The paladins fight with the light. The light is an energy that is given to those willing to serve it, it's the opposite of void which is dark energy that twists and bends the mind . But just like any of the other magics, the light is just a primal force that is neither good nor bad. This is why the scarlet crusade was still able to use the light even though they destroyed everything that wasn't human. Hoped this helped a little bit.
classic blizzard story telling by now: But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe
@@leeroyjenkins7325 I think they are. Entertainment industry and media -> Freemasons -> Khazar mafia -> satanic elite -> “ascended masters” -> lucifer Read the Bible and see what it says is ‘the god of this world”. There’s a reason why selling your soul for riches and worldly power became a trope… follow the money
@Vile Disturbance I’m not religious. There is really a royal family (that DO believe in, and worship lucifer) that goes way back to biblical times. Humans are evil. And humans conspire. Just look at history. It doesn’t require you to be a nutcase to suspect this. It’s easily recognized in this world.
@Vile Disturbance "An atheist believes in nothing." "Anyone who believes in anything at all cannot call themselves atheists." Incorrect. An atheist simply doesn't believe in the existence of deities. That's literally it, that is the all-encompassing definition of "atheist". Anything beyond that is you embellishing it in order to make an argument from bias.
Even having grown up with Warcraft games, I still find 1 and 2 to be a slog. Most every mission feels the same and requires you to just whittle away at a large enemy base. WC3 has some truly amazing gameplay, though, with an enthralling story.
Honestly, I can't believe it, after watching so many videos that dig into the minutiae of each character we get to play, I finally got to see the actual setting of the events leading up to Warcraft 3. And there's still over an hour more to this video! Granted, I read a book here and there in the last 15 years. Really, bravo
I'd love to hear your take on the movie. Thanks for this series as a whole, by the way - been an entertaining watch through despite me already knowing all of the story beats that you recap. Love your art style for those segments, the effort shows.
Love your videos, I know you work really hard to create these. I hope your channel and videos get more views. :D Warcraft 3 deserved better than what it got in Reforged, it was the heart and soul of their company and it's sad that is how they treated their past creation.
Look up Eurobattle(dot)net for Warcraft 3 playable on a private/pirate server that basically acts as battlenet in a way. th-cam.com/video/zNQzEH4JgY4/w-d-xo.html I believe this link is the video with instructions to it as well as other services as well.
Great video. Thanks for putting in work. Didnt know I cared this much to pay attention that long. But I guess I'm a bigger warcraft 3 fan then I thought
Hell yeah! The best content creator is back. You're the reason I completed both WC1 and WC2 PS. How did the Book of Medivh and Skull of Gul'dan get from Draenor to Azeroth when they were used to close the portal?
Wow, that's really cool to hear, thank you! PS. I'm no Warcraft Scholar, but it looks like Khadgar just drops the skull it in the last cutscene of Beyond the Dark Portal, and since the demons had control of Draenor/Outland they would have been able to just pick up the Skull and bring it with them for the invasion. As for the book, Archimonde says it's "the only remaining book of Medivh" so that sounds to me like there was more than one. Again, I'm not an official source, but that's the way it seems from the material I've been through.
I hardly comment on TH-cam videos anymore, but I just wanted to say that I really hope your videos gain the attention they deserve. Your WarCraft (and Berserk) reviews are some of the best on the site. Keep up the fantastic work!
As someone that didn't know the first thing about warcraft's story/ lore before the video, I come back to this one a LOT. There's a lot of heart in your illustrations and I never would have expected the story to actually be this cool. Forever a classic
(46:12) I've play Warcraft 3 when I was in elementary school, and even when I wasn't good at it, Playing the game was one of my childhood experiences I will always cherish.
I just want to tell you how much I appreciate your effort in making the best game review I may have ever seen. Fuck it's good. I use it to refresh my lore these days.
