Really enlightening thanks Rob and Gridiron. This is exactly the kind of stuff long time fans need! Deeper dives into the "X's" and "O's", not just the Jimmys and Joes
Its a shame Plank’s career ended before that 1985 season. I remember watching him and Fencik as a kid. They were some hard hitting safety’s and always fun to watch...
When Rob Ryan was defensive coordinator of the Cowboys, he ran a pretty good version of the Flex defense in the 2yrs he was there & for 2 straight seasons,the Cowboys had a Top 3-5 defense
Rob Ryan does a great job of these scheme breakdowns, the 46 defense was something special and more teams I feel should use that scheme to shut down zone-based running offenses--essentially taking away inside zone runs by default due to their pre-snap alignment while flushing plays outside--similar to a bear front.
That was incredible. I played offense College everyday against a 46. I makes offenses insane if don't have great athletes. Coach Nolan Wittenberg, Taver Johnson Wittenberg, coach Maurer hall of fame. Coach edwards hall of fame. Your Dad was one my favorite coaches. I loved that team. And I'm a browns fan. They brought hope and sweetness to the world when we needed.
No defense in history was more devastating. It's the only one that I look for whenever I play Madden. I used to always blitz the mike linebacker straight over the center. Sometimes my corners would get burned, but as long as I'm already up huge who cares.
Buddy Ryan had a remarkable NFL career even before the Bears w/the Jets & Vikings & then afterwards as HC with the nasty Eagles defense & Randall Cunningham as QB.
@FWFrank Yes. I will always believe that Ryan was fired by the Eagles because the owner was made to feel unwelcome by other other NFL owners due to the Eagles reputation as mean and nasty, especially on defense. Firing Ryan left a vacuum in that division that was filled by the 1991 Redskins SB team & then the Cowboys dynasty. Maybe those things were inevitable but Ryan was an excellent defensive coach.
Easy to overcome now with 4 or 5 wide sets these days, and the West Coast O really evolved as a way to beat the 46. But man, that '85 Bears front 7 was just devastating - Dent, Hampton, mcmichael, Singletary, Otis Wilson, Marshall... Tony Eason is still having nightmares from super bowl XX.
80’s OC’s didn’t know how to beat this defense in the 80’s. Dolphins figured out for a game by going to their slot receivers. But no one else adjusted in time. Then the league changed and it pretty much got left behind. You’re right about Eason. He was done after the first series of that SB.
Absolutely not!!! I coached for close to 20 years in highly competitive Southern California and odd fronts with the right mix of personnel playing man or zone are spread offense killers.
This scheme worked to stop the giants and the 49ers in the 80’s.the bears ran it to perfection but something happened in the off-season of 1987.the amount of penalties thrown for roughing the quarterback because every other play he was picking himself off the field.the bears were no longer dominant the league modified the rules because there wasn’t one offensive coach who could counter it maybe bill walsh but his system was based on quarterbacks feet placement as with joe Montana.therefore that offense needed a few more seconds to where the outside blitz was coming from and with those rule changes that’s all the 49ers needed to counter that 46 defense.I remember that Super Bowl bear team and couldn’t wait next year to see that defense but I notice flags being throw all over the field and their pass rushers scared of running all out fear of getting a late hit penalty.this why buddy ryan is a game changer along with coaches.when you develop a system that the league has to step in a change certain rules you have done something.call it not fair or safety for the game but nonetheless nobody can take away how dominant that bears team played and still to this day the greatest defense team assembled.
The 86 88 Bears allowed fewer points, 86 the Redskins dismantled it scoring 27 in Playoffs; and the Niners in 88. 85 they just had an offense too... McMahon was never healthy; and 85 was Walter's last great season before decline. 86 Giants were #2 defense and decent offense and beat 12-4 Redskins 3 times to go to SB. EVERYONE Gets beat running the same thing every year. Bellichik realized that, was the Giants DCO so they threw all kinds of stuff like going to 4-3 for one game, to dismantle chicago in 1990 Division round.
Coach Ryan, your father's defensive innovations in professional football make him worthy of induction into the Hall of Fame. It is long overdue. The "46" was the most ingenious and dominant tactic ever utilized in the NFL.
This defense is so difficult to block. For me going 12 personnel, with both to the same side with twins opposite. Forcing the corner to be a run fitter to alow the both TEs to go to work in the run game. The Will being wide is good to help deal with that though. But i assume the adjustment to twins wil force him to move maybe. Great stuff coach.
This defense is why I became a coach. I watched every game in 85 and started studying it when I was still in school. I implemented it in my first year as DC and we held the opposition to an avg of 7.5 points per game, had multiple shutouts, including the playoffs, and won 3 of 4 championships in the first 4 years. Never looked back. 19 years later I retired and had used a variation of it every year. We won 6 out of the 8 championships we appeared in and held several teams to negative total yards for the game. It works.
