ACOLYTE Episode 6 REVIEW - What Didn't Work + Vernestra SITH THEORY, EXPLAINED!

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
  • Acolyte Episode 6 Review!
    Check out our MERCH STORE →
    TEETH → screencrushmer...
    5-25-77 → screencrushmer...
    Ability to Speak→ screencrushmer...
    Attack on the Cookies → screencrushmer...
    Good Soldiers → screencrushmer...
    Kill Sand → screencrushmer...
    Hello There → screencrushmer...
    Original Trilogy → screencrushmer...
    Somehow Palpatine Returned → screencrushmer...
    Prequel Apologist → screencrushmer...
    Say No to Death Sticks → screencrushmer...
    Go here → screencrush.com/
    TikTok → / screencrushnews
    Like us → / screencrush
    Follow us → / screencrushnews
    Get our newsletter → screencrush.com...
    Written and Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
    Edited by Lee Mazzio
    Featuring
    Colton Ogburn ( / coltonogburn )
    Mike Mazella / mikemcomedy

ความคิดเห็น • 1.2K

  • @danpshop
    @danpshop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

    Not knowing Osha and Mae’s age makes me question what show you’re watching. They clearly said the fire was 16 years ago about a million times and they said Osha was old at age 8 when she started her training. Who knew this was an Easter egg?

    • @jenniferwilson2217
      @jenniferwilson2217 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ????? 16 + 8 = OSHA’s age

    • @tedtalk9999
      @tedtalk9999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That would equal 24

    • @grand_admiral_henrich4416
      @grand_admiral_henrich4416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      + A few years added before the Brendok Incident. I have never been good at guessing children's ages, but that would make them around late 20s in the show

    • @JIBoizo
      @JIBoizo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oop someone is mad

    • @Jorizzle22
      @Jorizzle22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@danpshop Exactly. Like, what were they even talking about lol

  • @simonssays78
    @simonssays78 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    Guys Mae and Osha are 24 years old what happened on Brendok was16 years ago when they where 8! 😂 there was nothing wrong with that scene

    • @EV21
      @EV21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yea, I get that we met Amandla Steinberg very young…but it’s funny how many people still look at her like she’s 15

    • @davidduncan5897
      @davidduncan5897 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Right? That's Colton's fault for assuming Osha was a child. He based his entire "Qimir is unsettling" opinion on that assumption.

    • @killah_disciple1
      @killah_disciple1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I thought they were 10 in the flashback.

    • @Jorizzle22
      @Jorizzle22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yes! This whole video was super weird.

    • @ThePoliticalBulldog
      @ThePoliticalBulldog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      their age isn't written in canon so just like Ki Adi Mundi they could actually be any age or even be born before they were born!

  • @briankatz3955
    @briankatz3955 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +214

    Credit needs to go to “The Stranger’s” ability to adapt to seduce others to the dark side. Mae was seduced by a masked man who went to great lengths to hide his identity. While with Osha he was naked in front of her the first day.
    Just shows how is isn’t a one trick pony to seduce others to the dark side.

    • @kyd70
      @kyd70 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      It’s another aspect of duality or yin/yang that the show has expertly displayed from the first two episodes

    • @JehBasquiat
      @JehBasquiat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I think it just really shows how much he is about to invest into her rather than he did his sister. He saw her sister as weak and fragile, he sees something else in Osha most likely because she like he did, had actual Jedi training.

    • @Hotteststewpot
      @Hotteststewpot 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@JehBasquiatI think the difference in tactics is just based off their personality, so he adapts his approach.

    • @JehBasquiat
      @JehBasquiat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Hotteststewpot Not to mention his identity had already been revealed to Osha so it’s not like he could’ve tried to hide it from her anyways

    • @ssotkow
      @ssotkow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "everyone has a weakness"... Qimir's true talents is seeing them.
      TV guy is probably in the minority for not liking Qimir.

  • @thewolfe108
    @thewolfe108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    Colton is DEAD WRONG about the Stranger. This is an amazing bad guy.

    • @KingKeno777
      @KingKeno777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Prob jealous of his figure tbh

    • @NarbashEnjoyer
      @NarbashEnjoyer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@KingKeno777why say shit like that?

    • @wilricketts
      @wilricketts 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Facts, and I agree with Colton a lot but this one was a miss on his part IMO.

    • @EEHart
      @EEHart 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Yeah manny Jacinto is killing it and it’s the first time I’ve loved an evil character instantly since their fighting debut since Maul

    • @NuclearPunnany
      @NuclearPunnany 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not Ezra is a weak.

  • @timmy42277
    @timmy42277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +177

    They said that it is 16 years after the events on Brendok. So Osha and Mae are at least in their mid 20’s

    • @littlejohnnyjokes
      @littlejohnnyjokes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Yeah I feel like that point was made abundantly clear a couple of times

    • @danee.7214
      @danee.7214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      lol I had to laugh when when appropriate age was brought up.

    • @TonyMidyett
      @TonyMidyett 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      The twins are said to be 8 in the flashback, which was 16 years ago, so they are 24 now. Osha says that she left the Jedi Order 6 years ago, so she was in the Order for 10 years.

