Why This Is The Worst Era In DC Comics History
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ธ.ค. 2024
- DC Comics are in the midst of an epic downturn. Sales are collapsing, readers are giving up. Some are saying this is the worst era in DC Comics history. Others believe DC Comics are dying. In recent memory the New 52 and DC Now stand out as especially bad. There are several factors that make the current era of DC Comics standout as even worse. At this point it's hard to deny that DC Comics are dying. Customers are walking away from their heroes. DC Comics are destroying them weekly and there are very few talented creators at DC Comics. All this explains why this is the worst era un DC Comics history.
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They hired writers that can write for books, novels, YA but can't write for comics. They hired people that don't understand the fundamentals of how to write for comics. They hired people who don't understand what heroes or heroism is. They hired people for social points, not based on merit or just plain talent. They hired people to take their characters and turn them into platforms for their social agendas first, over character development and story...Mainstream Comics are dying on the vine and soon to be over without major changes. The companies that own them don't care about comic books, only movies,cartoons and merchandise. The "modern" era of books are just there to hold the IPs so they use the characters in other forms of media. The same people who think all comic movies should be campy, corny, BANG! BOOM! POW! silly comedies, are now in control of the actual comics. They don't care about the medium, they don't want to take comics seriously, they just want to squeeze every last dime out before moving on... And if they can virtue signal by making characters gay or trans or change their race for extra points and back pats on the way out so it looks good on their resumes to the detriment of the characters,who cares! comics are just silly nonsense anyways, who reads any more, they make more money on one superhero movie than all the comics they produce in a year. Corporations have killed comics, they'll never let go of the IPs. Independent Comics are the future, direct to customer crowd funding is the future. Its really gonna be tough for creators in comics and its really going to be telling on what really sells based on what the audience wants and likes.
This is the worst era in comic book history for mainstream comics, not just DC Comics.
agree
Agreed
Marvel is ass .... What the ...who asked for dark web? The dumbest Spiderman story ever
I've read DC my whole life. Never thought I'd see the day where I've virtually given up reading DC Comics completly Theae are sad, sad times for comic fans
@@mcbri7608 Yeah, always read the Bat & Superman books, Flash, JLA.... Now, aside from The Swamp Thing and Action Comics, I've dropped all my regular DC titles
Seek greener pastures, my man. Read European comics, Manga, INDIE AMERICAN COMICS(there's a lot of good stuff out there). The DC characters will always be timeless; remember them when they were great and let it be like that.
@@StratumPress Yeah, I read some European and American Indie stuff. I tried Manga but no really a fan of it tbh. I'm very old school when it comes to comics. I've been re reading old classic stories mostly for a long while now. Modern DC & Marvel don't really interest me much anymore. As a lifelong fan I'm very sad to see how modern creators are trashing all the characters I've loved since I was a kid
@@paulbowler5345 I've been reading DC/Marvel since the 80s. I mocked Manga for over a decade. I decided to pick it up and am now deeply ensconced in it. Great art, great stories, great value.
It makes me sad man. There is such great potential in DCU but :(
The Trash Era. Definitely is the worst period I have ever seen in DC comics, and I have been reading since the late 80s.
The corporation is at a low point, focusing on agenda-based politics and 'diversity' hires, at the cost of hiring the most talented and capable people. Its all a tumblr fanfic trash fire at this point.
It’s not just DC, Marvel’s been pretty bad too.
What do you mean they do bad, look at this 0:37 (this is what the video talk about right? Comic sales rank? DC doing really bad) 😭😭😭
Look at those Marvel's name.... :")
Yep. X-men suck right now
Marvel has many popular characters; DC only has Batman that they haven't ruined.
Yeah but apparently Marvel is outselling DC right now.
@@Yukooo333 Those numbers mean nothing in the grand scheme. Anime is outselling DC and Marvel by far. Also, why be so dramatic?
Probably because the only gimmick "story" DC has now is someone comes out as Gay every month.
Even the constant events from the Aluminum Age were better. At least we got good art out of those.
Its simple. They only hire writers who can only write about themselves. And nothing bigger or greater then themselves and remove themselves from the work
Perfectly said! They write about themselves. Exploiting famous characters to get attention.
