WOW, I understand Shias now...How Islam Split into Sunni and Shia (Sunni Slovak Muslim Revert)
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- WOW, I understand Shias now...How Islam Split into Sunni and Shia (Sunni Slovak Muslim Revert)
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AS SWEDISH REVERT THANKS TO ALLAH I FOUND SHIA ISLAM. THE TRUE PATH OF ISLAM.
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From kufr to kufr
Mashallah. Please don't ever indulge into the discussions or actions which can lead to divisions in ummah. And that's what Ali AS did.
@@qasimhasnain2691
Correcting umeh is opposite of divide.
Brother welcome to Islam but you are greatly mistaken in accepting Shiism which is an irrational misinterpretation of the real events that took place after the Prophet. So please stick to pure logical Islam instead of being a misguided Muslim.
لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰه مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰه و عَلِيٌّ وليُّ ٱللَّٰه 🏴
وش معنى ولي الله ؟
هذه زيادة على الشهادة مافي أحد قالها
Oh people! I have left among you some thing which if you get (hold of) it, you will not go astray: The book of Allah (Quran) & my progeny, household. Who are Household, ask yourself that question?
In household every wife is included, what about syeda Ayesha sadiqa r.a, two other daughters of rasul Allah, wives of Usman ghani r.a....
@@sirajabbasi8682 and yet they were nowhere to be seen at the event of mubahila, not the other three daughters that you sunnis claim and neither any of prophet Muhammad (saw) wives
@@sirajabbasi8682the wifes are not ahlulbayt
Shia muslim here. I have to clarify a few things. First of all, Shia dont believe that the 12 Imams hold supernatural powers. You might have heard some shia "sheikhs" say some stupid things that are basically kufr, but generally the absolute majority of scholars and shia believers don't hold such views. We follow the Quran first and foremost, and we take our intrepretation of Islam by the Imams who we believe were passed down the correct teachings of Islam step by step up to Ali who were taught by Prophet Mohammed
And to be noted, this is what Prophet Mohammed said to Ali, "You are to me like Aaron was to Moses except that there shall be no prophets after me." (al-Bukhari, his Sahih, part 5, page 24)
That statement alone pretty much shows that Prophet Mohammed and Allah held Ali in the highest of highest regards above all other companions. And yes, I also say Allah because the prophet would never give such an example if Allah didnt agree, and everyone here should know who Aaron were in Islam.
So basically yes, the split were political indeed, but when we know that Ali were held in such a high regard above everyone else so of course we follow ahly bayt and their narration of what Islam is, what prophet Mohammed said and did etc. We dont follow "al jamahah" the companions (though we hold them in high regard) because they were not the Aaron to Prophet Mohammed, Ali were, and Ali passed down prophet Mohammed and Islam teachings to his sons and the prophets house hold. Thats basically it.
So you pick one random hadith to change Islam right? :)
Jan, dont be ignorent, search and you will find, there is many hadith, i say again read your own books. Shia logic is above all logic its even in your own books. But you have to read stop being ignorant, Allah does not love ignorent.
@@Dollarbill2012 :) what?
@@jantheslovakmuslim yeah keep commenting "what" and "?" every time someone tells you to look deeper into this issue. You are being lied to by whichever scholar you are listening to 🙄
Did you want the guy to list you every hadith in one comment? 😂
Even if he did, you would still not believe it cause you choose to be a ignorant
Just a suggestion, instead of asking others to explain their biased views on shia to you, why dont you pick up a book and use your brain that god gifted you to analyse the differences ☺
But Aaron died during the time of Moses, so how could he be his successor in the first place? 🤦♂️🤣
The day of judgment will reveal the truth
yes, but that day become worse for those who are not in right paths....
It is sad what happened to Ali, although he knew he was chosen by prophet to be the leader, to avoid conflict 3 times he stepped down and even supported the 3 other khalifas.
I am an Arab from the Arabian Peninsula, and I tell you what you said is wrong. The Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, did not choose a specific successor for him for sure
Choosing a successor is a divine and order from God, not from humans. That’s why the prophet chose Ali.
@@الحقيقةالمغيبة-خ9خi can tell you, you and your sect are wrong, there is a reason every terror group in the world is sunni xD
@@AlexSumer-vu2ji evidence for prophet ﷺ chose ali ?
@@adeebazadsheriffGhadeer Khum to name 1, But whenever we bring it up Sunni misinterpreted in a different way
What I could understand in simple words is Sunnies recognise Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) as a friend and Shia recognise Prophet as a Master.
@@yaridosti390 no totally wrong sunnie ( umari ) sect recognizes Prophet Mohammed as Elder brother (astaghfirullah )
@@yaridosti390 Sunnis and Shias recognise The Prophet Muhammad (s.a.a.w) as the last Prophet. But Ali (a.s) is seen as a respectable Sahabi in Sunni Islam and in Shiism he's seen as the successor of the Prophet, because that's what the Prophet literally clarified at the event of Ghadeer Khumm. The sunni interpretation doesn't make sense from a logical perspective, because it was an undeniable fact that Ali (a.s) was a respectable Sahabi, so gathering all these people in a desert just to announce, that he is just a friend is ridiculous. "Maula" in this context therefore means "Master".
Ahh no, Sunnis take prophet Mohammed as master and Shia takes their current imams as masters (for example afa khan ). Also Sunni takes twelvers (the Shia branch which believe in 12 imams ) as Muslims but not ahmadis, aga khanis , qadyanis etc . But when outside force becomes threatening enough , they all unite . Example : crusades , Mongolian invasion (after Baghdad) and current to Yemeni houthis who are Shia but helping Sunnis . in the end , they do fight and bleed with us .
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When did this Umeri jaamaat ( AKA sunnies) agreeed anything
All they lies and more lies
I pity you guys you guys have no clue what you are talking
You guys get drilled only 1 day and that is on your Friday sermon talking
“shout “ about shias and Ahlebeit ( prophet family )
What? I'm a sunni and I never heard that. We call the prophet prophet that's about it
Allah has decreed about slander and hatred of Islam and Muslims until doomsday arrives, this is to test our faith, May Allah protect and keep our iman in Islam...
I m Muslim from Bangladesh. Islam came here in Bengal in 13th century. If i would born in prophet Muhammad (sw)'s time i would definitely fought in side of Ali(ra) and imam Hussain. I love them as well i love 4 Caliphs. I love all Muslims irrespective of sects because main fundemantal is "There is no God but one God Allah and prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is his final messenger".
We just can't say others non Muslim until they believe in kalima and leave alone other things.
Exactly! I'm Shia Muslim and I view the sunni muslim just as you said. Shahada and other 4 pillars makes someone a Muslim! We must stick to this
Yes, it was that same incredible kindness and forgiveness that was what motivated the khawarij to assasinate him unfortunately as they could not stand it.
shias worship other than Allah..just saying u believe in "kalima" doesnt mean u actually believe and implement La illaha illallah....
Unfortunately due to specific Shia-exclusive practices, westerners and many other non-muslims think that otherwise non-islamic elements like Nikah mut'ah (pleasure marriage) and Taqiyya ( lying/deceit on whim against non-muslims) are Sunni practices too, which they are not at all.
Nikah? You mean Islamic marriage?
@@jantheslovakmuslim no its pleasure nikah which is temporary marriage
@@jantheslovakmuslim mutah nikah is when a man marries a woman for a short period then leaves its like lets say a halalified prostitution the shia see it as a part of their islam.In-fact it is one of the talking points that people like david wood use
@@jantheslovakmuslim he's talking about mutah, which is a temporary marriage that Shias do.
@@jantheslovakmuslim He is talking About Mutah marriage{temporary marriage}. This Pagan Practics Was Exist In Shias. Also Mutah marriage didn't came from islam. it was always exist before islam. pagan arabs used to practics this. islam removed this pagan practics but shias continued for long time.