What concepts gave you problems, offensively? Could screens be effective? How often was the safety matched on the slot? Or the backer mismatched in coverage against a good tight end? Any of this? 🤔
@@oursport5889 Hi, good questions. I’ll try to break this down into each question. Offensive Concept Problems: In the 90’s we faced run oriented attacks so we never faced anything that we couldn’t solve in a couple of quick adjustments. In the early 2000’s we faced mostly spread/air raid attacks. At first the 4-wide vs our 3 zone was an issue. We tried running a 3 match but couldn’t find continuity across the back end. We eventually switched to a 2 Read and mixed Cv 0 with a Mike Go or Mike Spy call. We had success with this and we were able to hold teams to around 20 instead of 30-35 points in some cases. Screens Problematic?: No, screens never burned us. We ran a lot of screens ourselves so I believe that it helped keep our defense honest. Like anything else, if someone was out of position, forgot the assignment, etc, something could break for a big gain, but screens were never a concern. Safety vs Slots: So this one was why I transitioned into coaching and gave up my dream to play pro LOL. In college I was a Rover in a 7 Diamond defense, which was a generic Bear type defense. The Rover was a SS/OLB/NB depending on the call. I could not run vertical with a lot of the slots and got burned deep. When I started coaching, I came up with some calls that would help stop this problem with an auto double (Cv 7 for me) which put the FS in an auto double of the slot whenever the SS was matched up with a slot. We always emphasized the CB position and I was lucky to have good to very good players at CB all those years. We never worried about consistent big plays on the outside. We also had a Green call which was a 2 deep look (off the Jahawk adjustment for the Bear defense) with the CB’s M/M and the LB’s and Safeties were in a match zone. The Will could slide out and play tight/under the slot with the safety over the top. This worked because the QB would see the Will but not the safety. Those were really the only calls that we needed. LB vs TE issues?: We never had a TE issue. If they had a big TE, Sam would cover. If they had a Flex, Move or Athletic player at TE, we used Will to cover. Or we just ran our zones where whenever the Sam or Will rushed, the SS filled the area. We ran different personnel throughout the years (3-4, 3-3-5, 4-3, 2-4-5), but the concepts were the same. If we had a problem, we moved players to different positions first and then if that didn’t work, we made a coverage and/or pressure change. The goal was to keep players from learning more than 3 techniques and then be able to utilize their skills in any call. If we couldn’t use the techniques in a call, we abandoned it. The scheme was definitely the Bear, but it looked a lot more like Rex Ryan’s version than either Rob or Buddy’s. We fit the scheme to our players instead of vice versa. Most years I had a NG who looked like a LB or FB type instead of a big bull and those guys were quick and disruptive. Some coaches had said “nah they’re too small, I’d never play him there”. I’m fine with that. I’m not them and they’re not me. We all have to do the best we can with what we have and then believe in ourselves, the players and then the schemes. Things always seem to work best that way. I didn’t mean to write a book, but feel free to ask if something wasn’t clear and I can do my best to explain it better.
Thanks Rob/Gridiron for your great videos. I have a feeling this is not Rob's original channel, but I have a question and I'll ask here anyway: At 0:20 you say you put your best player against the Center because the Center is pre-occupied with the snap. But why? Why not put your best guy against someone else like the Guard? (And how do you define "best"?) It seems like needing to handle a snap is a handicap, so you could afford to put a weaker guy against the Center. Then, maybe that "best" player could put outside leverage on the Guard and kinda push the Guard into the Center, helping that weaker guy match the Center. I guess if that "best" guy is opposite the Center, then they are also in position to guard the A gaps, rather than just one B? Does that have anything to do with it? So... yeah... just wondering why you put that "best" player against the Center instead of against someone else (like a Guard) who isn't "handicapped"? Thanks!
I'm glad the first thing he said was that the defense was invented by his father. His father, Buddy Ryan, made the "46 Defense" famous with 1985 Chicago Bears.
Re: the Jayhawk alignment, instead of moving the Will backer and leaving the C gap open why not keep the Will in the C playing the TE man and move the Mike backer over the NT to create a 7 Diamond front responsible for RB or low hole crossovers?
We ran something like this in high school. Only real weakness is if the linebackers aren't great defenders and the other team speedy recievers you can get burned on seam routes (at least that was my experience in high school)
it just seemed like some of the players on the bears front 7 could not be blocked with one person you have to have a monster front 4 that takes up the offense line alone which allows the line backers to do what ever they want and come in unblocked and kill people.
What are strong safeties, linemen and linebackers? I’ve never played football and am trying to learn about it because I never understand what’s going on and what announcers are talking about when I watch a game.
