Nice video, and one of my favorites turboprop airplanes. For the people commenting on the powerback, JUST for turboprops...wrong answer. All jet powered airplanes can powerback. Being allowed to it's different story. Pylong-mounted JT8D-powered airplanes like the 727, DC9, and MD-80 line, all were approved for powerback and did it almost daily. Wing-mounted engined airplanes are not allowed to, only because the engine would ingest debris, etc, not because they can't by design. What a nice freaking video! Thanks for sharing.
I enjoyed the video, the Saab has a very intelligent layout of instruments and displays. I could understand the pilot's very well, I had a little problem with the controllers, I'm sure it one of those accents you have to get unsend to. Thanks for making this video available
@VikingAviationPhoto-This looks fantastic! Do the pilots in this DVD, and in your other DVDs, give a cockpit presentation, explaining the different instruments??
After V1 hand left pilot takes his hand off the power lever. Comon procedure on the Saab 340. The CTOT system automatically keeps constant torq value as set when System is engaged at takeoff roll. CTOT system is switched off when setting climb power above 1000 feet AGL
@TheCurtisLeMay Yes but, some companies apply different policies about rejected take offs. Some of them consider the captain as the only one responsible for reducing PL's during the take off run and it is the captain who hold his hand on power levers until V1 is achieved. In this case it is not possible to know if the captain had his hand on the PL's
@flygsaab Hi! I am fully aware of CTOT and Saab 340 takeoff procedures. My point is that machines and computers can and do breakdown. At critical moments of flight it as ALWAYS best to have at least one hand on the throttles, regardless of what is written in some flight manual somewhere...
@dondycluck I think it's ok with a turboprop plane. I would never do it on a jet, but simply reversing the blade angle doesn't seem to harm the engines.
@dondycluck I was thinking that exact thing. Planes don't have a revers =S. Was that just for the video? or is it a practical thing for every prop liner flight
@chairliftsrcool You are right. It's definitely safer to keep one hand on the throttles at takeoff. Keep doing it, no matter what some other pilot tells you. I promise you'll never fail a check ride either that way ;) (I flew Saab 340's for quite a while...)
Excellent video, Quick Question, During the takeoff if you noticed the first officers yoke was at a specific angle, Turned slightly. Any idea why this is needed?
Thank you! In most of our cockpit videos the pilots do give a cockpit presentation. Visit flightdeckaction . com for more details. It is clearly states what features are on each video. On this one, there IS a cockpit presentation.
Well, when you are in a Twin-engine plane with props, is very normal the plane starts to go to the right, depend of the round of the props, so putting the yoke to the left will null this force :)
Luiz is wrong. P factor in the Saab will produce a LEFT turning tendency, however this effect is negligible. The yoke was deflected left, most likely, because they were performing a crosswind takeoff with the wind from the left!
It is allowed to use the reverses on the ground to back the airplane with the turboprop. It is forbidden the use of reverses on the ground ONLY for the jet engine.
@F14EddieWong Ok, it's just that now we are instructed NEVER to do that. It might come from the fact that the engines now are high by-pass with a smaller ground clearance. But I know that using reversers for push back aswell as doing a static take off improves the risk of FOI.
Frank R. Pilot it means the altitude that can be legally flown down to when immersed in clouds and/or rain or other phenomena obscuring visibility When u get to that altitude and the runway or any of the its associated alignment lights are not clearly in sight, then you must commence a go around, some folks say a" pull up." Hope this helps.
The F/O was P/F in the first takeoff. I do not like to take my hand of the throttle during takeoff, personally. In fact, when the FAA does checkrides on commuters I know for a fact that the P/F always has a hand on the throttles - during the entire flight - during the checkride... If one loses an engine during the takeoff roll and takeoff, don't folks want to have a hand already on the throttles?? Just asking...
Curtis LeMay Wasn't there at least one instance of an engine failure after V1 where the CA instinctively pulled back the power lever on the one good engine and crashed and burned as a result? This is why hands come off. My understanding is that as long as the APR system is armed the one good engine will increase torque by 7% automatically upon engine failure. Because of this there's a severe takeoff weight penalty applied if the system is inoperable.
Nice video, and one of my favorites turboprop airplanes. For the people commenting on the powerback, JUST for turboprops...wrong answer. All jet powered airplanes can powerback. Being allowed to it's different story. Pylong-mounted JT8D-powered airplanes like the 727, DC9, and MD-80 line, all were approved for powerback and did it almost daily. Wing-mounted engined airplanes are not allowed to, only because the engine would ingest debris, etc, not because they can't by design. What a nice freaking video! Thanks for sharing.
I enjoyed the video, the Saab has a very intelligent layout of instruments and displays. I could understand the pilot's very well, I had a little problem with the controllers, I'm sure it one of those accents you have to get unsend to. Thanks for making this video available
I started my career in the Saab 340B. It was a little tank. Hot in the summer though .
Sweet! We had the roof hatch open for some fresh air :-)
What a lovely looking thing and the plane was nice too
Beautifull !! A great plane with great pilots and very nice destenations
one day i want to fly with Estonian air flight! looks very nice to me, and safe!
@VikingAviationPhoto-This looks fantastic! Do the pilots in this DVD, and in your other DVDs, give a cockpit presentation, explaining the different instruments??
here in OZ they have enough room for regional prop to do a 180 turn when they arrive at the gate or after they are clear to taxi =D
@TheCurtisLeMay Airbusts? hehe... Estonian Air fly 2 737-300,2 737-500,2 Bombardier CRJ900,and two Saab 340A... the Saab 340A is a Swedish aircraft :D
Travelled extra to Tartu past autumn to fly this aircraft type on a short hop to Tallinn...sad its gone now
After V1 hand left pilot takes his hand off the power lever. Comon procedure on the Saab 340. The CTOT system automatically keeps constant torq value as set when System is engaged at takeoff roll. CTOT system is switched off when setting climb power above 1000 feet AGL
looks so pretty cool stuff!!