Shias are muslims, and its very unfair to call them kafir, when they worship Allah and follow quran. They follow 12 islamic scholars ,all grand sons of prophet muhammed (pbuh) , what is the problem with that? I think before spreading false information and calling millions of muslim brothers and sisters kafir you have to go and read books from both sides. I also suggest you travel to countries like iran to see whether you find them kafirs or muslims with diffrent view points than yours in minor topics, not in things like tawhid. May Allah guide us all.
Well you can't call yourself a Muslim and pray 3 times a day or combine your prayers bro :) Sorry but that's not Islam that's another religion.
@@jantheslovakmuslim Actually learn about us before you make comments like this, we pray 5 daily prayers, SOME shia, NOT ALL, pray asr after duhr and asha after magrib (not combined together in one prayer). You are going to call all shia kaffir because they pray 5 times a day, and SOME of them have the prayers close together? What is your proof that they cannot be close together in time huh? if your gonna bring up hadiths we have hadiths too
"sorry but thats not islam", yeah your right its not islam for us to pray 5 times a day just like you idiot 🙄
When you face god on judgement day he will hold you accountable for all these comments that you make. so I suggest that you do more research before saying extreme stuff like. You lot say that us cursing sahaba will get us into hell, well, if you cursing muslim brothers and sisters by calling them kaffirs will you not also end up in hell?
Just know, that even if one of your comments is wrong, your videos are watched by thousands and you are getting sin for spreading misinformation, i would be careful about that
@@jantheslovakmuslimAre you out of your mind? Sunnis combine their prayers in travelling the same way Shias do, and shorten it.
Before judging a sect followed by millions, you ought to learn arabic and islamic jurisprudence from all the madhahib (schools of thought).
You're gonna cast judgement on these people when you read a translation of the Qur'an and not even in it's original language 😅. Humble yoruself and start by learning from books not watching YT videos.
People dedicate their lives to this stuff. A YT video isn't gonna cut it.
@@jantheslovakmuslim Muslim Sunni Arab here. To say that Shia are not muslim is very difficult, especially since there are at least 20 different sect inside Shias, not all Shia believe in the same things like not all believe in the 12 Imams. Some sects even worship Ali but again it's inaccurate to generalize about all Shia and call them Kafir. Sunni scholars have this opinion so it's not my own claim.
I can even say even Sunni Islam there are many different sects too (Sufism for example) that have Bidaa (inventions in Islam) too and some leading to Kufr like what Some Sufis do when they worship their Sheikh.
Our position in Sunnism is that we acknowledge that Ali and Hussein suffered from injustice from Muawiyah and his son but still we respect both sides and worship God only just like Prophet Mohammad did. It's good to know the story to learn who was right and who was wrong but that's it, these events have happened 1400 years ago and we have no benefit to argue about what happened to them, we want to unite the Ummah not to divide it. Sunni and Shia agree on the basics, if Shia were Kafir the Sunni would ban them from Pilgrimage (Hajj) because Kafirs are not allowed in Mecca. This is where we should apply tolerence and acceptance of others because of differences. A muslim remains a muslim until proven otherwise. there is nothing wrong about proclaiming others as Kafir (if done correctly) but Khawarij love to label anyone who doesn't agree with them as Kafir just like when they proclaimed Ali as Kafir. We muslims need to unite regardless of sects, not spend time to proclaim each other as kafir amd kill each other because of that.
I am happy that you converted to Islam dear brother, I just found your channel. greetings from Morocco ❤
@@jantheslovakmuslim what did you do to accept Islam? It's only 2 statements, which you tell and you are accepted as a muslim. It is that simple.
Fun fact, Iran was a Sunni land ...Persians were Sunni, and many Sunni scholars came from Persian origins.
Persians were forced to convert to Shisim, BY FORCE, in the 15th century by the Safavid Dynasty, whom of Turkic and Persian origin from Baku (current day Azerbaijan).
@cascarrabias397 NO!
@@PraetorAkin a 100%
Fun Fact all the Persians converted to Islam by force at the beginning ( Islam spread by Violence and sword )
@@ehsanshinobi lmaooo
Fun fact, iraqi and syrian were all shia Muslims, but Salauddin killed them and forced sunnism to them
The best book I read on this issue was "The Heirs of the Prophet Muhammad and Roots of the Sunni-Shia Schism" by Barnaby Rogerson. He is very respectful to Islam and explores the issues from both authentic Sunni and Shia sources.
Politically I would identify with Shia people and fight for Hussein RA. However, theologically, Sunni Islam makes more sense to me. Shia theology gave too much weight to the imams that most of them claim the imams are needed for intercession, which to me is very similar to praying to Jesus instead of the "Father".
I have said for 10 years almost that my heart is Sunni but I have huge soft spot for early struggles of Prophet Muhammad's family. It's after reading that book I softened my stance on Shia people. Historically they were considered Muslims. All the early scholars allowed them to attend Hajj.
Why do you bring politics into this? I was a Christian and then Atheist and now I'm a Muslim. I don't care about my history, politics or culture. I just follow the truth. The truth is not in Shiism.
@jantheslovakmuslim I agree. Shia of the ancient past followed identical theological beliefs to the sunnis. The difference was just political.
The current Shia sects are more problematic in regards to their theology and a lot of their beliefs are alien to Islam in general. However the only current group closer to sunnis are the zaydis in Yemen.
The modern shias make accusations against prophet's companion umair of breaking Ali's door. They have no evidence and the chain of narrations are either very weak or forged.
@@jantheslovakmuslim
When I said "politically", I meant that if I lived in 680CE, I would have had my full support behind Hussain (RA).
I would have supported him financially, spiritually, etc as a random civilian, and would be outraged if he were murdered.
But spiritually (my faith, understanding of God) would similar to the Oneness of God now with direct connection through prayer. One thing I will say however is that I do not accept modern Saudis saying Shias are not Muslim. Every Caliph (Umayyads, Abbassids, Ottomans) and scholar from the beginning of time allowed Shia to attend and perform Hajj which is for Muslims only. I don't think it's fair to compare with them with Ahmadiyyas who clearly claim there is a new prophet 200 years ago.
im palestinian sunni but a direct al-husseini so i have the same exact feeling
@@jantheslovakmuslimshiism is not the truth but calling them non muslims is a bit too much. You are watching to much weirdos
"That was a community that had already gone before. For them is what they earned and for you is what you have earned. And you will not be accountable for what they have done." [Quran 2:134]
I just want to say to you brother don’t claim everything cuz you might regret in the future just mark my words here.
The prophet saww said Hussain is me and I am from Hussain.
Weak hadith 😉
@@الحقيقةالمغيبة-خ9خ حسين مني وأنا من حسين ، أحب الله من أحب حسيناً، الحسين سبط من الأسباط. رواه أحمد والترمذي وابن ماجه وابن حبان والحاكم، وصححه الحاكم، ووافقه الذهبي والألباني.
Lier
Don't argue with them brother they make those hadiths strong which claim their believes and reject those hadiths which don't claim their beliefs so just love imam hussain(as) as Allah and his messenger did and don't argue with these people @@Sasori.OfTheRedSand
There is Maula Ali AS brother of our beloved Prophet, husband of the women leader in paradise. Father of the youth leader in heaven, the mountain of knowledge n there is muaviya on the other side, who used to make imams of masjids to curse upon Ali from the pulpit through wrong n makeup Hadith.
There is Hussain, leader of youngsters in heaven n there is yazeed on the other side .
Its not that difficult to understand who was right n who was wrong.
It was not political fight. It was about religion. Muaviya n party manipulated Hadith n Quran for their benefit.
Yazaid killed the Holy grandson of the Holy prophet Imam Hussain
Note that during the Shia dynasties like the Fatimids, most of the population was still Sunni. Even if they promoted Shiism to some extent, the populations remained Sunni.
A notable exception is the late Safavid in current Iran who converted the population with coercion. Their goal was to make a political entity to rival the Sunni ottomans and therefore it was important for them to create a different "religious identity". And that's basically how we get modern Iran.
source: Trust me
@@syedbaqir2687 here I asked chatgpt:
"While the Fatimid domain was primarily a Shia realm, it should be noted that the majority of the population under their rule remained Sunni. The Ismaili Shia rulers were often in the minority, ruling over a Sunni majority."
