I have already watched this more times then I can count. This is literally exactly what I have been waiting for. I cannot thank you enough for the effort you put into your all of your videos.
I've had a Flint about about 6 years. Sometimes I'm tempted to try a different one (Monk, most recently). After watching this, I have no problem staying with the Flint Thanks for posting and curing my trem GAS.
I've been using the Subdeacay for a while now and I have to say it's getting more fun every day. Through the Env. Drift controller produce wonderful, lively sounds that are only influenced by the dynamics/intensity of my playing. fantastic. In combination with the slightly changing attack behavior when the intensity control is fully turned up, it becomes really magical! This may not be obvious immediately. However, you will occasionally be surprised with new sounds. For me the perfect tremolo pedal. Big thanks to Mr. Subdecay!
I find I tend to prefer a quality digital tremolo. Because every analog trem is typically built around a boost circuit. Which solves any issues of volume drop but unfortunately means it'll likely boost your signal which you may not want. Some people love that boost there but I have yet to find one that's not overly compressed.
Great lineup and great sounds as usual, I expect nothing less from you!! I own a Flint, and was surprised that I actually do like it best here, somehow to my ear, I find it more " musical "....if you ever do another tremolo shootout, please please try the " Drifter " from Greenhouse Effects, I have one and I love it. Lately I've been really loving my DOD Vibro Thang too...great review!!!
Yes....I should have gotten the Flint instead of the Deco.....just didn't bond with it but I have a Diaz Tremodilla The Vagabond has some cool features too
what I look for in tremolos is transience of notes under the tree- why those old fenders (the bias vary and the harmonic ones that is..) were so great is they worked iin a way that allowed the notes to come through the tremolo. if you have ever played through a slow and deep trem you know what I mean, if you hit a note in the low part of the wave (this doesn't apply to harmonic trems) it gets lost.
I hdd a Flint for 5 years, and they are great pedals, Spring isn't that great but the rest is. Anyway, I have the Monk now and couldn't be happier. There is a lot more depth and variations on the Monks controls not shown here at all. Supro sounds cool, still happy with the Monk and Subedecay had a nice sound to it as well. Surfy was good but kinda vanilla.
So you like the Monk better than the Flint? I got rid of my Flint and got a Keeley Caverns v2 which I love but now I want my Tremolo back so I’m looking at the Monk. I liked the Flint but I don’t run a stereo setup and I didn’t care for the Strymon sound taking over my whole sound. I love the three reverbs on the Caverns and the delay is awesome as well. I think the Monk will be an excellent addition to my setup. Take it easy
The monk has the most options and controls. The eq trim pots inside make all the difference to me. Takes a little time to get to know the controls but I love mine now. I was using the walrus monument v2. Which I still like but as I said, monk has more options for control.
Supro has the best low end throb and richness but the Flint is more versatile. If you have the real estate go with the flint. If not supro for pure vintage tone unbeatable.
Awesome demo....I should have gotten a Flint instead of their Deco I have a Diaz Tremodilla so didn't feel the need Oh well but liking all these even the Vagabond's cool ramp characteristics but certain maxed settings sounded a touch distorted in a way I didn't care for (from a different demo) Very cool Thanks
Listening to TH-cam videos is one thing, but actually hearing a pedal live in your rig is another altogether. The main criteria for me is a pedal that sounds the "least affected" ..... I know that doesn't make sense at first thought, but what I mean is for me it is essential to have a pedal that has the "effect" but does so with the least change or degradation of the original core sound. I bought a Supro, it's great, does phenomenal Trems including harmonic, and has the gain function, BUT .... its just did something to the base tone along the way that I didn't like and ultimately couldn't live with. Just not open and dynamic enough. Same with the Flint for me ..... Awesome pedal, not bashing it at all, but it just alters the core tone in a way ultimately I didn't like. The Jam Pedals are becoming a favorite of mine because they really seem to let the core sound and dynamics thru, but also provide the desired effect. I guess you could say closer to an old Fender amp with bias or harmonic trem. I have a choice 69' original Shin-Ei Univibe that just kills, but I have to tell you the Jam guys are doing something right over there in Greece!
