Wow the joys of being overconfident ..... from yer pre match talk, you won the game before a ball was kicked, to this.... never underestimate what's on front of ya. Thanks guys UTG!
Must be about the 7th game this season where we've dropped points due to the same issues, namely we can't hit a Barn door and our defence is like a sieve. I actually enjoyed the match though thought it was a good spectacle. Even if we miss out on the play offs I'd keep Clarke as he can't be blamed for individual errors.
If you don’t convert your chances you put pressure on the defence, if you keep conceding stupid goals then you put pressure on your strikers, a bit chicken and egg for which you sort out. This game shows why we won’t finish in the top two, we keep making the same mistakes. We do have more than enough to get in the play offs, that is where need to make sure we are and need to peak then.
Dont want to single out players, but Connell looks a shadow of the player he can be. Dont know why? But for me Nwakali is much the better choice for starting. He's a class above any other player we've got.
Jo, I agree with you. The three centre backs are not quick enough for this formation and therefore we are exposed to the counter if we lose the ball. Connell is not the fastest either so he struggles to provide cover. If there is enough quality in the attack we score goals and kill the game. We chased the ball and burnt ourselves out after 60 minutes. We cannot play high press for 90 minutes, so when we do we must score, otherwise we need a plan B.
This is how I see the problem here. There is complacency in the camp resulting from arrogance. Many of those players think they are better than what they are. They turn up & we get on top and we think this is easy. Let's all go up & score a goal. We don't score goals but wear ourselves out trying to get a goal. Then in the second half we conceed and we are too tired to track back when we don't score, or we lose the ball.
Rovers fan here you had a bad day at the office guys you played us off the park to be honest but you get bugger all if you can’t score you-won’t be far off come May Darrell Clarke is a legend👍
Saturday was a missed opportunity to close the gap on the top. And it gives the teams below us hope that they can make the top6. The best thing we can say is that we are consistent. We missed too many good chances and we conceded too many softish goals. It's been the story of our season. It's going to be difficult to find a quality striker. Clubs don't want to lose players in January unless they can get good money. And I don't think we have the money to make a statement signing. That means we are looking at League 2 and the National league for a promising young striker. Will they help us this season? Maybe. Or a Loan signing. They have been hit or miss for us. Watters and Humphries are League 1 strikers because they are not prolific goal scorers. Their records this season are almost identical this season with 4 goals and 700 odd minutes played. The club decided we wanted to play a 3 - 5 - 2 formation and then have bought the wrong players, particularly at the back to make the best use of the system. Our central defenders lack pace not only over 10 - 20 metres but also that initial 2 -3 metres. How many times has an opposition striker got goal side of our defenders in our box for clear strikes and headers on goal. The first goal on Saturday a perfect example. We have conceded 8 - 15 goals too many this season. If we want to finish higher than 5th we need to shore up our defence. I think we should change formation to 4 -2 - 3 - 1. I think the players we have are better suited to this set up. We should be harder to score against, and we still have the opportunity to move forward with numbers as we have this season but we have more cover in the middle of the park to defend counter attacks. I know it's a risk to change formations half way through the season but we have to find a better way. We have a high ceiling and a low floor in our results. We have to raise our floor for more consistent results. And I think the best way to do that is to reduce the number of goals we concede. I think a vocal goalkeeper might help with organisation a the back too. We seem to be a quiet side. Not a lot of talking. I'm watching the games on IFollow. Can you hear the players talking at Oakwell, Alan?? O'Keefe, any combination of MDG, Roberts, Pines or Earl, MDG and Earl would be my first choice, Gent or Farrugia Kelechi and Connell Phillips, Russell, DKD Watters Humphries and Farrugia can play wide left in this formation too
I think Clark is in a difficult position now because the fans are not happy because the players let us down. If he makes changes, which he should, and it don't work, he's going to get the blame for players not doing the basics.
