Auburn he was borderline unplayable. Then with NFL guys all over the team in a weaker conference he puts up cartoon numbers. Feels like Mac Jones or Tua. You could’ve put Quinton Mitchell across from Pat Surtain or Liatu Latu across from Baron Browning and really started to build out a nasty defense!! Instead you reach at QB for a team in cap hell that’s miles away from competing IN DIVISION let alone the rest of the AFC. Thank God the Broncos are still a CLOWN SHOW!! Gonna be hilarious when Payton runs a second franchise into the ground and dips for TV!
You equate Tua and Mac Jones?
Both were completely insulated and surrounded with NFL talent in college. They were both way over drafted despite limitations Ray Charles could see from a mile away. Tua has obviously produced better in the league. But the skill position talent around them isn’t even comparable. It’s not a massive gap if you watch them and don’t just look at highlights and stats….
@@quintenruckman3505so then why aren’t you raging on Caleb Williams? Had arguably more talent around him at both Oklahoma and USC but still couldn’t get the job done.
USC had one of the worst OLs and defenses in all of college football. Watch the tape…