What people had hoped Reforged would be: Improve the graphics to take advantage of new technological advancements, re-imagine the campaign with in-game dynamic cut-scenes (like they promised and showcased with the Cull of Stratholme mission), improve the map editor to be even more flexible, and mostly to re-invigorate the general public's attention. The result was mostly the opposite, because they scaled back budget heavily for the remaster. The graphic improvements were outsourced to another company stationed in Asia (I think it was Malaysia) and their experience was mostly with mobile game platforms IIRC. Warcraft graphics has always been stylized to cover for the technical demand on hardware, but the Reforged graphics didn't have that same charm. They were high fidelity (individually they looked quite nice) but on the battlefield they look more bland and you could not distinguish some unit types with a quick glance. Worse off was the poor optimization that still to this day cuts a decent PC's performance from 100+ fps on the old graphics to 20-50 fps on Reforged graphics - which subsequently means that basically no one plays with the updated graphics. The campaign had basically no showing of those dynamic cut-scenes and the final cut-scene battle between Arthas and Illidan at the foot of Icecrown (the Frozen Throne) - which in the original had to be made as an in-game render due to time restrictions, now in Reforged it is one of the worst rated cut-scenes in the game because of how the models are made and animated. The map editor didn't see any changes but the TOS got hammered hard to fit in line with Blizzard's new standards - this is more a loss of goodwill than it truly is a detraction from the Reforged version - but it retroactively chained any previous maps under Blizzard's control. And with basically nothing improved and the outrage it had caused, the public was not really re-invigorated or reinvested in Warcraft 3 - save for trash talking it. Worst of it all was the contamination of the old client and the old battle.net. You couldn't opt-out of all of Reforged's changes. You may not have cared one bit about the online PVP or custom maps, but the new client have destroyed or cut-off a lot of support for some of these custom games. One simple little issue is the custom maps that was RPG-like and used a save/load system to keep your character between sessions. These were mostly based on the player's username (to avoid theft, duplication and whatnot) but with the removal of the old battle.net, you had to use your new BattleTag ID, which even for those who kept the same name ruined that functionality because they tacked on those 5 numbers on the end. The release of Reforged has mostly retracted value from Warcraft 3. In a way that is impressive, but is also the reason why they got/get so much flak for it. There was a inside-commentary from one of the old WC3 devs who got invited back on the project for Reforged but then experienced how the project was scaled back. I can only recommend you watch it if you're interested, released in late 2021, early 2022: (collab between Abelhawk & DesignerDave on YT) th-cam.com/video/C_v-zonH91s/w-d-xo.html
as some one who played 2c3 for like 2 decades. I love the gyrocopter death sound. mainly because its so memorable for no reason lol. thats all I wanted to say. This video and it's contemporaries is really really good, love it. great stuff
Time-stamps 22:10, 25:40 - 😂 The art and memes/jokes are top-notch, my guy! 29:50, 31:34 - Differences This is an incredible review, especially since you reviewed the previous entries. Your efforts are appreciated, immensely.
As a newer wow player who didn’t get to play any Warcraft titles, these videos are so cool they make me want to buy Warcraft 3 like 20 years late. I’ve watched all three warcraft pundit reviews and this is the one I find myself rewatching for its incredible pacing and story telling. Keep up the good work!
I believe that an often overlooked component of The Frozen Throne expansion are the upgrades to the map editor. If i recall corectly, before Frozen Throne there was no way to create custom abilities. You could only create custom units and give them the existing abilities. Also, there was no way to increase the hero level cap on a custom map. The amount of user generated content that exists for Frozen Throne would not have been possible with juat Reign of Chaos.
Loved your review. Hearing all this soundtrack after so much years made me tear up. Warcraft 3 + Frozen Throne will always be one of my favorite and most special PC games. It was just so awesome, so big and expansive, the graphics at the time were otherworldly, the story and the cinematics, oh god... I can remember the arc of Arthas hitting me so hard (Maybe I was at the right age and I didn't see anything quite like it before). So much good memories of attending my internet cafe daily until I had the chance to get my own copy of the game. I keep until this day my physical copy with so much respect.
Finally ! a well done video that I can share that can finally get this new generation to understand why I fucking love Warcraft 3 ! The passion in your video is unreal my man , and like you I never got into WOW , just couldnt get into it....
I understand a little bit of your issue with how the Orcs are changed from how they are from the previous WarCraft games to how they are in WarCraft III. At the same time, I didn't really have a issue with the Orcs becoming the good guys, or with the idea that the surviving Orcs from WarCraft III suffered a crisis of faith and identity after being cut off from the Burning Legion. After the Orcs' defeat during Tides of Darkness, I think it makes sense for the Orcish Horde to change their direction when mindless demonic frenzy didn't help them. Ever since Thrall was introduced in the ill-fated unfinished adventure game, Lord of the Clans, the idea of an Orc slave becoming the Orcish equivalent of Spartacus and steering the surviving Orcs away from the mindless frenzy of the previous Horde was pretty compelling. Thrall's Orcs may not have the cool units or perks the Orcs had in WarCraft 1 and 2, but the Orcs are no less cool under Thrall's command. It's a shame the Undead Scourge didn't utilize undead versions of the Orcs' supernatural units, like the Necrolyte, the Warlock, the Death Knight, and the Ogre Mage. The Scourge does have Death Knight heroes, and Prince Arthas becomes a Death Knight, but the Scourge's Death Knights don't have the same cool abilities as the Orc Death Knight. Since Ner'zhul was once an Orc shaman before he became the Lich King, it would've been a perfect opportunity to utilize some classic evil Orc units from previous WarCraft games for the Scourge. It would've also been cool if the Scourge had made use of undead versions of the Orcs' Giant Turtles. In regards to the Orcs being corrupted by Demons who are just evil for the sake evil: I don't think the Orcs were corrupted. I think their past leaders willingly wanted to work with the Demons, and then found out later that they couldn't function without the Demons after they lost the Second War. Demons are demons, so I wouldn't expect them to have any motivation other than being bad. The closest thing I've seen to complex demons with motivations other than being bad is Marduk from Sacrifice. Marduk is a demon lord who destroys worlds, but he also plans out their destruction overtime with careful consideration before he destroys them. He rationalizes his destruction of worlds is due to the worlds being unworthy of surviving, and that a world is unworthy if it is a reflection of himself. Milton's Satan from Paradise Lost is another kind complex demon that I have yet to see replicated in video game form. I can understand the irritation with the story idea of a race only becoming bad because they were corrupted, since I myself find it more interesting to have villains become bad mainly through their own choices other than because something else made them so. Even Myth: The Fallen Lords and Legacy of Kain had instances where evil characters only became bad due to outside forces. While I think the Orcish Horde in WarCraft 1 and 2 were pretty bad and chose to be bad, I also think the Orcs had members among them who weren't all like that, and that it was inevitable for an Orc like Thrall to steer the Orcs away from the Tides of Darkness Orcs. Even though I love the final product of WarCraft III, I am curious as to what WarCraft III would've been like if it had been consistent with previous WarCraft games and didn't add so many contrived misunderstandings to the plot.