    • @rhammond71
      @rhammond71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Very easy to tell they’re in their mid 20s

    • @Secretsongs20
      @Secretsongs20 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yes, and Manny Jacinto is 38 - so there is a 14 year age difference between him and the twin sisters. That’s old enough for him getting kicked out of the Jedi temple before Osha arrived there. Ahsoka didn’t know Grogu either, while they were both training at the same time on Coruscant.

  • @gallows_knight2983
    @gallows_knight2983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I gotta say…I think Mendoza is awesome as a villain here. He’s relatable sometimes but also scary in an understated way….like he doesn’t have to tell you how powerful he is…I think it’s great

  • @benjaminroelofs6392
    @benjaminroelofs6392 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +237

    I had to laugh watching Osha's eyes venturing 'south' at least three times with naked Qimir standing in front of her.

    • @RingBilledSeagull
      @RingBilledSeagull 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      But if a man did that to a woman…. God forbid

    • @larynOneka8080
      @larynOneka8080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      @@RingBilledSeagull That was done to slave Leia, and no one had an issue with it.

    • @RingBilledSeagull
      @RingBilledSeagull 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@larynOneka8080 im talking about present day

    • @just-a-tactician076
      @just-a-tactician076 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I’m so glad I’m not the only one who found that hilarious.

    • @JFDavis-lq1bp
      @JFDavis-lq1bp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@RingBilledSeagullIf the woman was brazenly showing it off like Qimir, it would be fine

  • @fraserjamieson6544
    @fraserjamieson6544 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Not often I disagree with Colton but I love Qimir as a villain, and absolutely love Manny Jacinto’s acting.

  • @deewolf1903
    @deewolf1903 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I dont see a Vernestra being a sith. I think it is more likely that Qimir is her old padawan and she might have covered up her failure with Qimir and is afraid of it becoming exposed.

  • @theamazingmarlbito6293
    @theamazingmarlbito6293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

    The dialog is suppose to make you feel like that. He's literally grooming her to the darkside

    • @wolfmauler
      @wolfmauler 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What could possibly be an impediment?

    • @theamazingmarlbito6293
      @theamazingmarlbito6293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly bro, i don't understand your question. Like what could be the problem with that?

    • @LouisZezeran
      @LouisZezeran 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The acolyte makes more sense when you read the Revenge of the Sith novel. It takes much more time to show how Palps seduced Anakin. It’s got a very similar feeling to the path to the dark side in this show

    • @Taramore23
      @Taramore23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He reminded me of Maul from Rebels when he’s trying to persuade Ezra to the dark side.

    • @LouisZezeran
      @LouisZezeran 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Taramore23 YES!!!

  • @nora-.-g
    @nora-.-g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I really enjoy this more grounded and intimate (lol) look into the side of the Sith and other dark side users - in the same way that I really loved the way the Clone Wars dove into Darth Maul and his brother and Asajj Ventriss. “Humanizing” those stories is SO much more interesting to me than straight up evil genius villains like Sidious

  • @Visqo1
    @Visqo1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    The bad guy and Sol have done a great acting job so far

    • @mr.q8023
      @mr.q8023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those 2 are why I keep watching.

  • @EV21
    @EV21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I think the sexual tension is just about exploring another interpretation of/avenue towards “being seduced to the dark side”
    And in that respect, I think the sexual tension stuff is VERY interesting

  • @aakerr
    @aakerr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    One of the few times I find myself disagreeing with Colton. I really thought the physical seduction elements really worked well to reinforce what Qimir was saying to Osha. This is one of the best portrayals of the dark side in my opinion. Often the attempts to show a dark side villain come across a bit cartoon to me. I really like this series and I’m excited to see where it’s going.

    • @jony_b774
      @jony_b774 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is bot talk

    • @hustler3of4culture3
      @hustler3of4culture3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah I agree. It's a very subtle portrayal that we haven't seen before. It's good

    • @MausiMisty
      @MausiMisty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I think Colton hating on Manny Jacinto's rizz. Qimir is very well embodied in this series; I'd say better than most characters especially given he started off playing the fool. When he said his acting wasn't good, I was like, "yeah something else is going on under this criticism."

    • @serraangel7465
      @serraangel7465 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True he seems like he is going for the I can lead you for Osha but he seems to put himself below Mea.

  • @SILKROADAandR
    @SILKROADAandR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    Getting expert opinion on a show with a guy who doesn’t know the character names is kinda crazy!

    • @BazingaCanuck
      @BazingaCanuck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Totally agree, that guy has no business being a "Star Wars" expert

    • @Reelglad
      @Reelglad 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Right!?? I thought the same thing! Why would I want to hear anything he has to say when he doesn't care enough to learn the dam characters names? Odd pick Ryan

    • @adamdestecroix5280
      @adamdestecroix5280 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed.

    • @avmail7097
      @avmail7097 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      How fucking hard is it to find a panel that knows the character and actor names.

    • @RomanPhilosopher
      @RomanPhilosopher 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      "Squid game guy" ick

  • @RirtyDascal
    @RirtyDascal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    22:10 really... First he gets prudish about the seductive angle they're playing, and now he's gonna act like Manny Jacinto isn't killing it as Qimir. The dude has chops. There's a lot about this show I haven't liked so far, but Manny is keeping my interest peaked enough to keep coming back each week. He played a great "fool" and then his reveal was pretty close to perfect.
    I get the feeling this joker talking smack is just dealing with way too many of his own insecurities.

