The Local Myth Surrounding Julia Lennon's Grave & John Lennon's Ashes, Allerton Cemetery ,Liverpool
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- a myth from surrounding areas over john Lennon's ashes
apparently his ashes were scattered in new york but not confirmed
some say parts of his ashes were flown back to Liverpool to be scattered over his mums grave
some say he is actually buried in Allerton cemetery with his mother
yoko ono has never confirmed where John's ashes ended up some even suggest she has John's ashes under her bed?
i spoke to a man connected in some way and he tells me the myth is true????
yoko ono has never confirmed anything regarding johns ashes
a story I've been fascinated with ever since I learned of it
thanks to benny martin for making the amazing music for this video
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Hi George. Excellent video, mate. I personally don't believe Ono would let anything of her dead husband out of her sight. She was quick to pounce on the house Lennon owned in Gateacre after he died. She had no time or respect for any of his Liverpool family.
Exactly if you read julia baird book you could see the way the tread them
Did HE have any respect for Liverpool or his family? He wanted nothing to do with Liverpool once he was famous, much preferred to live in London or Surrey - not to mention leaving the UK altogether. None of the Beatles or even Cilla Black would go there once they got some cash. I read years ago, there was some anniversary and they asked Paul to attend, and he couldn't be bothered to go. Apart from being born there, I don't think Liverpool can have much claim on the Beatles, unless you want to know them before they were famous.
@@treasurehunteruk9718that isn’t true about Paul . He even paid to refurbish the Liverpool school making it a music school and every year he plays on the Cavern.
@@stevemorris6790 It's true he's involved with LIPA, and attends the graduation every year as well as hosting some masterclasses, but sadly his Cavern gigs are few and far between (1999 and 2018 being the last 2 I can remember).
Well if you listen to Cynthia on you tube reading her book she said Mimi was a not so nice lady. She said John's mother was a lovely lady. So don't blame yoko. Good Lord she was married to John and last I knew the spouse does what their spouse wanted. John liked to visit England but he felt at home in New York. Please let Yoko be in peace she's 90 and in ill health. Have some compassion. Yoko did the New Your spot for the fans. So that's a kind thing she did. She could have kept him in an urn. Sure his sons will take good care of John.
Thank you for this intriguing upload, G. Y O seems to be narcissistic, especially regarding the aforementioned subject.
By the way, I almost met John one old Saturday at 3 Savile Row, January 1970, when I had arranged to meet him to discuss a song I had written.
I waited for circa two and a half hours, before deciding to return to Livingston, Scotland. I had already been advised by the beautiful and charming receptionist et al., Debbie Wellum, that John was often late on Saturdays. (Yes, I was a 19-year-old fool.) On the way down the outside stairs, I noticed two old metal dustbins (uncapped), overflowing with edits from the basement studios. I thought about getting a few string-handled brown paper shopping bags, to fill with tape edits, but then thought I might look like a scrounger ... *Yes, I really was a 19-year-old fool.*
Thank you for the video (and the memories). Subscribed.
Stay free. Rab 🍻😎 ⏰ 🎲 🌠 🕊
*Rest In Peace, John W L*
I think you are repeating yourself ...........
Hi George, thanks for this film. I’d never heard that but the fact that the surname is not on the grave and that. Sandstone is embedded on top could deter fanatics from interfering with the grave so is plausible. I wonder if the sandstone was there before John was supposed to have been buried there. Really interesting, I’ll share this with friends and family who will be interested too. Thank you .
Hi bernadette glad you liked it i never thought of why that sandstone is there it kind of makes sense now you mention it
Very interesting this and one ive been fascinated with for many years
Thanks for sharing it much appreciated
Hi George maybe one day Yoko might inform us about John's ashes, but l though his ashes was buried at his mums grave but can't remember where l heard about this a long time ago interesting video thanks for sharing 👍
I honestly think he is buried at this cemetery with his mum far to many people I've spoken to say exactly the same
Maybe yoko one day can confirm where his ashes are or what was done with them
Thanks for watching martin glad you liked it
@@g2emedia1977 I heard the same thing repeatedly when I mixed in the Beatles scene in Liverpool.
@@FlickeringEmber i recently done an interesting pt2 on this video
thanks for watching btw
Great video I am a big fan of John Lennon.I live in Manchester and made a few trips to Merseyside to photograph landmarks relating to the Beatles.I was amazed by the short distance between Julia's resting place and her former home at 1 Blomfield Road.Must have been about a mile.As to ashes I always thought some were scattered around Strawberry Fields in Central Park New York and some of his ashes are kept in an urn under Yoko's bed.
