Santos Dumont Demoiselle 24 Bis, Winchester Skonkwerks Ultralight Research and Development Facility

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  • @RaynerGS
    @RaynerGS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Here in Brazil, Alberto Santos Dumont is considered a national hero! Thanks for this video.

    • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
      @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was french though, and the planes were invented in France. Airplane is a french invention!

    • @Chompchompyerded
      @Chompchompyerded 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As well he should be, along with Hector Villalobos, who was a great composer, as good as any of his time.

    • @Chompchompyerded
      @Chompchompyerded 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess No, He was Brazilian, and he was both born and died in Brazil. He did most of his work in France only because that's where all the money for the various air challenges were.
      The airplane is also not a French invention. Heavier than air planes were first flown at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, United States. Major improvements to it were made quickly in the United States, France, England, Italy. and Germany. Within 10 years, just about any innovation that was going to be made to the basic idea had been made, including the first jet aircraft was built in Bucharest, Romania, but because the exhaust pumped out directly onto the fabric fuselage, the aircraft caught fire and was destroyed before it could so much as taxi. I think there was later a jet powered seaplane entered into the Schneider Cup sometime in the 1920's but I can't remember much about it except that it was an Italian single engine single seat monoplane aircraft. If memory serves, it did fly, and it did finish, but it finished behind several propeller aircraft, including the English entry from Supermarine.
      I think a lot of people sell Brasil short for it's contribution to aviation, both early on, and even currently. Embraer, a Brasilian aircraft manufacturer makes a large portion of the commuter and short haul airliners in use today. Go to any airport which has a passenger terminal and you will see an Embraer aircraft at some point in the day. They are just that good and just that common.

    • @gghhhfghgh
      @gghhhfghgh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chompchompyerded você está certo, Santos Dumont era brasileiro!
      Mas os Wright só voaram em 1908!
      Santos Dumont fez o primeiro vôo do mais pesado que o ar em 1906.
      A aviação na Europa era mais avançada e evoluíu independente dos Estados Unidos onde era atrasado por conta do Wright processavam qualquer um que tentava voar!
      Farman já tinha feito um vôo circular quando os Wright voaram na França em 1908.

    • @mateusmchale5856
      @mateusmchale5856 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess Santos dumont was born and raised in Brazil. His first contact with engineering was with farm machinery for what, at the time, was the largest coffee bean farm in Brazil. France only came into the picture when Santos-Dumont's father decided to distribute his inheritance early due to illness, so he went to France where the international aviation federation was. Santos-Dumont used to sign his name "Santos=Dumont", using the equals sign to dissuade people like you, who thought he was French because of the "Dumont" surname.

  • @carlosalvim5105
    @carlosalvim5105 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Congratulations! Beautiful rendition of the Demoiselle project. There could be no better tribute to Alberto Santos Dumont !

  • @attiliobastosguarnieri5416
    @attiliobastosguarnieri5416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Grande replica. Muito bem executada. Dá vontade de voar neste modelo. Certamente foi o auge de Dumont e o fim do romantismo de voar como arte.
    Alberto sentiu que os anos tinham passados e a realidade era outra. Mas o que tinha que ser feito, ele fez. Pequeno Grande Homem.

    • @L1K2F3
      @L1K2F3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      From "AeronautS The Struggle to Fly"
      Em 28 de junho de 1914, o anarquista Gavrilo Princip assassinou o arquiduque austríaco Franz Ferdinand e sua esposa Sophie. Os tiros disparados em Sarajevo empurraram o mundo para a guerra e efetivamente encerraram a era romântica do voo pioneiro. Logo, as trincheiras da Frente Ocidental foram cavadas no meio do campo de aviação de Rheims, e se tornou uma terra de ninguém. Homens jovens, como se uma mão do céu ou do inferno os tivesse agarrado e jogado no chão, tornaram-se cadáveres sem nome, quebrados, apodrecendo, espalhados por onde a magia havia voado.

  • @millimetreperfect
    @millimetreperfect 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a great guy and wonderful plane. Thanks for making this video.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pretty sure that Santos Dumont would participate your club.
    (Thanks for enjoying our Santos Dumont Demoiselle and doing a look-a-like plane!)

  • @albertogarciaarango2411
    @albertogarciaarango2411 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good ultralight design.

  • @Lucius1958
    @Lucius1958 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must admit: although I have never piloted an aircraft (I rode with my parents in their Cessna as a child), I think of the Demoiselle as the epitome of an ultralight, and it fills me with desire.

  • @donmacquarrie9161
    @donmacquarrie9161 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very very cool.....great project.

  • @jamesengland7461
    @jamesengland7461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What fun! A nice reminder that this stuff doesn't always have to be rocket science.

  • @JustAnotherAkin
    @JustAnotherAkin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the ailerons. Will think about putting them on my Easy-riser before I recover and repower it.

  • @mikehubbard5493
    @mikehubbard5493 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love everything but the tail . Beautiful ultraplane.

  • @59vaughn
    @59vaughn 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Be-uteefull...lovely soulful bird....great guys...dig the history and present

  • @Chompchompyerded
    @Chompchompyerded 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't the Demoiselle a wing warper? It probably wouldn't be a good idea to make a wing warper out of aluminium... and a bit unsafe even to do it as Santos Dumont did it, out of wood and canvas, so good choice!

  • @doranjaffas9645
    @doranjaffas9645 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just goes to show old school blended with modern materials along with some mild reengineering and viola!

  • @olsonspeed
    @olsonspeed 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice craftsmanship, good to see a new ultralight design.

  • @henrygonzalez1127
    @henrygonzalez1127 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo!