Flint takes it. Thought the JAM might edge it after the first clip but in fact, the flint is as good and a touch quieter and it has great verbs. Supro has too much noise but otherwise fine.
thanx for another great demo btw! what's the difference between harmonic tremolo and vibrato again? And dang...that Harmonious Monk sounds smooth and clean. Any weird EQ or buffer issues with the Jam? I've experienced some issues with their pedals.
Harmonic(tremolo|vibrato) are the same thing. People mislabel it vibrato because Fender did back in the day and it's stuck. The affect is achieved by splitting high/low bands and modulating between them. Magnatone vibrato is different, it's modulating the frequency by phase shifting. It does not split the signal. Most all effects are related, you can get similar sounding results even if an effect is different. There is a clear difference between Magnatone Vibrato and Harmonic Tremolo, but pedal companies now days like to put phasier variants (not simply pitch shifting) in pedals, which blurs the lines a bit. Also add copy sometimes mention harmonic vibrato in same articles talking about Magnatone as they were both available in that era, which I think also blurs the lines. The JAM was darker voiced than the others at unity. Depending on what you like or don't like, that may or may not be preferable.
@@TriPedalReviews ok, I thinkI meant what's the difference between harmonic tremolo and normal vibrato. Interesting about the Magnatone, to throw another wrench in the machine, Origin Effects says the Magma57 is "true pitch`modulating", no mention of phase. It definitely seems different than tremolo but it also never gets close to the full depth you'd find on a tremolo pedal.
@@winstonsmith8236 Their add copy doesn't mention phase, but they have an entire control dedicated to phase. It's the middle switch on the left. Switching that changes the effect from pure vibrato to a more phasey version more akin to the Chorus mode on a Univibe so they say. Confused yet? lol Surfy Vibe also has a switchable toggle from "Vibrato" to "Sweeping" which does about the same thing. CTC Memphis also has something similar with a fully Wet(vibrato) or Dry/Wet toggle.
I bought the Supro pedal after I fell in love with bias tremolo. I also own a Fulltone pedal for standard optical tremolo. That said, in this demo I feel the Supro comes in third behind the Strymon and especially the Jam Pedals (my personal favorite!) when it comes to harmonic tremolo. You can't have everything, now, can you?
the supro is so organic and chewy, have one and it’s special - would never sell. BUT it cuts off a lot of high end and eats the attack of the guitar. feel like you almost need to hit it with a treble booster.
@@phladjki You have any noise problems on yours ? I've had 2 now and have the swirl noise in both. I don't care about super quit as I'm an analog guy for the most part, so a little noise is cool, but its a bit to much. I tried a battery different power supplies etc. This is the only pedal I've ever had noise problems with. I've got some Strymons Catalinbread etc. all solid brands
Shapeshifter V1 was actually my first dedicated trem pedal, I've had it the longest of any of them and it is great. I did have the V2 at one point and I didn't like it as much, got rid of it eventually. Most of the shootouts I do are focused on trems with just a few options (usually focusing on sine wave and harmonic trem), which is probably why I don't think of it since it does a boat load of shapes. Doing a shootout with ones that do shapes would be a huge task haha. I should do a dedicated demo though, it's a great trem.
@@TriPedalReviews Just a quick heads up, but I’ve got the Dazatronyx HT now and it’s absolutely brilliant. It’s it’s own thing, but closer to the chewy nature of the Supro, but without so much of an eq change and none of the clipping. Vibe for days! I’d seriously consider checking one out. The build is gorgeous and the pricing from Aus is a steal.
@@benspinks342 HI plan on picking it up. Was there a wait time on it or was it shipped quickly? I've never dealt with Dazytronyx before, just curious what to expect. I hear they have a killer stereo trem I'd like to check out as well.
@@TriPedalReviews Yeah everything he does is really great, and the stereo trem is first class. The HT shipped in a couple of days and got to the U.K. from Australia in just over a week. It cost £165 ($229 US) shipped, which for a piece of work this well designed and beautifully made is a bargain. If you ever see any of his Facebook live videos it’s evident how much he cares about every build. It’s boutique in the correct sense of the word.