Thanks for watching glad you liked the video its a very interesting myth one we will probably never get to know the full truth
Yeah,that's what I thought...
Good content this, really intrigued me. The thing is if it wasn’t an exhumation for some reason (these used to always done overnight) then if John has had his ashes put there then I think it has to be on public record with the council, I think. Must be a record of it. A nice thought to think he is with his mum again. Very sad about her though, terrible tragedy to happen. Thanks George, grabbed me like your videos do.
Cheers mate glad you like the video its a really strange one great if he i with his mum as yoko has never confirmed where his ashes are apparently mentioned they were under her bed also apparently scattered in new york but thats also not confirmed
Guess we will.never know
Thanks for watching as always mate much appreciated
I can't understand the person on the recording. I took a private tour when I was in Liverpool in 2014. We went to Julia's grave and there was a new small ceramic cat that hadn't been there last time he was there, but Sean had been in town a few days before and he assumed Sean would have put it there. Also the marker had changed at some point and it was believed that was where they put his ashes, under the new marker.
The professor I took history of rock & roll from (Glenn Gass at Indiana University) said the same thing 20 years ago (that John's ashes were scattered on his mother's grave) and said he confirmed that locally from people who would know. He acted like he was letting the class in on secret that wasn't widely known. He taught several "Beatles in England" summer classes over the years where he'd take students to the various sites.
brilliant thanks for the info i have a follow up video coming soon
thanks for watching
very interesting video thank you for sharing this
thanks for watching glad you liked it
Live by Allerton Cemo for over 50yrs, well known John is in with his Mam, Strange this, but nearby is Cilla Black, Ken Dodd, all Top Liverpudlians who hit the Big time in the 60's.
mad isnt it how many people have heard the same story
Thank you for this video. I had no idea his mother was struck by a vehicle. I always thought she was driving and a car hit her. I always appreciate videos like this and learn the truth. Ty🙏
Thanks glad you liked it a very sad story about his mum rip
@@johnburns4017 It's been reported by this man and others, it was an off duty policeman...
Yes and of duty police man killed her hit by a car not far from menlove av
A drunk off duty policeman,or rather,son of policeman
Sandstone from Woolton Quarry perhaps? Link to John being in The Quarrymen maybe?
Sandstone could possibly be from the old woolton quarry thats a thought
they were named the quarrymen, after quarry bank school (now calderstones school) they attended.
good video and subscribed for more, keep em up laaa
Thanks a lot sorry late reply much appreciated thanks for watching to
Great little interesting video George
Cheers glad you liked it quite an interesting story this one
You know that I wasn't sure about this George!..But you've done it, respectfully!..and I have known this story, and I think its plausible..
Videos are well appreciated,,thanks
thank you glad you like them
I hoping one day Yoko will disclose of his burial site. Maybe then the people and family who were so close to him can give him a proper ceremony. I know it will be filled with lots of love 💕
I think yoko will take that to the grave with her she will never say tje truth about johns ashes
@@g2emedia1977 I agree, G, unfortunately. Y O seems to be narcissistic, especially regarding the aforementioned subject.
By the way, I almost met John one old Saturday at 3 Savile Row, January 1970, when I had arranged to meet him to discuss a song I had written.
I waited for circa two and a half hours, before deciding to return to Livingston, Scotland. I had already been advised by the beautiful and charming receptionist et al., Debbie Wellum, that John was often late on Saturdays. (Yes, I was a 19-year-old fool.) On the way down the outside stairs, I noticed two old metal dustbins (uncapped), overflowing with edits from the basement studios. I thought about getting a few string-handled brown paper shopping bags, to fill with tape edits, but thought I might look like a scrounger ... *Yes, I really was a 19-year-old fool.*
Thank you for the video (and the memories). Subscribed.
Stay free. Rab 🍻😎 ⏰ 🎲 🌠 🕊
*Rest In Peace, John W L*
Agree they should be told now after all these years
...Yoko Ono is never going to disclose sod all !!!! She never told ANY of John's family in England anything about what was happening,much less was anyone invited,only Julian..( she could hardly have excluded him from THAT as well...) and only,strictly, without Cynthia!! ...Yoko Ono is so selfish it's unbelievable! ...she even took away the house from Julia Baird after John's death..,this was a home that was bouht by John for his sister... all that peace and love business...my a..e ! 😢
Hi mate..You know that I wasn't entirely comfortable with you covering this..But you have done it respectfully..its plausible..and the tale was (common local knowledge)..
