The battle of American Destroyer Vs. German U-boat in The Atlantic Ocean, Spoiler Greyhound

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  • @USNveteran
    @USNveteran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    My father in law lived this. Joined the Navy on 12/8/41 at 16 and by early 1942 was a torpedo man on destroyer escorts. His first cruises were convoy duty in the North Atlantic. He made 37 trips through the Panama Canal seeing Naval combat in both the Atlantic & Pacific theaters. It was only when he realized that I too am a Navy vet did he start to open up to me probably around 1995, I never asked he just started talking one day. I truly feel fortunate to have heard his stories first hand. We miss you Brownie. Thanks to allow serving, those who have, and those who will in the future. FLY NAVY!!!

    • @kikupub71
      @kikupub71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Respect

    • @beedalton9675
      @beedalton9675 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm a merchant marine thanks to the destroyer men that did the best they could and more to help get the supplies across the pond

    • @USNveteran
      @USNveteran ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@beedalton9675 My father in law told me that they were not allowed to stop if a merchant ship got hit. They would however throw survival supplies overboard for them. FLY NAVY!!!

    • @HarryWHill-GA
      @HarryWHill-GA ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy Navy Birthday. Spy Navy.

    • @larryhutchens7593
      @larryhutchens7593 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My father served on one of the Victory ships as part of a gunnery crew. The navy men who were part of the gunners on the merchant ships were called the Armed Guard. His ship was attacked by a German bomber and was wounded in the process. He was unloaded at a port at the northern tip of Scotland unconscious. He woke up in a civilian hospital and the ship continued on to it's port. I could never get him to say if the ship was headed for Murmansk or Archangel in Russia. The north Atlantic crossing was rough but the Murmansk run was just as deadly because the ships were within range of German bombers based in Norway.

  • @seanfitzgerald2657
    @seanfitzgerald2657 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This would have been much better without the commentary. Tom Hanks and the director do a great job in telling the story, don't ruin it with the Robovoice commentary.

    • @DDGVET4
      @DDGVET4 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It is annoying.

  • @metaldialgia1998
    @metaldialgia1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    They didn't listen for submarines using "SONAR". Sonar (or ASDIC if you will) was device which sent out a directional sound wave which would reflect back off of a submarine a give away the submarine's location. They used passive listening devices, known as hydrophones to listen for thing like turning propellers on submarines or torpedoes or really any sound emitted by a submarine.

  • @robertvanderbaan3722
    @robertvanderbaan3722 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This was a focused generation, not confused by what a man or women is, and frankly, treated all with the respect they earned, not what someone thought they should have. I was always amazed at my parents ability to figure out complicated math faster than my fingers, and it was correct. Amazing is what I would call them.

    • @isaned
      @isaned 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Today's generation would be crying in for their safe space, calling the bad U-boat people Nazis, to which they would reply "danke!" before torpedoing them to death.

  • @tekay44
    @tekay44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    my dad was a CPO on one of those ships, he said they were more afraid of the weather then anything else. these guys had balls of steel.

    • @mikewalker8709
      @mikewalker8709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thanks to your dad these were the greatest generation

    • @debbiebrendel9055
      @debbiebrendel9055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The weather is what really stayed with me on this film. I enjoyed it 😊

  • @joneye1
    @joneye1 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The trouble with this story is that, although the Americans did capture a submarine with an Enigma machine on board, that happened in 1944, three years too late to make a difference. The British destroyer HMS Bulldog had captured a German sub carrying an Enigma machine and the accompanying material for decoding messages in 1941, and that actually led to the breaking of the Nazi code.
    The commander of the Bulldog was Capt. Joe Baker-Creswell

    • @ripLunarBirdCLH
      @ripLunarBirdCLH ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Actually general algorithm of the Enigma was known from even before the war because polish mathematicians have created a way to decode it.
      It was very inefficient though and still steps had to be taken to perfect it. Properly encoded Enigma messages would be still unreeadable, but Germans often were getting lazy and didn't change the key coded in their machines while sending messages - in which case what polish mathematicians discovered and the Brits then perfected was sufficient to decode such message.

    • @McLarenMercedes
      @McLarenMercedes ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ripLunarBirdCLH Here's what: Even though the Allies could decipher the Enigma they also decided not to reveal that by making sure most convoys actually weren't re-routed to avoid the positions the German submarines were known to be at. Some carrying important cargo were re-routed to avoid the subs while others were sent to their usual routes with a warning that German subs *were* in a particular area. So while the convoys were sent straight into the path of the submarines the crews of the ship at least knew when to be prepared to be torpedoed at any moment.
      Allied anti-submarine aircraft were given the position of the German submarines on occasion to deal a "serious blow" but mostly not. If the Allied aircraft somehow were locating the German subs a bit too often on the vast Atlantic the Germans would get suspicious Enigma had been broken. Fact is some captains of the subs *were* getting suspicious and reported that it was "likely" the Allies could read Enigma. Fortunately the arrogance of the nazis meant this was roundly ignored.

