Proud owner of Slavia MT 1.0, took 5 test rides back and forth between Honda City and Slavia back and forth before deciding. I have a smile on my face each time I revv the engine, overtakingis a breeze. In Delhi city traffic I’m getting 14-15 kmpl with ease and on highway 25 without efforts. Gem of a car, gem of an engine.
Very good mileage numbers for sure 👍 I also was in awe of Virtus but somehow, Slavia has got my fancy now. Must have been hard to choose between the two legends i.e. Slavia and City. Congratulations 👏
I also took a test drive of skoda saliva 1.0 TSI / AT a few days back in Pune in bumper to bumper traffic for 30 minutes and in that time I also saw a mileage of 21 KMPL in MID
Munish Sir. I salute you. I’m a Mechanical Engineer and when I tried to explain this to anyone nobody believed in me. Everybody made fun of us buying a 1.0 TSI Engine. Thank you so much for bursting the myths of people who are buying a NA Engine and ignoring this beast. We have taken our Taigun 1.0 at hills and it felt like we need not do any effort for climbing steep slopes. 😇❤️
How many people Were travelling in ur Taigun In my case we were 5 people in my Taigun 1 litre and travelled to mussorie and I felt some lesser power when I compare it to my polo Having said that I never travelled on hills with 5 people in my polo
We were 4 members. With luggage packed to full. Must be around 8-10 kgs. If I compare it to Vento we were driving 1.6 TDI, we felt a bit short of torque obviously due to the difference in Torque as well as it was a Diesel Engine but Taigun never made us realise it is struggling.
Today realized the true meaning of a quote by my teacher. “Always study the knowledge, never Read”.. reading is what we give to a newspaper, study is when you dive deep into the depth of the topic.. what maximum auto journalists do is the reading of the specs sheet but you guys made it study the real depth.. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Kudos.. feeling proud to be a vw polo owner since 2014..
Thank you! for everything you guys are doing to educate people. Yesterday, I took a test drive Virtus of 1.0 MT, and experienced the same. The good news is I booked it immediately. Now waiting for next week to get it delivered 😊
@@SunderdeepSinghI own kushaq 1.0 MT I feel too much lag in city and slopes please share some tips at what rpm we need to switch gears this will really help many if you make a video of it.
@@TravelAndMachines I live in Bangalore so based on the traffic I get between 8-11. In highway as you know it depends on speed I have got 23 in MID if I maintain 80-90. If I go beyond 100 or 120 I get 15-17
Wow ! What a discussion ! Even I was confused between 1.0 tsi & 1.5 NA engine. Thank you both of you for clarifying the doubts. I was thinking why VW has stopped giving 1.6 engine in Vento n Rapid n why are they giving 1.0 tsi engine? लेकीन आज ये doubts clear हो गये. Thank you so much to both of you ! एक बात कहू! आप दोनो को VW ने brand ambassadors बनाना चाहिए ! फिर किसिकी मजाल नही की कोई और गाडी की तरफ नजर उठा के भी देखे. देखे तो सिर्फ स्कोडा aur VW. Munish ji is not a human being, he is a computer! Kya knowledge, kya study, kya analysis, kyA explaination ! One in millions! Salute to his knowledge 🙏 Could you please throw some light on 3 cylinder engine n 4 cylinder engine? Because it is a selling point for others vs VW n Skoda.
@@SunderdeepSingh Thank you Sir, you always read our comments n reply. That connects us with you n your channel. It Strenghtens the bond 🙏👏👍🏻 Love from Pune.
I recently took polo 1.0 tsi AT to hills.. We wer 4 travelling with our boot full of luggage.. Nowhere did we encounter any lag & to my surprise there was no rollback even on steep climbs or hairpins. Never experienced this kind of engineering in any other brand. Now I know that torque band of 1750 to 4400 was the reason of this performance.. Marvelous explanation buddy!
I own kushaq 1.0 MT I feel too much lag in city and slopes please share some tips at what rpm we need to switch gears this will really help many if you make a video of it.
Great video from Mr.Munish ji & Sunderdeep ji. I fell that this is the most genuine video from Mr.Munish where he also appreciate the Japanese Technology & also criticised their policies for India w.r.t to their global market(Still offering NA engine even in their top models). I also want to add in this is that when someone got paddle shifters with Turbo engines, then one can easily adjust that turbo lag & the turbo engine is always in its boil situation. I believe the reason why people loves Honda is their Comfort, Safety, reliability & fun to drive(with only manual Vtech, not their sluggish CVT) Vtech kicks in bro!😊
Great explanation. All engines have idle at around 850 rpm. Hence 1.5 NA engine will produce more power than Turbo in a standing position. Hence we all witnessed issues in AC functioning on red lights as Turbo spools in 2nd gear.
Low end torque lag in small capacity 3 cylinder engines is a pain in ass, nobody explains this difficulty in slow speed low rpm driving in small capacity turbo engines.
Low end rpm, drivability is better in NA engines. Turbo with 3clynder engines feels dead even on flat foot on accelerator at low end rpm. Engine vibrations are most welcome 😂
Yes sir you are right in Thailand or in other countries 1.0 turbo is given by Honda but the thing is if you wanna to drive Honda City alone then anyday I prefer 1.5 VTEC because the feeling of hitting an 7200 RPM is just something else I'm youngster I love to reving an enjine but for practicality I choose 1.0 turbo because if you touring with your family it give good mid range but in city again 1.5 is better as it has not turbo lag so both are good enough.
Fantastic session!!! The difference between usable torque in NA engines & full utilization of torque over a band of 2700 rpm in turbo engines, is what that brings smile on your face while driving turbo engines. Also, Volkswagen provides you 1) engine activation/deactivation technology in 1.5 TSI, to achieve mileage of 20 KMPL with turbo petrol at speed 80 to 90 kmph, even enthusiasts achieve mileage of 12-15 kmpl on highways (at speed above 100 kmph) 2) Virtus comes with 5 STARS Latin American rating & Taigun with 5 STARS global NCAP 3) Excellent high-speed & cornering stability. So, VW is providing you, fun to drive turbo petrol engine with high fuel efficiency, highest safety, longer car life at pocket friendly purchase price..... Aur kya chahiye ? 😄 People say, there is no perfect car, i say VW Virtus is a perfect car!!!!! I agree with you Sunder Ji, Volkswagen knows how to make a perfect product but they dont know how to sell it!!!!!
Toyota Hyrider ki price search karna zara. Engine specifications bhi padh lena agar padhna aata hoga to. Aur haan jab Koreans aur Japanese copycats India mei 5 stars laana shuru krdein to baat krlena. Creta bhi 19 Lakh tak jaati hai. Uski engine specs padhna. Just because cosmetic features zyada hai to iska mtlb ye ni kuch bhi boli jaao. Aur haan. Average bhi bohot nikal deti hai 1.0 TSI. Nahi yakeen hota bohot saari videos padhi hai 20-25 ki avg aram se deti hai highways mei.
@@fanboi3752 Haan to krlo Toyota ke saath. 4 steps aage rahe hai Germans Toyota se. Sirf ek cheez jo Toyota ko amazing bnaati hai vo hai unka Production System.