There was a lot of stuff I liked in the new 52 but I was new to DC. I also really dug a lot of things from the post crisis era, but I was reading retro actively so it was a bit weird... like being an anthropologist. The current run is like "DC NOW!" It's all over the place, full of virtue signaling, and just whack from cover to cover.
Same bro same
Same situation for me since come out of The Batman theater I changed from not care for comics to addicting. But just found out that newer comic I some day get to will be sucks is hurts
Love your take on this. I started reading comics in '78, and collecting them in '83. Once I started collecting, I started retro reading stories to see how we got here.
It’s the clearance era for Post Didio stories. Things will not improve until Future State (including the writers) is discarded and there’s a return to bread and butter storytelling.
I think EVS said something similar. The current garbage that's in the pipeline needs to be cleared out. Maybe the merger with Discovery will speed that along but I have my doubts.
I just wish we still had post crisis and post crisis writers. That was the perfect DC continuity in my opinion.
I agree
only for the trinity, many characters were done so dirty during that time.
I agree, I loved that there were actual consequences and characters that died stayed dead for years. The legacy characters were built up and fleshed out, not forced and rushed.
I agree-ish (I wish we could go back to pre-Crisis) I was 15 when Crisis ended.
I have some hope because of the writing teams on or soon to be on Batman, Detective, World’s Finest, Robin and Action Comics. I hope they turn it around like O’Neal and Adams, Englehart and Rogers did for DC in the 70’s.
Yes. Other characters need love too. The Justice League and Wonder Woman deserve better.
I agree about Wonder Woman. They need to put a strong writer and art team on her book again. I enjoyed Greg Rucka's take on WW, both Rebirth and his earlier run. I'm just catching up on G Willow Wilson's run as well. DC also needs to do more with the whole WW universe as well, especially Donna Troy, Cassie Sandsmark and Artemis.
Superman is super easy to fix: blame all the woke on Mr Mxyzptlk and move on. LOL. (Actually, Marvel can do the same by blaming the woke on Impossible Man). 😉👍
They don’t have a writer or artist storytelling team worthy to hold the jocks of the teams you mentioned.
@@elcarajo66 I wrote a fanfic back when I stopped buying comics about how Dr. Strange gets the Sorcerer Supreme back and sees that something is deeply wrong with the universe, where all it's greatest heroes are being disgraced, humiliated, tormented, and replaced. He determines that Loki essentially won, he managed to get his hands on the Infinity Gauntlet and then use his magic and the cube's power to erase all knowledge of it and subtly manipulate everything to punish his enemies and the universe at large. When confronted he mocks Strange, saying "Of course I won! Couldn't you tell?! My brother is unworthy, and his girlfriend is wielding his hammer! Captain America is Hydra, Iron Man was killed by Warbird and replaced by an even smarter teenager who uses his ghost the way he used his AI butler! What follows is a desperate battle to turn back time and set things right, with Spider-Man, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Thor, Reed Richards, Cyclops, the real Captain America freed from prison, and the aforementioned Dr. Strange desperately battling all of woke Marvel to turn back time and set things right.
I think this is "I'm about to stop reading your comics" era.
I happily advise you to skip today's comics and read yesterday's comics ('70's - '90's for me) in trade paperback form. Lots of genres to choose from, plus some great writers and artists too. 👍
@@elcarajo66 to me dc went downhill pretty much after the new 52
DC’s last glory days were that period leading up to “New 52”. The end of the Post-Crisis days. It’s been a steady March to the grave from Flashpoint onward.
Agreed. They dug their own grave when they rebooted in 2011, and it should have been "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" and something that should have never been done.
And DC were in bad shape in the end of post Crisis period.But of N52 in foward the things just worse more and more.
I like that you guys remained absolutely hopeful. I would like to be, too. DC is home to some of my most beloved superheroes and I've had some of the most fun reading experiences of my life with DC books. I would LOVE to see a resurgence of the "Six Pillars" with some love and care put into their content - maybe even add a Seventh Pillar with a lot of untapped potential like Captain Marvel. There's really nowhere to go but up like you guys said - I just hope DC sees the writing on the wall here.
comics business has been deteriorating into nothing since the good old days of the golden age.
At least long time readers like me have many back issues to re-read. I'm reading a few every night before bed and sorting what to keep/sell/donate. If you don't really remember the story, it's kind of like reading new books for free.