    • @terrykay4896
      @terrykay4896 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U-505

    • @rikkitikkitavi3118
      @rikkitikkitavi3118 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also questioned the narrator's use of use of the word "BOMB" and not "Depth Charge"

    • @michaelpielorz9283
      @michaelpielorz9283 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chorus: rule Britannia!

  • @rickrowell8465
    @rickrowell8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    They are not called "water bombs". They are Depth Charges. The triggers on these Charges are set for different depths to go off according the the depth of the target (submarine)

    • @Charlesputnam-bn9zy
      @Charlesputnam-bn9zy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We learn more by watching ''The Enemy Below''.
      No Robert Mitchum by a galactic stretch that Tm Hnks.

    • @antonschollum3128
      @antonschollum3128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      fuckn right

    • @Vincent98987
      @Vincent98987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Also, missiles in ww2? I mean they did exist but they were not in u-boats!

    • @Charlesputnam-bn9zy
      @Charlesputnam-bn9zy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Vincent98987
      tom hanks' fantasies.

    • @billcrismon
      @billcrismon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Germans called them "Bata Bombe" translated as Bath Bomb... Depth Charge or Ash Can is what the Americans called them...

  • @robertmacfarlane8176
    @robertmacfarlane8176 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Lose the robo voice.

  • @fsoiberg
    @fsoiberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    WW2 German Submarines did not have missiles, they had Torpedoes. US Ships did not have "water bombs", they had Depth Charges.

    • @mathiaswittinger2808
      @mathiaswittinger2808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The missiles of that time were several stories high, no way to fit that on a U-Boat :D

    • @fsoiberg
      @fsoiberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mathiaswittinger2808 Agreed, but Napoleon had "missiles" in the 1800s, mostly as terror weapons, not accurate / directed.

    • @jorgelrevene
      @jorgelrevene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fsoiberg Just Congreve rockets! Missile only with electronic AI.

    • @isaned
      @isaned 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think this channel writes the narration through ChatGPT or AI.

    • @fsoiberg
      @fsoiberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@isaned Excellent Observation, "The things that pass for knowledge I can't understand..." - Reelin' In The Years by Steely Dan

  • @hertzair1186
    @hertzair1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    If you want to see a true riveting destroyer vs U-Boat film watch 1958’s “The Enemy Below” with Robert Mitchum and Curt Jurgens. The U Boat doesn’t squeal like an animal in that film.

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or if you want to know what the Battle of the Atlantic was really like, read 'The Cruel Sea.'

    • @clarencesmith3431
      @clarencesmith3431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A classic one of my all time favorites!

    • @sandrafreeman502
      @sandrafreeman502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dovetonsturdee7033 Indeed, or watch the "Cruel Sea" movie followed by the full series of "Das Boot" in the original German with subtitles. Both far superior to the Computer Generated, Tom Hanks, tosh.

    • @edwardbailey7911
      @edwardbailey7911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sandrafreeman502 Das Boot. Loved that one as well

    • @LarryDickman1
      @LarryDickman1 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/kPDQahMyWiw/w-d-xo.html

  • @garyholmes9300
    @garyholmes9300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It appears that the narrator doesn't know anything about ships. Harry and Dicky were Corvettes not destroyers

    • @pleiadecca
      @pleiadecca หลายเดือนก่อน

      His name is AI Guy. He loves "water bombs."

  • @jeffreywolf8332
    @jeffreywolf8332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The interpretations of the actions of the captain and crew provided don't match what happened in the movie. And as noted elsewhere, the terminology from the voice over is wrong/inaccurate. Get it right, please.

  • @cmufutube
    @cmufutube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FYI This movie is based on the book "The Good Shepherd" by C.S. Forester. A great read.

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lord knows what the creator of Hornblower would have made of the movie.

  • @brianperry
    @brianperry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The U-boats began to surface and were ready for battle.... not one crew member on the bridge/conning tower..There just aint no way a submarine would run on the surface without a watch crew..

    • @davidharris733
      @davidharris733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct. As soon as the tower hatch was clear of the water the watch officer would be through it. Just watch Das Boot, ffs not the series though.

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidharris733 Avoid the Das Boot TV series like the plague. For accuracy and credibility, it actually challenged the glory that was U571.

  • @oceanmariner
    @oceanmariner ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I served on destroyers, one was a Fletcher. I was in a hunter-killer group, a carrier and 6 destroyers or DEs. There were no windshield wipers on destroyer portholes. Cars built in the 1950s still had vacuum operated wipers. It was uncommon for Fletchers to serve in the Atlantic. They usually went directly to the Pacific because of being bigger ships, better range and more guns. Atlantic destroyers were usually Benson, Livermore, Gleaves, or older classes. It's not that hard to do proper research, but Hollywood rarely gets it right. Destroyers don't use active sonar continuously. Only when there may be a contact. Otherwise the sonar ping would draw subs to a convoy. And listening for subs required slow speed and a not too rough ocean. In a convoy, the noise of the other ships would block out most of the noise a sub would make.
    My father was in WWI and WWII. Never torpedoed, but bombed several times.