3:09 WHOA! :O I wish I had this manual when I was a kid. I got my CDs from a cousin and I don't think he had the manual either (he certainly doesn't remember by now, I'm not even gonna ask him). If I had had it back then, I would've read it for _hours and hours and hours._
Mid-late 90s RTS games was my childhood. Though this one hit a bit late for me. It would be interesting to see you review Starcraft and Brood War in context of it being a technological and conceptual link between WC2 and 3. So much of what impressed you about WC3 was brought to that level of skillful implementation through Starcraft. In context of the time, WC3 (and Age of Mythology) was on the very tail end of the peak of RTS popularity. They were probably the most fully realized concepts of the 90s RTS style game genre.
Your love for the original visuals of the game isn't purely nostolgic there is many technical reasons as to why, with Reforged. a more humble and faithful visual overhaul would help both the custom games community and curb problems like maintaining higher frames, visual clarity and distinction, less space, and faster loading. Something akin to heros of the storm i guess. that game is 17GB and look gorgeous compared to W3Reforged that's 27GB.
Even though they made the Orc from evil race to misunderstood, you still have the Undead campaign where you play as the bad guys, AS OPPOSE TO STARCRAFT 2!!
This game not only got some of the cast members from the Metal Gear Solid Series, but it also has a lot of Bang Zoom Entertainment Voice Actors too like Michael Michonnie, Richard Ecpar, David Lodge, Lex Lang and the Late Bob Papenbrook, father of Bryce Papenbrook.
There's an alternate timeline where the DEMONS became the playable 5th faction of Warcraft III. There's a lot of concept art in the collectors edition of WCIII dedicated to them for that purpose.
Ha ha, I hope to upload a bit more frequently with some smaller projects. Now that I don't have this looming over my head anymore I'll have a lot more freedom to venture into new things.
One of the most remarkable things about Warcraft 3 is that each facet of the game is good enough to satisfy you. If you just want to play the campaign, that's good enough to pay the price tag and will leave you satisfied; and so is just skirmish (vs ai or players), and so is the competitive gaming, and so is modded maps. While sure, I think people are missing out if they skip out on any one of those things, I also don't think they should be upset that they didn't pursue them because there's plenty of content to enjoy without them. In short, yes you should check out online play (or even just join skirmishes as an obs!) and you should play modded maps, but you don't have to if you don't want; the campaign is basically a full and complete game by itself!
That video and your channel in general have criminally low views/subs.. I feel sorry for you man, considering the amount of work you put into making videos, especially this one. Thank you for making those and keep up the great job, wish you tons of views and subs.
I'd assume someone clarified this but I just will too. Paladins in the Warcraft universe do not draw powers from gods, but instead pull power from their faith in something. Be that themselves, like your standard paladins in the world, or they have faith in something greater then themselves, like how draenei, primarily the light forged ones, have their faith in the Naru. The blood elves also have their faith in a Naru but it's a captured one, but that doesn't really matter, the thing that one's faith into doesn't nessicarily equivalate their faith, their power comes from their willingness and devotion to what they deem their "light", also I think they have something to do with drawing their faith from the power of the Sunwell too I believe. This is why when a paldin says, "Put your faith in The Light!" what they really are meaning is, to have the faith in yourself to achieve and go past this strife. This is why evil paladins can exist in the Warcraft universe, a paladin doesn't need to be of an honor bound code or be of good heart or be any type of good at all, a paladin just needs to posses the ability to believe and put their faith in a belief so much that they can break limits. This is why the Scarlet Crusade existed, their belief was that humans needed to have rule over everything, that is why paladins exist in an order that to most would consider bad. There's a lot of other things that could be said too, I just love how Warcraft paladins work.
Sargeras created Eredars by corrupting Draenei. And Sargeras got hopeless about he's crusade by learning the Old Gods and Void Lords, form the Nathrezims he captured.
I loved this dude! I especially love that you touched on the orcs being retconned in such a way that made them less interesting. I remember I wanted to play the ol' big bad orcs when the game first released, not these green native american knock offs... They are without a doubt the weakest part of the WC3 narrative for me, but I still love this game to bits. Thanks for the video!
As someone who is about to start a youtube "longform" review channel I appreciate the effort you put into this video and wish you were still updating. You have a good grasp of what makes a game click and you obviously put a lot of effort into your craft. This video deserves more views and your channel deserves more subscribers, I hope you are doing well.