And for the second part:
"Historically, majority Shia populations have been primarily located in specific regions of the Islamic world. Some of the regions or territories that had significant or majority Shia populations in the past (and many still do) include:
Persia (Modern-day Iran): After the Safavid Dynasty took power in the 16th century, they began a program of converting the largely Sunni population to Shia Islam. Today, Iran remains the country with the world's largest Shia population.
Southern Iraq: Cities like Najaf and Karbala have historically been... "
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@syedbaqir2687
I am Palestinian and Czech Shi'i, btw. I invite all Europeans to Islam and Shi'a Islam is not expansionist and would have invited Europe more effectively and not militaristically like the Turks who scared Europe away from the religion. This was Allah's will but the future is with Iran and its allies.
The Prophet(sawas) was an Arab and he stated that the Persians will have the Greatest Share in Islam. This means that their Islam will have the greatest impact and this is not by numbers it is by quality and Shi'a has a spiritual quality that has been lost to Saudi influenced modern Sunni Salafism.
The Family of the Prophet and love for them purify the religion without needing to nitpick at details as the spirit of the Prophet remained with them.
May Allah open your heart up more Jan, you have entered the small gardens of paradise on Earth spiritually and for your hereafter In sha Allah through Sunni Islam, once you embrace the true Shia Islam you will be granted paradise among the Ahlulbayt right behind the greatest human and soul that ever existed, our most Holy prophet SAW. Forget the beating yourself up and all that extraterrestrial stuff, we’re talking jurisprudence, theology, virtues, imaan and most importantly understanding a little more of the true oneness of the Most High and Most Benevolent, Allah SWT! The best way to embrace Shia Islam is to keep digesting the Islamic history through all but most especially unbiased sources of accurate history. I know you dared to conclude that Shias aren’t Muslim (being so new to the religion and very one sided I can understand that) I would never be able to claim that a true Sunni is not a Muslim as I just know for certain they follow the 5 fundamentals but that’s a very basic Muslim requirement. Anyone can be a Muslim if they follow these fundamentals but not everyone can be mo’min (true believer and own who truly submits his will to Allah)
It’s not true, Shias are as Muslim as Sunni. By definition As long as one believes in one god and the prophet Muhammed as a last prophet the person is Muslim. Shia Sunni division was of political nature.
So if I believe that the Imam can raise the dead and see past and future, I guess that makes me Sunni too yh?
Anyone who curses the sahaba is a disbeliever..doesnt matter what else the beliefs would be..
I'm ex sunni now me shia is real islam alhamdulillah ☝️💚
May God grant you His satisfaction and the service of Muhammad and his family, and may He unite you with Imam Hussein in Paradise. May God grant you the service of Hussein and the visit of the Ahl al-Bayt, peace be upon them.
Shia is very wrong may Allah guide you
@@merxho95 are you god? how do you know?
Go and figure out the correct way to pray first before commenting 😂
You lot have over 5 different variations whilst we pray in one agreed upon way (which some sunni sects also use)
U act like u replicate the prophets life yet you cant agree on the basic fundamentals (prayer)
Also, sunni hadiths claim that the shaytan ran away from umar because he was scared of him. So the shaytan wasnt scared of PROPHET abaraham when he had to sacrifice his son, and he wasnt scared of GOD when he disobeyed his orders and didn't bow to adam but he was scared of Umar 😂😂😂. goes to show how wild some of your hadiths are.
If there was no quran you idiots would make umar the prophet from how much u idolise him 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@merxho95 they're not. your upbringing, your heart and ur brainwashed brain is wrong. maybe don't listen to people and actually research and believe in things from ur sight?? would be beneficial for u.
I'm shocked how ignorant and brainwashed Muslims are
go look at event of Kisa and Mubahila. If you're not a Shia after that you're not following Islam
Do you know even what Islam means bro? No real Muslim would ever say such a statement. Do you not fear Allah?
@@jantheslovakmuslim if you're the denying the ones who the Holy Prophet considered his Ahlul Bayt, or undermining his Ahlul Bayt you will have nothing bro
@@jantheslovakmuslim "no real muslim will would ever say such a statement" ... what we arent allowed to tell you to look at sources and hadiths now 😂😂😂
Everytime someone recommends a source for you to look into you attack them with "are you a muslim", "do you fear allah", are you too scared to look at the sources and be proven wrong?
Never seen such a hypocrite in my life
Umer denied to give paper to prophet saww that means he refused the command of prophet and allah said in quran whoever has made mulu prophet unhappy has made me unhappy..
that is why abulolloah sent him to hell
Most scholars consider Shias as Muslims because we all agree on core beliefs.
Not at all it depends.
12 or she'uh in lran belief in praying to 12 gods before Allah.
Some l3n sahaba making them.non Muslim per Quran 48.29.
Some say Fatima is a prophet like komeini said.
Some say Quran is incomplete like Khoe said.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543🤣🤣🤣your a bad liar go repent
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Please stop dividing. There is no Sunni or Shia but Muslim only pls.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 This is just false if you are going to make accusations of shirk say what you have seen not what you like to believe you have seen. The truth is Shias have never prayed to anyone before Allah unless if you are regarding extremists such as alawites etc... I don't blame you, there are many more who like to create lies on both side to make them seem worse than they are.
@@opax It's always the other read around though. Shias almost never do takfeer of our sunni brothers when it comes to theology. It's mostly the theories of Ibn Taymiyah that have radicalized sunni islam. Hence why those of Shafi'i and Maliki schools aren't as ardent in their takfeer as hanbali and hanafi...
Some shias realizing their aqidah is wrong are starting to embrace Sunni view and are reverting back to the real teachings of our deen...
elhamdulilah there are a lot of them
@Mosaab twice Sahabas aren't infallible. Our duty is to respect and honour them.
@Mosaab twice Every soul will be paid for their deeds. We should be worry about our faith and Imaan first, rather than insinuating or hurling epithets.
Speaking bad or being sarcastic to companions or to anyone will only make you bad in the eyes of Allah. Allah is sufficient and is knower of all the things.. Wait for the Judgement day!!!
@Mosaab twice Shias abuse the Sahabas and the Mother of believers, Shias do acts of Biddat and sometimes even shirk. Shias are liars. They make up stories and twist hadiths to cater to their propoganda.
Majority of Shias ancestors (especially Persians and Azerbaijanis) were Sunnis before 1500 CE.
Crazy how you learned about shiism from sunnis! Definetly not biased at all
I learned about Shia by isran war crimes in my country Syria!
5:05 it is a fake hadith brother , don't you know that that prophet (PBUH ) often mentioned the likeliness of Prophet Moses & Haroon (PBUT) to himself and Imam Ali ....
I hate this when a sunni says shias aren't Muslim or when shia says sunnis aren't Muslim. Guys we share one book,one god,one prophet,and 80 percent of our teachings are the same,so we shouldn't do this to ourselves,we are the nation of prophet that's all that matters
I as a sunni believe that Ali was the best among Abu Bakr ,Umar , Usman
May Allah guide you my dear, you are going towards the right path
The exploration of Shia beliefs extends beyond a brief video clip; it delves into deeper complexities. I strongly recommend relying exclusively on Shia sources to gain insights into their perspectives. As an Arab Shia amidst Arab Sunnis, I've observed a significant amount of distortion and misinformation, not limited to platforms like TH-cam or TikTok. Ibn Taymiyyah, a prominent Sunni scholar, presents inaccurate details in his book aimed at refuting Shia beliefs-details that are not just misleading but also strangely amusing. The fact that a leading Sunni scholar disseminates information in such a manner raises questions about the reliability of other sources. Consider that a substantial cause of Sunni-Shia discord, involving the labeling of Shia as infidels, revolves around the concept of association (Shirk). This judgment is built upon misleading and false information, like the assertion that Shia invoke the Prophet's family alongside Allah and worship them. While they may claim that Shia harbor resentment toward the Prophet's wife and companions, the underlying reasons for this sentiment often remain unexplained. The prevalence of falsehoods and deceit among their top scholars underscores the necessity of approaching the search for information with complete impartiality, as the people of truth do not resort to deception.