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forester's book is based on a Mahan class destroyer, but of course none now exist.

    • @Nobody0512
      @Nobody0512 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Geez it's a Movie Not a History Documentary 🙄🙄

    • @oceanmariner
      @oceanmariner ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Nobody0512 It's not that hard to do it right.

    • @thomasromano9321
      @thomasromano9321 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. These mechanical computer voices seem to always never get things right, historically. @@oceanmariner

    • @SSN515
      @SSN515 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oceanmariner They used the museum ships for filming and as models. Closest thing they had to early WW2 Cans was a Fletcher in NOLA and a Flower Corvette in Canada Doubt a Sumner or Gearing would have pulled off a early war DD. And the Fletchers were only beginning to roll out 3 months or so after the movies date. I rode Sumners and Gearings on the Gunline back in the day. We would pull repair parts off of laid up Fletchers, and I rode a couple of Korean and Taiwan Fletchers on "exchange" cruises. I doubt a realistic movie of some ships being torpedoed on the horizon, followed by Twidgets listening to passive for three hours would have drawn much ticket sales.

  • @user-we3qu8ys8e
    @user-we3qu8ys8e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Movie based 1950s novel b C.S. Forester call the "The Good Shepard". Still an excellent read and story.

  • @JAMESH7777777
    @JAMESH7777777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    IN ROUGHLY 1985-86, FT. LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA,... MY GOOD FRIEND {MOOSE}, WAS ABOUT 65-70 AT THAT TIME, TOLD ME A STORY THAT HE WAS ON A WARSHIP, IN THE ATLANTIC ,.HE SAW A TORPEDO JUST MISS HIS SHIP, AS DID THE GREYHOUND... YOU TAKE THAT KINDA STUFF WITH YOU TO THE GRAVE,.FOR SURE...

  • @chrishaan5766
    @chrishaan5766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Listening to this is like reading the assembly directions from furniture made in Japan

    • @hertzair1186
      @hertzair1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      …or more likely China, but yes, spot on

    • @chrishaan5766
      @chrishaan5766 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hertzair1186
      Much better👍

  • @edwardbailey7911
    @edwardbailey7911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Because yes it was common for German subs to surface in daylight, give away their one chief advantage (stealth), then attempt to use their one gun versus a group of destroyers and destroyer escorts each having four or more guns. Really wanted to love this movie but it had so many unbelievable holes it was unwatchable. A good CGI movie with nothing but swiss cheese for a plot.

    • @DrFrankNStein-sf2ww
      @DrFrankNStein-sf2ww ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, i started to think i was alone with my opinion.

    • @michaelpielorz9283
      @michaelpielorz9283 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When Superman and Captain America arrived the movie became more realistic

  • @terrymills2010
    @terrymills2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "water bombs"?
    "death ceremony"?
    etc...
    - how about using actual naval terminology?

  • @jamesstreet228
    @jamesstreet228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "Water bombs?" "Anti Submarine bombs?" Come on dude, they're friggin depth charges. And German "subs" aren't German "ships." There are "subs" and there are "ships." Each distinct from the other.

    • @shoominati23
      @shoominati23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Channels like this are worried about one thing only, the monthly cheque from adsense

    • @jorgelrevene
      @jorgelrevene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shoominati23 Bingo!

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The top "Dark Seas" award of an Ashcan full of garbage with Seaweed cluster for "infamous comments in the face of the enemy.";)

    • @5ve1e79
      @5ve1e79 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U boats Germans didn’t actually have many actual subs till late war. They used snorkels. But they were called u boats not “subs”.

    • @jenningsrozzell7557
      @jenningsrozzell7557 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are two types of watercraft:
      1. Submarines
      2. Targets

  • @darcyhildebrand9286
    @darcyhildebrand9286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Fletcher class destroyers did not escort north Atlantic convoys. The Fletchers were used almost exclusively in the Pacific theater in WW2. Their flush deck design was considered too wet for North Atlantic duty.

    • @philgiglio7922
      @philgiglio7922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then how can you justify using the decommissioned 4 pippers with the flush deck? They Were the lend lease destroyers.

    • @DrLoverLover
      @DrLoverLover 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philgiglio7922 They were expendable?

    • @brgilbert2
      @brgilbert2 ปีที่แล้ว

      [Darcy Hildebrand] Sorry but not so!! To suggest the Pacific was a bathtub compared to the North Atlantic is false. The Fletcher's were sent to the Pacific because that is where they were needed most.

    • @darcyhildebrand9286
      @darcyhildebrand9286 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philgiglio7922 They weren’t well suited either but is what they had.

    • @darcyhildebrand9286
      @darcyhildebrand9286 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brgilbert2 Incorrect. If you don’t believe me then I suggest you read up on it. Nowhere were destroyers needed more than in the North Atlantic convoys. It wasn’t until Spring of 43 that they could largely negate the U-boat threat and feel some confidence they could get get the convoys across with reasonable loss rates. The Pacific Ocean is called ‘Pacific’ for a reason. It is not the North Atlantic.