I myself own skoda slavia 1.0 manual and its a very good engine no doubts and my relative own honda city 5th gen and i live in Shimla and i can tell you driven both cars over 5000 km the Na 1.5 performs better with 4 passenger with ac and cargo in the trunk small turbo engines are mid range centric which gives it like a diesel like character i i will explain that diffrenlty the drawbacks of a small turbo engine. but what i want to add more is that A Dyno chart is the plot of the horsepower and torque across an X-Y axis. An ideal engine is the one which has the power and torque peaking around the same rpm point closer to the redline, which gives the motor phenomenal top end power. A plot with the torque peaking earlier than the peak horsepower, means its going to be a mid-range oriented package. Poorly tuned engines make peak horsepower earlier, which is a long term catastrophe to the engine. So what is an ideal curve and how it should look? All petrol engines make peak power very close to their redline. A car with a 6500rpm rev-cut makes peak power at 6400rpm. The 5th gen Honda city i-vtec 1.5L makes 121ps@6600rpm with a redline fixed at 7000 and 145nm of torque at 4300 rpm. This translates to a really peppy motor with superb response. The power peak closer to the redline is what makes a stock or tuned petrol engine fun to drive, which also defines the character of the engine. The legendary Honda city i-vtec 1.5 with its DOHC 16V motor is so much fun to drive, due to the relatively high rev cut at 7100rpm and with the power and torque peaking way higher than the other cars in its category. So when any exhaust or intake tuning is being made to a petrol engine, its important to build the right peak power and torque. A badly tuned exhaust or intake tune can result in a drop in the peak power and torque which gives bad engine response, even if you have managed to get some extra power. In turbocharged engines, the turbo sizing and everything else around it determines the peak power and torque point. Below is a pic of a Honda civic i-vtec's dyno report - turbocharged . The green line is horsepower and red is torque. A stock civic makes peak power @ 6600rpm as recorded on the dyno. The car in the example runs a Garrett GT28 ball-bearing turbo with external wastegate and a standalone ecu with drive-by-wire control. With tuned intake and exhaust dimensions and right sized turbo, the car (with a factory stock engine) now makes peak power at its 7500rpm redline which gives superb top-end response and breathes efficiently. The i-VTEC engagement is in sync with the power band climb, making it linear and driveable. On the other hand, the same engine can make high horsepower at a far lower rpm range, with a diminishing power band which is a result of bad volumetric efficiency. A diesel like power band from a petrol engine is not-so-fun to drive although the gain in horsepower is going to make the car faster anyway. Shifting the powerband earlier than stock with a higher redline only results in stress and eventual damage to the engine. The powerband character of the engine is key to long term reliability and its really important to understand where an engine makes peak power, rather than how much peak power it makes! Thats the reason sports cars and sports bike to have high revving engine and makes their power higher in the rev range I hope you take my feedback positiviely. :)
Brother, have you copy pasted this from somewhere because it is written ‘below is the pic of…’. Having said that, I personally found Turbo Engines better after driving N number of NAs and Turbos. NAs redline more and make you feel that you are fast but in Turbo, it does the job at 2500-3000 rpm itself with no drama. Tell me one thing please, why Honda is providing 1.0 Turbo in Thailand & Singapore as a premium line over 1.5 NA? That should seal the answer that what is better in the performance.
@@SunderdeepSingh it's an article from Race concept renown tuning company. But how dose it feel below 1750 rpm and above 3500 rpm dose it performs like a 1.5 i-vetec a 1 liter turbo will show its character of being a 1 liter below 1750 and after 3500 that's the sweet spot where as a na 1.5 has all the rev range from 1k rpm to all the way 7k rpm that flat curve of torque between 1750 to 3500 rpm is good but thats the only power band you have. In Singapore they get the same 1.5 L I-vtech dohc engine even in the rs version . That dosent mean that 1. Liter ivtech is better in performance their are many different reasons a manufacturer is giving different engine in different markets in thiland their is no option of 1.5 even they do not get a manual gearbox dose that mean manual gearbox is not good the city in thiland also miss many features that Indian city have and a drag race between 1 liter skoda slavia or virtus ( manual ) vs City 1.5 manual will actually seal the ans and also why is city complete 1 sec faster than salvia and virtus 1 liter respectively from 0 -100 m.th-cam.com/video/m2qExaEwn0g/w-d-xo.html in this video its much better explained than I can . Anyways love your content . ❤️❤️
Low end torque lag in small capacity 3 cylinder engines is a pain in ass, nobody explains this difficulty in slow speed low rpm driving in small capacity turbo engines.
Absolutely true what an ease of explanation once i went to hills in Wrv vtec2019 with 3 elder and 1 kid while climbing the hill in 3rd gear the car turned off due to low revs my friend was driving and didn't had much experience of hill climbs car got of and then it needed to be turned on again and pulled car in 1st gear and car was revved crazy with loud engine noise with turbo engine hill climb would be ease turbo s are best.👍🏻
Paji I live in Manali and I own a polo TSI 1.0. And let me tell you that I enjoy a lot driving my polo in curvy roads the handlind the power man I can not describe the feeling. (2yrs since I bought polo) and I’m not regretting it no problems nothing everything is going smooth
Sir before watching your video with Munish sir I was also thinking that 1.5 NA is much better than 1.0 turbo but now my myth is broken thank you very much for such an informative video
Amazing video on the difference between NA and Turbo and bursting the myths between the two. What is also special in this video is the way the topic is explained so simply with good examples. That is the beauty of this video
Hello Sunderdeep, keep it ON. One of the best Indian Vehicle videos I have ever seen…right amount of Technical and practical stuff. I am booking 1.0 KUSHAQ/ SLAVIA, after this…had some doubts since last few days..all gone.. Thanks and kudos to you. Tc and keep up the good work.🎉🎉🎉
I recently explored Kashmir in my 1.0tsi rapid with full boot and two passengers on board and believe me it was a true pleasure very smooth incline in 3rd and 2nd gears in bumper to bumper traffic even 1st gear was very smooth on low rpm. It's a true gem❤
Hi Munish ji, Only issue which I faced in my kushaq 1.0 MT in steep hills is that below 1750 rpm , due to turbo lag we may have to gear down to 1st gear where 1.5 NA engines can pick up in 2nd gear. Because in steep hills when speed is very less say 20 kmph, rpm in second gear may be less than 1750 rpm. So in that situation we have to lower to first gear.
@@peaceful_indian2559 You need to know how to drive on hills with turbo engine I drove whole of Uttarakhand with 2nd gear in my slavia 1.0 Mt MO problem Point is to get high torque you have to rev above 1600 to get turbo in effect And lag is knowingly provided so that in traffic it does not accelerate suddenly
You need to know how to drive on hills with turbo engine I drove whole of Uttarakhand with 2nd gear in my slavia 1.0 Mt MO problem Point is to get high torque you have to rev above 1600 to get turbo in effect And lag is knowingly provided so that in traffic it does not accelerate suddenly
When I took the test drive of VW Taigun 1.0 AT and another brand NA engine, I somehow felt Taigun felt much better while driving. I thought it was because of the build quality, metal etc. But never ever thought this crucial aspect of RPM vs Torque chart at 15:30. Thank you. Getting the delivery of Taigun 1.0 AT tomorrow.
Proud Owner of Slavia Style 1.0 AT, 10K on Odo in 5 months. Did many long drives, hills, highway, city etc with 5 people and full boot and it never surprises me with the sheer amount of power. Amazing and well efficient engine.
I drove a Venue T-Gdi with a proper 6-Speed Manual gearbox. The torque output claimed is 172Nm starting at 1750rpm. But actually, in real life conditions, I actually felt that the peak 172Nm torque is commencing after 2500rpm.
