It's no secret that I loved the Sense Ride v1. Now in its fourth version, the new Sense Ride is a near return to form taking a lot of what worked in v3 and making it better. A solidly fun, responsive trail beast ready to go the distance! What do YOU think of the new version?
@TheGingerRunner I have small/narrow feet ,and Salomon sizing f*k sucks🤣 do you recommend any other tail shoes? And what’s your take on the speedcross? Is it the best trail shoe on the market!?🤣
Awesome review!! Would you say the heel is lower than the 3? My main issue with shoes is my heels either slipping out or breaking the inside of the shoes because they are pointy as hell. The 3 is the first ever that I dont have this problem with so I would be looking for that high heel cap in the 4 as well...
Im gonna go with your word on the 4. Being close to the original. Your video is what made me get the sense ride 1 and absolutely loved them!! Ill wait out on the 4’s.
i have no desire to run in the sense ride 4, as i don't anticipate encountering any terrain that would necessitate a sense ride 4. but i do love me a GingerRunner shoe review, especially when he waxes nostalgic for an earlier version of a shoe.
Just got these and went on a run which included a bit through a river and some muddy terrain. After I cleaned them off I was reminded that we used to use wet socks in hockey skates to protect from blisters and to loosen up the leather a bit. You might call it breaking in or whatever but it was important since you are balancing on a thin blade so those are built with thick plastics or metal because you just can’t naturally balance on them and need a lot of support. Also just walking around with them wet might help them customize to the shape of your foot. The one thing I noticed is that I didn’t have the same soreness and didn’t notice the same impact of other shoes. I’ve never had trail running shoes before so these are definitely a lot better quality but everything is as advertised so far. I only ran for a couple of miles but so far it’s been a great experience.
The Sense Ride 3 is the best fitting shoe I've ever worn! Got really excited about the 4's. I've had a new pair of 4's for a while now and have yet to break them out. Still rockin the 3's hard!
@@LifeInTheLongRun That's tough for me to judge, I have weird feet. Obviously not going to have the room in the toe box like Altra, but if Hoka works for you I think they should be fine. Everyone has always recommended Hoka as a wide shoe and even in their "wide" shoes my arch pushes over the welt and I get blisters. I love the heel cup on them too. Most other shoes I have too much play in the heel and I get blisters. It's taken me three years to find my perfect shoe!
These are great for (not-too-technical) hiking as well. I walked about 300kms in them on the Via di Francesco from Florence to Assisi in Italy earlier this month (June 2022) with a 8 to 11 kg backpack (depending on amount of food and water I carried for the day), and loved them. The terrain varied from tarmac, to dirt-toad, to rocky trails, to mud, and they worked well across the board. Sock-like feel on the upper with great grip and underfoot protection on rocky terrain. Haven't used any of the earlier versions, so I cannot compare, but I would recommend this model for not-too-technical (long-distance) hikes.
The padding that was removed from the heel of the shoe has completely changed the fit for me. Even after sizing down by half a size in version 4, I can't get the same lockdown that I did in version 3. Glad to hear it's working for some people.
Completely agree. I normally wear a 10.5, 11 if it runs small, and had to order a 10 in this. It fit great in a 10 except for the heel which definitely slipped. For the price of this shoe, it has to be perfect, so I returned. I ended up with the Mad River TR2. Looking forward to the next version of the Sense Ride...
I bought some Sense Ride 3’s last spring after Remi Bonnet mentioned they were his go to long run shoe. Having never run in any Salomon shoes before, I was MASSIVELY impressed with the grip. Although they were not the lightest shoe, I just found that amazing grip and really good mid foot lockdown gave me loads of confidence on technical trails, in particular technical descents. I annihilated PRs and Strava segments on technical downhills in the Sense Ride 3’s, and they became my go to for anything technical. Largely a Speedgoat/Torrent runner for races, but am interested to try the Sense Ride 4’s.
I've got into trail running with Sense Ride v1. It's terribly sad we don't have similar shoes. Now for a more cushioned shoe, I just use SG3 that works flawlessly. I really wish Salomon would bite the bullet and shave off some material and put the price point at €/$100 because that would make this series a must-buy every year.
Almost 600km in Sense Ride 3 and about 1000km in Sense Pro 4. And I need the hybrid of those two. Please, Salomon, put Pro 4 grip and stack on Sense Ride 3 - it will be perfect.
Would be a great shoe if it had a lower drop 0-4mm. I don't like running on heels and this model feels very steep. And it's a narrow fit. That's why I went with Sense Pro 4.
@@synlion to be honest, if you are a beginner you would probably not spend so many hours running (less than 8..12h), and so the Sense Ride will give you more ground feel and help you develop proper technique. They still have a lot cushioning, jut a bit more firm one. And they are very good in real alpine tech stuff.
@@cordeiropedro Thanks a lot for the answer. What do you mean by "real alpine tech stuff"? What kind of range (pavement to mountaineering i guess?) have you used them for?
@@synlionwith the sense ride (and most Salomon shoes) you can run wherever you want (or you able to). Steep, rocky, up, down… mountaineering is something else, but you can do scrambling with them very well). For extreme mud they are not the best, but also the Speed Goat aren’t.
I have the Sense Ride 4 and like it. It’s a solid build, durable. I dont like it as much as my S/Lab Ultra 3 but there is a big price difference between the two and the Ride 4 is a solid daily trail trainer
V1 was my absolute favorite shoe ever, I loved them and wore them until they fell apart! V2 was a major disappointment for me, and V3 is now my go-to trail shoe, but I've always felt something's missing and that it's still far from what I loved in the first version. Looking forward to try iteration 4 and hopefully it will be a step back to the original.
I've run in versions 1-3 and thought 3 was amazing. My favourite do it all trail shoe. Loved the midsole update and didn't really feel like there was an downgrade from 2. If this one has lost weight, I will definitely buy 4 when I need a new pair. Found the model to be great for everything from commuting, daily trails to 50 mile races.