  • @davidturk6170
    @davidturk6170 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the end, the destroyer was not joining the other ships, and was it was not being welcomed. It was leaving the convoy (the three escort ships had been relieved), and the troop ships were thanking them for protecting them on their Atlantic crossing.

  • @MikeC19100
    @MikeC19100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Nice recap of this movie. For clarity, the "water bombs" dropped by the Greyhound are typically called "Depth Charges" by the US Navy. I'm not sure what the bombs were that the UK planes dropped, but they appeared to be typical aircraft-style bombs similar to what they used during WW II sea battles.

    • @377skyboss
      @377skyboss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The "water bomb" dropped by the plane would be called a depth bomb, a depth charge with the tail fins of a bomb. Clever name huh? 😁

  • @Bigbassdrum60
    @Bigbassdrum60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I am confused...I served 6 years in the U.S. Navy and served on a Carrier for 18 months and at NO TIME..did I see any Lieutenant Commander running around with Scrambled Eggs on the bill of his officers cap. Only thing I remember about WWII is at one point the office of commodore was restored and at that point I know scrambled eggs on the bill of their officers hat was allowed but Hanks is a 2 1/2 striper..not a 3 striper because if he was a full Commander he could sport those scrambled eggs.

    • @Charlesputnam-bn9zy
      @Charlesputnam-bn9zy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No scrambled eggs
      (or crossed fishbones as we say in our navy)
      for Lt-Cmdrs.
      Beginning only with Commanders.
      But then what do you expect with Tm Hnks ?

    • @MrJento
      @MrJento 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      22 years says you are correct.

    • @brucebartup6161
      @brucebartup6161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much respect and I know iit's annoying. But it's a drama of a novel by a Brit (C S Forrester). It's not a re-enactmant
      A sub ffires ONE TORPEDFOAAT A FAST NANOEVERING Destroyrt?
      tthey attavk iin daylightt?
      Rhey radio thritr target to announce the untent to sink her
      and on, and on.
      If it gives a kid somewherre some kind of a clue it has done it's job,
      stil rhey ccouklld have got fhe hats right.

    • @MrJento
      @MrJento 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@brucebartup6161
      I know I know. But they probably got the wardrobe at a truck stop. A little attention to detail would be nice. Like saving Private Ryan. But...a different producer. Oh well.

    • @brucebartup6161
      @brucebartup6161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the nobel The Good Sheperd by Forester Krause was in fact Cmmoddore. But maybte the term , Commloldore to a mosern day uS audience miight ne confusing?
      mystery solved?

  • @billc1828
    @billc1828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You need to get a reviewer/recapper who knows destroyers and their operations to do the review. I could hardly stand to watch the video because of the review.

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sailing the open sea like a "Dark Seas," production, accuracy be damned.;)

  • @stevenjames8397
    @stevenjames8397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I thought it was extremely decent of the German U-boats not to resume the attack on the convoy while the Greyhound was performing the ship's funeral service for its dead.

  • @stevenpratt8655
    @stevenpratt8655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good animation, poor commentary

  • @andrewstackpool4911
    @andrewstackpool4911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Gray Wolf contacts Grayhound. Interesting. I doubt U-boats had the capability of voice comms to enemy vessels as they would't know the freqs. Comments around 9:20. Rubbish. The CO would be contemplating his next tactics, the loss of ships was bad but there is no time for brooding. Sorry you do not know the command processes and further comments are nonsense. 13:10. The submarine fired a torpedo not a missile and the aircraft dropped depth charges not bombs. Please get the terminology correct.

    • @STUKABAKER36
      @STUKABAKER36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grey wolf contacting the hound is a scene in the movie, don't know why HW didn't catch that history buff but it made the cut, it's a movie recap not yarnhub

    • @lemambajaun
      @lemambajaun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Uhm, this is a Hollywood production, based on a novel, I believe. It doesn't claim that it's historically correct 100%.
      Can you imagine how boring the plot of this movie eould have been without any of the drama that the producers wrote into the script?

    • @stevewixom9311
      @stevewixom9311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also, at 5:20.. German U-boats were manned by sailors.. NOT soldiers. I don't know who wrote the narration for this but he needs to be fired.

    • @ajkrusenoski6767
      @ajkrusenoski6767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Accually some german subs did have the equipment to do this as a fear tactitc

    • @Charlesputnam-bn9zy
      @Charlesputnam-bn9zy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No ''The Enemy Below'' this one.

  • @d53101
    @d53101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    German submariners we’re discouraged from attacking escorts. Torpedoes are expensive and limited. UBoats were meant to attack merchant ships only.

    • @isaned
      @isaned 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly. Their mission was not open warfare, but to keep the supplies from reaching Europe. Although they did have the advantage of stealth, they were tin cans and DDs were VERY hard to hit with the torpedoes of that time, so they went after the slow-moving, barely armed transport ships. The U-boats only engaged if they were being hunted by the DDs, and even then tried to get away rather than try to destroy the DD, because once they were damaged, they either sank or had to surface which meant they only had the deck gun vs. the DDs 4 5" guns plus boffors and .50cal.