  • @godfr012
    @godfr012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Mae and Osha are 24. They're supposed to be 8 in episode 3 as kids which was 16 years ago

    • @ThePoliticalBulldog
      @ThePoliticalBulldog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah, they're 76, just like Ki Adi Mundi in phantom menace.

    • @kopskey1
      @kopskey1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ThePoliticalBulldog Sure man, if you want to whine about what was legends (non canon) material before, go off.
      As for the adults...

    • @ThePoliticalBulldog
      @ThePoliticalBulldog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kopskey1 The internet has made you far too comfortable. You wouldn't dare say thing one in such a condescending tone to my face because as a man you know you would catch hands for talking shit.

    • @kopskey1
      @kopskey1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ThePoliticalBulldog Yup, that's the mature response, A veiled threat to being told "this literally doesn't matter". You're getting this worked up over a work of fiction? Go outside my man.

    • @ThePoliticalBulldog
      @ThePoliticalBulldog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kopskey1 I'm not your man, boy.

  • @vyxx6222
    @vyxx6222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    Slave Leia says sexy star wars already existed

    • @Melodicroger
      @Melodicroger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Carrie Fisher was disappointed about that portrayal fwiw

    • @EPICSAWIKI
      @EPICSAWIKI 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Bikini Leia is problematic, Sith thirst trap is ok though cause it’s a dude.

    • @Jorizzle22
      @Jorizzle22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That wasn't sexy. That was gross lol It scared me as a kid so bad.

    • @Jorizzle22
      @Jorizzle22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@EPICSAWIKIno it's because we know a giant, disgusting, slimy slug put Leia in that outfit. So gross lol

    • @Boags
      @Boags 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EPICSAWIKI How is it "problematic" ?

  • @TheVentrexian
    @TheVentrexian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Probably one my fav eps of the show. I really wish we had longer episodes though.

  • @harrietty281
    @harrietty281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Wait, so Princess Leia in a gold bikini was ok (who was 17 years younger than harrison ford) but Qimir is not? Can we not have something for the girls??

    • @pmonacelli
      @pmonacelli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And for the guys too

  • @jeanannwg
    @jeanannwg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I loved this episode. I appreciate that not everyone is either good or bad. There’s a lot of gray. Sol and Qimir are such unique characters in 5he Star Wars universe. I’m all in and can’t wait for the rest of the story.

  • @GREATLFG
    @GREATLFG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    9:34 I think some show critics are confused to think their role is only to provide negative feedback yet their income is depending on the creations that they think “not good”.

  • @MatthewLetrondoMarkulis
    @MatthewLetrondoMarkulis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It’s so funny how flawed Colton’s take is. Speaks more to his issues. Ryan’s take is spot on, the other guy, not sure why he’s there hahah

    • @raydrexler5868
      @raydrexler5868 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I felt like yanking the plug out of Colton’s tv, again.

  • @juliasantosmoura1298
    @juliasantosmoura1298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I miss so much the days of television and 20-25 episode-long seasons 😢

    • @BlackPanther-nv2dy
      @BlackPanther-nv2dy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The world doesn't have time for that ish anymore. Have a imagination

  • @12oshinko
    @12oshinko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I don't see any seduction or coercion here.
    The guy murdered half a dozen people in front of her and then told her why.
    Osha is an adult and is making a conscious decision.
    The idea that Osha wants a family or some kind of belonging doesn’t fit with her words. She says she wants a life of her own, not a new family. She seemed fine with the life she was living at the beginning of the show, in which she did a job and kept her days off private.
    I'm enjoying this show

  • @morganvillescas8536
    @morganvillescas8536 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Colton has almost completely fallen to the dark side. I'm on the opposite side of his takes. I love the actors and the characters they play, the pacing kept you engaged, and the Sith Lord is awesome!

  • @hadeszero4526
    @hadeszero4526 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Whoa, Sol was remarking on his envy of Osha and the droid's relationship not demonizing it

  • @Kraidismyspiritanimal
    @Kraidismyspiritanimal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    "Why can't Star Wars make hour long episodes?"
    Colton asking the real questions.

    • @VynylFantasy
      @VynylFantasy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Talk about ‘out of touch’. Take a long hard look in the mirror. I hope you see shame.

    • @VynylFantasy
      @VynylFantasy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hour long episodes…frankly I’m appalled. I’m godsmacked if you will…(can we still say godsmacked…I think I just cancelled myself)

    • @crediblehulkstone9126
      @crediblehulkstone9126 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VynylFantasy you can probably say that...but the actual term is gobsmacked. : )

  • @tonym2744
    @tonym2744 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Princess Leia has one skimpy outfit and everyone loves it! Two guys with their shirt off and everyone's freaking out?

    • @alexp601
      @alexp601 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      The difference is that everyone didn't have access to the internet to share their idiotic comments with everyone. That's why everything these days is so problematic.

    • @steadygettingblown
      @steadygettingblown 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What you talking about? He brought Osha to the island to show her his main vein! ....You know that cortosis vein in his liar. Wow you have dirty mind

    • @darmal8770
      @darmal8770 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Don't forget Oola, the dancing Twi'lek's costume malfunction! Bewb

    • @belenchavez2262
      @belenchavez2262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly!!!! Talking about feeling feeling uncomfortable watching that scene 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @jbell2288
      @jbell2288 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think the complaint is that when the original series came out, they could get away with that. Nowadays, it would be seen as tasteless, unnecessary, and demeaning since it doesn't seem necessary to the plot (although the script to this show is all over the place). So the director chose to replicate the same mistake in modern times by objectifying someone.