That claimed peak torque @1750 probably means peak torque measured at crank, but while driving what we feel is peak torque at wheels so a diff will be there. Same is the case in my polo 1.0
@@kalainaveen Yea, I think there should be more dyno Centres in India to know actual figures at respective rpms. It will determine the engine health as well.
I am also happy user of 1.0 turbo engine with dct, experience is very good coupled with dct transmission. Car always runs stress free and in city highway and hills.
I hope my next car will be from a VW family sooner. Now it has become my dream and inspiration to be more enthusiastic about my work so that I can reach up to this brand.
I really feel good on randomly bumping into this video on TH-cam after taking decision to go for 1.0 MT TGDI Hyundai , I can really have more technical aspects and better argument facts than before and people should also understand that their popular desh ki car TATA nexon and Mahindra 3xo also comes with turbocharger 3 cylinder but they get bothered only with Hyundai 1.0 tgdi or VW 1.0 TSI
@@SunderdeepSingh gdi is safe sound and practical they should put that in their cars quickly since they know they can’t perform like Suzuki with their MPI engines
Small size turbo engines saves fuel only when you drive them sedately and are very sensitive to throttle inputs. The idea of small turbo engines saving fuel is a very dicey concept. When the turbo is on boost, there is forced induction of extra air into the engine and in order to maintain the ideal air/fuel ratio, there is extra fuel injected into the engine which does not do well for fuel efficiency figures. So, even at low rpm's on boost turbo engine will consume extra fuel. PS: Feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong.
@@nikhil9555 there are well documented videos on youtube channels like 'Engineering Explained', where they explain why small turbos aren't really that efficient. People who want to know more can check it out.
Yes 100% true but it also depends on tuning and at what rpm turbo kicks in Slavia/virtus turbo kicks in at 2000 rpm At flat surface upto 2000 is working ok optimal fuel consumption But on hills low gears and high rpm will lead to more consumption of fuel Slavia/virtus 14-19 km city mileage With 55-65 km/hr speed 20-25 km on highway with 87-98 km/hr and rpm at around 2000-2100
@@skulchand2177 not true. Even Alto don't give 18-19 in city which you are claiming. The manual gives 11-13max and the AT gives 7-9kmpl in city (actual city conditions) and not cruising around on empty roads after 10pm. Highway efficiency is good but again, it will never achieve 20+ when calculating tank to tank
Guys, Just to prove his point right Manish ji forgot to consider the behaviour of 1.0 tsi below 1750 rpm. That engine is dead before that. And from 1000 rpm idle to 1750 rpm is the band where you will be while in stop go traffic and steep hills climb at low speed. That's where it fails and that's why we say no replacement of displacement. And by no means turbo charged small engines are fuel efficient, you can not get the turbo rush without burning additional fuel. Before 1750 rpm torque of 1.0 tsi is 35 nm where as any 1.5 NA would not be having less than 90 nm before 1700 rpm. PS: I hate creta seltos. I drive 1.8 tsi laura and 1.8NA civic. So small capacity turbo charged engines are not good for steep climb at low speed is still true
@@SunderdeepSingh you are lucky, you have torque converter masking the dead zone for you. I am only talking about manual 1.0 tsi. I have test driven it couple of times. I am not saying its a bad engine but its not for someone who needs power initially in rev band
No one is buying natural aspirated engine car on hills to drive above 4k of rpm, Its bcz when your car will be in halt position at steep hill than an NA engine will give much better initial torque than any turbo engine. That's why alto is the king of hills, not considering its safety rating though. Else in normal driving conditions Turbo engine rocks at a cost difference of approximately 1lac😁
Appreciate the efforts towards educating people at large. NA engines have got no edge over turbo engines when it comes to performance . But in the case of hybrids, even hybrids also kind of mimic behaviour of turbo engine to some extent. For ex. Toyota Hyryder gives 141 Nm peak torque from 0-3995 rpm thanks to electric motor and beyond 4k rpm engine gets activated for further power boost. Not much of difference from 1.0 Tsi engine’s peak torque of 178 nm. The trade off here is though better fuel efficiency. So for someone eying fuel efficiency hybrids become clear winner here.
"There's no replacement for displacement". This line no longer holds weight in today's time. Technology is replacement for displacement and that's exactly what the modern turbocharged petrol engines are doing.
my answer to ur query is that dont believe the power and torque figures of mpi engines given by vw in reality they generate more power and torque than specsheet
hello sunderdeep ji & manish ji. regarding power and torque, in layman terms power is how fast you can go, and torque determines how fast you will reach that fast. on more thing about 1.0 tsi engines being spontenous is that they are square in nature , i.e, bore diameter and stroke is of same length, due to turbo charging the air is pushed in the combution chamber hence they dont have to worry about the intial torque, while in case of na engines they need longer stroke to and big crank shaft to do the same thing which makes them heavy, and heaft is enemy of peppy engine, it is the same reason the 1.0 is more enjoyable than that of 1.5 tsi. secondarly what turbo charging is doing is that its chopping of one cyclinder. hence less frictional losses and more mechanical efficency . in layman terms if you need 4 men to do certain task , now same task can be done with 3 mens with better end results. also about the life , since its a direct injection engine , the valve stem lubrication isnt a issue . in na the valve stem looses lubricaton because of direct contact with fuel. .
you want to take out more torque and power from small 1l engine which is a 3 cylindr unit compared to 1.5 ivtec obv there will be a difference in reliabilty seen old accords , citys on roads 2001 model low end is way better than 1l tsi i appreciate technology but somewhere video is going towards VW 1.5,1.8 ivtec unit by Honda is stress free and just change engine oil , filter and you are good to go.
Lot of confusion regarding driving DSG. Simple video with pedal and gear shift explaining how to start, stop in signal, rev, manual mode Change will be greatly helpful
Sir ji mazak nahi kar raha yeh video dekhne ke bad lag raha hai ki mai kuch zada hi jaan gaya car ke engine ke bare mai 😅😍... Agar Bachchan mai teachers ne aise hi para diya hota toh aj turbo engine ki video apni terrace mai nahi apni taigun mai baith ke dekh raha hota... 😌 😅😍
You just said the reverse, torque is abilty to do work, power is how quickly you can do the work. torque can be increased with gears but not power, means if a vehicle can not pull a load in certain gear, u just need to downshift to increase the torque but u will decrease the speed.
Ik baat yee b btana chahta hu Toyota ka inline engines are much faster than turbocharger engines from other brands im not a fan of toyota or any other brand except audi and VW are my fav im just telling what i saw and knew
@@SunderdeepSinghI own kushaq 1.0 MT I feel too much lag in city and slopes please share some tips at what rpm we need to switch gears this will really help many if you make a video of it.
1 small limitation for turbo engine... as per my understanding Below 1750rpm.... turbo engine doesn't maneuver in bumper to bumper traffic. This is where NA engines provides linear acceleration from 0rpm. Correct me if I am wrong. Staying in Delhi NCR- below 1500 rpm... we need some torque output to move ahead without playing with clutch and gears.
@@SunderdeepSingh what about 6 speed manual transmission. AT gives you little push or creep function in any automatic car which helps in b2b traffic.... but manual gears shifting especially in VAG group cars is a headache in traffic due to long clutch travel. Only challenge when i drove 1.0 MT and 1.5 i vtec MT ..... city driveablity is better in NA Due to no turbo lag Engine performance... no issues...