Regarding the wing backs. Bombing forward, which is their requirement, the job is a lot easier to do when you've got Thomas, Anderson and Kitching minding things at the back. We haven't... I've never been too bothered about stats...Nine shots on targets is totally misleading, when most of them are tapped straight to the keeper...Most of Max's one on one's, he seems to put the ball low to the keepers left. Opposition teams will have worked this out in the same way that we do with other sides. His all round play had improved considerably and he deserves credit for that. Let's hope that a couple if goals will give him some confidence, as although at the moment he doesn't look like scoring, the positions he gets into, i could still see him going on a run, IF he can free himself from what appears to be a fear of not scoring, in those positions...To be honest, im more frustrated by the lack of key signings than yesterday's result... Days like Bristol will happen from time to time, unless our issue's are addressed...At the moment, I'm not confident that they will be
Eee my giddy aunt it's the old adage of if we don't take our chances then you live to regret them and sadly it isn't the first time it has happened to us this season I won't single players out for mistakes as they know where they went wrong we have to dust ourselves down and start again and Alan is right about the positives out of the game
If you look at Darrell Clarke's track history - his teams always start slow and gain momentum in the second half of the season. you guys will be up there
Love listening to how rattled Alan gets. Exactly why you’ll be playing us again next season. No clinical striker in your side and that defence is nowhere near good enough to go up
Tell you what lads. Yesterday was the best I’ve ever seen us play at Bristol Rovers. We had so much possession and chances it was unreal. Goals win games. If you take your chances, that dwarfs any of our other problems. I can’t understand Watters mentality. He’s scored a couple of goals, is first choice, but still looks lacking confidence.
TBH lads… i was ready for throwing the tv through the window after that performance….however after calming myself down and rewatching the highlights i thought we were great offensively and created chance after chance which is a massive plus, but we have to convert these simple chances, had we done and it would have been a cricket score, i think the defence might have got more exposed with us opening up chasing the game, still think we need a commanding CB aswell as a couple of strikers… here’s hoping 🤞 🤞🤞
Massive over reaction once again to a defeat. When we loose, we are absolutely useless apparently. Good teams bounce back, like when Leyton Orient gave us a big spanking, what happened next. Oh yes. 4 straight wins and 12 points. We all need to calm down. BARNSLEY needs simply to brush themselves down, put it to bed and get ready for Stevenage and sure we can go on another good run. We have the players and we’ve got the talent to finish in the top 6. Got to agree with some of the comments on here regarding our strikers, they are not prolific enough, apart from Dunn, I’m not confident anyone will hit double figures. You need 2 strikers in double figures really, if you are been realistic about the top 2. Doubt that will happen. But playoffs no doubt will be here for a third consecutive season.in the transfer window. I’m not sure if we have the funds for a 20 goal a season striker. Might need to be a loan signing from the premiership or championship. A player whose had a recent injury and needs game time. Top show once again lads on Red all over. Great to see Tom on the show. Made some excellent points. YOU REDS!
There's a danger of a massive overreaction in the aftermath of a defeat.I think there has been some good considered analysis from Gas fans. I agree with Denzil,who points out the weakness of the back 3 at the moment. I was worried when I saw the line up yesterday, our formation was 3-3-3-1,with Max as the lone striker,Connell the defensive midfielder, and 3 number 10s. We lost the game because we let in 3 poor goals,not missed a load of chances. We seem more secure when there are 2 holding midfielders and the back 3 stay deep and don't push up too far.. Congrats to the Gas,they are fighting to stay in the division, so 3 points was most welcome from Dr Barnsley. The season is going well and you can see how the long term plan is working, patience is required. Although it would make for bland podcasts😂😅. Have a great week everyone 😊
Score early goals allows the midfield to drop back 5/10 yards to help the defence out if they try and get a goal back this will give the front men more room to try and improve the score. So put away the chances would see a totally score line
If he plays Nwakali instead of Connell who is the anchor in midfield because Nwakali needs to go forward in the attack in my opinion & Russell is better going forward.
I'll be honest, I can't see how after the Crawley game (granted they weren't great) that he can justify bringing Connell back in. I like Connell, but he plays the ball backwards and sideways, where Nwakali plays the ball forward! It's quite simple really. We've got better through the season so fair play to Clarke and to bee fair played well yesterday for a lot of the time, but Nwakali must be scratching his head.
@@alansmith6492 I think going into the season, it was probably the right call. Or possible MDG. But maybe not so much now. We didn't know how much Robbo would play either, but he's done ok Robbo I think.
Not sure why he didn’t keep the same side we were weaker against Crawley when we brought on Robert’s and changed it… these had pace and Robert’s hasn’t got pace we all know that plus he’s not fit … Connell didn’t deserve to play nwakwali had to start
From the highlights I would say the Rovers keeper was the man of the match, as an Os fan I bet that Sotiriou could play against you every week having scored in his last 3 league games against you.
