Why do Autonomous Cars Look Like Kitchen Appliances?

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  • This is an industrial design analysis about the potential choices that designers have made around autonomous vehicles. The focus is on Cruise, Zoox, and Waymo. Getting your license and driving your car used to be a rite of passage. It was your ticket to freedom. The US was without question, a car culture. But with economic and cultural shifts towards digital entertainment and interaction, this has changed. Autonomous vehicles are capitalizing on these shifts, and their designs are informed by fundamentally different use cases and product architectures.
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  • @Design.Theory
    @Design.Theory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

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    • @fortheloveofnoise9298
      @fortheloveofnoise9298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just turned 27 but I would chose my car over my phone any day. Heck, ide rather have a car than a home. Freedom of movement is the most important thing in life besides love. I will probably keep my 1996 Camaro Z28 6 speed manual convertible forever, one of the last cars of an era.

    • @chancebutler6472
      @chancebutler6472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      everything you say is wrong lmao especially regarding your dear nation and role models

  • @DiogeneDeSin0pe
    @DiogeneDeSin0pe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    Horse drawn vehicles also had self driving abilities, some horses would follow the command "Go home" and be able to make there way back home if it was a common path.

    • @PirateCat822
      @PirateCat822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      They're biodegradable too

    • @istvanczap3004
      @istvanczap3004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I heard such stories from my grandfather, that some guy would go to the pub with horse carriage, get drunk and the horse would take him home :D

    • @simianto9957
      @simianto9957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think those "toaster cars" look like stagecoaches as well. Especially 6:46, with 2 benches mirroring each other.

    • @yay-cat
      @yay-cat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@istvanczap3004 I’m guessing from your name that you’re from the other side of the planet (I’m south africa 🇿🇦) but it’s cool how the story about the drunk mans horse is universal. I’ve heard a version where the horse would go into the mans living room 😹

    • @istvanczap3004
      @istvanczap3004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@yay-cat I'm from Hungary, so we are on opposite hemispheres :)
      It is always fun to find the odd similarities between some random cultures :)

  • @LiatKolink
    @LiatKolink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I'm convinced the future is with autonomous cars. Not because they're cool or anything. But because corporations have a vested interest in keeping the status quo rather than letting trains take over.

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      autonomous trains exist too, so we can have the best of both worlds!

    • @realAlexChoi
      @realAlexChoi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@InventorZahranAutonomous trains are more feasible than autonomous cars though

  • @kausthubhtsr9636
    @kausthubhtsr9636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    "these lines are almost like a strained muscles of a predator..." wow, a great analysis as always!! It's great to hear about the other aspects of design...😃👌

  • @kylehazachode
    @kylehazachode 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    As a postal worker, we were taught that the boxy shape and colors of the LLV postal truck instinctively makes drivers drive safer and cautiously without even knowing. The same goes for school busses. When I see these autonomous cars, I naturally feel like this is a slow, safe, occupational car. Just by the look of it, I know I should drive more cautiously as I approach it.

  • @susan5431
    @susan5431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    As a keen long-time driver, your analysis here is especially fascinating. The shift from car as almost-avatar to utilitarian device, and the phone as a shape/object of safety and exploration are two new perspectives for me. Another great video!

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well said! Thanks for checking it out.

  • @atomotron
    @atomotron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    We in Soviet Russia had a design idea back in the 70s I think, which goes like this: pedestrians need to know if driver sees them and lets them cross. This is not always solved by the eye contact with the driver, because of things like weather and time of the day. The solution? Add green lamps on the face of the car, in parallel with the brake lights. That's it, that's all.
    The idea had no fruition back then, because there were almost no private car production in USSR and most of the cars tried to mimic the European and American cars. I also guess there were international regulations and standards about the car lights which couldn't be changed by such unproven idea. But the idea is still there nonetheless. Just use it.
    Yeah I know what you are thinking. What about humanization? We need to make a research! Guys, stop. You are overthinking it. A simple and reliable indication is always better than some cognitive stuff you are not even sure how it works. Do elevators need any humanization beyond what they currently have? These things are really scary, mind you. Just make a glass floor and see for yourself how scary it really is. I'm referring to time and efforts we are spending to something as trivial as a shape, when in reality we need to work on contents, like making the transportation safer by limiting or even eliminating user errors.