I have Taigun MT Topline 1.0 TSI. It cruises great on highway. But compared to NA engines, in hills it certainly feels a lil bit off. In steep slopes it needs to be rev hard as compared to NA engines which are comparatively smoother. Plus I want to know one thing, what is the power of a turbo charged engine without the turbo? I mean in steep hills when its difficult to clock 1800 RPM during the advance of the climb and in tough corners on steep slope. Its there where the NA engine with less power feels smoother than this 1.O TSI turbo charged engine.
But sir is it not true that whenever the turbo is operational in an engine it takes more amount of fuel than NA engine so as to avoid the engine knock due to high pressure in engine cylinder due to turbo..but engine coupled in turbo is only fuel effecient when there is no demand of turbo during low revvs..
Sunderdeep ji mai aapko bata nahi sakta shabdon mei ki munish ji nei mujhe aaj kya seekha diya hai Woh torque and rpm wala graph Mai ab kisi bhi gaadi ka kaccha chittha khol sakta hu Aur counter kar sakta hu 🙏🏼
Awesome details. 99% of the car users does not know about it and hence end up taking wrong decision. I am going for Slavia. Just want to know whether 999cc engine also comes with Active Cylinder Control (ACT) technology. They have mentioned s in their brochure that 1498cc engine has this tech but they have not mentioned about it for 999cc engine.
I agree turbocharger are beneficial for us but sabko ache se dekhna chahiye ki komsa engine kisko chahiye but main thing is in india is pricing ik banda hai dusre shehr job krta. Petrol mehnga pehli baat to turbocharger chahiye usko ki jldi bhaage gaadi or but uski salary kam hai or vo inline engine hi lee paata hai this is main problem of india nothing is in straight line. Petrol mehnga leymann will think the turbocharger engines will drink more fuel and also his salary is not good to buy turbocharger engines
Nobody is correct or wrong to hate small engines. I also don't like small turbo engines, would anyday prefer a diesel of bigger capacity to a small turbo petrol. Vibes from bigger engines are a lot more fun.
Low end torque lag in small capacity 3 cylinder engines is a pain in ass, nobody explains this difficulty in slow speed low rpm driving in small capacity turbo engines.
Some people are going to argue that NA engines are more reliable than turbo engines. Whats the use of reliable engine when its not practical. I will choose better engine over reliable one if its able to satisfy my needs even though it won’t last long. I will maintain it wholeheartedly if its satisfies me well
Surely if you will drive at 85-95 with 1.0 TSI for longer period, Turbo will bring better numbers. In City NA will give 1 or 2 km per litre More average.
Sir ji, nice informative video. All concepts are cleared. Pls explain CC too so that it's importantace will be ruled out. Just for curiousity can we hv 1.0 with 4 cylinders?
Why Vento to 1.2L TSI DSG has low bhp and torque than Virtus 1.0L TSI TC? Ideally 1.2L should have more power numbers than 1.0L when these both are having same technology of turbo.. Please help to understand. Thanks
Turbo engines feels choked in hills & to overcome this problem one needs to keep engine in turbo range & shift geardown in advance sensing steep inclines ,NA have no such issues,we can't maintain vehicle in turbo range on blind curves in hills & once rpm goes down vehicle struggles & you have to start from 1st gear once again
Sir confused with 1.5 tsi virtus vs base Innova crysta.drivingperformance .since amount wise 4 lakh only difference.family of 4.want to keep for atleast 7 years.long drives 1200 trips twice a month.at stretch 300 -400 km
None of the engines are truly underpowered; extensive R&D is conducted before they hit the roads. Driving in hilly areas requires skill, as even Range Rovers can struggle with short turns on hairpin bends. For instance, when climbing hills with a turbo engine, ensure it stays above 2000 RPM and around 2200
Proud owner of Slavia MT 1.0, took 5 test rides back and forth between Honda City and Slavia back and forth before deciding. I have a smile on my face each time I revv the engine, overtakingis a breeze. In Delhi city traffic I’m getting 14-15 kmpl with ease and on highway 25 without efforts. Gem of a car, gem of an engine.
Very good mileage numbers for sure 👍
I also was in awe of Virtus but somehow, Slavia has got my fancy now. Must have been hard to choose between the two legends i.e. Slavia and City. Congratulations 👏
I was in the same dilemma. Finally decided in favour of Slavia 1.0 Style MT
Same here took 1.0 slavia MT and have no regrets
I also took a test drive of skoda saliva 1.0 TSI / AT a few days back in Pune in bumper to bumper traffic for 30 minutes and in that time I also saw a mileage of 21 KMPL in MID
25 my God. Are you sure?
I have taigun 1.0, 1 bought on 1st jan 2023. After first service will the mileage increase?
Munish Sir. I salute you. I’m a Mechanical Engineer and when I tried to explain this to anyone nobody believed in me. Everybody made fun of us buying a 1.0 TSI Engine. Thank you so much for bursting the myths of people who are buying a NA Engine and ignoring this beast. We have taken our Taigun 1.0 at hills and it felt like we need not do any effort for climbing steep slopes. 😇❤️
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How many people
Were travelling in ur Taigun
In my case we were 5 people in my Taigun 1 litre and travelled to mussorie and I felt some lesser power when I compare it to my polo
Having said that I never travelled on hills with 5 people in my polo
@@maroofahmad4660 I feel ki every car will perform a little sluggish with 5 occupants, be it my verna 1.6 or kushaq 1.0
We were 4 members. With luggage packed to full. Must be around 8-10 kgs. If I compare it to Vento we were driving 1.6 TDI, we felt a bit short of torque obviously due to the difference in Torque as well as it was a Diesel Engine but Taigun never made us realise it is struggling.
@@garvitnanda4527gree sir
This was my first experience with 5 people on hills so may be thats why I felt like that
Today realized the true meaning of a quote by my teacher. “Always study the knowledge, never Read”.. reading is what we give to a newspaper, study is when you dive deep into the depth of the topic.. what maximum auto journalists do is the reading of the specs sheet but you guys made it study the real depth.. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Kudos.. feeling proud to be a vw polo owner since 2014..
I think no automobile channel provides this level of knowledge they are jus busy in just explaining features
Thanq sunderdeep sir jii ❤
Thanks
Thank you! for everything you guys are doing to educate people. Yesterday, I took a test drive Virtus of 1.0 MT, and experienced the same. The good news is I booked it immediately. Now waiting for next week to get it delivered 😊
Congratulations 🥳
Such a science well explained. My confusion regarding 1.0 engine cleared .
@@SunderdeepSinghI own kushaq 1.0 MT I feel too much lag in city and slopes please share some tips at what rpm we need to switch gears this will really help many if you make a video of it.
@@nk2506 Could you help telling how much mileage you get in city, heavy traffic and highways?
@@TravelAndMachines I live in Bangalore so based on the traffic I get between 8-11. In highway as you know it depends on speed I have got 23 in MID if I maintain 80-90. If I go beyond 100 or 120 I get 15-17
Sir,
Bohot he acche se samjhaya....
Very informative vedio, every car owner must watch this
Wow ! What a discussion !
Even I was confused between 1.0 tsi & 1.5 NA engine. Thank you both of you for clarifying the doubts. I was thinking why VW has stopped giving 1.6 engine in Vento n Rapid n why are they giving 1.0 tsi engine?
लेकीन आज ये doubts clear हो गये. Thank you so much to both of you !