    • @brysonkuervers2570
      @brysonkuervers2570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Expensive? Do you not know how many Wolf Packs were out there? I don’t think they’re concerned with expense lol meanwhile if the escort is providing active threat to the submarine they have to neutralize it

    • @d53101
      @d53101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@brysonkuervers2570 I stand by my answer. Depending on what year in the war it was, the numbers of UBoats/wolf packs varied. Escorts are always a threat to UBoats. Again the primary mission of the Atlantic UBoats was to sink cargo ships. Escorts are difficult targets being small, fast and maneuverable.

    • @lethalchocobo1886
      @lethalchocobo1886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@d53101 Don't listen to the idiot above. You're bang on and the whole movie is a farce when it comes to U-Boot tactics. I'd add that they was never enough U-Boots in the Atlantic to achieve what they were set out to do. From 42 on the war was basically over for the Kriegsmarine anyway.

    • @pedrolistacarey4880
      @pedrolistacarey4880 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not "only", as they sank battleships, cruisers, even aircraft carriers throughout the war...but their main goals were the freighters, especially the tankers.

  • @garryferrington811
    @garryferrington811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They were passing through a "tract," not a "track." Damn.

  • @richardpierce7664
    @richardpierce7664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It was British tactics that the American navy adopted thru the heavy losses the British suffered in the early stages of the Battle of the Atlantic it also helped that the royal navy captured a German U-boat Enigma machine which helped read German intentions during the many battles in the Atlantic . Still many deaths on all sides. It's a shame that with the wars and the tears for the fallen that we haven't learned the lessons from the past . Peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧

    • @Simon_S22
      @Simon_S22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brit’s didn’t do shit but beg for aid. Who are you kidding here

    • @richardpierce7664
      @richardpierce7664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Simon_S22 Really get a grip on reality and history but if not then you have your own naive opinion. peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧

    • @emrahbulut1458
      @emrahbulut1458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well an Enigma machine had already been in hand before 1940 thanks to Polish intelligence however it was the type that was being used by the Wehrmacht not the navy and as the Germans changed the code everyday what the Brits needed was the code book and by chance they achieved to get it from a crippled u boat before the German crew destroying it ,then they had the chance of decoding the german code even if the Germans had started using 4 rotor types enigma code machine.This was the turning point in the Atlantic War.German Kriegsmarine HQ only got suspicious about being decoded only in late 1943 but by that time the U Boat flotilla had lost the initiative.

    • @richardpierce7664
      @richardpierce7664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emrahbulut1458 Thank you for your reply I was aware of the polish Enigma machine. Thank you for the details I wasn't aware of all the information you provided many thanks 👍 peace to ✌️ All 🇬🇧

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Simon_S22 808 U-boats were destroyed during the Battle of the Atlantic. Of these, 84 were destroyed by bombing is shipyards late in the war. Of the remaining 724, 257.5 were destroyed by the Royal & Royal Canadian Navies, and 196 by RAF Coastal Command. The US Navy sank 48.5, the USAAF 12, and US Naval Aircraft 74.
      Oh, and the Royal Navy planned and largely executed almost every assault landing in the west.
      When you grow up and learn to read properly, you might consider buying a proper history book.

  • @bobmcrae5751
    @bobmcrae5751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I was enjoying this movie despite too many near misses by torpedoes and collisions with other ships. However, the film turned into farce when the U-boat captain starts broadcasting through the destroyer's PA system. That was truly a face palm moment.

    • @alfredneuman6488
      @alfredneuman6488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's hollyweird for you!

    • @dovidell
      @dovidell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@alfredneuman6488 based on real events , well as real as Hollyweird could revise history , without being sued by historians that is !!!!!

    • @brgilbert2
      @brgilbert2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      [Bob McRae] Your kidding? They actually wrote that into the script?

    • @terrybarrett2368
      @terrybarrett2368 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Good Shepherd was written by C S Forester as propaganda for the USN the book was ok the film cr*p history all wrong

    • @brgilbert2
      @brgilbert2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terrybarrett2368 I am assuming then, that this movie was based on that book?

  • @waterz2415
    @waterz2415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If im not wrong, dicky was not a destroyer but a flower class frigate.

    • @MrJento
      @MrJento 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually a corvette. Slightly smaller than a frigate. The most common Canadian convoy escort of the war. That’s what the Flower class were. A corvette, both Canadian or English was 205 feet long. Carried one 3 inch gun in the bow, one 40mm on the stern and a few 50cal and 303 cal machine guns. And depth charges. Lots and lots of depth charges. German subs feared the corvette more than the larger destroyer because the corvette was small and highly manoeuvrable and could stay right on top of a sub, unlike a destroyer which made “runs” across the subs estimated position. The corvette was outgunned by a surfaced sub but was so shallow of draft that a torpedo might pass right under. The subs 88 or 105mm deck gun was lethal as was to 20mm flack gun. The corvettes 3 inch and 40mm might sink a sub with a direct hit to the tower while the sub had 205 feet of ship to shoot at, any direct hit usually going into some critical system. Thus the corvette fought best against a submerged sub. Just so you know.