Sir, I was wondering if you have you checked the internal trimpot for EQ on the Harmonious Monk. I wonder if it bring the pedal tone (in normal mode) close to the Mr Black Deluxe Plus type of EQing?
Both are excellent. There is a clear EQ difference between them. Only change I would make on the Supro is a volume adjustment independent of gain. I don't really have a preference between them, I'm happy rocking either.
what’s interesting about supro is the gain does actually add a little volume till about 10:30, then decreases as the gain maxes out. so you have a little control over the volume this way.
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I have already watched this more times then I can count. This is literally exactly what I have been waiting for. I cannot thank you enough for the effort you put into your all of your videos.
I've had a Flint about about 6 years. Sometimes I'm tempted to try a different one (Monk, most recently). After watching this, I have no problem staying with the Flint Thanks for posting and curing my trem GAS.
I've been using the Subdeacay for a while now and I have to say it's getting more fun every day. Through the Env. Drift controller produce wonderful, lively sounds that are only influenced by the dynamics/intensity of my playing. fantastic. In combination with the slightly changing attack behavior when the intensity control is fully turned up, it becomes really magical! This may not be obvious immediately. However, you will occasionally be surprised with new sounds. For me the perfect tremolo pedal. Big thanks to Mr. Subdecay!
Great video. Supro impressed me a lot.
See descriptions for time stamps so you can jump around to what you are interested in. All pedals are in true bypass loops.
I find I tend to prefer a quality digital tremolo. Because every analog trem is typically built around a boost circuit. Which solves any issues of volume drop but unfortunately means it'll likely boost your signal which you may not want. Some people love that boost there but I have yet to find one that's not overly compressed.
I was looking for this exact video - thank you so much!
Great lineup and great sounds as usual, I expect nothing less from you!! I own a Flint, and was surprised that I actually do like it best here, somehow to my ear, I find it more " musical "....if you ever do another tremolo shootout, please please try the " Drifter " from Greenhouse Effects, I have one and I love it. Lately I've been really loving my DOD Vibro Thang too...great review!!!
Set them at various intensities and depths then turn them all on, and be sure to have them all running into the gain stage of the Supro.
That is a grear demo !! Very useful, thanks!
Thanks so much for doing this - great Job!!!
I like the way you play boy.
That Supro though! Dammmm!
Flint by along way . Great low end throb , supro, close
Yes....I should have gotten the Flint instead of the Deco.....just didn't bond with it but I have a Diaz Tremodilla The Vagabond has some cool features too
what I look for in tremolos is transience of notes under the tree- why those old fenders (the bias vary and the harmonic ones that is..) were so great is they worked iin a way that allowed the notes to come through the tremolo. if you have ever played through a slow and deep trem you know what I mean, if you hit a note in the low part of the wave (this doesn't apply to harmonic trems) it gets lost.
I hdd a Flint for 5 years, and they are great pedals, Spring isn't that great but the rest is. Anyway, I have the Monk now and couldn't be happier. There is a lot more depth and variations on the Monks controls not shown here at all. Supro sounds cool, still happy with the Monk and Subedecay had a nice sound to it as well. Surfy was good but kinda vanilla.
So you like the Monk better than the Flint? I got rid of my Flint and got a Keeley Caverns v2 which I love but now I want my Tremolo back so I’m looking at the Monk. I liked the Flint but I don’t run a stereo setup and I didn’t care for the Strymon sound taking over my whole sound. I love the three reverbs on the Caverns and the delay is awesome as well. I think the Monk will be an excellent addition to my setup.
Take it easy
I dig it for sure!
Surfytrem by far. Wow.
The monk has the most options and controls. The eq trim pots inside make all the difference to me. Takes a little time to get to know the controls but I love mine now. I was using the walrus monument v2. Which I still like but as I said, monk has more options for control.
Strymon sounds the best to my ears, but all the rest are very similar.