Great video overall, i love how you addressed upkeep as something that has an intended implementation instead of saying "oh no its just archaic and it was made because the game couldn't handle infinite units." I'm fine that you dont care about Dota, i dont either, lol, but i adore many many high quality custom created maps for warcraft 3, and custom campaigns that match the quality or surpass standard campaigns, aside from being able to provide voice acting i guess. though its worth pointing out that this custom content is what provided War3 its longevity. And uh, what else. SYLVANAS SUCKS. and um... your art is nice i love it. you used lorecraft font. the part you did when Garithos died had me rollin. The EULA issue is uh, very interesting, just making you know that, they couldn't really enforce it on us as much as they'd like, but i'll go ahead and say their official words was indeed kinda insulting. though if you check the eula presented in the games World Editor the 2003 one when you open it you'll see even the old eula claims outlandish things such as ownership of the creators moral rights which is odd. Once again, thanks for your review and the ... rather high production value you put into this, take care my man. and have a nice day.
Man, I was kind of interested in this series and now I've bought myself a copy of the game. I appreciate the original release, so that is what I went with. This video is really good content. Hope you start doing a lore series of Warcraft.
1:30:45 Three years later, and Reforged is nearly as busted as it was at release, with only some maintenance & stability patches, that were discontinued in early 2021 because the team handling Reforged at Blizzard was disbanded and its members either relocated to other projects, or were laid off.
In my opinion, some of the imperfect aspects of the game include the sizing of units or pathing, your "armies"(small squads) are frustrating to manage at large scales and enclosed spaces. The camera is also too close, probably cause this was Blizzard's first 3D game. The camera also makes the unit management harder.
it's a fantastic game and one of my most favorite. but you know what game would be the most amazing to hear a review from you? Gothic, if you could make a review of the game or the entire franchise it would be swell!
Illidan became blind because sargarud currupted him with promises of power beyond that of any one else. so his lust for powet he betrayed his brother and tyrande. so he traded in his eyes for demon magic eyes. then thought he use this power to become a demi god of sorts. read the book well of eternity. such a good book. my fav is the time traveling duo. rhonin the red headed mage and broxigar the orc.
The paladins fight with the light. The light is an energy that is given to those willing to serve it, it's the opposite of void which is dark energy that twists and bends the mind . But just like any of the other magics, the light is just a primal force that is neither good nor bad. This is why the scarlet crusade was still able to use the light even though they destroyed everything that wasn't human. Hoped this helped a little bit.
As a paladin, yes it did help
Nah, it's cause the light is based af
He's back!
Back, again
classic blizzard story telling by now:
But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe
But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe
But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe
But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe
But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe
But wait, he isn't that bad, he's just controlled by a far more evil and powerful foe
Kind of like Blizzard itself, don't you think?
Maybe they're trying to tell us something.
@@leeroyjenkins7325 I think they are. Entertainment industry and media ->
Freemasons -> Khazar mafia -> satanic elite -> “ascended masters” -> lucifer
Read the Bible and see what it says is ‘the god of this world”. There’s a reason why selling your soul for riches and worldly power became a trope… follow the money
While true:
beControlledBySomeGreaterEvil(hero)
@Vile Disturbance I’m not religious. There is really a royal family (that DO believe in, and worship lucifer) that goes way back to biblical times.
Humans are evil. And humans conspire. Just look at history. It doesn’t require you to be a nutcase to suspect this. It’s easily recognized in this world.
@Vile Disturbance "An atheist believes in nothing."
"Anyone who believes in anything at all cannot call themselves atheists."
Incorrect. An atheist simply doesn't believe in the existence of deities. That's literally it, that is the all-encompassing definition of "atheist". Anything beyond that is you embellishing it in order to make an argument from bias.
What a time to release this. I just completed Warcraft: Orcs & Humans.
Damn. How did you get through the gameplay?
@@jackdaniels1460 Sheer perseverance.
@@Schlowbro Then you, my friend, are made of steel. I am currently in mission 9 of the orc campaign now. Decided to have a go.
Even having grown up with Warcraft games, I still find 1 and 2 to be a slog. Most every mission feels the same and requires you to just whittle away at a large enemy base. WC3 has some truly amazing gameplay, though, with an enthralling story.
@@ericstaples7220 wcw is gilded in nostalgia
The quality of this video is just insane. It must have been one of the best reviews I have ever saw.
Great video, that art work especially looks like it took a lot of time and effort, it's fantastic! Really hope you get more recognition from this.
Awesome review especially seeing how much your mspaint art has evolved since the first game.
Blizzards story telling along with their game play was way beyond their time..one of the best games ever
I stumbled across this randomly, it's so good! Hopefully this means the TH-cam algorithm has picked it up.
Honestly, I can't believe it, after watching so many videos that dig into the minutiae of each character we get to play, I finally got to see the actual setting of the events leading up to Warcraft 3. And there's still over an hour more to this video! Granted, I read a book here and there in the last 15 years.