    • @waterz2415
      @waterz2415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrJento oh yea, my bad

    • @MrJento
      @MrJento 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waterz2415
      Nope. Your all good. Carry on.

    • @darrylsmith2830
      @darrylsmith2830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct s flower class corvette

    • @tow1709
      @tow1709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrJento Flower class corvettes carried a 4 inch gun forward

  • @RetiredLover
    @RetiredLover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed the commentary. I know nothing about naval terms and don’t care if the narrator got it wrong. I enjoyed it!

  • @robertphillips6296
    @robertphillips6296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Antisubmarine Bombs, Water Bombs are called Depth Charges and Submarines at that time fired Torpedoes not Missiles!

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Enemy 'soldiers'? You mean sailors.

  • @thenadonation2664
    @thenadonation2664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked this movie and i study world war 2. This was written in a way to explain the real threats that affected the convoys over the north atlantic. It was a bunch of stories written into one for the benefit of the story telling for a movie.

  • @shino8854
    @shino8854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you even watch the movie!? The amount of times, they actually say 'depth charges'.

  • @jimstanga6390
    @jimstanga6390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Submarine Missiles = Torpedo

    • @topcatandgang
      @topcatandgang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      submarines today have missiles, but back then they didn't

  • @pedalingthru2719
    @pedalingthru2719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When did German subs get missiles?

  • @HemlockRidge
    @HemlockRidge ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For a submerged enemy, SONAR is an active location tool. Turning off the subs engines would NOT affect it. HYDROPHONES are a passive location tool, turning off the engines would give the operator nothing to hear. The two tools are used in conjunction with each other. AND.... "Water Bombs"? Seriously? Why don't they use someone who's first language is English to script a video like this.

  • @swamprat69er
    @swamprat69er 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Submarines are called BOATS, not ships. A ship is called that IF it can carry a boat.

    • @jamesstreet228
      @jamesstreet228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. That was very confusing. When it said the German "ship" I thought an actual German ship had joined the battle. Then I realized it meant the German sub. Along with "water bombs" and "anti submarine bombs" WTF??? The terminology is screwed up. This is not a very good vid.

    • @rickroybal7022
      @rickroybal7022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those tin cans are also boats.

  • @davidmcleod7757
    @davidmcleod7757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    those water bombs as you call them are depth charges

  • @Goldy-zw7fp
    @Goldy-zw7fp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great movie, not sure of the historical accuracy. I would have thought troop transports would be a fast convoy (the flowers only did about 16 knots), and they would have more escorts. It's been a few years since I read the book, but if memory serves me right (no guarantees there) they claimed a possible sinking but not as many sinking (u-boats that is) as in the movie. still loved it anyway (as with the Cruel Sea), would have been better on the big screen.

    • @realalsenor
      @realalsenor ปีที่แล้ว

      As we all know, the victors write the history, even if fake!

  • @HarryWHill-GA
    @HarryWHill-GA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The ship's name is USS Keeling (DD-548) and NOT Greyhound. Greyhound is the ship's call sign. Both the name Keeling and the hull number (DD-548) are fictional there was no (DD-548).
    The radio transmission was 15 miles "to starboard" and not "to the starboard".
    Submarines aren't ships, they are boats. Even our 16,700 tonne Ohio-class submarines are boats.
    Naval personnel are sailors and NOT soldiers.
    They are torpedoes and not missiles. Missiles fly through the air.

    • @jamessnee7171
      @jamessnee7171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like 'water bombs'.

    • @THEPHYSICALSPIRIT
      @THEPHYSICALSPIRIT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And what about those underwater "soldiers."?

    • @richardcline4374
      @richardcline4374 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It never ceases to amaze me at lame attempts these people go to trying to explain something they have no idea about! So stupid! They need to do their research first!

    • @moonman3213
      @moonman3213 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also its dove, not dived

    • @michaelbmaxwell1640
      @michaelbmaxwell1640 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct about there not having been any DD-548. It would have been a Fletcher class destroyer, but along with DD-549, it was canceled. No idea why.

  • @CatShot1983
    @CatShot1983 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "WATER BOMBS" are correctly called DEPTH CHARGES, by the US Navy.

  • @freakyold
    @freakyold 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After going through an ordeal like this, it must have been awful knowing they would have to do it again and again.

  • @snobear41
    @snobear41 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I SO want to see this flick WHEN are they ever going to release on DVD?

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Now they're 'water bombs'?

  • @jameshaury2716
    @jameshaury2716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Torpedoes swim they do not fly. Destroyers drop depth charges. I have never heard of a waterbomb.

    • @groll103
      @groll103 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. A waterbomb is a waterfilled balloon

  • @alanhughes1262
    @alanhughes1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best movie tom hanks evermade better than SAVING PRIVATE RYAN he puts you right into the battle most underrated movie of all time .

  • @justintan8074
    @justintan8074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Young man, the water bombs you've mentioned are called ""depth charges"".

