Loved the Guncon, even imported Time Crisis from Japan so I could get it ASAP, only annoyance was they should have added recoil to it, maybe even a footpedal. But I was most disapointed with the lack of recoil.
Yeah the lack of recoil is defiantly felt (or not in this case), some of the third party guns have it but those just tend to be more of a rumble and not actually tied to the game input.
@@GouldFishOnGames Yeah, I fell for that a few times, bought guns I thought had recoil, but just rumbled, so it was a good 2 years before an authentic recoil was released. Fun fact: I gave myself a black eye the first time I played Time Crisis in arcades as I didn't know the guns hd recoil and I held it to my eye :P
@@GouldFishOnGames Yeah, quite a kickback. I've seen a few YT channels actually mod arcade guncons to work on the PS1/2 just because of the recoil. I thionk Luke Morse has if you know him? BTW Die Hard Trilogy's Die Hard 2 was amazing for destructiable enviroments, you can litterally destroy everything in a level, individual ceiling tiles!
@@Larry I don't know him, so I'll have to check him out. I was trying to get a few more games to show off the guncon and Die Hard Trilogy 2 was one of those that I was looking up. I'll have to give it a go!
I got a fun story about this. I got this bundle for Christmas, can’t remember what year, but we had a launch-day PlayStation like the bottom one when you showed all three. What you missed is that the earliest models didn’t come with an “AV multi-out” cable to connect to composite TVs. It came with a weird 4-plug boxy thing that connected to all three RCA jack outputs (as well as the 2.4v 2.5mm headphone jack thing, for power). There was no way, on Christmas day, for me to connect the gun to any composite output, because the adapter couldn’t be used at the same time as the RF output box thing. I was so sad haha
Lovely job! A bit of video corruption at 3:24 for a few seconds (or was that my Internet?). That Quest mode on Point Blank looks fun. Lovely vid, it's great seeing real hardware and some lovely footpedal action!
Damn, you are right there is some video corruption. just checked my source file and there is nothing there so youtube must have added it in. Pitty we can't ask them to reprocess it or to update it, as I'd have to take the video down and put it back up. I guess I'm going to have to watch my videos fully on youtube to make sure its not messed it up!
@@GouldFishOnGames It wasn't disruptive as it was for about a second, a few times. I thought it was just one of those things. It's frustrating when what you upload isn't what you view! Great light gun action though!
I loved the Guncon and Point Blank. My house mate at the time had it for his PS1 we had so much fun playing it usually after when we got back from where ever our night out had been.
Time Crisis was one of my fav arcade games as a kid. I asked for this for xmas 1996 or 1997 and got it...waited all weekend to drive back home from family's house to hook it up to my playstation and was soooo excited...and I could never get it to work.
Very interesting. I remember playing Point Blank 1 and 2 on Sony PS1 when I was a kid and I also remember the G-Con controller which was made by a Japanese company Namco (now Bandai Namco Entertainment). I always love that shooting arcade game, Point Blank. I wonder if Bandai Namco should make a compilation of classic Point Blank games for Sony PS4/PS5. Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪
Thanks, happy you enjoyed it. As for a list of the games, I've mostly been going by some Wikipedia lists like this one. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gun_games#Sony_PlayStation It mentioned which lightgun each game supports, but I don't think its complete as I think I've seen some games not mentioned on it. But it should be a good start.
yeah, the yellow connector is double ended, so you can daisy chain it Not sure if it has an impact on the picture quality, as I'd assume each gun connected would reduce the video signal slightly.
I have a couple third party light guns that supported both Playstation and Saturn. I didn't have a whole lot of games that supported them. The House of the Dead got most play. I also really tried at Elemental Gearbolt because it's just so cool ... but I just wasn't good enough to get very far.
thanks man for the info I have that gun but I could never us it because I didn't have a way to connect the second cord to the PS, what is the name of that adapter if you don't mind.
looking online and the official one is called the "scph-1160" there are third party ones and tend to just be called something like Playstation AV cable or box.
Thanks for the video, informative and interesting and I can now say with confidence my old 45 does not work! Thought I was getting the cables wrong but sadly no; something tells me I won't be able to send it to Namco for repairs anymore!
I didn't do anything special for the video. Make sure all the parts are connected (including the yellow cable). you also might want to try changing the brightness and contrast of your TV. oh and try to make sure there isn't a lot of light behind the TV.