Really, bravo
I'd love to hear your take on the movie. Thanks for this series as a whole, by the way - been an entertaining watch through despite me already knowing all of the story beats that you recap.
Love your art style for those segments, the effort shows.
It was stupid. Hollywood created scenes for clickbait with no relevance to the epic story that is Warcraft and tried to string it together retardedly.
Holy shit! I had subbed over the last year after hearing a bunch of recommendations, really happy to see you back!
Really great Video! Can't believe this doesn't have millions of views. btw, I watched it till the end .
really liked these warcraft reviews :D thank you for making them!
I like how you were initially gonna do this around 2015, but man what a comeback video.
I never thought about just how often "corruption" is brought up in the lore of Warcraft.
We don't think about corruption. We deal with it every expansion lmao
Original WC deserves the effort and passion you put into this project. Really reminded me of some great times. Thank you!
Love your videos, I know you work really hard to create these. I hope your channel and videos get more views. :D
Warcraft 3 deserved better than what it got in Reforged, it was the heart and soul of their company and it's sad that is how they treated their past creation.
Look up Eurobattle(dot)net for Warcraft 3 playable on a private/pirate server that basically acts as battlenet in a way.
th-cam.com/video/zNQzEH4JgY4/w-d-xo.html
I believe this link is the video with instructions to it as well as other services as well.
Great video. Thanks for putting in work. Didnt know I cared this much to pay attention that long. But I guess I'm a bigger warcraft 3 fan then I thought
That was really really well done, thank you!
Hell yeah! The best content creator is back. You're the reason I completed both WC1 and WC2
PS. How did the Book of Medivh and Skull of Gul'dan get from Draenor to Azeroth when they were used to close the portal?
Wow, that's really cool to hear, thank you!
PS. I'm no Warcraft Scholar, but it looks like Khadgar just drops the skull it in the last cutscene of Beyond the Dark Portal, and since the demons had control of Draenor/Outland they would have been able to just pick up the Skull and bring it with them for the invasion. As for the book, Archimonde says it's "the only remaining book of Medivh" so that sounds to me like there was more than one. Again, I'm not an official source, but that's the way it seems from the material I've been through.
@@Variabull Yes, that makes sense, thanks!
I hardly comment on TH-cam videos anymore, but I just wanted to say that I really hope your videos gain the attention they deserve. Your WarCraft (and Berserk) reviews are some of the best on the site. Keep up the fantastic work!
As someone that didn't know the first thing about warcraft's story/ lore before the video, I come back to this one a LOT. There's a lot of heart in your illustrations and I never would have expected the story to actually be this cool. Forever a classic
so much work done for this video.
your channel is so underrated, it makes me sad
(46:12) I've play Warcraft 3 when I was in elementary school, and even when I wasn't good at it, Playing the game was one of my childhood experiences I will always cherish.
I just want to tell you how much I appreciate your effort in making the best game review I may have ever seen. Fuck it's good. I use it to refresh my lore these days.
Oh man, what a good time to be alive to watch some good content
What people had hoped Reforged would be: Improve the graphics to take advantage of new technological advancements, re-imagine the campaign with in-game dynamic cut-scenes (like they promised and showcased with the Cull of Stratholme mission), improve the map editor to be even more flexible, and mostly to re-invigorate the general public's attention.
The result was mostly the opposite, because they scaled back budget heavily for the remaster. The graphic improvements were outsourced to another company stationed in Asia (I think it was Malaysia) and their experience was mostly with mobile game platforms IIRC. Warcraft graphics has always been stylized to cover for the technical demand on hardware, but the Reforged graphics didn't have that same charm. They were high fidelity (individually they looked quite nice) but on the battlefield they look more bland and you could not distinguish some unit types with a quick glance. Worse off was the poor optimization that still to this day cuts a decent PC's performance from 100+ fps on the old graphics to 20-50 fps on Reforged graphics - which subsequently means that basically no one plays with the updated graphics.
The campaign had basically no showing of those dynamic cut-scenes and the final cut-scene battle between Arthas and Illidan at the foot of Icecrown (the Frozen Throne) - which in the original had to be made as an in-game render due to time restrictions, now in Reforged it is one of the worst rated cut-scenes in the game because of how the models are made and animated.
The map editor didn't see any changes but the TOS got hammered hard to fit in line with Blizzard's new standards - this is more a loss of goodwill than it truly is a detraction from the Reforged version - but it retroactively chained any previous maps under Blizzard's control.
And with basically nothing improved and the outrage it had caused, the public was not really re-invigorated or reinvested in Warcraft 3 - save for trash talking it.
Worst of it all was the contamination of the old client and the old battle.net. You couldn't opt-out of all of Reforged's changes.
You may not have cared one bit about the online PVP or custom maps, but the new client have destroyed or cut-off a lot of support for some of these custom games. One simple little issue is the custom maps that was RPG-like and used a save/load system to keep your character between sessions. These were mostly based on the player's username (to avoid theft, duplication and whatnot) but with the removal of the old battle.net, you had to use your new BattleTag ID, which even for those who kept the same name ruined that functionality because they tacked on those 5 numbers on the end.