4:00 - Why this defense gets shredded nowadays. Corners can't maintain man coverage with the new rules and take a hold or a DPI, the RB either picks up the pressure, or slings to the outside for a quick dumpoff, the receivers block the DS's and you get an easy 6-7 yards. (Even worse if the offense calls a designed screen. Slants kill it too, the ball is gone before the pressure even sniffs the QB
I was forced into coaching ute football. By the old man, I developed this defense based on the 52 defense. I developed a number line system, along with 2 digit, 3 digit codes and stunt codes. And a few whole front alignment codes. As per the number line , we started heads up on center , was Zero, right side is Red , left side was black, Thus zero, R1, R2, R3, R4 , R5 , R6, R7, R8 , R9. B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B7, B8, B9. we would give our Nose Guard and Defensive Tackles through out the game double digit, triple digit and sometimes singular digit alignment codes, we thought our inside line backers to react and adjust to the reaction alignments of the interior three. It caused confusion for the opposition Quaterback. I always started left to right code sequence . Let DEF . TACK B7, R6, B4 Nose Guar. B1, ZERO, R1 RIGHT TACK ZERO , B7, R8 LATTER ON I ADDED SINGULAR, DOUBLE DIGIT AND TRIPPLIE DIGIT STUNT CALLS .. I also simplified some align calls such as Eagle , Center was in Zero , the BDT. Was in B4 and RDT was in R5. The inside backers shaded the out side shoulders of their respective Defensive tackles
Spread them out, it has to morph into something else because of like pat mahomes, Wilson, qbs would just spread you out, look what Marino did to it in 85
It won’t work in today’s game with several wide receivers running quick, horizontal routes and a quarterback constantly in shotgun. Plus, today’s rules completely favor the offense, so you can’t jam wide receivers at the line of scrimmage to knock them off of their routes. Bump-and-run coverage is almost non-existent nowadays.
Pressure on the quarterback is essential for defenses to execute. However, today with the NFL protecting quarterbacks so much, I've often thought that a smart defensive coach should have his players just push the offensive linemen into the quarterback and then touch him when he's down to get a sack. Like, make it the focus of the players, and draft players that had the physicality and coachability to do it. This way, you legally hit the quarterback without the penalty. I know that's kind of the linemen's job anyway, but it seems like teams don't coach this technique beyond the established job. They don't build defenses to do this specifically as a scheme where you're basically trapping the quarterback inside a closed pocket. Defenses should make the pocket so tight that the quarterback has no visibility beyond it and no one can see the quarterback. That should be the passive aggressive goal since the players aren't allowed to be just straight forwardly aggressive. I know you'd have to have 4 all-pro linemen on your defense, 3 all-pro linebackers, and at least one all-pro safety. But, it would be interesting to see.
What do you mean man? So touch football isn't the future of the NFL? I thought the future of the NFL was kill the multimillion dollar quarterbacks!@@DownfallHitlerParody
It’s a shame that Rob Ryan never became a head coach like his identical twin brother Rex (Jets and Bills) because he wouldn’t cut his long hair and shave. I’m sure Daddy Buddy got after Rob for being such a maverick.
As a person who grew up in Chicago, I definitely have a soft spot in my heart for the 46 Defense. But it’s not practical In today’s NFL. The rule changes protecting quarterbacks and receivers, and the modern passing offenses with all the crazy formations make it vulnerable to big plays. Plus, nobody can accumulate players like the ‘85 Bears did in the free agency/salary cap era. It’s kind of like the Triangle Offense in basketball. Great while it lasted, but not practical today.
Yes, and they set a record for fewest points allowed in 14 game season, not even allowing 10 points a game. Next year in 1978, with scoring down in 1977, the NFL changed the rules allowing no contact of receivers after 5 yards, and in a couple of years, league scoring jumped, if I remember, about 6-7 points a game.
Maybe in a computer game.... Seth Joyner feels differently. Check out his comment at 4:55 th-cam.com/video/7V-AZIKwkc0/w-d-xo.html "The way you beat a 'finesse team' is you hit em' in the mouth."
Im no coach, but if you didnt have two lockdown type corners and a HoF SS on the field every play, a decent mobile qb with a go route WR option 2/3 plays could eat this scheme alive. Maybe thats why they only do it in the NFL lol.
The problem with the 46 scheme is that the NFL rules have adjusted against the 46 philosophy. The 46 is designed for pressure. It’s about beating up the QB so hard with sacks and knockdowns, he shits his pants and trips on his own feet with every other passing play. With today’s rules, you cannot even touch a QB without drawing a foul. Let alone whiny prima donnas like Brady, Rodgers, Rivers, etc who know how to draw those fouls even better. Compare QB ratings of today, to 1985. A QB rating of 95 meant something back then. Today, the top 15 QBs have that. The formula hasn’t changed, just their handicap. It’s a joke how the NFL has bended their rules for a high passing high octane offense game. At this rate, they’ll take away the sack. Given all that, one has to wonder if Tom Brady REALLY is the goat. Joe Montana is the best QB I’ve ever seen play, in my opinion. And when he played, it wasn’t a foul to touch him half a second after a pass...