Supro has the best low end throb and richness but the Flint is more versatile. If you have the real estate go with the flint. If not supro for pure vintage tone unbeatable.
Diamond Tremolo is outstanding!
Yea it is.
Since the Harmonious Monk is, I believe, the only one with dry mix, I think the mix should have been turned all the way up.
Awesome demo....I should have gotten a Flint instead of their Deco I have a Diaz Tremodilla so didn't feel the need Oh well but liking all these even the Vagabond's cool ramp characteristics but certain maxed settings sounded a touch distorted in a way I didn't care for (from a different demo) Very cool Thanks
Listening to TH-cam videos is one thing, but actually hearing a pedal live in your rig is another altogether. The main criteria for me is a pedal that sounds the "least affected" ..... I know that doesn't make sense at first thought, but what I mean is for me it is essential to have a pedal that has the "effect" but does so with the least change or degradation of the original core sound. I bought a Supro, it's great, does phenomenal Trems including harmonic, and has the gain function, BUT .... its just did something to the base tone along the way that I didn't like and ultimately couldn't live with. Just not open and dynamic enough. Same with the Flint for me ..... Awesome pedal, not bashing it at all, but it just alters the core tone in a way ultimately I didn't like. The Jam Pedals are becoming a favorite of mine because they really seem to let the core sound and dynamics thru, but also provide the desired effect. I guess you could say closer to an old Fender amp with bias or harmonic trem. I have a choice 69' original Shin-Ei Univibe that just kills, but I have to tell you the Jam guys are doing something right over there in Greece!
As I suspected, they all sound nearly identical. Just depends on which overpriced painted metal box you prefer.
Definitely some stark differences depending on what you’re listening through. But yeah most will do the job fine. Idk about overpriced though.
Flint takes it. Thought the JAM might edge it after the first clip but in fact, the flint is as good and a touch quieter and it has great verbs.
Supro has too much noise but otherwise fine.
Man, I still can’t decided between the Supro, Jam, or the Strymon!
I want them all! XD
Haha, it's worth it :)
W.O.W. Wonderful video. T.H.A.N.K.S (again!)
For bias trem, surfytrem is by far the best me thinks
Another good upload, thanks! You can only pick one, which one would you use?
I'm a Twin Peaks guy myself. That said, I have a lot of trems for a reason :) They are all good, if I don't like them I get rid of them.
@@TriPedalReviews besides twin peaks… which would you choose? Including fulltone
@@Joshuaalan21 For Harmonic, I'd choose the Source Audio Ultrawave. For Bias I'd choose Basic Audio Throbby. For both, I'd probably go Supro.
thanx for another great demo btw!
what's the difference between harmonic tremolo and vibrato again? And dang...that Harmonious Monk sounds smooth and clean. Any weird EQ or buffer issues with the Jam? I've experienced some issues with their pedals.
Harmonic(tremolo|vibrato) are the same thing. People mislabel it vibrato because Fender did back in the day and it's stuck. The affect is achieved by splitting high/low bands and modulating between them. Magnatone vibrato is different, it's modulating the frequency by phase shifting. It does not split the signal. Most all effects are related, you can get similar sounding results even if an effect is different. There is a clear difference between Magnatone Vibrato and Harmonic Tremolo, but pedal companies now days like to put phasier variants (not simply pitch shifting) in pedals, which blurs the lines a bit. Also add copy sometimes mention harmonic vibrato in same articles talking about Magnatone as they were both available in that era, which I think also blurs the lines.
The JAM was darker voiced than the others at unity. Depending on what you like or don't like, that may or may not be preferable.
@@TriPedalReviews ok, I thinkI meant what's the difference between harmonic tremolo and normal vibrato. Interesting about the Magnatone, to throw another wrench in the machine, Origin Effects says the Magma57 is "true pitch`modulating", no mention of phase. It definitely seems different than tremolo but it also never gets close to the full depth you'd find on a tremolo pedal.