The release of Reforged has mostly retracted value from Warcraft 3. In a way that is impressive, but is also the reason why they got/get so much flak for it.
There was a inside-commentary from one of the old WC3 devs who got invited back on the project for Reforged but then experienced how the project was scaled back. I can only recommend you watch it if you're interested, released in late 2021, early 2022: (collab between Abelhawk & DesignerDave on YT)
th-cam.com/video/C_v-zonH91s/w-d-xo.html
as some one who played 2c3 for like 2 decades. I love the gyrocopter death sound. mainly because its so memorable for no reason lol. thats all I wanted to say. This video and it's contemporaries is really really good, love it. great stuff
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22:10, 25:40 - 😂 The art and memes/jokes are top-notch, my guy!
29:50, 31:34 - Differences
This is an incredible review, especially since you reviewed the previous entries. Your efforts are appreciated, immensely.
HE RETURNS
As a newer wow player who didn’t get to play any Warcraft titles, these videos are so cool they make me want to buy Warcraft 3 like 20 years late. I’ve watched all three warcraft pundit reviews and this is the one I find myself rewatching for its incredible pacing and story telling. Keep up the good work!
Warcraft 3 holds up fairly well for an "old" rts. I can wholeheartedly recommend it.
1 & 2 are a lot rougher from a modern perspective.
Warcraft 3 is my favourite rts of all time. Still has a big folowing but reforged kind of borked a lot of things
I love your Warcraft lore explanations. Hope you'll do more in the future.
wow! what a video and thorough review my man! respect!
I believe that an often overlooked component of The Frozen Throne expansion are the upgrades to the map editor. If i recall corectly, before Frozen Throne there was no way to create custom abilities. You could only create custom units and give them the existing abilities. Also, there was no way to increase the hero level cap on a custom map. The amount of user generated content that exists for Frozen Throne would not have been possible with juat Reign of Chaos.
Thanx so much!! As a long time fan of all three games, this brings back so many memories! Excellent work!
Okay, there is NO way I’d call the Scourge “anti-heroes”. Their fight with the Burning Legion is very much a Villain vs Villain one.
Loved your review. Hearing all this soundtrack after so much years made me tear up. Warcraft 3 + Frozen Throne will always be one of my favorite and most special PC games. It was just so awesome, so big and expansive, the graphics at the time were otherworldly, the story and the cinematics, oh god... I can remember the arc of Arthas hitting me so hard (Maybe I was at the right age and I didn't see anything quite like it before). So much good memories of attending my internet cafe daily until I had the chance to get my own copy of the game. I keep until this day my physical copy with so much respect.
best, most amazing reviw of this game i've seen, a whole lot of effort was put into this too, well done sir
outstanding! feeding the algorithm and boosting this video. high comedy, high detail
During a Pandemic a hero returns.
Finally ! a well done video that I can share that can finally get this new generation to understand why I fucking love Warcraft 3 ! The passion in your video is unreal my man , and like you I never got into WOW , just couldnt get into it....
I understand a little bit of your issue with how the Orcs are changed from how they are from the previous WarCraft games to how they are in WarCraft III. At the same time, I didn't really have a issue with the Orcs becoming the good guys, or with the idea that the surviving Orcs from WarCraft III suffered a crisis of faith and identity after being cut off from the Burning Legion. After the Orcs' defeat during Tides of Darkness, I think it makes sense for the Orcish Horde to change their direction when mindless demonic frenzy didn't help them. Ever since Thrall was introduced in the ill-fated unfinished adventure game, Lord of the Clans, the idea of an Orc slave becoming the Orcish equivalent of Spartacus and steering the surviving Orcs away from the mindless frenzy of the previous Horde was pretty compelling. Thrall's Orcs may not have the cool units or perks the Orcs had in WarCraft 1 and 2, but the Orcs are no less cool under Thrall's command.
It's a shame the Undead Scourge didn't utilize undead versions of the Orcs' supernatural units, like the Necrolyte, the Warlock, the Death Knight, and the Ogre Mage. The Scourge does have Death Knight heroes, and Prince Arthas becomes a Death Knight, but the Scourge's Death Knights don't have the same cool abilities as the Orc Death Knight. Since Ner'zhul was once an Orc shaman before he became the Lich King, it would've been a perfect opportunity to utilize some classic evil Orc units from previous WarCraft games for the Scourge. It would've also been cool if the Scourge had made use of undead versions of the Orcs' Giant Turtles.
In regards to the Orcs being corrupted by Demons who are just evil for the sake evil: I don't think the Orcs were corrupted. I think their past leaders willingly wanted to work with the Demons, and then found out later that they couldn't function without the Demons after they lost the Second War. Demons are demons, so I wouldn't expect them to have any motivation other than being bad. The closest thing I've seen to complex demons with motivations other than being bad is Marduk from Sacrifice. Marduk is a demon lord who destroys worlds, but he also plans out their destruction overtime with careful consideration before he destroys them. He rationalizes his destruction of worlds is due to the worlds being unworthy of surviving, and that a world is unworthy if it is a reflection of himself. Milton's Satan from Paradise Lost is another kind complex demon that I have yet to see replicated in video game form.