The Shiites are infidels who believe in distorting the Qur’an and insulting the companions and wives of the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace. They believe in worshiping graves (asking for needs from the dead), and they believe in temporary marriage (possibly half an hour!) and they give 20% of their money annually to those with black turbans
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@@الحقيقةالمغيبة-خ9خ The filthy woman aisha waged war against Imam Ali, how pious is that? 😂
Moses 12 tribes. Jesus 12 deciples. Muhammad 12 imams. Go figure !!!!!
Shia belief
@@fathiyamaalin8849 so?
@@fathiyamaalin8849 shia are real muslims
Genesis " from Ishmael the son of Abraham peace be upon them there would be a great nation and 12 princes or leaders ." Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him is a descendant of prophet Ishmael both lived by the mountains of Faran in the Arabian peninsula. So the 12 princes from Ishmael are the same 12 Imams the chosen descendants from the bloodline of prophet Mohammed peace be upon them. If you keep researching you will become Shia.
@@gndggqsq-rp5rj...DEFINITELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM
There’s a reason why a disproportionately high percentage of “ex muslims” are from Shia backgrounds
never. lmaooo it's only few iranian young population they just want to dress revealingly so they left islam. no real shia leaves his beliefs! never. it's always sunnis. so many indian muslims are ex muslims now same goes for arab countries, morocco, algeria, tunisia and Türkiyə!
@@fatima.x11 Vast majority of the shias who settle in the west abandon their religion. It's like around 90%. Sunnis don't have such records.
@@juxtapositionMS is it so? I've many shia friends living in sweden, uk, canada etc. they're very firm and steadfast in their faith. may Allah make it easy for everyone and keep everyone steafast on our religion - all shias and sunnis!
Where do grab that statistic, from your magicians hat 😅
@@juxtapositionMSVast majority of people who resettle in the west abandon their culture and assimilate, look at their children, they drink, hook up and eat haram food.
I hope in your research you could find the differences, not political, but Shia is a different religion than Islam
@mosaabtwice3999 anyone says Qur'an is corrupted is not Muslim. What is Wahhabism? What do they believe? If you can provide me with one subject and one reference please like this :
-what Shia believes in Qur'an, reference, his book al-Imam al-Sadiq that Muhammad bin Ya'qub al-Kulayni (a hadith recorder, died in 329 AH), recorded in his book "Usul al-Kafi" that the Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq said that the Qur'an which was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad contained seven thousand verses, while the verses we read in the Qur'an are only 6262. The rest is treasured by the members of the House of the Prophet ...
There are alot of other topics make Shia out of Islam. But believing in the corruption of the Qur'an makes anyone out of Islam, with no arguments.
@mosaabtwice3999 I never said you saba ai , my reference is from top Shia scholar. I made quick search about Wahhabi and they started in 1700 to 1800 .. that's 200 years ago 😂 .. why did you mention them with me? You need to provide me with reference from their books to consider your information. Anyway it's not relevant as you are the only one talking about them here. Instead, explain for us your beliefs without mentioning others, that would be very helpful
@mosaabtwice3999 I already gave you reference from Al kafi book and imam Al sadik claiming Qur'an is not completed. Above 😂
It's ok my friend, there are too many religions and everyone choose.. at the end of the day.. you and I have different beliefs.. if you are true then I am not Muslim if I am true then you are not Muslim. But we are not the same. End of the comment
@Mosaab twice
Shiaism is not islam.
Shia is one sect, not Islam.
If I was there, when our Prophet SAW was leaving the world, I would simply stand behind Bibi Fatima A S.
I totally agree with your sentiment about the analogy of Christianity and Shiism where they centered around a powerful theme to attract people emotionally. With Christianity is the theme of sacrifice and with Shiism is the theme of Injustice/Tyranny.
I totally get what happened in Karbala is horrible and evil and no doubt these "Muslims" perpetrator will be judged accordingly in Akhirah. But I don't think its worth to modify the core Theology. I think in Shiism, the pillar of Islam has another point which is Imamat. But, I have to say that we can't say Shia Muslims are not Muslims. And they are also allowed to do Hajj since the beginning of the movement until now. I see it as a branching political sect with different jurisprudence.
With Ahmadiyya its different because the core theology is the pretty similar I think, but the change the eschatology in big way. They don't believe in Jesus as Messiah, because they believe the the founder of the movement is the incarnation of that (and not actually a prophet), which is vastly different than mainstream SunShiaeschatology. There are differences as well, but that's the major difference. And personally see follower Ahmadiyya as misguided Muslims.
Brother, no hurt feelings, but it isn't just about "what happened in Karbala is horrible and evil and no doubt these "Muslims" perpetrator will be judged accordingly in Akhirah.", its what happened in karbala and what took place afterwards starting from that point. Additionally, there are some Sunnis who actually consider the "Muslim" perpetrators you talk about as a gateway to heaven, whole ideas were created around it as well.
As to what happened after the battle of Karbala, with the start of the ummayad caliphate and all the caliphate that came after, they slaughtered Shia Muslims in the thousands, whole towns were decimated, all over the globe, it was so easy to come up with decrees considering Shia Muslims and rival Sunni dynasties as kaffirs thus making their blood permissible to spill, Shia Muslims were sold as slaves to Non-Muslim empires, the Shia of China for example, they burned Shia libraries and books, they executed Shia scholars for pity stuff, and the most important part is, their attacks on Prophet Mohammad Grandsons never ceased after the Battle of Karbala, they became worse, the ummayads and the abbasids are attributed to the killing of the majority of Prophet Mohammad Grandsons, after the Battle of karbala, were all exiled, to the furthest reaches of the empires, to people that do not understand Arabic, which explains why there are shrines for them all the way to China, and when they failed to silence them, they murdered them, go look what killed all the 12 Imams of the Shia, all of them were poisoned.
BUt things did not end here, despite Shia Muslims fending off against the crusaders and even the mongols, you had Sunni scholars lie and conjure claims such as Shia Muslims helped the crusaders, Shia Muslims helped the mongols, creating excuse to spill the blood of Shia, Shia Muslims had to endure Crusader, Mongol and Sunni Muslims persecution. In the modern day, upon the creation of the countries and modern borders, Shia Muslims in areas were they are a majority, were never considered into anything, Shia Muslims were split and glued to countries without a say in the matter, Shia Muslim history was silenced and obscured, Government History books while talking about the history of Christians, Jews and Sunnis extensively, treat Shia history as if they are not part of history at all, an attempt to make the Shia youth forget, in most modern day countries Shia Muslims were also neglected by the Governments, attempts by Arab Shia to get closer to Arab Sunnis and help in the Arab revolt was always met with scepticism, it reached to a point where while Shia Muslims in the Levant were volunteering in the Arab army to fend off against the French invasion, these fools had time in that critical moment to make a meeting to decide whether Shia Muslims are real Arabs or not, and guess what, they considered them non-Arabs.
And now, while the USA-Israel are bombing Shia areas and people are dying, some Sunnis have the audacity to come and claim they are theatrics, they are a lie, aiding them even by saying that.
This is the history of Shia Muslims, it's not just a mere, ooooh, Karbala happened, big deal.
Ali just wanted to preserve islam that's why he didn't take any actions
All the Companions رضى الله عنهم ورضوا عنه of the Prophetﷺ, Ahl al Bayt, رضى الله عنهم ورضوا عنه.
Brother you must read the formal viewpoint of the 'Ahl as Sunnat Wal Jamaat' and understand that through the mainstream Ulema of the 14 centuries..
To talk ill of any of the above-mentioned people would destroy your Eemaan, ALLAH forbids.
May ALLAH keep us all on the right path.