  • @eaglepursuit
    @eaglepursuit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I like the pacing. It's tight and taut. They never quite give you enough. It keeps things mysterious

  • @israelbsandoval
    @israelbsandoval 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    I think Colton is uncomfortable he found Qimir too attractive, and was not ready for it. 😂

  • @JayGC
    @JayGC 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Qimir is creepy but Palpatine grooming Anakin since childhood isn't?

  • @mrnic4787
    @mrnic4787 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Was a good episode 😂 I try to look at shows like novels. Some chapters are better than others. However all the chapters together will make the book. Great video

  • @davidmacdonald2919
    @davidmacdonald2919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I mean did the actor guy even watch the episode? He wants all the answers in one episode. He knows it’s a series right? New flash, watch next week.

    • @Optimus-Prime-Rib
      @Optimus-Prime-Rib 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thats a symptom of society in general now, wanting instant gratification.

    • @karmensandiego
      @karmensandiego 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This kind of bugged me too. I feel like if they answered all those questions, their next complaint would be that there was too much exposition and explaining and didn't leave anything for the rest of the episodes! And the comment about how the characters did things that he didn't predict - um yeah, it's called a character arc, it's GOOD storytelling.

  • @FuzzyOnTheDetails
    @FuzzyOnTheDetails 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Appreciate you guys starting with the good, but not pulling your punches with the bad. It is possible to enjoy a show, or parts of it, and still be deeply critical of it.

  • @joseurielcorreanunez9310
    @joseurielcorreanunez9310 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Scary to say but this show is so pleasing. It's satisfies me to know that the Jedi were not all good and perfect as they were portrayed to be.

    • @ThisIsMyHandle333
      @ThisIsMyHandle333 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eh, they were never portrayed that way, but they pretended and people perceived them to be. But they definitely weren’t portrayed that way.

  • @Quirkywatch
    @Quirkywatch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    For once I disagree with Colton. I really liked this episode and how it showed the seduction to the dark side. Ryan you were right! Osha is the one more prone to the dark side.

  • @momaw_C1-10P
    @momaw_C1-10P 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Someone needs to give Colton a hug

  • @mikesullenger5624
    @mikesullenger5624 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    I respectfully disagree with Colton’s assessment. This was probably the best episode of the series so far anchored by the stellar performances by Qimir and Sol. Didn’t see the discomfort with the bath scene at all. The sensuality was perfectly exhibiting the seductiveness of the Dark Side.

    • @kpl-CA
      @kpl-CA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      The desperate "I'm not a prude" excuses reveal a LOT.
      This is the crowd that insists any "seduction" that doesn't pander to THEM is "unacceptable", "bad" and "poorly executed".
      AKA; bewbies in a steel bikini is GOOD "seduction" (it's actually disgusting sexual exploitation and denial of agency that they LOVE and DEMAND both in the story AND in the filmmaking) because it panders to their "tendencies" as they self-insert...
      ...but ew, strong nekkid man swimming?
      Boo! That's THREATENING to them, so it must be bad filmmaking, terrible script, cancel, cancel, cancel.
      Their "criticisms" simply reveal THEM and their worst tendencies.

    • @arvelcrynyd6311
      @arvelcrynyd6311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yeah, I agree, his take on this episode was pretty whack in my opinion.

    • @axolotlinabottle
      @axolotlinabottle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      To me it didn't even feel like an entirely sexual seductiveness, more of an example of how free from the jedi constraints one can be. Continued by his explanations of how else you can use the force. I think there's a lot of nuance people are missing because they couldn't handle Qimir bathing in front of her and just focused on that.

    • @SraMacaco
      @SraMacaco 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Knowing a little about the creator, I fully expected all the leads to be females. My fears were seemingly validated by E3, so I was delighted to see that at least two major characters were male. If Vernestra turns out to be the big bad, that will make sense.
      I, for one, don’t find Qimir “creepy” at all, any more than Darth Vader is creepy. I think he makes a great bad guy.

  • @Johnroz38
    @Johnroz38 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I really liked this episode. I liked the duality of the two Jedi and their approach with the twin.

  • @drookard1525
    @drookard1525 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    RIP Jecki

  • @toyrizo
    @toyrizo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dang, comparing this with breaking bad is pretty apples/oranges. The fictional history, budget, and push to innovate and do something different than what’s done before is so challenging vs. what breaking bad brought to the table. Too much unnecessary hating imo.

  • @davidgroll-cook7125
    @davidgroll-cook7125 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Let’s put this in perspective, not all the movies, animated or live action Star Wars was a home run all the time.
    This show is just the same. It has great moments and sub par moments. I’m happy we are getting new stories to fill in the Skywalker universe

    • @camerondepotato1005
      @camerondepotato1005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Cope

    • @LawTzuTao
      @LawTzuTao 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly! Plus, many of us are well above the target audience age. I just enjoy sitting and watching this stuff with my son who is a sequel era Star Wars fan, born just before Lucas sold the franchise. So he became a fan during the Disney era.
      I would have left Star Wars behind long ago if it weren't for the novels. Otherwise, I'd be treating this franchise like I treat Marvel/DC. Fun to watch, but I don't take it seriously at all.