Bought the first version on your recommendation and loved it. Running in the 2nd version right now and it's doing well for me. Has more room in the toebox which I need. Look forward to the 3rd or 4th version later this year!!! 👍 Thanks as always for your great reviews!! 😁
I had one pair of 1s, 3 Pairs of 3s, and now on my first pair of 4s. Agree about the break in period on the 3/4. Didn't love them at first but after 100 miles they were amazing. The 3s fit my foot the best which is why I bought 3 pairs. The 4s in a size 10 actually weigh a few grams more than the 3s in a size 10 (unless my scale is somehow off), but they feel a bit lighter on foot. Either way, my favorite trail right now and for 120 (86 on sale) you can't beat the price.
I got them on special so I bought myself a pair. UK 11.5 and in Orange. Very excited to try them. 60 miles though is about 96 kms. That's quite a bit of running. My Salomons Hiking boots have 200 kms on them. And that took me some time to get there. But now it makes sense why they felt so stiff and weird. I was second guessing my shoe size until they broke in. I got them in a UK 11. But didn't expect them to be as tight. I should've gotten the hiking boots in an 11.5 as well. The goretex makes the rigid. And the materials used are super hard. So I'm excited for these Trail shoes. I'll get them on Monday. Oh one thing I did with the hiking boots is throw out the inner sole and replace it with one I bought online. Way better. I'm not a fan of Salomons inners. They are too thin. And don't provide any protection or cushioning at all. The 3rd party ones are way better that I got separate.
Love my Sense Ride 3s. It's weird, but I actually think they get more comfortable, the longer the run is. They just fit so perfectly. Th lugs don't do well for me in the mud, or on very steep stuff, so I go with Hoka Speedgoats for runs that have that. Sense Ride's best on "groomers" to borrow a skiing term. I plan to get the 4s, but I'm a little worried about the change in fit around the heel, because the 3's are so perfect for me.
The Sense Ride 2 GTX was my first trail shoe, bought for winter running during the year I spend in Seattle! I loved it, despite later realizing I don't want gore-tex in my shoes regardless of snow. Having worn Altras since, I have fond memories of the sure-footedness of my Sense Rides; I think it was the firmness of the midsole and the traction combination. I will definitely be picking up the 4s as a summer shoe to see how it works out on my new trails in Colorado. Would love a review of the Terra Kiger 7, Ethan! The yellow colorway is so sharp!
Just bought the black/red combo. I have low volume, narrow feet and like the fit of these so far. I do have click in one show on toe push off. But I’m only 3 miles into the break in. I’ve been in 3 pairs of Nike Wildhorse in row so it’s interesting to compare and change shoes after a hundreds of miles in the Nikes.
I LOVED the sense ride v1. Ran in it when it first dropped and bought new ones every year until 2021. The shoe just worked for me, perfect fit and feel, took me through my first Ultra and training for my 2nd. I recently got the S/lab ultra 3 which I’m loving but it’s just not the same ‘home comfort’ the v1 had. I contemplated the 4 but after seeing this I’m glad I avoided it. Just bring back the v1 magic Salomon!! Please!
I love love love the Sense Ride 4. If you only can buy one shoe to do it all, it would have to be this one. I am disappointed in the insole movement as well, that has been annoying. Other than that it has been great with 100 miles on mine.
Felt in love with SR1 which had been my beater shoes for 800km even with all its problems. Got the V2 & V3 hoping Salomon solved the V1 issues. V3 got better over time but not as responsive as V1 although quieter when wet. V4 ia still in the box waiting its turn while i'm on recovery mode but was surprised that I had to fully down size.
Salomon makes my favorite trail and hiking shoes and I just love the Sense Ride. The 4 is similar to the 3 in many ways and it provides just the perfect balance of cushion and stability for me. Much better than the ON Cloudultra I tried briefly that made my feet tired. BTW, I have stopped tucking the laces, just let them flip-flop and I've stopped noticing it.
Appreciate the thoughtful review, Ethan. I've had the 2, 3, and 4s. The. 2 was great but fell apart pretty quickly, and then I upgraded to the 3, which I love. I prefer it to the 4s. That new heel cup hits my ankle in just the wrong way and caused some very weird friction in longer (6+ hour) runs. Never had that issue with the 3s. I have one pair of 3s with almost 700 miles on them, including several ultras and the Barkley Fall Classic (which will beat up ANY shoe), so that's a testament to their power. I still roll the 4s for shorter distances but Salomon keeps "messing" with this line during each update and I don't think they are ever going to please anyone with one version. I just wish they'd do a version of the S/LAB shoes with the wider "standard" fit (like the Sense Ride), so folks with wider feet could enjoy the "pro" shoes.
I had V1 in Goretex, then V1 normal, then V2, then tried V3 and returned because they were too tight on my big toe, got another pair of V2 off eBay. Been in that configuration for a while. Hopeful that V4 will be good to go and they keep going back towards V1.
It was due to your review that I got excited about this shoe and decided to go for it. I have tried all the versions (except from the 4s). Got 2 pairs of v1, one v2 and currently v3 that I use alternate with Torrent 2. After the durability issues in the upper for the v1 and v2, the v3 felt really good. Same cushioned feeling and agility. No doubt I will get a pair of the 4s later in the year, I also liking the looks of the black/red version, reminds me of S/Lab model.
I have two pair of the Sense Ride 3s. They are my go to shoe for anything under 15 miles. Looking forward to getting a pair of version 4. Ethan, it seems like you have a strong run with "try" in your reviews, but rarely dip into solid "buy" or "why". While I appreciate the buy/try/why, it feels like you need a scale more on a 5 point level. Sorry, but I dont have a suggestion for verbiage on what a 4 or 2 would be. I just feel that a lot of your reviews land in neutral ground. I love your posts and always look forward to your new vids. Take care!
I got the first version after your accolades for that shoe and loved it. Currently have the 3rd version and miss the first...looking forward to giving 4.0 a try!
Really good review ! My favorite was the SSR2. The first Salomon that almost didn't crush my toes to a pulp of blood and blue toenails. It was a perfect upgrade from the 1. As long as the distance was below 20K then they where great. And durable. The 3 was a total miss, as far as I'm concerned. So I'm a bit nervous about the 4. That long break-in periode is..., long... I've been wondering, if its mandatory to have sickly narrow feet to work at Salomon ?