Yeh i did try a few different video approaches but this one was the only one that seemed to work
Been fascinated with this story for years good to finally do a video on it
Cheers for watching mate
Same tbh. I'm surprised it hasn't been covered before now, but at the same time glad, although this was done respectfully and would have happened sooner or later.
I'm a scouser and a huge Lennon fan. I've never heard this story before. Fascinating to listen to and the video was very respectfully made. New subscriber now 👍
Thank you much appreciated glad you liked the video i done a few ideas but this one fitted the best
Its a really fascinating story this one
Cheers
Hi George..Am i going mad,or did i miss a video you were doing,about the pillbox by springwood cemetery,that had a line of sight to Garston Docks?
No mate i done a coming soon video/intro I'm still yet to finish that one will be heading bk down that way again next week to finish it off
Been dead busy with a vid that coming out in a few weeks to so thats taken a lot of time also
@@g2emedia1977 thanks George..I'm already a bit tapped in the head,so glad i'm not fully qualified for the padded jacket yet.haha
@@g2emedia1977 Hi George i got some info that may be of use to you something you may know or you dont in the line of fire of that Pillbox can meet you and share if its not to late.
Also my driver took me by the first home John had as a baby. Workers were refurbishing it and we stopped to chat. Sean had apparently purchased it and that's why he was there a few days earlier but he didn't get out of the limousine!
i had never heard of this but i had thought myself that it would have been a nice end for John to be reunited wit Julia in this way. interesting.
thanks for watching i have just done a followup video on this also
nice one.
As the saying goes, no smoke without fire mate.👍
True mate
I couldn't understand what the man on the recording said. i turned on closed captions and it couldn't decipher most of what he said either. Too bad, it would've been nice to know what he said.
will be your hearing your the only one to say that lol
pt2 coming soon
thanks for watching
@@g2emedia1977 His accent is thick and I'm unaccustomed to hearing people with that accent. My hearing is great.
I hope John is buried with his mother but I doubt Yoko would allow it.
Also, some cemeteries in the US don't allow the ashes of a person to be buried as it's considered by some to be a sin.
I'm looking forward to part 2
Very interesting video i just wish i could understand the guy you were speaking to. I only caught bits here and there but the bits i did catch were very interesting. Forgive my American ears, i can’t understand the heavy scouse accent but i love it. 😜
Cheers thanks for watching yes sorry i had to change his voice as he is related to the lennons.....in a nutshelm he says lennons ashes are buried there
Any chance you could add subtitles to the recording? Very hard to make out parts of it
I heard a rumour a few years back that his ashes were scattered across the mersey ,dont know how true that is
Heard that one to there is loads of rumors and apparently yoko has never disclosed anything over it
I don't know if that was before or after George Harrison's ashes were (genuinely) scattered over the river Ganges for religious reasons.
Boss vid this george i did hear this myth many years ago so who knows lots of speculation over this one
Keep up the good work mate really enjoy the content
Yes mate indeed lots of speculation over this
Thanks for watching as always matey cheers
Yoko should have had buried John's ashes by his mother's gravesite in Liverpool, maybe if Yoko still has his ashes, and after she passes away, Sean will do exactly that. I always heard that Yoko keeps John ashes under her bed, or they were scattered in STRAWBERRY FIELDS IN NEW YORK.
The strawberry fields one apparently has no confirmation of ever been scattered there but have heard they are under her bed so who knows maybe he is buried on allerton cemetery
@@g2emedia1977 Knowing Yoko, I kind of believe the UNDER THE BED THEORY.
What do you expect from a narcissistic homewrecker who hated his son and family. I do not believe she sent his ashes here in the UK. Rip Cynthia and mummy Lennon
@@bernedettekuteyi3843 Yes, was she TOO SELFISH TO BURY HIM, as I read he DID NOT WANT TO BE CREMATED, but unfortunately that is what Yoko did, and NO FUNERAL TO LET PEOPLE AND FAMILY MEMBERS, pay their respects.
@@dianetherkildsen2686 I'm curious to know how Paul felt about it. Knowing that John did call Paul his brother several times. It's so very unfortunate. 🥺
Poor john lost his uncle goerge who he loved. his mother julia after regaining contact again such a shame she got killed on menlove ave i know what like it is losing a family member being killed by a car john had a chip on his shoulder sad for jaqui and julie too not forgetting its their mum too rip ❤❤❤
I think his name was placed on his mother's grave just for his family to pay their respect to him as they have nowhere to go to do that
Yes was also thinking that myself
Maybe because I'm American, but I couldn't understand what that guy was saying in the audio portion of the video. I got a word here or there, but that's it.
thats scouse for you lol
Use the sub-titles!
I'm a scouser and I couldn't understand it either!