At least we should have a good pitch .. oakwell creating its own northern lights around barnsley with lights on this week .. we desperate for a striker but when we conceding goals at a rate we are it's not the only issue .. should have left team how it was and make them earn their place .. Big don loves defending and can score a goal theres a mistake in him but can't see why he didn't start .. strange subs poor team selection and board that are doing nothing to help anyone.. Great show BTW
We had enough chances to win 3 games we had 2 goals disallowed first 1 thought it was harsh it was disallowed can't just blame watters for missing all the chances he did put 1 in which was disallowed but the misses from Russell and Humphreys were also bad think we could have played till midnight and we would not have scored a 2nd
Unfortunately Watters is no finisher and is presented with plenty of chances only not to finish them off. The one he got against Crawley was not a clear cut finish. I'm afraid he's not good enough if scoring goals is a strikers criteria.
No ambition in this club selling any decent players and being very poor players in hoping to improve them to sell them on again transfer window open no evidence of trying to better the team going nowhere
If Watters is our best option it shows how bad things are. We need to move Watters and Cosgrove on. Both not league one quality. Watters was poor on loan so who's idea was it to sign him Football wise it's entertaining and better than last season. But we've a missed opportunity by not securing the striker we needed pre season. We could have been challenging for top two
gas here we were lucky not to be 3 0 down. you are certs for promotion under dc.good luck for the rest of the season. one point why are the pubs near your ground banning away fans it was such a friendly place.
Wow the joys of being overconfident ..... from yer pre match talk, you won the game before a ball was kicked, to this.... never underestimate what's on front of ya. Thanks guys UTG!
Enjoy as it was your only win on a Saturday since August...
@alansmith6492 🤣 really... think we won our last game, Cambridge, in transition with our new manager
@@gasghs I meant at your stadium....
@alansmith6492 Oct 22nd Shrewsbury then last home win in league, but with Matt taylor manager not surprising
@@alansmith6492 need to check yer facts before 🤣
Lisa's husband, Andy here. We have some good players BUT we are trying to play Man. City in league one. It won't work in my opinion. 👍
Must be about the 7th game this season where we've dropped points due to the same issues, namely we can't hit a Barn door and our defence is like a sieve.
I actually enjoyed the match though thought it was a good spectacle. Even if we miss out on the play offs I'd keep Clarke as he can't be blamed for individual errors.
Luca has to stop dwelling on the ball, it's not the first time he's lost the ball and we've conceded!
If you don’t convert your chances you put pressure on the defence, if you keep conceding stupid goals then you put pressure on your strikers, a bit chicken and egg for which you sort out.
This game shows why we won’t finish in the top two, we keep making the same mistakes. We do have more than enough to get in the play offs, that is where need to make sure we are and need to peak then.
Rather play like we did yesterday then last season, much more entertaining to watch. We should have won yesterday with all the chances we created.
Dont want to single out players, but Connell looks a shadow of the player he can be. Dont know why? But for me Nwakali is much the better choice for starting. He's a class above any other player we've got.
Baffled from Barnsley...?
I agree, Connell as Been poor and he needs to earn the shirt but starts soon as he’s fit … nwakali the more he plays the better he will be
Jo, I agree with you. The three centre backs are not quick enough for this formation and therefore we are exposed to the counter if we lose the ball. Connell is not the fastest either so he struggles to provide cover. If there is enough quality in the attack we score goals and kill the game. We chased the ball and burnt ourselves out after 60 minutes. We cannot play high press for 90 minutes, so when we do we must score, otherwise we need a plan B.
This is how I see the problem here. There is complacency in the camp resulting from arrogance. Many of those players think they are better than what they are. They turn up & we get on top and we think this is easy. Let's all go up & score a goal. We don't score goals but wear ourselves out trying to get a goal. Then in the second half we conceed and we are too tired to track back when we don't score, or we lose the ball.
Rovers fan here you had a bad day at the office guys you played us off the park to be honest but you get bugger all if you can’t score you-won’t be far off come May Darrell Clarke is a legend👍
We needed some Leg Ends to put the ball past Josh Griffiths 😅 good luck for the rest of the season Phil
Saturday was a missed opportunity to close the gap on the top. And it gives the teams below us hope that they can make the top6. The best thing we can say is that we are consistent. We missed too many good chances and we conceded too many softish goals. It's been the story of our season. It's going to be difficult to find a quality striker. Clubs don't want to lose players in January unless they can get good money. And I don't think we have the money to make a statement signing. That means we are looking at League 2 and the National league for a promising young striker. Will they help us this season? Maybe. Or a Loan signing. They have been hit or miss for us.
Watters and Humphries are League 1 strikers because they are not prolific goal scorers. Their records this season are almost identical this season with 4 goals and 700 odd minutes played.
