In my opinion the CRF250L is one of the best routes into green laning and whilst the CRF300L is better on paper, when you are on the green lanes the two are so close in terms of capability that the main difference is actually the rider and not the bike.
Great video, this is true about buying a used 250 with extra for mods- The value is there. Plus it is a Honda so more than likely there will be no mechanical issues to worry over.
I've recently bought a CRF. I would prefer the 300, the extra HP, warranty, and peace of mind would be a great bonus. However as a new green laner I know there will be knocks and scraps to the bike, and as you say there are still a lot of mods to do (bash plate, frame protectors, rack, suspension?), so it made sense to me to buy a cheaper 250 and spend the saved money on worthwhile extras. I may upgrade in the future to a 300, but buying a 250 is a great way to start and I doubt I'll lose any money in depreciation. I'm all for free biking :)
You'll love the 250 Dave. The warranty would be welcomed, but they're very robust little bikes, so I don't think you'll miss it. The extra HP doesn't make too much odds when you're on the lanes 👌🏻
@@lightweightadv yeah, I've heard the 250's are robust, so figured the warranty wouldn't really be needed. Personally I think a 250 seems a bargain, certainly a lot of bike for the money and fun to ride.
If you already own a 250 I’m not 100% convinced it’s worth paying what £5500 just to get the small increase? I have ridden the 300 and no doubt it is better but when it comes down to it I think for me anyway it wasn’t worth the extra in cost
got the 300Rally in june, rode it for 1300km on the TET france in 3 days. And it's also my commuter. love the bike. it is such a great bike to live with.
I seriously considered a CRF300L and would have bought one, but none were to be had here. I'm sure I would have loved it. I was able to score a like new 2016 CRF250L with 81 miles on the clock and have found that its capabilities exceed my skills. Very happy as a result. As a funny sidenote, I was also able to get a 1973 (50 years old) Honda CT90 Trail with dual range tranny, and less than 1000 miles. Not as fast as you, but there is nowhere you can go that it will not go past. (Except maybe deep sand - much easier to extract from mud). Aint life great?
Seriously, if you see a CT90 -110 in good shape at a decent price, grab it. I think mine spent most of its life on the back of a motorhome. When you have one of those days where all you want to do is laugh, the CT will make you happy. You can wear a disguise, so people won't recognize you, and they are up for an adventure if you are.
Great vid as usual! The 300 is undoubtedly a great bike but over the 250 it has a lot of nice to haves but it’s not substantially more capable. I wouldn’t go from my 250 Rally to the 300, but I’d happily swap out my gearing and crank assembly for the 300s.
Completely agree. If you don't have a CRF at the moment, it's a question of cost really. But if you have a 250, we'll its a much harder thing to call 🤷🏻♂️
I have bought the CRF 250L, three mounths ago, used, just 1500kms, almost new, with handguards and USB conection, 4500€, the 300 model costs 1500€ + bike registration more, I do not regret it, in addition there are no units of the 300 model and with what I have saved I can greatly improve the 250, i don find big diferences between them.
As usual a well balanced video, on the lanes50cc either way from the 250 makes no difference. But the rehearing of 6th does make the 300 easier for the road.
I have a 250 and often ride 7k miles a year, don't need to go any faster on the sort of roads i ride , rarely have it at full pin, The 300 has an overstroked 250 engine and gets very hot , uses more fuel and sounds knocky. sticking to a 250 pre abs with upgraded supension , i would advise spending 3k less and get a used 250.
Hey. The 2015 is fine enough, one of the earlier models, but thats cool. They go on for miles with just a little bit of care, so it should be all good man. Happy exploring 👌🏻
A sorted 250 second is a great introduction into green Laning and as ya say buy a 300 n gonna cost to get it sorted for the lanes . But hey if ya got the money go grab a 300 n go for it ✊
That extra 3bhp makes all the difference 😂. The 300 is great, but the 250 is hardly any different. (let's not forget the 300 is only a 286cc in reality).
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In my opinion the CRF250L is one of the best routes into green laning and whilst the CRF300L is better on paper, when you are on the green lanes the two are so close in terms of capability that the main difference is actually the rider and not the bike.
Entirely this ☝🏻
Great video, this is true about buying a used 250 with extra for mods- The value is there. Plus it is a Honda so more than likely there will be no mechanical issues to worry over.
There are some bargain 250s coming on the market now too 😎
I've recently bought a CRF. I would prefer the 300, the extra HP, warranty, and peace of mind would be a great bonus. However as a new green laner I know there will be knocks and scraps to the bike, and as you say there are still a lot of mods to do (bash plate, frame protectors, rack, suspension?), so it made sense to me to buy a cheaper 250 and spend the saved money on worthwhile extras.