    • @SuperFroakie82
      @SuperFroakie82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dang that does sound like a pretty good idea

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don't know. When I let people cross I just use my headlight flasher just like everybody else. Why invent a new solution at all when we already have one that works and is widely accepted?

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ThePC007 Okay, no problem with that when you are the driver, but: 1) not very friendly for pedestrian, 2) it's not automatic. Let's imagine we made it automatic, on autonomous car. The crossings turns into disco ground, don't you think?
      Both solutions have their issues:
      For green lights, drivers may mistake them for a traffic lights (although I don't see a problem with making them visible ONLY for pedestrians and not visible from the driver's seat).
      For flashers, they are poorly suited for massive use - too many flashing on the road is kinda aggressive and disturbing. But yeah, anything is better than nothing.

    • @Josh_Quillan
      @Josh_Quillan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ThePC007 This isn't as widely accepted as you think. I don't know where you live, but flashing headlights is not the same everywhere. It's like a visual equivalent of the word 'hey!' - I know someone wants my attention, but why? In many countries it's seen as a request/intention to overtake, for example. Nowhere I've lived is it common to flash pedestrians to mean 'go ahead and cross'. If I was waiting to cross and I see a car flash, I would wonder 'do they want me to cross, or are they warning me that they're coming so I shouldn't cross? Or are they flashing at someone else?'

    • @yay-cat
      @yay-cat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I’m on team “the cars are ok but we need different city design”. Like make all pedestrian and bicycle crossings raised like a speed bump and always give the vulnerable commuters (not in metal shell) right of way. So as a car you drive along and then you have to stop at all crossings and drive up and over them. I think this is how the Dutch do it.
      Obviously you have highways or freeways away from pedestrians where cars can cruise but town and city centres would be better with less vehicles

  • @Petriefied0246
    @Petriefied0246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I completely relate to the car culture thing, I am 44 and have a French hothatch and a BMW coupé. However, for long journeys or a commute, I don't care and just want to get there in a comfortable manner. I actually can't wait for self driving cars so that i don't need to do the boring driving and can enjoy my sporty cars as a recreation.
    The comparison to a horse drawn carriage is interesting too because the advent of the motor car allowed horses to become a recreational animal or rideable pet instead of a beast of burden. Something similar will happen to the motorcar in the near future, I believe.

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I appreciate your perspective, Ian. I agree that driving will probably become more of a novelty for hobbyists.

    • @Petriefied0246
      @Petriefied0246 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Design.Theory there will be a need for driving skills in the military and plant operations such as tipper trucks.

  • @kaitlint3987
    @kaitlint3987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Definitely interesting,when you were explaining what came mind for me were the look of gaming PCs and the hobby of near constant upgrading of individual components. Bright flashy looks and in branding with a Xtreme sounding product names like the predator names for cars in the 60s and 70s

  • @Shadow__X
    @Shadow__X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    We should put screens on the sides of the AVs which can display stuff like "go ahead" for street crossings or "waiting for passengers" to let people know what the car is doing

  • @senhuiqiu8253
    @senhuiqiu8253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    the metaphor of "soldier and his car" & "yonger gen. and his digital touch point" is legit.

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks. I have to credit Raffi for that one. He's awesome.

  • @NicholasBaker
    @NicholasBaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    subtle comparison of lidar to carriage lamps was a nice. Would've loved to hear how Tesla's autonomous direction plays into this. Tesla feels like it is focused on both self expression and autonomy, bridging the immediate gap.

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I didn't include Tesla's self-driving tech because you still need to legally be behind the wheel to operate the vehicle. If Tesla is designing a "true" AV I'd absolutely love to see it.

    • @Shorjok
      @Shorjok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tesla seems the antithesis to self expression imo... they are the apple of car manufacturers, making bland, safe designs that appeal to the masses but no individual in particular

  • @bigsisderpina
    @bigsisderpina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You could also make a comparison of buses in general where they also shape like boxes, because it's meant for a utility and service to make people feel comfortable. Especially tour buses, AVs are just smaller buses without drivers.