I can understand the irritation with the story idea of a race only becoming bad because they were corrupted, since I myself find it more interesting to have villains become bad mainly through their own choices other than because something else made them so. Even Myth: The Fallen Lords and Legacy of Kain had instances where evil characters only became bad due to outside forces. While I think the Orcish Horde in WarCraft 1 and 2 were pretty bad and chose to be bad, I also think the Orcs had members among them who weren't all like that, and that it was inevitable for an Orc like Thrall to steer the Orcs away from the Tides of Darkness Orcs. Even though I love the final product of WarCraft III, I am curious as to what WarCraft III would've been like if it had been consistent with previous WarCraft games and didn't add so many contrived misunderstandings to the plot.
Really good video essays. Please keep them coming!
Great illustrations!
Highly under appreciated video
Starcraft was the stepping stone between WC2: BTD and WC3.
You see the advanced plot integration in Starcraft and especially in brood war.
3:09 WHOA! :O I wish I had this manual when I was a kid. I got my CDs from a cousin and I don't think he had the manual either (he certainly doesn't remember by now, I'm not even gonna ask him). If I had had it back then, I would've read it for _hours and hours and hours._
jaina chill study lofi hophop made me laugh so hard, good video man keep it up
Fantastic video, it really should have 10 times as many views. They should be teaching kids this stuff in school.
42:36 me too, that cutscence is so awesome
Mid-late 90s RTS games was my childhood. Though this one hit a bit late for me.
It would be interesting to see you review Starcraft and Brood War in context of it being a technological and conceptual link between WC2 and 3. So much of what impressed you about WC3 was brought to that level of skillful implementation through Starcraft. In context of the time, WC3 (and Age of Mythology) was on the very tail end of the peak of RTS popularity. They were probably the most fully realized concepts of the 90s RTS style game genre.
Your love for the original visuals of the game isn't purely nostolgic there is many technical reasons as to why, with Reforged. a more humble and faithful visual overhaul would help both the custom games community and curb problems like maintaining higher frames, visual clarity and distinction, less space, and faster loading.
Something akin to heros of the storm i guess. that game is 17GB and look gorgeous compared to W3Reforged that's 27GB.
Even though they made the Orc from evil race to misunderstood, you still have the Undead campaign where you play as the bad guys, AS OPPOSE TO STARCRAFT 2!!
This is exactly what I searched for
Thank you
Chef's kiss
Time for my Autism powers!
8:15 The first intelligent races were the Trolls (and possibly the Aqir but that's from later material)
Variabull do Starcraft, Brood War, and all 3 SC2??
This game not only got some of the cast members from the Metal Gear Solid Series, but it also has a lot of Bang Zoom Entertainment Voice Actors too like Michael Michonnie, Richard Ecpar, David Lodge, Lex Lang and the Late Bob Papenbrook, father of Bryce Papenbrook.
There's an alternate timeline where the DEMONS became the playable 5th faction of Warcraft III. There's a lot of concept art in the collectors edition of WCIII dedicated to them for that purpose.
3 YEARS 3 GOD DAMM LONG YEARS AND ITS FINALLY HERE!!!!!!
This is really good work seriously this video is good stuff I hope you see more from you.
Nice new video, see you next year lads
Ha ha, I hope to upload a bit more frequently with some smaller projects. Now that I don't have this looming over my head anymore I'll have a lot more freedom to venture into new things.
absolute mad lad, review warcraft 3 in 2020!!!!!!
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One of the most remarkable things about Warcraft 3 is that each facet of the game is good enough to satisfy you. If you just want to play the campaign, that's good enough to pay the price tag and will leave you satisfied; and so is just skirmish (vs ai or players), and so is the competitive gaming, and so is modded maps. While sure, I think people are missing out if they skip out on any one of those things, I also don't think they should be upset that they didn't pursue them because there's plenty of content to enjoy without them.
In short, yes you should check out online play (or even just join skirmishes as an obs!) and you should play modded maps, but you don't have to if you don't want; the campaign is basically a full and complete game by itself!
Subbed for the Azumanga Daioh reference ❤
Me and some of my friend played this game in multiplayer lan game so many times, good old times. Miss those times.
That video and your channel in general have criminally low views/subs.. I feel sorry for you man, considering the amount of work you put into making videos, especially this one. Thank you for making those and keep up the great job, wish you tons of views and subs.
Love your vids
Been waiting for this.
The artwork and s4ory telling is hilarious and glorious at the same time
This video needs more views.
They came from... behind!
They came from... behind!
They came from... behind!
They came from... behind!