Contrary to popular belief, quarterbacks as a whole actually take more sacks than they used to because of how often teams throw the ball now. Jay Cutler’s 2010-12 seasons when the Bears were seemingly giving up tons of pressure every play was an anomaly at the time. It would be normal/mundane now. I think Cutler’s worst season during that time wouldn’t even hit the top 5-10 now The issue with the 46 and how it was ran was that any spread offense was the easiest counter to it
@@DownfallHitlerParody : No, your dad is the idiot who had you after a whiskey bottle and a good-looking cousin. Explains your lack of intelligent follow-through. As far as Brady goes, I’ll stick to my own opinion which I’ve already stated in my original post.
Which is what Shula figured out, when the Bears lost their one game in 1985. Plus he had Dan Marino with a quick release, they ran a lot of quick 3 step passes, then to add to the Bears nightmare Duper and Clayton were slippery fast receivers. You have to have the ABSOLUTE best athletes which the bear's had on their front 7, oh and your corners are constantly on an island
So did the Tampa Bay Bucs a few weeks earlier. It was close until about 4 minutes left in the final quarter. Highly likely that the Dolphins watched footage from that game which led to Chicago's only loss.
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This is my favorite defense
Really enlightening thanks Rob and Gridiron. This is exactly the kind of stuff long time fans need! Deeper dives into the "X's" and "O's", not just the Jimmys and Joes
It's great to know that this D was named after the SS. I'd bet MOST fans never knew that.
Bears fans did
And Bear fans know Plank was a holdover from the lean years and was the true hard hitting heart of that team!
I hope the Bears gave Plank a ring even though he wasn’t on the 85 team
Its a shame Plank’s career ended before that 1985 season. I remember watching him and Fencik as a kid. They were some hard hitting safety’s and always fun to watch...
I'll be honest, I didn't know.....I thought it was the alignment, LOL.
When Rob Ryan was defensive coordinator of the Cowboys, he ran a pretty good version of the Flex defense in the 2yrs he was there & for 2 straight seasons,the Cowboys had a Top 3-5 defense
He’s a really good teacher. Love how he broke things down in this video!
Rob Ryan does a great job of these scheme breakdowns, the 46 defense was something special and more teams I feel should use that scheme to shut down zone-based running offenses--essentially taking away inside zone runs by default due to their pre-snap alignment while flushing plays outside--similar to a bear front.
Good to see a journalist actually do research. Miss your reporting on 49ers content, Grant Cohn has gone nuts after the Trey Lance fiasco.
Favorite defense
That was incredible. I played offense College everyday against a 46. I makes offenses insane if don't have great athletes. Coach Nolan Wittenberg, Taver Johnson Wittenberg, coach Maurer hall of fame. Coach edwards hall of fame. Your Dad was one my favorite coaches. I loved that team. And I'm a browns fan. They brought hope and sweetness to the world when we needed.
Best Defense Ever in my opinion Buddy Ryan was a genius for this. In Madden I gave people nightmares with it especially running out of the “speed” set
No defense in history was more devastating. It's the only one that I look for whenever I play Madden. I used to always blitz the mike linebacker straight over the center. Sometimes my corners would get burned, but as long as I'm already up huge who cares.
Rip Madden
Buddy Ryan had a remarkable NFL career even before the Bears w/the Jets & Vikings & then afterwards as HC with the nasty Eagles defense & Randall Cunningham as QB.
Yep His Jets holding the 68 Colts to 7 pts was even bigger than SB 20!!
@FWFrank Yes. I will always believe that Ryan was fired by the Eagles because the owner was made to feel unwelcome by other other NFL owners due to the Eagles reputation as mean and nasty, especially on defense. Firing Ryan left a vacuum in that division that was filled by the 1991 Redskins SB team & then the Cowboys dynasty. Maybe those things were inevitable but Ryan was an excellent defensive coach.
Buddy Ryan was a defensive guru
Easy to overcome now with 4 or 5 wide sets these days, and the West Coast O really evolved as a way to beat the 46. But man, that '85 Bears front 7 was just devastating - Dent, Hampton, mcmichael, Singletary, Otis Wilson, Marshall...
Tony Eason is still having nightmares from super bowl XX.
80’s OC’s didn’t know how to beat this defense in the 80’s. Dolphins figured out for a game by going to their slot receivers. But no one else adjusted in time. Then the league changed and it pretty much got left behind. You’re right about Eason. He was done after the first series of that SB.