I'm currently getting and rereading the comics I had and later lost from the '70's - '90's, in trade paperback form. So for me this has been a fun, nostalgic period. No woke! 👍
Greatest comics of all time cost less than 50 cents an issue.
I like to call it "The Mercury Age"; it is toxic and melts at room tempurature. Fits with the others:
Golden Age (The original classics)
Silver Age (Silly and spontaneous)
Bronze Age (More open to social issues, more bronze coloring)
Iron Age (Dark, edgy, and deconstructive)
Aluminum Age (everything was recycled from before)
I think The Aluminum Age I had some good shiny points of it, but like you said, it's been getting rusty and etched as fast as they can get it
N52 still is the worst DC era of all times in my opinion.Was DC version Marvel where even Superman and Shazam were huge jerkasses.Make me give up of DCU forever.But this actual era is very awful too.
It's Ironic for the character of Superman that despite being the character who has historically represented hope and optimism for the world, there no hope or optimism for him or his brand of DC comics to ever be relevant ever again.
Superman does not deserves that. He is a Hero. He is a Legend. Warner has it forgotten. 😒
Unless something like World War II happens.
I've been buying two comics a week since the mid seventies (the 90's were great- if you were a Dark Horse fan...), and since around (as your guest pointed out!) 2015, that's dropped to around one or maybe two a month- at best.
There's NEVER been a prolonged period of utter garbage like the shitfest we're seeing now.
At least not in my lifetime.
It's disheartening, and heads need to roll...
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The 90s were great if you were a Marvel fan also. The internet decided the 90s sucked for some reason but actual comic fans know better. New Warriors, David's Hulk and Spidey 2099, Thunderbolts, all great books. And that's just off the top of my head. It's tiresome hearing how bad the 90s were for comics because it had just as much bad books as any other era. And trust me, the 90s is pure gold compared to what we are getting now. You're 100% correct that this is the worst era ever.
100% agree
In a world where criticism is violence, you have a lot of mediocre talent, with no motivation to get better.
It's the alphabet era where most of the characters are apart of the alphabet community.
Everytime I think it's the worst era it gets worse lol especially in terms of Harley.
Agreed.
it's the worst era for comics period.
They can’t be that bad of your reading them
Just looking at that top 50 list. None of those books actually deserve to be there.
@@killmonger5097 who sez i am lol? im only reading whatever wes and comic tropes recommend.
@@garou12 so your just going off other peoples opinions instead of your own just checking
@@killmonger5097 No reason to start problems. People like what they like.
The bar is set so low at DC that this is how they look for writers now:"Hmm this person posts a lot on twitter, that qualifies them as a writer. And they say all the right things! Let's give them 3 mini-series and an ongoing title to start".
As a casual, I have zero confidence I can pick up any book and know it is going to have any character I recognize. Nobody ever talks about just how much the pure chaos and churn of all this noise creates an additional barrier to entry.
Something I didn't understand when I was a kid, and really until the Image founders left and I started reading the articles about why they didn't go to DC, is that DC doesn't pay. Like the whole bit about cheap writers but decent artists is a testament to that, because many collectors will collect for art rather than writing. DC doesn't spend money on comics - the parent company (I don't even know if it's Warner anymore) spends money on making movies / TV shows.
That said, having only one comics credit (and non-superhero at that), I'm cheap! I'd love to write for DC! Hire me!
No worst era was the new 52 apart from this new frontier era they are pushing a lot of these woke new characters down our throat all at once I'm now down to batman nightwing flash worlds finest and detective I'm so glad Williamson and Tom Taylor are still around I also hated the death metal era that was before this now I thought that was poor
This week for dc is a good one. Two great books came out, issue 2 of World Finest, and a book I never hear TC talk about Blue and Gold. This is the final issue of the initial run of this book and it was great!
I have the first two issues and loved it. But my comic store just stopped selling it
@@Mike-jy4bu damn weak it’s such a good book.
I've loved Blue and Gold!
Read the first issue of B & G and the social media cutesy stuff turned me off, but maybe I need to give it a second look
@@benevolentremnant2949 yea I can see that. They definitely turned it down on the second issue
I still buy merchandise like figures/statues of DC characters because I love the classic characters and the universe. However, I stopped buying the comics in the early 2000s and there's absolutely no reason to start up now.
Now, I exclusively buy indie American comics, Euro stuff, Mangas and Manwhas.