    • @Jorizzle22
      @Jorizzle22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly! We also can't really judge everything until we've seen the whole series. It's fun to speculate and that's going to happen obviously, but I don't know that we can fully criticize until we know the whole story.

    • @camerondepotato1005
      @camerondepotato1005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you’re allowed to be critical with the media you watch even if it’s not over yet.
      Let’s put it music terms. You’re listening to a song but then the singer rhymes the same word 3 times and mumbles, you might be like “wtf is he saying, and why’s it so lazily written.” You might even turn the song off if it’s bad enough.
      You can say what you think is wrong with what you enjoy instead of “oh well it’s alright, but I’m waiting to see until it’s done.” Go for it, wait for the end, but don’t hold your tongue on what you don’t like while it’s still releasing

    • @ThisIsMyHandle333
      @ThisIsMyHandle333 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This show is literally Star Wars to the core

  • @t00sa
    @t00sa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    It's so unfortunate how many shows have to suffer because of this recent and ongoing trend to cut from both episode runtime and season length.

    • @rickmcdonald7075
      @rickmcdonald7075 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s bad for the writers too.

  • @alexwilson2503
    @alexwilson2503 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    "Somehow, Jecki survived" 😂

    • @davidchism6081
      @davidchism6081 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      She had inherited The Wolverine's healing factor.

    • @alexpkeaton4471
      @alexpkeaton4471 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Qui-Gon: "NOOOOOOOOoooooooooo..."

  • @Visqo1
    @Visqo1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Im glad the show looks at legends and adapts some things making them now cannon

  • @yay-cat
    @yay-cat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I thought this episode was way better than Bridgerton and I love the little nod to smutty novels in the one more women centric show from the star wars universe. Its Also nice seeing a male asian lead that’s allowed to be sexy/ desirable (ok there’s Lan in the wheel of time show too). Usually asian men are assigned rolls where they’re the dorky side kick and almost never the heart throb.

  • @elketerbentzadik
    @elketerbentzadik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Colton is on point insomuch as the Disney+ Marvel and Star Wars shows should be a full hour. But holy shit is he off base about the acting and dialogue. This episode both were firing on all cylinders.

  • @larynOneka8080
    @larynOneka8080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I really like the story. The dialogue and pacing could be better, but I am enjoying where the show is going. Anakin didn't need to be seduced by the dark side because he had already been seduced by his desire to save Padme. All Palpatine needed to tell Anakin was that he could help him save his wife. Anakin didn't need to hear anything more than that.

  • @jasenbertrand
    @jasenbertrand 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Wild theory, Qimir is Darth Ramage(Tenebrous master), who is also Imri(Vernestra's padawan). The HR is currently dealing with creatures that cut connection to the force. Ramage and Tenebrous were trying to create a Virus to cut the Jedi's connection to the force.

  • @Jorizzle22
    @Jorizzle22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You couldn't take five seconds to Google the names of the actors and characters? Really?

  • @davidsanabriamora5894
    @davidsanabriamora5894 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the haters. Don't watch it if you don't like it. Great episode.

  • @korrydowney
    @korrydowney 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The show has been pretty DAMN GOOD overall, with several hiccups (like all SW before it) here and there. Dealing with fandom that expects perfection (and nothing less) has been terrible.

  • @DianeNalini
    @DianeNalini 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In Episode 3, I believe we learn that Osha and May are at least 8 years old at the time that their ceremony is interrupted by the arrival of the Jedi. In the latest episode, Sol says he has had "16 years to think of what he'd say [to May since that day]." So the twins are 8 + 16 = 24 years of age.

  • @himynameistim009
    @himynameistim009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Jar jar is the Sith Master

    • @conscientiousobjector5988
      @conscientiousobjector5988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I swear the modeled Yord on Windu, Anakin, and Jar Jar. They combined them all into one person and still failed to get it's worth of entertainment value out of it.

    • @TonyMidyett
      @TonyMidyett 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On the Clone Wars series, Jar Jar is often alone, and he still acts like a bumbling moron. If he's a Sith Lord, why would he pretend to be a fool when he's all alone?

    • @Hdub8526
      @Hdub8526 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No again jar jar!

    • @willfilmon182
      @willfilmon182 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sith Master is the short sniffer pronoun rodent alien. Popular internet theory is he'll Force choke Q'imir in final episode for revealing the Sith exist, but I think it'd be cool if they had a lightsaber duel instead of the choke.

  • @ameleiizane
    @ameleiizane 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Qimir made me cross to the darkside and I wasn't even there! Poor Osha.🤣🤣

  • @kjadan101
    @kjadan101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Colton, what you’re feeling is exactly what evil is MEANT to make you feel-gross. This is how manipulation works with young people (& yeah Osha & Mae are in their 20s; they constantly bring up the timeline my dude). And you feel gross because you know it’s awful & she’s buying into all of it. In that way, this episode was VERY effective.

  • @CrowMagnum
    @CrowMagnum 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Colton complains about those complaining about the show and then comes off sounding just like one of them. Seems like audience capture, or jealousy of Qimir's dark side rizz

  • @amandachristine7883
    @amandachristine7883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think it's funny that dudes are uncomfortable with the sexy/creepy of this seduction. I wish there was a lady on this video to bring in another perspective because I personally LOVE that they're putting stuff in for the femme fans.