Iran and Azerbaijan wasnt shia also, they were forced by sword by the savafids, there is a lot of backstory
Habibi The "ahlul sunnah" spread the "message" of islam by sword across asia and north Africa
@@alial-azawi5470 they didnt force them to convert though, the shia literally killed many people because they didnt want to become shia
@@yasinibrahim akhi islam was spread by the sword. It was forced upon people by means of war
@@yasinibrahimsureeeeeeeeee
@@yasinibrahimthen explain to me what is alftooohat ?
a note to myself too, always pray to Allah for His guidance... inshaaAllah Allah guide us to his straight path
Why was meeting arranged without the Ali's presence
Because when ali was at funeral of prophet the only thing those people thought about was how to replace prophet and that show how much they cared for their prophet!
I find it funny that the clear proclamation of our exalted prophet (peace be upon him and his household) is dismissed, because the people think abu bakr and umar are more suitable, because of their age and experience even when Imam Ali (peace be upon him) was more knowledgeable than both of them together.
Age means nothing
The Shiites are infidels who believe in distorting the Qur’an and insulting the companions and wives of the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace. They believe in worshiping graves (asking for needs from the dead), and they believe in temporary marriage (possibly half an hour!) and they give 20% of their money annually to those with black turbans
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You should do more research my brother and you wil find that the shia's are very proud MUSLIMS
Sunni books are filled with thier actions but they are too ignorant to look 😅
Yes and the fact that ali (as) family been killed while ur sahaba wanted the power for they own blood
As a shia myself I noticed this pattern of misunderstanding among reverts and even our Sunni brothers about Tawheed in Shia ideology ,
Quran Tell Us martyrs are always Alive
Quran 2:154 states: “Do not say regarding those who are slain in the path of God that they are dead; rather they are alive but you are not aware.”
Quran 3:169 states: “Do not consider as dead those who are slain in the path of God; rather they are alive and well-provided for in the presence of their Lord.”
And The 12 Imams in Shia ideology all got assassinated by the enemies of Islam (Except for Imam Mahdi who will Return with christ)
so basically asking Them them to pray to Allah for us (In the shrine of imam Hussain or imam Ali ) is basically the same as Asking a brother in Mosque who sat next to Us to pray for us
Because the martyrs in the path of Allah are alive according to Quran
And Of course asking a Highly respected brother in faith who's a part of Prophet's family and is not dead according to Quran is not a shirk because That's almost what all Muslims do every year in the holy month of Ramadan, Asking other Muslims for prayers to Allah for them
But I don't like what your culture doing on the ashura day, your people beat themselves with sword at the body it's forbidden in Islam to harm themselves.
@@unknown7042 every muslim knows that Islam forbids any Harm to body
Tattoos as well to the point that Even scholars forbid fasting in Ramadan if it would harm one’s body told by a doctor, I think you’re Generalizing a Little percentage of Shia muslims to the whole , Me growing up as shia I never Saw those People do that ( what you meant ) in public
A minority do and They’re extremists which are out of religion less that 10% but Most of population don’t do that , 90%
Please don’t generalize shia population like that, I can understand where that mindsets comes from , It’s because of propaganda against Shias on media who are The main supporters of resistance in Palestine,Syria and Lebanon , Israel is afraid of Shia Ideology so they Have done and still Do anything to ruin The image of shia both Internationally and Among Iranians themselves
That's exactly what Christians say. We believe in God but we just ask Mother Marry to pray for us :) Same thing. Shirk. Ali RA is dead. The Quran is talking about Akhira. Same as any other prophet or martyr. They are dead but they're alive in Akhira bro. That's the meaning of the verse. Not that they can help you in any way. Or where did you get the idea of asking them for help? :)
@@jantheslovakmuslim
Everyone is alive after death in Akhira not only martyrs
Then what were the point of Quran having a special Verse only for martyrs in the path of Allah (not ordinary People like me and You)
not only one verse but Two
There’s definitely A reason for it as Quran is the Truth and there’s a reason for everything in it
@@Hussaini_Nation Nobody can help us only Allah can. You must doubt His power and might. Those ppl who have passed cannot hear or support you. You need to stop behaving like Christians
Whoever says there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his servant and messenger and accepts the Quran is a Muslim. Salafis can say whatever they want. That doesnt make it true.
Shia s are Muslim the word Shia means partie the main word is Shi'at al Ali mean party of Ali (May Allah be pleased with him)
In common sense there is no Shia no Sunni there is only Muslim because we believe in Allah and his messagener Muhammad (PBUH)
If Abu Bakr was the first muslim he wouldve used such a high merit when he was getting elected and he wouldve mentioned it but he never mentioned himself being the first muslim( which belongs to Imam Ali(as). First muslim thing came after his death. Also If youre concerned about sects, then Abu Bakr and Umar were the first to create a sect when they elected themselves and ruled with violence 1 example(death of malik ibn muwayrah). They can elect who becomes the khalifah but the prophet who brang the religion cannot?? Open your minds brothers the same prophet who would leave madinah for 2 days would leave someone in charge, now hes leaving forever and would leave the muslims to decide.???
Fantastic video keep it up you're doing amazing things... 👍😁
It's very easy for someone whose belief is not emotionally driven to put two and two together. Unfortunately, there are Arabs today who speak the language of the Quran and still follow the innovative sect of Shiism which believes in grave veneration and asking the dead for help, thereby apposing everything the Quran stands for. This confirms, yet again, that it is not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts. Subhanallah💚
crazy stuff
As a shia myself I noticed this pattern of misunderstanding among reverts and even our Sunni brothers about Tawheed in Shia ideology ,
Quran Tell Us martyrs are always Alive
Quran 2:154 states: “Do not say regarding those who are slain in the path of God that they are dead; rather they are alive but you are not aware.”
Quran 3:169 states: “Do not consider as dead those who are slain in the path of God; rather they are alive and well-provided for in the presence of their Lord.”
And The 12 Imams in Shia ideology all got assassinated by the enemies of Islam (Except for Imam Mahdi who will Return with Jesus)
so basically asking Them them to pray to Allah for us (In the shrine of imam Hussain or imam Ali ) is basically the same as Asking a brother in Mosque who sat next to Us to pray for us
Because the martyrs in the path of Allah are alive according to Quran
And Of course asking a Highly respected brother in faith who's a part of Prophet's family and is not dead according to Quran is not a shirk because That's almost what all Muslims do every year in the holy month of Ramadan, Asking other Muslims for prayers to Allah for them
@@Hussaini_Nation You can’t ask family members of today to do something for you. They don’t have that power. Ask Allah. You just don’t understand what actual tawheed is.
@@Hussaini_Nation This is shirk. When a person passes they are gone, they do not hear you nor benefit you unless you see the prophet (pbuh) in your dreams. You must NEVER ask them for help. You can only ask Allah. This is the same old mistakes humans make which is why other religions turned into what they are today. Don’t do this to Islam.
@@Hussaini_Nation I just don’t understand shias. What makes your religion different from Christianity or Hinduism if you’re completely corrupting the monotheistic aspect? It’s not just believing in one God. You must act as if you believe in one God. If you’re asking deceased humans for help you don’t truly believe in one God.
Apart from the biddahs created by shias in shia sect, their political stance against muawaiya and yazid was correct.
Ali tried to punish Uthman's murderers but it wasn't clear who did it. Secondly, Muawiya rebelled against a rashidun caliph which was itself an act of kufr, finally the killing of Imam Hussain and Hassan (by poison) was simply outrageous. They were the red line of literally all muslims back then, be it sunni or shia.
Also, every single member of the Ahl Al Bait was killed by some way after Karbala too so all decendents of Muhammad PBUH were killed upto the 11th imam who left no male decendents..
As a shia. You just seem to be very superficial in your knowledge even if we take sunni sources into account. I invite you to read Shia pov's without bias and then decide for yourself
I don't have a bias. I'm a revert bro. Shiism is not Islam. It's not what the prophet taught
@@jantheslovakmuslim
If you are trying to understand shia then learn from a shia source not from Sunni source.
What if a person learn about Jews from Christian.?
@@jantheslovakmuslim You are extremely biased, in an earlier comment you said that you havent studied about shia from primary sources 😂 but you studied about sunni, that screams bias.