Why early 2000’s, you missed Green Lantern
@@Bolbi145 I'm interested in stories, not runs of stories. A good run of a character from two decades ago isn't enough to get me back into a hobby. Although I could be encouraged to buy a good trade paperback. I bought my son the Blackest Night trade.
@@StratumPress I see, like how some people prefer serialized shows rather than status quoey comedies
@@Bolbi145 I'm not going to buy a comic for 30 years straight because it has a name I recognize, for instance. I like stories. I like characters. But stories eventually have an end. If they don't, they're stringing me along and I'm not going to be strung along.
For instance, I really got into Superman with John Byrne's Man of Steel series and then moved into Superman #1. I read Superman through all of that until the Death and Return of Superman in the early 90s... and then I stopped reading. That's a great summation of the character. Byrne's Man of Steel until the Death and Return of Superman.
Then I read Kingdom Come as a nice epilogue. For me, that's a great cap to the DC universe.
I waited for DC Comics to great new characters with new stories and they really didn't. They've exploited the exact same characters going through the motions for decades.
I'm mostly reading Mangas now because they're just stories that go on until they end and then you move onto another title.
@@StratumPress something tells me that you aren’t a fan of American Dad
People always say how bad it is at DC in terms of sales and quality but if you factor in quality in marvel their situation is just as bad
Partly agree. While Marvel has no shortage of character assassination, DC seems to follow the leader after seeing the failure. It makes it worse.
When i said quality i didn't mean just the woke stuff but storytelling wise. both companies are at their lowest right now, only marvel titles really worth reading right now are maestro and daredevil. avengers, ff, xmen, hulk, spiderman ect. Are mediocre at best so to me marvel are just as bad
DC needs to stop ramming change/events/characters where none is needed or wanted. A new Superman? Did fandom all of a sudden decide they were tired of Clark Kent as the Man of Steel? NO!
I always wondered what happened to Batman marying Catwoman and having a daughter. It seemed to be canon, but then in the Chip Zdarsky it seems to be gone?
The worst era of DC comics had to be during the new 52 which ruined everything and destroyed a lot of characters for garbage and edgy especially with dan didio ruining everything for getting rid of legacy characters for garbage.
it was veey diverse however offering 52 different lines of comics
also it was the best time for dc economically
@@overlord6993 economically for the first year yes it was successful but later down the line yeah it didn't last long at all if anything it did more damage then good the longer the new 52 kept going and sadly when it died which thank god it did it took basically like Rebirth to save dc comics from themselves at least in my opinion.
This was truly the beginning of the end. The fan in me wishes they could bounce back from the grave they've dug themselves in 10 years ago.
The new 52 has some gems but for the most part it was terrable,especially after the first 2 years
@@troxx2393 true it did has some good gems in it but after the first two years it went went to hell real quick.
The problem is the merger evidently the general attitude is that people just don't care at dc so they are just kind of doing whatever
New 52 is Pulitzer worthy compared to what DC is dumping out now.
Batman especially
"Harley" on that infinite frontier cover makes me want to vomit. She makes no sense being there!
Same. She looks like Sailor Moon😂
@@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan she does lmao like a bad cosplay mash up
Jim Lee did say she was the fourth pillar of DC after all! 😂
@@Firebrand511 that was such a cringe moment lol
@@Firebrand511 good God😑😂they've turned him delusional too
Man I got into comics this past year. I started with Marvel and found a lot of variety and different tones of comics (and different quality too). I discovered Daredevil, venom, Hulk, Thor. I then came to DC and found a sad line of 18 ongoing comic series, 12 of which revolved around batman and his buddies. I mean, I love batman! but I was really expecting something else aside from him.
I recently started playing LEGO DC Super-Villains and was shocked at how much of a breath of fresh air it is story wise.
I have the perfect solution for everything! DC can do a company wide crossover starring Superman where he discovers Mr. Mxyzptlk is behind all the woke, the Justice League beats him, and the DCU moves on. Marvel can do likewise by having The Fantastic Four lead the Avengers against the equally guilty Impossible Man. 'Nuff Said! 😉👍
they were at there best pre flashpoint everything has been downhill since if your a manga fan you're eating really good right now
Bring Alan Moore to write Wonder Woman and Frank Miller to write Green lantern. The masters!
there will be no rebound for 'murican comics.