The club decided we wanted to play a 3 - 5 - 2 formation and then have bought the wrong players, particularly at the back to make the best use of the system. Our central defenders lack pace not only over 10 - 20 metres but also that initial 2 -3 metres. How many times has an opposition striker got goal side of our defenders in our box for clear strikes and headers on goal. The first goal on Saturday a perfect example. We have conceded 8 - 15 goals too many this season. If we want to finish higher than 5th we need to shore up our defence.
I think we should change formation to 4 -2 - 3 - 1. I think the players we have are better suited to this set up. We should be harder to score against, and we still have the opportunity to move forward with numbers as we have this season but we have more cover in the middle of the park to defend counter attacks. I know it's a risk to change formations half way through the season but we have to find a better way. We have a high ceiling and a low floor in our results. We have to raise our floor for more consistent results. And I think the best way to do that is to reduce the number of goals we concede. I think a vocal goalkeeper might help with organisation a the back too. We seem to be a quiet side. Not a lot of talking. I'm watching the games on IFollow. Can you hear the players talking at Oakwell, Alan??
O'Keefe, any combination of MDG, Roberts, Pines or Earl, MDG and Earl would be my first choice, Gent or Farrugia
Kelechi and Connell
Phillips, Russell, DKD
Watters
Humphries and Farrugia can play wide left in this formation too
I think Clark is in a difficult position now because the fans are not happy because the players let us down. If he makes changes, which he should, and it don't work, he's going to get the blame for players not doing the basics.
Regarding the wing backs. Bombing forward, which is their requirement, the job is a lot easier to do when you've got Thomas, Anderson and Kitching minding things at the back. We haven't... I've never been too bothered about stats...Nine shots on targets is totally misleading, when most of them are tapped straight to the keeper...Most of Max's one on one's, he seems to put the ball low to the keepers left. Opposition teams will have worked this out in the same way that we do with other sides. His all round play had improved considerably and he deserves credit for that. Let's hope that a couple if goals will give him some confidence, as although at the moment he doesn't look like scoring, the positions he gets into, i could still see him going on a run, IF he can free himself from what appears to be a fear of not scoring, in those positions...To be honest, im more frustrated by the lack of key signings than yesterday's result... Days like Bristol will happen from time to time, unless our issue's are addressed...At the moment, I'm not confident that they will be
Watters is struggling with confidence, but I would sooner have him up front than Cosgrove, he offers almost nothing!
@HappyTyke25 It's all there apart from the end product... Definitely one to work on rather than write off.
Eee my giddy aunt it's the old adage of if we don't take our chances then you live to regret them and sadly it isn't the first time it has happened to us this season I won't single players out for mistakes as they know where they went wrong we have to dust ourselves down and start again and Alan is right about the positives out of the game
If you look at Darrell Clarke's track history - his teams always start slow and gain momentum in the second half of the season. you guys will be up there
Love listening to how rattled Alan gets. Exactly why you’ll be playing us again next season. No clinical striker in your side and that defence is nowhere near good enough to go up
And I'd not taken my blood pressure tablets...😅
I sadly agree and I think most sensible Reds fans would too
Tell you what lads. Yesterday was the best I’ve ever seen us play at Bristol Rovers. We had so much possession and chances it was unreal.
Goals win games. If you take your chances, that dwarfs any of our other problems.
I can’t understand Watters mentality. He’s scored a couple of goals, is first choice, but still looks lacking confidence.
TBH lads… i was ready for throwing the tv through the window after that performance….however after calming myself down and rewatching the highlights i thought we were great offensively and created chance after chance which is a massive plus, but we have to convert these simple chances, had we done and it would have been a cricket score, i think the defence might have got more exposed with us opening up chasing the game, still think we need a commanding CB aswell as a couple of strikers… here’s hoping 🤞 🤞🤞
Massive over reaction once again to a defeat. When we loose, we are absolutely useless apparently. Good teams bounce back, like when Leyton Orient gave us a big spanking, what happened next. Oh yes. 4 straight wins and 12 points. We all need to calm down. BARNSLEY needs simply to brush themselves down, put it to bed and get ready for Stevenage and sure we can go on another good run. We have the players and we’ve got the talent to finish in the top 6. Got to agree with some of the comments on here regarding our strikers, they are not prolific enough, apart from Dunn, I’m not confident anyone will hit double figures. You need 2 strikers in double figures really, if you are been realistic about the top 2. Doubt that will happen. But playoffs no doubt will be here for a third consecutive season.in the transfer window. I’m not sure if we have the funds for a 20 goal a season striker. Might need to be a loan signing from the premiership or championship. A player whose had a recent injury and needs game time. Top show once again lads on Red all over. Great to see Tom on the show. Made some excellent points. YOU REDS!