The way to work against that is to run a variation of this defense going to quarter or dime personnel.
Absolutely not!!! I coached for close to 20 years in highly competitive Southern California and odd fronts with the right mix of personnel playing man or zone are spread offense killers.
Eason NFL Logo outlined on his back! LOVED seeing Buddy's 46 & Gang Green D's in action...TOTALEE Awesome!
@@hectorrodriquez8785 how’d you get into coaching I would like to try to become a DC
Great video!! 😊💯👍🏽
Thanks Rob.
thanks Rob.. Loved ur dad
Great easy to understand explanation! Perfect!
Such a great explanation. Sitting here thinking about how I can apply this to life!
Great explanation, what made that 85 Bears defense were the players you could have lined them up anyway you wanted and it would have been dominate.
His dad Buddy should be in the HOF just for changing the game the way he did. Great video.
TY so much Rob! To be said : I knew about the 46 name even if leaving in France (but old fan of Mike Singletary)! ;)
Excellent description
Favorite defense of ALL TIME!
great explanation. thank you for the video.
The legendary Buddy Ryan. Rest In Peace OG 🙏🏽 thanks for sharing Coach Rob!!! Had no idea it was named 46 for that reason. 💯🫡
Greatly put I love the Ryan’s style hard nose
Wow, thank you. I was wondering why it was called a 46 defense. This defense is deadly. All Linebackers where the tightend. Brutal.
This scheme worked to stop the giants and the 49ers in the 80’s.the bears ran it to perfection but something happened in the off-season of 1987.the amount of penalties thrown for roughing the quarterback because every other play he was picking himself off the field.the bears were no longer dominant the league modified the rules because there wasn’t one offensive coach who could counter it maybe bill walsh but his system was based on quarterbacks feet placement as with joe Montana.therefore that offense needed a few more seconds to where the outside blitz was coming from and with those rule changes that’s all the 49ers needed to counter that 46 defense.I remember that Super Bowl bear team and couldn’t wait next year to see that defense but I notice flags being throw all over the field and their pass rushers scared of running all out fear of getting a late hit penalty.this why buddy ryan is a game changer along with coaches.when you develop a system that the league has to step in a change certain rules you have done something.call it not fair or safety for the game but nonetheless nobody can take away how dominant that bears team played and still to this day the greatest defense team assembled.
The 86 88 Bears allowed fewer points, 86 the Redskins dismantled it scoring 27 in Playoffs; and the Niners in 88. 85 they just had an offense too... McMahon was never healthy; and 85 was Walter's last great season before decline. 86 Giants were #2 defense and decent offense and beat 12-4 Redskins 3 times to go to SB. EVERYONE Gets beat running the same thing every year. Bellichik realized that, was the Giants DCO so they threw all kinds of stuff like going to 4-3 for one game, to dismantle chicago in 1990 Division round.
Da Marino burnt dat defense up in 85 😂😂😂😂
Coach Ryan, your father's defensive innovations in professional football make him worthy of induction into the Hall of Fame. It is long overdue. The "46" was the most ingenious and dominant tactic ever utilized in the NFL.
This defense is so difficult to block. For me going 12 personnel, with both to the same side with twins opposite. Forcing the corner to be a run fitter to alow the both TEs to go to work in the run game. The Will being wide is good to help deal with that though. But i assume the adjustment to twins wil force him to move maybe. Great stuff coach.
This defense is why I became a coach. I watched every game in 85 and started studying it when I was still in school. I implemented it in my first year as DC and we held the opposition to an avg of 7.5 points per game, had multiple shutouts, including the playoffs, and won 3 of 4 championships in the first 4 years. Never looked back. 19 years later I retired and had used a variation of it every year. We won 6 out of the 8 championships we appeared in and held several teams to negative total yards for the game. It works.
What concepts gave you problems, offensively? Could screens be effective? How often was the safety matched on the slot? Or the backer mismatched in coverage against a good tight end? Any of this? 🤔
@@oursport5889 Hi, good questions. I’ll try to break this down into each question.
Offensive Concept Problems: In the 90’s we faced run oriented attacks so we never faced anything that we couldn’t solve in a couple of quick adjustments. In the early 2000’s we faced mostly spread/air raid attacks. At first the 4-wide vs our 3 zone was an issue. We tried running a 3 match but couldn’t find continuity across the back end. We eventually switched to a 2 Read and mixed Cv 0 with a Mike Go or Mike Spy call. We had success with this and we were able to hold teams to around 20 instead of 30-35 points in some cases.
Screens Problematic?: No, screens never burned us. We ran a lot of screens ourselves so I believe that it helped keep our defense honest. Like anything else, if someone was out of position, forgot the assignment, etc, something could break for a big gain, but screens were never a concern.