एक बात कहू! आप दोनो को VW ने brand ambassadors बनाना चाहिए ! फिर किसिकी मजाल नही की कोई और गाडी की तरफ नजर उठा के भी देखे. देखे तो सिर्फ स्कोडा aur VW.
Munish ji is not a human being, he is a computer! Kya knowledge, kya study, kya analysis, kyA explaination ! One in millions! Salute to his knowledge 🙏
Could you please throw some light on 3 cylinder engine n 4 cylinder engine? Because it is a selling point for others vs VW n Skoda.
Tysm
@@SunderdeepSingh Thank you Sir, you always read our comments n reply. That connects us with you n your channel. It Strenghtens the bond 🙏👏👍🏻 Love from Pune.
Thanks a ton sir 🙏🏻
For acknowledging
I recently took polo 1.0 tsi AT to hills.. We wer 4 travelling with our boot full of luggage.. Nowhere did we encounter any lag & to my surprise there was no rollback even on steep climbs or hairpins. Never experienced this kind of engineering in any other brand. Now I know that torque band of 1750 to 4400 was the reason of this performance.. Marvelous explanation buddy!
Absolutely! Jab log experience krte hain tabhi samaj aata hai
I own kushaq 1.0 MT I feel too much lag in city and slopes please share some tips at what rpm we need to switch gears this will really help many if you make a video of it.
Great video from Mr.Munish ji & Sunderdeep ji. I fell that this is the most genuine video from Mr.Munish where he also appreciate the Japanese Technology & also criticised their policies for India w.r.t to their global market(Still offering NA engine even in their top models).
I also want to add in this is that when someone got paddle shifters with Turbo engines, then one can easily adjust that turbo lag & the turbo engine is always in its boil situation.
I believe the reason why people loves Honda is their Comfort, Safety, reliability & fun to drive(with only manual Vtech, not their sluggish CVT)
Vtech kicks in bro!😊
Great explanation. All engines have idle at around 850 rpm. Hence 1.5 NA engine will produce more power than Turbo in a standing position. Hence we all witnessed issues in AC functioning on red lights as Turbo spools in 2nd gear.
Low end torque lag in small capacity 3 cylinder engines is a pain in ass, nobody explains this difficulty in slow speed low rpm driving in small capacity turbo engines.
Low end rpm, drivability is better in NA engines. Turbo with 3clynder engines feels dead even on flat foot on accelerator at low end rpm. Engine vibrations are most welcome 😂
Yes sir you are right in Thailand or in other countries 1.0 turbo is given by Honda but the thing is if you wanna to drive Honda City alone then anyday I prefer 1.5 VTEC because the feeling of hitting an 7200 RPM is just something else I'm youngster I love to reving an enjine but for practicality I choose 1.0 turbo because if you touring with your family it give good mid range but in city again 1.5 is better as it has not turbo lag so both are good enough.
Fantastic session!!!
The difference between usable torque in NA engines & full utilization of torque over a band of 2700 rpm in turbo engines, is what that brings smile on your face while driving turbo engines.
Also, Volkswagen provides you 1) engine activation/deactivation technology in 1.5 TSI, to achieve mileage of 20 KMPL with turbo petrol at speed 80 to 90 kmph, even enthusiasts achieve mileage of 12-15 kmpl on highways (at speed above 100 kmph) 2) Virtus comes with 5 STARS Latin American rating & Taigun with 5 STARS global NCAP 3) Excellent high-speed & cornering stability.
So, VW is providing you, fun to drive turbo petrol engine with high fuel efficiency, highest safety, longer car life at pocket friendly purchase price..... Aur kya chahiye ? 😄
People say, there is no perfect car, i say VW Virtus is a perfect car!!!!!
I agree with you Sunder Ji, Volkswagen knows how to make a perfect product but they dont know how to sell it!!!!!
Absolutely agreeing with you. The conversation just ends here. Volkswagen: The people’s car. 😇
@@fanboi3752 majak toa koreans kar rahe hai @ 22 lacs
Toyota Hyrider ki price search karna zara. Engine specifications bhi padh lena agar padhna aata hoga to. Aur haan jab Koreans aur Japanese copycats India mei 5 stars laana shuru krdein to baat krlena. Creta bhi 19 Lakh tak jaati hai. Uski engine specs padhna. Just because cosmetic features zyada hai to iska mtlb ye ni kuch bhi boli jaao. Aur haan. Average bhi bohot nikal deti hai 1.0 TSI. Nahi yakeen hota bohot saari videos padhi hai 20-25 ki avg aram se deti hai highways mei.
@@fanboi3752 Haan to krlo Toyota ke saath. 4 steps aage rahe hai Germans Toyota se. Sirf ek cheez jo Toyota ko amazing bnaati hai vo hai unka Production System.
Power to weight ratio kon krega bete? Aur haan petrol ko diesel ke saath compare kr rha hai isse badi moorakh baat kon kr skta hai?
I myself own skoda slavia 1.0 manual and its a very good engine no doubts and my relative own honda city 5th gen and i live in Shimla and i can tell you driven both cars over 5000 km the Na 1.5 performs better with 4 passenger with ac and cargo in the trunk small turbo engines are mid range centric which gives it like a diesel like character i i will explain that diffrenlty the drawbacks of a small turbo engine. but what i want to add more is that
A Dyno chart is the plot of the horsepower and torque across an X-Y axis. An ideal engine is the one which has the power and torque peaking around the same rpm point closer to the redline, which gives the motor phenomenal top end power. A plot with the torque peaking earlier than the peak horsepower, means its going to be a mid-range oriented package. Poorly tuned engines make peak horsepower earlier, which is a long term catastrophe to the engine.
So what is an ideal curve and how it should look?
All petrol engines make peak power very close to their redline. A car with a 6500rpm rev-cut makes peak power at 6400rpm. The 5th gen Honda city i-vtec 1.5L makes 121ps@6600rpm with a redline fixed at 7000 and 145nm of torque at 4300 rpm. This translates to a really peppy motor with superb response. The power peak closer to the redline is what makes a stock or tuned petrol engine fun to drive, which also defines the character of the engine. The legendary Honda city i-vtec 1.5 with its DOHC 16V motor is so much fun to drive, due to the relatively high rev cut at 7100rpm and with the power and torque peaking way higher than the other cars in its category.
So when any exhaust or intake tuning is being made to a petrol engine, its important to build the right peak power and torque.
A badly tuned exhaust or intake tune can result in a drop in the peak power and torque which gives bad engine response, even if you have managed to get some extra power.
In turbocharged engines, the turbo sizing and everything else around it determines the peak power and torque point.
Below is a pic of a Honda civic i-vtec's dyno report - turbocharged . The green line is horsepower and red is torque. A stock civic makes peak power @ 6600rpm as recorded on the dyno. The car in the example runs a Garrett GT28 ball-bearing turbo with external wastegate and a standalone ecu with drive-by-wire control. With tuned intake and exhaust dimensions and right sized turbo, the car (with a factory stock engine) now makes peak power at its 7500rpm redline which gives superb top-end response and breathes efficiently. The i-VTEC engagement is in sync with the power band climb, making it linear and driveable.
On the other hand, the same engine can make high horsepower at a far lower rpm range, with a diminishing power band which is a result of bad volumetric efficiency. A diesel like power band from a petrol engine is not-so-fun to drive although the gain in horsepower is going to make the car faster anyway. Shifting the powerband earlier than stock with a higher redline only results in stress and eventual damage to the engine. The powerband character of the engine is key to long term reliability and its really important to understand where an engine makes peak power, rather than how much peak power it makes!