  • @sameermarwadi6767
    @sameermarwadi6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    the last part was like to the point the old chariot and new cars comparison...superb man 👍😁

  • @JuanManuelTastzian
    @JuanManuelTastzian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolutely loved the development and insight this video gave me. As a car enthusiast, the future makes me sad. I know that the reasons I love cars are mostly not there anymore and in two or three generations, no one will remain to love cars as much as we do. I will probably not be around anymore to live that, so that's ok I guess 💔

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There will always be a place for driving. It just might not be a central focus for most people.

  • @salhyy9962
    @salhyy9962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:23 basically a minibus or a super small train .
    It gets you from point A to point B, nothing more , nothing less

  • @rocky-jp5rp
    @rocky-jp5rp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So basically autonomous cars are huge mobile phones.

  • @theunstoppablesquad2680
    @theunstoppablesquad2680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love how they make a car with eyes instead of just making it blink it's high beams, at least in europe, this is normal practice for letting pedestrians cross and you can do that at a much larger and safer distance longer before you see the driver

  • @Yura135
    @Yura135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lol, the main challenge to be addressed is getting an AV to actually go from A to B without crashing or getting stuck
    humans will accept them, when an Uber costs 20$, while an AV ride costs 2$

  • @simianto9957
    @simianto9957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think those "toaster cars" look like stagecoaches as well. Especially 6:46, with 2 benches mirroring each other.

  • @raffiminasian7160
    @raffiminasian7160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another excellent assessment of the vehicles/products that are going to have lasting social and cultural impact in the coming decades. Cars will always be a part of our movement and behavioral landscape. How we use them will be less and less important, rather the data we deliver while engaged in their use will be far more important. The pleasure of driving will become something of a personal choice, reduced very much like the pleasure of riding a horse, now only for specialized experts trained in secluded facilities. Also great that you captured the look of the new designs as carriages, because back then, ALL carriages were driven by trained drivers and the passengers were not involved at all with the horses or their control.

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for checking it out, Raffi. I appreciated your insights. They were critically important in the making of this video.

  • @wilurbean
    @wilurbean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tell me you're a city dweller without telling me you've never left the city.
    So great content for the west and east cost sort of. As long as you completely ignore the entire #vanlife movement that gen z has fallen head over heels for, millennial finally had some time and money the last two years, so they bought every old 4x4 the could, modified them to their taste, and went to national parks and public space at rates an order of magnitude higher than ever before, RVs are selling faster than ever, new personalized SUVs like the bronco and new toyota large suv coming to replace the land cruiser, etc etc etc.
    Yes for you tiny bubble filled with many like minded urbanites, the toaster car is popular. It's just the everyone is leaving the cities after the last two years.

    • @jalchi8367
      @jalchi8367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      most people live in cities

  • @danielwarner3675
    @danielwarner3675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so happy i've found this vid! working on a sci-fi novel, and you gave me some great pointers on how to think about future vehicles

  • @dr_volberg
    @dr_volberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:35 - Horse carriages with a coachman was the original SAE Level 5 vehicle.

  • @sshlokmishra2967
    @sshlokmishra2967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you soo much for the video, extremely insightful.

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for checking it out Sshlok :)

  • @AgentOrange96
    @AgentOrange96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:34 I was actually thinking this, even how the suspension moves looks very coach like.

  • @youngtevanced8818
    @youngtevanced8818 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great insights, you are right soft aesthetics hides the complications, people will be afraid to ride an agressive looking AV car.

  • @ayfahmy1
    @ayfahmy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this really insightful video about design and the psychology of people which is manifested in mostly all the products we use and it`s relevancy to culture and time :)

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for checking it out, Akram :)

  • @elielperkkio7052
    @elielperkkio7052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh your videos are awesome. So grateful, I found your channel.

  • @James-ep2bx
    @James-ep2bx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The horse draw carage comparison is especially apt if you ask me as they where, to an extent, a self driving vehicle where you have to trust something that could think for itself

  • @atticusnah
    @atticusnah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Good stuff as usual. I completely agree with your assessment of AV vehicles, their forms, and the user expectations associated with them. I also think the "Subscription" model for transportation is going to be big. It would be interesting to see if the effects of "Grand Tourismo" or other high adrenaline video game experience also translates into "Adrenaline" subscriptions. AV transport for the workweek, "Hyper adrenaline experience subscription" for the weekend? I recently switched to leasing for my current EV as it seems that much like my iPhone, the improvements every 2 to 3 years is significant. Thinking of leasing the Tesla Roadster 2.0 as well when it becomes available. (as part of my personal paradigm shift)

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi Alex, I think there will always be a place or the need for speed. There's something in all humans that makes us like to go fast. But I think that will be more of a niche.