Safety vs Slots: So this one was why I transitioned into coaching and gave up my dream to play pro LOL. In college I was a Rover in a 7 Diamond defense, which was a generic Bear type defense. The Rover was a SS/OLB/NB depending on the call. I could not run vertical with a lot of the slots and got burned deep. When I started coaching, I came up with some calls that would help stop this problem with an auto double (Cv 7 for me) which put the FS in an auto double of the slot whenever the SS was matched up with a slot. We always emphasized the CB position and I was lucky to have good to very good players at CB all those years. We never worried about consistent big plays on the outside. We also had a Green call which was a 2 deep look (off the Jahawk adjustment for the Bear defense) with the CB’s M/M and the LB’s and Safeties were in a match zone. The Will could slide out and play tight/under the slot with the safety over the top. This worked because the QB would see the Will but not the safety. Those were really the only calls that we needed.
LB vs TE issues?: We never had a TE issue. If they had a big TE, Sam would cover. If they had a Flex, Move or Athletic player at TE, we used Will to cover. Or we just ran our zones where whenever the Sam or Will rushed, the SS filled the area.
We ran different personnel throughout the years (3-4, 3-3-5, 4-3, 2-4-5), but the concepts were the same. If we had a problem, we moved players to different positions first and then if that didn’t work, we made a coverage and/or pressure change. The goal was to keep players from learning more than 3 techniques and then be able to utilize their skills in any call. If we couldn’t use the techniques in a call, we abandoned it. The scheme was definitely the Bear, but it looked a lot more like Rex Ryan’s version than either Rob or Buddy’s. We fit the scheme to our players instead of vice versa. Most years I had a NG who looked like a LB or FB type instead of a big bull and those guys were quick and disruptive. Some coaches had said “nah they’re too small, I’d never play him there”. I’m fine with that. I’m not them and they’re not me. We all have to do the best we can with what we have and then believe in ourselves, the players and then the schemes. Things always seem to work best that way.
I didn’t mean to write a book, but feel free to ask if something wasn’t clear and I can do my best to explain it better.
wow he sounds and looks exactly like rex with facial hair
Thanks Rob/Gridiron for your great videos. I have a feeling this is not Rob's original channel, but I have a question and I'll ask here anyway:
At 0:20 you say you put your best player against the Center because the Center is pre-occupied with the snap. But why? Why not put your best guy against someone else like the Guard? (And how do you define "best"?)
It seems like needing to handle a snap is a handicap, so you could afford to put a weaker guy against the Center. Then, maybe that "best" player could put outside leverage on the Guard and kinda push the Guard into the Center, helping that weaker guy match the Center.
I guess if that "best" guy is opposite the Center, then they are also in position to guard the A gaps, rather than just one B? Does that have anything to do with it?
So... yeah... just wondering why you put that "best" player against the Center instead of against someone else (like a Guard) who isn't "handicapped"?
Thanks!
I'm glad the first thing he said was that the defense was invented by his father. His father, Buddy Ryan, made the "46 Defense" famous with 1985 Chicago Bears.
The only thing i run on madden. That safety is so versatile.
Best explanation I've ever heard of this classic defense. (Hmmm, I wonder why? 🤔) 😎
Re: the Jayhawk alignment, instead of moving the Will backer and leaving the C gap open why not keep the Will in the C playing the TE man and move the Mike backer over the NT to create a 7 Diamond front responsible for RB or low hole crossovers?
We ran something like this in high school. Only real weakness is if the linebackers aren't great defenders and the other team speedy recievers you can get burned on seam routes (at least that was my experience in high school)
it just seemed like some of the players on the bears front 7 could not be blocked with one person you have to have a monster front 4 that takes up the offense line alone which allows the line backers to do what ever they want and come in unblocked and kill people.
All it took was 1-player to beat his man & then it was a jailbreak...
What are strong safeties, linemen and linebackers? I’ve never played football and am trying to learn about it because I never understand what’s going on and what announcers are talking about when I watch a game.
4:00 - Why this defense gets shredded nowadays. Corners can't maintain man coverage with the new rules and take a hold or a DPI, the RB either picks up the pressure, or slings to the outside for a quick dumpoff, the receivers block the DS's and you get an easy 6-7 yards. (Even worse if the offense calls a designed screen. Slants kill it too, the ball is gone before the pressure even sniffs the QB
No doubt forever great❤
Rob looks like the big brother of The Dude from The Big Lebowski. Other than that, his videos are very informative!
I believe this is one of the reasons offenses run multiple spread formations now because they want to isolate every mumber on defense.
Rob Ryan is a legend Saints did him dirty true whodats know he was one of us
How do you feel about Tite and Mint formations? Do you see them as an successors to Buddy Ryan's offense or something different?