I'd assume someone clarified this but I just will too. Paladins in the Warcraft universe do not draw powers from gods, but instead pull power from their faith in something. Be that themselves, like your standard paladins in the world, or they have faith in something greater then themselves, like how draenei, primarily the light forged ones, have their faith in the Naru. The blood elves also have their faith in a Naru but it's a captured one, but that doesn't really matter, the thing that one's faith into doesn't nessicarily equivalate their faith, their power comes from their willingness and devotion to what they deem their "light", also I think they have something to do with drawing their faith from the power of the Sunwell too I believe. This is why when a paldin says, "Put your faith in The Light!" what they really are meaning is, to have the faith in yourself to achieve and go past this strife. This is why evil paladins can exist in the Warcraft universe, a paladin doesn't need to be of an honor bound code or be of good heart or be any type of good at all, a paladin just needs to posses the ability to believe and put their faith in a belief so much that they can break limits. This is why the Scarlet Crusade existed, their belief was that humans needed to have rule over everything, that is why paladins exist in an order that to most would consider bad.
There's a lot of other things that could be said too, I just love how Warcraft paladins work.
Holy shit! I didn't expect this!
Movie review sounds good. I hope you do it
Sargeras created Eredars by corrupting Draenei.
And Sargeras got hopeless about he's crusade by learning the Old Gods and Void Lords, form the Nathrezims he captured.
Math, science, history, unraveling the mystery that all started with a large kapow. Kapow!
Finally!
I loved this dude! I especially love that you touched on the orcs being retconned in such a way that made them less interesting. I remember I wanted to play the ol' big bad orcs when the game first released, not these green native american knock offs... They are without a doubt the weakest part of the WC3 narrative for me, but I still love this game to bits. Thanks for the video!
As someone who is about to start a youtube "longform" review channel I appreciate the effort you put into this video and wish you were still updating. You have a good grasp of what makes a game click and you obviously put a lot of effort into your craft. This video deserves more views and your channel deserves more subscribers, I hope you are doing well.
Legit still one of the best competitive RTS of all time!
Great video overall, i love how you addressed upkeep as something that has an intended implementation instead of saying "oh no its just archaic and it was made because the game couldn't handle infinite units."
I'm fine that you dont care about Dota, i dont either, lol, but i adore many many high quality custom created maps for warcraft 3, and custom campaigns that match the quality or surpass standard campaigns, aside from being able to provide voice acting i guess. though its worth pointing out that this custom content is what provided War3 its longevity.
And uh, what else. SYLVANAS SUCKS. and um... your art is nice i love it. you used lorecraft font.
the part you did when Garithos died had me rollin.
The EULA issue is uh, very interesting, just making you know that, they couldn't really enforce it on us as much as they'd like, but i'll go ahead and say their official words was indeed kinda insulting. though if you check the eula presented in the games World Editor the 2003 one when you open it you'll see even the old eula claims outlandish things such as ownership of the creators moral rights which is odd.
Once again, thanks for your review and the ... rather high production value you put into this, take care my man. and have a nice day.
Man, I was kind of interested in this series and now I've bought myself a copy of the game. I appreciate the original release, so that is what I went with. This video is really good content. Hope you start doing a lore series of Warcraft.
Soundtrack is just 100/100 thank you for this music blizzard
Wow, as I was listening to the story of Sargeras and Co., I had to check if this was still a WarCraft video and not a 40k one
Impressive that you made all those drawings
That's part of what made this take so long. Glad you enjoyed!
2:20 but Chris Metzen did at least get to publish some of his story work for Blizzard, in a little-known game called "StarCraft"
Ah yes, that's a nice Georgia O'Keeffe
piece that demon is coming through at 6:17
1:30:45 Three years later, and Reforged is nearly as busted as it was at release, with only some maintenance & stability patches, that were discontinued in early 2021 because the team handling Reforged at Blizzard was disbanded and its members either relocated to other projects, or were laid off.
49:41 I think you mean: He enlists the help of some independent contractors to make sure the ships are up to code
Warcraft Worldbuilding: It's corrupted turtles all the way down
I love this Video.
The Gyrocopters have the best SFX in the game!
In my opinion, some of the imperfect aspects of the game include the sizing of units or pathing, your "armies"(small squads) are frustrating to manage at large scales and enclosed spaces.
The camera is also too close, probably cause this was Blizzard's first 3D game. The camera also makes the unit management harder.
@Kobe Ryan I'm fairly sure there were other 3D RTS games of the same time that did this stuff better.
@Kobe Ryan doing well doesn't mean something is good, lol.
Anyway, I'm just listing minor flaws, I'm not saying Warcraft is trash garbage?
Nice review
May the algorithm bless you
it's a fantastic game and one of my most favorite. but you know what game would be the most amazing to hear a review from you? Gothic, if you could make a review of the game or the entire franchise it would be swell!
this was the best rts game apart from red alert
but me and mates played this through high school doing comps etc then dday came
some good times
I've played both Warcraft 2 & 3 completely. Sadly I did not get the chance to play Warcraft 1 and I can't find it anywhere.
It's available on GOG.
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Illidan became blind because sargarud currupted him with promises of power beyond that of any one else. so his lust for powet he betrayed his brother and tyrande. so he traded in his eyes for demon magic eyes. then thought he use this power to become a demi god of sorts.
read the book well of eternity. such a good book. my fav is the time traveling duo. rhonin the red headed mage and broxigar the orc.
Great video man. You are smart, funny and talented, I'm sure you'll make it in the entertainment business if you aren't already.