It seems youtube messed up the upload as there is a second or so of corruption, the rest of the video is fine. Sorry I didn't catch it before putting it live. After the video you should check out DJ-Slopes great Complete History on Point Blank video, th-cam.com/video/egs3I3PW04Q/w-d-xo.html
Hard to say, double check that you have both the gun connected to the first player port and that you have the yellow cable connected. If they both look good then do you get anything in game? does pressing any of the buttons on the gun do anything on screen? I've not had to trouble shoot a GCon as they have just worked for me, so its possible the gun might be broken.
@@MrJ0mmy That seems very odd, it might be the video cable isn't working right and taking the video to the screen, or the splitter that send a copy of the video to the lightgun and the TV isn't working?
Love the GunCon, it’s definitely a more faithful arcade light gun that real gun replica but that’s what makes it great for a home console controller. Still, would it be sacrilege to add a single point sling attachment & optic to 1? 😄 Excellent video mate, thanks.
No, some of the third party guns did but they typically just made them rumble every time the trigger was pressed. Rather then when you actually fired in game, so it wasn't great.
Hi there! Just bought "Resident Evil Survivor". Shooting doesn't work with the g-con 45. Can make my charakter move, can "adjust the gun" successfully, can switch through the menues etc...But if i wanna shoot, it only does some "lightning" on the screen without shooting bullets. I don't think that is a problem with the gun, because it works perfectly with "Time Crisis"! Any idea? Greetings!
I've not played that game but looking up some info on it: "The Japanese and European versions of the game were compatible with Namco's GunCon/G-Con 45 light gun... light-gun compatibility was removed from the North American release due to shooting" So that might be your issue if you are using the US/NTSC version of the game.
@@GouldFishOnGames No, I play the European version. It does work in the game with opening doors, taking keys, switching through menues, but it doesn't shoot.
@@rocktory.official Then I'm not too sure as I've never played the game. but it does sound like its not detected the lightgun or something. as the fire button is just doing a regular button press. might be worth checking the manual as it might expect it to be in a specific port?
hi, I would have a problem with this guncon, when I connect it it works normally, but when I start playing point blank it doesn't show me the pointer, do you know why it doesn't appear?
I'm not sure, it's possible there are some issues with the PS2 as I've not tried playing it on one. Only time I had a problem was when I didn't have the yellow video cable connected.
Great video. There's 2 Japanese games that were part of the simple 1500 series of games whatever that is called the gun shooting and the gun shooting 2, 2 is good, but the original the gun shooting is by far my favorite guncon lightgun game.
Given how niche the form factor is I'm surprised they keep bringing out new versions of light guns. I guess there much be profit in it. Nice video on this one as usual :)
Peak lightgun was between PS1 and 2, after that it became way more effort to make the hardware. There were a few but it was much less popular. not sure if the next generation will even get a lightgun.
I traded my Time Crisis and Guncon combo with a guy at school for... an Amiga CD-ROM drive! A weird swap but it definitely added a new lease of life to my aging Amiga :)
@@silver_noob7047 To start with I'd use the latest reference drivers. www.philscomputerlab.com/drivers-for-voodoo.html the 3.01.00 set should be good for most games. Running the exe won't install the drivers, just put them in a folder. the next steps are mostly the same its just how you start them. Either Windows detects the new hardware and gives you the driver installer. Or you need to find the device in hardware manager (it will be marked as not working and have a name like Multimedia PCI device). in the installer tell it you have a set of drivers then point it at the folder the exe extracted to. Outside of it asking for the Windows install CD, that would normally be it.
From the limited testing that I did, I found some ps2 games worked with the guncon45 while others needed the gcon 2. you will need that little breakout box that gives you the yellow connector for the gun.
I have the time crisis version back then. The black color and enjoying it very much. Very awesome even to display it and the best part the gun con very accurate compared to other 3rd party ones when playing the time crisis. I even use the gun con until ps2 time crisis 2. In fact it is even better and more reliable than second original guncon2 release. The second release for time crisis 2 is the problem at the trigger it breaks easily.
I tried looking this up as I wasn't sure and got conflicting answers. as some said it would and others wouldn't I also read, it would work for ps1 lightgun games but not for ps2. so I don't have a conclusive answer for you.