  • @donaldmisgen5743
    @donaldmisgen5743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There called depth charges

  • @russelllanglois3712
    @russelllanglois3712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What everyone needs to remember is the verbal description is automated and feed a script by non navel people who use other descriptive adjectives most people are use to..

  • @enricomandragona163
    @enricomandragona163 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Been waiting to see this movie!! It won't be released until next year!!

  • @Gagnon4234
    @Gagnon4234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which is worse the droid voice or the person that wrote this ? Still it's a good third grade school video project........ Oh! it wasn't done by third graders. Never mind.

    • @sarge6870
      @sarge6870 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't insult 3rd graders like that !!!

  • @luishidalgo6252
    @luishidalgo6252 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    como se llama la pelicula y en que
    Plataforma se puede ver

  • @desertmaverick7567
    @desertmaverick7567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish that this movie would be made available for purchase so I can buy it and own it and add it to my library.

  • @stephenfricke9298
    @stephenfricke9298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My father, RIP WHO died last July, saw this. He was on a Destroyer from 1951 to 1953 (?). He missed WWII and Korea but said the movie was right on. Of course he actually missed warfare. He thought it was a great movie. Thank you for your service Dad

  • @barbaradavis393
    @barbaradavis393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know that a battleship could turn like that!

  • @user-qd1hx3fs1r
    @user-qd1hx3fs1r 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    History must never be forgotten!
    But why can we never learn from it?

  • @ultimatemovierecaps
    @ultimatemovierecaps ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing explanation my friend.

  • @waldyrvignati2678
    @waldyrvignati2678 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2023 Septembrr. Wonderful time!!

  • @josefranciscoriverofabre5222
    @josefranciscoriverofabre5222 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great film,i would Like to see it againg.emotionant.👏😎

  • @kenneth-dk9nv
    @kenneth-dk9nv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WHY DON'T THESE COMMENTATIRS LEARN ABOUT WEAPONRY AND THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY TO BE USED??THIS IS A DIRECT INSULT TO THE MEN WHO FOUGHT, LIVED AND DIED FIGHTING THESE BATTLES.

  • @fredbuckles919
    @fredbuckles919 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great presentation for an excellent movie.

  • @vivekshivdasani9521
    @vivekshivdasani9521 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The U Boats were rightfully nicknamed The Wolf Pack. This branch of the German Navy suffered 90% casualty rates. Only one crew member in ten survived the Second World War. Their top submarine captain was shot and killed by a sentry when he was returning back to the Naval Base because he gave the wrong password.

  • @Kickinoffthenoobs
    @Kickinoffthenoobs ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of pressure captain n crew were facing...only they knows. Salute to the captain who withstand under such harsh conditions n manage to survive n destroy those submarines. Here people start crying when temperature falls in winter...WHAT A SHAME.

  • @ajkrusenoski6767
    @ajkrusenoski6767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey fan recap its 2 light destroyers a corvette and a flecher class destroyer

  • @BELISARIO2011
    @BELISARIO2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its impossible to Fletcher class destroyer took part in action in feb 1942, because the Fletcher class enter in service from June 1942.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You realize you are nitpicking? What are they supposed to film from 80 years later?

    • @BELISARIO2011
      @BELISARIO2011 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WALTERBROADDUS a something trully history. There is not a four chimney destroyer ina museum to make a real history?

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BELISARIO2011 there were thousands of ships in World War 2. Can't keep and save them all? Speaking of museum ships? I really do one of these days need to get over and visit my local ones.

    • @BELISARIO2011
      @BELISARIO2011 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WALTERBROADDUS I doubt if there were THOUSANDS. Hundreds were more real at least. But in this case it needs ONE.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BELISARIO2011 can't make up what's not there anymore? It's like complaining about doing a war movie about Germans and there no German tanks around? Is only like one tiger left that runs. I'm just happy someone did film about the Atlantic war. It's kind of an overlooked topic.

  • @0nem1leh1gh
    @0nem1leh1gh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sailing on a German submarine was direct way to hell. Three quarter of the men didn't return.

  • @robertwaid3579
    @robertwaid3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't seen the Movie Yet!
    I really look forward to it? As far as accuratuacy is concerned. I've always been about that. 🤔🤔
    IF it's not True, or close too the truth, then it's just an imaginary tale.
    Meant too entertain us. These long awaited memories, and retellings of People's real Life experience's? Are very important, and very necessary, to the History of Our Culture, Our Society, & too inform other's of just what Thier Forefathers, and relatives had too Endure. Thank You for The Video and explanation of the Film GreyHound. Wyoming, Robert,🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸👀👀🤔🤔👍👍🙏🙏

  • @pelmen1294
    @pelmen1294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got the sonar thing wrong too.

    • @tow1709
      @tow1709 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes, that sonar description is a load of bollocks.

    • @FLORIDADIYDAD
      @FLORIDADIYDAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a former submarine Sonarman I couldn't help but cringe when the narrator butchered the explanation of how sonar worked.