  • @vomitadoz
    @vomitadoz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wright brothers with catapult until stone flies.Alberto Santos Dumont aviation father

  • @triplanelover
    @triplanelover 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    and it looks like you need a better axle for the gear, those wheels like like they're good for 1/30 G force landings !

  • @gabrielsoul6856
    @gabrielsoul6856 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The windage on those microphones must be huge. Just kidding, Awsome plane.

  • @seranonimo6770
    @seranonimo6770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cadê o paulin do celta cromado pra elogiar o vídeo em inglês

  • @osvaldotrigueiro3884
    @osvaldotrigueiro3884 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Eu queria ver o avião dos irmãos estadunidenses levantar voo assim , sem ventania e sem catapulta , isso é que eu queria ver .

    • @L1K2F3
      @L1K2F3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tu, y yo tambien!

    • @liam5075
      @liam5075 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Voaria muito bem

    • @gghhhfghgh
      @gghhhfghgh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isso nunca irá acontecer com o flyers de 1903, pesado e pouca potencia!
      O 14 bis do Santos Dumont voa tem porrada de vídeos no TH-cam!

  • @WarblesOnALot
    @WarblesOnALot 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    G'day,
    It really needs Wing-Warping to look "right".
    Just(ifiably ?) sayin',
    ;-p
    Ciao !

    • @WarblesOnALot
      @WarblesOnALot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PS,
      @ 9:31....; Alberto Santos Dumont's Dirigible Airships were NOT "Hot-Air Balloons", as stated.
      They were HYDROGEN-filled "Blimps"(ie, "Balloon-Limp"), with a Gasbag having no internal structure to shape it, anchored to a Keel-Girder underneath mounting the Engine and controls ; the aerodynamic "Cigar-Shape" of the Envelope being maintained by Gas-Pressure.
      It is a matter of historical fact that because Fore-Aft Trim was effected by Santos-Dumont scuttling back & forth along the Keel-Girder to raise & lower the Nose, while simultaneously keep track of the Engine Run-Time, but being unable to read a fixed Timepiece mounted in any one place on the Girder, and too busy to be able to pull a Pocket-Watch from his pocket....
      When Santos-Dumont took his Silver Fob-Watch to Cartiers' Jewellers in Paris and had it fitted with 2 Lugs through which a Leather Strap could be used to buckle it onto his Wrist..., he lirerally INVENTED the Wristlet-Watch ; which thus began it's Earthly Existance as an Instrument for Aerial Navigation, and an "obligatory" accoutrement for Aviators ever after, to the point where even today many Pilots are instantly identifiable at a distance in a Crowd - by the sheer size and complexity of the ostentatious Watches they like to affect.
      Cards on the table, when I was 16 my parents gave me a Seiko Automatic Chronograph with Tachymeter & Stopwatch & internal Bezel..., and by the end of the next year I'd aquired a tiny little Aeroplane to take me and the Great Big Watch flying...; and, last year my kids presented me with a Seiko Solar Chronograph with Stopwatch, Tachymeter, and Alarm rather than a Bezel....
      So, despite my knowing the history of the invention of the Aeronautical Wristlet Watch..., I too am still clearly a practising disciple of the "Cult" which Santos Dumont initiated.
      Just(ifiably ?) sayin',
      Have a good one...
      ;-p
      Ciao !

    • @L1K2F3
      @L1K2F3 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are 100% correct. Santos's blimps were filled with hydrogen, i was nervous and made a couple other mistakes also, hope you understand. Also you made another comment that they need wing warping. These are the 24's; the 23bis from AV2015 had wing warping, if you search for it there are several videos out there on that one also...

  • @jindlespog8045
    @jindlespog8045 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Aero Club de France, the Federation, Aeronautique Internatioinale, and the French Government all certified the Wrights as having flown in 1903. The December 1905 and January 1906 issues of L'Aerophile documented the Wrights' successful flights at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina and Dayton, Ohio. In point of fact, it was L'Aerophile's reportage of the Wrights that motivated Santos Dumont to cease experimentation with lighter-than-air aircraft and instead concentrate on heavier-than-air aircraft.

    • @ErickSoares3
      @ErickSoares3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sources? At the time, a lot of people on Europe was researching about heavier than air aircraft and even Dumount autobiography says that the European public only started to care about the Wrights after they started to fly in Europe - when Dumount was already flying his Demoiselle.

    • @silviocrespo4329
      @silviocrespo4329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@Pedro Rocha flyer or liar?

  • @jindlespog8045
    @jindlespog8045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The original Desmoiselle No. 20 was the only successful plane invented by Santos Dumont because he used a Wright style propeller and a Wright style wing warping. It only flew because santos dumont stole ideas from the Wright brothers.

    • @Isegawa2001
      @Isegawa2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Jindle, I don't think "stole" is the right word. Propeller and warping aside, the Demoiselle is mostly Dumont's original design. Taking elements from fellow aviators is something that happened very frequently at the time, and were it not for that the industry would've been stagnant. Dumont also never claimed to have invented wing-warping or the Wright's propeller. I think "borrowed" is a much better word.

    • @ErickSoares3
      @ErickSoares3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sources man? If he "stole" from the Brothers, why they didn't sued him and half of the Europe? Suing was the only thing that the Brothers knew to do... And anyway, the Demoiselle project started way before the Wright Brothers public presentation in Europe and Dumont plane was copied across the continent, due his public domain.

    • @silviocrespo4329
      @silviocrespo4329 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      flyer or liar?

  • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
    @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder if there's any original footage of Dumont flying with this plane in Paris? This plane could fly pretty well and he flew long distances with it. Imagine seeing this in the 1800's, it must've been jaw dropping