Thats the reason sports cars and sports bike to have high revving engine and makes their power higher in the rev range
I hope you take my feedback positiviely. :)
Brother, have you copy pasted this from somewhere because it is written ‘below is the pic of…’. Having said that, I personally found Turbo Engines better after driving N number of NAs and Turbos. NAs redline more and make you feel that you are fast but in Turbo, it does the job at 2500-3000 rpm itself with no drama. Tell me one thing please, why Honda is providing 1.0 Turbo in Thailand & Singapore as a premium line over 1.5 NA? That should seal the answer that what is better in the performance.
@@SunderdeepSingh it's an article from Race concept renown tuning company. But how dose it feel below 1750 rpm and above 3500 rpm dose it performs like a 1.5 i-vetec a 1 liter turbo will show its character of being a 1 liter below 1750 and after 3500 that's the sweet spot where as a na 1.5 has all the rev range from 1k rpm to all the way 7k rpm that flat curve of torque between 1750 to 3500 rpm is good but thats the only power band you have. In Singapore they get the same 1.5 L I-vtech dohc engine even in the rs version . That dosent mean that 1. Liter ivtech is better in performance their are many different reasons a manufacturer is giving different engine in different markets in thiland their is no option of 1.5 even they do not get a manual gearbox dose that mean manual gearbox is not good the city in thiland also miss many features that Indian city have and a drag race between 1 liter skoda slavia or virtus ( manual ) vs City 1.5 manual will actually seal the ans and also why is city complete 1 sec faster than salvia and virtus 1 liter respectively from 0 -100 m.th-cam.com/video/m2qExaEwn0g/w-d-xo.html in this video its much better explained than I can . Anyways love your content . ❤️❤️
Low end torque lag in small capacity 3 cylinder engines is a pain in ass, nobody explains this difficulty in slow speed low rpm driving in small capacity turbo engines.
Absolutely true
what an ease of explanation
once i went to hills in Wrv vtec2019 with 3 elder and 1 kid while climbing the hill in 3rd gear the car turned off due to low revs my friend was driving and didn't had much experience of hill climbs car got of and then it needed to be turned on again and pulled car in 1st gear and car was revved crazy with loud engine noise
with turbo engine hill climb would be ease turbo s are best.👍🏻
Just booked my Virtus 1.5 GT Red Colour today.
Can't wait for it 🤩
Congratulations 🥳
Thank you sir :)
Paji I live in Manali and I own a polo TSI 1.0. And let me tell you that I enjoy a lot driving my polo in curvy roads the handlind the power man I can not describe the feeling. (2yrs since I bought polo) and I’m not regretting it no problems nothing everything is going smooth
Your comment is going on my Insta & YT feed
For sure sir🤞🏻👍🏻
It cleared all my confusion about 1.0 turbo and 1.5 NA ….the rpm concept is add on to our knowledge
Sir before watching your video with Munish sir I was also thinking that 1.5 NA is much better than 1.0 turbo but now my myth is broken thank you very much for such an informative video
Amazing video on the difference between NA and Turbo and bursting the myths between the two. What is also special in this video is the way the topic is explained so simply with good examples. That is the beauty of this video
Hello Sunderdeep, keep it ON. One of the best Indian Vehicle videos I have ever seen…right amount of Technical and practical stuff. I am booking 1.0 KUSHAQ/ SLAVIA, after this…had some doubts since last few days..all gone..
Thanks and kudos to you. Tc and keep up the good work.🎉🎉🎉
Thanks 🙏
I recently explored Kashmir in my 1.0tsi rapid with full boot and two passengers on board and believe me it was a true pleasure very smooth incline in 3rd and 2nd gears in bumper to bumper traffic even 1st gear was very smooth on low rpm. It's a true gem❤
Awesome explanation... We are turbo charger fans....
I'm a car enthusiast too...
Love from Assam
Hi Munish ji, Only issue which I faced in my kushaq 1.0 MT in steep hills is that below 1750 rpm , due to turbo lag we may have to gear down to 1st gear where 1.5 NA engines can pick up in 2nd gear. Because in steep hills when speed is very less say 20 kmph, rpm in second gear may be less than 1750 rpm. So in that situation we have to lower to first gear.
NA engine is BETTER on HILLS. PERIOD.
TURBO LAG CAN'T BE IGNORED.
@@peaceful_indian2559
You need to know how to drive on hills with turbo engine
I drove whole of Uttarakhand with 2nd gear in my slavia 1.0 Mt MO problem
Point is to get high torque you have to rev above 1600 to get turbo in effect
And lag is knowingly provided so that in traffic it does not accelerate suddenly
You need to know how to drive on hills with turbo engine
I drove whole of Uttarakhand with 2nd gear in my slavia 1.0 Mt MO problem
Point is to get high torque you have to rev above 1600 to get turbo in effect
And lag is knowingly provided so that in traffic it does not accelerate suddenly
@@skulchand2177Could you help telling how much mileage you get in city, heavy traffic and highways?
When I took the test drive of VW Taigun 1.0 AT and another brand NA engine, I somehow felt Taigun felt much better while driving. I thought it was because of the build quality, metal etc. But never ever thought this crucial aspect of RPM vs Torque chart at 15:30. Thank you. Getting the delivery of Taigun 1.0 AT tomorrow.
Proud Owner of Slavia Style 1.0 AT, 10K on Odo in 5 months.
Did many long drives, hills, highway, city etc with 5 people and full boot and it never surprises me with the sheer amount of power.
Amazing and well efficient engine.
Absolutely! Same here Brother, proud owner of Slavia AT Ambition
Could you help telling how much mileage you get in city, heavy traffic and highways?
@@TravelAndMachines for AT:
City Bumper to Bumper traffic around :8-11
City normal traffic: 13
Highways - 18-23
@@ambasthanipun thanks ton. How much would be for MT. Any idea?
@@TravelAndMachines +2 or +3
I drove a Venue T-Gdi with a proper 6-Speed Manual gearbox. The torque output claimed is 172Nm starting at 1750rpm. But actually, in real life conditions, I actually felt that the peak 172Nm torque is commencing after 2500rpm.
That’s quite interesting. In my both T-Roc & Slavia it hits before 2000 very easily.
That claimed peak torque @1750 probably means peak torque measured at crank, but while driving what we feel is peak torque at wheels so a diff will be there. Same is the case in my polo 1.0
@@kalainaveen Yea, I think there should be more dyno Centres in India to know actual figures at respective rpms. It will determine the engine health as well.
Proud owner of 1.0 Virtus AT
Super thanks to you both , I've never listened this much seriously even in my Btech classes.I understood very clearly. Kudos 🙌🙌💚💚
…sunder jeet ji listening, pure listening !!!
I am also happy user of 1.0 turbo engine with dct, experience is very good coupled with dct transmission. Car always runs stress free and in city highway and hills.
Manish Sir, explanation about technology is next level and simple. That's why I call him Proffecer Sir.🙏🙏🙏⚘️
life time proud owner gen by gen vw turbo tsi ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Good work Sundardeep ji and munish ji. This conversation should be reached to new young car buyers. Very helpful🙌🏼
I hope my next car will be from a VW family sooner. Now it has become my dream and inspiration to be more enthusiastic about my work so that I can reach up to this brand.