  • @wietekevankeulen44
    @wietekevankeulen44 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can somebody post the full movie on youtube because the big movie company's are deleting all full movies from internet

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Robovoice?

  • @stevejeffries5843
    @stevejeffries5843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this movie available on DVD? 😊

  • @ruthnagarya2028
    @ruthnagarya2028 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did I miss this movie? dang 2020.

  • @FLORIDADIYDAD
    @FLORIDADIYDAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you were going to narrate a movie describing the battle between US Navy destroyers and German submarines tried doing some research beforehand and get your terminology correct.

  • @andrewmorke
    @andrewmorke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great movie.

  • @project1955
    @project1955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    depth charge is the correct name. Not water bomb

  • @allangillis9159
    @allangillis9159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was an awesome flick!!!!

  • @johnkeviljr9625
    @johnkeviljr9625 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great movie!!! Would have been better with a more accurate 35 - 40 year old captain.

  • @stanburk7392
    @stanburk7392 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dicky was a corvette as were the vast majority of warships protecting convoys. Cheap and easy to build manoeuvrable with weapons systems designed for anti submarine warfare. Not the ship you wanted to be on during a storm.
    Anti submarine bombs? are those anything like depth charges? (sarcasm)

  • @benjaminrush4443
    @benjaminrush4443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good. Just saw the Movie. thanks.

  • @darrylsmith2830
    @darrylsmith2830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A terrible in accurate description of what was happening
    A water bomb no such thing
    Either a depth charge or a hedgehog
    A missle is really a torpedo

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A non-proofread "Dark Seas" production.;)

  • @maybelannfrancisco3842
    @maybelannfrancisco3842 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's not water bomb sir,, that's what they call depth charges if I'm not mistaken..

  • @michaelsica8839
    @michaelsica8839 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would have also been better if the correct terminology was used.

  • @pleiadecca
    @pleiadecca หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AI Guy shouldn't do the narration.

  • @davidcenteno6225
    @davidcenteno6225 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the name of the movie ?

  • @diamondstar1200
    @diamondstar1200 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a poignant heartfelt story, told by a robot.

  • @BedsitBob
    @BedsitBob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Submarine crews aren't soldiers.
    They're sailors, or more accurately, submariners.

  • @sajazakhter
    @sajazakhter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are good

  • @johnrettig1880
    @johnrettig1880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Water / Hydro Phones were used to listen for Submarines sounds .
    NOT
    Sonar .
    Sonar uses a technique to send sound waves through the ocean and when they bounce back off of something like a submarine that sound returns to the ship where the sonar wave originated and the time displacement tells you both the depth , distance and direction of the submarine .

  • @marcjohnson4385
    @marcjohnson4385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remake of Robert Mitchem Curt Jurgens film from 50's the old one was better they used depth charges.

  • @roseannsalzano6621
    @roseannsalzano6621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good movie! Just watched it

  • @PdizzleOne7889
    @PdizzleOne7889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice Video 👍

    • @Fans_9
      @Fans_9  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you 👍

    • @PdizzleOne7889
      @PdizzleOne7889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fans_9 np man :)

  • @rgbrin
    @rgbrin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see this movie so bad since it first came out,,,,

  • @tyleringle268
    @tyleringle268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Has this movie been shown in the theaters yet? Any war movie featuring Tom Hanks you know is going to be a great war movie.

    • @skyclaw36
      @skyclaw36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      no its an Apple TV movie

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@skyclaw36 Which, I assume, means that it sank without trace?

  • @evanpenny348
    @evanpenny348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I have really enjoyed watching this, but I'm afraid this is just more of the "how America won the war". It was the British and Commonwealth who firstly developed the technology to defeat the U-boat challenge, and secondly to get the job done. No one should disrespect the part American forces played in all of this, and their sacrifices, but credit where it is due please.

    • @ScepticGinger89
      @ScepticGinger89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It is especially ridiculous since this movie is set in February 1942, when in reality no major convoy battles were happening because the Germans were too busy decimating American merchant shipping off the American east coast, which they could only do because the Americans were completely unprepared and had willfully ignored British naval intelligence and refused to follow British advice on anti submarine warfare.

    • @excite236
      @excite236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is only a 13min video that shows a very small part of the war. Maybe you should watch the ww2 documentary. I think you have something personal against America.

    • @richardcline1337
      @richardcline1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@excite236, the British have always felt that they alone won the war, that America just wasn't much help even though without American help the Brits would be speaking fluent German now!

    • @richardcline1337
      @richardcline1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Evan Penny, sure, the British were so great at winning the war all by themselves...just ask the men of convoy PQ-17 how THEY feel about the British...oh, but then only 11 of the 35 merchantmen that started the trip survived the slaughter caused by the British Admiralty crapping their pants over the possibility that the German mega-battleship, Tirpitz, MIGHT be moving and pulling ALL of the escorts away from the convoy. Yeah, the mighty British won the war all by themselves, right? Maybe the Americans should have stayed out of it and let the Germans HAVE Britain!

    • @evanpenny348
      @evanpenny348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry Richard Richard. Not saying that at all.