You dont even have to read shia texts, your original authenticated sunni hadiths have contradictions, so just looking at them will show you the lies
"its not what the prophet taught" - how would you know if you have never read a primary source about shia 🙄
What makes you believe that sunni are closer to what the prophet taught when they cant even pray the same 😂
Omar Ibn Khattab, the founder of the Sunni religion was gay 🏳️🌈
Your comment says a LOT about who YOU ARE!
Mind you're toungue, you fool.
Masya Allah brother; apparently you have more knowledge on this matter compared to the video itself...!
After the death of the Holy Prophet (pbuh&f), people belonging to the Ansar (helpers) gathered at a place called Saqifa to elect a leader. It is not clear as to what that leader was for as Ansar by themselves couldn’t have elected a caliph as the Muhajireen (migrant) would have never agreed to such an outcome.
Umar was informed of this meeting and he immediately went to the house of the Prophet where the Prophet’s body was being prepared for the burial. He called out Abu Bakr and together, they took Abu Obaida with them. Who gave them the authority to attend this meeting on behalf of Muslims? After all, at that time, they were just like any other member of the community. And how is it that they did not take anyone else into their “confidence” except Abu Obaida as if they were on a secret mission?It so happened that the Ansar composed of 2 tribes (Aus and the Khazraj) who used to be at each other’s throat before the advent of Islam. And Umar used this to his advantage along with playing the Quraysh tribe card to then gather the votes in favour of Abu Bakr. As it is clear from the history of Saqifa, there was no mention of any Quranic verses or Prophet’s narrations used to justify this event. It was purely a political one where a group of 3 people belonging to Muhajireen (and in no way representing them) decided to take the decision upon themselves to appoint a caliph.
So, to conclude, Abu Bakr just manipulated the situation to his advantage to become the Caliph. All this, while the body of the Holy Prophet (pbuh&f) was being prepared for burial.
Mola Ali as was the most closets Campanian of prophet Muhammad Saww.. there's no doubt about it..
Not true that sunni Muslims dont consider Shia muslim as islam.....it is only wahabi of saudia who consider them as not muslim but all other muslim considers them muslim.
But they allow shia muslims to enter Mecca and Medina which means that they consider shias as muslims and they understand that they are muslims
You would NEVER have said that if you see iranian terrorists kill and kick Millions of Muslims from their homes in Syria and Iraq ONLY because they are Muslims! if you believe those who say bad things about Prophet Sala Allah aleh wa Salam and, and his family, or say that Quran is not complete, or kills Muslims in Syria and Iraq are Muslims, they you have issues my bro!
We need Unity in not only our inward beliefs but in our outward interaction with each other as an Ummah.
aSalaamu aleikum, brother Jan
Ishaq
Labaik YA HUSSAIN..
The Shiites are infidels who believe in distorting the Qur’an and insulting the companions and wives of the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace. They believe in worshiping graves (asking for needs from the dead), and they believe in temporary marriage (possibly half an hour!) and they give 20% of their money annually to those with black turbans.
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No Sunni No Shia but ONE ISLAM❤
You would NEVER have said that if you see iranian terrorists kill and kick Millions of Muslims from their homes in Syria and Iraq ONLY because they are Muslims! if you believe those who say bad things about Prophet Sala Allah aleh wa Salam and, and his family, or say that Quran is not complete, or kills Muslims in Syria and Iraq are Muslims, they you have issues my bro!
I am shia's muslim
Hope you do more like these videos
Thanks
Shia are the true Muslims
He is a new Revert, it's understandable that he doesn't know everything about shia muslims yet. I hope Allah guides him on his journey.@@Shia.Ahlulbayt
@@Shia.Ahlulbayt If he did that then he is an Igonarant blind fool because It is shia who always come to Palestinians and al aqsa protection. Where are his wahabi and sunni friends?
This Video only analyzes the split according to academic sources. In reality this is much more complicated. Please read muslim sources later to confirm its validity.
May God show u right path
Islam did not "split". Only a group of people from one region chose to split.
Reasoning abilities help the most in difficult times. Tawheed is the essence of Islam, and whatever goes against it is totally rejected regardless of the details (no matter how sad they look)
Narrated 'Amr bin Al-As:
The Prophet deputed me to read the Army of Dhat-as-Salasil. I came to him and said, "Who is the most beloved person to you?" He said, " 'Aisha." I asked, "Among the men?" He said, "Her father." I said, "Who then?" He said, "Then 'Umar bin Al-Khattab." He then named other men.
Sahih bukhari
22:35 yes brate you hit the nail on the head. A lot of Iranians are actually moving away from (forced) Ithna'asharism for many many decades now and sadly going to Atheism or western Christianity
Sad part of being sunni
Sunni narrative:
1. Prophet pbuh did not designate any successor And Defend the biddah of choosing a successor at saqifah.
2. Defend why ali and other companions didnt give allegiance to abubakr, while maintaining that ali was one of rashidun khilafa.
3. Defend position of abubakr on matter of fadak, while maintaining that fatima is leader of women of pradise.
4. Defend fleeing of umar and uthman in hunain , uhud, and hiding in khandaq while maintaining that they were more deserving of khilfah than ali.
5. Defending uthmans soft corner to his cousins( cursed marwan, muawiya, waleed) while maintaining he was one of rashidun
6. Defending uthmans deportation of abu dhar, maintaining abudhar was one of top most sahaba.
7. Defending aisha,zubair, talha in jamal while maintaining that they rebelled against rashid khalfah
8. Defending muawiya while maintaining he rebelled against last rashidun khalifa and used to curse him.
9. Defending muawiya while knowing he killed sahaba like hujr ibn adee, ammar.
10. Defending muawiya while he abrogated all conditions of peace treaty with hassan while maintaining that hassan is master of youth of paradise.
11. Defending nomination of yazeed by muawiya while maintaining that he was a tyrant and fasiq,
Shia narrative: Prophet pbuh appointed ali as successor, followed by hassan and hussain.
I would suggest you visit Iran and visit the other muslim countries. It will be enlightening inshAllah
No 😒
Are you Joking? iran kicked me and other 13 million Syrians from our home! why would we want to visit this terrorist state??????????
The Messenger and Quran comes first after Allah for both parties of Islam. We Shias just rather side with the messengers interpretation of Quran. Slandering the messenger’s companions, righteous or not is an act that the messenger did not preach.
I despise it when my Shia people does it but violence will not teach them in the best way.
Just realize that we do not know anyone besides the messenger’s household that knew more about the messenger and his interpretation, although the first 2 caliphs lived their lives in a humble way, we do not believe that they were closer to the messenger than Ali
6:59 who accepted Islam first Abubaker or Mola Ali(a.s.)?
Obviously, Hazrat Ali was the first person to embrace Islam after Hazrat Khadija (s.a.)
Ali
asking a man with a photo of a war criminal who killed many Muslims in Syria and Chechnya!
In real islam maula ali a.s ❤ is first in everything
The problem with Shia is that they elevated the prophet family to Godhood which is unIslamic even if they said they do not, they say Ya Ali instead of Ya Allah. About calling them non-muslims, thats a tough one, it is very hard to tell someone you are going to hell for sure, because he might lack the knowledge, but definitely their theology is non-islamic. Do you know what is funny ? Ali had two sons near the end, their names were Omar and Abu Baker ! And they dare to say the friends of the prophets were enemies !
Chapter 35:
(( He merges the night into the day and the day into the night, and has subjected the sun and the moon, each orbiting for an appointed term. That is Allah-your Lord! All authority belongs to Him. But those you invoke besides Him do not possess even the skin of a date stone (13) If you call upon them, they cannot hear your calls. And if they were to hear, they could not respond to you. On the Day of Judgment they will disown your worship ˹of them˺. And no one can inform you ˹O Prophet˺ like the All-Knowledgeable (14) ))
I didn't say they are going to hell. I said they might be considered non-Muslims. Only Allah can judge who ends up where. This means they don't submit to Allah and his messengar.