    • @DimitarStanev
      @DimitarStanev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think your comparison of EVs to iPhones illustrates well my worry about cars becoming even more so a throwaway thing. Smartphones are on average used 2-3 years and thrown away as a result of planned obsolescence and fast technological progress (or the illusion of it). Having a new 2.5ton EV built for you every 2 years is in no way more sustainable than keeping your old car (albeit less efficient) running. I believe the mindset has to change.

  • @PhilippBlum
    @PhilippBlum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "[...] they need to get humanized" Or we just admit it's a bad idea to build driving killing machines. Instead we could build a proper public transport, which can even get automated more easily.

    • @Martinit0
      @Martinit0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the idea is that those autonomous vehicles will be killing far fewer people than current human-operated designs. And the end game is to make them a service so that would essentially be a public transport, except not funded/subsidized by taxpayers.

    • @PhilippBlum
      @PhilippBlum 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Martinit0 That's not the case though, they are mote dangerous.

  • @martyboi
    @martyboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a superb vid John!

  • @JustIn-sr1xe
    @JustIn-sr1xe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The horse and carriage has evolved so much. The horses are now inside the carriage, and the cabin itself looks more like a coffee shop booth, minus the table.

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was fantastic to spend some time in your mind for 15 min, loved it.
    Since the primary reason you made it was ergonomics, have you considered making the guitar adjustable?

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, i have. I think the next iteration will be more adjustable

  • @roeytsemah
    @roeytsemah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a great breakdown! Cheers!

  • @KayJblue
    @KayJblue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol I love that car throttle video, nice touch

  • @GalinPanchev
    @GalinPanchev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great channel, man!

  • @teddnagurski5583
    @teddnagurski5583 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think your first point about their design needing to disarm people is an example of Raymond Loewy's MAYA principle. If you want to want to sell something revolutionary, make it look familiar.

  • @westcoastwilly6261
    @westcoastwilly6261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your videos, seen a couple now and imma subscribe. I'm not sure I agree about the shift toward focusing inward on AVs though. I think GM's Cruise is actually modelled after the trolleys, trains and carriages; which focuses on people's need to socialize (Which I think is desperately needed in design). I think the forward facing car was just a matter of necessity. I'm sure there will always be a market for forward facing AV's; just not for family cars.

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You may be right. I have a friend who's a designer at Cruise. I could ask him

    • @westcoastwilly6261
      @westcoastwilly6261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh whoa, I've never been responded to before. Feels better than I thought it would. 😅 Lol I would love to hear more about Cruise's design process. These AVs are exciting and all an new field to explore.

  • @TinyBearTim
    @TinyBearTim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do people who make them not know what a crumple zone is

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think so. I'm hopeful that they at least considered safety regulations.

    • @dharmani_youtube
      @dharmani_youtube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In dedicated lanes it might not be an issue but a good point.

  • @bing5043
    @bing5043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you have any recommendations for resources (other than this channel) I can use to learn more about product design theory? This stuff is all fascinating to me and I'd really like to dive into it.

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So it depends on the aspect of it you're interested in. Is it the proportion and form part? Or the research/need finding part? There are many resources for the latter. There are almost no resources for the former. I'm making an online pre recorded course about form, proportion, etc and it should be ready in a couple of months. If you want you can sign up and get notified at studioello.com/course-notify ... The course will cover both research and proportion/form, as well as how they relate to each other

  • @joe_fabricator
    @joe_fabricator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting, thank you.

  • @gpd4110
    @gpd4110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    good for people who are old or need an alternative to public transport without being around many people or who dont want to get a drivers licence. like a personal driver. specially in pandemic. bad for people who look for personal engagement/input in their choice of products. but what happens when you going fast on autopilot and rain , dirt or mud blocks the cams sensors ?