    • @EPICSAWIKI
      @EPICSAWIKI 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think dudes are more upset that they’ve been told sexy Leia is problematic and then add a thirst trap scene with a guy lol.

    • @amandachristine7883
      @amandachristine7883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EPICSAWIKI if that's the case, those dudes need to look up the definition of consent. There's a big difference between these two scenarios.

    • @disneydesi1496
      @disneydesi1496 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree 100%. Can’t have a real conversation about this episode without a woman’s perspective.

  • @smithkk89
    @smithkk89 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Episode 4. When Sol Vanestra to go she says
    “I fear Mae is only a small part of her masters plan. A plan that is difficult to see.
    (Stops making eye contact)
    Some sort of shift. Something to tip the scales.”
    This is what leads me to believe that earth plagues will be introduced. In the novel tenabrus had multiple acolytes. I hope that is what this show is building towards.

  • @seanwilliams2781
    @seanwilliams2781 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    OSHA looked down at his personal light saber.

  • @dex3779
    @dex3779 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sol deeply troubled expression is really making this show super interesting and good. I think if he isn't a good actor people would not care one bit. Like gets us thinking what really really went down for him to want to tear up and get angry and go behind the jedi higher ups back.

  • @IcarusLanding24
    @IcarusLanding24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Jeez, Coulton. Rip on anyone on the Internet saying that this series 'isn't Star Wars' (which I agree with you on) then proceed to go weird prude level and say the series 'isn't Star Wars'.
    The scene was new ground and ground that needs to be covered if Star Wars is to evolve, IMO. I can't say it was fantastic but it just was a seduction scene, which is totally sith.
    Again, weird prude stuff, sir. The current timeline is 16 years after the massacre, so the twins are mid 20's and these are clearly adults in an adult scene. Not consensual because there was a kidnapping but...Sith!
    Sexuality is great, and the more the merrier in Star Wars and outside of that galaxy.
    That's all. Appreciate your opinions, whether I agree or not.

  • @grand_admiral_henrich4416
    @grand_admiral_henrich4416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A thing that makes Sol's darkness grow I think is because he is now the SOL (LOL) survivor of 2 devastating events. The Brendok 4 Jedi all died, but him, and it started the entire story of Acolyte. And now he is the only Jedi survivor of the Khofar incident, where he watched his entire team of 7 jedi beeing killed by this rising new threat

  • @NerdsEngage
    @NerdsEngage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    To quote the great film. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. The seduction to the darkside is supposed to be uncomfortable.

  • @fleapitflicks5212
    @fleapitflicks5212 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think he’s doing everything to set up a battle between the two sisters. He rejected Mae and is now showing love to her sister. The entire power structure of the Empire was pitting people against each other. That came from Palpatine and ultimately from the Sith.

  • @mx9226
    @mx9226 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I still like Sol at least. The actor’s own talents save him from the crappy dialogue.

    • @crediblehulkstone9126
      @crediblehulkstone9126 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you mean the Star Wars dialogue? I mean let's be honest, the writing and acting have always been stiff...this is actually more nuanced in a way I appreciate.

  • @Arkiejuice
    @Arkiejuice 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think the show establishes the fire happened when they were 8 and this is 16 years later, making them 24. 21:29

    • @Mnstrsplayhouse
      @Mnstrsplayhouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My brother’s name is Arkie

    • @Arkiejuice
      @Arkiejuice 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mnstrsplayhouse cool! It’s not my name, but I’m an Arkie, because I’m from Arkansas.

  • @teddytaylor2099
    @teddytaylor2099 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    these guys manage to have insightfuly and entertaining discussions theorizing about things far more interesting than the show itself and manage to surpass the actual runtime of the episodes

    • @zachariahsmith9130
      @zachariahsmith9130 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They are awful and their comprehension is that of a middle schooler at best. The crap theyre saying doesnt make sense and the info the show gives supports that they dont make sense. Every week Ryan has some new theory even tho days ago Qimir was Plagius but before that he wasnt.

    • @Raven16596
      @Raven16596 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zachariahsmith9130 If you don't like their commentary than stop watching their videos.

    • @sakifahmed2196
      @sakifahmed2196 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zachariahsmith9130 correct

    • @csxanatos653
      @csxanatos653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This guy Mike seems doesn't seem to bright. His take is awful

    • @bethb4432
      @bethb4432 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@csxanatos653His takes are ALWAYS awful. It’s Colton I’m surprised at this time.

  • @jmac2050
    @jmac2050 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Qimir is a space vampire that consume his acolyte, when they're ripe..
    and, Sol is the father of twins , donate some of his midichlorian
    to the Space Witches.

  • @kovie9162
    @kovie9162 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I actually liked the parallel scenes cutting between Osha & Qimir and Mae and Sol. It's a common dramatic device used in many movies and TV series. An infamous example is the baptism scene of the Godfather, cutting between the pureness of a newborn being baptized and brought into the society of god, goodness and the church (we're talking ideals here), and the evil of (admittedly bad and fallen) people being cut down in cold blood.
    Of course that was all action while this was all dramatic exposition and mostly talk. But it still works, because in one of the narrative arcs a light side force user is trying to bring another force user who fell to the dark side back to the light side, while in the other arc a dark side force user is trying to bring a former Jedi to the dark side.
    It reminds of another time that SW did this, towards the end of TROTS, when a dying Padme is bringing new life into the world while the formerly good Anakin is transformed into the evil Darth Vader that we know best. It wasn't just talk. Something important was going on here that went on to figure importantly in the overall SW story, and we were able to witness it. Does Mae cross over to the light side? Does Osha fall to the dark side? What happens to Qimir, Sol, Vernestra and the Jedi? And how does this all lead to the reality and events of TPM?