Mata Rani Kirpa Karein 🚩🙏
The way you are explaining is very well appreciated.
Kind of research and efforts you are taking is simply great.
Keep up good work.
Aankhen kholdi sir...thank so much
I really feel good on randomly bumping into this video on TH-cam after taking decision to go for 1.0 MT TGDI Hyundai , I can really have more technical aspects and better argument facts than before and people should also understand that their popular desh ki car TATA nexon and Mahindra 3xo also comes with turbocharger 3 cylinder but they get bothered only with Hyundai 1.0 tgdi or VW 1.0 TSI
Tata Mahindra needs to improve a lot in this department yet. Tata lately made their GDi engine, the older one was mpi turbo.
@@SunderdeepSingh gdi is safe sound and practical they should put that in their cars quickly since they know they can’t perform like Suzuki with their MPI engines
Next month me car purchase karne wala tha kisi or brand ki . Is video k bad me VW and sakoda bhi consider karuga 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Small size turbo engines saves fuel only when you drive them sedately and are very sensitive to throttle inputs. The idea of small turbo engines saving fuel is a very dicey concept. When the turbo is on boost, there is forced induction of extra air into the engine and in order to maintain the ideal air/fuel ratio, there is extra fuel injected into the engine which does not do well for fuel efficiency figures. So, even at low rpm's on boost turbo engine will consume extra fuel.
PS: Feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong.
why did he ignore yr comment, you are saying correct thing
@@nikhil9555 there are well documented videos on youtube channels like 'Engineering Explained', where they explain why small turbos aren't really that efficient. People who want to know more can check it out.
@@nikhil9555 he ignored my also😂
Yes 100% true but it also depends on tuning and at what rpm turbo kicks in
Slavia/virtus turbo kicks in at 2000 rpm
At flat surface upto 2000 is working ok optimal fuel consumption
But on hills low gears and high rpm will lead to more consumption of fuel
Slavia/virtus 14-19 km city mileage
With 55-65 km/hr speed
20-25 km on highway with 87-98 km/hr and rpm at around 2000-2100
@@skulchand2177 not true. Even Alto don't give 18-19 in city which you are claiming. The manual gives 11-13max and the AT gives 7-9kmpl in city (actual city conditions) and not cruising around on empty roads after 10pm. Highway efficiency is good but again, it will never achieve 20+ when calculating tank to tank
Wow, super correct explanation, I own a Skoda Rapid 1.0 TSI. I Can say this is 100% correct.
Great job 👏, salute you both. This type of content and knowledge we Indian customers should gather and only then take your buying decisions wisely 😊
Excellent explanation Manishji and Sundarji....very nice. Thanks a lot for explaining with such technicalily.
Great combination. Nice work is being done by both of you. Proud to be owner of VW Polo since 2016
Guys, Just to prove his point right Manish ji forgot to consider the behaviour of 1.0 tsi below 1750 rpm. That engine is dead before that. And from 1000 rpm idle to 1750 rpm is the band where you will be while in stop go traffic and steep hills climb at low speed. That's where it fails and that's why we say no replacement of displacement. And by no means turbo charged small engines are fuel efficient, you can not get the turbo rush without burning additional fuel. Before 1750 rpm torque of 1.0 tsi is 35 nm where as any 1.5 NA would not be having less than 90 nm before 1700 rpm. PS: I hate creta seltos.
I drive 1.8 tsi laura and 1.8NA civic.
So small capacity turbo charged engines are not good for steep climb at low speed is still true
Bro, I have 1.0 AT Slavia, please stop lying for heaven’s sake
@@SunderdeepSingh you are lucky, you have torque converter masking the dead zone for you. I am only talking about manual 1.0 tsi. I have test driven it couple of times. I am not saying its a bad engine but its not for someone who needs power initially in rev band
By Far ... the best informative video, I more confident with VW turbo now wrt to naturally aspirated.
No one is buying natural aspirated engine car on hills to drive above 4k of rpm,
Its bcz when your car will be in halt position at steep hill than an NA engine will give much better initial torque than any turbo engine.
That's why alto is the king of hills, not considering its safety rating though.
Else in normal driving conditions Turbo engine rocks at a cost difference of approximately 1lac😁
Turbo not for hills in stop go faced same prblm in leh
Appreciate the efforts towards educating people at large. NA engines have got no edge over turbo engines when it comes to performance . But in the case of hybrids, even hybrids also kind of mimic behaviour of turbo engine to some extent. For ex. Toyota Hyryder gives 141 Nm peak torque from 0-3995 rpm thanks to electric motor and beyond 4k rpm engine gets activated for further power boost. Not much of difference from 1.0 Tsi engine’s peak torque of 178 nm. The trade off here is though better fuel efficiency. So for someone eying fuel efficiency hybrids become clear winner here.
Boht ache se samjhaya aap dono ne❤ Dhanyawad 🙏
"There's no replacement for displacement". This line no longer holds weight in today's time. Technology is replacement for displacement and that's exactly what the modern turbocharged petrol engines are doing.
Please do shed light on 1.0/1.2/1.6MPI engines as well - compared to other non turbo engines
my answer to ur query is that dont believe the power and torque figures of mpi engines given by vw in reality they generate more power and torque than specsheet
@@mandeepsingh9469 1.2 ltr MPI is terribly underpowered in hilly areas
lovely video Sundar and Munish Ji ! Bahut aasan kar diya apne engine dynamics samajhna ..thanks ton ..love to both of you !
hello sunderdeep ji & manish ji. regarding power and torque, in layman terms power is how fast you can go, and torque determines how fast you will reach that fast. on more thing about 1.0 tsi engines being spontenous is that they are square in nature , i.e, bore diameter and stroke is of same length, due to turbo charging the air is pushed in the combution chamber hence they dont have to worry about the intial torque, while in case of na engines they need longer stroke to and big crank shaft to do the same thing which makes them heavy, and heaft is enemy of peppy engine, it is the same reason the 1.0 is more enjoyable than that of 1.5 tsi.
secondarly what turbo charging is doing is that its chopping of one cyclinder. hence less frictional losses and more mechanical efficency . in layman terms if you need 4 men to do certain task , now same task can be done with 3 mens with better end results.
also about the life , since its a direct injection engine , the valve stem lubrication isnt a issue . in na the valve stem looses lubricaton because of direct contact with fuel. .
you want to take out more torque and power from small 1l engine which is a 3 cylindr unit compared to 1.5 ivtec obv there will be a difference in reliabilty seen old accords , citys on roads 2001 model low end is way better than 1l tsi i appreciate technology but somewhere video is going towards VW 1.5,1.8 ivtec unit by Honda is stress free and just change engine oil , filter and you are good to go.
…..again n again listening this video
I have altroz top variant icng & I must say it's one of the best engine so far*************
Lot of confusion regarding driving DSG. Simple video with pedal and gear shift explaining how to start, stop in signal, rev, manual mode Change will be greatly helpful
Hats off sir nice video....👍🏻🙏🏻
Sir ji mazak nahi kar raha yeh video dekhne ke bad lag raha hai ki mai kuch zada hi jaan gaya car ke engine ke bare mai 😅😍... Agar Bachchan mai teachers ne aise hi para diya hota toh aj turbo engine ki video apni terrace mai nahi apni taigun mai baith ke dekh raha hota... 😌 😅😍
Munish paaji ek hi dil hai, kitni baar jeetoge?❤
You just said the reverse, torque is abilty to do work, power is how quickly you can do the work. torque can be increased with gears but not power, means if a vehicle can not pull a load in certain gear, u just need to downshift to increase the torque but u will decrease the speed.