    • @yvrelna
      @yvrelna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      > Rain/dirt/mud blocks the sensors
      The way I see it, most autonomous vehicles are likely going to be shared vehicles like a taxi, operated by a company or maybe local government, rather than being your own personal property. So if the car detected malfunctioning sensors, it would just try to find a safe spot to pause and call maintenance crew to look after it, or ask the passenger to resolve the issue before continuing.
      There should be redundant sensors anyway so that even if a couple sensors are down (or if sensors of a certain type are down), that the vehicle isn't completely blind to the point where it becomes completely unable to function.
      An autonomous car can drive itself, it doesn't really make much sense for autonomous vehicles to just sit in the parking lot 95% of its time, like regular cars.

  • @benjaminconnor6640
    @benjaminconnor6640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If they made it look more like an Old style coach or a limo, people might like these AV's more.

  • @surrealengineering7884
    @surrealengineering7884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll go out on a limb and say these things will do about as well in the market as the nissan cube did xD
    Because people *want* beauty in their lifes. even if they don't own it.
    In my country we have Mercedes e-class , VW touran, Toyota Prius, etc. as taxis
    ...guess which one i'm taking when i have the choice...
    (hint it's the beautiful luxury car for ~ the same price!)

  • @nemojunglist
    @nemojunglist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I worked on the design development of the Local Motors Olli 1.0 and was head of the design development of Olli 2.0 or known as the 3d printed Olli. I tend to agree on your insights on this emerging segment, and I have additional insights to some aspects of the things you mentioned if you would be interested.

  • @kotelypiesely1268
    @kotelypiesely1268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd honestly say that its square-ish because its supposted to haul 17.5 people and their luggage, but it truly has something to do with taking the individuality away, not like it affects me I'll buy an old Audi A4 and drive it 'till there's a hole through the engine

  • @theolienard4257
    @theolienard4257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All ways really Great vids

  • @jayman732819
    @jayman732819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT VIDEO!!

  • @edenaut
    @edenaut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very interesting. Also a question which came up is when somebody had an accident and you drive with a self driving car.. does it stop and tell you to help the one in the accident or will it just drive along?

    • @NatLaS
      @NatLaS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like, if the AV is able to recognize the car accident by itself, it would ping the relevant authorities by itself. Might even call them immediately (upon agreement from the occupants) and let the passengers converse with them, while it waits for a moment at a safe distance? So if it’s just a scratch, you can cancel the call and have the AV go on its way
      That’s how I think it could work? I know emergency line cannot tell you to do anything that might put you in danger so they can avoided being liable, so I assume it would be the same here

    • @stinkymart3173
      @stinkymart3173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt an autonomous system that isn't involved in a scene would instruct to get involved. In any case, full self driving is *not* here yet, and the driver still has an obligation to pay attention to the road and be ready to respond to obstacles or events if the system fails.

  • @NowherewithNate
    @NowherewithNate 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the cruise organ looks like two Prius head butted eachother 😂

  • @benm3625
    @benm3625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @benm3625
      @benm3625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Design.Theory I study engineering psychology / human factors engineering. I feel like my program puts me at a unique intersection of industrial design and user experience. I am wondering how you think this field of study interacts with industrial design and what your thoughts are about how I could position myself in the job market.

  • @pranitpopli9926
    @pranitpopli9926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    was thinking about the carriages just before you said it in the end, kinda freaked me out.

  • @ricard458
    @ricard458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for share your view points :)

  • @gemmazanoguerasubervilles1584
    @gemmazanoguerasubervilles1584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So interesting!!!

  • @OzMediaOfficial
    @OzMediaOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    did we just re-invent buses?

    • @DarkDutch007
      @DarkDutch007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      only if they do the same pre-programmed route, otherwise it is just a taxi without a driver.

  • @xehaytecle932
    @xehaytecle932 ปีที่แล้ว

    What of you use gpt4 in the car programming

  • @martyboi
    @martyboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    John I have a question, do you think is it possible for me to become a Industrial Designer / Design Engineer without going to school, like self taught or something? Thanks !

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it might be possible now. To be honest, I think it would have been impossible as recently as two or three years ago. There are far more learning resources online, though. To be clear, the benefits of school go far beyond what you actually learn, though. You build a network, which is so critically important to finding that first job.