@@jantheslovakmuslimbrother that means identifying them as kafirs and only Allah can judge that. No one knows which one is speaking the truth
Allah has 99 names, it’s not a coincidence that one of them is Ali…ya Ali is exactly as ya Allah , ya qadir, ya Hay, ya Qyum…so you arE saying if Ali wasn’t names Ali and named Qayum, it would be shirk to say ya qayum ?? Astaghfirullah…Ali is also one of the names of Allah , so educate yourself
I would say they’re not Muslims if they worship humans. They might deny it but actions speak louder than words.
@@kordei-7839 ask any Shia who they worship. And what action are you talking about ? Educate yourself brother. Why are you buying yourself the hell fire? It’s not worth arguing about matters you don’t know and just heard from someone
And this müder story continued until 12 th Imam. I’m shia from Iran 🇮🇷
Brother, would you read a book
for more information “Then I was guided”. Its a short interesting read.
Brother I advise you to read both sunni and shia books , these videos are biased.
This might come harsh but I do believe it was Ali's place to lead after Omar, not Othman. When you read the Prophet's life (PBUH), Ali was with him at every stage. Ali is the first boy who became Muslim. He was like a brother to the Prophet. No matter how virtuous Othman was, it was Ali who should have been the caliph. After Othman I really can not believe how Muʿāwiya ibn Abī Sufyān thought he could precede Ali!? I just can not wrap my head around it. What Shia do not understand is that some Sunnis like myself hate Muʿāwiya and his descendants as much as they do. Abī Sufyān's son caused a political divide that would last for centuries and drive many people away from tawheed therefore practically putting them outside the fold of Islam.
Mu'awiya La'anatullah
Bro Jan, first of all Alhamdulellah you are a muslim now. But since you say that it involved a lot of research before you embraced Islam, you also need the same before you judge Shiasm. I advise you to read the history of Islam especially the " Fitnah" period in the aftermath of the prophet PBUH. This I believe will raise many questions and hopefully you yourself will find answers for those questions. May Allah guide you, me, and all muslims to Alserat Almustaqeem.
There are Shia reverts too- some were sunni for a few years n then upon further research became Shias.
Btw to lead, age is not a factor nor people’s choice- its divine appointment as people need to be lead in spiritual n religious matters that needs divine appointment inspiration n guidance.
Age is nothing.
The prophet SAWA said: I’m leaving with you two weighty things if you behold them you will never be misguided, the book of Allah(Quran) and my Ahlulbayt and they will not be separated. Guess who followed this will, and who did not!
If you look at the original Islamic world, primarily the Middle East, half the Muslims are Shi'a. This is significant because this is where the epicenter of our history past and present takes place.
The original video has lot of errors. JAN corrected most, mashaaAllah
It was narrated narrated by at-Tirmidhi: “I am leaving among you that which, if you hold fast to it, you will never go astray after I am gone, and one of the two is greater than the other: the Book of Allah, which is a rope extended from heaven to earth, and my family, the people of my household (ahl bayti). These two will never be separated until they come to me at the Cistern, so watch how you deal with them after I am gone.
The sad thing is that originally it was just the difference in politics and not in theology but eventually Shias developed their own set of beliefs. Do they not realise that if Allah wanted to make Ali(RA) the caliph after the prophet (SAW), Allah has the power to do so but he did not. So what is the point of arguing about that? Any Muslims should just stay away from Shias because they are so obsessed with humans instead of god. They are in a sense very similar to Christianity and they have shrines all over the place.
Allah wanted to test the people. To see who would have followed Imam Ali (as) or some drunk, runner from the battles named Umar. Its a test for you all. The Prophet left us with Qur'an and Ahlul-Bayt, we must stick to it
Allah makes whoever he wants to be Prophet or Imam. Allah also give his creation free will to accept or reject.
Their prophet told them, “Allah has appointed Saul to be your king.” They protested, “How can he be our king when some of us are more deserving of kingship than he, and he has not been blessed with vast riches?” He replied, “Allah has chosen him over you and blessed him with knowledge and stature. Allah grants kingship to whoever He wills. And Allah is All-Bountiful, All-Knowing.” 2:247
And when We told the angels, "Prostrate yourselves before Adam!" -they all prostrated themselves, save Iblis, who refused and gloried in his arrogance: and thus he became one of those who deny the truth 2:34
Or, is it that they are jealous of people over what Allah has given them of His bounty, while We have given to the House of Ibrāhīm the Book and the wisdom, and We have given to them a great kingdom? 4:54
Just to make somethiing clear about you and me. Allah doesnt feed us with silver spoons, u need to strive just a little bit. When Allah gave us the Quran, and the last prophet. How the rest of the story is unfolding for every individual, is based on free will and wisdom, the era of miracles is long gone.. it is the era of logic and reasoning. If Allah would directly publish to the world, that Ali as. is the one we shall follow, our inner selves would never be apparent to us. Just like the story of Iblis, this dude really prayed to Allah for thousands of years.. not until this one simple test. Allah asked him to prostrated in front of Adam as and he didnt.. now Allah said that he was one of the kafirs already... So you tell me? Allah didnt really need to do that did he? to make iblis and the rest of the creation prostrate, but he had a motive.. he was going to map out his inner world in front of him, jealously, self centrism and so on.
You may have not heard that there are many hadiths which tell the story of Ali being betrayed after the prophet by those fake caliphs pretending to protect islam, Ali bin abu Talib was appointed by the prophet according the very trusted hadith u shared in the vid 5:00 where the prophet appointed Ali as his successor in front of thousands of people, only to be very few people showing up at Ali’s house after the prophet’s death. Ali is still the god’s prophet’s caliph no matter what people do they will never change this fact
There is well written book called ‘After the Prophet’ written by Leslie Hazelton a secular Jew on the origins of the Sunni Shia split so she in theory has no ‘axe to grind’. The book seems more sympathetic to the Shia narrative. I do agree the Shia position is inconsistent at times but I don’t believe anyone should call them ‘Kafir’ or ‘non-Moslem’. They do over emphasise certain aspects regarding the family of the Prophet (Pbuh) but many Sunnis often skirt over the problematic issues that arise so soon after the demise of the Prophet (PBUH) (such as the tragedy of Kerbala). Some self-reflection is needed on both sides I think.
At that time Abu bakrs father was also alive
If the sunni veiw is right then why Abu Bakr
Why not is old Father😅
haha what a dumb argument :)
You are very smart my brother, you chose the right side .
@mosaabtwice3999 you are following me from post to another brov, do you know me? If you read the title of the video better than reading my comments, trust me you will learn a lot in this life.
I know you are Shia and you are boiling 😂 keep boiling my friend,
Let's wait and watch the video.
@mosaabtwice3999 nothing really complicated.. religion shouldn't be complicated as you assume.
You mentioned Muawiah ,
The Battle of the Masts or Battle of Phoenix (dhat Al sawari) first Muslim naval battle was by Muawiah , against Byzantine empire. This is historical fact.
Can you name one person from your people who made something for Islam? Name one person convert to islam because of your Dawa?? All your religion is about claiming the Qur'an is corrupted and the prophet's wife and companions are bad people. Islam is not Ali or Muawiah .
@Mosaab twice
Where is your evidence for your shia myth?
@علي المحمدي
Evidence?
@Mosaab twice
A mythology about 12 people supposedly chosen by Allah who have the knowledge of the unseen who are infallible who can answer our prayers and so on and so forth. In other words, a fairy tale about 12 demigods. That has nothing to do with Islam.