@TheCurtisLeMay Yes but, some companies apply different policies about rejected take offs. Some of them consider the captain as the only one responsible for reducing PL's during the take off run and it is the captain who hold his hand on power levers until V1 is achieved. In this case it is not possible to know if the captain had his hand on the PL's
I really love this airplane
Awesome ! I love it !!
nice videos! waiting to fly with them!
@flygsaab
Hi!
I am fully aware of CTOT and Saab 340 takeoff procedures. My point is that machines and computers can and do breakdown. At critical moments of flight it as ALWAYS best to have at least one hand on the throttles, regardless of what is written in some flight manual somewhere...
@dondycluck I think it's ok with a turboprop plane. I would never do it on a jet, but simply reversing the blade angle doesn't seem to harm the engines.
@dondycluck I was thinking that exact thing. Planes don't have a revers =S. Was that just for the video? or is it a practical thing for every prop liner flight
What was the landing speed it looks quick and love your videos
@SalvageMuzikk & @dondycluck Yes, the use of powerbacks are cool. This is a regular thing and not specially for the camera.
Hello Can you PLEASE PLEASE Upload CPH-TLL Flight :D
@chairliftsrcool
You are right. It's definitely safer to keep one hand on the throttles at takeoff. Keep doing it, no matter what some other pilot tells you. I promise you'll never fail a check ride either that way ;)
(I flew Saab 340's for quite a while...)
Excellent video, Quick Question, During the takeoff if you noticed the first officers yoke was at a specific angle, Turned slightly. Any idea why this is needed?
Because of the crosswind. :-)
Thank you :)
@dondycluck no problem for a turboprop. saves money not using a pushbag-tug. Pretty usual in the US with Jetplanes
Pros doing their thing... Cool! :D
@dondycluck Np mate! :D btw,the 727,C17 etc does this to... It is called Powerback :D Forgot that in last message...
@dondycluck
Yeah. That's normal. Small planes do it usin' the reversers, but bigger planes like boeing 747s doesn't use reversers.
yes, it is normal for a turbo prop
Super video, but why does Eesti fly damn airbusts??
when is their a 787 video coming
Gud video! Avianova is great!
Thank you! In most of our cockpit videos the pilots do give a cockpit presentation.
Visit flightdeckaction . com for more details. It is clearly states what features are on each video. On this one, there IS a cockpit presentation.
Very classy Estonia.
how is the aircraft going reverse without a pushback truck ?
I'm flying with Estonian from 16 to 19 march! :D
It's cool and my favorite!
I was this flying!
:-)
Why is the yoke tilted to the left during the takeoff run?
Well, when you are in a Twin-engine plane with props, is very normal the plane starts to go to the right, depend of the round of the props, so putting the yoke to the left will null this force :)
Luiz is wrong. P factor in the Saab will produce a LEFT turning tendency, however this effect is negligible. The yoke was deflected left, most likely, because they were performing a crosswind takeoff with the wind from the left!
good
It is allowed to use the reverses on the ground to back the airplane with the turboprop. It is forbidden the use of reverses on the ground ONLY for the jet engine.
@F14EddieWong Ok, it's just that now we are instructed NEVER to do that. It might come from the fact that the engines now are high by-pass with a smaller ground clearance. But I know that using reversers for push back aswell as doing a static take off improves the risk of FOI.
Small airplanes or midium, going reverse with thrust reverse,, midium airplane depend of weight
Hey there, what means the phrase minimum in the cockpit?
Frank R. Pilot it means the altitude that can be legally flown down to when immersed in clouds and/or rain or other phenomena obscuring visibility When u get to that altitude and the runway or any of the its associated alignment lights are not clearly in sight, then you must commence a go around, some folks say a" pull up." Hope this helps.
@dondycluck some aircraft can do that... Macdonald Douglas DC-9 does it tt :D
The F/O was P/F in the first takeoff.
I do not like to take my hand of the throttle during takeoff, personally. In fact, when the FAA does checkrides on commuters I know for a fact that the P/F always has a hand on the throttles - during the entire flight - during the checkride...
If one loses an engine during the takeoff roll and takeoff, don't folks want to have a hand already on the throttles??
Just asking...
Curtis LeMay Wasn't there at least one instance of an engine failure after V1 where the CA instinctively pulled back the power lever on the one good engine and crashed and burned as a result? This is why hands come off. My understanding is that as long as the APR system is armed the one good engine will increase torque by 7% automatically upon engine failure. Because of this there's a severe takeoff weight penalty applied if the system is inoperable.
Variable prop pitch. Common in many propeller aircraft.
Muy bueno
@dondycluck Turboprops use their engines for so called powerback
Very nice turboprop, but even nicer looking girl at the beginning of the flick. Shame that the emphasis was on the pilots and the flightdeck.
"Эстониан Эйр - мы летаем быстрее, чем ездят поезда!"
good plane though tricky at the landing
that's the reason i want to be a pilot because i want to fly a saab 340
@dondycluck 4:53 "Power Pushback approved"
this is ssab 340 ???? no; i t`s impossible !
Magnifique points de vues. Sa donne vraiment envie de voler.
а чего им с диспетчерами впадлу на русском общаться? обязательно английский коверкать?
Thrust Reverse
Politics in the sky....western Europe airspace OK, Russian airspace...did you see the pilot's look!!