Manga is where all of the young/cool kids are at.
at 48, i've jumped ship and only read Manga.
i didn't leave DC/Marvel, they left me.
Marvin, Wendy and Squirrel Girl love their manga. Closer to REAL LIFE.
It’s the Dark Age.
I stopped spending money on ALL THIS BS a LONG TIME AGO. It's NOTHING but a Cash Grab while throwing their SUPPORTERS to Shit. They've gone 100 corporate. Big Bang Theory Geek Culture that's "Geek" in name only. Quarky DOESN'T mean Geek. It means WEIRD. And they've been chasing WEIRDOS who don't even READ comics.
I loved New 52, swamp thing, animal man, aquaman, justice league, batman, the flash, they had a lot of good shit
I'm a little late to this video, this is the first time in my life I can remember that I am not buying/reading any current books from DC (I started in 1988). This is by far the worst era of DC in my reading/collecting life. It's really sad it's come to this. I'm back issues only now.
I'm a big N52 fan. It's what got me back into DC. The thrash and prices at DC atm are the problem.
N52 was trash.Supermna,WW and Shazam becomes jerks.
what is the best for beggining batman ?
90's were great!
It’s almost like people don’t read comics to be lectured on gender, race, pollution, and 21st century culture issues
The one thing DC has coming up comics wise that I'm excited for is continuation of the white knight universe and Paul Dano's Riddler Year One. The white knight stuff has been consistently good, and Paul Dano is a great actor and director who had enthusiasm for his role as the riddler so I can see his foray into comics also being good. I just wish comics in general were cheaper.
Lot of high tier people tried going into comics thinking it's easy and they find out its a different medium. I hope Paul Dano does a good job but at the same time if he does it will make dc think to give more unproven ppl comics. Also yeah they are getting expensive
To me its another "Dark Age" for both DC and Marvel. There isn't anybody competent in charge. They have employees bashing customers, something that isn't allowed in any other industry. And to top it off, they keep hiring people with no talent, or even a hint of talent, for this kind of work simply to fill a quota. Until they get a person in charge, who actually has a love for every aspect of comics and its characters, things are only going to get worse.
Because it's the worst talent DC has ever had. There are plenty of established creators out there whom they won't give work. Today sucks, and it's by design.
I have to say something: I agree with a lot of what was said here but I believe there is something else that is key and missing from here: Nowadays, there is just sickening, twisted, absurd and vomiting obsession with sex, "inclusion" and gender agenda. THAT is what has become a priority over actually creating a good story structure, a character arc, a heroic journey the character must face in order to develop and a COHESIVE heading regarding a particular series. I have seen multiple iconic characters that are being either phased out to be replaced by new characters (that do not stick) or, worse, changing the characters completely to fit a new agenda. Examples: This new Jackson character is being tried to replace Arthur Curry as Aquaman (failed), this sort of disco character to replace Green Lantern (failed), Robin is now gay, the original Green Lantern Alan Scott or whatever is gay, Thor being replaced by Jane Foster... Not to mention the beyond horrible I am not Starfire storyline or that first Powerpuff Girls draft in which one of them had a sex marathon or something... You can see what happened in the Arrowverse, it has all completely collapsed!! The only surviving show is Flash and it is on its last leg since the show has become unwatchable since S4... It is time that they understand that all this crap they are doing DOES NOT SELL!!!
Both Marvel and DC need to fire the wacko political activists and hire people who actually know how to tell a story.
DC died after Rebirth.
Hopefully, we'll soon go into the Restoration Age of Marvel, DC comics and comic books etc. in general, as well as in all Film, TV & Toys/games, basically all of the entertainment media needs a grand worldwide restoration period...
This is the worst era for DC Comics. I call this the garbage era because that’s pretty much all that DC publishes nowadays. DC has pretty much reached rock bottom and this all started with Brian Michael Bendis. It’s because of him and other talentless writers that have completely destroyed the DC Universe. DC needs to be completely cleaned out of the talentless writers and completely rebuilt with good quality writers. Until that happens, DC is dead.
I am from the philippines and I personally saw the slow disappearance of the comics industry in the philippines from its peak. I remember a times past when there were so many comic books in the philippines, when I was a kid.