I am currently on the transition to running in barefoot shoes, because with normal shoes I have constant pain in my foot and lower leg when I wear normal running shoes. Since I've been wearing barefoot shoes in my daily life, it has already gotten much better and now I've already completed my first runs in barefoot shoes, but for this I first had to get used to landing on the forefoot. But I'm sure that regular running shoes like those offered by Nike, Asics, Salomon and so on will soon be a thing of the past for me and I can only recommend barefoot shoes to anyone who has constant foot problems.
Same here! Been running in barefoot shoes for almost 4 years and never going back! Used to struggle with knee pain a lot and it has completely gone away. Best decision I ever made
Hi Ethan - have you had a chance to test out the Salomon S/Lab Pulsar? I just got a pair recently (they're actually the first Salomon shoes I've owned) and I've been SUPER impressed with them. Since I haven't worn any other Salomon shoes I'm curious to hear from others how they might compare to the rest of Salomon's trail shoe range.
The Ride v1 was the best shoe I ever had. went through two pairs, each gave me 800-900 miles before the midsole and tread wore out. The uppers fell apart at the forefoot flex around 400 miles, but actually had no impact on the secure fit of them. The Ride v3 looked to have better upper durability out of the box, but it did not at all. The upper on the v3 came apart just behind the overlays after just 200 miles. This made an upper fit that was already incredibly sloppy even worse and created blister spots. Nevertheless I toughed it out to 700 miles in them, but they offered none of that split second softness --> responsive, solid grip that the v1 had. Even worse, the v3 was very unbalanced (probably due to way too much weight in the heal). The v1 helped me win races. The v3 mostly became my road running shoe because I didn't care about beating them up and didn't need stability. I tried the Sense Pro 4, but it didn't offer the stability that the Ride v1 gave me in snow, mud, rocks, and roots. After quite a few rolled ankles in the Pro 4 on New England trails, I now only use them on rolling dirt forest roads. BIIIIGGG fingers crossed that the Ride v4 brings back enough of the v1 to make it a worthy successor for all conditions. If not, Salomon should just bring back the v1 exactly as it was.
I had the same issue with all my Sense Ride from V1 until V3. All had holes at the forefoot flex area especially the outer side. Was excited to see the additional overlay on V3 but apparently it didn't help.
How would you compare the fit to a Sense Pro 4 (trail) shoe? That Sense Pro 4 is the BEST fitting shoe I have ever found for my foot and I'm kind of hesitant to try anything else! (I even stocked up on pairs because I know Salomon might negatively change them if another version happens.)
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I bought Sense Ride 2 in discount last year and sadly it's not my type of shoe. The shoe doesn't fit very well and I had problems with blisters in few places. I have ran more than 300km in them and now it's not as bad as when they were new. Maybe the problem is the bungee laces, I never know how much to tighten them and it's either too firm or too loose. The protection is nice though.
I have the sense ride 4 for a couple of weeks now. I run trails in the netherlands, so mostly roots, sand, mud and gravel roads. A shoe for different surfaces. It is a bit to wide for me. But when my feet warm up, they fit a little better. I don’t know if the have enough stability and grip for mountain trailrunning with rocks.
I bought these a few months ago, but watching the review now?! I really like them, so don't make me paranoid :P I don't use the lace pocket, I couldn't figure it out, so just tuck the pully under the bottom lace and it's fine. Got mine in the green, red is the winner though.
I ran in the 2 but found they lacked any excitement when running & they turned into a day to day wearing shoe, not tried the 4 but it still has a walking shoe look to it to me 👍🏃
What are some of the key differences of the Sense Pro 4 and the Sense Ride 4? I have been using the Sense Ride 2 for a while now. It is the first trail running shoe I ever used and I loved it. Your rave review of the Sense Pro 4 vs. the lackluster feedback for the Sense Ride 4 has me thinking about trying something new.
Do you recommend using this also for casual runs in the gym or on asphalt? I want a shoe that I can wear for casual runs on road but also take out on the trail.
Here in the UK we mostly can't try: it's buy, then ebay at a loss if they're no good. So the design-lurching between versions can be costly, and the damn shoes are already not cheap. Making GR reviews the more valuable, but still leaving us with a why? as we take a £50 hit for wearing a pair once in discomfort, around the garden.
Just took 11th place overall in my first half marathon trail race this weekend while rocking the Sense Ride 3s. Now wondering if I should give the SR4 a shot, or wait to try the new Salomon Pulsar...
Good shoe otherwise but why Salomon put the lace pocket under the laces, does not make sense. Also in my pair there is a clicking sound in the upper material which is quote annoying.
I rewatch your review on the sense ride 2... and you seemed to like it a lot, and gave a "buy" recommendation in the end. Why do you seem to not like the 2 here? asking because currently planning to buy either the hoka torrent 2 or the sense ride 2. the sense ride 2 is on discount.. but still at similar price with the torrent 2 (quite weird).
Thought the same, the comment even says that it’s better than the 1. I bought the 2 instead of the 1 on recommendation from that video. That said, I think the 2’s are brilliant shoes, except when they get wet and sound terrible.
Hey man, love your reviews!! Question… never run in trail just street. I run with hoka one one Mach 4. Which trail shoe can you recommend me to try for my first trail run?? Thanks and keep up the great videos!!
hi Mr Ginger if you could only choose one shoe for walking 28 miles up and down mountains for 14 days what would you pick? as you are the GOAT I would love your thoughts!
I have the S/Lab Ultra 3 but am doing a few more road kays than expected. Are these babies likely to be better wearing for more road/concrete oriented miles than the Ultra 3s?
For racing 100 miles ultra Sense Ride 4 or Sense Ultra 3? They seem very similar except the price. Why would I spend more when Sense Rides are so good?
This is more of a 50K shoe and I wear my Sense Ride 1s on these type of races. Got to love the 1s. If you only run Salomons, a lot of people choose the S Lab Ultra or Ultra Pro. The Ultra Pro a bit heavy though and S Lab expensive. Just my two cents. Have a great race!
@@edwarddapra7674 The Sense Ride 3 is in my opinion more cushioned than the Ultra Pro... I have both, the SR3 is also a few grams heavier...I was wandering why the Ultra Pro exists actually, as they also fit similarly. I prefer the SR3 for an Ultra, 80K is definitely doable, for 160 I think it depends...