Ummah only united when Imam Mahdi is coming..it's the true,brother..the one of Prophet Muhammad's dua not accepted is unity of ummah..it's takdir
Shiah was politically instigated by a hypocrite Muslim Jew by the name of Abdullah Sabaa' (he was even around at the time of the prophet) causing further confusion and division amongst Muslims after the death of the prophet pbuh. Even Ali r.a. never condoned the group out of this as slanders went on to create animosity between the followers. So Shia is as you said is totally a politically driven and the simple way of Islamic belief was deviated from the original making Mutah and slanders on the sahabahs rampant; plus they even went further into altering the concept of aqidah (tawheed) and vividly idolizing Ali's lineage (which Ali r.a. himself would disagree) and changed many things in the solah, adzhan, etc. This dates back quite early in the Islam along with the false prophets. Then later around the 20th century came about Wahabi, which claimed to revive the true teaching of Islam by Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab, hence the term Wahabi. He was a true ulama but during his lifetime he never went to the point of creating another version of Islam. Islam, as with Jesus (Isa) pbuh and all other prophets before and after them are one true message that will always be infiltrated by the humans and the evils they carry into something else. That's how religions of varied form stems out from the original message and Muhammad s.a.w is not excluded, it will be attacked too from all sides, using people within itself. That's why Rasulullah reminded us to hold on to Quran and Sunnah...Anything going out of these, stay solemn and solidified. Shia labeled many of the sahabahs being traitors and kafirs that is how absurd their beliefs and there are other groups of anti-hadith sects too taken form. So, to the newly reverted, cross-check the information you get with the credible scholars, ulama of non-conflicting interest and against the Quran and the Sunnah. Wa'allahu alam..... Allah says in the end times there will be 70++ branches of "Islam" but only 1 is acceptable to Allah. We're living in the times of great deceptions. Assalamualaikum 🤝
Mashallah brother, I see you growing the beard now, Allahummaa Barik.
No brother your totally wrong only extremists regard shia as not muslims
@chadgroyper9526
Ok explain to me where exactly and if that's the case why muslims of the shia position go on Haj and Umrah and pray with others in mosques around the world?
You need to be careful calling muslims non Muslims read the hadiths!
True. I find it reprehensible that muslims can be tolerante of the Christians, Jews and agnostics but the moment they lay eyes on a Shia brother they immediately label them as kaffir.
How immature.
The more followers, the more lost they become.
The more followers, the more they are tossed around like foam on the ocean.
Those of quality are the few."
You are biased. Imam Ali (as) has more right to the Calipha than anyone else. Islam is the only religion not Sunni or Shia. But if you are gonna call Shiism a “political movement” then so is “sunnism” as you guys choose people over Imam Ali (as). They stole the lands of Fadak too. Who does Umar think he is to not allow the Prophet to write something? Who?
You guys have it all wrong. Sunnism is not Islam. The real Sunnah is to Follow the Ahlulbayt
Haha. Tell me how many Christians or Atheist convert to Shiism? ;) It's impossible.
@@jantheslovakmuslim you can find them yourself. You don’t have to become Shia the only religion is Islam. My teachings are from the Quran, Prophet and his Family. Not Kuffar who became Muslim. Bounce
@@jantheslovakmuslim ...bro so you choose which sect is correct based on how many people convert? hahahahaha, u sound so dumb.
When 90% of muslims are sunni then obviously there will be more sunni scholars available to help people convert than shia scholars, you dont even need a brain cell to figure this out 🙄. Just cause you are more in numbers doesnt mean that you are correct. there are more christians than muslims and we dont believe that they are correct.
There is 0 correlation between the amount of people who convert to a religion and how "right" it is.
I hope that god guides you cause you seem to think that the numbers is all the evidence you need. You admitted that you havent and wont read any shia primary sources. May allah guide you
“The Sunni Islam is Islam” is very immature statement to make. Sunni Islam wasn’t in form in the start. It is a political ideology same as Shia. The Hadiths are a later back projection of this ideology. The sahaba weren’t as black and white as they are portrayed out to be in Sunni literature. Your exposure to criticism of Hadith will lead you to free thought and true Islam. Please don’t follow the political ideologies. The sahabas according to ibn taymiyah used to to curse Ali. Ali and muawaiya fought in the battle of siffin and muawiyah made it compulsory to curse Ali. Abdullah the brother of Urwah was crucified but abdullah went with the ummayads to support them. Muawiyahs son yazid murdered the grandson of prophet. This is the landscape from where the Sunni and Shia Hadiths took origin from. There is soo much material on criticism of Hadith transmission in Sunni Islam via ICM method which shows the weakness of the isnads.
Side note: I am not Shia just showing the side of events Sunnis usually don’t talk about.
nice attempt but you failed.
"Sunni Islam wasn’t in form in the start." - Sunnism means to follow the Qur'an the way the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa salaam understood it and to follow his guidance. If that wasn't Islam from the start, then Islam didn't even exist according to you.
"The sahaba weren’t as black and white as they are portrayed out to be in Sunni literature. " - You clearly haven't read much literature of Islam to think that the sahaba are portrayed to be black and white, nobody, no trusted scholar in the history of Islam claimed that the sahaba were "black and white", in other words, infallible, they had mistakes, they had conflicts, but we are still to respect them and not mention their conflicts and mistakes because it's not necessary.
"Your exposure to criticism of Hadith will lead you to free thought and true Islam" - you mean 21st century low effort polemics against hadith which will just lead you to the kuffri ideology of hadith rejection known as "Quranism"? No thanks.
"The sahabas according to ibn taymiyah used to to curse Ali" - Earlier you claimed "Sunni literature" portrays sahaba to be black and white, now you're claiming a popular Sunni authority said the sahaba weren't black and white.
"muawiyah made it compulsory to curse Ali" - not true.
"Muawiyahs son yazid murdered the grandson of prophet." - Yazid was not a companion and there are conflicts of narrations whether was directly responsible for killing him or not.
"Side note: I am not Shia just showing the side of events Sunnis usually don’t talk about." - You may not be Sunni or Shia, you just seem to be a heretic who gets his religion from orientalist sources, that much is very obvious. You're nitpicking events and misinterpreting what Sunnis believe in and what they say.
@@aq4356 this comment proves my point. Read your reply once again and see the brainwashing. Wilfully ignoring the history of your idols won’t change anything. Ibn hanbal used to put fingers in his ears when crimes of sahaba were mentioned so maybe this is in your way of doing things.
@@hln6821 cope and seethe
@@aq4356 typical Sunni reply. May God guide you to his true path one day. Ameen.
Allah teala called us as muslims in holy Quran
No sunni can judge Shia nor can Shia judge Sunni
Holy Quran teaches us to hear both sides before judge just like the case of prophet Dawud as and 99 sheeps
Allah teala chooses whom He teala wils, and others have no right to choose
There is agreement from both Sunni and Shia about the case of Imam Mahdi
So neither Sunni nor Shia did chooses him
Prophet Muhammad saaws predicted imam Mahdi
Prophet Muhammad saaws talk is inspired by Allah teala
Allah teala says, they do not know Him by truth as He truly is
Glory be to Allah nothing resembles Him
If you take prophet muhammad (s.a.w) as a master or leader ,you will also take imam ali(a.s) as a master or leader too...if you take prophet muhammad (pbuh) as a friend then you can take imam ali a.s as a friend .......Man kunto maula" means 'Whoever accepts me as master' or 'whoever I am master to' and the full statement "Man kunto maula, fa Ali-un Maula" denotes 'Whoever accepts me as master, Ali is his master too'. ....here prophet muhammad (pbuh) in ghadeer ghum he was leader of all muslim community and all caliphs so if you take prophet muhammad (pbuh) as a master you should also take imam ali (a.s) as a leader of caliphs
All the companions of the prophet were the best people... that's the difference between Sunnis and Shiites
Sunnies should read there own hadith before bashing shias the truth stand on its own
We do
@@jantheslovakmuslim all of them
@@jantheslovakmuslim clearly you dont 🙄
I bet you get some scholar to analyse everything for you and have them pass on their biases and opinions to you. Don't even claim that you have read all sunni sources, cause MANY are in arabic and have not yet been translated to english, unless you can actually speak and understand arabic fluently and at a SCHOLAR level to be able to interpret what is meant which I highly doubt.
you have a brain so use it
@@jantheslovakmuslimPfft! No you don't, do you know how many volumes the book of Bukhari has? Or Muslim? Or Al-Asqalani? Bro, casting sich judgements is wrong.
Humble yourself and be a student of knowledge, not an agent of takfeer.