I keep telling people, DC is not allowed to outshine Marvel Comics. The people that run DC gets paid to keep DC out of the way.
hahahahahaha what???
omg, dc fans are so delusional, always finding new excuses
@@guidoalvarez4740 I mean most of DC current problems are caused of people that came from marvel. So one could say Disney payed them to destroy dc
@@themaker2149 All I know, is that I find it strange that Hollywood is having such a hard time adapting DC characters the way they are supposed to be represented and then at the same time have no problems adapting Marvel movies.
If Hollywood wanted both DC and Marvel to benefit them they would have been send DC help to fix their movies so both companies could be at the top.
At this point, it's obvious Hollywood only wants Marvel movies at the top.
When the most positive thing you can say about someone's efforts is "they can only go up from here". That is a total failure.
I mean they screw there characters over like Damian Wayne from murderer to taking up his fathers code to let’s kill again because Alfred died
There was a lot of incredible story arcs that came out of DC's New 52.
Most of the creators from the 90s have dropped out cause your not going to somebody in their twenties with no experience trying to tell them how to their job. Now we have these writers that are devoid of talent and life experience bringing their dumbass view on life to iconic characters.
Like I said those books are not for you 2. It's for people who like gay cartoons.
What about the Phillip Kennedy Johnson action comics run its been great I've been really enjoying it
I've been trying to find sales figures on a per-month/ per year basis for DC and Marvel comics specifically. Does anyone know where I should be looking?
The answer is yes. Marvel and DC have set a record new low. It is so bad that I can see them both collapsing as publishing houses. There is no way it can survive on movies games and animation alone. Creatively speaking none of those industries are capable of producing their own storylines and its been many years since that well of content was added to, it's all dried up.
I started reading comics about 1963 and there is no doubt that comics of the last seven or eight years are the worst ever. They are a complete dumpster fire.
My first reaction was "what about early-to-mid 80's for DC?" but I wasn't around then
I agree. I am enjoying Dark Crisis. Other than that too many hat titles. Reminds me of the 9s when marvel had tons of X-men titles.
I started reading comics in 1979 as a 9 year old. To me, as a Marvel reader in the 80's (except for my love of the JSA) my personal golden age is Marvel's Jim Shooter era until he was ousted from Marvel in 1987. Sure he made some bad mistakes during his reign : The New Universe and that creepy Carol Danver's pregnancy thing in The Avengers, but so many books I cherish to this day are Marvel books from 1979 to 1987. Sure Shooter could be difficult to work for, but there was a lot of quality on those convenience store spinner racks and newsstand shelves. And I finally took DC seriously the first few years after Crisis On Infinite Earths. Wally West as The Flash was far more interesting to me than white bread Barry Allen. And John Byrne's Superman wasn't making me feel like I was 5 years old. But could somebody explain how the classic versions of Hawkman and Hawkwoman could team up with Superman, The Atom, and The J.L.I. and then disappear? All of a sudden Hawkworld shows up and bye bye classic Hawkman. DC started confusing me at that point.
I've been collecting since the new 52 started, but even I'm ready to hang it up and move on to my next big thing.
I mean DC has been down for everyone besides Batman for at least a decade at this point.
I love it when people say it can’t get worse. Because there is always a hold my beer moment right after that!
I'm so down with Chip and Ram V on the Batman books. I'm hoping that PKJ stays on Action Comics as I'd love to see where he takes Big Blue over a long run. That other Superman book can just end and never be heard from again. We need Tom Taylor off of Superman and Nightwing, those titles deserve better.
Idk about anyone else but this whole changing established heterosexual characters sexuality to pander to a specific community is bonkers especially when DC have great lgbqt characters that they own! like apollo midnighter batwoman and so on instead of Tim coming out when he obviously had relations with Stephanie brown if I remember correctly how about use midnighter or give midnighter a sidekick. instead of turning John Kent give apollo a protégé and so on! why alter established heroes who have had relationships when you have great characters NOT BEING USED! Like seriously use stormwatch make them younger if you like and have them be in future state to save the older justice league or here is a thought create new hero backstories using existing heroes you do not use! Smh I don't mind change when change is not forced and is used correctly not for publicity stunts!
New 52 was the golden era compared to what we're getting now. Aside from a small handful of titles i'm leaving the new stuff alone and gonna spend some time grabbing back issues of stuff I missed from the Rebirth era.