There's a danger of a massive overreaction in the aftermath of a defeat.I think there has been some good considered analysis from Gas fans. I agree with Denzil,who points out the weakness of the back 3 at the moment.
I was worried when I saw the line up yesterday, our formation was 3-3-3-1,with Max as the lone striker,Connell the defensive midfielder, and 3 number 10s. We lost the game because we let in 3 poor goals,not missed a load of chances. We seem more secure when there are 2 holding midfielders and the back 3 stay deep and don't push up too far..
Congrats to the Gas,they are fighting to stay in the division, so 3 points was most welcome from Dr Barnsley.
The season is going well and you can see how the long term plan is working, patience is required. Although it would make for bland podcasts😂😅.
Have a great week everyone 😊
Score early goals allows the midfield to drop back 5/10 yards to help the defence out if they try and get a goal back this will give the front men more room to try and improve the score. So put away the chances would see a totally score line
If he plays Nwakali instead of Connell who is the anchor in midfield because Nwakali needs to go forward in the attack in my opinion & Russell is better going forward.
I'll be honest, I can't see how after the Crawley game (granted they weren't great) that he can justify bringing Connell back in. I like Connell, but he plays the ball backwards and sideways, where Nwakali plays the ball forward! It's quite simple really.
We've got better through the season so fair play to Clarke and to bee fair played well yesterday for a lot of the time, but Nwakali must be scratching his head.
Kelechi offers something different, and his passing rate is up at around 86%
@alansmith6492 I know. How can we see this but he gets dropped? Presume it's just due to Connell being captain
@tyke-sl8bs not a fan of him being Skipper
@@alansmith6492 I think going into the season, it was probably the right call. Or possible MDG. But maybe not so much now. We didn't know how much Robbo would play either, but he's done ok Robbo I think.
Not sure why he didn’t keep the same side we were weaker against Crawley when we brought on Robert’s and changed it… these had pace and Robert’s hasn’t got pace we all know that plus he’s not fit … Connell didn’t deserve to play nwakwali had to start
From the highlights I would say the Rovers keeper was the man of the match, as an Os fan I bet that Sotiriou could play against you every week having scored in his last 3 league games against you.
Reds 1 Stevenage 0.
At least we should have a good pitch .. oakwell creating its own northern lights around barnsley with lights on this week .. we desperate for a striker but when we conceding goals at a rate we are it's not the only issue .. should have left team how it was and make them earn their place .. Big don loves defending and can score a goal theres a mistake in him but can't see why he didn't start .. strange subs poor team selection and board that are doing nothing to help anyone..
Great show BTW
Big Kev says 2-1 Reds and I agree with him. Caleb says 3-1. Youuu Redsss! 😊
We had enough chances to win 3 games we had 2 goals disallowed first 1 thought it was harsh it was disallowed can't just blame watters for missing all the chances he did put 1 in which was disallowed but the misses from Russell and Humphreys were also bad think we could have played till midnight and we would not have scored a 2nd
Unfortunately Watters is no finisher and is presented with plenty of chances only not to finish them off. The one he got against Crawley was not a clear cut finish. I'm afraid he's not good enough if scoring goals is a strikers criteria.
Different
No ambition in this club selling any decent players and being very poor players in hoping to improve them to sell them on again transfer window open no evidence of trying to better the team going nowhere
Well well well
And Oakwell
need to stop persisting with watters and cosgrove, time to let them go
Last season, Neil Collins froze Watters out, good workrate but poor in front of goal..
@@mattcole8248 I think Watters is one of those players who, when he moves on will score a bag full of goals but for somebody else.
Who are you playing instead of them?
@@thomaswebster5982 ideally new strikers
get connel out he is a liability
If Watters is our best option it shows how bad things are. We need to move Watters and Cosgrove on. Both not league one quality. Watters was poor on loan so who's idea was it to sign him
Football wise it's entertaining and better than last season. But we've a missed opportunity by not securing the striker we needed pre season. We could have been challenging for top two
Big 12 days to come before the window closes
gas here we were lucky not to be 3 0 down. you are certs for promotion under dc.good luck for the rest of the season. one point why are the pubs near your ground banning away fans it was such a friendly place.
It's down to the Police, we have to stop usually 10 miles away when travelling on away coaches
@@alansmith6492 that’s a shame it was my favourite away ground for a beer with local fans, never ever any trouble great town great people