Hi George. My family & myself are from Liverpool I now live in USA I've visited the Dakota a number of times & I heard that because fans was singing so loud all through the night Yoko came down & asked them to stop saying let me mourn, so she then had strawberry fields built across from her apartment for fans to visit, there & central park is were I was led to belive ( some not all) of his ashes was spread. Some people say she didnt even spread them she had staff do it??? Keep up the good work. Thomas Mccarten p.s. my dad knows your dad ✌
Thats very sad a woman how do you even now well Even in his marriage can do whetever he wanted with your own ashes
@@angelicaquirarte I've been a Beatles fan all my life, I know those close to them i read, i listen, i research / study
@@johnburns4017 My Dad is from Warwick gardens in his son.
@@johnburns4017 Tom
Brother is Jimmy John mick charlie
Ashes are at strawberry field in centra park.
and you have solid proof of this ?
I always fell after beatlemania he lose the control of his life with strange people sorounding him 24/7 just for fame celebs execeses etc its pretty sad
I agree, including Yoko.
His ashes are spread in NY at strawberry fields
how do you know?
@@g2emedia1977 google it, also Lennon was a hypocrite, he preached about having no possessions but owned a complete floor in the Dakota apartment’s and had a room for his fur coats. I think we all need better people to influence us.
I believe Yoko Ono had his ashes buried in Strawberry Fields NYC close to his home
Il repose auprès de celle qui lui a donné la vie 😢😢😢😢🙏🏼 Paix et prières d'amour pour toi John tu nous manques énormément 🙏🏼😇
Do Julian or Sean know where he was buried? He was their dad, so they have a right to know. Perhaps they would be more forthcoming than Yoko.
Yoko, still has John's ashes she said
Apparently under her bed
He was lovely
@lillianflorence6056 he was
Where´s Mimi´s and John´s uncle, graves? Their where a big part of his life! Right?
im unsure where they are
Another big myth on the beatles . Everything i know he is not buried with his mom .ashes at strawberry field.
can you prove this?
Where would John's Father, Alfred Lennon be buried.
Sure John was responsible for his burial. He wanted to get close to his at the end of life but, he die of cancer very soon after John looked him up again.
wiki says that his burial is unknown
@@g2emedia1977 thanks
Anfield Cemetery is where Alfred is buried
@@John10lfc Is that perchance the same cemetery where John's mum is also buried?
@@patriciaeddy7629 yes
I wonder if his brothers know?
Has he got any brothers?
@@g2emedia1977 Two half brothers from his father. One lives in Glasgow. Both are much younger than him.
@@boxinggospel5334 the one in Glasgow is a professor at Glasgow University. You can definitely see the resemblance.
*If only true people had a True Place within which we could pay our respects to John.*
*You may call me a Dreamer ...*
All the best, George.
Rab 🕊
You can pay respects at strawberry fields.
Think yoko should tell his fans where his ashes are tbh
Why did the video photo change, and why can’t you hear what this person is saying? Was his voice distorted to protect his identity? Very frustrating, and completely defeats the purpose of making the video. I appreciate your making it, but if you cannot even hear it, what’s the point?
video photo?
voice distorted as hes related to the lennons
Victoria is alive, not dead.
noone said she was dead
He isnt buried at his moms grave. Its his stepfather whos name also was John
can you cofirm this 100%?
Yoko Ono never has yet (and probably never will?) disclose the true whereabouts of John Lennon's cremated remains?, once I heard a story that she had him in a vase inside the Dakota apartment but whether that's true or not has to be confirmed?, but the fact that Yoko never gave John a proper dignified funeral after he died let alone properly disclose where his cremated remains are speaks volumes of the sort of woman she really really is?, John & Yoko always wanted peace✌️& love ❤️ in this crazy violent world 🌎& wanted to live together in peace & love, soon Yoko will eventually be together with John & will definitely be in peace forever although sadly not quite the way they originally planned.
He was kill in New York
i know
If he was still alive his birthday in heaven next month
@michaelsorrells6426 my video said he was killed in new york it was his ashes that were apparently flown back to the uk
check out my pt2 on this video
@@g2emedia1977 I do want to see his apartment where he stay at
He was such a bad man to his son and wife
Not the time and place. Have some compassion for a complicated person.
Do you all really believe that ?? Give me a break. First he Did NOT want Cremation. And a few hours after he was cold blooded killed someone had him cremated. HELLO.
Julie Kilburn. ISA
hello thanks for watching
Rumor has it that he didn’t want creamation. He didn’t tell any of us,people just repeat what they heard,and they didn’t hear it from John.