    • @martyboi
      @martyboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Design.Theory John I have this Idea, What if you can create an Online School, Everything That you have learned in University will be shared in that Online program but with flexibility which schools won't allow, and you can also revise the knowledge because you have already experienced what the Industry demands, I don't know if the University you came from updates their Curriculum,
      I will definitely subscribe and join this if you create this Online School with "flexibility" doing something that Universities does not do, because I think I'm not the only one who want this kind of setup where they want to learn and enjoy creating stuff and practicing Industrial Design concepts without the pitfalls of the University System
      Thanks John!

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@martyboi Well I am offering a course about industrial design principles. It could be a good way to learn the principles in a way that is much more structured than traditional design education. I posted a link about it in my most recent vid

  • @rockysage7760
    @rockysage7760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. What's the name of the music track you used?

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it's buy an artist named Diamond Ortiz. Maybe it's called gas pedal? I can't remember.

    • @rockysage7760
      @rockysage7760 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Design.Theory I don't think that's the one.
      I've been binge watching your videos the entire day. I'm new to industrial design and the ideas you discuss on your channel it is really engaging. Amazing work.

  • @atenamauriello307
    @atenamauriello307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video! I totally see the similarity between the AV interiors and the ones of horse-drawn carriages!

  • @ArchOfWinter
    @ArchOfWinter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think the smartphone focus play that big of a role in design. Without the need of drivers, the passengers can focus on each other. That facing design and less visibility creates a social space. It is about making a comfortable experience. Depending on the places and target audience, they can make autocars with larger windows for sight seeing.

    • @Martinit0
      @Martinit0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The reality of today's public transport is that everybody stares at their mobile phone. But maybe it feels less threatening to face each other when you share a vehicle with strangers.

  • @MasterAdamonia
    @MasterAdamonia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    But I want an aggressive looking vehicle with autonomous mode :(

  • @DeltaSquad43
    @DeltaSquad43 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The psychological connection with a vehicle is a big thing. Not for most people though, but still.
    I mean, how can you not feel anything to a machine, when it gives you such a possibility to get to places, that you would not reach without it? I don't mean going to shops etc. I mean, getting out of town, just to get your mind off stuff. How could you not feel connection to a machine, when you maintain it? When you fix it. Now's gonna be a bit freaky part for most people, but still. How could you not feel connection, when there's your blood on parts of the machine? (I don't mean blood sacrifices, for god's sake, I mean, that sometimes when you fix your car, you get scratches, cuts, bruises, scorches.) It is a strong connection, like some king of brotherhood - machine gives you comfort, makes your life this much easier, and you take your part in such a relationship - you keep it alive, running, doing what it's supposed to do.

  • @moonchild5859
    @moonchild5859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're right but, at the end of the day, my car is still me, it's still a reflection of my personality, and I, personally, don't want said reflection to look like a toaster or an overcomplicated brick

  • @EmreCanKorkmaz
    @EmreCanKorkmaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the pop-culture roots of public fear of AVs, the cult 1983 movie 'Christine' should've been mentioned.

  • @corneliuseisenheim3824
    @corneliuseisenheim3824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They look like kitchen appliances because our new robot overlords want us nice and toasty.

  • @yay-cat
    @yay-cat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    also looks like a train cabin (Hogwarts express yo)
    A fast car on the open road is all about exploring the unknown and a thrill of seeing new things. A nice train ride in a foreign country offers the same.
    The average commute through sprawling and poorly maintained areas doesn’t have much of view or anything new outside of the car. At best a commute is a nice time to unwind on the way back from the office. Chew on an idea or sort of relax alone-time wise (or with friends if you ride share). You couldn’t be washing dishes now if you tried. So having a cushy airport lounge feeling space for this time period is ideal. Once again a train could work here.
    Then there’s a trend for cities to become more dense and walkable. Like take your bike to the shop or office because everything is close and pleasant to walk to because city centres are becoming more car free or like less car centric. So then having a little friendly slow moving pod taxi is a great idea for when you and your crowd want to go out at night but its cold and no one really wants to cycle home drunk and fumble with locks and you maybe wanna wear heels. Or its a bigger shopping haul that’s tough to carry or someone struggles with mobility. Well having a bunch of these friendly - pedestrian priority - pods cruising around knowing that they’re not high speed or dangerous to anyone inside or out of the car - well that sounds ideal for cities! Especially if they’re electric and quiet except for maybe a very polite little toot-toot if necessary.
    The fast cars belong on the exciting roads away from suburbs and towns; the trucks belong on the farm/mine or industrial district; and cargo should travel by train because its the most efficient and economical.
    Young people care about the planet and good vibes (like city areas with art and cool public spaces for selfies/tiktok/yoga and some flexible work spaces and public transportation so that they can be citizens of the world because they have to rent anyway)
    So yeah i think there’s designs would do well and even more so if they have a few pods that are designed by artists. like omg i got collected in the mirrorball pod or cloud pod or dark academia pod or banksy pod or whatever.
    City centres that are all about bike lanes, walkable areas, town squares, pop up shops, green spaces, trains & trams, and then a few city utility vehicles or delivery vehicles (mostly limited to night time) and a handful of “uber” pods for occasional use.
    Get rid of ugly parking garages because the pods can just roam