Buddy Ryan first put his best DL an over the center when he was with the Jets, and then Vikings with Alan Page over the center.
To correct Ron Ryan, Doug Plank was the free safety and Gary Fencik was the strong safety. Doug Plank did wear uniform number 46. Fencik wore #45.
I was forced into coaching ute football. By the old man, I developed this defense based on the 52 defense.
I developed a number line system, along with 2 digit, 3 digit codes and stunt codes. And a few whole front alignment codes.
As per the number line , we started heads up on center , was Zero, right side is Red , left side was black,
Thus zero, R1, R2, R3, R4 , R5 , R6, R7, R8 , R9. B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B7, B8, B9.
we would give our Nose Guard and Defensive Tackles through out the game double digit, triple digit and sometimes singular digit alignment codes, we thought our inside line backers to react and adjust to the reaction alignments of the interior three. It caused confusion for the opposition Quaterback.
I always started left to right code sequence .
Let DEF . TACK
B7, R6, B4
Nose Guar.
B1, ZERO, R1
RIGHT TACK
ZERO , B7, R8
LATTER ON I ADDED SINGULAR, DOUBLE DIGIT AND TRIPPLIE DIGIT STUNT CALLS ..
I also simplified some align calls such as Eagle ,
Center was in Zero , the BDT. Was in B4 and RDT was in R5.
The inside backers shaded the out side shoulders of their respective Defensive tackles
Been a big fan of 4-6 didn’t understand it well but it stop the run and good middle coverages
What’s the weakness of the 46 defense?
Spread them out, it has to morph into something else because of like pat mahomes, Wilson, qbs would just spread you out, look what Marino did to it in 85
It won’t work in today’s game with several wide receivers running quick, horizontal routes and a quarterback constantly in shotgun. Plus, today’s rules completely favor the offense, so you can’t jam wide receivers at the line of scrimmage to knock them off of their routes. Bump-and-run coverage is almost non-existent nowadays.
Pressure on the quarterback is essential for defenses to execute. However, today with the NFL protecting quarterbacks so much, I've often thought that a smart defensive coach should have his players just push the offensive linemen into the quarterback and then touch him when he's down to get a sack. Like, make it the focus of the players, and draft players that had the physicality and coachability to do it. This way, you legally hit the quarterback without the penalty. I know that's kind of the linemen's job anyway, but it seems like teams don't coach this technique beyond the established job. They don't build defenses to do this specifically as a scheme where you're basically trapping the quarterback inside a closed pocket. Defenses should make the pocket so tight that the quarterback has no visibility beyond it and no one can see the quarterback. That should be the passive aggressive goal since the players aren't allowed to be just straight forwardly aggressive. I know you'd have to have 4 all-pro linemen on your defense, 3 all-pro linebackers, and at least one all-pro safety. But, it would be interesting to see.
If you think that then you don’t know shit about football 😂
What do you mean man? So touch football isn't the future of the NFL? I thought the future of the NFL was kill the multimillion dollar quarterbacks!@@DownfallHitlerParody
Love 46 defense been using for years in madden! I’m 46 king 👑! Would like to run it in real life as a DC!
It won’t work in today’s game with several wide receivers running quick, horizontal routes and a quarterback constantly in shotgun.
@@johnbrowntheprophet it can you just have to use the other versions of the 46
@@46GanG - What “other versions” are you talking about? 🤔🤷🏻♂️
@@johnbrowntheprophet Nickel Cub Sam Single Majic is one that can do it
@@46GanG - Is that from Madden? 🤔
Rob Ryan looks like he listens to Nickleback.
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It’s a shame that Rob Ryan never became a head coach like his identical twin brother Rex (Jets and Bills) because he wouldn’t cut his long hair and shave. I’m sure Daddy Buddy got after Rob for being such a maverick.
As a person who grew up in Chicago, I definitely have a soft spot in my heart for the 46 Defense. But it’s not practical In today’s NFL. The rule changes protecting quarterbacks and receivers, and the modern passing offenses with all the crazy formations make it vulnerable to big plays. Plus, nobody can accumulate players like the ‘85 Bears did in the free agency/salary cap era.
It’s kind of like the Triangle Offense in basketball. Great while it lasted, but not practical today.
Now some body please show this to the present day Bears.
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great video, really smooth explanation. But these coaches and players are way overpaid
Rob is better version of his brother
The run n’ shoot rendered it obsolete.
I want to see what a Penny Defense look's like 😂
buddy ryan didnt invent the 46 bear, he perfected it. the 77 falcons were the first to use it
Yes, and they set a record for fewest points allowed in 14 game season, not even allowing 10 points a game. Next year in 1978, with scoring down in 1977, the NFL changed the rules allowing no contact of receivers after 5 yards, and in a couple of years, league scoring jumped, if I remember, about 6-7 points a game.