I may upgrade in the future to a 300, but buying a 250 is a great way to start and I doubt I'll lose any money in depreciation. I'm all for free biking :)
You'll love the 250 Dave. The warranty would be welcomed, but they're very robust little bikes, so I don't think you'll miss it. The extra HP doesn't make too much odds when you're on the lanes 👌🏻
@@lightweightadv yeah, I've heard the 250's are robust, so figured the warranty wouldn't really be needed. Personally I think a 250 seems a bargain, certainly a lot of bike for the money and fun to ride.
If you already own a 250 I’m not 100% convinced it’s worth paying what £5500 just to get the small increase? I have ridden the 300 and no doubt it is better but when it comes down to it I think for me anyway it wasn’t worth the extra in cost
got the 300Rally in june, rode it for 1300km on the TET france in 3 days. And it's also my commuter. love the bike. it is such a great bike to live with.
Hey Sly, it's a great all round bike, there's nothing it can't do 😎
What a great vidio. Where did you get the cover for you seat?
@@darseyno1520 it's called a "cool covers". Let's air pass under you 👍🏻
Thank you so much for getting back to me. I must see if I can get it over here
I seriously considered a CRF300L and would have bought one, but none were to be had here. I'm sure I would have loved it. I was able to score a like new 2016 CRF250L with 81 miles on the clock and have found that its capabilities exceed my skills. Very happy as a result. As a funny sidenote, I was also able to get a 1973 (50 years old) Honda CT90 Trail with dual range tranny, and less than 1000 miles. Not as fast as you, but there is nowhere you can go that it will not go past. (Except maybe deep sand - much easier to extract from mud). Aint life great?
Ah man, no way, that's an amazing deal. I'd live to do some C90 adventuring
Seriously, if you see a CT90 -110 in good shape at a decent price, grab it. I think mine spent most of its life on the back of a motorhome. When you have one of those days where all you want to do is laugh, the CT will make you happy. You can wear a disguise, so people won't recognize you, and they are up for an adventure if you are.
Love it 😂
Great vid as usual! The 300 is undoubtedly a great bike but over the 250 it has a lot of nice to haves but it’s not substantially more capable. I wouldn’t go from my 250 Rally to the 300, but I’d happily swap out my gearing and crank assembly for the 300s.
Completely agree. If you don't have a CRF at the moment, it's a question of cost really. But if you have a 250, we'll its a much harder thing to call 🤷🏻♂️
I have bought the CRF 250L, three mounths ago, used, just 1500kms, almost new, with handguards and USB conection, 4500€, the 300 model costs 1500€ + bike registration more, I do not regret it, in addition there are no units of the 300 model and with what I have saved I can greatly improve the 250, i don find big diferences between them.
Great news, sounds like you bagged a bargain 😎👌🏻
As usual a well balanced video, on the lanes50cc either way from the 250 makes no difference. But the rehearing of 6th does make the 300 easier for the road.
The gearing is really what makes the 300 in my opinion
Yep. Obsolete. Africa Twins are now getting cheap. I am going to buy one and start a channel called The Heavyweight Adventurer!!!
That's a catchy name, I'd definitely subscribe 😎👌🏻
I have a 250 and often ride 7k miles a year, don't need to go any faster on the sort of roads i ride , rarely have it at full pin,
The 300 has an overstroked 250 engine and gets very hot , uses more fuel and sounds knocky.
sticking to a 250 pre abs with upgraded supension , i would advise spending 3k less and get a used 250.
A 250 is certainly more affordable
A pre ABS ... Now that sounds like a plan!
@@turnoffski yeah you don't have to switch it off after each turn of the key.
@@dnx789 and the weight savings!! So I've heard. Not possible on newer machines in Europe. You can get them in Thailand though, apparently
My front ABS has saved me multiple times on and off road...
I’m looking at a 250L 2015 in Thailand are they recommended, the bike in question has lots of mods for off-road. Is the 2015 year a year of bad note ?
Hey. The 2015 is fine enough, one of the earlier models, but thats cool. They go on for miles with just a little bit of care, so it should be all good man. Happy exploring 👌🏻
Look for A 2017 up did some exhaust upgrades throttle body
A sorted 250 second is a great introduction into green Laning and as ya say buy a 300 n gonna cost to get it sorted for the lanes . But hey if ya got the money go grab a 300 n go for it ✊
100%, its just down to cost really, not the specs
@@lightweightadv yeah but let's not mention the money we have put into the 250's 😉
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What fairing / Nav mount is that on the 300 please?
It's the adventure spec mini fairing 👊🏻😎
Love my 300L, they made a 250? How quaint.....this is what KTM guys must feel like...lol
That extra 3bhp makes all the difference 😂. The 300 is great, but the 250 is hardly any different. (let's not forget the 300 is only a 286cc in reality).
My 250 is perfect for me.
Nice one 👍
Hey I just have to say that between 2:07 - 2:23, this guy has very similar nuances/facial movements when talking in comparison to Donald Trump.
Bollocks... I'll get another decade + outta my 2013 L. 😂
*Crap Game* 🎉