  • @edwardlinke4741
    @edwardlinke4741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's hilarious that subtle dark side user played a moron on the good place and is now a bad ass

    • @alexp601
      @alexp601 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's what acting is

  • @calvincole2637
    @calvincole2637 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Here's my theory. The four Jedi Mae wants to kill are:
    1. Indara
    2. Torbin
    3. Kelnacca
    4. Vernestra
    Not Sol.

    • @camhollaway
      @camhollaway 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i agree but explain your thoughts!?

    • @calvincole2637
      @calvincole2637 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@camhollaway This is just speculation but I get the impression the whole event on Brendok was secretive and Vernestra has first hand knowledge of what happened. She didn't get her info from some report. Sol's only crime was keeping quiet about what took place. I also feel like Mae had a few opportunities to try and kill Sol on Khofar and on the ship, before getting stunned.

    • @calvincole2637
      @calvincole2637 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was wrong

  • @jeremydoud4885
    @jeremydoud4885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Uncomfortable with naked man you are. Not firm in your sexuality? He, he…” says young Yoda to Colton…”accept his muscular frame, yours is not. Jealousy leads to the Dark Side “

  • @kyd70
    @kyd70 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    How is “I want to see more” a criticism?? 😂
    This episode was AMAZING. Characters were doing 180deg turns vs last episode, highlighting the yin v yang of the entire series. It was a definitive episode

  • @daviddevarney7982
    @daviddevarney7982 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Since this is a mystery looking at it from different angles....I suspect someone will utter on the final episode the following famous line: “So what I told you is true....from a certain point of view.”

  • @jasontoland1158
    @jasontoland1158 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think we will find out that Vernestra lost a Padawan, and it was Qimir. She knows he's alive and trained Mae after seeing his style in Mae's action from the fight recording. She keeps saying, "...to tip the scales" which might reference something he said to her long ago.

    • @shastaroseward
      @shastaroseward 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imri Cantaros? I just learned of this theory/connection. Very interesting, especially since he could manipulate others’ emotions. Thanks for this insight!

    • @ninjaninjaninja5203
      @ninjaninjaninja5203 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good theory!

  • @jamesdean3495
    @jamesdean3495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these types of discussions. Sometimes even strong disagreements but all points are discussed thoroughly and some form of common ground is found. On top of being civil, you guys always manage to teach me more about the lore.

  • @togeika
    @togeika 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The Acolyte will connect us to the Sequel trilogy. Qimir may be an early Ren, if not the first

    • @reyasyaN
      @reyasyaN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably.... anything but Plageuis

    • @TonyMidyett
      @TonyMidyett 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What if Qimir says in the final episode, "My name is Ren...Ren Plagueis Tenebrous Skywalker!"?

  • @adrianarivera9392
    @adrianarivera9392 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Colton: I’m not a prude
    While being a prude

  • @ApolloPlanetary
    @ApolloPlanetary 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This show is not JUST about the Jedi’s hubris (this theme has been beaten to death) but more about the fluidity of morality and the force.
    The Jedi try to restrict how the force is used and understood. They force Jedi to be emotionless robots and not have attachments instead of teaching them how not to be subservient to their emotions and letting them control all of their decisions. And above all else, they want a monopoly on the force itself instead of seeing it as something open to everyone and their respective interpretations.

    • @eyespy3001
      @eyespy3001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a metaphor for how Gen Z views older generations and vice-versa. Gen Z believes that all the “Boomers” are emotionless robots who are happy to do what they’re told to, while older generations view Gen Z as overly-emotional children who can’t get with the program.

    • @reyasyaN
      @reyasyaN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@eyespy3001this tracks.

  • @caolkyle
    @caolkyle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ‘I was a Jedi, a very long time ago….. in a galaxy far away’

  • @jasenbertrand
    @jasenbertrand 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Im starting to think Qimir is Imri, Vernestra's missing padawan in the HR

    • @thaddomick
      @thaddomick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Its literal 90% of his name. He is really Clark Kent-ing the hell out of this if true.
      The problem here is they haven't set that up at all; no forshadowing, no mentions, etc. It would be worse than "somehow Palpatine survived."

    • @jasenbertrand
      @jasenbertrand 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@thaddomick it actually has though, Vernestra stating "trained by a former jedi" in ep2, him stating he was a former jedi a really long time ago (100years), when Vernestra had an apprentice go missing in Nihil space with the "nameless", then the scar

    • @thaddomick
      @thaddomick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@jasenbertrand That last part isn't in the series. That is knowledge from the books.
      The vast majority of the audience haven't ready any of the HR novels so they won't know that.
      Look I don't think it is a bad theory; just not set up well in the series if it turns out that way. It really would have taken only a few conversational lines, perhaps when they found Jekki's body, about the difficulty for a master to lose a padawan.
      They probably should have had that conversation anyways to make Sol's sudden unawareness towards Mae more obvious and understandable for the audience. I don't think a lot of the critics, including some of the people who made this video, understand that Sol just watched one of HIS kids die brutally, and only the coldest of Jedi is going to be in their right mind immediately afterward.