One of the Most informative video... Thank you
Munish ji, I respect your knowledge 🙏🏻
Sunderdip ji, I respect you bringing such a great conversation on your channel. Waiting for the next part 😍😍
The most detailed video I have ever seen.
Driving seltos turbo diesel 250 nm torque range 1500 to 2750 rpm. I’m enjoying.
Amazing Engine
20 minutes is the perfect size of video.....
Gajab technical discussion…. 👏👏👏
In-depth knowledge shared I think it can change the decisions people make in buying cars
Ik baat yee b btana chahta hu Toyota ka inline engines are much faster than turbocharger engines from other brands im not a fan of toyota or any other brand except audi and VW are my fav im just telling what i saw and knew
Such a valuable and detailed video. Really appreciate your content being out of the league.
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@@SunderdeepSinghI own kushaq 1.0 MT I feel too much lag in city and slopes please share some tips at what rpm we need to switch gears this will really help many if you make a video of it.
1 small limitation for turbo engine... as per my understanding
Below 1750rpm.... turbo engine doesn't maneuver in bumper to bumper traffic.
This is where NA engines provides linear acceleration from 0rpm.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Staying in Delhi NCR- below 1500 rpm... we need some torque output to move ahead without playing with clutch and gears.
You are wrong because you haven’t experienced it yet, saying this after owning a Slavia 1.0 AT
@@SunderdeepSingh what about 6 speed manual transmission.
AT gives you little push or creep function in any automatic car which helps in b2b traffic.... but manual gears shifting especially in VAG group cars is a headache in traffic due to long clutch travel.
Only challenge when i drove 1.0 MT and 1.5 i vtec MT
..... city driveablity is better in NA
Due to no turbo lag
Engine performance... no issues...
Very deep explanation on turbo engine i like it
Crystal clear sir g , so easy explanation, thanks 🙏
I have Taigun MT Topline 1.0 TSI. It cruises great on highway. But compared to NA engines, in hills it certainly feels a lil bit off. In steep slopes it needs to be rev hard as compared to NA engines which are comparatively smoother. Plus I want to know one thing, what is the power of a turbo charged engine without the turbo? I mean in steep hills when its difficult to clock 1800 RPM during the advance of the climb and in tough corners on steep slope. Its there where the NA engine with less power feels smoother than this 1.O TSI turbo charged engine.
But sir is it not true that whenever the turbo is operational in an engine it takes more amount of fuel than NA engine so as to avoid the engine knock due to high pressure in engine cylinder due to turbo..but engine coupled in turbo is only fuel effecient when there is no demand of turbo during low revvs..
1.0 TSI ki piston bore stroke, NA 1.5 se bohot zada hai. The turbo used in TSI are as good as turbos used in TDI.
Sunderdeep ji mai aapko bata nahi sakta shabdon mei ki munish ji nei mujhe aaj kya seekha diya hai
Woh torque and rpm wala graph
Mai ab kisi bhi gaadi ka kaccha chittha khol sakta hu
Aur counter kar sakta hu 🙏🏼
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What about carbon deposit problem on inlet valves of a direct injection tsi engine? How to take care of that in the long run?
No video on this, I don't see anyone speaking about it in India
@@latandlon my guess, majority of the people don't know about it!
Thr will be no carbon deposit in turbo engines
@@munishsharma96 why is seafoam so much popular then?
Awesome details. 99% of the car users does not know about it and hence end up taking wrong decision. I am going for Slavia. Just want to know whether 999cc engine also comes with Active Cylinder Control (ACT) technology. They have mentioned s in their brochure that 1498cc engine has this tech but they have not mentioned about it for 999cc engine.
999 cc turbo doesn’t come with that & it’s efficiency change after 5000 kms
Bhai humari Hyundai Getz ne 2.86 lac kms cover kiya hai , 1.1 litre 3 cyclinder naturally aspirated and still running fine
I agree turbocharger are beneficial for us but sabko ache se dekhna chahiye ki komsa engine kisko chahiye but main thing is in india is pricing ik banda hai dusre shehr job krta. Petrol mehnga pehli baat to turbocharger chahiye usko ki jldi bhaage gaadi or but uski salary kam hai or vo inline engine hi lee paata hai this is main problem of india nothing is in straight line. Petrol mehnga leymann will think the turbocharger engines will drink more fuel and also his salary is not good to buy turbocharger engines
Thanks to Ford Ecosport Ecoboost 1.0L which introduced turbo petrol engines in India.
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Nobody is correct or wrong to hate small engines. I also don't like small turbo engines, would anyday prefer a diesel of bigger capacity to a small turbo petrol. Vibes from bigger engines are a lot more fun.
Virtus 1.5 coming soon
May 2023 mei leni hai ☺️☺️
Yes April
Kya baat…. Kya baat…… kya baat
Low end torque lag in small capacity 3 cylinder engines is a pain in ass, nobody explains this difficulty in slow speed low rpm driving in small capacity turbo engines.
Some people are going to argue that NA engines are more reliable than turbo engines. Whats the use of reliable engine when its not practical. I will choose better engine over reliable one if its able to satisfy my needs even though it won’t last long. I will maintain it wholeheartedly if its satisfies me well
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Add a fuel efficiency graph overlapping the torque curve to have a clear picture. The sharper torque curve rise, the sharper the FE falls.
Surely if you will drive at 85-95 with 1.0 TSI for longer period, Turbo will bring better numbers. In City NA will give 1 or 2 km per litre More average.
Superb kuch doubt the vo bahut ache clear hue am also big fan of vw
Am using 1.0 Taigun highline
Superb video
Sir ji, nice informative video. All concepts are cleared. Pls explain CC too so that it's importantace will be ruled out. Just for curiousity can we hv 1.0 with 4 cylinders?
Very good narrated.
I'm looking forward to use slavia 1 ltr mt for commercial purpose, should I?
Torque is twisting force/turning force hota hai diploma m to ye hee padha hai hamne
Why Vento to 1.2L TSI DSG has low bhp and torque than Virtus 1.0L TSI TC? Ideally 1.2L should have more power numbers than 1.0L when these both are having same technology of turbo.. Please help to understand. Thanks
2.0 tsi engine is best in it's class 187hp and 320 torque at low rpm
Thank you for such a valuable information sir.
Turbo engines feels choked in hills & to overcome this problem one needs to keep engine in turbo range & shift geardown in advance sensing steep inclines ,NA have no such issues,we can't maintain vehicle in turbo range on blind curves in hills & once rpm goes down vehicle struggles & you have to start from 1st gear once again
Never felt like that, not sure what cars are you driving
Very well explained but i want to add one thing my garage is little bit high in that case i found 1 lit turbo engine in back gear struggling very hard
Sir confused with 1.5 tsi virtus vs base Innova crysta.drivingperformance .since amount wise 4 lakh only difference.family of 4.want to keep for atleast 7 years.long drives 1200 trips twice a month.at stretch 300 -400 km
None of the engines are truly underpowered; extensive R&D is conducted before they hit the roads. Driving in hilly areas requires skill, as even Range Rovers can struggle with short turns on hairpin bends. For instance, when climbing hills with a turbo engine, ensure it stays above 2000 RPM and around 2200
Very very good 💯
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