@@winstonsmith8236 Their add copy doesn't mention phase, but they have an entire control dedicated to phase. It's the middle switch on the left. Switching that changes the effect from pure vibrato to a more phasey version more akin to the Chorus mode on a Univibe so they say. Confused yet? lol Surfy Vibe also has a switchable toggle from "Vibrato" to "Sweeping" which does about the same thing. CTC Memphis also has something similar with a fully Wet(vibrato) or Dry/Wet toggle.
I bought the Supro pedal after I fell in love with bias tremolo. I also own a Fulltone pedal for standard optical tremolo. That said, in this demo I feel the Supro comes in third behind the Strymon and especially the Jam Pedals (my personal favorite!) when it comes to harmonic tremolo. You can't have everything, now, can you?
The monk has the best harmonic trem by far. Out of all the pedals I've tried
Supro all the way.
I've had a tremotron, super pulsar, gravitas, nightwire, monument, etc etc...they've been and gone but... Supro every day all the way.
the supro is so organic and chewy, have one and it’s special - would never sell. BUT it cuts off a lot of high end and eats the attack of the guitar. feel like you almost need to hit it with a treble booster.
Love my Supro, all here are nice but I doubt I'll ever look for another tremolo
No pedal is perfect brother, have you tried a eq pedal?
You can really “shape” your sound that way.
@@phladjki You have any noise problems on yours ? I've had 2 now and have the swirl noise in both. I don't care about super quit as I'm an analog guy for the most part, so a little noise is cool, but its a bit to much. I tried a battery different power supplies etc. This is the only pedal I've ever had noise problems with. I've got some Strymons Catalinbread etc. all solid brands
Your vidz rock but just wondering why the Shape Shifter never made your demo's? Seems like a good trem.
Shapeshifter V1 was actually my first dedicated trem pedal, I've had it the longest of any of them and it is great. I did have the V2 at one point and I didn't like it as much, got rid of it eventually. Most of the shootouts I do are focused on trems with just a few options (usually focusing on sine wave and harmonic trem), which is probably why I don't think of it since it does a boat load of shapes. Doing a shootout with ones that do shapes would be a huge task haha. I should do a dedicated demo though, it's a great trem.
@@TriPedalReviews Sounds great. Awesome. Thanks!
Cool vid! Dazatronyx just released an optical harmonic tremolo. There’s another one to try 😬.
OoOo, thanks for the heads up!
@@TriPedalReviews Just a quick heads up, but I’ve got the Dazatronyx HT now and it’s absolutely brilliant. It’s it’s own thing, but closer to the chewy nature of the Supro, but without so much of an eq change and none of the clipping. Vibe for days! I’d seriously consider checking one out. The build is gorgeous and the pricing from Aus is a steal.
@@benspinks342 HI plan on picking it up. Was there a wait time on it or was it shipped quickly? I've never dealt with Dazytronyx before, just curious what to expect. I hear they have a killer stereo trem I'd like to check out as well.
@@TriPedalReviews Yeah everything he does is really great, and the stereo trem is first class. The HT shipped in a couple of days and got to the U.K. from Australia in just over a week. It cost £165 ($229 US) shipped, which for a piece of work this well designed and beautifully made is a bargain. If you ever see any of his Facebook live videos it’s evident how much he cares about every build. It’s boutique in the correct sense of the word.
Sir, I was wondering if you have you checked the internal trimpot for EQ on the Harmonious Monk. I wonder if it bring the pedal tone (in normal mode) close to the Mr Black Deluxe Plus type of EQing?
Jams good though as well .
Move demo
What guitar / amp was used here?
MIM Strat and a Princeton
Your opinion between Supro and Monk?
Both are excellent. There is a clear EQ difference between them. Only change I would make on the Supro is a volume adjustment independent of gain. I don't really have a preference between them, I'm happy rocking either.
@@TriPedalReviews so that volume bump on the Supro wasn't only me then?
@@themodularmodular Nope, it has a slight bump.
what’s interesting about supro is the gain does actually add a little volume till about 10:30, then decreases as the gain maxes out. so you have a little control over the volume this way.
@@themodularmodular Secondary functions on Flint allow setting volume if you want.