Started with 2s loved them then bought 3 pairs of 3s hated them felt like i was balancing on the midfoot did not like, and heel slip. NIce they fixed the heel but sole kinda looks the same idk... Got lone peak 5s and their fitment is dogshit compared to my wide feet worst heel design ever and narrow ass midfoot, never had that much heel slip in any shoe. Aiming toward Topos next
How do they go for trail/road running shoes? I got road running, lots of concrete tracks, not much dirt trails but lots of run over grass or get off the track moments..
I have been using the Cascadia by Brooks for years. I am curious if this would be something a bit more grippy without being a true hiking shoe as I sometimes do trail and pavement runs which I can get away with the cascadias.
The foot feel is similar on both. The Cascadia has more padding. I bought these because the Cascadia 16 has an annoying toe guard bend, and this shoe has the same damn thing, but with a popping sound. The fit and lugs are similar, the padding in these feels cheaper. I'm frustrated with Brooks and Salomon both at this point.
I'm new to trail running looking to get my first shoe that is versatile. I will use it to supplement marathon training, going on trails for 1.5 - 3 hours once or twice a week .I have tried on both the Torrent 2 and Sense Ride 4 and can't decide. Anyone have any input?
I used both the sense ride 3 and torrent 1, about 600km-1000km in each. I like both, but was finding the torrents to cause more ankle rolls, the midsole became soft quickly, and the laces are terrible! I was taking out the sense ride for speedier and more technical trail, while the torrents were being used for more linear and casual runs. Wear on the lugs was about the same for both shoes.
My advice is to be honest with the types of terrain you'll be trail running on. Also, depending on what heel drops you like. For example, I have this shoe and a couple saucony trail runners, including the peregrine 10. I love that 4-5 mm heel drop and at times this shoe can feel like you're running in a high heel. Especially on flats. In addition, if I know I'm going to be out for that amount of time on a lot of roots and rocks, I'm going with the peregrine every time. The woven rock "plate" is fantastic and still gives really good ground feel. The grip in the peregrine is also tremendous in every condotion. So it inspires that confidence to really move through technical terrain. If there's a lot of flat, buffed out stuff, I'm probably reaching for these. Not to say you can't run the compact flat stuff in the peregrine's, but the "feel" is just more comfortable in the sense ride while still being plenty of a trail shoe to tackle tough sections. If it's mostly tough sections, I'm still taking the peregrine. Good luck!
@@robertmorano2372 Thanks! The peregrines were the 3rd shoe that the employee gave me to try on, just weren't as comfortable for my foot shape. Will be running on gravel roads and single track
@@samlissaman3734 the sense ride 4 is a good shoe. It took me some miles to get them figured out, but I'd say my biggest gripe (and I know it's personal) is the 8mm drop. That and when I bought it, I thought it might be a little more cushioned. I wanted it to be a long run, comfy protective thing for the trails because the peregrine is more of an "attack" the terrain fast day shoe. With enough underfoot protection to just move. The sense ride is still good, just not what I bought it for and the fit is not great on my foot. But again, personal. I did switch out the insole from a pair of old road running shoes and the fit is much better. I'm slowly getting along with them and I live a mile from a ton of great forrest trails, so I do love to have something in the rotation that's decent on pavement with plenty of grip for the woods and the sense ride fits that bill nicely. I will say, the grip is great in everything I've had them in. If you like the fit and the 8mm drop, you can't go far wrong with them. Good luck!
It's no secret that I loved the Sense Ride v1. Now in its fourth version, the new Sense Ride is a near return to form taking a lot of what worked in v3 and making it better. A solidly fun, responsive trail beast ready to go the distance! What do YOU think of the new version?
Glad to see it lose some weight! Nice review 👍🏼
@TheGingerRunner I have small/narrow feet ,and Salomon sizing f*k sucks🤣 do you recommend any other tail shoes?
And what’s your take on the speedcross? Is it the best trail shoe on the market!?🤣
Awesome review!! Would you say the heel is lower than the 3? My main issue with shoes is my heels either slipping out or breaking the inside of the shoes because they are pointy as hell. The 3 is the first ever that I dont have this problem with so I would be looking for that high heel cap in the 4 as well...
I absolutely love these trail shoes. I’ve never had sore feet
Im gonna go with your word on the 4. Being close to the original. Your video is what made me get the sense ride 1 and absolutely loved them!! Ill wait out on the 4’s.
i have no desire to run in the sense ride 4, as i don't anticipate encountering any terrain that would necessitate a sense ride 4. but i do love me a GingerRunner shoe review, especially when he waxes nostalgic for an earlier version of a shoe.
Kilian using it last 2020 in his adventures, the best test warranty. In V4 I can use one size less, I think due to heel collar.
Just got these and went on a run which included a bit through a river and some muddy terrain. After I cleaned them off I was reminded that we used to use wet socks in hockey skates to protect from blisters and to loosen up the leather a bit.
You might call it breaking in or whatever but it was important since you are balancing on a thin blade so those are built with thick plastics or metal because you just can’t naturally balance on them and need a lot of support.
Also just walking around with them wet might help them customize to the shape of your foot.
The one thing I noticed is that I didn’t have the same soreness and didn’t notice the same impact of other shoes.
I’ve never had trail running shoes before so these are definitely a lot better quality but everything is as advertised so far.
I only ran for a couple of miles but so far it’s been a great experience.
The Sense Ride 3 is the best fitting shoe I've ever worn! Got really excited about the 4's. I've had a new pair of 4's for a while now and have yet to break them out. Still rockin the 3's hard!
The 3s are awesome. Also looking forward to get a pair of 4's. They look great!
Same. I prefer the 3s; just comfortable right out of the box, super grippy, and they last forever.
How's the fit n volume? I used Altra mostly coz I have wide feet 9.5US men's and comfortable in Hoka 2E width.
@@LifeInTheLongRun That's tough for me to judge, I have weird feet. Obviously not going to have the room in the toe box like Altra, but if Hoka works for you I think they should be fine. Everyone has always recommended Hoka as a wide shoe and even in their "wide" shoes my arch pushes over the welt and I get blisters. I love the heel cup on them too. Most other shoes I have too much play in the heel and I get blisters. It's taken me three years to find my perfect shoe!