  • @Arjun0905
    @Arjun0905 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We went from room with wheels to big horse riding back to room with wheels lol.

  • @nicholasn.2883
    @nicholasn.2883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do design theory on the New Shepard rocket

  • @eelvis1674
    @eelvis1674 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the use case for a vehicle like that

  • @eclipse9304
    @eclipse9304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be interesting to see these in crash test.

  • @Vysair
    @Vysair 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sports car looks like a jaguar crouching behind a prey

  • @benbell9170
    @benbell9170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't see any "Kitchen Appliances" in the video though!!

  • @GeometryPolska
    @GeometryPolska 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dystopian as fuck

  • @narobii9815
    @narobii9815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG, do any horse drawn carriage companies still exist? those might be good investment options.

  • @Rickestrela
    @Rickestrela 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why can´t i have an autonomous bentley silvercloud hearse ??

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @user-ix6xw8ww6u
    @user-ix6xw8ww6u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was expecting to hear about AVs, but I heard about whole world!

  • @xehaytecle932
    @xehaytecle932 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love cruise bro

  • @FireOfJagz
    @FireOfJagz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:05 is that Alex from Car Trottle?

  • @0ptera
    @0ptera 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Robots and terrifying?
    I for one welcome our mechanical overlords.
    Jokes aside, I'd trust a computer any time over the jackass behind me flashing his headlight.

  • @amb600cd0
    @amb600cd0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i want a regular car that looks like that fisher price car

  • @alessiobenvenuto5159
    @alessiobenvenuto5159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would trust far more a robot driving than my grandpa tbh

  • @michaelcrockis7679
    @michaelcrockis7679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The design also reminds me subway or train cars.

  • @CynexAuto
    @CynexAuto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That avatar thought was new to me. Was it really more important to look rich than to be rich?

  • @spacekii
    @spacekii 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's like we have been made to forget that trams exist

  • @parkerlanglois1097
    @parkerlanglois1097 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can't make eye contact with a driver at night time. In that situation they usually flash their headlights quickly.

  • @woobilicious.
    @woobilicious. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    People buy cars because it enables autonomy, The shift from "looking outward" to looking at your screen for the entire trip worries me quite a bit.
    I live in a country where the #1 thing to do during a vacation/holiday is go for a 300km+ trip in your car, towing a camper van or boat.
    What is also more alarming is that we already have problems with congestion, environmental factors, and we already have solutions to these problems that remove autonomy, Public transport, buses, light rail, and heavy rail, the reason why people don't use them more is because of shitty city planning, not because we didn't have the AI to drive them.
    None of these vehicles look like they're designed to leave a city, in places like Japan where public transport is some of the best in the world, the only reason why a lot of people buy cars is to get the range and autonomy it gives.
    Autonomous vehicles are a poor solution to most problems, and I suspect where corrupt and incompetent cities that lead to the need for these devices, will award local monopolies to these private companies and in 30 years we'll see the exact same issues we see with the likes of the internet in the US, and middle class populous that's completely disconnected from the local community, the rampant homelessness & drug use because they were too busy on their phones being manipulated by their tech-overloads. (*coughcaliforniacough*)

    • @HeortirtheWoodwarden
      @HeortirtheWoodwarden 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this country the US? And how does people's phones manipulate them into being homeless or using drugs?