Oh yes, bombs 💣, civilians and opponent's colour are forbidden targets 🎯 in Point Blank series. If the players accidentally shoot one of these, they will lose their lives.
Loved the Guncon, even imported Time Crisis from Japan so I could get it ASAP, only annoyance was they should have added recoil to it, maybe even a footpedal. But I was most disapointed with the lack of recoil.
Yeah the lack of recoil is defiantly felt (or not in this case), some of the third party guns have it but those just tend to be more of a rumble and not actually tied to the game input.
@@GouldFishOnGames Yeah, I fell for that a few times, bought guns I thought had recoil, but just rumbled, so it was a good 2 years before an authentic recoil was released.
Fun fact: I gave myself a black eye the first time I played Time Crisis in arcades as I didn't know the guns hd recoil and I held it to my eye :P
@@Larry I've not yet tried a home light gun with good recoil. and ouch! that must have smarted as those things really do move!
@@GouldFishOnGames Yeah, quite a kickback. I've seen a few YT channels actually mod arcade guncons to work on the PS1/2 just because of the recoil. I thionk Luke Morse has if you know him?
BTW Die Hard Trilogy's Die Hard 2 was amazing for destructiable enviroments, you can litterally destroy everything in a level, individual ceiling tiles!
@@Larry I don't know him, so I'll have to check him out.
I was trying to get a few more games to show off the guncon and Die Hard Trilogy 2 was one of those that I was looking up.
I'll have to give it a go!
I got a fun story about this.
I got this bundle for Christmas, can’t remember what year, but we had a launch-day PlayStation like the bottom one when you showed all three.
What you missed is that the earliest models didn’t come with an “AV multi-out” cable to connect to composite TVs. It came with a weird 4-plug boxy thing that connected to all three RCA jack outputs (as well as the 2.4v 2.5mm headphone jack thing, for power).
There was no way, on Christmas day, for me to connect the gun to any composite output, because the adapter couldn’t be used at the same time as the RF output box thing. I was so sad haha
oh wow, I didn't know there was another revision with out a built in RF converter.
I can imagine how much of a pain that must have been!
Lovely job! A bit of video corruption at 3:24 for a few seconds (or was that my Internet?). That Quest mode on Point Blank looks fun.
Lovely vid, it's great seeing real hardware and some lovely footpedal action!
The foot on controller action brought back some memories that’s for sure 😂👍🏻
Damn, you are right there is some video corruption. just checked my source file and there is nothing there so youtube must have added it in.
Pitty we can't ask them to reprocess it or to update it, as I'd have to take the video down and put it back up.
I guess I'm going to have to watch my videos fully on youtube to make sure its not messed it up!
@@GouldFishOnGames It wasn't disruptive as it was for about a second, a few times. I thought it was just one of those things.
It's frustrating when what you upload isn't what you view!
Great light gun action though!
@@WhatHoSnorkers thanks for letting me know, and happy that you enjoyed the video! damn you TH-cam!!
@@GouldFishOnGames Always a pleasure to watch, and I'm a fan of both Point Blank and Time Crisis from the arcade!
I loved the Guncon and Point Blank. My house mate at the time had it for his PS1 we had so much fun playing it usually after when we got back from where ever our night out had been.
Time Crisis was one of my fav arcade games as a kid. I asked for this for xmas 1996 or 1997 and got it...waited all weekend to drive back home from family's house to hook it up to my playstation and was soooo excited...and I could never get it to work.
Very interesting. I remember playing Point Blank 1 and 2 on Sony PS1 when I was a kid and I also remember the G-Con controller which was made by a Japanese company Namco (now Bandai Namco Entertainment). I always love that shooting arcade game, Point Blank.
I wonder if Bandai Namco should make a compilation of classic Point Blank games for Sony PS4/PS5.
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪
Ever tried using GCon 45 on ps3 using Usb to Ps1 adaptor in usb port.. Also using rear gcon 45 cable adaptor to plug on your ps3 av lead
Did you have a list of all Namco and gun games for the ps1 please.. trying to continue my collection..
Great video 📹👍
Thanks, happy you enjoyed it.
As for a list of the games, I've mostly been going by some Wikipedia lists like this one.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gun_games#Sony_PlayStation
It mentioned which lightgun each game supports, but I don't think its complete as I think I've seen some games not mentioned on it. But it should be a good start.