Former Buckeye Doug Plank.
Going 4 or 5 wide blows this D into smithereens
Maybe in a computer game....
Seth Joyner feels differently. Check out his comment at 4:55 th-cam.com/video/7V-AZIKwkc0/w-d-xo.html "The way you beat a 'finesse team' is you hit em' in the mouth."
@@centerfield34 - That’s the problem, though. In today’s NFL, you can no longer hit someone in the mouth.
Had to have great cornors to play this defense.the bears had just that
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Im no coach, but if you didnt have two lockdown type corners and a HoF SS on the field every play, a decent mobile qb with a go route WR option 2/3 plays could eat this scheme alive. Maybe thats why they only do it in the NFL lol.
No.
The 46 would knock the QB out of the game.
Better have good man coverage
The problem with the 46 scheme is that the NFL rules have adjusted against the 46 philosophy.
The 46 is designed for pressure. It’s about beating up the QB so hard with sacks and knockdowns, he shits his pants and trips on his own feet with every other passing play.
With today’s rules, you cannot even touch a QB without drawing a foul. Let alone whiny prima donnas like Brady, Rodgers, Rivers, etc who know how to draw those fouls even better.
Compare QB ratings of today, to 1985.
A QB rating of 95 meant something back then. Today, the top 15 QBs have that.
The formula hasn’t changed, just their handicap. It’s a joke how the NFL has bended their rules for a high passing high octane offense game.
At this rate, they’ll take away the sack.
Given all that, one has to wonder if Tom Brady REALLY is the goat. Joe Montana is the best QB I’ve ever seen play, in my opinion. And when he played, it wasn’t a foul to touch him half a second after a pass...
Contrary to popular belief, quarterbacks as a whole actually take more sacks than they used to because of how often teams throw the ball now. Jay Cutler’s 2010-12 seasons when the Bears were seemingly giving up tons of pressure every play was an anomaly at the time. It would be normal/mundane now. I think Cutler’s worst season during that time wouldn’t even hit the top 5-10 now
The issue with the 46 and how it was ran was that any spread offense was the easiest counter to it
If you doubt Tom Brady is the GOAT, you’re just a hater idiot.
@@DownfallHitlerParody : No, your dad is the idiot who had you after a whiskey bottle and a good-looking cousin.
Explains your lack of intelligent follow-through.
As far as Brady goes, I’ll stick to my own opinion which I’ve already stated in my original post.
@@shimatetsuo2019 You’re an ugly dumbass. That’s why you’re projecting.
@@DownfallHitlerParody : Check your original comment. IDIOT.
Look in the mirror before you sound off your stupidity.
Thanks Coach Rob!
Couldn't you just run with 4 receivers and take advantage of mismatches? You'd end up with a linebacker covering a receiver in man coverage, no?
Which is what Shula figured out, when the Bears lost their one game in 1985. Plus he had Dan Marino with a quick release, they ran a lot of quick 3 step passes, then to add to the Bears nightmare Duper and Clayton were slippery fast receivers. You have to have the ABSOLUTE best athletes which the bear's had on their front 7, oh and your corners are constantly on an island
Which is why he said you can run this defense out of the nickel to adjust for a 4 receiver spread formation.
You can sub the mike for another DB or just switch to a regular nickel defense
Yep I was thinking about the Dolphins game. The one crazy Monday night
I think a couple of teams would shred the 85 bears because of this. They were blitzing both outside line backers.
god I wish I had his knowledge!!!
Dan Marino and the Dolphins exposed this defense on Monday night in 1985 by spreading the defense out with a quick passing attack.
So did the Tampa Bay Bucs a few weeks earlier. It was close until about 4 minutes left in the final quarter. Highly likely that the Dolphins watched footage from that game which led to Chicago's only loss.
So did the 49ers in the 1984 NFC Championship Game. The Bears were never undefeated so let's not act like Miami did anything special that night.
46 doesn’t work anymore. You could maybe do it if your 3 corners are Deion, Revis, Sherman.
You can see why the 46 isn't used much anymore because of the mobile QBs of today's game can beat it with a spread offense.
Why did I think this was a Rex Ryan
Shaun Gayle was a GOOD player, but I thought Todd Bell....then Dave Duerson played that Doug Plank strong safety position.
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Teach that to Vic Fangio because he doesn’t know Jack S&@t
It won’t work in today’s game with several wide receivers running quick, horizontal routes and a quarterback constantly in shotgun.
Gematria was the real reason this 46 was made. Lol.
Cut your hair Rob, get with it and the times
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Makes a lot of sense. I think it's very confusing.
Rob Ryan was a terrible NFL coach. He really was!