These are great for (not-too-technical) hiking as well. I walked about 300kms in them on the Via di Francesco from Florence to Assisi in Italy earlier this month (June 2022) with a 8 to 11 kg backpack (depending on amount of food and water I carried for the day), and loved them. The terrain varied from tarmac, to dirt-toad, to rocky trails, to mud, and they worked well across the board. Sock-like feel on the upper with great grip and underfoot protection on rocky terrain. Haven't used any of the earlier versions, so I cannot compare, but I would recommend this model for not-too-technical (long-distance) hikes.
The padding that was removed from the heel of the shoe has completely changed the fit for me. Even after sizing down by half a size in version 4, I can't get the same lockdown that I did in version 3. Glad to hear it's working for some people.
Agree, just cant lock it down, due to the heal notch, which is shame the 3s where the best fitting shoe ever.
Completely agree. I normally wear a 10.5, 11 if it runs small, and had to order a 10 in this. It fit great in a 10 except for the heel which definitely slipped. For the price of this shoe, it has to be perfect, so I returned. I ended up with the Mad River TR2. Looking forward to the next version of the Sense Ride...
Same! I‘m diasappointed of v4.
I bought some Sense Ride 3’s last spring after Remi Bonnet mentioned they were his go to long run shoe. Having never run in any Salomon shoes before, I was MASSIVELY impressed with the grip. Although they were not the lightest shoe, I just found that amazing grip and really good mid foot lockdown gave me loads of confidence on technical trails, in particular technical descents. I annihilated PRs and Strava segments on technical downhills in the Sense Ride 3’s, and they became my go to for anything technical. Largely a Speedgoat/Torrent runner for races, but am interested to try the Sense Ride 4’s.
Running with the Sense Ride 3 for 350km and loving it! Gonna buy a pair of this just because!
I've got into trail running with Sense Ride v1. It's terribly sad we don't have similar shoes. Now for a more cushioned shoe, I just use SG3 that works flawlessly. I really wish Salomon would bite the bullet and shave off some material and put the price point at €/$100 because that would make this series a must-buy every year.
Kilian says he uses the Sense Ride for 90% of his training. Thats quality.
Almost 600km in Sense Ride 3 and about 1000km in Sense Pro 4. And I need the hybrid of those two.
Please, Salomon, put Pro 4 grip and stack on Sense Ride 3 - it will be perfect.
Would be a great shoe if it had a lower drop 0-4mm. I don't like running on heels and this model feels very steep. And it's a narrow fit. That's why I went with Sense Pro 4.
I used the v1 and the v3. I really love the V3 and I rotate with the Speedgoat 4 depending on the trail type and distance.
Which one would you recommend for a beginner? Would more cushion help a new runner get less fatigue?
@@synlion to be honest, if you are a beginner you would probably not spend so many hours running (less than 8..12h), and so the Sense Ride will give you more ground feel and help you develop proper technique. They still have a lot cushioning, jut a bit more firm one. And they are very good in real alpine tech stuff.
@@cordeiropedro Thanks a lot for the answer. What do you mean by "real alpine tech stuff"? What kind of range (pavement to mountaineering i guess?) have you used them for?
@@synlionwith the sense ride (and most Salomon shoes) you can run wherever you want (or you able to). Steep, rocky, up, down… mountaineering is something else, but you can do scrambling with them very well). For extreme mud they are not the best, but also the Speed Goat aren’t.
@@cordeiropedro where would you say do they hit their limit? I'm guessing hiking with a heavy backpack?
I have the Sense Ride 4 and like it. It’s a solid build, durable. I dont like it as much as my S/Lab Ultra 3 but there is a big price difference between the two and the Ride 4 is a solid daily trail trainer
V1 was my absolute favorite shoe ever, I loved them and wore them until they fell apart! V2 was a major disappointment for me, and V3 is now my go-to trail shoe, but I've always felt something's missing and that it's still far from what I loved in the first version. Looking forward to try iteration 4 and hopefully it will be a step back to the original.
I still use my v1s for some trail races. Its getting long in the tooth though. It'll be a sad day when I have to retire them.
I've run in versions 1-3 and thought 3 was amazing. My favourite do it all trail shoe. Loved the midsole update and didn't really feel like there was an downgrade from 2. If this one has lost weight, I will definitely buy 4 when I need a new pair. Found the model to be great for everything from commuting, daily trails to 50 mile races.
I miss/like your previous backdrop. Great reviews, as always! I enjoyed the Blister podcast episode, too.
Bought the first version on your recommendation and loved it. Running in the 2nd version right now and it's doing well for me. Has more room in the toebox which I need. Look forward to the 3rd or 4th version later this year!!! 👍 Thanks as always for your great reviews!! 😁
I loved version 1....i purchased many pairs of them and my last pair is on its way out guess I’ll give these a try
I had one pair of 1s, 3 Pairs of 3s, and now on my first pair of 4s. Agree about the break in period on the 3/4. Didn't love them at first but after 100 miles they were amazing. The 3s fit my foot the best which is why I bought 3 pairs. The 4s in a size 10 actually weigh a few grams more than the 3s in a size 10 (unless my scale is somehow off), but they feel a bit lighter on foot. Either way, my favorite trail right now and for 120 (86 on sale) you can't beat the price.
I got them on special so I bought myself a pair. UK 11.5 and in Orange. Very excited to try them. 60 miles though is about 96 kms. That's quite a bit of running. My Salomons Hiking boots have 200 kms on them. And that took me some time to get there. But now it makes sense why they felt so stiff and weird. I was second guessing my shoe size until they broke in. I got them in a UK 11. But didn't expect them to be as tight. I should've gotten the hiking boots in an 11.5 as well. The goretex makes the rigid. And the materials used are super hard. So I'm excited for these Trail shoes. I'll get them on Monday. Oh one thing I did with the hiking boots is throw out the inner sole and replace it with one I bought online. Way better. I'm not a fan of Salomons inners. They are too thin. And don't provide any protection or cushioning at all. The 3rd party ones are way better that I got separate.