Great video! So how do you plug in a second gun to the video cable, just daisy chain them together?
yeah, the yellow connector is double ended, so you can daisy chain it
Not sure if it has an impact on the picture quality, as I'd assume each gun connected would reduce the video signal slightly.
@@GouldFishOnGames I'll have to give it a go once i can wrangle up a second gun, two player point blank seems like a riot!
I have a couple third party light guns that supported both Playstation and Saturn. I didn't have a whole lot of games that supported them. The House of the Dead got most play. I also really tried at Elemental Gearbolt because it's just so cool ... but I just wasn't good enough to get very far.
Can you attach the yellow connector to a scart plug with composite cables or does it only work when hooked up to the Playstation video out?
As far as I'm aware it just needs the composite video from the console, where it gets it from it doesn't care.
Awesome presentation 👌🏻
It would be nice to see a new version of Point Blank and Time Crisis on modern hardware. Even if they decide to make them VR games.
It's a shame that we can't emulate these games properly these days
All three point-blank games are my favorite. What more do you need? ;)
thanks man for the info I have that gun but I could never us it because I didn't have a way to connect the second cord to the PS, what is the name of that adapter if you don't mind.
looking online and the official one is called the "scph-1160"
there are third party ones and tend to just be called something like Playstation AV cable or box.
Hello.does it works to a FHD tv from 2012?Nice video!!!
Thanks, typically unless its an old style CRT TV then it won't work.
@@GouldFishOnGames thank you for your answer!👌👍🙂
Thanks for the video, informative and interesting and I can now say with confidence my old 45 does not work! Thought I was getting the cables wrong but sadly no; something tells me I won't be able to send it to Namco for repairs anymore!
Happy that I could help, but it sucks that your GCon45 doesn't work. Hopefully you can find a replacement for a reasonable price!
PS1 probably had the most light gun games, all good fun. 👍
Its the main reason I have a PS1, I wasn't a big fan of its general library or controller.
but as a lightgun machine it's hard to beat.
@@GouldFishOnGames Can't argue there.
I have the same crt tv as you but my guncon wont work how did you get it working?
I didn't do anything special for the video.
Make sure all the parts are connected (including the yellow cable).
you also might want to try changing the brightness and contrast of your TV.
oh and try to make sure there isn't a lot of light behind the TV.
Hi, i need help to find this extra connector for my gun. Please send link or name
the official box was called "scph-1160", but anything that provides a composite out for it to use should work.
Didn’t the Gcon had a laser pointer in it? I remember playing with my cat… or was ist gcon2?
Neither my Gcon or my Gcon2 had a laser pointer, so it might have been a third party gun.
or possibly a add on?
@@GouldFishOnGames hmmm good question. But thank for your quick response.
It seems youtube messed up the upload as there is a second or so of corruption, the rest of the video is fine.
Sorry I didn't catch it before putting it live.
After the video you should check out DJ-Slopes great Complete History on Point Blank video, th-cam.com/video/egs3I3PW04Q/w-d-xo.html
hi i connected mine but its not working with my crt tv why?
Hard to say, double check that you have both the gun connected to the first player port and that you have the yellow cable connected.
If they both look good then do you get anything in game?
does pressing any of the buttons on the gun do anything on screen?
I've not had to trouble shoot a GCon as they have just worked for me, so its possible the gun might be broken.
@@GouldFishOnGames nothing on screen im using a 14inch crt tv all i hare is the gun shooting sound
@@MrJ0mmy That seems very odd, it might be the video cable isn't working right and taking the video to the screen, or the splitter that send a copy of the video to the lightgun and the TV isn't working?
Love the GunCon, it’s definitely a more faithful arcade light gun that real gun replica but that’s what makes it great for a home console controller. Still, would it be sacrilege to add a single point sling attachment & optic to 1? 😄
Excellent video mate, thanks.
Does this gun have rumble built in?
No, some of the third party guns did but they typically just made them rumble every time the trigger was pressed.
Rather then when you actually fired in game, so it wasn't great.
Hi there! Just bought "Resident Evil Survivor". Shooting doesn't work with the g-con 45. Can make my charakter move, can "adjust the gun" successfully, can switch through the menues etc...But if i wanna shoot, it only does some "lightning" on the screen without shooting bullets. I don't think that is a problem with the gun, because it works perfectly with "Time Crisis"! Any idea? Greetings!