    • @woobilicious.
      @woobilicious. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HeortirtheWoodwarden no, we just have similar "car centric" city planning and mildly bad public transportation.
      I'm saying that the middle class, the people that can actually afford to rent a taxi or autonomous service, can ignore the inequality & environmental damage around them cause by their vacuous clout chasing on social media, because it's so disconnected from their online lives.

    • @HeortirtheWoodwarden
      @HeortirtheWoodwarden 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@woobilicious. The only other places that I can think of that fit are Canada and Australia. I just think it's weird to blame homelessness and drug use to people being on their phones too much.

    • @DarkDutch007
      @DarkDutch007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Owning a car is a waste of money when you live in a city with good infrastructure and public transportation, the couple of times per year you go on vacation or holiday and do a 300km+ trip that can't be done by public transport is the time to rent a car.

    • @demoniack81
      @demoniack81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarkDutch007 Owning a car saves me walking 2km to go to the grocery store I like and then having to walk all the way back with heavy bags. And no, there are no direct bus lines linking me with it because, surprise surprise, buses aren't point to point methods of transportation. If I wanted to go by bus I'd have to take _three_ different buses which is totally ridiculous and would probably take 45 minutes each way.
      That's like what, an hour saved every 2-3 days already.
      It allows me to buy things in bulk when they're on sale, because I don't have to worry about how the hell I'm going to take home an extra 20kg of canned beans or a giant tub of detergent or whatever. It allows me to get to work comfortable and happy even when the weather is miserable, instead of getting there wet and cold because I had to wait for the bus in the rain. (And at my previous workplace it even saved me over an hour round trip).
      It allows me to not have to worry about when and where I'll be after an outing with friends, because I'll never be left stranded somewhere or have to bum a lift from someone because I lost the last bus. (Something my friends who dOnT nEeD a cAr do all the time, by the way)
      It allows me to wake up on a Sunday morning, check the weather, and decide to go hiking in the mountains on a whim, just the time to get the pack ready and leave. Can I do that by jUsT rEnTiNg oNe? No, I can't, and if I could it would cost me something ridiculous like >50€ so I wouldn't do it and I'd just stay home instead - the fact you don't have a car is the _reason_ you don't take trips, not the other way around.
      It allows me to get dressed, go downstairs and just drive to my mum's place in the countryside when she calls me at 8pm because her main circuit breaker opened and won't reclose and she doesn't know what to do, instead of her having to spend god knows how much on an emergency electrician.
      And it does all of this for less than 2000€ a year.
      If that's a waste of money, I'm glad I'm wasting that money.

  • @sdc303
    @sdc303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Being a car enthusiast, I am scared for the future of cars.

    • @BrapBrapDorito
      @BrapBrapDorito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, going from essentially an avatar to an appliance is not only saddening but worrying too.

  • @JorgeGomez-ne7sc
    @JorgeGomez-ne7sc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh yeah you're right should maybe in the future also do rent a autonomous Victorian carriages for Weddings and quinceaneras or any party that has the theme like that.

  • @sirdeakia
    @sirdeakia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been looking at them for a while now and i just cannot see the blender.

  • @tellhimimeating9141
    @tellhimimeating9141 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just stick an R2 unit sticking out of a car, they emote great \o/

  • @voltgaming2213
    @voltgaming2213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robot in general are scary, absolutely not robots from Japan are so cute and friendly

  • @ceykat669
    @ceykat669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So my dreams of autonomous vw vans are valid :D

  • @anselmschueler
    @anselmschueler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing about US soldiers associating with their cars was interesting, but a bit unconvincing

  • @lokalnyork
    @lokalnyork 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need Johnny Cab from Total Recall.

  • @pepsiman8713
    @pepsiman8713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i miss old cars

  • @Evistopheles
    @Evistopheles ปีที่แล้ว

    I want toaster car. I also want to put googly eyes on it and call it Carbert.

    • @Design.Theory
      @Design.Theory  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I share in your vision

    • @Evistopheles
      @Evistopheles ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Design.Theory I sadly don’t have enough vision for even one person lol but let me get back to you once I have new glasses XD

  • @calebmcintosh3241
    @calebmcintosh3241 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing I’m worried about is what happens when a car t-bones these things.