Love my Sense Ride 3s. It's weird, but I actually think they get more comfortable, the longer the run is. They just fit so perfectly. Th lugs don't do well for me in the mud, or on very steep stuff, so I go with Hoka Speedgoats for runs that have that. Sense Ride's best on "groomers" to borrow a skiing term. I plan to get the 4s, but I'm a little worried about the change in fit around the heel, because the 3's are so perfect for me.
I was just looking at these as I am about to start trail running. Perfect timing!
Great shoe to begin!
The Sense Ride 2 GTX was my first trail shoe, bought for winter running during the year I spend in Seattle! I loved it, despite later realizing I don't want gore-tex in my shoes regardless of snow. Having worn Altras since, I have fond memories of the sure-footedness of my Sense Rides; I think it was the firmness of the midsole and the traction combination. I will definitely be picking up the 4s as a summer shoe to see how it works out on my new trails in Colorado.
Would love a review of the Terra Kiger 7, Ethan! The yellow colorway is so sharp!
Got these from sale today for 50euros, I hope they will perform well in winter in urban setting as a tempo/speed shoe!
Just bought the black/red combo. I have low volume, narrow feet and like the fit of these so far. I do have click in one show on toe push off. But I’m only 3 miles into the break in. I’ve been in 3 pairs of Nike Wildhorse in row so it’s interesting to compare and change shoes after a hundreds of miles in the Nikes.
I LOVED the sense ride v1. Ran in it when it first dropped and bought new ones every year until 2021. The shoe just worked for me, perfect fit and feel, took me through my first Ultra and training for my 2nd. I recently got the S/lab ultra 3 which I’m loving but it’s just not the same ‘home comfort’ the v1 had. I contemplated the 4 but after seeing this I’m glad I avoided it. Just bring back the v1 magic Salomon!! Please!
I had 2 pairs of Sense Ride 1 and 1 pair of Sense Ride 3. I'll be buying these for sure.
I love love love the Sense Ride 4. If you only can buy one shoe to do it all, it would have to be this one. I am disappointed in the insole movement as well, that has been annoying. Other than that it has been great with 100 miles on mine.
I love the way salamon uppers feel. I wish the midsole had just a little more softness ( not hoka soft) (ok maybe torrent soft) and bounce.
Felt in love with SR1 which had been my beater shoes for 800km even with all its problems. Got the V2 & V3 hoping Salomon solved the V1 issues. V3 got better over time but not as responsive as V1 although quieter when wet. V4 ia still in the box waiting its turn while i'm on recovery mode but was surprised that I had to fully down size.
I tore through the side of 2 pairs of sense ride 1’s in 4 months but they were my trail runners from Salomon.
The first sense were amazing!!! God do i miss them.
Salomon makes my favorite trail and hiking shoes and I just love the Sense Ride. The 4 is similar to the 3 in many ways and it provides just the perfect balance of cushion and stability for me. Much better than the ON Cloudultra I tried briefly that made my feet tired. BTW, I have stopped tucking the laces, just let them flip-flop and I've stopped noticing it.
Appreciate the thoughtful review, Ethan. I've had the 2, 3, and 4s. The. 2 was great but fell apart pretty quickly, and then I upgraded to the 3, which I love. I prefer it to the 4s. That new heel cup hits my ankle in just the wrong way and caused some very weird friction in longer (6+ hour) runs. Never had that issue with the 3s. I have one pair of 3s with almost 700 miles on them, including several ultras and the Barkley Fall Classic (which will beat up ANY shoe), so that's a testament to their power. I still roll the 4s for shorter distances but Salomon keeps "messing" with this line during each update and I don't think they are ever going to please anyone with one version. I just wish they'd do a version of the S/LAB shoes with the wider "standard" fit (like the Sense Ride), so folks with wider feet could enjoy the "pro" shoes.
I had V1 in Goretex, then V1 normal, then V2, then tried V3 and returned because they were too tight on my big toe, got another pair of V2 off eBay. Been in that configuration for a while. Hopeful that V4 will be good to go and they keep going back towards V1.
Great review. Catamount review soon please! It is brilliant light feeling trail shoe for none muddy days
It was due to your review that I got excited about this shoe and decided to go for it. I have tried all the versions (except from the 4s). Got 2 pairs of v1, one v2 and currently v3 that I use alternate with Torrent 2. After the durability issues in the upper for the v1 and v2, the v3 felt really good. Same cushioned feeling and agility. No doubt I will get a pair of the 4s later in the year, I also liking the looks of the black/red version, reminds me of S/Lab model.
I have two pair of the Sense Ride 3s. They are my go to shoe for anything under 15 miles. Looking forward to getting a pair of version 4.
Ethan, it seems like you have a strong run with "try" in your reviews, but rarely dip into solid "buy" or "why". While I appreciate the buy/try/why, it feels like you need a scale more on a 5 point level. Sorry, but I dont have a suggestion for verbiage on what a 4 or 2 would be. I just feel that a lot of your reviews land in neutral ground.
I love your posts and always look forward to your new vids. Take care!
I love the blue looked for it all over South Africa and then I found it and never looked back
I got the first version after your accolades for that shoe and loved it. Currently have the 3rd version and miss the first...looking forward to giving 4.0 a try!
Really good review !
My favorite was the SSR2. The first Salomon that almost didn't crush my toes to a pulp of blood and blue toenails.
It was a perfect upgrade from the 1.
As long as the distance was below 20K then they where great.
And durable.
The 3 was a total miss, as far as I'm concerned.
So I'm a bit nervous about the 4.
That long break-in periode is..., long...
I've been wondering, if its mandatory to have sickly narrow feet to work at Salomon ?
I am currently on the transition to running in barefoot shoes, because with normal shoes I have constant pain in my foot and lower leg when I wear normal running shoes. Since I've been wearing barefoot shoes in my daily life, it has already gotten much better and now I've already completed my first runs in barefoot shoes, but for this I first had to get used to landing on the forefoot. But I'm sure that regular running shoes like those offered by Nike, Asics, Salomon and so on will soon be a thing of the past for me and I can only recommend barefoot shoes to anyone who has constant foot problems.