I've not played that game but looking up some info on it:
"The Japanese and European versions of the game were compatible with Namco's GunCon/G-Con 45 light gun... light-gun compatibility was removed from the North American release due to shooting"
So that might be your issue if you are using the US/NTSC version of the game.
@@GouldFishOnGames No, I play the European version. It does work in the game with opening doors, taking keys, switching through menues, but it doesn't shoot.
@@rocktory.official Then I'm not too sure as I've never played the game. but it does sound like its not detected the lightgun or something. as the fire button is just doing a regular button press. might be worth checking the manual as it might expect it to be in a specific port?
hi, I would have a problem with this guncon, when I connect it it works normally, but when I start playing point blank it doesn't show me the pointer, do you know why it doesn't appear?
ps. i'm doing it from ps2
I'm not sure, it's possible there are some issues with the PS2 as I've not tried playing it on one.
Only time I had a problem was when I didn't have the yellow video cable connected.
Great video. There's 2 Japanese games that were part of the simple 1500 series of games whatever that is called the gun shooting and the gun shooting 2, 2 is good, but the original the gun shooting is by far my favorite guncon lightgun game.
I'll have to look up those games as they sound interesting.
Thanks for sharing!
Can you play this on a modern oled tv?
Sorry no, it requires a CRT TV to work.
Thought so thanks
Does the gun works in LED TV?
No it needs a CRT TV to work as it still tracks the ray.
Given how niche the form factor is I'm surprised they keep bringing out new versions of light guns. I guess there much be profit in it. Nice video on this one as usual :)
Peak lightgun was between PS1 and 2, after that it became way more effort to make the hardware. There were a few but it was much less popular.
not sure if the next generation will even get a lightgun.
Yes, to be easily effective they need a moving raster. Any more requires even more hardware and possible calibration (eg. Wii).
WTF I don't remember the quest mode of Point Blank at all. I need to get a new PSX and a CRT.
I traded my Time Crisis and Guncon combo with a guy at school for... an Amiga CD-ROM drive! A weird swap but it definitely added a new lease of life to my aging Amiga :)
As a bigger Amiga fan then lightgun fan, I can't say that was a bad swap :D
@@GouldFishOnGames Getting access to all those Aminet CD-ROMS at the time, absolute goldmine :)
Hey, can you make a video how to install Righteous 3D Drivers?
They weren't too difficult to install.
But if you've not installed drivers under Windows 9x then it can be tricky,
Ok
Yep I can't install the drivers I tryed everything
@@silver_noob7047 To start with I'd use the latest reference drivers.
www.philscomputerlab.com/drivers-for-voodoo.html
the 3.01.00 set should be good for most games.
Running the exe won't install the drivers, just put them in a folder.
the next steps are mostly the same its just how you start them.
Either Windows detects the new hardware and gives you the driver installer.
Or you need to find the device in hardware manager (it will be marked as not working and have a name like Multimedia PCI device).
in the installer tell it you have a set of drivers then point it at the folder the exe extracted to.
Outside of it asking for the Windows install CD, that would normally be it.
Did it finally
Can I use Guncon 45 on ps2? Do i need some additional cables?
From the limited testing that I did, I found some ps2 games worked with the guncon45 while others needed the gcon 2.
you will need that little breakout box that gives you the yellow connector for the gun.
@@GouldFishOnGames Ok, thanks. I am reading Crisis Zone manual, there are few solution both for Guncon 45 and Guncon 2.
@@GouldFishOnGames can u plug the yellow commenter where it connects to the tv if u hae a newer model ps1?
I have the time crisis version back then. The black color and enjoying it very much. Very awesome even to display it and the best part the gun con very accurate compared to other 3rd party ones when playing the time crisis. I even use the gun con until ps2 time crisis 2. In fact it is even better and more reliable than second original guncon2 release. The second release for time crisis 2 is the problem at the trigger it breaks easily.
Can you use this gun on ps2
I tried looking this up as I wasn't sure and got conflicting answers.
as some said it would and others wouldn't
I also read, it would work for ps1 lightgun games but not for ps2.
so I don't have a conclusive answer for you.
Oh yes, bombs 💣, civilians and opponent's colour are forbidden targets 🎯 in Point Blank series. If the players accidentally shoot one of these, they will lose their lives.
Imagine that, a European with trigger discipline! 😂
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