  • @bcspiel
    @bcspiel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We continue to hear Kylo Ren's theme because like Ben Solo, Qimir feels he was turned on by his master (Venestra).

  • @reyasyaN
    @reyasyaN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    22:00 Colton goes off on the obligatory "if you dont like it you're a whiney hater" then proceeds to tears it apart saying basically the same thing those "hater" dudes are saying, lol.

  • @JROTCBALL
    @JROTCBALL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wasn’t crazy about how they drug out the mystery of what happened to the force witches.. but I enjoyed the rest of it. Definitely curious to know more about the strangers past n how the rest of the series plays out

  • @VinnyVidiVintage
    @VinnyVidiVintage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think when people complain about politics in Star Wars they are not talking about in Universe politics, but putting our political arguments into the Star Wars universe.

    • @ThisIsMyHandle333
      @ThisIsMyHandle333 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The irony is that those complainers are the ones doing it - even though they’re 100% wrong, as Star Wars has always been a reflection of real-life politics.
      FFS, America is the evil empire 😂 according to George, no less

  • @Aristophocles
    @Aristophocles 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really resonate with Coltons take. He was acknowledging the flaws in a thought provoking way.

  • @xjezzakai324
    @xjezzakai324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We, as Star Wars fans, never held the Jedi accountable for their own destruction. We glorify them when they were actually indirectly responsible for the Empire. Imagine a Fire Chief who's own Firehouse burns to the ground. Would we as a society just pat this guy on the back saying good job? or grill him relentlessly on why his own fire department was not up to fire code.
    As a show, I was excited to see the beginning of maybe some Jedi who were Sith deniers, or playing the politic game too much. I am curious where they may take Vernestra's character. But hesitant that they break lore too much.

  • @jaylc
    @jaylc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I feel like this channel has gone for quantity over quality these days. You guys miss a lot that you use to never do before. Slow down and get it right.

    • @NARNONDU
      @NARNONDU 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now these guys are more busy selling t-shirts.
      Buy our merchandises
      Every single video

    • @StudioGuillemCalvo
      @StudioGuillemCalvo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My favorite videos in this channel were those where they would research real world situations that would shine a new light on the shows discussed. Shame they have changed their priorities

  • @cfsparta92
    @cfsparta92 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    to what colton was talking about around the 10 minute mark (the jedi being war criminals and soldiers by the time of the clone wars), the line from the opening crawl of revenge of the sith echoes through the entire discussion about this: "there are heroes on both sides. evil is everywhere."

  • @al28854
    @al28854 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:08 I watched this episode with my wife and I had to laugh when she said ''Oh that's like a Star Wars Nicholas Sparks kind of scene there, and he's gonna be her new DARTH DADDY''.

  • @jetthreat5000
    @jetthreat5000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I didn’t mind the slow down, but what happened on Brendok getting interrupted every time is getting only, annoying and is dragging on

    • @arvelcrynyd6311
      @arvelcrynyd6311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, the good news is that I’m 95% sure the next episode is gonna be another Brendok flashback, and we’ll learn what really happened…

  • @EpicRealmTV
    @EpicRealmTV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @ScreenCrush - Qui-Gon "Served" The Force, The 'Living' Force. Obi-Wan's Statement to Anakin was "Anakin, my Allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy! Chancellor Palpetine is EVIL!!"

  • @codysmith1534
    @codysmith1534 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Do yall not see the likeness in Qimir and Sauron? He's playing the Anatar play with everyone.

  • @ScottyHawkish
    @ScottyHawkish 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Jedi used the republic to build a network of Satellites that mimicked the Nihil power to navigate hyperspace. Huge blow to the Nihil and basically saved the entire galaxy... this solidified the relationship.

  • @axolotlinabottle
    @axolotlinabottle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think people read the scene with Qimir wrong. It wasn't sexual tension at all. He's just behaving so opposite of the jedi and he has made himself look completely vulnerable in that moment. Osha is trying to figure out what's going on. He even blatantly makes a comment about Jecki (who Osha did have a chemistry type moment with) and how their relationship would never be anything more because of the Jedi beliefs. That's how i perceived that whole exchange at least. The join me comment seemed me like a joke than suggestive.

  • @eaglepursuit
    @eaglepursuit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is that the first safety railing we've seen in Star Wars since the Ewok village?

  • @LucianHalo
    @LucianHalo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "I just killed all your friends."
    Mae: "I'm moist.."

    • @arvelcrynyd6311
      @arvelcrynyd6311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Accurate 😂

    • @selena3863
      @selena3863 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People are always most vulnerable in their grief.

  • @DarthArachnious
    @DarthArachnious 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was one of the things we lost with Legends. In the last series, The New Republic and the Imperial Remnant and several other governments like Hapes. Formed A Federation, in which Luke said The Jedi weren't needed or wanted as soldiers. So he made the Jedi an autonomous entity to study the ways of the Force.
    All the masters that survived Darth Caitus and The Corelian Civil War. Developed new ways of training young Kefi so they didn't turn dark.