Same here! Been running in barefoot shoes for almost 4 years and never going back! Used to struggle with knee pain a lot and it has completely gone away. Best decision I ever made
Just bought these for discgolf. Hope I like them
Hi Ethan - have you had a chance to test out the Salomon S/Lab Pulsar? I just got a pair recently (they're actually the first Salomon shoes I've owned) and I've been SUPER impressed with them. Since I haven't worn any other Salomon shoes I'm curious to hear from others how they might compare to the rest of Salomon's trail shoe range.
The Ride v1 was the best shoe I ever had. went through two pairs, each gave me 800-900 miles before the midsole and tread wore out. The uppers fell apart at the forefoot flex around 400 miles, but actually had no impact on the secure fit of them. The Ride v3 looked to have better upper durability out of the box, but it did not at all. The upper on the v3 came apart just behind the overlays after just 200 miles. This made an upper fit that was already incredibly sloppy even worse and created blister spots. Nevertheless I toughed it out to 700 miles in them, but they offered none of that split second softness --> responsive, solid grip that the v1 had. Even worse, the v3 was very unbalanced (probably due to way too much weight in the heal). The v1 helped me win races. The v3 mostly became my road running shoe because I didn't care about beating them up and didn't need stability. I tried the Sense Pro 4, but it didn't offer the stability that the Ride v1 gave me in snow, mud, rocks, and roots. After quite a few rolled ankles in the Pro 4 on New England trails, I now only use them on rolling dirt forest roads. BIIIIGGG fingers crossed that the Ride v4 brings back enough of the v1 to make it a worthy successor for all conditions. If not, Salomon should just bring back the v1 exactly as it was.
I had the same issue with all my Sense Ride from V1 until V3. All had holes at the forefoot flex area especially the outer side. Was excited to see the additional overlay on V3 but apparently it didn't help.
How would you compare the fit to a Sense Pro 4 (trail) shoe? That Sense Pro 4 is the BEST fitting shoe I have ever found for my foot and I'm kind of hesitant to try anything else! (I even stocked up on pairs because I know Salomon might negatively change them if another version happens.)
I bought Sense Ride 2 in discount last year and sadly it's not my type of shoe. The shoe doesn't fit very well and I had problems with blisters in few places. I have ran more than 300km in them and now it's not as bad as when they were new. Maybe the problem is the bungee laces, I never know how much to tighten them and it's either too firm or too loose. The protection is nice though.
I have the sense ride 4 for a couple of weeks now. I run trails in the netherlands, so mostly roots, sand, mud and gravel roads. A shoe for different surfaces. It is a bit to wide for me. But when my feet warm up, they fit a little better. I don’t know if the have enough stability and grip for mountain trailrunning with rocks.
A review of the new VJ Ultra coming up? If you haven't tried the VJ shoes before your in for a real treat :)
I bought these a few months ago, but watching the review now?! I really like them, so don't make me paranoid :P I don't use the lace pocket, I couldn't figure it out, so just tuck the pully under the bottom lace and it's fine. Got mine in the green, red is the winner though.
Good shoe and decent Value. I enjoy the 3's! I will keep my eagle eye on the 4's if they (when) on sale. (more money for broccoli)
I ran in the 2 but found they lacked any excitement when running & they turned into a day to day wearing shoe, not tried the 4 but it still has a walking shoe look to it to me 👍🏃
do you think this shoe would be good for people with plantar fasciitis? love the review by the way!!!
What are some of the key differences of the Sense Pro 4 and the Sense Ride 4? I have been using the Sense Ride 2 for a while now. It is the first trail running shoe I ever used and I loved it. Your rave review of the Sense Pro 4 vs. the lackluster feedback for the Sense Ride 4 has me thinking about trying something new.
Do you recommend using this also for casual runs in the gym or on asphalt? I want a shoe that I can wear for casual runs on road but also take out on the trail.
just got the gortex version, first salomon shoe ever...
Here in the UK we mostly can't try: it's buy, then ebay at a loss if they're no good. So the design-lurching between versions can be costly, and the damn shoes are already not cheap. Making GR reviews the more valuable, but still leaving us with a why? as we take a £50 hit for wearing a pair once in discomfort, around the garden.
Dude!!! 5:50 no glue!!!!! People like me who have cerebral palsy neeeeeeed a removable insole
You need to review the altra escalate racer. They are awesome and more people need to know about them.
Just took 11th place overall in my first half marathon trail race this weekend while rocking the Sense Ride 3s. Now wondering if I should give the SR4 a shot, or wait to try the new Salomon Pulsar...
Hi! Great videos. Will you review the sense ride 5?
Any thoughts on the LONE PEAK 5?
Good shoe otherwise but why Salomon put the lace pocket under the laces, does not make sense. Also in my pair there is a clicking sound in the upper material which is quote annoying.
Have clicking sounds lessened through use? I’ve just got my pair and it seems that I have the same issue!
@@tatsianabobko7231 I changed to Nike wildhorse and Hoka one torrent. Hopefully the upper material softens in use.
@@KJ-up3sl thanks
Still loving those bwow bwow bwows at the beginning of the reviews...
I rewatch your review on the sense ride 2... and you seemed to like it a lot, and gave a "buy" recommendation in the end. Why do you seem to not like the 2 here?
asking because currently planning to buy either the hoka torrent 2 or the sense ride 2. the sense ride 2 is on discount.. but still at similar price with the torrent 2 (quite weird).
Thought the same, the comment even says that it’s better than the 1. I bought the 2 instead of the 1 on recommendation from that video. That said, I think the 2’s are brilliant shoes, except when they get wet and sound terrible.
Shoulda had a version one handy for video
Super review, thanks a lot!
Hey man, love your reviews!! Question… never run in trail just street. I run with hoka one one Mach 4. Which trail shoe can you recommend me to try for my first trail run?? Thanks and keep up the great videos!!
Love it, love it, love it!!!
Thrilled to know Salomon is now owned by Anta of China 🇨🇳
hi Mr Ginger if you could only choose one shoe for walking 28 miles up and down mountains for 14 days what would you pick? as you are the GOAT I would love your thoughts!
Looking to get either a sense ride 4 or pulsar trail. Which would you recommend?
Are people having any issues with the snapping or popping sound that I've seen in reviews? And the upper seems "thicker", are they hot?
I got a pair today and that pop IS SO BAD. It's the rock guard bending against the toe box mesh. I don't know how these passed into production.