Their graphic novel/trade sales being down isn’t surprising. The new stuff is terrible and nobody wants to read it in trade form. On top of that, the pricing is insane. Just for example, they recently released Deluxe Edition hardcovers for The Long Halloween, Dark Victory, and Catwoman: When in Rome. The cover price on When in Rome, which is half the size of TLH and DV is the same at 50.00. That’s insane. The prices on Marvel trades has always been higher than DC but DC has now caught up. For something Marvel charges 35-40 for, DC used to charge 25-30, sometimes 20. Now they’re just as much if not more.
Hell no...the early years of the New 52 were far worse for DC than now.
It’s the dead wood era
So-called pros “NFTs bad they use energy and going blow up the world.
Me “what about the trees chopped down to make your crap?”
So-called pros… tumbleweeds pass by.
“REEEEEEEEEE”
Just talk about South Africa to a very far right wing person and it's the same. That's at least an entire nation, not just some brand of entertainment.
Hi Josh!
The Quesada and Didio eras might as well be masterpieces to what we've gotten in the last 10 years
There's plenty of good writers. That's not the problem. The problem is they kicked many of the good writers out during comicsgate in favor of woke pandering that no one buys, and the other good writers that stuck around are now leashed and forced to play that social justice game.
Any comics company that gives Vita Ayala control of one if its titles has something severely wrong with its leadership.
Can you rank every dc title right now? I would like to know which titles are worth the time & money
90s DC was great in my opinion. There are so many great runs in that period. Some books were bloated like 4 superman titles. But they were at least quality.
We want the 90s back
I'd take early 00's at this point 😆 😥
@@VicRattleHead28 I thought people liked the early 2000’s
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I miss the 90's.Even with all anti-heroes invasion of Image Era is still very better that the pure garbage that comics become after the 2000's.
@@EvandroACruz I heard once you got past anti hero stuff it wasn’t half bad
I think the best representative character was a friend of Kyle Rayner, Terry Berg. DC has ignored this character who actually was starting to have an interesting story all his own.
Without Joshua Williamson I might be reading more indies than DC soon--and I don't read a lot of indies (hardly any Marvel either). Right now I'm only reading: One-Star Squadron (great miniseries); Batgirls (dropping soon); World's Finest (so far so good); Catwoman: Lonely City; and the Josh Williamson-verse (Batman, Robin, Deathstroke, Shadow War stuff).
Apart from batgirls and Robin that's all I'm reading too agree about one star squadron plus I'm liking nightwing and the flash but with a few mini series thrown in
I have read DC from 1996 to 2021. I stopped due to financial reasons. However, after Doomsday Clock and Death Metal, I left.
I will say when it comes to the New 52 there are some gems. I mean yes Batman and Green Lantern stand out only because their worlds were not rebooted. But, I will say thanks to the horrible start to New 52 Superman we got Tomasi and Jurgens giving us some of the best Superman I ever read. I also have yet to read Johns' Aquaman run because I hear it is just a ton of fun. What is actually funny is I expected myself not to read any DC after Future State and right now I find myself reading more DC than before. That is because their Mini and Maxi series & Black Labels are very entertaining. Depending on the team behind them of course.
I just disagree, no good comics? No good writers??? Umm… Zdarsky. Williamson, Ram V just to name a few. There are plenty of great books and writers for Dc stuff currently. Nice House on the Lake, Batman The Knight, Dark Knights of Steel, Knightwing, Robin, Action Comics are really solid with their warworld saga, Zdarsky is about to start doing the Batman run, Ram V is about to take over detective comics.
That infinite frontier cover ART is bettter than anything I’ve seen I must say that yu guys are spot on abt the stories from a lifelong comics fan
Reading Flash + Nightwing + some Black Label, all excellent.
Add batman and worlds finest that are my ongoing titles now with some mini series including black label
3 titles can't save a dying publishing company.
I’ve been crushing comic review videos lately and the main criticism everyone has is ‘no new ideas’…… yet there is ZERO mechanism to submit ideas haha only art
And there’s no incentive for current writers to give the big 2 their best ideas, so they hoard them all for their creator-owned titles…. So you just end up with dark versions of all the characters, characters just having kids, or woke stuff… There needs to be a way to submit ideas
Action Comics is probably the best thing they are publishing these days. That book is consistently great. The rest of their books have been a chore to read lately.
There's nowhere to go but up? Eh no they could go straight out of business.
Who’s in a worse position Rn? Dc or marvel?