What's good with brainfreezes, so painfull! Only run in the Sense Ride 2. I like them alot, but just a few runs in them still. :)
I have the S/Lab Ultra 3 but am doing a few more road kays than expected. Are these babies likely to be better wearing for more road/concrete oriented miles than the Ultra 3s?
For racing 100 miles ultra Sense Ride 4 or Sense Ultra 3? They seem very similar except the price. Why would I spend more when Sense Rides are so good?
This is more of a 50K shoe and I wear my Sense Ride 1s on these type of races. Got to love the 1s. If you only run Salomons, a lot of people choose the S Lab Ultra or Ultra Pro. The Ultra Pro a bit heavy though and S Lab expensive. Just my two cents. Have a great race!
@@edwarddapra7674 The Sense Ride 3 is in my opinion more cushioned than the Ultra Pro... I have both, the SR3 is also a few grams heavier...I was wandering why the Ultra Pro exists actually, as they also fit similarly. I prefer the SR3 for an Ultra, 80K is definitely doable, for 160 I think it depends...
Insole movement is a Salomon trademark since years 🤣
opinion on the salomon sense ride 4 vs saucony peregine 11 vs the latest update ON running cloudventure 3? which is better & why?
Is this gore tex? And good as an everyday snow shoe?
Why no speedcross review? Please do the 5
Good for hiking (occasional snow)?
Started with 2s loved them then bought 3 pairs of 3s hated them felt like i was balancing on the midfoot did not like, and heel slip. NIce they fixed the heel but sole kinda looks the same idk... Got lone peak 5s and their fitment is dogshit compared to my wide feet worst heel design ever and narrow ass midfoot, never had that much heel slip in any shoe. Aiming toward Topos next
How do they go for trail/road running shoes?
I got road running, lots of concrete tracks, not much dirt trails but lots of run over grass or get off the track moments..
Didn't you talk about the squish factor in a previous version of this shoe - did that go away?
What do you recommend from the Salomon range for running on road and some basic trails?
For me, the Sense Ride transitions well from trail to the occasional road. But it's a trail running shoe.
Waiting for the GR Salomon Ultra Glide...
(The wait is killing us 👴🏻)
Does this bring the SR4 closer to the Sense 4 Pro? I skipped the SR3 because of how super heavy it was.
I have been using the Cascadia by Brooks for years. I am curious if this would be something a bit more grippy without being a true hiking shoe as I sometimes do trail and pavement runs which I can get away with the cascadias.
The foot feel is similar on both. The Cascadia has more padding.
I bought these because the Cascadia 16 has an annoying toe guard bend, and this shoe has the same damn thing, but with a popping sound. The fit and lugs are similar, the padding in these feels cheaper. I'm frustrated with Brooks and Salomon both at this point.
Solomon has always been to narrow for me so havent tried solomon for several years. Anyone know if they have a wide offering in their shoes now?
They need a zero drop shoe! Or at least very little 4 or less.
This one is 8mm
Hello Ethan, I know you liked the Sense Pro 4. Do you prefer the Pro 4 (which you described as a scalpel) or the Ride 4 for 10 miles or less?
Pro 4 are faster for sure. But I personally wouldn’t run with them any further than a marathon.
so I am gonna assume, true to size ?? try leaning buy..., maybe.., this or speedgoat ?? I will watch your speedgoat video .., hmmm 🤔
Great sharing
It’s a little bit of a sad legacy for a shoe if we need to judge it’s progress by how well it compares to the first version.
I'm new to trail running looking to get my first shoe that is versatile. I will use it to supplement marathon training, going on trails for 1.5 - 3 hours once or twice a week .I have tried on both the Torrent 2 and Sense Ride 4 and can't decide. Anyone have any input?
I used both the sense ride 3 and torrent 1, about 600km-1000km in each. I like both, but was finding the torrents to cause more ankle rolls, the midsole became soft quickly, and the laces are terrible! I was taking out the sense ride for speedier and more technical trail, while the torrents were being used for more linear and casual runs. Wear on the lugs was about the same for both shoes.
My advice is to be honest with the types of terrain you'll be trail running on. Also, depending on what heel drops you like. For example, I have this shoe and a couple saucony trail runners, including the peregrine 10. I love that 4-5 mm heel drop and at times this shoe can feel like you're running in a high heel. Especially on flats. In addition, if I know I'm going to be out for that amount of time on a lot of roots and rocks, I'm going with the peregrine every time. The woven rock "plate" is fantastic and still gives really good ground feel. The grip in the peregrine is also tremendous in every condotion. So it inspires that confidence to really move through technical terrain. If there's a lot of flat, buffed out stuff, I'm probably reaching for these. Not to say you can't run the compact flat stuff in the peregrine's, but the "feel" is just more comfortable in the sense ride while still being plenty of a trail shoe to tackle tough sections. If it's mostly tough sections, I'm still taking the peregrine. Good luck!
@@robertmorano2372 Thanks! The peregrines were the 3rd shoe that the employee gave me to try on, just weren't as comfortable for my foot shape. Will be running on gravel roads and single track
@@runnerwatch2280 Cheers, will take it into consideration. I agree the laces are pretty average :/
@@samlissaman3734 the sense ride 4 is a good shoe. It took me some miles to get them figured out, but I'd say my biggest gripe (and I know it's personal) is the 8mm drop. That and when I bought it, I thought it might be a little more cushioned. I wanted it to be a long run, comfy protective thing for the trails because the peregrine is more of an "attack" the terrain fast day shoe. With enough underfoot protection to just move. The sense ride is still good, just not what I bought it for and the fit is not great on my foot. But again, personal. I did switch out the insole from a pair of old road running shoes and the fit is much better. I'm slowly getting along with them and I live a mile from a ton of great forrest trails, so I do love to have something in the rotation that's decent on pavement with plenty of grip for the woods and the sense ride fits that bill nicely. I will say, the grip is great in everything I've had them in. If you like the fit and the 8mm drop, you can't go far wrong with them. Good luck!
The insole thing is inexcusable.
Can you use anything to get the insole to stop moving around?
Use a glue gun
Anyone else felt they run 1/2 size longer than the 3?